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[03:13:50] <ack_syn> cof
[03:13:50] <ack_syn> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hy5FdumR9k
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[04:55:09] <vindex> morning
[04:56:20] <vindex> im having trouble with username formats, i can login perfectly with the bare username but if i specify a host (ex. user at domain dot tld instead of just 'usr') it won't let me in. im using postfix with courier-imap and sasl auth
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[05:12:31] <Twstd_Foo> anyone know why "EGGS and BUTTER" are on various mail server banners?
[05:14:49] <xpoint> maybe branded sponsors ?
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[05:17:38] <Twstd_Foo> its gotta be a postfix thing.
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[05:18:09] <Twstd_Foo> example: mail22-va3.bigfish.com ESMTP Postfix EGGS and Butter
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[05:23:51] <xpoint> Twstd_Foo, yes some one change main.cf to include there favirous foods
[05:26:40] <Twstd_Foo> its on all the microsoft mail servers
[05:27:24] <Twstd_Foo> like their global rotation all have eggs and butter just curious why they made it say that lol...
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[05:37:11] <xpoint> maybe you need to change firewall ?
[05:37:42] <xpoint> or really check where the remote ip is ?
[05:38:25] <xpoint> it sound like a bad joke
[05:49:57] <Twstd_Foo> yes it does
[05:51:29] <Twstd_Foo> all bigfish and exchange hosted mail servers use that same banner.
[05:51:49] <Twstd_Foo> I've asked the frontbridge devs they haven't gotten back yet.
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[06:26:20] <hwdyki> are all restriction triggers named as *_restrictions?
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[06:30:12] <hwdyki> are all restriction triggers named as *_restrictions?
[06:37:09] <Twstd_Foo> is this the official postfix channel ?
[06:44:14] <Twstd_Foo> night all.
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[07:32:48] <Forgott3n`> Hello, it appears I cannot receive mail from the outside world (box behind router). I have set up an MX record of mail.vanonymous.org pointing to www.vanonymous.org which is an A record to my server
[07:33:05] <Forgott3n`> what ports, if any, do I need to forward to receive mail?
[07:35:33] <seekwill> 25
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[07:41:47] <rob0> 220 mail.vanonymous.org ESMTP Postfix
[07:41:53] <rob0> it's answering
[07:42:10] <rob0> but, you're not supposed to use a CNAME as MX
[07:42:33] <rob0> you should just have b0ll.dyndns.org. as MX
[07:44:45] <Forgott3n`> ok
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[08:00:01] <Forgott3n`> something is odd... I used to be able to receive mail, but it doesn't work now
[08:00:09] <Forgott3n`> I've doubled checked my ports
[08:00:12] <Forgott3n`> and I can telnet to postfix
[08:00:37] <Forgott3n`> I'm trying to send mail to forgott3n at vanonymous dot org
[08:09:31] <seekwill> Forgott3n`: grep your logs for 818C8C50BFB
[08:09:37] <seekwill> That's the email I just sent you
[08:10:59] <Forgott3n`> oh wow
[08:11:02] <Forgott3n`> all emails came in
[08:11:10] <Forgott3n`> I must've turned the port off at one point
[08:12:33] <Forgott3n`> generally speaking, if a mailserver is unable to deliver mail.. does it retry?
[08:12:39] <seekwill> Yes
[08:14:09] <Forgott3n`> well, thanks for the help!
[08:14:14] <seekwill> np
[08:15:02] <Forgott3n`> oh, another thing
[08:15:09] <Forgott3n`> my ISP blocks outgoing SMTP protocol
[08:15:16] <Forgott3n`> so I have to use their SMTP
[08:15:17] <seekwill> That's a good thing
[08:15:22] <seekwill> Who's your ISP?
[08:15:29] <Forgott3n`> Shaw High-Speed
[08:15:36] <Forgott3n`> a popular canadian isp
[08:15:56] <Forgott3n`> why is it a good thing?
[08:16:14] <seekwill> Because that helps control spam
[08:16:51] <Forgott3n`> if I wanted to use my own, though, is there a way to bypass the restriction?
[08:16:52] <seekwill> You generally don't want to host an email server on residential service
[08:16:55] <seekwill> No
[08:16:56] <Forgott3n`> ah
[08:17:16] <seekwill> For example, I block all mail coming from a residential IP
[08:17:22] <seekwill> (well, those listed in the RBL)
[08:17:28] <Forgott3n`> good to know
[08:17:42] <seekwill> However, relaying through their gateway will work
[08:18:00] <Forgott3n`> is there a de facto smtp server people like to use?
[08:18:22] <seekwill> sendmail
[08:19:24] <Forgott3n`> sorry, I mean as a relay service
[08:19:40] <Forgott3n`> right now I'm using Shaw's gateway
[08:19:52] <Forgott3n`> and if I provide my gmail credentials, I can use theirs
[08:20:02] <Forgott3n`> is there a service that people like to use?
[08:20:52] <seekwill> No
[08:21:50] <Forgott3n`> ok
[08:25:57] <rob0> !basic
[08:25:58] <knoba> rob0: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[08:26:02] <rob0> !relayhost
[08:26:03] <knoba> rob0: "relayhost" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The default host to send non-local mail to when no entry is matched in the optional transport(5) table. When no relayhost is given, mail is routed directly to the destination. If your relay host requires authentication see the !saslclient channel factoid.
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[08:27:37] <mordof> hi. got postfix on ubuntu.. can anyone help me verify that it's actually working to send an email? (just a simple command line test) i don't know what i'm doing really, and it's giving me issues
[08:28:37] <seekwill> It's helpful to have like a gmail account to test with :)
[08:28:47] <mordof> i have a gmail account
[08:29:05] <mordof> 3 actually, lol
[08:29:15] <Forgott3n`> localuser at address dot to.server
[08:29:33] <Forgott3n`> log in as that user after you've sent email and type "mail"
[08:29:41] <Forgott3n`> or tail -f /va/log/maillog
[08:29:54] <Forgott3n`> /var/log/maillog*
[08:30:06] <mordof> i need to verify that it'll send an email to my gmail account
[08:30:14] <Forgott3n`> oh
[08:30:21] <mordof> i want to use it with mail(); for php
[08:30:24] <Forgott3n`> log in as user (can be root)
[08:30:34] <rob0> what is the domain name?
