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[00:04:03] <Trengo> hai
[00:04:23] <kempo> i have postfix running with dovecot on my server. i want to send an email from a client on my pc via smtp. it reports me that the relay access was denied. i want to allow myself to send emails with a client with dynamic ip but only after authentication. how is that done?
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[00:04:38] <rob0> !relay_denied
[00:04:39] <knoba> rob0: "relay_denied" : \"554 5.7.1 <RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN>: Relay access denied; from=<SENDER_ADDRESS> to=<RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN> proto=ESMTP helo=<HELO>\": This typically means that CLIENT_IP is not in mynetworks (and did not AUTH), and that RCPT_DOMAIN was not recognized as one of this Postfix's domains (not listed in mydestination, relay_domains or virtual_*_domains).
[00:04:43] <rob0> !sasl
[00:04:44] <knoba> rob0: "sasl" : SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.
[00:05:26] <ramy> My busy mail server is filling its memory very quickly with smtpd processes. I upgraded to postfix-2.6 with epoll support, thinking that epoll will allow a single smtpd process to serve all connected clients, but I still see postfix forking an smtpd process for each client !! Is that normal with epoll ?
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[00:35:09] <kempo> ok got it now with my relay access. now when i write an email with squirrelmail (webmail), i want to use one of my domains after @ not my server name
[00:35:16] <kempo> how do i use that?
[00:37:05] <vice-versa> !myorigin
[00:37:06] <knoba> vice-versa: "myorigin" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The default domain name that locally-posted mail appears to come from, and that locally posted mail is delivered to. The default $myhostname, which is fine for small sites. If you run a domain with multiple machines, you should (1) change this to $mydomain and (2) set up a domain-wide alias database that aliases each user to user at that dot users.mailhost.
[00:38:12] <rob0> squirrelmail is a MUA. Generally you would configure a sender address in the MUA.
[00:38:27] <kempo> MUA?
[00:38:30] <kempo> whats that?
[00:38:33] <rob0> !mua
[00:38:34] <knoba> rob0: "mua" : short for Mail User Agent and means the same as email client program . By the way: Postfix is not an MUA but an MTA (mail transfer agent). An example is mutt or Thunderbird
[00:38:48] <kempo> nice
[00:38:59] <kempo> !sex_with_computer
[00:38:59] <knoba> kempo: Error: "sex_with_computer" is not a valid command.
[00:39:05] <kempo> ^^
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[00:41:59] <kempo> kewl, only changed the hostname in /etc/mailname, and it works very fine
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[00:49:23] <Phil4> hi all. I've just setup postfix to use pam's mysql support via saslauthd. When I have a username e.g. 'phil' in the DB, I can auth to postfix fine however when I have a username of the full e-mail e.g. 'phil at test dot com' the logs seem to take the 'user' as phil and the 'realm' as test.com so it only actually queries the DB for phil
[00:49:27] <Phil4> does anyone know a way around this?
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[01:02:35] <kempo> gn8
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[01:59:47] <cheetahw26> i just setup postfix/dovecot and can received emails using ssl... but when sending i get the Server Error: 250, Error Number: 0x800CCC7D
[02:00:08] <cheetahw26> meaning that ssl is not supported
[02:00:23] <cheetahw26> how can i configure postfix to be able to send using ssl too ?
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[02:28:10] <vice-versa> cheetahw26: that looks suspiciously like an informative ms mua generated error message
[02:28:35] <cheetahw26> correct :)
[02:28:57] <cheetahw26> hmm.. but it appears that i cant send encrypted... i must have missed a step somewhere
[02:30:21] <vice-versa> if you telnet to the server in question and ehlo yourhostname does it announce STARTTLS as one of it's supported options?
[02:30:29] <cheetahw26> no..
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[02:31:12] <scort> anyone know about spamassassin config?
[02:31:14] <vice-versa> no tls support then
[02:31:18] <vice-versa> !tls_readme
[02:31:20] <knoba> vice-versa: "tls_readme" : http://www.postfix.org/TLS_README.html : Transport Layer Security (TLS/SSL) features in Postfix
[02:31:23] <cheetahw26> just read it...
[02:31:40] <cheetahw26> smtpd_use_tls = yes... wasnt there...
[02:32:01] <vice-versa> that will do it ;)
[02:32:14] <scort> i've been following http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/mail-filtering.html to get spam and av filtering working, i got the clamav part working, but it doesn't look like the spam filter is working
[02:32:15] <cheetahw26> still not sending.. now i have a diff error..
[02:32:47] <vice-versa> great, it gets better
[02:33:33] <cheetahw26> no server certs available...
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[02:34:21] <vice-versa> I think you need to read the tls readme again
[02:34:34] <cheetahw26> yeah.. rereading now :)
[02:35:00] <scort> i can send and recieve mail
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[02:38:34] <scort> it might be working
[02:38:43] <scort> can someone forward me a spam email? :P
[02:38:52] <vice-versa> O.o
[02:40:04] <vice-versa> !gtube
[02:40:05] <knoba> vice-versa: "gtube" : Generic Test for Unsolicited Bulk Email - an eicar.com like spam signature that always should trigger spam filters. See http://spamassassin.apache.org/gtube/
[02:40:32] <scort> ahh
[02:40:38] <scort> oh o i broke something
[02:40:49] <vice-versa> either that or post your email address here and wait a half hour ;)
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[02:46:20] <scort> amavis[25011]: (25011-01) Blocked INFECTED (Eicar-Test-Signature), LOCAL [127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1] <scott@**> -> <scott@s**>, quarantine: 6/virus-6TvP8bC7c6oY, Message-ID: <1220316328.32484.48.camel@phenom>, mail_id: 6TvP8bC7c6oY, Hits: -, size: 1119, 363 ms
[02:46:23] <scort> sweet
[02:46:39] <scort> i think it worked
[02:46:45] <scort> well wait that's for antivirus
[02:46:51] <scort> im looking for more spam
[02:48:37] <scort> amavis[25010]: (25010-02) Blocked SPAM, LOCAL [127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1] <scott@s***> -> <scott@sc***>, quarantine: r/spam-rtcqU9pCSHBA.gz, Message-ID: <1220316469.32484.52.camel@phenom>, mail_id: rtcqU9pCSHBA, Hits: 998.922, size: 1127, 2088 ms
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[02:52:34] <scort> postfix/qmgr[27664]: warning: connect to transport spamfilter: Connection refused
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[03:10:11] <vice-versa> scort: do you have a transport named spamfilter?
[03:12:39] <scort> not anymore, i deleted it
[03:13:21] <scort> postfix/error[29817]: 402B118AC005: to=<m@com>, relay=none, delay=1719, delays=1719/0.02/0/0.01, dsn=4.3.0, status=deferred (mail transport unavailable)
[03:13:41] <randra> how i can add quota and sasl on postfix compilation?
[03:13:43] <rob0> Well then, rather hard to connect to it, don't you think? :)
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[03:14:13] <scort> well i thought i needed it but dont
[03:14:20] <scort> i already have something do it
[03:15:28] <rob0> "man postsuper" see -r
[03:15:57] <vice-versa> if you're still seeing that in your logs it could be due to previously queued mail using that transport sitting in your deferred queue... what rob0 said
[03:16:27] <scort> i just sent an email
[03:16:28] <scort>  relay=smtp-server.satx.rr.com[75.180.132.33]:25, delay=1.3, delays=0.01/0.01/0.19/1.1, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Message received: 20080902011540.GHDL2424.cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com at phenom dot scoil.info)
[03:16:28] <scort> Sep  1 20:15:41 phenom postfix/qmgr[28403]: 2058C18AC008: removed
[03:17:37] <vice-versa> sure, the keyword in my statement being "previously"
[03:18:18] <scort> okay well see how this goes
[03:18:20] <scort> thanks
[03:19:31] * vice-versa gets the idea he had no idea what we were on about
[03:20:54] <randra> how i can add quota and sasl on postfix compilation?
[03:21:37] <vice-versa> !sasl
[03:21:38] <knoba> vice-versa: "sasl" : SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.
[03:22:32] <vice-versa> as for quota, I guess vda patch but I've no experience with it
[03:22:37] <vice-versa> !vda
[03:22:38] <knoba> vice-versa: "vda" : a patch for Postfix that adds quota functionality (see http://vda.sf.net)
[03:23:09] <randra> tks
[03:24:29] <vice-versa> guess that's either a thanks or a tls typo
[03:24:46] * vice-versa goes with thanks
[03:24:57] <vice-versa> you're welcome
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[03:36:28] <scort> yay it works vice-versa
[03:36:28] <scort> thanks
[03:36:28] <scort> now can someone try and send me a virus? :P
[03:36:59] <scort> yeah i know about the message queuing system
[03:38:34] <vice-versa> O.o
[03:38:38] <vice-versa> !eicar
[03:38:40] <knoba> vice-versa: "eicar" : a test signature that is detected by all common virus scanners. It is not a virus and thus completely harmless. Get the file from http://eicar.org
[03:39:22] <scort> yeah
[03:39:24] <scort> i did that already
[03:39:26] <scort> and it caught
[03:39:27] <scort> that
[03:39:37] <scort> that msg got deleted :)
[03:39:39] <vice-versa> please stop
[03:39:39] <vice-versa> typing like
[03:39:39] <vice-versa> that because it's
[03:39:39] <vice-versa> really really
[03:39:39] <vice-versa> fucking annoying
[03:39:49] <scort> ok
[03:39:50] <scort> fine
[03:39:57] <vice-versa> sigh
[03:44:46] <cheetahw26> ii created a cert.pem & key.pem and combined them into one file... moved them to the /etc/postfix dir... and set smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/postfix/server.pem & smtpd_tls_key_file = $smtpd_tls_cert_file...
[03:45:26] <cheetahw26> but in the logs i still get ... cannot load RSA certificate and key data.. cannot get certificate from file /etc/postifx/server.pem
[03:46:54] <cheetahw26> does the .pem have to have special permissions ?
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[04:06:04] <harlan> cheetahw26: how readable is the file?
[04:09:01] <cheetahw26> 100%
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[04:11:18] <harlan> 444 or better?
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[04:23:55] <cheetahw26> ues
[04:24:01] <cheetahw26> er... yes. even
[04:28:44] <vice-versa> cheetahw26: when you created the certs did you by any chance use a pass-phrase?
[04:31:18] <cheetahw26> yes i did...
[04:31:33] <vice-versa> that's your problem then
[04:31:38] <cheetahw26> ahh... am i supposed to leave that blank ?
[04:31:50] <cheetahw26> how can i create it without the phrase ?
