August 18, 2008 
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August 18, 2008 [00:00:14] <Ramattack> for example... if you have a machine there and you have today more traffic than normal (because you have announced or something) we don't cut you're traffic when arrive to you're bandwith limit... we give you more at the moment...[00:00:49] <Ramattack> have been anounced (tv or something)[00:00:52] <sysmonk> i don't give a s*it, no english website!!! :)[00:01:03] <Ramattack> lol[00:02:11] <Ramattack> and here I was taking a look to bsd jails :)[00:02:21] *** blackflag has joined #postfix[00:04:03] <Ramattack> too many parties there sysmonk in you're holidays :) lol[00:04:16] <sysmonk> ?[00:04:35] <sysmonk> why?[00:04:36] <Ramattack> You said[00:04:41] <Ramattack> still alive :)[00:04:47] <sysmonk> nah, not because of parties[00:04:51] <Ramattack> 2-weeks of vacation[00:04:52] <sysmonk> my holidays started today only[00:05:07] <Ramattack> mine ones last week :)[00:06:16] *** action09 has quit IRC[00:06:25] <Ramattack> are u from US??[00:06:31] <sysmonk> nope[00:06:33] <sysmonk> lithuania[00:06:56] <Ramattack> oh... I thought u were from USA[00:07:16] <Ramattack> a friend of mine is working there... that's why i said... no matter...[00:18:00] *** Juspion has joined #postfix[00:24:58] *** slide has joined #postfix[00:33:06] <Ramattack> sysmonk, It's a bit dirty trick on freebsd not to be able to support linux kernel drivers on freebsd or not to be a bit more hw support on freebsd don't u think mate :)[00:33:33] *** boink__ has joined #postfix[00:34:52] *** raz has quit IRC[00:34:57] *** boink__ is now known as raz[00:36:26] <slide> is mail being bounced a bad thing?[00:43:12] *** higuita has quit IRC[00:47:40] *** F6F has quit IRC[00:50:35] <Ramattack> not really and bounces are necessary but you have to decide wich bounces are fine and wich not... just informational bounces are ok others are spam and are a bad thing....[00:50:36] <Ramattack> it's better rejecting mail at smtp time than bouncing :)[00:52:25] <Ramattack> for example[00:53:20] <Ramattack> if you're accepting all mail for a domain without doing recipient checks... it's a bad thing specially if it's the primary mx and too if its the secondary[00:53:47] <Ramattack> but is more dificult to have a recipient list....[00:53:59] <Ramattack> and you can't use a mechanism like verify for checking it....[00:54:38] <Ramattack> but it's not ok in both cases.... but sometimes you have to do... (when you're secondary mx and customer doesn't give you a recipient list...)[00:54:45] <Ramattack> for example[00:54:57] <Ramattack> or for example overquota bounces[00:55:19] <Ramattack> I did postfix-qreject project for maildir ++ mailboxes[00:55:30] <Ramattack> it allows mail to be rejected at smtp time....[00:55:37] <Ramattack> when mailbox is overquota[00:56:36] <Ramattack> a bad thing.... not but it can annoy people who havent nothing no to do with you and you're sending mail to them... then that bounces become spam....[00:56:56] *** saysaywhat has joined #postfix[00:57:09] <slide> well, mostly im getting 100s or pure spam to postmaster at mydomain dot com[00:57:18] <slide> and i have no idea what to do with it[00:57:22] <slide> id rather just reject it all[00:57:24] <Ramattack> remove them...[00:57:50] <saysaywhat> hey, can body_checks filter be used for out going mail ?[00:58:01] <Ramattack> but... definitively bounces are a bad thing when they're not controlled basically....[00:58:04] <slide> i dont want to accept them, since no valid email is coming in id rather not accept any[00:58:31] <Ramattack> saysaywhat, if the body_check is before an OK condition yes[00:58:57] *** Haris1 has quit IRC[00:58:58] <Ramattack> for example if you don't set permit authenticated before body checks yes[00:59:10] <saysaywhat> Rama "Ok condition" ?[00:59:12] <Ramattack> postfix doesn't treat different incoming mail than outgoing[00:59:31] <Ramattack> you know postfix has three types of "parameter status"[00:59:37] <Ramattack> ok, reject, dunno[00:59:53] <saysaywhat> out standing thanx Rama[01:00:16] <Ramattack> :) yep that's it[01:00:55] *** war9407 has quit IRC[01:00:56] <slide> Ramattack, how do I reject instead of bounce?[01:01:15] <saysaywhat> Rama I want yo use the IGNORE action on my outgoing mail body checks,[01:01:28] *** nardul has quit IRC[01:01:56] <Ramattack> slide, rejecting mail before entering in queue playing with postfix config[01:02:12] <Ramattack> IGNORE??[01:02:17] <slide> ugh lol that config is the most complicated thing ever[01:02:52] *** Haris1 has joined #postfix[01:02:58] <Ramattack> come in more or less ten minute mates gone to have dinner[01:03:18] *** Muisje has quit IRC[01:05:35] <saysaywhat> Rama in my body_checks I want to use the IGNORE action to remove text from the body of outgoing mail[01:15:58] *** jpalmer has quit IRC[01:22:26] *** GoGi has quit IRC[01:33:21] <Ramattack> saysaywhat, I havent used before text filtering in postfix just content filtering with amavis... but...[01:33:23] *** vecsig has joined #postfix[01:33:45] <vecsig> is there a good archive solution for postfix, but not always_bcc because it doesn't bcc after alias expansion[01:35:37] <Ramattack> as I have read it should work basically same way.... and it has some more status options than for smtpd_recipient_restrictions for example or smtpd_data....[01:36:28] <Ramattack> but anyway I suppose you create a hash map with filter options (that I think are quite similar than perl regexp, but not sure) and there to set the action[01:37:49] <Ramattack> entering in data restrictions[01:38:08] <Ramattack> sorry haven't done that concretely never....[01:38:10] <vecsig> well i guess the prob is that always_bcc happens before alias expansion only. so it's something that is close to a solution, however i cannot use it[01:38:26] <vecsig> so does postfix have some other sort of facility that is conventionally used for archive?[01:38:30] <saysaywhat> thanx Rama for your help Rama[01:39:59] <Ramattack> so basically I think you should enter a check regexp (or the proper syntax) and a file with patters to filter with they're action.... in smtpd_data_restrictions and that should give you what you want....[01:40:41] <Ramattack> mmmm[01:42:29] <Ramattack> saysaywhat, you could use one thing for only checking outgoing domains...[01:45:42] <Ramattack> I think you could enter...[01:45:43] <Ramattack> wait looking for it mate[01:45:55] *** skyweb has quit IRC[01:47:33] <Ramattack> well as far as I have seen body_checks are for all domains in main.cf[01:47:52] *** jeev has quit IRC[01:49:28] <Ramattack> I think perhaps would be better to set a new smtpd instance... and specify for it body and header checks.... and redirect traffic for non local domains to there....[01:52:11] <saysaywhat> I give your ideas a try thanx[01:53:45] <Ramattack> and specify for that smtpd instance that body checks[01:53:45] <Ramattack> I mean....[01:53:48] <Ramattack> set you're local domains for example as relay domains and in transport table set to pass all you're localdomains to new smtpd instance with body checks...[01:53:53] <Ramattack> and you would get you're goal[01:53:57] <Ramattack> have I explained saysaywhat[01:54:01] <Ramattack> :) ok[01:54:18] *** xpoint has quit IRC[01:57:57] <vecsig> well i guess the prob is that always_bcc happens before alias expansion only. so it's something that is close to a solution, however i cannot use it[02:08:03] *** Ramattack has quit IRC[02:08:16] *** Ramattack has joined #postfix[02:09:44] <saysaywhat> ok[02:09:48] *** saysaywhat has left #postfix[02:15:56] *** hark has quit IRC[02:21:31] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[02:23:00] *** bimbomio has quit IRC[02:25:02] *** dusty_ has joined #postfix[02:27:00] *** Juspion has quit IRC[02:41:19] *** dusty__ has quit IRC[02:42:01] *** jeev has joined #postfix[02:42:40] *** Tykling has left #postfix[03:12:24] *** Ryushin has quit IRC[03:13:22] *** Juspion has joined #postfix[03:20:18] *** magyar has quit IRC[03:20:39] *** _Driver_ has quit IRC[03:25:15] *** Iron_Blood has joined #postfix[03:26:22] *** Iron_Blood has left #postfix[03:38:10] *** vecsig has left #postfix[03:38:59] *** Ramattack has quit IRC[03:43:31] *** keffff has joined #postfix[03:43:39] *** keffer has quit IRC[03:44:48] *** higuita has joined #postfix[03:49:37] *** keffff has quit IRC[03:49:38] *** _numbers_ has quit IRC[03:49:51] *** keffer has joined #postfix[03:58:10] *** mavrick61 has quit IRC[03:59:16] *** mavrick61 has joined #postfix[04:01:58] *** Lethargik has joined #postfix[04:02:56] <Lethargik> anyone know where i might find some info on configuring postfix to have smtp users to authenticate before sending?