[00:00:38] * _trn is starting the next step: adding dspam to postfix :)
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[00:02:18] <mwalling> there, try again?
[00:02:53] <sysmonk> works
[00:02:59] <sysmonk> that is, works as it should :)
[00:03:03] <sysmonk> not as it did before :P
[00:03:23] <sahil> _trn: amavisd-new > *
[00:03:30] <sahil> just integrate with SA there.
[00:08:39] <_trn> sahil: I thinked about spamassassin. but I want a light and user-trainable antispam. And I link the user-spam@domain approach.
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[00:08:55] <_trn> Is SA really better for some good reason?
[00:10:20] <_trn> I link = I like
[00:12:14] <shasta> amavis can do recipient_delimiter
[00:12:23] <shasta> (I've got user+spam@)
[00:12:45] <sysmonk> ye, user+spam is great
[00:12:48] * sysmonk uses it too
[00:13:09] <_trn> with SA or spamd?
[00:13:22] <_trn> sorry, dspam
[00:14:14] <sysmonk> amavisd-new + sa
[00:14:19] <sysmonk> + lots_of_other_stuff
[00:14:20] <sysmonk> ;)
[00:16:00] <_trn> but what's the *real* advantage in using amavisd-new? what's the difference with just using mailbox_command to pass the emails to the antispam software of your choice?
[00:16:48] <_trn> is gets automatically executed with the user's privileges, and it seems simple and reilable to me. What am I missing?
[00:16:56] <sysmonk> _trn: it has lots of functionality inside
[00:17:03] <sysmonk> i.e. whitelists/blacklists/scoring
[00:17:16] <sysmonk> per recipient/domain stuff
[00:17:35] <sysmonk> i.e. you can sya that for trn at domain dot com spam should be delivered, trn2 at domain dot com -> spam should be rejected
[00:17:41] <sysmonk> and for trn3 at domain dot com spam should be bounced
[00:18:02] <sysmonk> uses less resources than passing it directly to sa
[00:18:36] <sysmonk> as SA is a perl module, amavisd is perl to, so it loads SA at startup and doesn't need to invoke new processes and load it all over again for each mail
[00:19:40] <sysmonk> if you have 10 mailboxes, sure, pipe'ing to a command might be allright
[00:20:00] <sysmonk> if you have thousands or hunderd of thousands of mailboxes - it's not that nice
[00:20:45] <sysmonk> also, with pipe'ing you can't do before-queue filtering
[00:21:04] <_trn> ok, you convinced me to investigate more around amavisd-new.
[00:21:12] <sysmonk> anyway, there are lots of advantages, but you'll better ask about it in #amavis
[00:21:16] <sysmonk> and i'm going to sleep :)
[00:21:39] <_trn> good night :)
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[01:06:48] <sahil> _trn: you can do per-user with SA, so whomever or whatever told you otherwise was, well, let's just say, flawed.  and recipient delimiters like + or - are easy with amavisd/spamassassin.
[01:09:41] <_trn> at the moment I can't see how can it do things 'per-user' as it runs with its own uid (it's surely possible, I just still don't realize how).
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[03:06:55] <_trn> here is another questions for a postfix oldtimer :)
[03:07:57] <_trn> I want to allow ONLY some sasl-authenticated users to send emails to SOME email addresses
[03:08:14] <_trn> is there a way to do it?
[03:09:04] <xpoint> see policyd v2
[03:09:54] <xpoint> its sender based route based on sender in sasl or just filter based on sasl
[03:10:15] <_trn> thank you
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[03:31:14] <clamasters> I am having problems getting postfix to deliver mail via maildir on Ubuntu 8.04 running postfix/amavis/dovecot/spamassassin.  I have home_mailbox = Maildir/  and mydestination = localhost.localdomain, localhost in main.cf
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[03:49:34] <clamasters> if it matters, i used http://www200.pair.com/mecham/spam/debian-maia101-ssl.html and http://www200.pair.com/mecham/spam/spamfilter20061118.html to install and configure the server with the exception of Maildir and dovecot
[03:51:04] <xpoint> do not use dovecot as lda ?
