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[01:52:30] <phinuxchang> Hi
[01:53:43] <phinuxchang> I got a problem with postfix, needs your help, thanks in advance of any advices'
[01:56:01] <phinuxchang> I set up postfix as my smtp engine, I can set mail to anywhere except one domain: (aaa.com), the domain name is replaced as aaa.com
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[01:57:11] <phinuxchang> I checked the maillog, there are following information: relay=none, delay=148228, status=deferred
[01:57:55] <phinuxchang> I don't know what's the reason, I googled such error, found a solution that set "disable_dns_lookups=no" in main.cf
[01:58:06] <phinuxchang> but it didn't work
[01:59:47] <phinuxchang> any comments, please, thank you very much
[02:00:12] <mwalling> !debug
[02:00:12] <knoba> mwalling: "debug" : http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html : a good starting point for how to deal with problems and to report information to those who might help. Post your information in a pastebin such as http://pastebin.ca/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ .
[02:00:20] <mwalling> show full logs, dont obscifate
[02:00:44] <phinuxchang> ok
[02:02:04] <phinuxchang> 5BD28E6CE51: to=<username at trixan dot com>, relay=none, delay=84309, status=deferred (delivery
[02:02:05] <phinuxchang>  temporarily suspended: conversation with mx1.myriadnetwork.com[216.98.148.36] timed out while sending message body)
[02:02:50] <phinuxchang> Hi, mwalling, this is the log of deferred mail
[02:02:58] <phinuxchang> thank you, knoba
[02:04:11] <mwalling> and it works for every other site?
[02:04:27] <phinuxchang> yes, just except this one
[02:04:52] <Dominian> Looks like greylisting
[02:05:14] <mwalling> Dominian: .... no... that would have had an actual error (like a 400 code
[02:05:24] <_torn> Is there a way to make mail be passed to BOTH procmail and maildrop? mailbox_command supports only one argument...
[02:05:44] <mwalling> _torn: call maildrop from procmail?
[02:05:46] <Dominian> mwalling: well that entry he's showing us doesn't have the "code" in it..
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[02:06:09] <_torn> mwalling: that's the simplest idea, but what if an user knows one very well and not the other?
[02:06:09] <mwalling> Dominian: cause there is no code... conversation with mx1.myriadnetwork.com[216.98.148.36] timed out while sending message body
[02:06:19] <mwalling> _torn: point them to the man page
[02:06:19] <Dominian> mwalling: look at the deferred time
[02:06:28] <Dominian> mwalling: 84000+
[02:06:46] <Dominian> mwalling: that's not the original "deferred" status code.. need to have the original connection that started the deferral
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[02:06:58] <Dominian> I can hit that server via port 25
[02:07:01] <phinuxchang> BOTH? maildrop, procmail? what's that mean,
[02:07:04] <_torn> I could make them use maildrop only, that seems to be the future...
[02:07:10] <Dominian> phinuxchang: telnet mx1.myriadnetwork.com 25
[02:07:11] <phinuxchang> sorry, I am a newbie to prostfix
[02:07:13] <Dominian> does it connect?
[02:07:17] <mwalling> phinuxchang: Dominian says greylisting, i say the other end is broken
[02:07:20] <_torn> phinuxchang: yes, both.
[02:07:34] <mwalling> sister is here, need to hang pictures
[02:07:37] <_torn> phinuxchang: like if I called maildrop from procmailrc, like mwalling said
[02:07:55] <phinuxchang> yes, it works, I can conect to mx1.myriadnetwork.com 25
[02:08:32] <phinuxchang> and I run the command "dig mx trixan.com", the mail server should be mail.trixan.com in first choice
[02:09:07] <phinuxchang> I don't know why my mail server didn't connect with mail.trixan.com but mx1.myriadnetwork.com
[02:09:24] <Dominian> phinuxchang: postqueue -p
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[02:09:32] <Dominian> phinuxchang: what "status" code is it showing for that message in the queue?
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[02:10:41] <phinuxchang> status code? where can I get it?