[04:04:10] *** saurabhb has joined #postfix[04:06:25] <seekwill> Lethargik: Google "pop before smtp"[04:06:59] <Lethargik> ok, thanks man[04:07:20] <seekwill> I don't know how, other than it's called "pop before smtp"[04:07:27] <seekwill> Oh wait[04:07:48] <seekwill> You mean SASL authentication, or POP before SMTP authentication?[04:08:56] *** pirho has quit IRC[04:09:02] <Lethargik> well, I am using SASL authentication for the pop3 server which is courier. I'm not really sure what I need to use[04:09:19] <shasta> !sasl[04:09:22] <knoba> shasta: "sasl" : SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.[04:09:32] <shasta> Lethargik, ^^^[04:10:02] <Lethargik> ahhh[04:10:11] <Lethargik> so I should use Dovecot instead[04:10:18] <shasta> no[04:10:24] <shasta> ie. not necessarily[04:12:55] *** Internat has quit IRC[04:13:57] *** Juspion has quit IRC[04:14:26] *** Internat has joined #postfix[04:22:23] *** saurabhb has quit IRC[04:30:21] *** dogmeat has quit IRC[04:33:18] *** tshine has left #postfix[04:33:47] *** pickcoder has joined #postfix[04:35:33] *** dogmeat has joined #postfix[04:35:38] <hparker> figures... mail server tosses a drive on Sunday evening[04:39:43] *** Motoko-chan has joined #postfix[04:42:31] *** Haris1 has quit IRC[04:47:28] <pickcoder> \o/ for MTBF[04:50:35] *** _bugz_ has quit IRC[04:52:07] *** Iron_Blood has joined #postfix[04:53:23] <Iron_Blood> Aug 17 21:52:28 tieme2 postfix/smtpd[22258]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from mail01.ikarisuper.co.jp[219.122.47.218]: 554 5.7.1 <thirteenthsep9 at **** dot com>: Relay access denied; from=<> to=<thirteenthsep9 at **** dot com> proto=SMTP helo=<MAIL01>[04:53:23] <Iron_Blood> Aug 17 21:52:28 tieme2 postfix/smtpd[22258]: disconnect from mail01.ikarisuper.co.jp[219.122.47.218][04:53:36] <Iron_Blood> why is this rejecting all the mail?[04:53:38] *** boink__ has joined #postfix[04:57:01] <Iron_Blood> message me if you can help[04:58:14] <rob0> !relay_denied[04:58:15] <knoba> rob0: "relay_denied" : \"554 5.7.1 <RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN>: Relay access denied; from=<SENDER_ADDRESS> to=<RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN> proto=ESMTP helo=<HELO>\": This typically means that CLIENT_IP is not in mynetworks (and did not AUTH), and that RCPT_DOMAIN was not recognized as one of this Postfix's domains (not listed in mydestination, relay_domains or virtual_*_domains).[04:58:31] <rob0> /msg means you get an invoice[05:05:15] *** Haris1 has joined #postfix[05:05:57] *** raz has quit IRC[05:05:57] *** boink__ is now known as raz[05:13:06] *** Iron_Blood has quit IRC[05:24:53] *** goldfisc1li has joined #postfix[05:41:51] *** goldfischli has quit IRC[05:44:34] *** pickcoder has quit IRC[05:45:07] *** m1n3s6 has joined #postfix[05:52:03] *** PhilKC has joined #Postfix[06:23:27] *** saurabhb has joined #postfix[07:01:53] *** hparker has quit IRC[07:19:34] *** noodl has left #postfix[07:21:50] *** VaNNi has joined #postfix[07:23:53] *** madrescher has joined #postfix[07:43:45] *** bhagat has joined #postfix[07:51:44] *** Marticus has quit IRC[07:51:47] *** Marticus has joined #postfix[07:59:44] *** Zeit|awy_ has joined #postfix[08:05:52] *** Zeit|awy has quit IRC[08:13:56] *** shinao1_ has joined #postfix[08:16:16] *** j_s has joined #postfix[08:17:29] *** f3ew has joined #postfix[08:28:43] *** foxbuntu has joined #postfix[08:41:16] *** F6F has joined #postfix[08:44:25] *** shinao1_ has quit IRC[08:44:34] *** shinao1_ has joined #postfix[08:59:53] *** seekwill has quit IRC[09:01:57] <foxbuntu> hey everyone, I am having authentication issues with smtpd and sasl on my postfix config, this is the common line in the log: SASL PLAIN authentication failed: authentication failure[09:02:37] <f3ew> foxbuntu, what's the warning before that?[09:03:08] *** sophokles has joined #postfix[09:04:09] <foxbuntu> !pastebin[09:04:09] <knoba> foxbuntu: "pastebin" : a way to paste larger amounts of text so that other people can read it. Try http://www.rafb.net/paste/ or http://paste.debian.net/ - Do not forget to tell us the URL where you pasted it.[09:04:39] <foxbuntu> f3ew, http://paste.debian.net/15003/[09:04:40] *** hparker has joined #postfix[09:05:46] <foxbuntu> f3ew, the tls is known working and password correct as IMAP works fine[09:05:54] *** Motoko-chan has quit IRC[09:06:23] *** internat1 has joined #postfix[09:06:36] *** Internat has quit IRC[09:07:50] <f3ew> what's your smtod.conf say?[09:07:53] <f3ew> smtpd.conf*[09:09:01] <foxbuntu> f3ew, http://paste.debian.net/15004/[09:09:57] <f3ew> Posfix can connect to saslauthd?[09:10:07] <f3ew> !chroot[09:10:07] <knoba> f3ew: "chroot" : The fifth column in master.cf, if not n , means that the Postfix process described on that line runs in a chroot, see !debug , !queue_directory and files in the examples/chroot-setup subdirectory of the Postfix source archive which show examples of a Postfix chroot environment on a variety of systems[09:10:12] <f3ew> that might be an issue[09:10:30] <foxbuntu> f3ew, ok let me look[09:12:08] *** mark-use has joined #postfix[09:13:00] <foxbuntu> f3ew, so should it be in chroot or no?[09:13:15] <f3ew> Pull it out[09:13:48] <foxbuntu> pull what out? smtp? or sasl? or both?[09:15:14] <f3ew> smtpd[09:15:20] <foxbuntu> k[09:17:38] <foxbuntu> same error[09:18:28] <f3ew> Is saslauthd running?[09:18:41] <f3ew> There should be a warning associated with that error[09:19:00] <foxbuntu> i see this one: SASL authentication failure: cannot connect to saslauthd server: No such file or directory[09:19:09] <f3ew> turn mysql querylogging on and see if saslauthd can successfully run the query?[09:19:13] <f3ew> aha[09:19:27] <f3ew> That's either a chroot, a permissions issue on the path to the socket[09:19:34] <foxbuntu> ok[09:19:35] <f3ew> or saslauthd is not running[09:19:41] <f3ew> check permissions?[09:20:42] *** CosMiC_Touch has joined #postfix[09:20:49] <CosMiC_Touch> Hi @ all[09:21:12] <foxbuntu> f3ew, well the postfix user is in the sasl group[09:21:24] <CosMiC_Touch> Is here anyone who would be so kind helping me getting Majordomo work with postfix ?[09:21:24] <foxbuntu> I will verify saslauthd is running[09:22:34] <foxbuntu> f3ew, -- mechanisms on localhost --[09:22:34] <foxbuntu> 250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN[09:22:34] <foxbuntu> 250-AUTH=PLAIN LOGIN[09:22:48] <foxbuntu> from saslfinger -s[09:22:52] <f3ew> foxbuntu, that's shown by postfix[09:22:58] <foxbuntu> oh[09:26:12] <foxbuntu> f3ew, this is stupid, but what is the best way to check if its actually running ( the restart does not present any errors )[09:26:40] <f3ew> ps[09:26:46] <foxbuntu> oh right[09:27:15] <f3ew> I recommend opening up permissions to all to connect to the saslauthd socket[09:28:10] <foxbuntu> f3ew, http://paste.debian.net/15005/[09:28:16] <foxbuntu> f3ew, ok how do I do that?[09:30:48] <f3ew> foxbuntu, chmod 755 the directories[09:31:06] <foxbuntu> for sasl?[09:31:18] <foxbuntu> hmm[09:35:33] *** majikman has quit IRC[09:43:04] <foxbuntu> f3ew, I dont know if this is part of the issue or not, but:[09:43:05] <foxbuntu> ls -l /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd/[09:43:05] <foxbuntu> total 4[09:43:05] <foxbuntu> srwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 2008-08-18 02:27 mux[09:43:42] *** Pazzo has joined #postfix[09:44:01] <foxbuntu> f3ew, should those be owned by the postfix user? or sasl group?[09:44:45] <f3ew> foxbuntu, your saslauthd socket is inside the chroot?