[08:30:36] <Forgott3n`> and type "mail email at gmail dot com"
[08:30:56] <rob0> oh you want to SEND
[08:30:58] <Forgott3n`> finish the prompts and when complete hit Ctrl+D twice
[08:31:18] <Forgott3n`> or you can telnet into the SMTP protocol
[08:31:22] <Forgott3n`> telnet localhost 25
[08:31:38] <Forgott3n`> and do it manually
[08:32:05] <mordof> Forgott3n`: how long would it usually take to recieve the email on gmail's end
[08:32:11] <Forgott3n`> AFAIK: if the mail command works in shell, mail(); will work in PHP
[08:32:36] <Forgott3n`> well my dear chum, type "tail /var/log/maillog" and paste the contents to www.pastebin.ca
[08:32:50] <Forgott3n`> lets see what your server did to the email first
[08:33:13] <mordof> no such file or directory
[08:33:45] <Forgott3n`> locate maillog
[08:33:56] <rob0> !logs
[08:33:57] <knoba> rob0: "logs" : by default, postfix logs to the mail facility of syslog. Something like grep -i `postconf -h syslog_facility` /etc/syslog.conf or grep -rl `postconf -h syslog_name` /var/log/* should tell you where logs are going.
[08:34:09] <mordof> there isn't one ; ; lol
[08:34:21] <mordof> hmm
[08:34:27] <Forgott3n`> ty rob0
[08:35:32] <mordof> would /var/log/daemon.log be it?
[08:36:00] <Forgott3n`> try
[08:36:02] <mordof> lol.. hold on i think i need to run that with sudo
[08:36:12] <Forgott3n`> /var/log/mail.log
[08:36:17] <mordof> k
[08:36:26] <mordof> yeah that works
[08:38:11] <mordof> hope this is what you want
[08:38:12] <mordof> http://rafb.net/p/aWYSLa79.html
[08:38:48] <mordof> i kinda sent a wierd signal.. i'm using putty ssh'd into my server, lol. so it looks like i clicked on something to make it send the stuff i had selected to bash
[08:39:32] <Forgott3n`> yeah, PuTTY will paste everything on clipboard to server if you right click
[08:39:56] <rob0> Looks like you were following some HOWTO, but gave up part of the way through it.
[08:40:20] <rob0> !basic
[08:40:21] <knoba> rob0: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[08:40:23] <mordof> i got given a very bad guide that screwed up most of my system, someone in #ubuntu has been trying to help me piece it back together
[08:40:46] <rob0> I would scrap it and start over.
[08:40:49] <mordof> i can't reinstall right now... i really need to get this working asap :s
[08:40:58] <rob0> good luck with that
[08:41:28] <rob0> why can't you reinstall Postfix?
[08:41:38] <mordof> i can reinstall postfix.. just not everything else, lol
[08:42:11] <seekwill> rob0: Reinstall?
[08:42:13] <rob0> ok, I'm off to bed.
[08:43:07] <mordof> i used a package manager to install it...
[08:43:20] <mordof> Mail Server thingy.. i forget what the command was to get to it
[08:43:26] <mordof> lol
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[08:44:23] <mordof> i really don't know what i'm doing very much.. this being the main problem.  there's so many wierd 'guides' on the net that i've looked at, and have tried a bunch unsuccessfully
[08:44:48] <mordof> removing all the packages it told me to install after i couldn't get it to work.. but that still likely caused problems
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[11:54:40] <AndroidData> anybody here? <_<
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[11:59:51] <efphe> hi alls, i have a simple question:
[11:59:57] <dragonheart> Tykling: look for autoresponder
[12:00:23] <dragonheart> efphe: questions are usually easier to ask than answer :-)
[12:00:31] <Tykling> great, thank you dragonheart
[12:01:15] <efphe> is sasl mandatory to allow relay with user/password authentication? or does postfix contains something more simple itself, without the need to configure cyrus-sasl? if i remember, i was able to specify authentication credentials on a hash:db file, directlyl from main.cf.... maybe i was drunk
[12:03:15] <efphe> it would be nice to configure smtpd authentication as smtp authentication, where i can specify `smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd`... is this possible?
[12:03:44] <dragonheart> efphe: postfix sasl is either dovecot or cyrus. a hash lookup isn't sasl so i don't think that is possible. there are methods which dovecot can use to access authentication. not sure about cyrus.
[12:04:11] <efphe> dragonheart, yes this is the point. I don't want sasl, i need only tls and basic auth
[12:05:08] <efphe> or, to say better, i would postfix handel auth directly, reading credentials from a hash lookup
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[12:05:22] <efphe> without additional modules
[12:05:57] <dragonheart> http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html
[12:06:17] <dragonheart> there is a hash map for outgoing smtp auth but not for smtpd in my quick read.
[12:06:45] <efphe> dragonheart, i come from here. it seems that postfix does not contain an authentication layer for smtpd authentication: it seems sasl is mandatory.
[12:06:48] <efphe> exactly
[12:07:02] <efphe> that's strange
[12:07:13] <efphe> so i need sasl
[12:08:23] <dragonheart> yep
[12:09:19] <efphe> dragonheart, this would be a simple and nice feature, to allow postfix handle basic authentication without the need to install great modules
[12:10:34] <efphe> i miss this feature, because i have to install sasl framework for too much simple task. i can understand a modular approach when i need to make authentication againsta something like ldap, passwd, but for simple tasks this is too much in my opinion
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[12:11:04] <dragonheart> and really sasl is an authentication layer. it provides a good layer of separation between modules to minimise code fault risk. seeing what Wyste has written on lists before he'll usually accept a well written patch
[12:11:28] <dragonheart> Wietse (er my bad)
[12:20:07] <efphe> if i want to open the relay based upon sender address (yes, i know that's not secure), i specify:
[12:20:11] <efphe> smtpd_sender_restrictions= check_sender_access hash:/etc/postfix/foo
[12:20:34] <efphe> after that, how can i say this is enough? relay continues to be denied
[12:22:02] <dragonheart> on phone - on sec
[12:24:34] <dragonheart> looked at certificate auth?
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[12:28:23] <efphe> dragonheart, yes, but it will be too difficult for my not experienced clients(users)
[12:28:40] <efphe> ok
[12:28:43] <dragonheart> ah ok
[12:28:57] <efphe> i specified smtpd_recipient_restr. and smtpd_sender_restr.
[12:29:01] <efphe> now it works
[12:29:08] <dragonheart> great
[12:29:22] <efphe> if someoned will discover a good mail from, my smtp server is totally open ;>
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[12:38:42] <AndroidData> hi. how can I get postfix to work with osticket? <_<
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[13:09:17] <adaptr> how will you get oscrapper to work with postfix, eh ?
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[13:09:55] <AndroidData> oscrapper? it sucks? what is wrong with it??