[03:51:20] <xpoint> why not ?
[03:52:19] <clamasters> lda?
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[03:53:36] <clamasters> to be honest, im not sure how that functions.  I have not herd of it until now.
[03:54:22] <xpoint> lda = deliver
[03:54:51] <clamasters> would that be used instead of maildir?
[03:55:18] <xpoint> http://wiki.dovecot.org/LDA/Postfix
[03:57:06] <jeev> anything new in the game xpoint?
[03:57:28] <xpoint> i dont play games sorry
[03:57:39] <jeev> in the amavisd game
[03:57:40] <jeev> dork
[04:09:15] <xpoint> jeev, but if you asked if postfixadmin and amavisd could work better together the answer is yes
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[04:57:11] <clamasters> ok, now im getting "451 4.3.5 Server configuration error" when sending test emails TO the server
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[04:58:17] <seekwill> lol
[04:58:23] <seekwill> That's an awesome 4xx
[04:58:40] <seekwill> "I can't get accept your email. I'm not configured properly :/"
[05:03:18] <clamasters> where should i look.  as stated before im trying to get ubutnu/dovecot/maia-mailguard delivering to local users with maildir
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[05:22:35] <clamasters> figured it out.... i had an "i" in a place where it shouldn't be in main.cf.... i thought postfix check was supposed to check syntax
[05:36:04] <clamasters> ok, another dumb question...im using system users and not virual users ...how to i link more domains to each user...all users will have all domains
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[05:41:04] <pickcoder> mydestinations
[05:42:16] <pickcoder> seekwill: it should say "451 4.3.5 Help! Help! I'm being repressed!"
[05:50:16] <seekwill> hehe
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[05:54:33] <clamasters> is there an easy way to hash that so i don't have to type them all multiple times
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[06:43:03] <k-man> i know its off topic, but just wondering how i might make shared folders with imap that all authorised users can move and delete emails from the shared folder?
[06:43:11] <k-man> anyone found a way to do that?
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[07:22:38] <penrod> greetings, what should the permissions be on the main.cf file ?
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[07:23:32] <f3ew> 644
[07:24:00] <olinux> can i hi have virtual users setup, (users/domains are stored in mysql)
[07:24:29] <olinux> sorry I have a virtual users setup, and I want to set one alias to pipe to a script
[07:25:10] <penrod> f3ew: thanks, that's what I have, what may be causing the vacation program to give me the following error ?...status=bounced (Command died with status 1: "/usr/bin/vacation username
[07:26:28] <f3ew> penrod, can you run the vacation comm and as that user?
[07:26:30] <f3ew> comman*
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[07:27:59] <penrod> f3ew: yes, however it doesn't give me the normal series of questions, it show .vacation.msg, that is weird.
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[10:05:17] <Zonei> Hi all! What could be the reason for emails sent to my server being rejected with 554 Relay access denied?
[10:05:28] <f3ew> log?
[10:05:40] <Zonei> When I'm sending emails to myself, form other email services like google, all is fine, but when someone else does it, it fails like this.
[10:06:43] <Zonei> log?
[10:09:15] <Zonei> http://pastebin.ca/1078193
[10:11:29] <Sausage> My problem is more fun, I can't recieve any emails, nothing in any logs.
[10:11:55] <Sausage> Sending (to outside addresses) works fine at least :)
[10:12:57] <sysmonk> Sausage: blocked smtp port ?
[10:13:50] <f3ew> Zonei postconf -n please?
[10:13:55] <Sausage> I don't have anything blocked, apart from IP addresses via iptables.
[10:14:06] <f3ew> You appear not to have the recipient domain listed anywhere in your config
[10:14:11] <f3ew> Sausage, your ISP?
[10:14:26] <f3ew> also, show netstat -lnt | grep :25
[10:14:31] <Sausage> It was working before, but I've changed from real users to userdb
[10:14:38] <Zonei> f3ew: just a sec
[10:14:51] <Sausage> I might see what happens if I connect to SMTP manually.
[10:15:34] <Sausage> Doesn't look like it's connecting, port is open though =\
[10:15:50] <f3ew> hmmm
[10:16:00] <f3ew> restart syslogd perhaps?