[02:10:53] <Dominian> phinuxchang: just look at postqueue -p
[02:10:57] <Dominian> and pastebin the output
[02:12:38] <phinuxchang> username at example dot com
[02:12:39] <phinuxchang> (delivery temporarily suspended: conversation with mx1.myriadnetwork.com[216.98.148.36] timed out while sending message body)
[02:12:39] <phinuxchang>                username at trixan dot com
[02:12:39] <phinuxchang>
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[02:13:27] <Dominian> that definitely sounds like greylisting to me..
[02:13:31] <Dominian> phinuxchang: postqueue -f
[02:13:34] <Dominian> see if it goes through this time
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[02:15:21] <phinuxchang> no, I tried "postqueue -f" servral times, the same error
[02:15:33] <phinuxchang> greylisting?
[02:15:43] <Dominian> hrm
[02:15:55] <Dominian> Do you have an account on that server?
[02:16:00] <Dominian> and email accoun thtat is?
[02:17:32] <phinuxchang> no, I didn't, but I can give you one from my mate,
[02:17:37] <phinuxchang> you wanna make a test?
[02:18:21] <Dominian> sure
[02:19:02] <phinuxchang> you can send the test mail on this: nancy.chang#trixan.com
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[02:21:01] <Dominian> Its not greylisting
[02:21:08] <Dominian> my message went right through without a problem
[02:21:15] <Dominian> phinuxchang: Try sending a new message
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[02:22:13] <phinuxchang> how did you do? telnet mail.trixan.com 25 and send the mail by command?
[02:23:38] <phinuxchang> I think it ought be the configuration problem, cause I can send mail to this server through my test smtp server ( another server with postfix)
[02:24:11] * Dominian shrugs
[02:24:20] <Dominian> I sent the message using my own email server
[02:27:39] <phinuxchang> ok, I tried, but it can't work, the same error
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[02:39:08] <mwalling> Dominian: greylisting wouldnt cause a timeout within the body...
[02:39:31] <mwalling> ;)
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[02:59:59] <Dominian> mwalling: yeah I read the full error again
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[03:00:24] <Dominian> However, doesn't make sense its that server causing the problem and everything else works.. not to mention I sent an email that used the same server and it went through fine.
[03:01:01] <sysmonk> Dominian: sure, that only means one thing - you've never sent to hotmail
[03:01:02] * mwalling bets remote contentfiltering
[03:02:22] <sysmonk> Dominian: *could* be mtu problems
[03:02:31] <sysmonk> i.e. small mails go fine, big mails go *puff*
[03:02:43] * mwalling bets remote contentfiltering
[03:03:06] <mwalling> phinuxchang might be sending a big message, causes remote SA or CAV or soemthing to OOM
[03:04:01] <sysmonk> phinuxchang: don't send viruses!
[03:04:15] <sysmonk> 4am here
[03:04:24] <sysmonk> 4 more till work o_o
[03:04:33] <mwalling> heh
[03:04:39] <mwalling> going to sleep, or an all nighter?
[03:04:54] <sysmonk> i don't think i'd get up if i'd go to sleep now ...
[03:05:09] <sysmonk> atleast not at the right time :P
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[04:02:28] <chang> sorry, I am not in just now.
[04:02:33] <chang> ok, thank you guys
[04:11:39] <Dominian> sysmonk: I've sent to hotmail plenty of times
[04:12:22] <mwalling> yo0ur mom sends to hotmail
[04:12:23] <chang> hotmail?
[04:16:59] <mwalling> chang: you missed a sideshow
[04:19:15] <chang> yes, thanks
[04:20:26] <sysmonk> Dominian: it was a joke about sending to the same sender throught the same server and getting different results ;)
[04:20:38] <sysmonk> (even when the email is the same)
[04:20:43] <sysmonk> (including headers:P)
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[04:40:37] <Dominian> sysmonk: its happened to me..
[04:40:42] <Dominian> sysmonk: when they do throttling.. like yahoo does
[04:41:54] <Dominian> but yahoo throttles for stupid reasons
[04:43:27] <pickcoder> yahoo throttles because they host corporate domains on the same servers as freebie/paid webmail
[04:43:55] <sahil> yahoo == evil
[04:44:18] <sahil> they also lie about why they greylist; oftentimes saying garbage like 'delayed due to complaints'.
[04:45:09] <pickcoder> I got the truth on that one.. it has nothing to do with users. Their software automatically sends back 451's when you hit a (fairly low) level.