[13:10:40] <adaptr> I have no idea what it is, but you want to alter your MTA to suit $sucky_application
[13:10:44] <adaptr> you don't
[13:11:06] <adaptr> you fix sucky_application to behave in a standards-conformant way so it can peacefully coexist with the MTA
[13:12:13] <AndroidData> or that
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[13:42:30] <asd21asd> anyone around?
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[13:49:03] <[sr]> hi
[13:49:14] <[sr]> when sending multiple emails in BCC field
[13:49:15] <AndroidData> bye
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[13:49:46] <[sr]> in the receipents i get: undisclosed receipend;:smtp.myserver.com
[13:50:03] <[sr]> isn't possible to transform this to only "undisclosed receipent?
[13:56:51] <adaptr> post some logs where this is evidenced
[13:56:55] <adaptr> sounds like a misconfigure
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[13:57:27] <[sr]> well, in the logs i don't see nothing strange
[13:58:35] <adaptr> carry on, then
[13:59:34] <[sr]> unless i try the debug option, and they may apear some info right?
[14:00:29] <adaptr> no... pastebin a complete log of the transaction in question
[14:00:43] <[sr]> give me 10m
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[14:36:25] <sega01> hey
[14:36:39] <sega01> i have postfix working quite well with SPF and dovecot for authentication
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[14:37:06] <sega01> however, an unauthenticated user can send email as someone@$mydomain to someoneelse@$mydomain
[14:37:17] <sega01> any suggestions as to how to only allow authenticated users to do that?
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[14:46:10] <uid00> elp!
[14:46:16] <uid00> i'm hurting here
[14:46:28] <uid00> i keep getting relay access denied on a recently migrated postfix server
[14:46:30] <uid00> don't know why
[14:46:35] <uid00> dns is updated, etc.
[14:48:00] <uid00> eh don't all ehlp out once :)
[14:48:15] <sega01> for whom do you want it to relay?
[14:48:21] <sega01> or are you using authentication?
[14:48:28] <uid00> not trying to relay at all
[14:48:34] <uid00> authentication is being used TLS, yes
[14:48:49] <uid00> i just changed mx record of old server domain to point to point to IP of new mail server
[14:48:53] <uid00> updated main.cf
[14:48:55] <uid00> and then this shit :)
[14:49:02] <uid00> i thought it was all set up, using the old domain
[14:49:17] <uid00> for instance.  older system was mail.server.com, newer system was mail.server.biz
[14:49:31] <uid00> i just changed A-record/IP of mail.server.com to point to IP of new mail system
[14:49:35] <uid00> or at least that was the plan.
[14:49:41] <uid00> of course, I updated main.cf and a few other thigns
[14:49:43] <sega01> you didn't test this before switching the mx record?
[14:49:52] <uid00> the new system was working fine
[14:49:57] <uid00> under .biz domain
[14:50:07] <sega01> did you change $mydomain?
[14:50:12] <uid00> yes
[14:50:25] <uid00> my domain would be:  mail.server.com no?
[14:50:45] <sega01> if that is what the mx record points to
[14:50:54] <uid00> it does
[14:51:15] <sega01> does mail.server.com point to the new mail server?
[14:51:17] <uid00> but i keep seeing/getting these relay errors
[14:51:28] <sega01> btw, is it the same mail server on a different domain, or a different mail server on a different domain?
[14:51:40] <sega01> can you send mail through it at all?
[14:51:47] <uid00> different mail server on same domain
[14:51:50] <uid00> just changed mx
[14:52:12] <uid00> lemme back up here
[14:52:22] <uid00> i had mail.server.com working fine, mail.server.biz working fine
[14:52:38] <uid00> i've moved mail.server.com --> A record, to point to server at mail.server.biz
[14:52:52] <uid00> so now, mail.server.com, mail.server.biz point to new system
[14:53:07] <sega01> ok
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[14:53:17] <uid00> but i want to use the .com as the mail serv as it would not require me to update all user's configs come tomorrow morning
[14:53:49] <sega01> then point the A record back :-)
[14:53:54] <uid00> jeebus
[14:53:58] <sega01> if you want to stay with the old server
[14:54:02] <uid00> i don't
[14:54:12] <sega01> oh, sorry
[14:54:14] <sega01> misunderstood
[14:54:24] <sega01> hmm
[14:54:25] <uid00> i want the server at .biz (where .com is now pointed) to work :)
[14:54:39] <sega01> can you send mail as .biz through the .biz server?
[14:56:20] <uid00> oddly, yes
[14:56:25] <uid00> but it looks like dns hasn't propp
[14:56:33] <uid00> because when i look at the email header
[14:56:44] <uid00> it shows that the mail came from mail.server.com's old IP address
[14:56:46] <sega01> restart your caching server
[14:56:49] <uid00> and that server is actually off...
[14:56:56] <uid00> caching server?
[14:57:01] <sega01> caching dns server
[14:57:03] <uid00> sorry, bit n00b here
[14:57:08] <uid00> i'm not running my own dns
[14:57:09] <sega01> so you can test with a clean dns slate
[14:57:16] <sega01> ok
[14:57:28] <sega01> dig mail.server.biz
[14:57:31] <sega01> and mail.server.com
[14:57:32] <uid00> yeah
[14:57:34] <uid00> did it
[14:57:39] <sega01> do they point to the right places?
[14:57:39] <uid00> they have same IP of new system :)
[14:57:43] <sega01> ok
[14:57:56] <sega01> was the header from an email sent to an external mail server?
[14:58:05] <uid00> yeah
[14:58:26] <uid00> i sent a message via mail.server.biz...to external account. looked at header. says it came from IP at mail.server.com
[14:58:32] <uid00> and that server (mail server) is off.
[14:59:37] <uid00> i changed the server name to connect to on my account, the .biz one...
[14:59:49] <uid00> so i have user at server dot com, mail:  mail.server.biz....i actually can connect
[14:59:59] <uid00> but when I send an email...says it's coming from mail.server.com IP...
[15:00:02] <uid00> is that just a DNS thing?
[15:00:49] <sega01> quite possibly
[15:01:02] <sega01> you could send an email to root at go-beyond dot org
[15:01:07] <sega01> i presume i don't have your server in cache
[15:01:14] <sega01> i run my own caching resolver
[15:01:18] <uid00> i'm assuming no, as I don't know wtf that is :)
[15:01:27] <uid00> here you ...email comin sega01
[15:02:57] <uid00> i uh take some of that back
[15:03:08] <uid00> looks like I can connect via .biz...but cannot send to or from my client
[15:03:12] <uid00> hmm
[15:03:26] <uid00> i looked at the reject letter when sending to via external account
[15:03:29] <uid00> says relay access denied
[15:03:36] <uid00> from mail.server.com (which is good)
[15:03:40] <uid00> and it shows the new IP
[15:03:43] <uid00> so that's a start I guess
[15:03:54] <sega01> ok
[15:03:59] <sega01> hmm
[15:04:25] <sega01> so the new server cannot send from .biz now?