[10:19:28] <Zonei> f3ew: http://pastebin.ca/1078200
[10:19:42] <Zonei> I just tried to send myself email from my gmail account, it came through.
[10:21:05] <f3ew> Is the domain listed in virtual_mailbox_domains?
[10:21:24] <f3ew> Does info@ have an alias in
[10:21:44] <Zonei> f3ew yeah, like I said, I just send myself email from gmail, and it works.
[10:21:57] <Zonei> but when someone else sends it, it doesn't.
[10:22:16] <Zonei> for instance, it fails with this service: http://www.zoneedit.com/smtp.html
[10:22:45] <f3ew> unedited logs for a successful delivery and an unsuccessful one please?
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[10:31:05] <Zonei> sec
[10:31:48] <Zonei> wait, I think it's the reject noname hosts setting....
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[10:34:04] <Zonei> f3ew: http://pastebin.ca/1078206
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[10:43:07] <kykub> hi all
[10:43:59] <kykub> i have problem my customer can not sent email to me bacause ip of my customer are in blacklist i use RBL
[10:44:07] <kykub> to reject MY Customer
[10:45:24] <kykub> howo allow email   from  my customer  ip ?
[10:47:37] <f3ew> Use a check_client_access before the DNSBL check?
[10:48:51] <kykub> it looklike pop-before-smtp ?
[10:51:16] <f3ew> yes
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[10:58:27] <Zonei> f3ew: any ideas what could be the problem with my setup?
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[11:03:56] <f3ew> hmmm, makes no sense
[11:06:10] <sysmonk> f3ew: question also is - what's in the sender_restrictions map, what's in the master.cf
[11:06:13] <sysmonk> and was postfix restarted after the last main.cf / master.cf change
[11:06:35] <sysmonk> as the changes might be done already, but postfix doesn't know about them yet, and he pastebins the new params
[11:08:24] <f3ew> sysmonk, yup
[11:08:54] <f3ew> the relay access denied is a "domain not listed in any class" restriction
[11:11:05] <Zonei> f3ew: recepient domain, correct?
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[11:13:04] <sysmonk> Zonei: restart postfix, pastebin postconf -n, pastebin you main.cf, pastebin the reject and accept logs (after restart )
[11:13:07] <sysmonk> unmungled
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[11:16:11] <n215> I want to host couple domains on my postfix
[11:16:51] <Zonei> sysmonk: ok, sec
[11:20:12] <f3ew> !virtual
[11:20:13] <knoba> f3ew: "virtual" : a way to configure additional domains and user accounts (that do not need to exist in your /etc/passwd). See: http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html
[11:26:56] <n215> I want to have like example1.com example2.com with different users
[11:27:37] <sysmonk> first, you'll need to learn to read, then, read !virtual
[11:43:22] <Zonei> f3ew, sysmonk: thanks for your assistance but nevermind. the problem was in invalid domain cache on teh sender side... all works fine now.
[11:44:01] <n215> can virtual_mailbox_domains and $mydomain be same?
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[11:53:29] <f3ew> n215 http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_CLASS_README.html
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[12:02:35] <tsauter> hi all
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[12:09:03] <tsauter> I am playing with postfix sasl support and everything work fine. My only question is, is it possible to force address rewriting based on the sasl login name?
[12:17:42] <f3ew> Never tried
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[12:52:00] <Sedrik> anyone have ideas on why when i connect to my smtp server I don't get a 220 response on connect acknowledging who the server is?
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[12:53:48] <user1_> hello! what does this mean?
[12:53:50] <user1_> authdaemond: failed to connect to mysql server (server=<null>, userid=postfix): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2)
[12:54:27] <user1_> it's from log when i try to connect pop server
[12:54:37] <Sausage> I think authdaemond is courier, and that means the MySQL server might be down(?)
[12:55:28] <user1_> no, the mysql is up (100%)
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[12:56:09] <user1_> can this mean, that wrong mysql server address in the config file?