[09:44:56] *** pitakill has quit IRC[09:44:57] <foxbuntu> ?[09:45:02] <foxbuntu> f3ew, idk[09:48:04] *** shinao1_ has quit IRC[09:49:42] *** naoshige has joined #postfix[09:49:46] <naoshige> hello[09:50:00] <naoshige> where better to ask such a question - why does gmail classify mails coming from my server as spam?[09:50:20] <naoshige> cbl blacklisted my ip a while back due to some viruses making me part of some botnet but those days are gone![09:51:03] <naoshige> i went to http://cbl.abuseat.org, requested my ip to be removed and it got removed[09:51:07] <Trengo> naoshige robtex.com/rbl check your IP[09:51:10] <foxbuntu> naoshige, it might be related to your ISP, although this is not a good forum for the discussion[09:51:40] <naoshige> but my country has one of the lowest spamrates in the world[09:52:44] <naoshige> Trengo: nice..[09:53:10] <Trengo> naoshige which country is that?[09:53:41] <foxbuntu> f3ew, thanks for the help so far...I cant work on this anymore tonight...[09:53:44] <naoshige> norway[09:54:07] <Trengo> naoshige cool![09:54:07] <naoshige> though my isp did recently have trouble with some chinese hackers using their servers to do their spamming[09:54:15] *** foxbuntu has quit IRC[09:55:16] <naoshige> well im not listed in any of those servers[09:55:25] <naoshige> are there any other reasons why gmail'd classify me as spam?[09:55:42] *** _bugz_ has joined #postfix[09:56:45] * f3ew is trying to recover data from a dying disk[09:56:51] <naoshige> here we go http://pastie.org/254804 main.cf[09:56:56] <naoshige> f3ew: good luck mate ;)[09:57:22] <Trengo> f3ew dying or dead? :)[09:58:15] *** rootsvr has joined #postfix[09:58:44] <f3ew> dying[09:59:05] *** war9407 has joined #postfix[09:59:31] <naoshige> war9407: liquid's words? who's liquid?[09:59:37] <CosMiC_Touch> does anyone in here use majordomo ?[10:02:44] *** bhagat has quit IRC[10:04:09] *** Shamgar_ has joined #postfix[10:09:12] *** shinao1_ has joined #postfix[10:09:32] *** Shamgar has quit IRC[10:10:40] *** cilly has quit IRC[10:12:55] *** _bt has quit IRC[10:13:25] *** _bt has joined #postfix[10:17:36] <hooch> is it possible to configure postfix to hold mail internally if the spool file is inaccessible?[10:22:30] <naoshige> thanks guys[10:22:31] *** naoshige has left #postfix[10:24:39] <f3ew> soft_bounce = yes[10:25:00] *** brancaleone has joined #postfix[10:28:04] *** adaptr has quit IRC[10:28:15] *** adaptr has joined #postfix[10:28:41] *** j__s has joined #postfix[10:31:36] *** j_s has quit IRC[10:39:39] *** aron is now known as Aron[10:40:44] *** jpalmer has joined #postfix[10:42:02] *** kazer_ has joined #postfix[10:42:18] <kazer_> hi there[10:45:11] <vice-versa> lo[10:47:38] *** xnixan has joined #postfix[10:49:54] *** cilly has joined #postfix[10:55:42] *** Tykling has joined #postfix[11:06:22] *** Internat has joined #postfix[11:06:47] <hooch> f3ew: is that the only option there is, you think?[11:07:03] <f3ew> yes[11:08:05] *** internat1 has quit IRC[11:08:33] <hooch> thanks for that f3ew[11:11:04] *** rootsvr has quit IRC[11:22:03] *** shinao1_ has quit IRC[11:22:05] *** bhagat has joined #postfix[11:39:09] *** Vivek has quit IRC[11:59:57] *** bimbomio has joined #postfix[12:00:57] *** jelly has joined #postfix[12:05:06] *** decoder has joined #postfix[12:05:42] <decoder> hello folks =) I'm planing an upgrade from postfix 2.3.x to 2.5.x and wanted to know if there is any special docu covering this step (possible caveats etc)[12:06:37] <dragonheart> the postfix release notes are very comprehensive with regard to upgrading and incompatible changes[12:08:03] <decoder> ah ok thanks :)[12:15:07] *** madrescher has quit IRC[12:17:06] *** xpoint has joined #postfix[12:26:27] *** f3ew has quit IRC[12:27:28] <Haris1> Hello guys[12:27:44] <Haris1> I have passwords put in mysql db in 2 columns, 1) crypt 2) salt[12:27:49] <Haris1> can I use them for smtp auth?[12:27:57] <Haris1> salt = 1/2 part of crypt[12:28:00] *** devdas has joined #postfix[12:28:05] <Haris1> password = crypt * salt[12:52:51] *** popoulouS has joined #postfix[12:52:57] <popoulouS> Hi[12:53:48] <philip_> wow. i have a graph.[12:54:05] <philip_> but with the wrong unit on the y axis[12:54:09] <philip_> how can i fix that?[12:54:22] <popoulouS> I'm trying to migrate a server from sendmail. In sendmail the file virtusertable you can define how access users to domain , example -> @domain1 %1.domain1. what is the equivalent in postfix?? , I try with a regexp but don't works fine (regexp -> /^(.*) at domain dot com/ $1.domain)[12:58:39] *** cpm has joined #postfix[13:02:17] *** Fallenou has joined #postfix[13:11:29] *** bimbomio has quit IRC[13:17:58] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[13:26:40] *** cableroy has joined #postfix[13:27:40] <cableroy> hi, anyone got suggestions for a program/script, i want to monitor each host sending mail, i want info on how many mails sendt, and to witch address[13:37:17] *** blackflag has quit IRC[13:41:53] *** blackflag has joined #postfix[13:43:43] *** PcPixel has joined #postfix[13:43:55] <PcPixel> good morning! :)[13:45:29] <devdas> cableroy, pflogsumm[13:45:34] <devdas> !pflogsumm[13:45:34] <knoba> devdas: "pflogsumm" : a perl script to analyse your mail log file and generate nice reports. See: http://jimsun.linxnet.com/postfix_contrib.html[13:45:55] <PcPixel> pflogsumm is awesome[13:46:48] *** m1n3s6 has quit IRC[13:48:18] <PcPixel> i used postfix-logwatch before[13:48:27] <PcPixel> that one is ok, but i think its accuracy is off.[13:49:01] <PcPixel> i keep both handy though.[13:50:25] *** lunaphyte has quit IRC[13:50:52] <cableroy> okey, thanks i'll take a look at that![13:50:55] *** lunaphyte has joined #postfix[13:51:18] *** mark-use has quit IRC[13:52:33] <jgreig> hi guys, any ideas how I can reject an orig-to address?[13:52:49] <jgreig> either by using access maps or header checks[13:53:25] <devdas> check_sender_access[13:54:09] <hparker> yay, send mail to yahoo from a new IP and get a temp fail[13:54:20] *** st_iron has joined #postfix[13:54:32] <st_iron> hello[13:54:34] <kazer_> can anyone help with a relay access denied? i'm using postfix + virtual domains[13:56:04] *** Broken|work__ has joined #postfix[13:56:05] <st_iron> I recieved an interesting spam today... it comes from my mail address but not from my server[13:56:27] <st_iron> can I fight with it in postfix?[13:56:34] *** CyberCr33p has joined #postfix[13:56:59] <st_iron> btw kazer_, what is the problem?[13:58:06] <PcPixel> st_iron yes[13:58:09] <PcPixel> st_iron: im doing that now[13:58:30] <kazer_> st_iron, http://pastebin.com/m1092efb9[13:59:06] <CyberCr33p> is it possible to use header_checks for only 1 e-mail and the checks don't apply to other e-mails?[13:59:11] <PcPixel> st_iron: when you say it comes from your mail address, are you saying it claimed to be from one of your domains, or were they pretending to be your mail server[13:59:58] <st_iron> kazer_: paste your main.cf file too[14:00:20] <st_iron> PcPixel: yes, it comes from my domain what points to my machine[14:00:31] <st_iron> but the sender adress is a PL address[14:00:37] <PcPixel> PL?[14:00:42] <st_iron> from poland[14:00:45] <PcPixel> oh[14:00:46] <PcPixel> lol[14:00:47] <PcPixel> ok yes[14:00:50] <PcPixel> you can fight it[14:00:55] <PcPixel> one second while i find what you need[14:01:07] <st_iron> it's a debian sarge server... very old[14:01:09] <PcPixel> cause im defending against that myself. its a very simple fix[14:01:09] <st_iron> thanks[14:02:00] <PcPixel> aha[14:02:01] <PcPixel> found it[14:02:03] <PcPixel> ok one sec[14:02:07] <st_iron> k[14:02:52] <kazer_> st_iron, thanks. here it is : http://pastebin.com/m18dee7f0[14:03:51] <st_iron> kazer_: put the 127.0.0.0/8 into your "mynetworks"[14:03:55] <st_iron> like this:[14:03:55] <PcPixel> st_iron: this is what you need: http://pastebin.com/d8806104[14:04:06] <popoulouS> I'm trying to migrate a server from sendmail. In sendmail the file virtusertable you can define how access users to domain , example -> @domain1 %1.domain1. what is the equivalent in postfix?? , I try with a regexp but don't works fine (regexp -> /^(.