[04:32:00] <vice-versa> yes, postfix can not use encrypted private keys
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[04:32:40] <vice-versa> don't provide a pass-phrase, just leave it blank and hit return
[04:34:02] <vice-versa> or you can use openssl on the exiting key to remove the encryption iirc
[04:34:31] <vice-versa> s/exiting/existing/
[04:35:04] <vice-versa> something like this....
[04:35:28] <vice-versa> cp server.key server.key.encrypted
[04:35:50] <vice-versa> openssl rsa -in server.key.encrypted -out server.key
[04:36:30] <vice-versa> then ensure the key is only readable by root
[04:37:12] <cheetahw26> done... trying now
[04:37:14] <cheetahw26> thanks
[04:38:51] <cheetahw26> still the same, but i had the key & cert in same file..
[04:38:57] <cheetahw26> let me try with separate
[04:39:34] <vice-versa> yeah I do mine separately
[04:44:29] <cheetahw26> still not working... do i have to do anything special to the cert file ?
[04:45:05] <vice-versa> no
[04:45:33] <cheetahw26> how do you generate your certs... i copied this one guide online that had me change the openssl.cnf file, but i dont remember doing that before..
[04:46:05] <vice-versa> that's just for convenience I would think
[04:46:38] <vice-versa> like setting default common name etc.
[04:47:47] <vice-versa> give us a link for this guide you used and save us 50 questions ;)
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[04:49:32] <cheetahw26> just closed it... but i reverted back to the original openssl.cnf
[04:49:58] <cheetahw26> i just ran this though; openssl req -new -newkey rsa:1024 -days 365 -nodes -x509 -keyout www.example.com.pem  -out www.example.com.pem
[04:50:06] <cheetahw26> changing the example.com ...
[04:50:22] <cheetahw26> but i only get the one file..
[04:50:52] <cheetahw26> oh wait... keyout most likely means key and out means the cert..
[04:50:57] <cheetahw26> sorry its late :)
[04:51:39] <harlan> dovecot has a certificat generation script
[04:51:59] <cheetahw26> actually i already created a cert with dovecot...
[04:52:03] <cheetahw26> can i use that one ?
[04:52:23] <cheetahw26> i think i tried originally, but i was getting same error.
[04:54:34] <harlan> I dont use .pem certs with postfix.
[04:55:25] <harlan> I just found some howtos, followed the directions, and it worked.  I put their cert generation incantation in a 1-line shell script and run it once a year to regenerate the cert.
[04:55:25] <cheetahw26> wow... i totally apologize... im always making stupid spelling mistakes..
[04:55:55] <cheetahw26> i must have been typing too fast, and put in... /etc/postifx/smtpd_cert.pem
[04:56:12] <cheetahw26> works now...
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[04:56:47] <cheetahw26> now all i have to do is master the logfiles, and i will be all set..
[04:56:54] <cheetahw26> thanks again for the help
[04:57:01] <harlan> glad it works now
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[04:57:24] <vice-versa> cheetahw26: so the decrypted key worked?
[04:57:42] <cheetahw26> yes...
[04:57:46] <vice-versa> cool
[04:57:52] <cheetahw26> i just had a spelling err in my main.cf
[04:58:05] <vice-versa> shit happens ;)
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[04:59:03] <cheetahw26> yeah... i need to write a script that reminds me to check for spelling mistakes like every hour
[04:59:18] <cheetahw26> off to bed, thanks again
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[04:59:38] <harlan> I have 2 hosts, one accepts mail for the primary domain.  A 2nd machine forwards all locally-generated email (like from root) to the 1st machine.  The 2nd machine accepts email for a different domain, using virtual hosts.
[04:59:39] <vice-versa> np, gnight
[04:59:51] <harlan> The 2nd machine uses an IP alias.
[05:00:12] <harlan> I'm running mailman and dspam on the 2nd box.
[05:01:12] <harlan> something in postfix is taking email to user at virt dot domain and sending it to the dspam process as to=<user at main dot domain>, orig_to=<user at virt dot domain> and when dspam reinjects it is done as user at main dot domain
[05:01:17] <harlan> this messes up delivery.
[05:01:44] <harlan> Is this a problem with dspam or with postfix telling dspam the wrong to= address?
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[06:10:27] <harlan> so what in postfix calls smtpd with to=... and orig_to=...?
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[06:29:27] <jeev> my postfixadmin isn't working on new domains anymore.. what could that be from ?
[06:33:52] <vice-versa> kinda vague, but I'll wager a guess you changed something
[06:34:46] <jeev> i didn't change anything.
[06:34:51] <jeev> i just upgraded too, thought maybe twas some bug
[06:35:26] <jeev> it says 'the EMAIL is not valid!'
[06:35:50] * vice-versa shrugs
[06:36:39] <jeev> hmm
[06:37:49] <jeev> mysql log shows something weird
[06:38:21] <jeev> wait hm
[06:39:20] <jeev> i mean, over here on an old domain, it goes through. but on a new domain, it just stops
[06:39:50] <jeev> hey, it worked for test.com, wtf
[06:50:51] <sysmonk> harlan: aliases
[07:07:43] <harlan> sysmonk: thanks - this will become more interesting then.  email to a mailman list comes in as list at virt dot domain which passes thru the appropriate alias stuff and should be delivered to list@localhost, but with dspam in there it gets passed in as list at main dot domain.  Ugh.
[07:08:26] <jeev> http://postfixadmin.pastebin.com/d55b434d9
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[07:23:04] <jeev> hmm
[07:23:08] <jeev> if the domain is more than 9 char, it doesn't work
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[07:55:37] <sysmonk> harlan: look at receive_override_options
[07:56:03] <harlan> will do - thanks.  This has been driving me nuts for weeks now.
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[08:05:33] <harlan> that didn't do it :( the email still gets aliased down from list at virt dot site to list, but when it gets delivered to the dspam socket it is listed as to=<list at main dot site>, so when it comes out again the system tries to deliver it to the wrong address.
[08:06:12] <sysmonk> harlan: postconf -n + master.cf && pastebin
[08:06:17] <sysmonk> oh, and logs too
[08:06:44] <harlan> before I do that should I disable dspam and make sure it works as expected?
[08:07:11] <sysmonk> um, try pastebining the current situation
[08:07:15] <sysmonk> not the working one :)
[08:07:42] <harlan> I'm not sure it works without dspam, but OK.
[08:07:48] <sysmonk> errr
[08:07:50] <sysmonk> then wait
[08:08:00] <sysmonk> although nevermind, do it
[08:08:10] <harlan> OK.  building it now.
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[08:20:19] <harlan> sysmonk: http://postfix.pastebin.com/m7e3e7937
[08:22:34] <sysmonk> that's not your full master.cf...
[08:23:00] <harlan> I removed the # lines
[08:23:04] <harlan> did I miss something?
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[08:23:32] <harlan> I didn't see an eas way to upload an entire file t pastbin, so I had to copy/paste
[08:24:05] <sysmonk> it's great to know the defaults...
[08:24:24] <harlan> OK, I'll add it.
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[08:27:09] <munichlinux> i am trying to create a group mail, if i send a mail to foo at bar dot com and foo1 at bar dot com should the foo and foo1 should i create a unix user for the mail to get delivered
[08:27:24] <harlan> sysmonk: http://postfix.pastebin.com/m2bdd31dc
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[08:28:16] <munichlinux> i have the requirement of creating a large number of users and that i web driven. i dont want to create unix is there any solution for this?
[08:28:30] <harlan> munichlinux: do you mean a mail alias, where email to the alias name goes toone or more other addresses?
[08:29:07] <munichlinux> harlan, but those user should be unix users right
[08:29:09] <sysmonk> harlan: where do you want it to be delivered?
[08:29:12] <sysmonk> to what domain?
[08:29:33] <sysmonk> i mean what alias you've got inside
[08:29:43] <sysmonk> show me the alias for test at vmg9 dot com
[08:29:47] <harlan> sysmonk, the email is sent to test at vmg9 dot com, a mailman alias.  I have the following:
[08:29:48] <f3ew> munichlinux virtual domains
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[08:29:50] <f3ew> !virtual
[08:29:51] <knoba> f3ew: "virtual" : a way to configure additional domains and user accounts (that do not need to exist in your /etc/passwd). See: http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html
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[08:30:30] <munichlinux> harlan, i know alias, all i want is even though i send mail to foo at bar dot com i should go to some x's mail box
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[08:30:42] <harlan> munichlinux: alias will do that.
[08:30:47] <harlan> sysmonk: virtual-mailman:test at vmg9 dot com              test
[08:30:59] <sysmonk> harlan: so?
[08:31:02] <harlan> and aliases:test:             "|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post test"
[08:31:26] <sysmonk> and is rveh.com a local domain or virtual domain?
[08:31:37] <harlan> rveh.com is the local (real) domain.
[08:31:44] <harlan> vmg9.com is the virtual domain
[08:32:01] <harlan> this machine will be doing email for rveh.com "soon" (but not yet)
[08:32:11] <sysmonk> harlan: is it ?
[08:32:16] <harlan> ??
[08:32:27] <sysmonk>  harlan postconf mydestination
[08:32:32] <sysmonk> does it have rveh.com in the output ?
[08:32:50] <harlan> mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, localhost
[08:33:03] <sysmonk> harlan: postconf myhostname
[08:33:09] <harlan> mydomain is internal.rveh.com and
[08:33:22] <harlan> myhostname = ischarlan.internal.rveh.com
[08:33:25] <sysmonk> so
[08:33:35] <sysmonk> local domains are ischarlan.internal.rveh.com, localhost.ischarlan.internal.rveh.com, localhost
[08:33:51] <harlan> ok
[08:34:01] <sysmonk> add rveh.com to that list
[08:34:34] <harlan> and vmg9.com is listed in vhosts.txt
[08:34:40] <sysmonk> or change myorigin to localhost
[08:34:46] <harlan> if I add rveh.com to that list I'll need to ...
[08:34:47] <harlan> hmmm
[08:34:48] <sysmonk> harlan: i don't care about vmg9.com
[08:34:53] <harlan> 'k
[08:35:03] <sysmonk> you're resending the mail to rveh.com which isn't local domain in your configuration
[08:35:27] <harlan> hmmm, ok
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[08:35:38] <sysmonk> so you 1. can add it to local domain list 2. can change myorigin to your local domain 3. change mailman so that it aliases no to 'user' but to 'user@localdomain'
[08:35:45] <sysmonk> not*
[08:36:11] <sysmonk> there are atleast 3 solutions for this problem, choose wisely :)
[08:36:31] * sysmonk morning coffee
[08:36:41] <harlan> :)
[08:36:43] <Gnuyen> how do you add it to the local domain list
[08:37:32] <f3ew> add it to mydestination
[08:38:39] <Gnuyen> I don't seem to have a mydestination
[08:39:03] <f3ew> postconf mydestination
[08:39:53] <Gnuyen> does postfix get $myhostname from the system hostname?