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[12:56:24] <user1_> (server=<null>, userid=postfix)
[12:56:50] <Sausage> Well you could set it if your mysql server is listening on the network
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[12:58:52] <user1_> in the config i have this
[12:58:55] <user1_> MYSQL_SOCKET            /tmp/mysql.sock
[12:58:59] <user1_> but
[12:59:10] <user1_> find / -name mysql.sock give this
[12:59:20] <user1_> /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock
[12:59:28] <user1_> it's a solution? =)
[12:59:50] <dragonheart> looks like a broken mess to me
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[13:04:24] <Sausage> I've been trying to get my mail server to work for almost 2 days in a row now.
[13:04:28] <Sausage> Too bad it doesn't use postfix.
[13:05:28] <Trengo> user1_ means your server doesnt match your client
[13:05:54] <Trengo> server sets up the socket in /var/run and client expects it in /tmp
[13:06:37] <Trengo> either you got the binaries for the wrong platform or the build went wrog
[13:06:39] <Trengo> wrong
[13:08:13] <user1_> ok, i change the path for socket and i have normal connection, but now i have this
[13:08:40] <user1_> chdir(/var/spool/mail) failed!!
[13:09:14] <user1_> in the mysql db i have this - maildir = /var/spool/mail/root
[13:09:22] <user1_> have i mistake?
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[13:14:13] <Sausage> All these spam requests when I'm trying to debug the server are getting annoying.
[13:15:32] <rob0> ?? So why are you asking here: < Sausage> Too bad it doesn't use postfix.
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[13:15:39] <Sausage> What did I ask?
[13:15:44] <rob0> ah
[13:16:03] <Sausage> I figured an MTA channel is the best place to whine about MTAs XD
[13:16:11] <f3ew> heh
[13:16:13] <rob0> Indeed, spammers are annoying. Sociopaths.
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[13:17:04] <cpm> rob0iopath
[13:22:34] <Sausage> =_= I got it to work by making a copy of all users.
[13:22:38] <Sausage> sausage and sausage at tehsausage dot com
[13:24:05] <Sausage> But now I can only send email to people via that one domain (I wanted shared across all of them)
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[13:37:51] <user1_> if i post my log, may i hope that somebody look's them?
[13:46:39] <rob0> If you do NOT post it, you can be relatively sure that no one will see it. But that said, "< user1_> in the mysql db i have this - maildir = /var/spool/mail/root", huh? Where did you see this example?
[13:47:18] <user1_> it's my mistake
[13:47:36] <user1_> i have change to /var/spool/mail
[13:47:58] <rob0> What is the goal? What is the problem? Why am I bothering to ask?\
[13:49:37] <user1_> ?? ?? ? ?????, ??? ?????????
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[13:54:03] <cpm> ????????? ??? '????? ? ?? ??
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[14:03:43] <Trengo> oh no, cpm knows the funny letters too
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[14:05:09] <dragonheart> there's a new secret language in the world! help help
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[14:12:37] <n215> my mail is being delivered to wrong place
[14:13:36] <dragonheart> i haven't got it
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[15:18:12] <Dantix> hi, I'm trying to get a sort of high availability to my postfix server. I'm doing mysql maps and configured for eachone somthing like: transport_maps= mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-transp1.cf mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-transp2.cf, on .cf files configured the my 2 different mysql hosts. The problem is when mysql2 falls, postfix do not try with mysql1, as should be following the transport_maps directive. Are there anything else I need to configure?
[15:18:33] <f3ew> why not use DNS?
[15:19:50] <cpm> why not use high availability mysql?
[15:20:03] <Dantix> f3ew just because don't bring to my mind
[15:20:31] <Dantix> cpm I don't want to get more complex my box
[15:21:03] <rob0> High availability *IS* more complexity. Deal with it?
[15:21:15] <Dantix> postfix maps says that this kind of things could be done as I done
[15:21:25] * f3ew cries
[15:21:26] <xpoint> dns is not simple
[15:21:33] <f3ew> MX records
[15:21:41] <Dantix> rob0 that's why I said "a sort"
[15:22:13] <Dantix> *postfix man pages of maps says
[15:22:16] <rob0> Anyway, there are a couple of good suggestions, enjoy.