[15:04:40] <sega01> checking syslog would be helpful
[15:05:02] <uid00> ok, backing up
[15:06:00] <uid00> i can connect...via mail.server.net to the mail serv
[15:06:05] <uid00> i see my imap folders, shares
[15:06:14] <uid00> i cannot send.  getting that relay access denied error
[15:06:20] <uid00> at least it's pointing to right IP
[15:06:35] <uid00> looking at tail of /var/log/maillog
[15:06:44] <uid00> i see nothing but relay errors, even from spam messages
[15:06:54] <uid00> so nothing is coming in
[15:06:57] <uid00> or going out
[15:07:17] <uid00> but
[15:07:27] <uid00> i did get a mail warning message from root, one that i sent via CLI
[15:07:42] <uid00> probably not quite the same as it probably didn't go over wire to deliver it
[15:07:48] <uid00> just dropped it into my inbox i suppose
[15:07:49] <sega01> sounds like local relay is working then
[15:08:17] <sega01> pastebin'ing your main.cf would help
[15:08:24] <uid00> eh, sure :)
[15:08:54] <sega01> i have to get going for now though, *might* be back soon or in a few hours
[15:08:56] <sega01> good luck :-)
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[15:12:13] <uid00> eh
[15:12:15] <uid00> damn
[15:12:24] <uid00> anyone else wanna help a poor ol' n00b out?
[15:22:43] <adaptr> depends
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[15:29:17] <uid00> not sure what that means adaptr
[15:29:30] <uid00> simple yes/no as i see it
[15:29:41] <uid00> only think I can give is my groveling thank yous :)
[15:29:46] <uid00> thing..
[15:30:09] <shasta> !relay_denied
[15:30:10] <knoba> shasta: "relay_denied" : \"554 5.7.1 <RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN>: Relay access denied; from=<SENDER_ADDRESS> to=<RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN> proto=ESMTP helo=<HELO>\": This typically means that CLIENT_IP is not in mynetworks (and did not AUTH), and that RCPT_DOMAIN was not recognized as one of this Postfix's domains (not listed in mydestination, relay_domains or virtual_*_domains).
[15:30:35] <uid00> ?
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[15:34:04] <Haris> WHen I enabled submissions in master.cf, shouldn't postfix show SMTP AUTH in ehlo domain.com's output?
[15:34:57] <dragonheart> Haris: is it expecting ssl first? if so use openssl s_client -connect host:587 -starttls smtp
[15:40:03] <Haris> forgot that step from http://qmail.jms1.net/test-auth.shtml
[15:40:11] <Haris> shEEP! small stupid mistakes
[15:41:33] <Haris> CONNECTED(00000003)
[15:41:34] <Haris> 5013:error:140770FC:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:unknown protocol:s23_clnt.c:475:
[15:41:45] <Haris> ?
[15:42:43] <dragonheart> you are using -starttls smtp?
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[15:42:58] <Haris> openssl s_client -starttls smtp -crlf -connect host:587
[15:44:39] <uid00> still getting relay access denied error :<
[15:46:33] <Haris> I have only configured submission in master.cf, I haven't configured tls or sasl in main.cf
[15:47:52] <Haris> when I just telnet to port 587, and do helo domain.com, STARTTLS is not in the list
[15:48:29] <Haris> what did I miss?
[15:49:03] <dragonheart> telling it where the certificate/private key is maybe?
[15:49:19] <Haris> haven't done that
[15:49:47] <dragonheart> could help.
[15:50:00] <dragonheart> gn -sleep could help me :-). have fun
[15:51:48] <Haris> night
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[16:01:11] <Haris> ldd /usr/libexec/postfix/smtpd
[16:01:16] <Haris> shows;
[16:01:25] <Haris> libssl.so.6 => /lib/libssl.so.6 (0x002aa000)
[16:01:41] <Haris> and libsasl2.so.2 => /usr/lib/libsasl2.so.2 (0x00950000)
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[16:45:39] <Haris> ok, done, tls added
[17:01:09] <Haris> does postfix support DKIM (domain keys)?
[17:04:06] <shasta> not internally, no, you need 3rd-party software
[17:04:31] <Haris> which is
[17:04:35] <Dominian> Haris: dkimproxy is one
[17:04:38] <Haris> perl mods?
[17:04:40] <Dominian> thre's also dkim-milter
[17:05:07] <Dominian> I use dkimproxy.. easy to setup.. and you can do outbound/inbound if you want.. outbound for signing.. inbound for verification.
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[17:12:30] <Haris> well
[17:12:32] <Haris> tls is installed
[17:12:41] <Haris> STARTLS shows up in ehlo domain.com
[17:13:00] <Haris> yet when I hit port 587 with openssl, it still gives the same error
[17:13:13] <Haris> 4876:error:140770FC:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:unknown protocol:s23_clnt.c:475:
[17:13:26] <Haris> do we have to enable ssl 2/3 ?
[17:13:31] <Haris> in postfix
[17:14:04] <Haris> STARTTLS
[17:14:04] <Haris> 454 4.3.0 TLS not available due to local problem
[17:14:26] <Haris> what does this mean?
[17:14:32] <Haris> tls is not configured properly?
[17:18:03] <Haris> got it;
[17:18:03] <Haris> Aug 31 16:36:01 mc postfix/smtpd[10068]: warning: connect to private/tlsmgr: Connection refused
[17:18:03] <Haris> Aug 31 16:36:01 mc postfix/smtpd[10068]: warning: problem talking to server private/tlsmgr: Connection refused
[17:18:09] <Haris> tlsmgr?
[17:21:01] <vice-versa> tlsmgr(8)
[17:21:08] <Haris> ok, I have /usr/libexec/postfix/tlsmgr
[17:21:14] <Haris> how does one use it?
[17:21:16] <Haris> I was reading that
[17:22:01] <Haris> something about loglevels, nothing about configuring or running it
[17:23:48] <shasta> grep tlsmgr /etc/postfix/master.cf
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[17:49:10] <Haris> no output
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[17:51:09] <vice-versa> that's your issue then
[17:51:32] <rob0> some kind of botched upgrade?
[17:52:15] <Haris> nope
[17:52:35] <Haris> its a very old simple, straight forward rpm install on fc6
[17:52:50] <Haris> tlsmgr    unix  -       -       n       300     1       tlsmgr
[17:52:51] * vice-versa guess a master.cf from a distro package that did not have tls support
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[17:52:54] <Haris> is this all I need?