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[08:41:38] <f3ew> yes
[08:42:26] <Gnuyen> is there a way to test what the configuration actually parses to?
[08:43:00] <Gnuyen> postconf seems to show the variable names from the config file, i'd like the actual live values of mydestination
[08:43:02] <Gnuyen> thanks so much guys
[08:43:05] <Gnuyen> you're awesome
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[08:43:15] <munichlinux> harlan, anything at bar dot com should go to foo at bar dot com how to get his
[08:43:17] <munichlinux> this
[08:43:45] <sysmonk> !catchall
[08:43:46] <knoba> sysmonk: "catchall" : Sending all emails for non-existing users in domain to a special account. See man 5 virtual for the @domain syntax, which applies in virtual_*_maps and relay_recipient_maps. For local(8) delivery, unset local_recipient_maps and see luser_relay. WARNING: catchalls are rarely a good idea. Spammers will abuse them.
[08:43:47] <f3ew> !catchall
[08:43:48] <knoba> f3ew: "catchall" : Sending all emails for non-existing users in domain to a special account. See man 5 virtual for the @domain syntax, which applies in virtual_*_maps and relay_recipient_maps. For local(8) delivery, unset local_recipient_maps and see luser_relay. WARNING: catchalls are rarely a good idea. Spammers will abuse them.
[08:43:49] <f3ew> heh
[08:43:53] <sysmonk> f3ew: i was first :)
[08:45:34] <Gnuyen> can i just type mydomain thedomain.com in main.cf
[08:45:38] <harlan> sysmonk: that seems to have done the trick - thanks *very* much.
[08:45:51] <f3ew> mydomain = example.com
[08:46:07] <sysmonk> harlan: 99.99$
[08:46:28] <harlan> wanna take it in trade for NTP help?
[08:47:10] <sysmonk> harlan: sure, i wouldn't mind if you'd send me a gps device for stratum 1... ;)
[08:47:42] <harlan> If you'll run it for the pool send me an email and I'll see what I can do.
[08:48:06] * Motoko-chan wants a GPS for NTP
[08:48:12] <sysmonk> Motoko-chan: me too :)
[08:48:18] <Motoko-chan> I don't think management would let us put it on the building though.
[08:48:25] <harlan> The garmin 18LVC is pretty inexpensive...
[08:48:28] <sysmonk> harlan: we're runing a few local ntpds, no problems with that
[08:48:34] <Motoko-chan> I use to manage a Stratum 1 server for a college though.
[08:48:35] <sysmonk> except that it's stratum 6 or something :P
[08:48:43] <Motoko-chan> Used a Trimble Palasade unit.
[08:49:39] <harlan> where abouts are you sysmonk (if you don't mind my asking)
[08:49:47] <sysmonk> lithuania
[08:49:56] <harlan> neat
[08:50:03] <sysmonk> what's neat about that? :P
[08:50:06] * harlan knows no restaurants in that area
[08:50:16] <sysmonk> you know lithuania at all ? :)
[08:50:25] <harlan> I've never been and I think there might be some pretty countryside there.
[08:50:32] <sysmonk> yeah
[08:50:40] <sysmonk> i was in the forest this weekend
[08:50:47] <sysmonk> have some picks of countryside
[08:50:54] <sysmonk> but the quality sucks
[08:51:33] <harlan> if you have any online I'd like to see them.
[08:52:05] <sysmonk> link pm'ed
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[08:56:17] <Gnuyen> ok I'm incredibly confused, I created an account and mail to account at mail dot example.com works but account at example dot com gets Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual alias table (state 14).
[08:56:37] <Gnuyen> I change mydestination to example.com, mail.example.com
[08:57:07] <Gnuyen> then i get 553 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.5.3 - chkuser) (state 14).
[08:57:29] <sysmonk> that one is a qmail error
[08:57:30] <sysmonk> nto postfix
[08:59:28] <Gnuyen> which one?
[08:59:30] <Gnuyen> i'm running postfix
[09:00:03] <sysmonk> but the error isn't postfix's
[09:00:03] <sysmonk> it's qmail
[09:01:11] <Gnuyen> both errors?
[09:01:27] <f3ew> the first is Postfix
[09:02:55] <Gnuyen> so is that because when i changed the mydestination
[09:02:59] <Gnuyen> it forwarded it or something?
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[09:08:27] <scort> hi is there an email tester
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[09:34:20] <scort> bots?
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[09:55:06] <dzosh> hello there.. i just got a bit problem. im using vacation.pl  script for vacation stuff with postfix+assassin.. now, im thinking, how to make vacation.pl to ignore spam mails? every 'spam' mail catched by  assasin is moved to Junk folder - but vacation.pl replies to it.... any ideas how to solve it, to not reply to mails coming to Junk folder ?
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[10:40:50] <the_5th_wheel> Hi. Ive inherited some form of a postfix cluster, whith no documentation. Now i need to add an extra server to the cluster, But i cant find any documentation about it. Can anyone point me towards a howto or something for postfix clusters so i can figure the system out? It seems to run on an ldap backend
[10:43:46] <f3ew> the_5th_wheel, additional MX records?
[10:44:01] <f3ew> shared storage?
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[10:45:20] <the_5th_wheel> Ok, this seems to be a system where any mail server can receive mail, and then it automatically forwards it to the correct internal server. The MX records for the domains dont need to point to the internal server.
[10:47:32] <the_5th_wheel> Storage is all seperate
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[10:49:28] <f3ew> so you need to just replicate the config files, and add a new MX record
[10:49:31] <f3ew> good design
[10:49:58] <f3ew> (This is pretty much a standard scalable mail system design
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[10:59:34] <the_5th_wheel> Ok, Thats good to know...
[10:59:41] <the_5th_wheel> Ok, I will try that and see what happens
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[11:33:45] <Gnuyen> will newaliases also update virtual_alias_maps?
[11:34:23] <f3ew> no
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[11:35:05] <Gnuyen> k thx
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[11:43:20] <stegbth> hello everybody
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[11:45:33] <stegbth> i have here a heavy backscatter spam problem
[11:46:25] <stegbth> several of our email-adresses are used as spam-sender adress. (it is not one of our user's and it is not going over our server)
[11:48:30] <stegbth> but the MAILER-DAEMON mail's come back (user unknown, bad receipient a.s.o). so i REJECT in the meantime MAILER-DAEMON@ and postmaster@ with check_sender_access in smtpd_receipient_restriction AND smtpd_sender_restriction. but this night we got again 5000 backscatter mail's
[11:48:33] <stegbth> any ideas?
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[12:03:49] <olinux> I cant figure out, Sep  1 20:01:37 mail postfix/smtpd[6725]: fatal: no SASL authentication mechanisms
[12:03:54] <olinux> more details, http://pastebin.com/d59df6a34
[12:04:08] <olinux> trying auth thru dovecot
[12:04:31] <olinux> following http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-etch/
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[12:20:49] <k1ng> hi
[12:22:07] <k1ng> i got one question: http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-etch/#id28 here, the auth helo example.com dont show the 250-* and so i cant auth plan ******
[12:22:20] <k1ng> i can login , but this is crypting the password, or?
[12:28:38] <olinux> k1 you are telnet to port 25?
[12:32:24] <olinux> k1ng,
[12:32:44] <k1ng> yes
[12:33:08] <k1ng> telnet localhost smtp
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[12:33:24] <k1ng> it works
[12:33:33] <k1ng> but if i try: helo example.com
[12:33:47] <k1ng> this 250* rows dont appear
[12:34:10] <k1ng> helo xxx
[12:34:10] <k1ng> 250 xxxx
[12:34:13] <k1ng> this appear
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[12:39:35] <k1ng> hmm now: 538 5.7.0 Encryption required for requested authentication mechanism
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[12:48:44] <olinux> k1ng,  i think i just solved my problem, http://pastebin.com/d59df6a34
[12:48:50] <olinux> maybe similar to yours
[12:49:33] <k1ng> hmm no
[12:49:39] <k1ng> i dont have any errors in the conf
[12:49:54] <olinux> i created symbolic link, ln -s /var/run/dovecot/auth-client /var/spool/postfix/private/auth
[12:49:55] <olinux> centos
[12:50:01] <k1ng> debian >
[12:50:18] <k1ng> do you know, how can i check if my postfix is a open relay
[12:51:01] <sysmonk> !relaytest
[12:51:02] <knoba> sysmonk: "relaytest" : a public service to test if your mail server is an open relay. Just run "telnet relay-test.mail-abuse.org" or visit http://www.abuse.net/relay.html
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[12:55:31] <k1ng> thanks
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[13:08:19] <loompek> mornig... smee again
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[13:09:17] <loompek> one little ol question
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[13:09:44] <loompek> an issue regarding address rewriting....
[13:10:12] <loompek> from: <a at localhost dot localdomain> to: <b at remote dot domain>
[13:10:23] <loompek> i'd need to mask the sender's domain
[13:10:30] <loompek> from: <a at mydomain dot com> to: <b at remote dot domain>
[13:10:54] <loompek> i've edited the /etc/postfix/generic and run postmap
[13:11:18] <loompek> a line looks like this
[13:11:30] <loompek> @localhost.localdomain @mydomain.com
[13:11:49] <loompek> and i've also got a line in /etc/postfix/transport
[13:12:08] <loompek> remote.domain smtp:1.2.3.4
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[14:08:15] <TuxCrafter> hello everybody i got a nice spamfilter running on smtp      inet ... smtpd, but it is also filtering outgoing messages
[14:08:54] <TuxCrafter> how can configure postfix to only use the filter on incomming messages
[14:09:17] <TuxCrafter> any help is really appreciated
[14:09:35] <sysmonk> postfix doesn't have 'incoming' messages
[14:09:40] <sysmonk> all messages are incoming
[14:09:49] <sysmonk> all of them come through the same smtpd process
[14:10:06] <sysmonk> you can turn on smtpd on other port (i.e. submission) and tell it not to scan the mail
[14:10:16] <sysmonk> that's what submission is after all
[14:10:23] <sysmonk> is for*
[14:11:45] <TuxCrafter> mail coming from mynetworks should not be filtered, is that a better description
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[14:13:37] <sysmonk> TuxCrafter: you can then use a map with FILTER to the specified content filter after 'permit_mynetworks'
[14:15:19] <TuxCrafter> sysmonk: any hints how i can do that ? http://pastebin.ca/1191443
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[14:16:06] <sysmonk> ouch ;)
[14:16:15] <sysmonk> 'nice' filter
[14:16:30] <sysmonk> TuxCrafter: anyway, that output doesn't have postconf -n, which is teh stuff here
[14:16:48] <sysmonk> just create a file with /./ FILTER filter:dummy in it
[14:17:28] <sysmonk> and add a check_client_access regexp:/path/to/file after permit_mynetworks ( can be before 'reject' )
[14:17:32] <TuxCrafter> sysmonk: http://pastebin.ca/1191447
[14:17:43] <TuxCrafter> with the postconf -n
[14:18:04] <sysmonk> TuxCrafter: create the file i just told you
[14:18:38] <sysmonk> i.e. echo '/./ FILTER filter:dummy' > /etc/postfix/filter_regexp
[14:19:10] <sysmonk> and add a check_client_access regexp:/etc/postfix/filter_regexp before 'permit' in smtpd_recipient_restrictions
[14:19:41] <sysmonk> oh, and disable content_filter in master.cf in the smtpd
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[14:24:26] <TuxCrafter> sysmonk: http://pastebin.ca/1191456
[14:24:29] <TuxCrafter> the result
[14:24:37] <TuxCrafter> going to do a test right now
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[14:26:17] * TuxCrafter fuck i changed it on the wrong server
[14:26:32] * TuxCrafter haha
[14:30:54] <sysmonk> :)))
[14:32:06] <TuxCrafter> sysmonk:  Client host triggers FILTER filter:dummy; ..