[04:45:27] <pickcoder> "if it continues to error out after 4 hours, let us know and we'll look into it"
[04:45:34] <sahil> if by fairly low, you mean 0 emails sent from that MX, then yes, that's true.  otherwise, rubbish.
[04:45:36] <Dominian> hehe
[04:45:43] <Dominian> I don't have enough people sending to yahoo to really give a damn.
[04:45:56] <sahil> mail always goes through so it is just a rubbish greylist implementation with poor notice for admins to debug via logs.
[04:46:05] * sahil nods
[04:46:36] <Dominian> not poor.. lazy is more like it
[04:46:37] <pickcoder> what it is, is a PITA for companies that send a lot of legit e-mail
[04:46:52] <Dominian> Yahoo and Hotmail have the attitude of "we are big;  you do what we say" type crap
[04:47:04] <sahil> no one follows that.
[04:47:13] <Dominian> heh nope
[04:47:25] <Dominian> I'll stop sending/accepting from them
[04:47:30] <sahil> gmail is heading there too, especially since spam now *originates* from their servers.
[04:47:35] <Dominian> with a rejejct code "You may be big, bug I can block yo ass"
[04:47:47] <sahil> Dominian: we can't quite be that draconian. :P  there are enough people who would get pissed here.
[04:47:56] <Dominian> sahil: heh I can though
[04:48:12] <sahil> Dominian: do you admin a personal server then?
[04:49:17] <Dominian> one personal and one ISP
[04:49:22] <Dominian> the personal one I would block on
[04:49:28] <Dominian> the other.. I just delay their email in return
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[06:35:06] <korozion> I have a situration where I've changed from one mail server to another, however some email will still head to the old one for a short period of time.  Can I change my existing config to just forward mail off to another box for now?
[06:36:49] <Dominian> !soft_bounce
[06:36:50] <knoba> Dominian: "soft_bounce" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Safety net to keep mail queued that would otherwise be returned to the sender. This parameter disables locally-generated bounces, and prevents the Postfix SMTP server from rejecting mail permanently, by changing 5xx reply codes into 4xx. However, soft_bounce is no cure for address rewriting mistakes or mail routing mistakes.
[06:37:53] <korozion> hrm, so that would be a decent temoprary solution?
[06:38:10] <Dominian> I've used it
[06:38:20] <Dominian> when moving mail servers.. just enable soft_bounce.. then update DNS.
[06:38:28] <korozion> nice
[06:38:30] <Dominian> give it a day or so to finish propogating.. then kill the server all together
[06:38:40] <korozion> that's _exactly_ what I need
[06:38:51] <korozion> do I just add soft_bounce to my main.cf then?
[06:39:01] <Dominian> eventually.. the old server will begin "pushing" mail to the new record.. as long as it isn't the endpoint destination for any email that arrives
[06:39:26] <korozion> oh, soft_bounce = yes in main.cf
[06:39:34] <Dominian> yah
[06:39:46] <korozion> but will that tell the old mail server to bounce everything?
[06:40:16] <Dominian> it'll bounce anything that hasn't alrady been delivered to the old server
[06:40:30] <korozion> oh
[06:40:40] <korozion> soft_bounce should go on the new server?
[06:40:47] <Dominian> no soft_bounce on the old server
[06:40:51] <korozion> ok
[06:40:54] <Dominian> soft_boune will give temp fails to anything incoming
[06:41:01] <korozion> ahhhh ok
[06:41:03] <Dominian> and once DNS updates.. those should deliver to the correct server
[06:41:16] <Dominian> anyuway.. bed time
[06:41:19] <korozion> so I don't need to remove all the accounts from the old server, soft_bounce will just bounce things for me?