*) at domain dot com/ $1.domain)[14:04:29] <devdas> !virtual_alias_maps[14:04:29] <knoba> devdas: "virtual_alias_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup tables that alias specific mail addresses or domains to other local or remote address. The table format and lookups are documented in virtual(5).[14:04:38] <devdas> regexp's won't work[14:04:46] <devdas> See regexp_table[14:04:53] <PcPixel> st_iron: put the check after permit_mynetworks and that'll prevent anyone from"pretending" to be you[14:05:19] <PcPixel> st_iron: jus tbe sure you fill in the proper info :P[14:05:33] *** st_iron` has joined #postfix[14:05:41] <devdas> Ah, you can use regexps[14:05:47] <st_iron`> back, sorry... hungarian telecom[14:05:55] <PcPixel> st_iron: np. did you get it?[14:06:02] <popoulouS> thx[14:06:09] <devdas> So /^(.*) at example dot com$/ $1 at example dot net[14:06:17] <st_iron`> PcPixel: no[14:06:27] <PcPixel> st_iron`: use this: http://pastebin.com/d8806104[14:06:35] <devdas> popoulouS, see that[14:06:37] <st_iron`> thanks[14:06:43] <PcPixel> put the check_helo_access after permit_mynetworks[14:06:51] <PcPixel> and then make the "helo_checks" file as shown[14:07:01] <PcPixel> that will "stop" outside systems from pretending to be your mail server[14:07:21] <PcPixel> i also have a check that wont let outside senders claim to send mail from me either[14:07:25] <kazer_> st_iron, wow.. i've been fighting with that for a few hours.. thank you![14:07:36] <st_iron`> kazer_: np[14:07:46] <st_iron`> PcPixel: very thanks[14:07:54] <PcPixel> st_iron`: no problem :)[14:07:59] <popoulouS> devdas Mmmm, but don't validate. See the log -> Aug 18 21:51:53 saturno2 postfix/local[23680]: 873881038463: to=<diegop.sbd.sbd.sbd.sbd (infinite).[14:08:11] <PcPixel> i used to see it a lot on my system. but once i put the check in place, most people took the hint :P[14:08:30] <popoulouS> devdas /^(.*) at subdomain dot domain.com/ $1.sbd this is my regexp[14:08:45] <CosMiC_Touch> virtual_alias_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_alias_maps.cf, hash:/etc/postfix/majordomo_virtual_aliases ... will this Syntax work in main.cf ?[14:08:57] *** lunaphyte_ has quit IRC[14:09:32] <devdas> popoulouS, $1.sbd becomes $1.sbd@$myorigin[14:09:43] <devdas> which probably matches your regexp again[14:10:00] <devdas> CosMiC_Touch, yes[14:10:02] *** lunaphyte_ has joined #postfix[14:10:23] <popoulouS> ok ok :)[14:10:48] <st_iron`> PcPixel: if my hostname is ainf.hu then /^ainf\.hu$/ 550 Don't use my hostname ?[14:11:05] <PcPixel> st_iron: yup[14:11:05] <CyberCr33p> is it possible to use header_checks for only 1 e-mail and the checks don't apply to other e-mails?[14:11:09] <st_iron`> thanks[14:11:17] <PcPixel> thats your full hostname?[14:11:37] <devdas> CyberCr33p, not trivially[14:11:50] <PcPixel> st_iron: that looks more like just a domain[14:14:55] <PcPixel> st_iron`: still with me?[14:15:06] <st_iron`> PcPixel: yes[14:15:16] *** cilly has quit IRC[14:15:20] <st_iron`> I have a lot of virtual hosts[14:15:24] <PcPixel> st_iron`: ois that your mail servers full hostname?[14:15:35] <PcPixel> st_iron`: or just the domain you accept/rely for[14:15:36] <st_iron`> but one of it get a lot of spam from my own domain name[14:15:46] <PcPixel> st_iron`: ok thats a different check[14:15:47] <popoulouS> devdas I see myorigin parameter and = $mydomain that is a fqdn with dns entry mx. I don't understand why repeat my regexp. any idea?[14:15:49] <st_iron`> the hostname is ainf.hu[14:15:59] <PcPixel> st_iron`: the check I gave you prevents other mail servers from connecting AS you[14:16:11] <st_iron`> ah[14:16:19] *** barnie has quit IRC[14:16:21] <PcPixel> st_iron`: use a check_sender_access after permit_mynetworks to reject all mail comfing from a domail you have[14:16:32] <PcPixel> domain[14:16:39] <devdas> popoulouS, Postfix always uses fully qualified email addresses[14:16:56] <st_iron`> PcPixel: how is it?[14:17:03] <devdas> so your substitution gives you only a local part, which then has $myorigin appended[14:17:09] <PcPixel> st_iron`: one sec, I'll pastebin it[14:17:22] *** barnie has joined #postfix[14:17:26] *** rootsvr has joined #postfix[14:17:26] <st_iron`> PcPixel: thx[14:18:31] <PcPixel> st_iron`: http://pastebin.com/d15a33510[14:18:41] <PcPixel> place the check_sender_access line AFTER permit_mynetworks[14:18:47] <CyberCr33p> does someone has a good header_checks to share/[14:18:51] <PcPixel> and then the contents of the file are all the domains you accept/relay for[14:18:57] <devdas> !cheatsheet[14:18:57] <knoba> devdas: "cheatsheet" : http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt : A HOWTO for pre-DATA spam control.[14:19:07] *** dusty_ has quit IRC[14:19:13] <PcPixel> st_iron`: since they didnt come from your network, they cant have come from the outside qorld.[14:20:02] <PcPixel> st_iron`: i relay for 7 domains, so I actually include the domain I rejected in my error message so I can see which ones are getting hit bad[14:20:03] *** bhagat has quit IRC[14:20:05] *** st_iron has quit IRC[14:20:13] *** dusty_ has joined #postfix[14:21:37] <st_iron`> PcPixel: http://pastebin.com/m23188c7b[14:21:39] <st_iron`> is it good?[14:22:06] <PcPixel> st_iron`: its decent[14:22:23] <PcPixel> st_iron`: it really depends on how much mail you process and how much spam youre beting hit by[14:22:34] <st_iron`> thanks[14:22:41] <PcPixel> st_iron`: there are a few more I would add[14:23:50] <PcPixel> st_iron`: http://pastebin.com/d79047a59 this is the start of mine[14:24:10] <PcPixel> st_iron`: i would at least add the "reject_" ones im using[14:24:26] <PcPixel> the "check_" stuff is optional[14:25:00] <st_iron`> thank you![14:25:06] <PcPixel> st_iron`: the HELO one should catcha LOT[14:25:13] <PcPixel> st_iron`: youre welcome :)[14:25:27] <PcPixel> theres a lot more you can do, but its all about balance.[14:25:32] <PcPixel> and what you have available fore resources[14:25:33] <st_iron`> I'm overwriting :)[14:25:42] <st_iron`> just a minute[14:25:45] <PcPixel> sure.[14:25:59] *** JoeWulf has quit IRC[14:28:40] *** McJerry has joined #postfix[14:28:43] *** tshine has joined #postfix[14:31:12] <PcPixel> st_iron`: got it working?[14:31:29] <st_iron`> still not[14:31:46] <st_iron`> fatal: /etc/postfix/main.cf, line 44: missing '=' after attribute name: "reject_non_fqdn_recipient,"[14:32:04] <devdas> add whitespace before reject[14:33:06] <st_iron`> ah thanks[14:33:08] <st_iron`> it works[14:35:47] <PcPixel> st_iron`: good :)[14:36:48] <PcPixel> st_iron`: that should be a good start for you for the momeny.[14:36:50] <PcPixel> moment.[14:37:49] <st_iron`> yes, it's great[14:37:59] *** JoeWulf has joined #postfix[14:39:22] *** Fallenou has quit IRC[14:44:16] *** cilly has joined #postfix[14:50:54] *** McJerry has quit IRC[14:52:05] *** Fallenou has joined #postfix[14:55:41] *** saurabhb has quit IRC[15:01:23] *** _ruben has quit IRC[15:01:41] *** Broken|work_ has joined #postfix[15:03:31] <PcPixel> st_iron`: let me know if you need anything else :)[15:03:53] <sysmonk> PcPixel: i need money[15:03:54] *** Kako has joined #postfix[15:04:07] <PcPixel> sysmonk: is yur name st_iron`?[15:04:08] <PcPixel> ;P[15:04:09] <devdas> sysmonk, funny[15:04:11] <devdas> so do I[15:04:19] <devdas> PcPixel, if you are paying, yes[15:04:20] <sysmonk> PcPixel: i can change my nick fast ;)[15:04:28] <sysmonk> devdas: heh, we'll split[15:05:00] <sysmonk> devdas: ghm, devdas=f3ew ?[15:05:19] <devdas> yes[15:05:21] * sysmonk can't get used to it ;/[15:05:42] <devdas> this is the personal laptop[15:05:51] <sysmonk> oh.[15:05:52] <devdas> total used free shared buffers cached[15:05:53] <devdas> Mem: 3968 3024 944 0 196 2080[15:05:53] <devdas> Swap: 0 0 0[15:06:14] <sysmonk> heh[15:06:20] <sysmonk> i just have a personal server, and i use irssi[15:06:28] <sysmonk> so it doesn't matter where i connect from[15:07:22] <devdas> Oh, it's more of a work|personal persona split[15:07:48] <sysmonk> you're not at work right now?