[14:32:12] <TuxCrafter> seems to be working very nice
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[14:32:29] <sysmonk> on the correct server? :P
[14:34:11] <TuxCrafter> yes on the correct server :-p
[14:34:23] <TuxCrafter> got to fix a few more issues
[14:34:26] <TuxCrafter> with tls
[14:34:59] <TuxCrafter> 192.168.1.240 should be matched by mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8, 192.168.1.0/24 correct
[14:36:22] <sysmonk> correct
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[14:37:54] <jelly> stupid spam filter missed a whole lot of backscatter
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[15:00:14] <randra> on compilation of postfix, how i can add sasl and mysql, on runing make makefiles
[15:00:30] <sysmonk> !sasl
[15:00:31] <knoba> sysmonk: "sasl" : SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.
[15:00:31] <sysmonk> !mysql
[15:00:33] <knoba> sysmonk: "mysql" : http://www.postfix.org/MYSQL_README.html is helpful in configuring postfix to talk to a mysql server.
[15:00:34] <sysmonk> randra: ^^
[15:00:39] <sysmonk> afair, it has all the info
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[15:02:18] <randra> !vda
[15:02:19] <knoba> randra: "vda" : a patch for Postfix that adds quota functionality (see http://vda.sf.net)
[15:02:26] <randra> !sasl
[15:02:27] <knoba> randra: "sasl" : SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.
[15:02:32] <randra> :D:D
[15:02:40] <sysmonk> just don't abuse the bot ;)
[15:02:45] <randra> sorry
[15:02:47] <xming> !randra
[15:02:48] <knoba> xming: Error: "randra" is not a valid command.
[15:03:03] <vice-versa> !submission
[15:03:04] <knoba> vice-versa: "submission" : I am knoba! Yield to my power and authority mortal
[15:03:04] <randra> i`m looking to make a good configuration
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[15:03:23] <sysmonk> !hare_krishna
[15:03:24] <sysmonk> !!!
[15:03:24] <knoba> sysmonk: "hare_krishna" : Rumor has it that Hare Krishna means hire a consultant in Hindi.
[15:03:24] <sysmonk> ;)
[15:03:26] <knoba> sysmonk: Error: "!!" is not a valid command.
[15:03:48] <randra> I never installed Postfix, I would add various functionalities
[15:04:01] <f3ew> !howto
[15:04:03] <knoba> f3ew: Error: "howto" is not a valid command.
[15:04:06] <vice-versa> !fish
[15:04:07] <knoba> vice-versa: "fish" : Give an admin a fish and you feed them for a day. Teach an admin to fish and you feed them for a life. -- All new anglers, please see the following channel factoids, !tutorial !docs !basic !standard !faq !manuals !logs !debug !smtpd!=smtp
[15:04:08] <f3ew> damn
[15:04:23] <sysmonk> f3ew: fail ;P
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[15:09:29] <skor> ahh finally a break after 5 hours of postfix + dovecot + postgres
[15:09:32] <skor> it works
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[15:13:07] <randra> nice skor =)
[15:13:44] <randra> i`m looking here to add sasl and quota on postfix makefiles but i`m complicates
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[15:25:59] <VVelox> Any suggestion on mailing list software for use with Postfix?
[15:26:56] <sysmonk> mailman?
[15:26:58] <sysmonk> !mailman
[15:26:59] <knoba> sysmonk: "mailman" : a listserv software (http://www.list.org)
[15:30:55] * cpm likes mailman
[15:31:07] <VVelox> Aye, I am aware of it. Currently looking around and comparing different ones.
[15:31:35] <sysmonk> not much available
[15:31:54] <cpm> depends on how you intend to use it.
[15:32:16] <sysmonk> yeah, spam softwares are different
[15:32:17] <sysmonk> ;P
[15:33:06] <cpm> I like mailman spam lists.
[15:33:19] <cpm> real opt-in, opt-out.
[15:34:16] <vice-versa> as opposed to fake ones?
[15:34:55] <cpm> yes, as opposed to fake ones, the ones who say you've opted-in, which is horseshit.
[15:35:39] <TuxCrafter> sysmonk: thanks for the help
[15:35:51] <sysmonk> TuxCrafter: always welcome, only 99.99$ as usual ;)
[15:36:13] <TuxCrafter> sysmonk: mail me your paypal
[15:36:16] * cpm is still waiting for the invoice
[15:36:23] <sysmonk> TuxCrafter: give me a job
[15:36:24] <sysmonk> ;)
[15:36:26] <vice-versa> thank you for shopping sysmonks
[15:36:30] <sysmonk> vice-versa: haha
[15:36:49] <TuxCrafter> sysmonk: send me your specialities
[15:36:55] <sysmonk> TuxCrafter: /topic
[15:36:55] <sysmonk> ;))
[15:37:36] <TuxCrafter> http://www.powercraft.nl/testing/pages/company-jobs.html
[15:37:41] <f3ew> sysmonk, cpm, you might want to lurk in #lopsa, btw
[15:37:44] <f3ew> also rob0
[15:37:51] <sysmonk> what's lopsa ?
[15:38:28] <f3ew> lopsa.org
[15:38:30] * vice-versa feels left out :(
[15:38:34] <sysmonk> already reading
[15:38:47] <sysmonk> vice-versa: you can join #lousa
[15:39:28] * vice-versa takes his marbles and goes home
[15:39:46] <cpm> wow, harsh!
[15:39:55] <f3ew> heh
[15:39:56] <cpm> man, you owe vice-versa an apology
[15:39:59] <sysmonk> quite a big chan
[15:40:09] <f3ew> lots of clued sysadmin types
[15:40:14] * sysmonk apologies to vice-versa
[15:40:16] <f3ew> #bofh :P
[15:40:20] * cpm thanks f3ew
[15:40:25] <f3ew> yw
[15:40:39] <sysmonk> :))
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[15:53:23] <x86> I have an account "foo" which is recieving email just fine, but I want to also make an alias "foo", that will dump mail into the existing "foo" mailbox, but also send it to another person
[15:53:38] <x86> due to the nature of my problem, a simple subscribe with IMAP is not sufficient
[15:53:58] <x86> is it possible to have an alias named the same thing as an email box, and not have a huge routing loop?
[15:55:44] <sysmonk> local(8) or virtual(8) ?
[15:56:41] <x86> local account
[15:57:05] <x86> was wanting to use /etc/aliases with a line like "foo: foo, bar"
[15:57:28] <vice-versa> tias
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[16:02:24] <sysmonk> x86: then you can use it like that
[16:03:18] <sysmonk> also you can try using recipient_bcc_maps
[16:05:13] <x86> well I'd rather put it in /etc/aliases, since it's just temporary
[16:05:22] <x86> you're saying that should be fine, eh?
[16:07:26] <sysmonk> yes
[16:09:00] <x86> cool deal, thanks so much
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[16:17:16] <cheetahw26> whats common parameters.. for creating a user that will only have a maildir mailbox ? where you don't want them to be able to login to the box itself
[16:17:40] <sysmonk> use virtual ;)
[16:18:08] <download123> hey ive got a question, how can i debug posfix (i try to login via pop3 but i get the reject -ERR Login failed. but in the logs i cant finde where the problem is)
[16:18:30] <vice-versa> !pop
[16:18:30] <knoba> vice-versa: "pop" : postfix is not an imap or pop server
[16:18:31] <sysmonk> download123: pop3 != smtp, postfix is a [e]smtp server
[16:19:03] <download123> oh okay sry so the problem is in courier
[16:19:44] <download123> am i right?
[16:19:53] <sysmonk> right
[16:20:28] <download123> is there an irc channel you can suggest about courier?
[16:20:36] <sysmonk> like... #courier ?
[16:20:42] <seekwill> sysmonk: No way!
[16:20:51] <sysmonk> no way! :)
[16:20:55] <seekwill> cheetahw26: Set the shell to /sbin/nologin?
[16:21:08] <download123> sysmonk no answers there .. :-P
[16:21:08] * seekwill uses virtual as well
[16:21:15] <seekwill> No answers here either!
[16:21:19] <sysmonk> seekwill: turn off ssh and other goodies :P
[16:21:30] <seekwill> sysmonk: Good idea. I have telnet still on
[16:22:37] <cheetahw26> thanks seek, i think that was what i was looking for... however i am interested in the virtual users... reading now
[16:22:37] <sysmonk> weee, telnet!
[16:22:57] <sysmonk> seekwill: i sometimes enable telnet when i'm afraid to break ssh
[16:23:12] <f3ew> just run ssh on a high port
[16:23:14] <sysmonk> but re-disable it after updating
[16:23:23] <xming> I use ssh with alternative config file
[16:23:39] <xming> then mess with the system  ssh
[16:23:57] * seekwill has a VPN connection to his boxes anyways
[16:24:05] <sysmonk> yup
[16:24:24] <seekwill> cheetahw26: I use virtual as well... But if it's only one user...
[16:24:49] <xming> pff all virtual here, virtual there, nothing is real these days
[16:25:04] <xming> !virtual_boobs
[16:25:06] <knoba> xming: Error: "virtual_boobs" is not a valid command.
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[16:41:38] <x86> Sep  2 09:40:55 mail lmtpunix[19932]: IOERROR: fstating sieve script /var/lib/imap/sieve/p/payroll/defaultbc: No such file or directory
[16:41:51] <x86> is this the default Blind-carbon setting file?
[16:42:17] <x86> if we were to use it
[16:42:31] <Dominian> that looks to me to be a sieve filtering issue.. not postfix
[16:42:43] <thumbs> !virtual_wills
[16:42:44] <knoba> thumbs: Error: "virtual_wills" is not a valid command.