[17:53:42] <tealson> Hello, I just installed postfix from source, akwardly it did not install /usr/bin/newaliases although it should have. The install log also states "updating /usr/bin/newaliases..." any idea?
[17:53:42] <Haris> I did show above -> ldd /usr/libexec/postfix/smtpd output shows these -> 1) libssl.so.6 => /lib/libssl.so.6 (0x002aa000) 2) libsasl2.so.2 => /usr/lib/libsasl2.so.2 (0x00950000)
[17:54:15] <Haris> http://gentoo-wiki.com/Complete_Virtual_Mail_Server/Web_Access
[17:55:13] <Haris> do I need just this one line or the one above it as well on the above URL?
[17:55:26] <Haris> ssmtp
[17:56:41] <Haris> the above line did it
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[17:58:05] <Haris> starttls shows up in helo message, but no auth methods are mentioned
[17:59:14] <Haris> starttls
[17:59:14] <Haris> 220 2.0.0 Ready to start TLS
[17:59:19] <Haris> this is on port 25
[17:59:28] <Haris> TLS is set, auth methods are missing
[17:59:31] <Haris> o.o
[18:00:09] <shasta> sigh
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[18:00:13] <shasta> !sasl
[18:00:14] <knoba> shasta: "sasl" : SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.
[18:01:00] <Haris> sasl is imposible
[18:01:13] <shasta> [17:59:29] < Haris> TLS is set, auth methods are missing
[18:01:14] <shasta> [18:01:01] < Haris> sasl is imposible
[18:01:17] <shasta> make up your mind
[18:01:25] <Haris> postconf -a has no output
[18:01:39] <rob0> More interesting to me would be this question: how/why did you lose the tlsmgr(8) entry from master.cf?
[18:02:04] <Haris> rob0: No idea. It wasn't there when I took over
[18:02:25] <Haris> I'm having the owner move to a new box, but not sure when that'll happen
[18:02:40] <rob0> You're spending a whole lot of time to undo mistakes that should never have happened.
[18:04:58] <Haris> well, I hate old versions of rpm based OSs. There's no easy way to make things work
[18:05:14] <Haris> I'v convinced the owner to move to freebsd/postfix
[18:05:29] <Haris> freebsd is MUCH more flexible
[18:06:57] <Haris> I went to #fedora, but they don't support fc6. Its too old in their opinion. no one talks in #fedora-legacy. And there's no repository on the internet which has postfix for fc6 which has mysql+sasl auth support :|
[18:09:27] <uid00> hey so i figured out my relay issue
[18:09:33] <uid00> it was likely from misconfig'd host
[18:09:44] <uid00> that is, the host name wasn't set properly
[18:09:47] <uid00> via /etc/hosts
[18:10:02] <uid00> so now i gotta wait for that to resolve.  it just updated a few mins ago on the soa
[18:10:06] <uid00> i have to wait hours now...
[18:10:08] <uid00> jeez
[18:12:34] <Haris> ok, so with submission port set, tls enabled
[18:12:44] <Haris> I still can't get some kind of smtp auth to work
[18:13:01] <Haris> do I have any other choices?
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[18:29:23] <cheetahw26> how can i install that mail service?  like from bash where you can just type;  mail test at example dot com .. and then enter to from etc.
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[18:37:33] <deface> what distro ?
[18:45:36] <sega01> hey
[18:46:37] <sega01> cheetahw26: `mail` is part of the mailx package
[18:46:57] <sega01> i have postfix working quite nicely with SPF and dovecot for authentication
[18:47:22] <sega01> however, and unauthenticated user can use the server to send email as someone @$mydomain to someone else@$mydomain
[18:47:34] <sega01> any suggestions in regards to only allowing authenticated users to do this?
[18:48:32] <deface> sega01: open relay ?
[18:48:43] <deface> past your main.cf
[18:48:47] <deface> paste *
[18:49:04] <deface> rafb.net
[18:51:14] <cheetahw26> mailx ... thanks thats the name :)
[18:51:57] <sega01> it is not an open relay
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[18:52:18] <sega01> that is normal behavior
[18:52:24] <sega01> or default
[18:52:24] <deface> smtpd_recipient_restrictions =
[18:52:25] <Dominian> that's normal behavior
[18:53:35] <sega01> http://go-beyond.org/sega01/misc/main.cf.txt
[18:53:57] <deface> http://rafb.net/p/bs9SI266.html
[18:54:43] <deface> nasty file, clean that up
[18:58:10] <vindex> yo
[18:58:13] <vindex> anyone around?
[18:58:16] <Dominian> no
[18:58:18] <vindex> :P
[18:58:32] <vindex> im having 'trouble' with my current setup
[18:58:56] <Dominian> what's the trouble and what steps have you taken to troubleshoot it?
[18:59:11] <vindex> basically i can login to my IMAP (courier-imap + postfix with sasl auth) using the bare unix username but when using user at foo dot tld format it wont le tme in
[18:59:30] <Dominian> sounds like you're using local accounts for authentication.
[18:59:38] <vindex> postfix latest version, courier-imap latest as well, it's configured to use SMTP+TLS and SASL auth backed by pam
[18:59:41] <vindex> indeed
[18:59:46] <Dominian> and that would be within SASL how it takes the format of what is allowecd for authentication iirc
[18:59:56] <vindex> i wnated to have virtual mail configured without a db backend
[18:59:58] <vindex> using hash files
[19:00:00] <Dominian> I don't do local accounts fo rauth so..
[19:00:29] <Dominian> I'll bbiab
[19:02:37] <deface> vindex: what do you have in /etc/courier/authlib/authdaemonrc ?
[19:02:38] <deface> authmodulelist="authmysql authpam"
[19:04:59] <deface> grep
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[19:09:28] <sega01> deface: should i add any of that to fix the issue?
[19:09:34] <vindex> deface: one sec
[19:09:47] <vindex> btw this is gentoo
[19:10:01] <vindex> authmodulelist="authpam "
[19:10:09] <vindex> i rm'd authmysql
[19:10:47] <deface> thats fine, authpam would only allow local users, unless your trying to use another backend
[19:11:10] <deface> local_recipient_maps = $alias_maps $virtual_mailbox_maps unix:passwd.byname
[19:11:18] <deface> unix:
[19:13:09] <vindex> deface: i want to do virtual mail using hash files, dont want to depend on a db for my stuff since it will be small anyway, and a db is overkill
[19:14:04] <deface> do you have any virtual_* defined in main.cf ?