[15:08:08] * jelly waves at jelly-home[15:08:42] <jelly> ... much easier to follow who's who[15:09:02] * sysmonk clones himself and creates sysmonk-work sysmonk-home sysmonk-bar sysmonk-toilet sysmonk-drunk sysmonk-other-home sysmonk-abroad...[15:09:19] <devdas> lol[15:09:25] <devdas> Physically, yes[15:09:27] <PcPixel> ooh! ooh![15:09:28] <devdas> logically, no[15:09:31] * PcPixel chooses drunk[15:09:33] * cpm thinks sysmonk suffers from work|persona dichotomy barrier issues[15:09:40] <sysmonk> fork()![15:09:49] <sysmonk> cpm: i'm on vacation ;P[15:09:52] <sysmonk> 2 weeks[15:09:59] <devdas> Nope, do not want to fork()[15:10:03] <cpm> funny, which fork is on vacation?[15:10:06] <devdas> Child processes are expensive[15:10:10] <PcPixel> spoon()![15:10:14] <sysmonk> cpm: pid==0[15:10:15] <cpm> spork()[15:10:21] <cpm> sysmonk, nice. Where?[15:10:25] <sysmonk> cpm: home :)[15:10:27] <devdas> There is no spoon()![15:10:36] <sysmonk> this time i'm not going anywhere[15:10:44] <cpm> sysmonk, drinking to oblivion?[15:10:45] <sysmonk> have to fix some personal stuff[15:10:53] <PcPixel> so does spork()! produce foster kids?[15:10:54] <jelly> No manual entry for spoon in section 2[15:10:55] <sysmonk> cpm: not yet, but maybe... :)[15:11:28] <cpm> jelly, like devdas said, there is not spoon()[15:11:30] <sysmonk> i have to fix some personal stuff, but i'll still have lots of free time, so beer will be used[15:11:34] <cpm> s/not/no[15:11:37] *** st_iron` has quit IRC[15:11:43] <cpm> sysmonk, good. Just don't drink and drill[15:11:48] <sysmonk> also maybe i'll start/finish some of my projects[15:11:52] <PcPixel> welfare.c - spawns a bunch of illegitimate child processes to gain more system resources[15:11:56] *** st_iron` has joined #postfix[15:12:01] <jelly> cpm: there is only /proc/self[15:12:12] <sysmonk> st_iron`: say 'PcPixel: yes, i need money'[15:12:22] <sysmonk> jelly: false![15:12:33] <sysmonk> there is no /proc![15:12:39] * sysmonk hides his BSD t-shirt[15:15:21] <jelly> sysmonk: my svr4 descended UNIX(R)(tm)(sp?) has it[15:17:32] <sysmonk> jelly: and svr4 has /proc/self ?[15:17:38] <sysmonk> i thought /proc/self is a linux stuff[15:17:51] <sysmonk> afaik in unix it was /proc/curproc or something like that[15:17:57] <jelly> sysmonk: it doesn't :-)[15:18:06] <sysmonk> jelly: fail! :)[15:18:16] <jelly> /o\[15:18:43] <jelly> you shouldn't have noticed[15:20:32] *** Broken|work__ has quit IRC[15:31:34] *** _ruben has joined #postfix[15:33:02] *** poison3r_ has joined #postfix[15:33:15] *** dex has joined #postfix[15:33:15] <poison3r_> is postfix support multi-line subject e-mails?[15:33:35] <dex> can anyone point me to a resource where they list all email headers and their definitions?[15:34:34] <sysmonk> dex: _all_ email headers? o_o[15:34:42] <sysmonk> that's kinda... much :)[15:34:46] <sysmonk> there are lots of custom headers[15:34:54] <sysmonk> but you can look at the 'default' headers in rfc[15:34:55] <sysmonk> !smtp[15:34:56] <knoba> sysmonk: Error: "smtp" is not a valid command.[15:34:57] <sysmonk> er[15:34:59] <sysmonk> !rfc[15:35:01] <knoba> sysmonk: Error: "rfc" is not a valid command.[15:35:03] <sysmonk> doh[15:35:16] <sysmonk> www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc0821.txt[15:36:20] <CosMiC_Touch> thx devdas[15:36:43] *** kimus has joined #postfix[15:39:20] <kimus> hi, I'm getting this error: warning: SASL authentication failure: cannot connect to saslauthd server: Permission denied[15:39:35] *** _ruben has quit IRC[15:39:51] <kimus> when trying to SMTP. POP works fine, and I can receive emails[15:41:51] *** _ruben has joined #postfix[15:43:51] *** alienbrain has joined #postfix[15:44:11] <Broken|work_> alienbrain: get out of here :D[15:45:40] <alienbrain> Broken|work_: Hi dude :P[15:47:10] *** _Driver_ has joined #postfix[15:47:15] <devdas> poison3r_, yes[15:50:06] <alienbrain> Broken|work_: What it's you are hacking on inside postfix?[15:51:00] <Broken|work_> guys, quick question , Do I need to do something to enable epoll() support in postfix or is it enabled by default[15:51:11] <Broken|work_> alienbrain: high volume mail gateway[15:51:15] <Broken|work_> ?[15:51:25] *** bimbomio has joined #postfix[15:54:03] *** _Driver_ has quit IRC[15:54:21] <kimus> I'm getting this error: warning: SASL authentication failure: cannot connect to saslauthd server:[15:54:26] *** _Driver_ has joined #postfix[15:55:11] *** _Driver_ has quit IRC[15:56:10] *** _Driver_ has joined #postfix[16:00:33] <Broken|work_> kimus: what do you have in OPTIONS= in the /etc/default/saslauthd file[16:01:32] *** st_iron` has quit IRC[16:01:51] *** st_iron` has joined #postfix[16:02:05] *** st_iron` has quit IRC[16:02:24] <kimus> Broken|work_: OPTIONS="-c -m /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd -r"[16:05:21] <Broken|work_> kimus: what does it say after that, in the error message , file not found or permission denied ?[16:05:58] *** car_watt has joined #postfix[16:06:00] <kimus> Broken|work_: Permission denied[16:06:24] <Broken|work_> ok, what is the output of "id postfix" ?[16:07:17] <Broken|work_> kimus: ^^[16:07:57] <kimus> Broken|work_: uid=105(postfix) gid=108(postfix) groups=108(postfix)[16:08:13] *** seekwill has joined #postfix[16:08:41] <Broken|work_> kimus: ok, do "adduser postfix sasl" and try[16:09:25] <kimus> Broken|work_: adduser ?[16:09:50] <kimus> useradd ?[16:10:05] *** gcleric has joined #postfix[16:10:18] <kimus> Broken|work_: what you want me to do? add a new user named sasl ?[16:10:34] *** gcleric has left #postfix[16:10:49] <Broken|work_> kimus: yes, /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd is owned by root:sasl , in order to allow postfix user to the sasl group so that it can access it[16:11:09] <Broken|work_> kimus: no, this would add the user postfix to the group sasl[16:11:13] <kimus> Broken|work_: group[16:11:35] <kimus> Broken|work_: i dont have that command. just checking :-p[16:11:39] <sysmonk> kimus: can't you see his broken? :)[16:11:46] <Broken|work_> lol[16:12:02] <Broken|work_> sorry, multitasking here :P[16:13:26] <kimus> Broken|work_: I add the user postfix to sasl group editing /etc/group ... :-p[16:13:58] <Broken|work_> /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd is owned by root:sasl , in order to allow postfix user to access it , you need to add the user postfix to the sasl group (ok, that looks better)[16:14:40] <kimus> Broken|work_: yes... I think it's ok :-D[16:15:15] <Broken|work_> kimus: whatever works :P[16:15:51] <kimus> Broken|work_: ok... it's done now. shame on me. didn't tought about permissions :-S[16:16:40] <Broken|work_> kimus: http://www.jimmy.co.at/weblog/?p=52 <<< this helped me[16:17:01] *** Seamus has quit IRC[16:17:33] <kimus> Broken|work_: ok... I was there but I did not do the alias and other stuff... but ok thanx[16:18:02] <Broken|work_> kimus: you're welcome[16:19:21] <kimus> is there a way to disable 'normal' smtp and only enable tls/ssl smpt ?[16:19:58] <kimus> Broken|work_: ^^? :-)[16:20:33] <kimus> for the pop I just stoped the service[16:20:51] <Broken|work_> kimus: I don't know about that[16:21:35] <kimus> Broken|work_: maybe it's stupid. how can other servers send emails to this server if only ssl is enabled? :-D[16:22:34] <e_> it could be an all-internal mail server only certain mailers should send email to[16:23:31] <kimus> e_: yes... but I don't want that. just need to install spamassassin or something...[16:23:44] <kimus> thank you all[16:26:18] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[16:29:32] <Broken|work_> kimus: if you are going to run this in an internal system or an authenticated relay , it makes sense[16:35:23] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[16:35:28] <dex> sysmonk: thanks :)[16:35:45] <sysmonk> dex: em, for what?[16:35:53] <sysmonk> ah, for smtp rfc[16:35:54] <sysmonk> ;)[16:35:55] <dex> sysmonk: for the link :)[16:36:06] <sysmonk> dex: that one is old, but a good start[16:36:14] <dex> sysmonk: ok[16:36:15] <sysmonk> there are newer rfc's for smtp thought, search around[16:36:24] <dex> sysmonk: alright[16:36:33] *** dex has left #postfix[16:37:26] <kimus> Broken|work_: now my email client is saying it cant connect to server: connection refused :-S[16:37:41] *** Seamus has joined #postfix[16:38:02] <Broken|work_> kimus: telnet to the server and test[16:38:30] <Seamus> I'm trying to use procmail as a postfix filter. However all the messages are sent to /var/mail. How can I make procmail send it to the user mailboxes?