[06:41:27] <Dominian> it should yes
[06:41:30] <Dominian> that's what it is there for
[06:41:32] <korozion> excellent, thank you
[06:41:33] <Dominian> :)
[06:41:34] <korozion> :)
[06:41:35] <Dominian> np
[06:42:01] <korozion> all spam this time of night anyway :)
[06:42:21] <korozion> DISCARD(bounce.suppressed)
[06:42:25] <korozion> you are the man :D
[06:42:29] <korozion> thanks again, and good night
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[08:25:35] <cite> jeev: I think I'm about seven hours befor you, as far as local time is concerned. So no, I wasn't there but asleep already ;)
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[08:44:36] <Nodlehs> I am running postfix and no matter what I set my smtp.conf too it seems to want to look to auth in "unable to open Berkeley db /etc/sasldb2", could someone possibly point me in the right direction? I have done some searching and made changes to try pam, etc, but no luck
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[08:54:01] <f3ew> smtpd.conf ?
[08:54:11] <f3ew> Are you creating it in the right place?
[08:55:32] <Nodlehs> /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf
[08:57:15] <Nodlehs> in /etc/postfix/main.cf I have smtpd_sasl_path = /etc/postfix/sasl:/usr/lib/sasl2
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[09:03:27] <f3ew> hmmm
[09:03:46] <f3ew> have you tried creating it in /usr/lib/sasl2?
[09:04:00] <f3ew> If this is Slackware, it's /usr/local/lib/sasl2/
[09:04:10] <Nodlehs> It is ubuntu
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[09:06:31] <Nodlehs> Same error if I put the smtp.conf in /usr/lib/sasl2 (which is where the lib files are located)
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[11:03:56] <n215> warning: SASL: Connect to /var/spool/postfix failed: No such file or directory
[11:04:14] <n215> I have install postfix with sasl2 support
[11:04:18] <n215> *installed
[11:04:24] <roe_> what distro
[11:04:54] <n215> postfix-2.5.1p0-sasl2
[11:04:57] <n215> on openbsd
[11:05:19] <roe_> are you running postfix chrooted?
[11:05:24] <n215> no
[11:06:02] <n215> i mean there is no private/auth folder
[11:06:10] <n215> there is private but there is not auth folder in it
[11:06:24] <n215> so I changed to /var/spool/postfix but didnt work either
[11:06:46] <roe_> nor mine
[11:07:27] <roe_> er, I have a private folder in var/spool/postfix
[11:08:21] <n215> I have too
[11:08:35] <n215> but there is no auth
[11:08:47] <roe_> are you expecting one?
[11:08:53] <n215> yes
[11:08:56] <n215> do you have one?
[11:08:58] <roe_> no
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[11:41:40] <cipherz> hello, a policy filter, when is that called by postfix ? I thought that (according to http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_POLICY_README.html , no?), that it is called after each protocol state
[11:42:00] <cipherz> I mean after mail from: its called, after each rcpt to:, after data-start and after data-end e.g.
[11:44:05] <shasta> no, it's "called" every time you use "check_policy_service <path>" in your restrictions
[11:45:39] <cipherz> ahh so if I have it added to smtpd_recipient_restriction it is called on all rcpt to's and nothing else (assuming I dont have it added any where else in my main.cf) ?
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[11:51:07] <mija> hi @ all
[11:51:15] <mija> is there any way to resend all bounced mails?
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[11:53:53] <cipherz> mija, like re-inject them into the queue or ?
[11:54:03] <mija> yes
[11:54:12] <mija> becauese one of our customers
[11:54:18] <mija> had a mailserver problem
[11:54:25] <roe_> the messages have been bounced or deferred?
[11:54:25] <mija> the messages are bounced
[11:54:31] <mija> bounced
[11:54:43] <mija> is there any way to get this mails
[11:54:54] <roe_> I would be surprised to know that you can re-queue bounced messages.