[19:14:28] <deface> http://rafb.net/p/bs9SI266.html
[19:14:32] <deface> just change mysql to hash
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[19:17:06] <vindex> not yet
[19:17:26] <vindex> ok, let's get this going :)
[19:17:28] <vindex> one sec
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[19:19:06] <vindex> deface: thanks already for helping out
[19:19:17] <vindex> deface: what's in your mime headers check regexp file?
[19:19:47] <deface> http://rafb.net/p/Fk3ODM87.html
[19:25:21] <vindex> deface: thanks mate, done, now let's see the hash file stuff
[19:25:42] <vindex> so basically this will transport/deliver mail first to virtual designated recipients and then unix local accounts
[19:25:56] <vindex> it maps the perms to a static UID and GID
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[19:26:38] <deface> yup
[19:26:40] <vindex> deface: what home dir should the vdir user have?
[19:26:55] <deface> im using /var/mail, which is actually syminked to /home/vmail
[19:27:07] <deface> err /var/vmail
[19:27:27] <vindex> ok
[19:27:30] <vindex> thanks
[19:27:35] <deface> yup
[19:29:05] <vindex> vmail:x:1004:1012::/home/vmail:/bin/false
[19:29:13] <vindex> so UID maps to 1004 and GID to 1012
[19:29:16] <deface> yes
[19:29:54] <vindex> how about virtual_minimum_uid?
[19:30:05] <vindex> should it be 1000 for normla users or it will conflict for users with uid<1000?
[19:30:13] <vindex> such as daemons and system accounts with no enabled login
[19:30:26] <deface> 1004
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[19:34:12] <vindex> oh ok
[19:34:28] <vindex> that's only vmail and up
[19:34:45] <deface> yes, virtual only
[19:36:00] <vindex> ok
[19:36:23] <vindex> i observed i had smtpd_sasl_local_domain set to empty value
[19:36:28] <vindex> should I change that?
[19:36:34] <vindex> to $mydomain?
[19:36:46] <deface> u can
[19:36:53] <vindex> ok
[19:37:04] <vindex> ok, done with main config, now let's see the maps files
[19:37:11] <deface> i just have my local users aliased to a virtual
[19:37:24] <deface> i dont use local
[19:38:32] <vindex> i will do that, seems like the best option
[19:38:57] <vindex> better security, even though their accs are disabled if something happens someone can still get their privilege level off the mail enabled account
[19:39:31] <vindex> deface: so how can I set up that?
[19:39:43] <vice-versa> !virtual
[19:39:45] <knoba> vice-versa: "virtual" : a way to configure additional domains and user accounts (that do not need to exist in your /etc/passwd). See: http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html
[19:41:51] <deface> vindex: you want to use a db? or hash files ?
[19:42:05] <deface> i use mysql, and postfixadmin
[19:42:08] <deface> easy shit
[19:42:27] <deface> oops, forgot this is freenode ..
[19:44:14] <cheetahw26> where can i fine tune the logs.. or see the full smtp conversation ?
[19:44:58] <deface> smtpd_tls_loglevel = 3 ?
[19:45:03] <deface> not sure if there's a smtpd_loglevel
[19:45:44] <vindex> hash files
[19:46:09] <vindex> deface: haha, i dont mind the language, i had my share of kickbans with automated bots already
[19:46:10] <vindex> :P
[19:46:16] <deface> vindex: then yeah, go ahead follow the link above
[19:46:24] <deface> ;)
[19:47:24] <vindex> done, my doubts are more about the auth side
[19:47:30] <vindex> that seems straightforward
[19:47:46] <vindex> what did you set up for mysql btw? all howtos ive found have somewhat outdated info
[19:48:52] <deface> i dont mind passing on my files if you want em
[19:49:12] <deface> i only do gentoo as well ;)
[19:49:50] <vindex> sma here, i ended up ina stupid argument over the gentoo-server channel too, but it didnt help that i was sleepy and pissed off with postfix
[19:50:07] <sysmonk> evening
[19:50:17] <rob0> Post off with pistfox?
[19:50:33] <vindex> im just a bit concerned about mysql as backend to postfix, ive seen a particular case in which something pretty ugly was done using postfix as vector to a localhost-only enabled mysql instance
[19:50:35] <sysmonk> post off!
[19:50:52] <vindex> rob0: hah
[19:50:53] <sysmonk> vindex: as a what?
[19:51:17] <vindex> sysmonk: apparently there are issues with some multibyte encoding input
[19:51:38] <sysmonk> with pistfox?
[19:51:48] <vindex> heh, indeed
[19:51:56] <deface> vindex: the mysql is just for auth, not storage
[19:52:20] <sysmonk> for teh 'meta data' ( aliases, user database and etc)
[19:52:25] <vindex> deface: aye
[19:52:30] <sysmonk> + you can give pistfox only read-only access to the table
[19:52:38] <sysmonk> pistfox doesn't even know how to write to mysql
[19:53:02] <deface> yeah, you'd rely on something like postfixadmin or phpmyadmin to maintain the table
[19:53:13] <sysmonk> ouch
[19:53:19] <sysmonk> libmysqlclient and some syscalls ;P
[19:53:32] <deface> unless your uber l33t like sysmonk
[19:53:38] <sysmonk> haha
[19:53:43] * vice-versa confiscates the crack pipes
[19:53:53] <sysmonk> vice-versa: heeeey!
[19:53:55] <sysmonk> stop that!
[19:54:10] <sysmonk> you ruined all the fun;/
[19:54:29] <vindex> vice-versa: dont stop me from hitting the pipes bro!
[19:56:55] <sysmonk> vacations ended, tomorrow is a work day ;/
[19:57:07] <sysmonk> ufff, i wonder how big is my inbox after 2 weeks of not looking at it ...
[19:57:11] <vindex> yeah man
[19:57:15] <vindex> back tot he routine
[19:57:20] <sysmonk> i usually get ~1k mails / day
[19:57:28] <vindex> ive been enjoying an extra dose of xbox and clubs for the last few weeks here
[19:57:33] <sysmonk> it will be a lot of cups of coffe tomorrow ;P
[19:57:47] * sysmonk never used xbox
[19:57:54] <sysmonk> nor PS/PS2/WII
[19:57:57] <vindex> xbox = trouble killer
[19:58:07] <vindex> play & get rid of stress
[19:58:22] <vindex> been playing a game called 'too human' here for the last few days
[19:58:26] <vindex> fun stuff
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[20:44:16] <vindex>  On the Postfix side, you can have only one realm per smtpd(8) instance, and only the users belonging to that realm would be able to authenticate.  The Postfix variable smtpd_sasl_local_domain controls the realm used by smtpd(8):    /etc/postfix/main.cf:     smtpd_sasl_local_domain = $myhostname
[20:44:18] <vindex> huh
[20:44:32] <vindex> im trying to use sasldb auth for my virtual mail setup
[20:44:48] <vindex> does that mean it wont work with more than one domain?