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[17:03:54] <seekwill> Dominian: You scared him
[17:03:57] <seekwill> thumbs: :(
[17:04:06] <seekwill> I'm all real
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[17:09:39] <Dominian> heh
[17:09:53] <Dominian> seekwill: it was pretty fucking obvious what the problem was
[17:09:58] <Dominian> Why do people frekain' ignore log entries?
[17:10:36] <seekwill> :)
[17:13:37] * cpm ignores Dominian
[17:15:29] <Dominian> woot
[17:15:41] <Dominian> One less bastard to deal with today ;)
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[17:18:08] * cpm is such a bastard
[17:18:43] <iari> Hi, I'm having trouble setting my mail so I can send mail through SMTP, can anyone help me?
[17:20:02] <seekwill> No one will know if they can help if you don't state the problem...
[17:21:39] <iari> I tried installing and configuring postfix, I keep getting '553 Sorry, that domains isn't in my list of rcpthosts'
[17:22:07] <iari> I am able to send emails using /bin/mail my at address dot com
[17:24:43] <iari> but when Nagios is trying to send Emails they keep getting blocked or something
[17:25:01] <iari> /var/log/maillog is full of '553 Sorry.....'
[17:26:58] <cpm> that doesn't sound like a postfix 553.
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[17:28:58] <cpm> is the nagios server allowed to relay?
[17:29:03] <cpm> if so, how?
[17:31:22] <iari> My Nagios HD got too many errors so I tried reinstalling CactiEZ & Nagios on a new HD. I do not remember if I set nagios relay last time I configured Nagios. How do I do it ?
[17:33:30] <iari> Where can I fin a good postfix howto ?
[17:33:35] <cpm> !basic
[17:33:36] <knoba> cpm: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[17:33:41] <seekwill> !book
[17:33:41] <knoba> seekwill: Error: "book" is not a valid command.
[17:33:44] <seekwill> :(
[17:34:37] <iari> knoba, Thanks
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[17:43:11] <bdherouville> Hello ! Do you know how to make a virtual alias like catchall ? I want that *_test@mydomain is forwarded to an external address.
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[18:10:35] <jelly> Raboliot: would you be content with test+*@mydomain?
[18:10:58] <Raboliot> Yes, why not.
[18:11:02] <f3ew> !catchall
[18:11:03] <knoba> f3ew: "catchall" : Sending all emails for non-existing users in domain to a special account. See man 5 virtual for the @domain syntax, which applies in virtual_*_maps and relay_recipient_maps. For local(8) delivery, unset local_recipient_maps and see luser_relay. WARNING: catchalls are rarely a good idea. Spammers will abuse them.
[18:11:11] <f3ew> !recipient_delimiter
[18:11:11] <knoba> f3ew: "recipient_delimiter" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The separator between user names and address extensions (user+foo). See canonical(5), local(8), relocated(5) and virtual(5) for the effects this has on aliases, canonical, virtual, relocated and on .forward file lookups. Basically, the software tries user+foo and .forward+foo before trying user and .forward.
[18:12:06] <Raboliot> So, if I sent a mail to test+user1@mydomain, it will be forwarded ?
[18:12:14] <jelly> Raboliot: that recipient_delimiter thing usually works by default, so just create a virtual for test@mydomain and it'll work, right
[18:13:14] <Raboliot> So, if I sent a mail to test+user1@mydomain, it will be forwarded ?
[18:13:33] <jelly> if test@mydomain resolves to a forward, yes
[18:14:09] <Raboliot> Ok, thx, i am testing
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[18:18:30] <JP_> i folks looking for small help
[18:19:23] <googlah> I'm getting "warning: connect to transport amavis: Connection refused" in /var/log/mail.log, although I removed everything with amavis in main.cf and master.cf. where does it still relay to amavis?
[18:21:15] <JP_> maybe someone knoe solution
[18:21:58] <cpm> googlah, you probably have stuff in the queue still bound for amavis.
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[18:23:54] <googlah> cpm, was probably it. Had 9 in there, all had transport unavailable. deleted them now though. :p
[18:28:19] <cpm> cool
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[18:51:52] <munichlinux> I am using dbmail, i need to store all the mail despite the fact user is valid or not. I added always_bcc while testing when i hit the RCPT TO command dbmail rejects with message:  Temporary lookup failure
[18:51:59] <munichlinux> any idea how to test this ?
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[19:05:24] <JP_> hi folks here is my prob. ftp://media.madona.lv:21/htdocs/Postix+%28Relay%2BSpam+Filter%29.jpg
[19:05:25] <cpm> what does this have to do with postfixx?
[19:05:32] <JP_> i googled but no succes
[19:05:33] <cpm> munichlinux, ^^^
[19:05:44] <JP_> sorry wrong url
[19:06:16] <munichlinux> cpm, i am using always_bcc but still this bounces back to the sender
[19:06:39] <munichlinux> cpm, i dont want that to bounce back to the sender
[19:07:33] <JP_> http://jp.deephouse.lv/problem.jpg
[19:08:52] <cpm> JP_, Rather than asking the community to engineer your system, (a few folks will probably be willing to do so for a rational figure) why don't you explain what you have tried, and failed at?
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[19:09:52] <cpm> !catchall
[19:09:53] <knoba> cpm: "catchall" : Sending all emails for non-existing users in domain to a special account. See man 5 virtual for the @domain syntax, which applies in virtual_*_maps and relay_recipient_maps. For local(8) delivery, unset local_recipient_maps and see luser_relay. WARNING: catchalls are rarely a good idea. Spammers will abuse them.
[19:10:02] <cpm> munichlinux, ^^^^
[19:10:49] <munichlinux> ok
[19:10:54] <cpm> good luck
[19:11:07] <munichlinux> cpm, thanks
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[19:15:37] <JC> hello
[19:15:54] <JC> postgrey vs sqlgrey
[19:16:04] <JC> which do you think is best?
[19:16:26] <JC> i hear people prefer postgrey because its faster?
[19:17:53] <seekwill> I like not greylisting... :)
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[19:23:11] <JC> why
[19:23:37] <JC> its works very good
[19:24:45] <seekwill> I can't stand it. When I send an email, it needs to be there :)
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[19:25:17] <seekwill> I have great luck with RBLs and av/as scanning
[19:25:53] <seekwill> "I sent you an email..." 'oh, didn't get it...' "hmm.. I don't know why... try rebooting?"
[19:26:51] <JC> well if it works it work but if your mailserver gets flooded with spam ??? users start..."why is there so much junk in my inbox"
[19:26:52] <seekwill> I wonder what retry interval yahoo uses
[19:27:00] <JC> 5min
[19:27:31] <JC> they do a quick retry after 1min and when again after 5min
[19:27:48] <seekwill> RBLs takes care of that
[19:28:17] <JC> which list do you use btw
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[19:28:31] <JC> list(s)
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[19:29:47] <seekwill> The ones listed here: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/postfix_restrictions
[19:30:09] <JC> centos, what a great distro!!!
[19:30:43] <JC> problem with rbl is that spammers have ways to stay clear of them
[19:30:48] <JC> what then?
[19:31:06] <JC> sa with reject or pass spam
[19:31:18] <seekwill> Pass with subject modification
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[19:31:58] <JC> yes but user dont like to search for legit mail if you know what i mean
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[19:32:13] <JC> i use mailscanner aswell work nicely
[19:32:32] <seekwill> There are some false positives and negatives, but very rarely. My users already check their spam box if they were expecting something but didn't receive it.
[19:32:38] <JC> i know postfix community is not a fan and prefers amavis
[19:32:41] <Dominian> JC: I've had no issues with RBLs and spammers getting by it.
[19:33:03] <Dominian> JC: I use sqlgrey
[19:33:05] <seekwill> Yeah, not sure how spammers can stay clear from an RBL..
[19:33:15] <JC> nm
[19:33:21] <Dominian> only because I do everything in sql.. and I use the sqlgrey web interface to manage some things
[19:33:36] <Dominian> although its a bit useless as the whitelist/blacklist entries don't tie into the sql db properly and it still relies on flat files to do those.
[19:33:43] * Dominian shrugs
[19:33:53] <JC> ok
[19:34:36] <Dominian> I use safe.dnsbl.sorbs.net and zen.spamhaus.org
[19:35:20] <Dominian> JC: and if you use mailscanner.. look at using mailwatch.. and make your users manage their own quaratines.
[19:35:27] <Dominian> Thta way you don't have to mess with it.
[19:35:31] <JC> i use mailwatch
[19:35:44] <JC> very nice
[19:35:54] * Dominian nods
[19:36:01] <Dominian> I use mailwatch coupled with postfixadmin to manage everything..
[19:36:02] <JC> i hear verion 2 is comming soon...
[19:36:10] <Dominian> Version 2 can suck my balls
[19:36:15] <Dominian> as it no longe ruses mysql
[19:36:16] <JC> lol
[19:36:19] <Dominian> uses pgsql
[19:36:28] <Dominian> and I'm not installing pgsql for one web app
[19:36:38] <Dominian> when everything else I use uses mysql
[19:37:11] <Dominian> plus I have customizations in mailwatch and postfixadmin that I put in place to tie them together for creating/deleting/updating users
[19:37:11] <JC> must you use virtual users with postfixadmin?>
[19:37:15] <Dominian> JC: yes
[19:37:25] <JC> mmm..
[19:37:46] <JC> do you have a nice tutorial to get virtual users
[19:37:49] <JC> ?
[19:37:57] <JC> also want to use postfixadmin
[19:37:59] <Dominian> I find virtual users a bit easier to manage.. if I need to move everything from one box to another.. I just tar it up.. move the maildir folders over.. make sure permissions are set.. move my configs.. start postfix.. done.
[19:38:01] <JC> very nice
[19:38:08] <Dominian> JC: wiki.slackadelic.com
[19:38:21] <JC> thanks will have a look
[19:38:21] <Dominian> You can try that one out.. it was writetn using slackware.. but should work for anything else as long as you have half a brain.
[19:38:45] <Dominian> because I wrotei t.. and I used it to configure an ubuntu server fo ra buddy
[19:39:28] <JC> did you write that tutorial with postfix,mailscanner,postfixadmin,sqlgrey,mailwatch??
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[19:40:00] <JC> well done
[19:40:01] <Dominian> yes
[19:40:03] <Dominian> Thanks
[19:40:09] * acidchild poops on matt
[19:40:15] <acidchild> :>
[19:40:21] <JC> used it when i setup my mailscanner
[19:40:36] <JC> the part with the release of quarantine items
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[19:40:50] <JC> where it gets quarantined again
[19:42:03] <JC> that saved my hours....