[16:40:31] <kimus> Broken|work_: that's what it's strange. telnet works[16:40:48] <kimus> i think[16:41:45] <kimus> yes... works[16:42:00] <kimus> but i'm using ssl conf on the client[16:42:10] <e_> ssl or tls?[16:42:57] <kimus> e_: tsl/ssl it's the same[16:43:02] <e_> no[16:43:10] <e_> ssl usually means smtps which is a dedicated port[16:43:19] <e_> tls usually refers to the smtp port and STARTTLS[16:43:33] <kimus> TLS uses SSL right?[16:43:40] <kimus> but ok it's TLS[16:44:15] <kimus> disabling ssl auth works... i'm sure it worked 5 min ago[16:44:38] <e_> make sure your client uses STARTTLS and if it cannot, make sure postfix binds to smtps with the tls_wrapper_mod[16:44:41] <e_> mode[16:45:26] <kimus> yes it's enabled[16:45:59] <kimus> if I put TLS in the client and check supported auth types it does popup the tls/ssl certificate[16:46:15] *** pitakill has quit IRC[16:46:41] <kimus> if I put SSL and check it does nothong because I've accepted before... doesnt give me an error... strange[16:47:23] <kimus> if smtp + ssl (smtps) is in expecific port then it should fail here...[16:47:46] *** pickcoder has joined #postfix[16:51:36] <kimus> whatever... if for a normal mail server i cant disable 'normal' smtp (force auth tls, ssl ) then it does not mater[16:51:58] <e_> ehm[16:53:20] <e_> make sure you read and understand http://www.postfix.org/TLS_README.html[16:53:21] *** _Driver_ has quit IRC[16:54:13] <kimus> I'll put this to check it out. smtpd_tls_auth_only = yes[16:58:37] *** _Driver_ has joined #postfix[17:01:16] <kimus> e_: I think I have what I wanted[17:01:36] <kimus> now the user *MUST* choose TLS to send emails[17:02:17] <kimus> no more plain text user and passwd passing trough the net[17:03:20] <e_> very well[17:05:08] <kimus> once again... thank you[17:05:17] <Seamus> anyone here want to offer some help with procmail filtering? procmail sends the mail to the spool in /var/mail and it never leaves[17:05:37] *** kimus has left #postfix[17:06:00] <Seamus> my mailbox command is #mailbox_command = /usr/bin/procmail -f- -a "$USER"[17:06:41] <Seamus> home_mailbox = .maildir/[17:06:48] *** jakesolid has joined #postfix[17:08:23] *** devdas has quit IRC[17:13:37] *** rootsvr has quit IRC[17:17:19] *** Vivek has joined #postfix[17:17:50] *** devdas has joined #postfix[17:20:05] *** jakesolid has left #postfix[17:23:13] *** linkslice has quit IRC[17:31:47] *** tshine has quit IRC[17:38:10] *** PcPixel has quit IRC[17:39:55] *** alienbrain has quit IRC[17:48:18] *** sahil has quit IRC[17:49:43] *** devdas has quit IRC[18:10:03] *** linkslice has joined #postfix[18:15:07] *** sophokles has quit IRC[18:15:26] *** trafim has joined #postfix[18:16:33] *** Aron is now known as aron[18:16:35] <trafim> hi guys. is that possible to set up two transports for one domain in postfix? i want all my mail to be handled by cyrus _and_ to be forwarded to some host.[18:17:14] <trafim> i googled a lot, but to no avail :([18:18:39] *** f3ew has joined #postfix[18:23:16] *** zykes- has quit IRC[18:26:27] <hparker> !always_bcc[18:26:28] <knoba> hparker: "always_bcc" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional address that receives a "blind carbon copy" of each message that is received by the Postfix mail system.[18:29:43] *** Help- has joined #postfix[18:29:52] <magyar_> hi, get this error message "loops back to myself" what could cause this error?[18:31:10] *** Kako has quit IRC[18:31:37] <f3ew> !loopback[18:31:38] <knoba> f3ew: "loopback" : 'Mail loops back to myself' means that your Postfix wanted to send out the mail to the internet but then discovered that the DNS says your mail server should be responsible. Most likely you forgot to list your domain in mydestination or virtual_(alias|mailbox)_domains[18:32:45] *** Help- has left #postfix[18:35:39] *** brancaleone has quit IRC[18:36:58] <trafim> hparker: thanks a lot[18:37:29] <hparker> yw[18:38:18] *** jwit has quit IRC[18:41:24] *** Bagualas has joined #postfix[18:42:18] <Bagualas> is possible an e-mail with cc takes 30 minutes of delay to deliver? Like the To: person recieves at 1:00pm and the CC person recieves at 1:30 PM[18:42:58] <f3ew> yes[18:43:04] *** jwit has joined #postfix[18:43:26] <hparker> email != IM[18:43:27] <Bagualas> f3ew, with is that? shouldnt be delivered at the same time?[18:43:49] <f3ew> Bagualas, not necessarily[18:43:50] <Bagualas> I mean about the To: and CC: of the e-mail[18:43:55] <jeev> Bagualas, there are many things to worry about in email..[18:43:59] <f3ew> mail routing, load on delivery servers ...[18:43:59] <jeev> if you dont know, then you shouldn't have a server.[18:44:16] <Bagualas> both users are in the same server[18:44:31] <jeev> that's a different story.[18:45:23] <Bagualas> I think you didnt understand me hehehe[18:45:49] <jeev> you didn't mention it when you got into the channel[18:45:57] <jeev> you didn't mention that it was a local email, delivery to same server..[18:46:11] <Bagualas> some people sent an e-mail to me and my coworker, we have the e-mail in the same server[18:46:20] <f3ew> Bagualas, over quota issues?[18:46:30] <Bagualas> I recieved at 1:00 pm and he at 1:30pm[18:46:33] <Bagualas> f3ew, no =/[18:46:53] <Bagualas> the e-mail come from outside[18:46:58] <jelly> Bagualas: the Received headers might provide an indication of where the delay was generated.[18:47:02] <Bagualas> (sorry about the real bad english)[18:47:21] <jelly> compare them[18:47:24] <Bagualas> hummmm[18:47:33] <Bagualas> will take a look on this[18:48:27] <Bagualas> any other ideia man?[18:48:44] <jeev> check the logs whne it happened[18:48:45] <jeev> try to reproduce it[18:48:58] *** jakehilton has joined #postfix[18:49:35] <Bagualas> thanks guys[18:49:37] <Bagualas> will take a look[18:49:53] <Bagualas> jeev, just dont be rude like before =)[18:50:03] <jeev> i wasn't rude dood.[18:50:10] <jeev> you jumped in and said it takes 30 minutes to deliver an email[18:50:13] <jelly> the mail was from outside. Unless Received points to the servers under his control being responsible, there's no need to try to reproduce.[18:50:14] <jeev> you never mentioned it was on the same server.[18:50:33] <Bagualas> jeev, missplaced info sry =([18:50:36] <jeev> i didn't see that he sent it from outside either[18:50:38] <jtsigma> si there a way to run always_bcc AFTER alias expansion instead of before?[18:50:40] <jeev> lol, maybe i haven't fully woken up[18:50:51] <jelly> [18:46] <Bagualas> the e-mail come from outside[18:51:00] *** trafim has left #postfix[18:51:16] <jeev> ok[18:51:17] <Bagualas> i didnt said in the first message[18:51:18] <Bagualas> sry for that[18:52:18] <jelly> if you pastebinned the headers and someone was REALLY bored, maybe they'd give a shot at analyzing them[18:52:26] <Bagualas> hehehehe[18:52:27] <jelly> not me tho :-)[18:52:32] <Bagualas> =)[18:52:45] <jakehilton> no flames please :) been trying to solve this issue for days now.. and the solution is eluding me.. I have an alias setup and when I send an email to it via commandline it works fine .. but of course when I try to send an email to it via an external email client like gmail.. I get relay access denied... I've tried playing with mynetworks in main.cf but no love.. anyone have some other ideas for me to try?[18:52:59] <jakehilton> thanks for any / all ideas[18:53:38] <hparker> jakehilton: pastebin postconf -n[18:53:42] <jakehilton> 1 sec[18:54:32] <jakehilton> http://pastebin.com/d75d71c3[18:54:33] <jakehilton> th[18:54:33] <jakehilton> xx[18:54:36] <jakehilton> thx :)[18:55:15] *** Niemi has joined #postfix[18:59:08] <hparker> !cheatsheet[18:59:09] <knoba> hparker: "cheatsheet" : http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt : A HOWTO for pre-DATA spam control.