[20:45:32] <uid00> hey sega01
[20:45:35] <uid00> you're back :)
[20:45:51] <uid00> just fyi, i think my problem was in the domain name
[20:46:09] <uid00> but as of now, i've been waiting ~ 3 hrs for the update on the host name to travel teh tubes
[20:46:11] <uid00> so i don't know
[20:46:32] <uid00> what i don't get is:
[20:46:54] <uid00> why is changing the IP of an mx at mail.server.com --> new ip, considered 'relaying' error
[20:47:12] <uid00> the error would have made more sense if it said, 'domain doesn't match'
[20:47:21] <uid00> as that's the default behavior of mailservers, not to rely
[20:47:23] <uid00> relay
[20:47:25] <uid00> but anyhow
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[20:47:58] <munichlinux> fatal: /etc/postfix/master.cf: line 38: bad transport type: -d, i get this i trying dbmail over postfix
[20:50:16] <vice-versa> looks like you induced a configuration error into master.cf
[20:50:48] <shasta> probably started new line without space when you needed one
[20:51:02] <shasta> i bet line 38 of your master.cf starts with "-d"
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[20:55:19] <munichlinux> shasta, no
[20:56:08] <munichlinux> http://pastebin.com/m3ae0c869
[20:56:14] <munichlinux> this is my master.cf
[20:56:31] <munichlinux> i am tying to get this dbmail working :(
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[20:57:34] <vice-versa> munichlinux: give line 37 some leading white space
[20:57:55] <munichlinux> vice-versa, ok let me give a shot
[20:58:50] <munichlinux> vice-versa, cool worked
[21:00:48] <vice-versa> white space works in a pinch when your out of magic pixie dust ;)
[21:01:33] <vindex> how can i disable authdaemonrc? it seems to be conflicting with my current setup
[21:01:38] <vindex> i enabled sasl to use sasldb
[21:02:49] <munichlinux> http://pastebin.com/d6c110e3c, (unknown mail transport error)
[21:06:42] <munichlinux> vice-versa, could you able to reorganize the error?
[21:06:53] <munichlinux> unknow mail transport error ?
[21:11:06] <vice-versa> munichlinux: probably more to do with 'fatal: unknown attribute name: argv'
[21:11:53] <munichlinux> vice-versa, ya i spotted that now but the lines was given in the dbmail doc
[21:12:05] <munichlinux> to add in the master.cf
[21:12:16] <rob0> again, bad formatting of master.cf, see "man 5 master" and the leading comments in master.cf. If dbmail docs are bad, you might want to tell them so.
[21:12:18] <vice-versa> seems to me that the user=someuser argument is a required with pipe
[21:12:36] <sega01> uid00: nice, glad it is working
[21:12:46] <uid00> not really :)
[21:12:47] <rob0> I think if user= is omitted it would use default_privs.
[21:13:03] <uid00> you see, sega01, i have to wait for the dns propagation to confirm
[21:13:07] <uid00> but it likely was the thing
[21:14:05] <sega01> i'm still not sure how it would be dns
[21:14:10] <sega01> but time will tell
[21:14:27] <sega01> unless maybe there is SPF involved
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[21:20:03] <rob0> 0, mail.server.com is NXDOMAIN
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[21:24:40] <uid00> that's what the support trolls told me
[21:24:45] <uid00> i really had nothing else to go on
[21:24:58] <uid00> besides, he was right to a point - what that myhost name was not set right on the machine
[21:25:02] <uid00> so it made some sense
[21:25:10] <uid00> but aagain, i'm noob.
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[21:29:18] <munichlinux> ha! dbmail works finally :)
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[21:31:19] <rob0> DNS issues are impossible to troubleshoot if you don't tell us the real name. I'm betting you were using mail.server.com as an example, rather than example.com as was set aside for examples.
[21:31:23] <vindex> im having trouble configuring postfix to use SASL auth with sasldb on gentoo
[21:31:26] <vindex> anyone can help?
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[21:49:39] <Haris> Can we add/remove headers with postfix?
[21:50:19] <Haris> Can we make postfix perform custom actions, like run shell scripts, email someone a pre-define mail when a certain event occurs, like a bounce or when my MTA/box is marked as spam source
[21:50:34] <Haris> automatically, that is
[21:51:37] <Knoedel2> has here someone a procmail script to sort,deliver,delete spam level tags
[21:51:43] <Knoedel2> ?
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[21:55:46] <uid00> still getting this relay error :<
[21:55:51] <uid00> jeebuz
[21:55:53] <uid00> guys, i'm hurting here
[21:55:58] <uid00> not sure what to check next
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[21:57:00] <uid00> i can now send mail via the host, but not receive
[21:57:04] <uid00> getting relay/access denied
[22:00:43] <rob0> !relay_denied
[22:00:44] <knoba> rob0: "relay_denied" : \"554 5.7.1 <RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN>: Relay access denied; from=<SENDER_ADDRESS> to=<RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN> proto=ESMTP helo=<HELO>\": This typically means that CLIENT_IP is not in mynetworks (and did not AUTH), and that RCPT_DOMAIN was not recognized as one of this Postfix's domains (not listed in mydestination, relay_domains or virtual_*_domains).
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[22:09:52] <uid00> ok..
[22:10:01] <uid00> if that helped the first time, i wouldn't keep asking :)
[22:10:18] <uid00> here's the pastbin of my $mydestination var in /postfix/main.cf
[22:10:53] <uid00> http://pastebin.com/d6c13a130
[22:11:09] <uid00> oh and output of main.cf is here too
[22:11:22] <uid00> rather postconf -n
[22:12:13] <uid00> http://pastebin.com/m10411380
[22:13:03] <uid00> mydestination$ has $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, localhost, $mydomain and mail.$mydomain
[22:13:07] <uid00> some of that is overkill, but meh
[22:13:52] <shasta> uid00, also, pastebin the entire log message
[22:13:52] <uid00> dang guys
[22:13:59] <uid00> which one, shasta?
[22:14:09] <uid00> i can give you a generic RELAY error log thing if you want
[22:14:37] <uid00> but as stated, i can send now from host, just not receive..