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[19:42:54] <Dominian> acidchild: damn you
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[19:43:02] <Dominian> JC: ahhh hehe
[19:43:08] <Dominian> JC: So you used that tutorial before?
[19:43:14] <JC> yes
[19:43:20] <Dominian> I have some other things I need to add to it
[19:43:25] <Dominian> Like putting SA into sql
[19:43:26] <JC> but not the virtual users part
[19:43:47] <Dominian> and a bit more explanation of how to do some Scanning for particular domains.. orn ot scanning.. or what not
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[19:45:14] <acidchild> Dominian: :P
[19:45:18] <acidchild> i'm everwhere mofo!
[19:45:20] <acidchild> EVERYWHERE
[19:46:09] <JC> must i use sql with virtual users?
[19:46:28] <JC> not an sql expert
[19:46:29] <Dominian> heh
[19:46:42] <Dominian> JC: well, no, but doing it with flat files is a pain
[19:46:49] <Dominian> which is why I opted for mysql
[19:47:07] <JC> ok
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[19:47:38] <JC> is mail then stored in sql ?
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[19:48:07] <JC> if, then thats make backup a breeze
[19:48:24] <e_> for that you would need sthg like dbmail
[19:48:40] <e_> and i don't see why backup of maildirs or mh shouldnt be a breeze
[19:49:29] <Dominian> JC: Trust me, you put users in MySQL you learn mysql
[19:49:34] <Dominian> JC: negative
[19:49:51] <Dominian> JC: Just the information itself is stored in mysql.. like.. the path to the users mailbox.. their email address, etc etc.
[19:49:57] <JC> ok
[19:50:02] <Dominian> like on my box..
[19:50:07] <Dominian> the path is: /var/spool/mail/virtual
[19:50:13] <JC> must management is easy using postfixadmin
[19:50:14] <Dominian> and that's where all the email goes for each user into their own mailboxes
[19:50:22] <Dominian> oh eys
[19:50:27] <Dominian> especially with the new version
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[19:51:02] <JC> yeah i had it install but i didnt have virtual user configed to use it
[19:51:39] <JC> i think i will look at your tutorial again...
[19:51:42] <Dominian> ok
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[19:52:13] <JC> how is mailscanner working for you
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[19:52:44] <Dominian> Works fine fo rme.
[19:52:50] <Dominian> Going to upgrade to the latest stable here later
[19:52:56] <JC> oh this is not the place to ask this but maybe you can help
[19:52:59] <Dominian> and test clamav hehe
[19:53:01] <JC> mailwatch
[19:53:08] <JC> i have a problem
[19:53:15] <Dominian> JC: join #mailscanner
[19:53:17] <acidchild> me too :(
[19:53:19] <Dominian> so we can keep that stuff out of postfix
[19:53:29] <Dominian> and not bug these guys with that...
[19:53:29] <JC> sorry
[19:53:32] <Dominian> no worries man
[19:53:34] <Dominian> Just a suggestion :)
[19:53:43] <JC> ;)
[19:53:56] <Dominian> acidchild: same to you chief :P
[19:54:53] <acidchild> i don't have a problem.
[19:55:00] <acidchild> just that my hair falls out when i cry
[19:55:02] <Dominian> 13:53 < acidchild> me too :(
[19:55:07] <Dominian> er.. haha
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[20:41:57] <uid00> ello and good evening ##postfix
[20:42:02] <uid00> or good morning
[20:42:09] <uid00> so have an interesting problem
[20:42:22] <uid00> i have conf'd an old system to point to new domain
[20:42:29] <uid00> i've made the appropriate changes in main.cf
[20:42:43] <uid00> other than this, there were no other changes to the system
[20:43:02] <uid00> and yet, when i email the system, no errors manifest (bounces/relay errors)
[20:43:11] <uid00> no email makes it to server or inbox.
[20:43:27] <uid00> in checking from another, new mailserver that is send, i see from the logs that the message is 'delivered'
[20:43:35] <uid00> and in looking at mailq on the recipient machine, nothing
[20:43:48] <uid00> not even a relay error :)
[20:43:53] <pickcoder> is the MX correct?
[20:44:02] <uid00> yes, very much
[20:45:01] <pickcoder> well if postfix received mail then it would show in the logs
[20:45:40] <pickcoder> what is the domain
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[20:53:18] <cheetahw26> when i add or change things in /etc/postfix/virtual ... do i have to update the db ... if so, how ?
[20:53:29] <lunaphyte_> !postmap
[20:53:30] <knoba> lunaphyte_: "postmap" : a command to 'compile' text files to hash databases. Example: a file transport will be converted to transport.db by running 'postmap transport'. Your main.cf will contain something like transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/transport (without the '.db')
[20:54:32] <cheetahw26> are there any other ways... i seem to have created the virtual.db before, without running postmap..
[20:54:37] <cheetahw26> just curious
[20:54:47] <pickcoder> that's a neat trick
[20:55:18] <pickcoder> there's numerous ways to create a file, but it probably won't work with postfix as a hash
[20:55:20] <lunaphyte_> well, since postmap essentially just uses bdb libs, there are plenty of other ways, in theory.
[20:55:26] <cheetahw26> at least i think i did... virtual.db is there... and i did a history | grep postmap with no return
[20:55:45] <lunaphyte_> how did you install postfix?
[20:55:52] <cheetahw26> from source..
[20:56:54] <lunaphyte_> well, either way, anything that might have occurred as part of an install script was simply calling postmap.
[20:57:25] <cheetahw26> cool... good to know - thanks
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[20:58:03] <uid00> hmm
[21:01:39] <uid00> nothing in logs
[21:01:42] <uid00> no error
[21:01:46] <uid00> this is just strange
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[21:02:25] <pickcoder> uid00: what is the domain
[21:02:35] <uid00> eh
[21:02:46] <lunaphyte_> then either the message is being delivered to another device, or you need to fix syslog.
[21:03:27] <uid00> i suppose you're right with the syslog thing
[21:03:33] <uid00> but i'm loggin notice and above on mail
[21:03:40] <uid00> wouldn't that show something :)
[21:03:52] <pickcoder> so submit a mail locally to root
[21:04:04] <pickcoder> if nothing shows in the logs then your logging is broken
[21:04:11] <uid00> jeebus
[21:04:57] <uid00> ok i just went to mail.*
[21:05:00] <uid00> just for a looksee
[21:07:46] <lunaphyte_> !logs
[21:07:47] <knoba> lunaphyte_: "logs" : by default, postfix logs to the mail facility of syslog. Something like grep -i `postconf -h syslog_facility` /etc/syslog.conf or grep -rl `postconf -h syslog_name` /var/log/* should tell you where logs are going.
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[21:09:49] <uid00> nothing
[21:09:57] <sandeep> !logs
[21:09:58] <uid00> says mail is delivering but i am just not seeing it in any box
[21:09:58] <knoba> sandeep: "logs" : by default, postfix logs to the mail facility of syslog. Something like grep -i `postconf -h syslog_facility` /etc/syslog.conf or grep -rl `postconf -h syslog_name` /var/log/* should tell you where logs are going.
[21:10:16] <pickcoder> uid00: you're 100% positive that your MX changes propegated?
[21:10:20] <uid00> oh i see the logs, no worries
[21:10:25] <uid00> i didn't change the mx at all
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[21:10:33] <uid00> i made no changes to zone on that
[21:10:34] <pickcoder> you changed the domain
[21:10:34] <uid00> just ns
[21:10:37] <uid00> and that sunday night
[21:11:07] <uid00> the domain was already pointed to that IP
[21:11:14] <uid00> it was the NS that had to be changed for different reasons
[21:11:20] <uid00> regardless, that was well over 24 hours ago
[21:11:30] <uid00> and i can connect to the account log in, send messages to and from
[21:11:32] <pickcoder> that's the only thing I think of
[21:11:41] <uid00> i just don't SEE any coming in or out
[21:11:47] <uid00> nothing in mailq
[21:11:49] <uid00> nothing in box
[21:11:52] <pickcoder> thus my DNS concern
[21:11:58] <pickcoder> and local mail to roo
[21:12:01] <uid00> yeah, but wouldn't i get a bounce
[21:12:03] <pickcoder> to verify log operation
[21:12:10] <uid00> same thing, nothing
[21:12:21] <uid00> mail root -s "test"
[21:12:21] <pickcoder> your logging must be screwy
[21:12:23] <uid00> blah blah
[21:12:29] <pickcoder> or you have aliasing
[21:12:30] <uid00> it says 'delivered'
[21:12:34] <uid00> i'm assuming that :)
[21:12:37] <uid00> i'll look over aliasing
[21:12:40] <pickcoder> so it DID log something
[21:12:48] <uid00> yeah, sorry for confusion
[21:12:57] <pickcoder> that just confirms that it's probably MX related
[21:12:58] <uid00> i was saying that despite that, i still see no message(s)
[21:13:34] <pickcoder> otherwise postfix would be bouncing or accepting mail from outside
[21:13:43] <uid00> *sigh*
[21:13:48] <pickcoder> or a routing problem?
[21:13:53] <uid00> i dunno
[21:14:13] <uid00> i mean, srsly, why would they say 'delivered' and not be *there*
[21:14:15] <pickcoder> if you'd post the domain here people can verify DNS and telnet to the server to see if they can send mail
[21:14:25] <uid00> sure mail.one-planet.us
[21:14:28] <lunaphyte_> why not just us tell the stupid domain?
[21:14:30] <uid00> thank god that's not prod :)
[21:14:30] <lunaphyte_> ha
[21:14:42] <uid00> there ya go
[21:15:00] <pickcoder> no answer
[21:15:11] <lunaphyte_> so you are sending mail to someuser at mail dot one-planet.us, or someuser at one-planet dot us ?
[21:15:12] <uid00> you know the only rayzun this stupid thing is still on is because i couldn't rewrite the formmailer for smtp
[21:15:14] <pickcoder> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
[21:15:14] <pickcoder> ;mail.one-planet.us.            IN      MX
[21:15:19] <uid00> w.t.f
[21:15:34] <pickcoder> one-planet.us:
[21:15:42] <pickcoder> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
[21:15:43] <pickcoder> one-planet.us.          86400   IN      MX      10 mail.one-planet.us.
[21:15:50] <lunaphyte_> my guess is he probably means one-planet.us
[21:15:53] <uid00> one-planet.us.          82378   IN      MX      10 mail.one-planet.us.
[21:15:58] <uid00> so ?
[21:16:05] <uid00> sending to one-planet.us
[21:16:09] <pickcoder> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
[21:16:10] <pickcoder> mail.one-planet.us.     86369   IN      A       69.93.9.130
[21:16:16] <uid00> yah, that's correct
[21:16:29] <pickcoder> Trying 69.39.9.130...