[18:59:13] <hparker> jakehilton: ^^[19:01:07] <hparker> !basic[19:01:07] <knoba> hparker: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[19:01:22] <hparker> jakehilton: ^^ that would be a good read as well[19:01:35] <jakehilton> yea.. read through the basic one.. will peel through it again[19:02:11] <hparker> the cheatsheet may help clear things up some[19:02:37] <jakehilton> will read over that one too.. thx[19:10:59] *** spy6 has quit IRC[19:11:00] *** tomocha6 has quit IRC[19:11:01] *** frag4 has quit IRC[19:11:01] *** zamba has quit IRC[19:11:01] *** Mazon has quit IRC[19:11:03] *** zamba has joined #postfix[19:11:03] *** spy6 has joined #postfix[19:11:09] *** frag4 has joined #postfix[19:11:14] *** tomocha6 has joined #postfix[19:11:16] *** Mazon has joined #postfix[19:12:38] <jtsigma> si there a way to run always_bcc AFTER alias expansion instead of before?[19:13:13] <jtsigma> maybe the better question, what is the best method to setup an ARCHIVE 'big brother' type of setup that will archive all mail on the user level (after alias expansion)[19:13:37] <f3ew> jtsigma, recipient_bcc_maps?[19:13:44] <sysmonk> with a regexp ?[19:13:45] <f3ew> Though alias_expansion happens at delivery tmie[19:13:48] <f3ew> time[19:13:54] <f3ew> and the bcc happens before that[19:14:07] <f3ew> You might want to use virtual_alias_maps nistead of alias_maps[19:14:11] *** Iron_Blood has joined #postfix[19:14:44] <jtsigma> if i use virtual alias maps, it'll do expansion after?[19:14:51] <jtsigma> i mean it'll do bcc after expansion?[19:15:04] <f3ew> Yes[19:16:44] *** Bagualas has quit IRC[19:17:08] <jtsigma> ok thanks[19:20:08] <Iron_Blood> mail transport unavailable[19:20:14] <Iron_Blood> could some one help me with that[19:20:15] <Iron_Blood> heh[19:22:24] <jtsigma> f3ew: so is the method that i'm implementing the most conventional way of doing email archive?[19:22:30] <jtsigma> or is there a more commonly used method?[19:22:47] *** carl- has joined #postfix[19:23:00] <f3ew> jtsigma, most people just use recipient_bcc_maps[19:23:08] <f3ew> Iron_Blood typo in the transport name?[19:23:13] <f3ew> broken IP network?[19:23:18] <jtsigma> ok.[19:23:43] <Iron_Blood> let me check all that[19:24:29] *** zack23 has joined #postfix[19:24:41] <zack23> Does postfix use identd or can I stop this application from running?[19:24:57] <zack23> I have this line: smtp inet n - n - - smtpd[19:25:01] <zack23> in master.cf[19:25:33] <f3ew> smtpd == listener for incoming mail[19:25:46] <zack23> so it has nothing to do with /etc/inetd.conf or anything?[19:26:45] <magyar_> hi, get this error message "loops back to myself" , I have the domain as a relay_domain. Why is it happening?[19:26:52] <zack23> what is the process smtpd -n smtp -t inet -u -o stress then? I think the '-t inet' is throwing me off[19:26:55] <Iron_Blood> for the relayhost =[19:27:01] <Iron_Blood> what am I suppose to use for that?[19:27:06] <f3ew> magyar_ postconf relay_domainS[19:27:12] <Iron_Blood> I dont play on relay anything[19:27:18] <f3ew> Iron_Blood smtp:[ip]:port[19:27:21] <Iron_Blood> so just leave in blank?[19:27:24] <f3ew> Iron_Blood then leave it blank[19:27:26] <f3ew> yes[19:27:28] <Iron_Blood> kk[19:27:49] <magyar_> f3ew, relay_domains = proxy:mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_relay_domains_maps.cf[19:28:05] <magyar_> f3ew, if I do a query it returns the domain[19:28:08] <f3ew> and postmap -q tells you the domani is listed?[19:28:54] <magyar_> f3ew, how do i do a "postmap -q" with sql?[19:29:14] <magyar_> SELECT domain FROM domain WHERE domain='%s' AND backupmx = '1' AND active = "1"[19:29:30] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[19:29:33] <magyar_> ^ the above query work in mysql[19:29:42] <magyar_> it returns the domain[19:30:18] <f3ew> postmap -q "example.com" mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_relay_domains_maps.cf[19:30:48] <magyar_> yeap works[19:30:58] <f3ew> reloa postfix[19:31:02] <f3ew> reload[19:31:28] <zack23> so the "smtpd -n smtp -t inet -u -o stress" has nothing to do with identd/inetd?[19:32:06] <magyar_> f3ew, loops back to myself[19:32:09] <magyar_> hmm[19:32:22] <Iron_Blood> I am a noob at this <f3ew> Iron_Blood typo in the transport name?[19:32:27] <Iron_Blood> where would I find this out?[19:32:46] <Iron_Blood> master? main?[19:33:15] <magyar_> why would postfix not relay mail to a "relay_domains" destination?[19:34:19] <f3ew> magyar_, it should[19:35:39] <magyar_> in my case i get "mail loops back to myself"[19:35:53] <magyar_> even if relay_domains are clearly therer[19:36:23] <magyar_> do I have to set "mydwstinations" also?[19:36:29] <magyar_> mydestiantions[19:36:36] <jakehilton> I have some aliases set up in mysql for postfix.. but get this error in my log: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table[19:36:58] *** decoder has quit IRC[19:37:00] <jakehilton> this related to not finding my local_recipient_maps?[19:37:31] <jakehilton> or virtual_alias_maps?[19:39:49] <f3ew> magyar_ you shouldn't have to[19:40:04] <f3ew> magyar_, do you have a transport_maps entry for the domain though?[19:40:18] <f3ew> jakehilton, remove the domain from mydestination?[19:41:05] <jakehilton> remove $mydomain you mean?[19:41:08] <jakehilton> or check if it's removed?[19:41:24] <magyar_> f3ew, nothin there[19:42:06] <magyar_> f3ew, the only thing I have is an MX that points to me and than it should relay the mail to the main MX[19:43:35] *** amrit|zzz is now known as amrit|wrk[19:44:09] <f3ew> magyar_, you probably need to configure that[19:52:10] *** Vivek has quit IRC[19:53:31] <magyar_> f3ew, wow, that was it.[19:54:50] <magyar_> make sense, it loops back as MX keeps pointing to it self. Without transport it's a never ending loop[19:54:52] <f3ew> magyar_, relay_domains need to go somewhere[19:54:54] <f3ew> yup[19:55:10] * magyar_ bows down to f3ew[19:55:12] <magyar_> thanks[19:55:14] <f3ew> I have now been working for ~ 14 hours[19:55:24] <f3ew> and I can still do this with a fried brain[19:55:30] * f3ew needs a life :|[19:55:46] <magyar_> sweet[19:56:19] <magyar_> I've been at work for the past 4 hours, but the weak braincells are taking over[20:00:42] <rob0> !unknown_local[20:00:42] <knoba> rob0: "unknown_local" : User unknown in local recipient table means that the recipient domain was found in $mydestination but the username was not found in local_recipient_maps (by default: users in /etc/passwd and aliases(5) in /etc/aliases).[20:05:28] <vice-versa> !pflogsumm[20:05:29] <knoba> vice-versa: "pflogsumm" : a perl script to analyse your mail log file and generate nice reports. See: http://jimsun.linxnet.com/postfix_contrib.html (metalog users see the !mpflogsumm factoid)[20:06:41] <vice-versa> !mpflogsumm[20:06:41] <knoba> vice-versa: "mpflogsumm" : a pflogsumm metalog howto, See: http://linuxnet.ca/postfix/pflogsumm_metalog.html[20:18:04] *** Zelest has joined #postfix[20:18:58] *** master_of_master has joined #postfix[20:26:43] *** jakehilton has quit IRC[20:28:08] *** jakehilton has joined #postfix[20:31:10] *** master_o1_master has quit IRC[20:32:23] *** rootsvr has joined #postfix[20:32:35] <Iron_Blood> f3ew, you busy?[20:33:40] <sysmonk> Iron_Blood: depends on how much you're paying[20:35:10] <seekwill> Do you accept payment in sheep?[20:35:45] *** xemacs has joined #postfix[20:35:58] <xemacs> hey guys i got a question regarding postfix in combination with spamassassin[20:36:21] <xemacs> it looks like the spamassassin commandqueue for checking mail is being kept open[20:36:30] <xemacs> how can i avoid this behaviour?[20:40:20] <f3ew> Iron_Blood what?[20:40:20] *** Iron_Blood has quit IRC[20:41:17] <seekwill> heh[20:50:08] <rob0> Payment in sheep? That's baaaaaaaaaad.[20:50:50] <sysmonk> seekwill: are they nice looking?[20:51:50] *** bimbomio has quit IRC[20:53:25] <seekwill> sysmonk: Depends. Do you prefer your sheep shaved?[20:53:44] <sysmonk> is that the only way i can differ if it's a male or female?[20:53:56] <seekwill> Does it matter?[20:54:13] <sysmonk> yeah! i'm not gay![20:54:32] <seekwill> oh[20:54:52] * sysmonk thinks i will be banned from this channel one day[20:54:53] <sysmonk> ;)[20:55:34] <rob0> You may fire at seekwill.