[22:15:05] <shasta> then pastebin the one you see when receiving emails
[22:15:18] <uid00> here's an error
[22:15:20] <uid00> http://pastebin.com/d59fe886e
[22:15:25] <uid00> when trying to receive
[22:15:58] <shasta> sigh
[22:16:05] <shasta> to=<gz at one-planet dot net>
[22:16:15] <shasta> do you see "one-planet.net" in mydestination?
[22:16:17] <shasta> I don't
[22:16:50] <uid00> eh
[22:16:54] <uid00> isn't that $myhost
[22:17:05] <rob0> myhostname = mail.one-planet.net
[22:17:11] <rob0> you lose
[22:17:16] <uid00> same shiz, no?
[22:17:20] <uid00> same thing, that is
[22:17:22] <rob0> mydomain = mail.one-planet.net
[22:17:31] <rob0> one-planet.net != mail.one-planet.net
[22:17:45] <uid00> this is an email host system
[22:17:50] <vice-versa> that be two planets
[22:17:50] <uid00> one-planet.net is not going here
[22:17:55] <rob0> Okay, we're wrong then.
[22:17:58] <uid00> only mail.one-planet.net
[22:18:15] <uid00> the host system in question is the mail one
[22:18:25] <rob0> what SHOULD have happened with the error?
[22:18:42] <uid00> well, ideally, id' like no error and a sucessful mail delivery
[22:18:46] <uid00> but i'm just picky like that
[22:18:56] <shasta> uid00, this log message is clear: your system rejected email for gz at one-planet dot net because it's not the final destination for one-planet.net, and client isn't authorized to relay to one-planet.net via your host
[22:18:56] <rob0> mx2.clearsystem.net[65.75.170.201] isn't in mynetworks
[22:19:00] <shasta> period
[22:19:11] <rob0> mx2.clearsystem.net[65.75.170.201] didn't auth
[22:19:11] <uid00> i'm sorry take it slow for me
[22:19:13] <uid00> ok
[22:19:17] <uid00> i'm not relaying
[22:19:22] <uid00> or am I because of the mx th ing?
[22:19:27] <rob0> one-planet.net is not one of your domains.
[22:19:37] <uid00> well, it's not the name of the host, yes
[22:19:39] <uid00> the mail host
[22:19:40] <rob0> Just like the relay_denied factoid says.
[22:20:03] <uid00> ok...so, my mail.one-planet.net points to my mail host
[22:20:19] <uid00> and mail is coming from one-planet.net to mail.one-planet.net, that's a relay?
[22:20:27] <uid00> ...
[22:20:51] <shasta> "from" one-planet?
[22:21:20] <uid00> yes when someone emails * at one-planet dot net, it will 'use' mail.one-planet.net (pointed to mail host) to deliver mail
[22:21:20] <shasta> $ host -t mx one-planet.net
[22:21:21] <shasta> one-planet.net mail is handled by 10 mail.one-planet.net.
[22:21:26] <uid00> yes
[22:21:34] <uid00> and mail.one-planet.net is properly pointed to the mail host
[22:21:40] <uid00> the host name itself, mail.one-planet.net
[22:21:50] <rob0> Keep rereading what we have told you. Can't make it much clearer, I'm afraid.
[22:21:57] <uid00> i'm sorry for the disconnect guys :<
[22:22:01] <shasta> ... but the mail host is apparently misconfigured and doesn't accept emails for @one-planet.net
[22:22:09] <uid00> so, i guess, what I should be asking, is how to fix ?
[22:22:31] <uid00> i don't see how it's a relay thing, that's my befuddling thought on it
[22:22:44] <uid00> it seemed to me that if the a-record was set on the mx/mail subdomain it was all good
[22:23:09] <vice-versa> magic mx dust
[22:23:15] <shasta> relay is when SOMETHING uses your postfix to send email to SOMEDOMAIN, which that postfix isn't final destination for
[22:23:17] <uid00> at this point, i wish AI did have some
[22:23:44] <uid00> ok
[22:23:49] <uid00> why is this a relay then?
[22:23:51] <rob0> You're perhaps too busy typing, not rereading.\
[22:24:01] <uid00> when someone emails @one-planet.net, it goes to mail.one-planet.net, directly to the mail host
[22:24:05] <shasta> uid00, [22:22:02] < shasta> ... but the mail host is apparently misconfigured and doesn't accept emails for @one-planet.net
[22:24:14] <rob0> sigh
[22:24:31] <shasta> !mydestination
[22:24:32] <knoba> shasta: "mydestination" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The list of domains that Postfix delivers via the $local_transport mail delivery transport. By default, mail is given to the Postfix local(8) delivery agent that looks up all recipients in /etc/passwd and /etc/aliases, or their equivalents.
[22:24:39] <rob0> 20:16 < shasta> do you see "one-planet.net" in mydestination?
[22:24:56] <uid00> that's not the final destination...isn't the destination the name of the host?
[22:25:07] <rob0> !basic
[22:25:09] <knoba> rob0: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[22:25:10] <uid00> the name of the host server (mail) is NOT one-planet.net, it's mail.one-planet.net
[22:25:24] <shasta> read the basic configuration readme
[22:25:26] <shasta> MANY TIMES
[22:25:58] <shasta> you can't maintain a mailserver without SOME knowledge, sorry
[22:25:59] <uid00> hmm
[22:26:01] <rob0> 5-minute timeout. Read what you were told. Wait 5 minutes (or FIX it) before asking again.
[22:26:13] <uid00> that's what I was starting to do :)
[22:26:16] * uid00 reads...
[22:26:26] * vice-versa thinks we need a factoid link to a good basic Internet mail system primer
[22:26:47] <rob0> hint: the repasted lines were important enough to be repeated
[22:27:03] <rob0> vice-versa, write one, I don't think such a primer exists. :)
[22:27:14] <uid00> you know
[22:27:22] <uid00> i added that domain name to my destintations...
[22:27:26] <uid00> it works. i just don't know why
[22:27:29] * uid00 face palms
[22:27:57] <rob0> I don't know why you would expect it to work otherwise.
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[22:28:15] <uid00> well i'm not going to frustrate the shite out of you guys with that
[22:28:20] <uid00> i'll wrestle with that demon on my own
[22:28:29] <uid00> but many thanks, to all, for putting up with my nonsense, as it where
[22:28:35] <uid00> mail looks to be going in , spam included..
[22:28:44] <rob0> !cheatsheet
[22:28:44] <knoba> rob0: "cheatsheet" : http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt : A HOWTO for pre-DATA spam control.
[22:28:46] <rob0> :)
[22:28:53] <vice-versa> yum, spam
[22:28:59] <vice-versa> rob0: I think I might just do that
[22:29:41] <rob0> You're right, it really is needed.
[22:29:52] <vice-versa> indeed
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