[21:16:29] <pickcoder> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[21:16:35] <uid00> eh?
[21:16:36] <pickcoder> there's one problem
[21:16:39] <lunaphyte_> routesuck
[21:16:41] <uid00> oh, that's disabled i think
[21:16:42] <pickcoder> oops
[21:16:45] <pickcoder> typo
[21:16:47] <pickcoder> hold on
[21:16:49] <lunaphyte_> Connected to oneplanet.one-planet.net.
[21:16:55] <pickcoder> heh
[21:16:59] <pickcoder> fat finger syndrome
[21:17:04] <uid00> same here
[21:17:17] <lunaphyte_> better than fat kid syndrome.
[21:17:28] <uid00> we can agree to disagree on that :)
[21:17:31] * uid00 is not fat
[21:18:18] <pickcoder> check your logs
[21:18:26] <lunaphyte_> to see if you're fat?
[21:18:51] <pickcoder> you should have an error in there
[21:18:59] <uid00> subject: testing
[21:19:04] <uid00> from gateway.all-spec.com
[21:19:06] <uid00> bleh
[21:19:10] <pickcoder> it works
[21:19:19] <uid00> bravo..
[21:19:23] <lunaphyte_> where are you submitting these messages form that magically disappear?
[21:19:27] <lunaphyte_> *from
[21:19:32] <uid00> anyplace
[21:19:37] <pickcoder> pastebin main.cf
[21:19:38] <lunaphyte_> pick one.
[21:19:39] <uid00> from our other domain, another email account, from cli
[21:19:42] <pickcoder> brb
[21:19:49] <uid00> eh, postconf -n u ean
[21:19:51] <uid00> mean
[21:19:52] <uid00> sure
[21:20:47] <uid00> here ya go: http://pastebin.com/d53b683b8
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[21:22:40] <Knoedel2> hi all
[21:22:47] <uid00> hello
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[21:24:51] <Knoedel2> i want to handle some domains with postfix and use mysql. my problem is currently that my server is a mail-gateway and not a mail-server. i dont have a mailadressdatabase, so i want to create user1 at domain dot com and transport it to ip:port
[21:25:00] <Knoedel2> virtual_domains are ok
[21:25:29] <lunaphyte_> !basic
[21:25:30] <knoba> lunaphyte_: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[21:25:32] <Knoedel2> but what i do with virtual_mailbox_domains
[21:25:35] <lunaphyte_> !examples
[21:25:36] <knoba> lunaphyte_: "examples" : http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html
[21:26:04] <stonith> Need some assistance please with Postfix and virtual_alias_maps using PCRE tables.  Is there a way to pass what is being matched as a variable?
[21:26:28] <lunaphyte_> to what?
[21:27:40] <Knoedel2> difference between relay and transport ?
[21:27:56] <pickcoder> uid00: no procmail recipes present?
[21:28:12] <uid00> wut
[21:28:37] <uid00> eh, just for spamfilterin'
[21:28:45] <munichlinux> what happens to the mail when the postfix is down?
[21:29:05] <pickcoder> uid00: could that be the problem?
[21:29:10] <uid00> what is?
[21:29:13] <uid00> procmail?
[21:29:23] <uid00> all i did to this system was change teh f'n hostname/DNS
[21:29:25] <uid00> that's it
[21:29:29] <munichlinux> i understand it is queue
[21:29:33] <uid00> i made the chagnges to the f'n master.cf
[21:29:35] <uid00> and then this
[21:29:46] <pickcoder> fine.. figure it out yourself
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[21:29:52] <uid00> no, not mad at ya :)
[21:29:53] <uid00> just sayin
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[21:31:09] <vice-versa> uid00: mydestination, mydomain, myhostname seem a tad confused
[21:31:13] <pulse00> hi all. anyone knows how i can set where postfix should write log messages ? i thought under ubuntu it's in /var/log/mail.log, but that file doesn't exists. and in the main.cf i couldn't find any log directives
[21:31:36] <uid00> i noticed that as well
[21:31:43] <uid00> note, i didn't config this box :)
[21:31:58] <uid00> the one i config'd, thanks to help here, works fine hehe
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[21:33:36] <pickcoder> vice-versa: mail should still be delivered
[21:33:44] <pickcoder> it's in mydestination
[21:33:51] <pickcoder> though they are wrong
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[21:34:12] <pickcoder> I can only blame procmail at this point
[21:34:20] <uid00> i see
[21:34:26] <uid00> lemme look around there
[21:34:30] <uid00> thank you all, as always :)
[21:34:34] <pulse00> hi all. anyone knows how i can set where postfix should write log messages ? i thought under ubuntu it's in /var/log/mail.log, but that file doesn't exists. and in the main.cf i couldn't find any log directives
[21:34:34] <pulse00> sorry for doublepost
[21:34:47] <Dominian> umm
[21:34:59] <Dominian> postfix utilizes the syslog factility your OS provides
[21:35:07] <Dominian> so /etc/syslog.conf is my suggestioj.
[21:35:10] <Dominian> er.. suggestion
[21:35:32] <pickcoder> bbl.. training to do
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[21:39:38] <vice-versa> !no_logs
[21:39:38] <knoba> vice-versa: "no_logs" : Nothing in your Postfix logs commonly means one of two things: either your syslogd is broken (try restarting it), or the connections are not coming to your server. Check your firewall/networking and the DNS for the domain in question.
[21:39:43] <vice-versa> !logs
[21:39:45] <knoba> vice-versa: "logs" : by default, postfix logs to the mail facility of syslog. Something like grep -i `postconf -h syslog_facility` /etc/syslog.conf or grep -rl `postconf -h syslog_name` /var/log/* should tell you where logs are going.
[21:40:29] <vice-versa> pulse00: ^^^
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[21:43:30] <sandeep> Hi all. I have installed postfix+dovecot as per the tutorial in workaround.org. If I send a mail to non-existing virtual user by using sendmail command, a new mailbox is created inside virtual mail folder. Mail gets rejected properly, if send mail through smtp. I have read in the workaround.org mailing list that username is not checked if the mail is send from localhost. Is it possible to prevent postfix from delivering mail for non-existing virtual user
[21:45:49] <pulse00> vice-versa, so if i can send/receive mails, i guess the connections are coming to the server, which means the syslogd is broken ?
[21:48:09] <vice-versa> seems so, have you tried restarting it?
[21:52:26] <pulse00> yes, but i guess there's the problem. nothing is written to the console. normally there's some message when restarting a daemon under ubuntu
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[22:13:25] <OneFix_Work> What's the simplest way of blocking users from sending emails to a list of addresses?
[22:18:09] <magyar_> hi, how can i configure postfix to use a specific IP when making a smtp connection out?
[22:19:41] <magyar_> inet_interfaces!
[22:19:48] <magyar_> !inet_interfaces
[22:19:49] <knoba> magyar_: "inet_interfaces" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The network interface addresses that this mail system receives mail on. By default, the software claims all active interfaces on the machine. The parameter also controls delivery of mail to user at [ip dot address]. If your server does not react to connection attempts on a certain interface you should check this setting.
[22:20:17] <pickcoder> magyar_: you'll need to configure an smtp transport with that setting in master.cf
[22:20:27] <pickcoder> otherwise it will only listen on that interface too
[22:20:53] <pickcoder> and thus, you'll need a transport map of some kind
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[22:21:35] <pickcoder> hrm
[22:21:37] <pickcoder> that won't work
[22:23:23] <pickcoder> that's only for socket()+listen()
[22:23:26] <lunaphyte_> !smtp_bind_address
[22:23:27] <knoba> lunaphyte_: "smtp_bind_address" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: An optional numerical network address that the SMTP client should bind to when making a connection.
[22:23:31] <lunaphyte_> and friends.
[22:23:33] <pickcoder> yeah... that's the param
[22:23:40] <pickcoder> with a custom transport setup in master.cf
[22:24:25] <stonith> pickcoder: You code in PICK? I haven't heard of that language in quite a while
[22:24:43] <pickcoder> it runs a lot of companies you probably aren't aware of
[22:24:57] <pickcoder> mostly IBM Universe or UniData now, though
[22:25:12] <stonith> pickcoder: I use to work at a company that ran it, and migrated to something called jBASE
[22:25:16] <pickcoder> ew
[22:25:20] <pickcoder> poor souls
[22:25:25] <stonith> hahah
[22:25:46] <pickcoder> jBASE has it's cult, I'll say
[22:25:59] <pickcoder> UV and UD are the two primary flavors.. but this isn't ##pick
[22:26:12] <stonith> yah i just saw your SN, gave me a grin
[22:26:19] <magyar_> lunaphyte_,  i used smtp_bind_address  but when I check the other server I still get the wrong IP
[22:26:49] * pickcoder runs TigerLogic aka Raining Data aka Pick Systems  D3 for Linux
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[22:39:49] <sysmonk> ho
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[22:40:55] <pickcoder> hum
[22:41:20] <magyar_> hi, is there a way to bind postfix to an ip address when connecting to the outside world?  I tried "smtp_bind_address" doesn't do it
[22:41:30] <sysmonk> it should
[22:41:55] <magyar_> i wish it would
[22:41:59] <sysmonk> it does.
[22:42:09] <sysmonk> except the word 'outside world'
[22:42:12] <sysmonk> it does so for all connection
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[22:42:31] <sysmonk> unless you specified an specific option for some other transport
[22:42:48] <magyar_> i have a virtual iface that I would like postfix to use when connecting to the outside world
[22:43:24] <sysmonk> magyar_: have you restarted postfix?
[22:44:17] <magyar_> yeap, many times
[22:45:15] <sysmonk> magyar_: postconf -n + master.cf + logs
[22:45:18] <pickcoder> magyar: make sure it's not listed in inet_interfaces
[22:45:27] <sysmonk> pickcoder: woot?
[22:46:30] <pickcoder> unless you plan on accepting mail on it too
[22:46:49] <sysmonk> ah :)
[22:47:19] <magyar_> pickcoder, I need to accept mail on it
[22:47:24] <pickcoder> n/m then
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[22:47:50] <magyar_> postconf shows the proper address for smtp bind
[22:47:59] <sysmonk> just pastebin it
[22:48:09] <pickcoder> magyar_: is the IP external or internal
[22:48:21] <sysmonk> magyar_: also, pastebin your ifconfig -a output
[22:48:34] <magyar_> pickcoder, external
[22:49:33] <pickcoder> looks like I get to test my yahoo transport tomorrow
[22:49:50] <sysmonk> got some spam lying around?