[20:55:51] *** rootsvr has quit IRC[20:56:07] <rob0> seekwill and destroywill. Where there is a seekwill, there is a seekway.[20:56:10] * thumbs kills seekwill[20:59:16] <sega01> :end[20:59:22] <sega01> oops, sorr[21:06:53] *** orzel has joined #postfix[21:07:03] *** orzel has left #postfix[21:09:48] *** Broken|work_ has quit IRC[21:12:07] *** CyberCr33p has quit IRC[21:15:41] <seekwill> lol[21:17:56] <seekwill> sysmonk: Do you ever finger thumbs?[21:18:37] <sysmonk> er, what's that?[21:18:48] *** gonewestcoast has joined #postfix[21:19:10] * seekwill fingers thumbs[21:20:19] <pickcoder> must be slow here today[21:21:14] <seekwill> yep[21:21:47] * sysmonk sleep(rand()); /say pickcoder: what's slow here today?[21:23:36] *** skyweb has joined #postfix[21:32:19] *** pgib has joined #postfix[21:33:47] <pickcoder> the chat appears to be[21:36:19] <pgib> Hey everyone. I have a relatively standard postfix setup. We use unix users as the authentication method. Everything is great, but I would love to use sendmail on the localhost without requiring authentication (for sending email with php) any ideas what I should change? Here is my config http://rafb.net/p/5afHZU78.html Thanks![21:37:57] <sysmonk> pgib: 'sendmail' injects the mail directly into the queue[21:38:06] <sysmonk> it doesn't go through authentication[21:38:13] <pgib> then I wonder what is wrong...[21:38:27] <sysmonk> also, if you're connecting locally to port 25, you can add localhost to mynetworks, but it's a default afair[21:38:31] <pgib> tried doing sendmail localUserName < foo.file[21:38:41] <sysmonk> maybe try looking at the error you get ?:)[21:39:12] <pgib> well, this is a temporary fix (just sending some debug info to myself) so I am lucky that I can run sendmail on the same box as postfix[21:39:24] <pgib> I don't receive any error (nor email) :)[21:39:43] <sysmonk> pgib: 'sendmail' is postfix wrapper[21:39:53] <sysmonk> unless you didn't install it that way :)[21:40:05] *** Pazzo has quit IRC[21:40:41] * cpm wraps sysmonk[21:40:43] <pgib> i installed it however centos installs it[21:42:17] * sysmonk doens't know how centozzzz installs it[21:42:21] * sysmonk unwrapps cpm[21:42:56] <pickcoder> I'm pretty sure the RPMs have conflicts between postfix and sendmail[21:42:56] <pgib> going to do some research.. but, if I sendmail to a user, a mail should appear in their ~/Maildir/new/ right?[21:43:09] <pgib> I wonder how to configure it to use postfix[21:43:46] *** cpm has quit IRC[21:45:13] <rob0> If you have issues about how your OS does things, this isn't the best place to ask. Check the documentation?[21:45:35] <pgib> I'm looking now[21:45:46] <pgib> it's not really _my_ OS either.. I'm just the developer[21:47:28] *** dusty_ has quit IRC[21:54:31] <pgib> is there a way to tell if the sendmail binary on my computer is the postfix wrapper or the standalone?[21:57:31] *** vertigo- has quit IRC[21:58:32] <pgib> awesome, it works now[21:58:51] <pgib> just installed sendmail, then the postfix interface was PATH'd[21:58:57] <pgib> s/installed/uninstalled[22:02:48] *** syllogism has quit IRC[22:06:18] *** Jax0r has joined #postfix[22:06:48] *** Jax0r is now known as Jax[22:07:06] *** carl- has quit IRC[22:07:24] *** Joe_Wulf has joined #postfix[22:09:26] *** keffer has quit IRC[22:10:05] *** sega01 has quit IRC[22:10:06] *** Niemi has quit IRC[22:14:35] *** Jax has quit IRC[22:14:37] *** pirho has joined #postfix[22:16:25] *** JoeWulf has quit IRC[22:25:31] *** alienbrain has joined #postfix[22:26:15] *** archangel7863 has joined #postfix[22:27:00] *** robtone_ has quit IRC[22:32:42] *** jtsigma has left #postfix[22:35:05] *** devaudio has joined #postfix[22:37:01] *** pgib has left #postfix[22:37:11] <devaudio> how to I call procmail on aliases in /etc/mail/aliases ? I have modified the mailbox_command to procmail, and it's working - I created a global procmailrc, and it doesn't seem to run on things I have setup as aliases in /etc/mail/aliases[22:39:16] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[22:43:32] *** nach0s has joined #postfix[22:45:35] <nach0s> Hi all. im with a problem... i have postfix + postfixadmin... but.. when i create an alias... and send a mail to the alias... it rewrite the send email to the name of alias... like it... my alias is alias at domain dot com... and i set that all mail to alias at domain dot com will be forwarded to user1 at domain dot com... but... when user1 at domain dot com receives the mail.. it appears to have sent by alias at domain dot com.. and not the real user... how cna i solve it?[22:45:46] *** rootsvr has joined #postfix[22:47:59] *** bpgoldsb has joined #postfix[22:52:36] *** Seamus has left #postfix[22:53:34] *** felix-da-catz has joined #postfix[22:55:24] *** hparker has quit IRC[22:59:02] *** nach0s has quit IRC[23:03:36] *** devaudio has quit IRC[23:03:49] *** tore has joined #postfix[23:08:00] *** sgisgi has joined #postfix[23:08:40] <sgisgi> hi guys, quick question, how can I create a drop account with postfix, basically I want all email sent to unknown usernames to be sent to one account?[23:09:52] <sysmonk> !luser[23:09:52] <knoba> sysmonk: Error: "luser" is not a valid command.[23:10:01] <sysmonk> err[23:10:03] <sysmonk> !luser_relay[23:10:03] <knoba> sysmonk: "luser_relay" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional catch-all destination for unknown local(8) recipients. By default, mail for unknown recipients in domains that match $mydestination, $inet_interfaces or $proxy_interfaces is returned as undeliverable.[23:10:08] <sysmonk> sgisgi: ^^[23:10:35] <sgisgi> sysmonk, thank you[23:15:14] *** jwit has quit IRC[23:15:24] *** jwit_ has joined #postfix[23:16:06] *** Draecos has joined #postfix[23:23:20] <sgisgi> im going through the docs, struggling to find a decent example, anyone got a sec to help me?[23:25:41] *** madrescher has joined #postfix[23:26:03] *** tomocha6 has quit IRC[23:26:21] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[23:27:02] <seekwill> lol.... what does the 'l' stand for?[23:27:24] <sgisgi> heh[23:28:03] <seekwill> not in lol... what does the 'l' stand for in luser[23:28:27] *** rootsvr has quit IRC[23:30:39] <vice-versa> seekwill: seriously?[23:33:59] <sgisgi> Incoming mail to an unknown user, I want it sent to dump at mydomain dot com's mail folder, I thought luser_relay = dump+$local would do this, what am I doing wrong?[23:34:30] <seekwill> vice-versa: I'm a postfix newbie :([23:34:32] <sysmonk> sgisgi: dump+$local ?[23:35:19] <sysmonk> seekwill: maybe it stands for 'local' ( local user), but maybe there's mistype in 'user' ;P[23:35:22] <vice-versa> seekwill: it's a log time Unix term for local user[23:35:23] <sgisgi> sysmonk, well I saw the main.cf line luser_relay = admin+$local and thought that might have been the syntax[23:35:36] <seekwill> ah[23:35:44] <seekwill> local users are lusers[23:35:50] <vice-versa> s/log/long/[23:36:28] <sysmonk> sgisgi: that would mail to admin, with users extension[23:36:46] <sysmonk> i.e. if i'd be mailing blahblah at domain dot com it would go to admin+blahblah[23:37:13] <sgisgi> sysmonk, how do I get it to go to dump at domain dot com?[23:37:27] <sysmonk> sgisgi: luser_relay = dump at domain dot com[23:37:44] <sgisgi> sysmonk, thanks alot[23:37:50] <sysmonk> wasn't that simple?[23:38:00] <sgisgi> <--luser.[23:38:26] <sysmonk> man, why people mistype that word? if you read it as 'u' it doesn't mean it's not 'oo' :P[23:40:30] *** skyweb has quit IRC[23:40:30] <sgisgi> luser_relay = dump at domain dot com doesn't work[23:41:12] *** j__s has quit IRC[23:42:36] *** skyweb has joined #postfix[23:43:36] <sysmonk> did you restart postfix?[23:43:42] <sgisgi> yes[23:43:47] <sysmonk> what do the logs say ?[23:43:55] <sysmonk> can you pastebin a log line which rejects the mail?[23:43:57] <sgisgi> checking them now[23:48:08] <sgisgi> http://rafb.net/p/NFP8fC75.html[23:48:15] *** alienbrain has quit IRC[23:49:33] *** F6F has quit IRC[23:50:25] <sysmonk> sgisgi: you have to disable local_recipient_maps[23:53:06] <sgisgi> they're all hashed out[23:53:31] *** zack23 has quit IRC[23:53:44] *** bimbomio has joined #postfix