[15:23:38] <Dantix> rob0 but, aren't there a answer to my question?
[15:23:45] <xpoint> 42
[15:23:52] <f3ew> Dantix, XY problem
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[15:32:47] <tuxick> wondering if there's much point in adding amavis or mimedefang when already using couple of milters?
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[15:44:39] <dragonheart> tuxick: by adding complexity you get more job security :-/
[15:45:22] <dragonheart> honestly you need to defined your requiremnts before you know if the solution is a good thing
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[15:46:57] <cpm> tuxick, if your spec calls for amavis+mimedefang, then yes.
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[15:47:47] <tuxick> well migrating from a sendmail+mimedefang
[15:48:20] <tuxick> afaic postfix can handle most of that stuff just fine without it
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[17:24:10] <lrp> hellow everyone
[17:25:15] <lrp> does anyone know if procmail have something to do in postfix ?  if i install p`rocmail package my postfix mail server can became unstable ?
[17:25:27] <js_> no
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[17:26:29] <lrp> because i need to do .forward and i believe that work only if procmail is installed rigth ?
[17:26:55] <lrp> procmail - Versatile e-mail processor   thats what  i need to install tho :/
[17:27:34] <rob0> Procmail is not needed at all, and is a common stumbling block for Debian (+derivative) users, because they change Postfix settings and are puzzled when nothing happens as a result.
[17:28:12] <rob0> You apparently have not read any Postfix documentation yet. Please do so.
[17:28:25] <lrp> i do , but i dont remember very well my friend
[17:29:30] <lrp> anyway , i need to do is a forward mail to one account to other
[17:29:33] <lrp> thats all
[17:30:08] <rob0> "man local", a .forward file with two lines, would do that.
[17:31:09] <lrp> a.forward ?  i was doing .forward without the a
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[17:32:42] <lrp> nope , is without the a  :)  /reading man
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[18:19:48] <n215> !relay access
[18:19:49] <knoba> n215: Error: "relay" is not a valid command.
[18:21:32] <n215> !relay_denied
[18:21:34] <knoba> n215: "relay_denied" : \"554 5.7.1 <RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN>: Relay access denied; from=<SENDER_ADDRESS> to=<RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN> proto=ESMTP helo=<HELO>\": This typically means that CLIENT_IP is not in mynetworks (and did not AUTH), and that RCPT_DOMAIN was not recognized as one of this Postfix's domains (not listed in mydestination, relay_domains or virtual_*_domains).
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[18:55:34] <Dantix> hi all, are there a way to "see" the value running of a variable like mydestination, for example?
[18:55:52] <sysmonk> postconf mydestination
[18:56:33] <Dantix> sysmonk thanks
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[18:57:00] <sysmonk> that's not a "runing value" but whe one which postfix would see after restart, the one which is in main.cf
[19:01:05] <Dantix> I've added $transport_maps to mydestination and issue reject_unauth_destination at recipient_restrictions. Doing manual sql query to mysql like postfix should be, I've have response. Said it all, my problem is that postfix doesn't honor mydestination=$transport_maps, so do no match reject_unauth_destination, matches the following restriction and fail to receive mails.... what could be wrong?
[19:01:35] <sysmonk> Dantix: /topic
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[19:19:11] <Dantix> I've added $transport_maps to mydestination and issue reject_unauth_destination at recipient_restrictions. Doing manual sql query to mysql like postfix should be, I've have response. Said it all, my problem is that postfix doesn't honor mydestination=$transport_maps, so do no match reject_unauth_destination, matches the following restriction and fail to receive mails.... what could be wrong? http://pastebin.org/54929 http://pastebin.org/54935
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[19:28:58] <sysmonk> Dantix: oh fuck, what the hell is that pastebin?
[19:29:03] <sysmonk> do you really have all those params defined?
[19:29:21] <sysmonk> or you just did 'postconf' and not 'postconf -n'
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[19:36:32] <lunaphyte_> yeah, that looks like output from postconf without any arguments.
[19:37:29] <Dantix> sysmonk sorry I did just postconf
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[19:39:10] <Dantix> sysmonk let see..  http://pastebin.org/54952
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[19:41:20] <shasta> what on earth did you mean by putting $transport_maps into $mydestination?!