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[22:50:11] <pickcoder> I'll have ~40K newsletters to send out
[22:50:17] <sysmonk> ah, nice
[22:50:20] <pickcoder> maybe 5K of them will be yahoo
[22:50:24] <sysmonk> atleast your company informs you about that
[22:50:28] <sysmonk> my doesn't
[22:50:29] <pickcoder> they have to.. I send it
[22:50:31] <sysmonk> they just send them out :)
[22:50:31] <pickcoder> :)
[22:50:36] <magyar_> !lmtp_bind_address =
[22:50:37] <knoba> magyar_: Error: "lmtp_bind_address" is not a valid command.
[22:50:41] <sysmonk> our guys just send them, that's all
[22:50:56] <sysmonk> and then they're like "hey, why does mail lag so badly?!"
[22:50:59] <sysmonk> (no, not postfix problem)
[22:51:13] <seekwill> pickcoder: Only 5k are to yahoo? Who's your target?
[22:51:23] <sysmonk> seekwill: hehe
[22:51:27] <sysmonk> seekwill: must be geeks
[22:51:33] <seekwill> yeah
[22:51:48] <pickcoder> individuals, hobbyists, and companies
[22:51:49] <sysmonk> normal users don't use !yahoo
[22:52:12] <seekwill> pickcoder: ah
[22:52:14] <pickcoder> yahoo == biz.yahoo + yahoo.com + yahoo.ca + yahoo.es + yahoo.au + yahoo.uk
[22:52:39] <pickcoder> we have a surprising number of <small businesses that use biz.yahoo
[22:52:45] <pickcoder> 1-5 employees
[22:52:57] <seekwill> yeah
[22:53:08] <seekwill> pickcoder: It helps to have the user verify the email address they typed in
[22:53:27] <pickcoder> I set up a RCPT TO checker for the account entry
[22:53:34] <pickcoder> it works 50% of the time
[22:53:40] <seekwill> RCPT TO checker?
[22:53:44] <pickcoder> due to greylisting and other various crap
[22:54:03] <pickcoder> I would use verify, but it's common practice to disable it
[22:54:27] <seekwill> Err.. I mean, have them type in their email address twice
[22:54:34] <seekwill> Email, Confirm Email
[22:54:35] <pickcoder> most people are reluctant to give out their e-mail evern for order confirmations, so it'd be tough convincing them to click a link in a confirmation e-mail
[22:54:51] <pickcoder> we need more than that
[22:54:57] <pickcoder> people provide crap in the e-mail field
[22:55:10] <seekwill> Yeah
[22:55:27] <seekwill> Wow, captcha...
[22:55:42] <seekwill> Never seen that being required before
[22:55:46] <sysmonk> pickcoder: just do a if ( !(preg_match(/crap/, $email)) ....
[22:56:05] <pickcoder> sysmonk: if it was that simple
[22:56:27] <sysmonk> pickcoder: ok ok, /,/
[22:56:31] <sysmonk> er, /./
[22:56:35] * sysmonk drunk 0.5 of vodka
[22:56:52] <seekwill> Lightweight!
[22:56:57] <seekwill> How was the camping?
[22:57:00] <pickcoder> I already have it checking for @
[22:57:01] <sysmonk> nice
[22:57:03] <pickcoder> and for length
[22:57:09] <sysmonk> got some pics, but bad quality
[22:57:15] <sysmonk> pickcoder: wooooow!
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[22:57:31] <pickcoder> got one once "billgates at microsoftsucks dot com"
[22:57:33] <sysmonk> so i can have i_amsysmonk at @@@@@@domain dot com ?
[22:57:39] <pickcoder> sysmonk: nope
[22:57:42] <sysmonk> :(
[22:58:34] <pickcoder> (strangely enough.. someone sent an order out and never called to get a real address)
[22:58:38] <nux> doest postfix have anything like qmails .qmail file (i want to run maildrop on a per user basis)
[22:58:54] <pickcoder> !mailbox_command
[22:58:55] <knoba> pickcoder: "mailbox_command" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional external command that the local(8) delivery agent should use for mailbox delivery. The command is run as the recipient. Exception: command delivery for root executes with $default_user privileges.
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[22:59:06] <pickcoder> is run as the user in question
[22:59:11] <pickcoder> er recipient
[22:59:15] <sysmonk> how about .forward ?
[22:59:33] <sysmonk> ah, he wants maildrop
[22:59:33] <nux> hmm, i'll look into both of those
[22:59:35] <nux> thanks
[22:59:56] <sysmonk> nux: for using maildrop globally go with mailbox_command
[23:00:16] <sysmonk> for pipe'ing mail for different users use alias or .forward
[23:00:16] <nux> i have one virtual user/account that i want to auto move X-Spam mails to a junk folder
[23:00:21] <nux> thanks
[23:00:27] <sysmonk> nux: virtual don't use .forward
[23:00:33] <sysmonk> nux: virtual as in virtual(8)
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[23:01:37] <nux> now the alias...do you have a link or some info on how to user that to pipe to maildrop
[23:02:22] <seekwill> Anyone know C and looking for a job in Maryland?
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[23:06:16] <pickcoder> I dabble in C
[23:06:56] <seekwill> This one is for mid-level engineer
[23:07:09] <pickcoder> isn't that about the same?
[23:07:11] <pickcoder> heh
[23:07:53] <seekwill> 3 years professional C programming?
[23:08:27] <magyar_> is it possible that my version of postfix has a bug with respect to bind_smtp_address ?
[23:08:46] <pickcoder> I have about 14 years of hobbyist in C
[23:09:04] <pickcoder> pick is definately my primary language though
[23:09:16] <sysmonk> magyar_: you didn't even pastebin what i asked
[23:11:04] <seekwill> oh, I didn't know pick was a language?
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[23:13:11] <sysmonk> it's not, it's a whole nation!
[23:13:13] <pickcoder> it was an O/S+DB+query shell+BASIC-style programming language
[23:13:25] <seekwill> oh
[23:13:36] <pickcoder> now the O/S has been removed
[23:14:10] <magyar_> sysmonk, http://pastebin.ca/1191898     http://pastebin.ca/1191901    http://pastebin.ca/1191902
[23:14:23] <sysmonk> wow... you couldn't paste it to a one ?
[23:14:38] <magyar_> too big
[23:14:52] <sysmonk> oh my god.
[23:15:02] <magyar_> first is ipconfig, second postconf  third master
[23:15:03] <sysmonk> magyar_: is the second pastebin a 'postconf' or 'postconf -n' ?
[23:15:13] <magyar_> postconf
[23:15:18] <sysmonk> please, postconf -n
[23:15:25] <sysmonk> the -n is there for a purpose...
[23:16:33] <magyar_> http://pastebin.ca/1191905
[23:19:03] <pickcoder> doesn't it need to be in brackets?
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[23:19:14] <pickcoder> [x.x.x.x]
[23:19:22] <sysmonk> pickcoder: smtp_bind_address - no
[23:20:48] <sysmonk> magyar_: i'll pm you my email addie
[23:21:01] <seekwill> I think you should paste your email addy here
[23:21:56] <sysmonk> i'm a postmaster for a few hundred thousand domains, i have enough spam in my inbox anyway
[23:21:58] <sysmonk> ;)
[23:22:04] <sysmonk> don't want to see more :P
[23:24:01] <magyar_> i did
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[23:30:04] <seekwill> You get spam???
[23:30:14] <seekwill> You need better spam filters!
[23:30:42] <sysmonk> PEBKAC ftw!
[23:30:44] <sysmonk> 09-03 00:30:30 <magyar_> bahh, never mind I am an idiot
[23:30:58] <sysmonk> seekwill: nah, we don't filter sysmonk@
[23:31:06] <seekwill> oh
[23:31:06] <sysmonk> err, postmaster@ :)
[23:31:11] <seekwill> ah
[23:31:12] <sysmonk> nor abuse@
[23:31:20] <sysmonk> nor helpdesk@ :)
[23:31:26] <seekwill> They go into Junk@ anyways
[23:31:29] <seekwill> devnull@
[23:32:23] <sysmonk> sadly but no
[23:32:30] <sysmonk> they get into my inbox ( except helpdesk@ )
[23:32:42] <magyar_> thanks sysmonk
[23:33:04] <magyar_> what a day
[23:33:47] <sysmonk> oh, talking about that
[23:34:01] <sysmonk> i've always wanted to grep -Ri "thanks sysmonk" ~/.irssi/logs/FreeNode/
[23:34:17] <sysmonk> oh, and | wc -l
[23:34:35] <magyar_> you want to frash freenode? -_-
[23:34:39] <magyar_> crash
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[23:35:49] <vice-versa> so what was up with magyar_'s smtp_bind_address issue in the end?
[23:36:27] <sysmonk> vice-versa: he was testing smtp_bind_address with.... telnet
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[23:39:03] <magyar_> i tought telnet was part of postfix
[23:39:15] <magyar_> like sendmail is
[23:39:23] * magyar_ hides
[23:39:31] <sysmonk> yeah. sure.
[23:40:07] * sysmonk signs some hare_krishna songs
[23:40:54] <magyar_> thank g rob0 isnt here to see this, i would be on permanent ignore list
[23:41:20] <sysmonk> don't worry, i'll take care of that
[23:41:26] <magyar_> nice
[23:41:27] <sysmonk> *pm's rob0*
[23:41:38] <magyar_> !magyar
[23:41:39] <knoba> magyar_: Error: "magyar" is not a valid command.
[23:41:49] <magyar_> heeew
[23:42:06] <sysmonk> magyar_: you're invalid
[23:42:15] <magyar_> !telnet
[23:42:16] <knoba> magyar_: "telnet" : Have you tried to reach your mail server from outside your local network? Try telnet [server] 25 and see if you get Connected to... . See also: http://www.metaconsultancy.com/whitepapers/smtp.htm#s1
[23:42:23] <magyar_> eheheh
[23:43:02] <pickcoder> nah.. telnet is part of cups
[23:44:15] * magyar_ making a request to Wietse to include "telnet" as part of next release
[23:46:04] <magyar_> k than, am out, #postfix is the bomb!!
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[23:48:08] <sysmonk> magyar_: don't forget to pay for services
[23:50:11] * pickcoder accepts CC
[23:50:50] <sysmonk> i'll accept a job offer
[23:50:50] <sysmonk> ;P
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[23:53:38] <Knoedel2> !transport_maps
[23:53:38] <knoba> Knoedel2: "transport_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup tables with mappings from recipient address to (message delivery transport, next-hop destination). See transport(5) for details.
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[23:57:55] * seekwill does't like parsing 1.8GB maillog files :(
[23:59:25] <sysmonk> seekwill: wee
[23:59:30] <seekwill> :/
[23:59:40] <sysmonk> seekwill: i usually get to a ~1.5 gib / day
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[23:59:58] <sysmonk> but i compress the logs and store em for as much as possible
[23:59:59] <seekwill> Yeah... what a pita...





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