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[19:48:18] <bpgoldsb> I want to have any message to FOO+WHATEVER at domain dot tld to go to FOO at domain dot tld, where should I be looking to do this?
[19:51:54] <Dantix> shasta I want to accept all domains that results from query the transport database, so if it is in transport database it will be accepted
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[19:53:31] <shasta> Dantix, then you did it wrong
[19:53:38] <Dantix> shasta: It's working in that way on a old Postfix box running over debian woody
[19:54:26] <Dantix> shasta: perhaps with the actual Postfix version do not
[19:57:29] <Dantix> shasta: how should you do to get Postfix accepting messages sent to any of the domains stored in trasnport database?
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[20:04:03] <adaptr> !basic
[20:04:04] <knoba> adaptr: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[20:04:12] <adaptr> Dantix: start there
[20:04:53] <thumbs> !adaptr
[20:04:55] <knoba> thumbs: "adaptr" : a small shell script that floods the channel with factoids
[20:05:19] <cpm> !chucknorris
[20:05:20] <knoba> cpm: "chucknorris" : Steven Seagal is CockPuncher
[20:07:10] <shasta> Dantix, you obviously don't understand what transport_maps are. man 5 transport
[20:07:21] <shasta> and yes, !basic is a good suggestion to
[20:07:26] <shasta> s/to$/too/
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[20:15:06] <Dantix> shasta I accept I'm using transport for other mean that the original, but works for years for me.
[20:16:13] <adaptr> Dantix: you cannot use transport maps for any purpose other than... transport maps
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[20:21:44] <Dantix> so I've remove it from mydestination, now is only used in relay_domains, and I still receiving the same error, so reject_unauth_destiantion does not match neither..
[20:21:49] <lunaphyte_> i use transport_maps for hard-to-open cans.
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[20:27:09] <adaptr> I dare you to use a transport map to scratch your balls
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[20:27:46] <cpm> BallScratcher!
[20:28:02] <adaptr> scratchmapper
[20:28:18] <adaptr> spamballer
[20:29:53] <shasta> let me make this clear
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[20:30:24] <lunaphyte_> i think the edges are too sharp to do that safely.
[20:30:38] <shasta> Dantix, transport_maps ISN'T WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR
[20:30:40] <shasta> period
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[20:30:44] <adaptr> you can scratch with a razor
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[20:35:34] <Dantix> shasta http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/postfix
[20:36:01] <Dantix> shasta: Marlow said: mydestination = $myhostname, $transport_maps
[20:36:01] <Dantix>
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[20:38:41] <shasta> Dantix:
[20:38:43] <shasta> !tutorial
[20:38:44] <knoba> shasta: "tutorial" : A very common problem is that some people prefer to follow a step-by-step tutorial that shows them how to setup their mail server without reading the documentation or understanding what they are doing. If something goes wrong, they have no clue whatsoever about where to look for hints, and they sometimes decide to start from scratch using a different tutorial. This is not The Proper Way.
[20:39:04] <shasta> and: Last updated: November 15th, 2004
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[20:40:48] <shasta> whatever, I'm off
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[20:42:51] <Dantix> well Sirs, I come for help and I just receipt was diqualification... thanks anyway
[20:43:22] <adaptr> no, you're being smart and confident: "works for yeears for me!"
[20:43:32] <adaptr> well, go to it, Sir - enjoy your postfux
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[20:46:05] <TaiSHi> Can I recover a mail with status=bounced ?
[20:46:09] <devdas> no
[20:46:20] <devdas> If it's in the queue, maybe
[20:46:21] <TaiSHi> they haven't gone back to sender, nor arrived
[20:46:22] <adaptr> it's bin delivered, innit ?
[20:46:41] <TaiSHi> adaptur: i wasnut delivarud
[20:47:03] <adaptr> TaiSHi: you have yet to learn what "delivered" means to an MTA
[20:48:18] <TaiSHi> adaptr: I may, I may
[20:48:59] <adaptr> in the case of postfix, it means "handled, done with, not my problem, over out and sayonara"
[20:49:25] <adaptr> THEN, postfix *generates* the bounce message, and delivers it anew
[20:49:36] <TaiSHi> Where is the postfix queue ?
[20:49:42] <adaptr> they are always two separate messages
[20:49:50] <adaptr> ehm.. somewhere on your hard disk ?
[20:50:26] <TaiSHi> adaptr: I would just need to know what happened to those :P
[20:50:27] * cpm keeps his queue in adaptr's bedside table
[20:50:35] * TaiSHi hugs cpm
[20:50:45] <pdragon> http://linux.die.net/man/1/postqueue
[20:50:55] <adaptr> TaiSHi: postqueu, postcat, man those mans!
[20:52:13] <TaiSHi> They're not here!
[20:52:14] <TaiSHi> zomg
[20:52:15] <TaiSHi> Well
[20:52:19] <TaiSHi> They were only ...
[20:52:21] <TaiSHi> "few" mails
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[20:58:39] <TaiSHi> Thanks for the info adaptr, pdragon, devdas, God.
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[21:01:54] * TaiSHi runs
[21:02:04] * TaiSHi but before he runs...
[21:02:07] * TaiSHi spanks adaptr
[21:02:44] * sysmonk spanks TaiSHi
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[21:02:53] <sysmonk> spank party
[21:03:02] <cpm> sick
[21:03:18] * sysmonk spanks cpm
[21:03:29] * cpm cries and pouts
[21:03:33] <sysmonk> who's your daddy?
[21:07:20] <TaiSHi> cpm
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[21:54:05] <thumbs> spank party?
[21:54:11] <thumbs> what the hell is going on here???
[21:54:25] <sysmonk> wanna join?
[21:54:31] <thumbs> no thanks.
[21:54:44] <thumbs> that's adaptr's turf
[21:56:10] <rob0> and vice-versa
[21:56:18] <rob0> !seen vice-versa
[21:56:19] <knoba> rob0: vice-versa was last seen in #postfix 2 weeks, 2 days, 23 hours, 52 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <vice-versa> I would prefer to have a recipients lists extracted from the AD data and pushed to the MTA myself
[22:00:29] <sysmonk> oh yeah, AD killed him!
[22:00:36] <sysmonk> vice-versa migrated to AD
[22:00:49] <sysmonk> and, by the way, AD in russian means 'hell' :)
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[22:01:18] <PcPixel> :)
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[22:08:14] <rob0> I think that's true in any language!
[22:08:42] <rob0> Iditye k chortu!
[22:09:00] <sysmonk> haha:))
[22:09:27] <sysmonk> that's "go to hell" although a direct translation would be "go to devil"
[22:09:42] * rob0 hugs his old Russian teacher for throwing in such phrases
[22:11:35] <sysmonk> yeah, it's always good to know that kind of phrases ;P
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[22:20:49] <roe_> in a virtual setup is there a way to serve multiple certs based on dns?  meaning can I serve cert a if the user connects via, mail.domainA.com and cert b if user connects via, mail.domainB.com?
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[22:21:57] <adaptr> it will use whatever FQDN the cert was given out for
[22:22:18] <adaptr> and that tends to be the true hostname of the machine, as postfix knows it
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[22:29:03] <roe_> so their is no way to virtualize an SSL connection properly
[22:30:07] <roe_> properly == no warnings
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[22:39:12] <felix-da-catz> Alright, so I am having problems with dspam for some reason and I am using check_recipient_access to decide weather I want to run the email through a spam filter or not.  I have it pointing to a .cf file (I am using MySQL database for the virtual users as well).
[22:40:32] <felix-da-catz> In the .cf file I have the following query:SELECT IF(COUNT('username') = '0', "OK", "FILTER lmtp:1.1.1.1:2424") FROM mailbox WHERE username = '%s'.  How can I stop delievery to the dspam server and just ignore it all together.  Should I just remove the check_recipient_access link or change the SQL query and remove the FILTER from there?
[22:41:14] <felix-da-catz> If I change the query, should I just take out the IF statement all together?
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[22:44:18] <rob0> roe_: write and propose another extension to ESMTP which tells the smtpd what DNS name was used.
[22:44:45] <roe_> rob0, I'm right on that
[22:45:16] <rob0> Until that's approved and widely implemented, you're stuck with a single cert per IP address.
[22:46:01] <felix-da-catz> Sounds like the nightmare called Exchange 2007.  Just trying to do webmail on the same server.
[22:46:29] <roe_> so all virtual mail setups use one hostname if they want a real cert
[22:47:39] <rob0> I think that's how it is in HTTP as well. I know https can only do one cert per IP, not sure about http with STARTTLS.
[22:51:09] <lunaphyte_> hmm, could you have multiple instances listening in master, tied to a particular interface?
[22:51:11] <felix-da-catz> Can I change FILTER lmtp:1.1.1.1:2424 to REJECT 550 Unknown User or whatever the right message happens to be?
[22:52:21] <lunaphyte_> roe_: i'm to lazy to try it, but my small brain tells me that would perhaps work.
[22:53:38] <rob0> lunaphyte_, yes, it does, you set the path to the cert & CA with -o options to smtpd(8).
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[22:56:56] <lunaphyte_> that was my thought, yeah, although if you're limited to a single interface you're still stuck.
[22:58:06] <lunaphyte_> i know that gnutls has some preliminary support for sni - enough to get it working with apache+mod_gnutls, but i haven't ever heard of anyone trying that with postfix.
[22:59:40] <rob0> oh no, you can have multiple IP addresses on the same interface, and each one with its own cert.
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[23:04:01] <wasabi> Howdy. Trying to figure out how to make a catch all email address that resends the email, altering the from/to.
[23:04:13] <wasabi> I guessed I'd just put a shell script in /etc/aliases using |
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[23:04:30] <wasabi> But it says in the man file not to specify domains in that file, which I'd need... and wildcards.
[23:04:33] <wasabi> * at domain dot com
[23:04:51] <wasabi> So what are my options?
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[23:06:27] <Klebel> any ideas why any incoming attachments come in, and we look at them they are corrupted??? But when they are sent, they are indeed not corrupted.....
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[23:09:48] <lunaphyte_> err, i meant a single address, rather.
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[23:14:38] <felix-da-catz> So how can I reprocess the 800 emails I have stuck waiting to connect to a failed dspam server?  I tried postqueue -f and it is still trying to deliver the emails to the dspam server.  Even though I removed the check_recipient_access from my smtpd_recipient_restrictions
[23:16:37] <felix-da-catz> I have of course stopped and started the postfix service after making that change.
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[23:20:39] <felix-da-catz> postsuper -r ALL
[23:20:46] <felix-da-catz> Seemed to do the trick..
[23:27:30] <sysmonk> oh no, you've removed all your emails!!!!
[23:27:34] <sysmonk> heh, just joking :P
[23:27:57] <sysmonk> everybody panicks about -r cause everbody think it stands for -r[emove] :)
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[23:36:21] <seekwill> heh
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[23:43:27] <torn> I have a question for you, but is not strictly postfix-specific. Sorry for this. Is is possible, using amavisd, to have the spamassassin process to be called with the uid and gid of the user that will receive the email message
[23:43:53] <torn> so ~/.spamassassin stuff is read and in order to use per-user bayesian databases?
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[23:54:09] <rob0> torn, with amavisd, no; with local(8) and .forward or mailbox_command, yes. But I don't have any faith in "per user spam". Spam is UBE, regardless of who receives it.
[23:56:57] <torn> but don't you think that a per-user bayesian filter will bring to a more accurate spam detection? To quote dspam's website (iirc), what about a pharmacy owner that receives non-spam emails about viagra?
[23:57:41] <torn> btw, I don't want to use mailbox_command with SA. it's too resource hungry. I'm considering it with dspam.
[23:58:07] <rob0> I think I just said, "no". Non-UBE about viagra is not spam.
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[23:59:50] <torn> ok, but I *think* that it will be very hard for a not user-trained filter to tell that that is not spam, when normally ~100% of emails that cointain the word 'viagra' are.





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