[11:55:10] <cipherz> mija, try postqueue -p to view queue and postqueue -f to flush it all , otherwise see man postqueue for options
[11:55:23] <roe_> cipherz, they aren't in the queue anymore if they have been bounced
[11:55:36] <mija> it menas mail queue is empty
[11:55:39] <mija> ;(
[11:55:43] <mija> that i have already tryed
[11:55:52] <cipherz> roe_, touche, misunderstood the question I suppose :) thought they were in queue and the server kept attempting to resend
[11:56:13] <cipherz> so much for reckoning that one cup of morning coffee was enough :\
[11:56:42] <roe_> mija, it is a double edged sword, on the one hand *you* can't resend them, on the other, senders should have gotten notification that their message was not sent successfully
[11:57:19] <mija> :(
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[11:57:44] <roe_> get your customer a better mail admin ;)
[11:58:04] <mija> mail admin is swisscom... a swiss provider
[11:58:05] <mija> gg
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[12:18:58] <bjorn`> Good mornin'
[12:24:21] <bjorn`> I've got this simple yet critical issue i was hoping to get help with; I recently made an attempt on making sasl authentication work. but in that process i seem to have opened smtp relay access for everyone. and right now i'm too narrowminded to see where the error is. Might someone help me point out what needs to be fixed/changed? Pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/1072223
[12:28:23] <roe_> gonna need your master.cf
[12:28:49] <roe_> actually nm
[12:28:52] <roe_> I think I see it
[12:32:30] <roe_> nope, don't see it
[12:34:49] <roe_> what makes you think you are an open relay?
[12:36:22] <roe_> the only weirdness I see is that you have localhost listed under relay_domains
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[12:52:41] <bjorn`> roe_: i.. simply can send mail from whoever to whoever through it
[12:52:48] <bjorn`> hold on, lemme fetch master.cf
[12:53:06] <roe_> and you are not authenticating?
[12:54:46] <bjorn`> nope.
[12:57:54] <bjorn`> http://pastebin.ca/1072243 <- ?
[12:58:29] <bjorn`> http://pastebin.ca/1072241 <- master.cf
[13:01:16] <dragonheart> bjorn`: i'm guessing you're testing from a $my_networks location
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[13:07:37] <_apk> hi! :)
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[13:08:49] <_apk> does anyone know what this error i'm seeing in my log is referred to? "(host xxx.xxx.com[IP]) refused to talk to me: 421 4.0.0 Intrusion prevention active for [my IP]
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[13:23:10] <cpm> _apk, looks like host xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx isn't too sure it likes you very much. gave a 421 (call back later)
[13:23:27] <_apk> yes I understood that!
[13:24:06] <_apk> I think that this is some kind of personalized error message...I cannot find information about it on google
[13:24:20] <_apk> maybe I have to contact the postmaster
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[13:36:11] <rob0> "Refused to talk" means the banner had that message in place of a valid [E]SMTP banner, and the host disconnected before your HELO. Typically it means a firewall is blocking you.
[13:42:31] <_apk> oh thank you for the explanation rob0 :)
[13:42:45] * cpm explains to rob0
[13:44:55] <cpm> that _apk is probably still going to have to contact the postmaster, find out what's up. *if* he wants the mail to go through.
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[15:08:27] <contraventor> hi
[15:08:41] <contraventor> how block with header_check the Mail From: ?
[15:10:06] <cpm>  /^From:.* at domain dot tld/ REJECT piss off
[15:10:50] <cpm> that's a regexp
[15:12:21] <roe_> also good therapy?
[15:12:29] <cpm> quite
[15:12:38] <tct> hello i am not able to send mail from my email client, evolution, to one of the accounts on my mail server
[15:13:07] <tct> i tried squirrelmail and it works but not with evolution
[15:14:04] <tct> squirrelmail requires no authentication for smtp nor tls encryption since it is installed on localhost
[15:14:39] <tct> squirrelmail successfully sends on port 25
[15:15:12] <tct> i tried with evolution on both port 25 and 587 with login authentication
[15:16:20] <tct> when i look to mail.log i see nothing about postfix/master [smtp] but only courier-imap
[15:16:49] <tct> I believe the login request doesn't reach the server
[15:18:15] <tct> but i don't understand why... i enabled both ports 25 and 587 in the firewall (shorewall) configuration file rules
[15:19:01] <tct> i followed this tutorial to set TLS encryption http://flurdy.com/docs
[15:19:15] <tct> can anyone help me?
[15:19:58] <tct> http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/index.html#config-secure-crypt
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[15:23:33] <tct> :)
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[15:50:45] <bdubnc> I don't know if this is where my question needs asked.  I am currently hosting my company mail on a postfix+dovecot server.  We now are going to move to exchange.  I have read every howto on this and I am stuck.  I am virtual hosting 4 domains.  When you send mail to one of these domains, I need for the postfix box to double check if there is a user and keep the mail there.  If there is no user, send it to the exchange server.  Is
[15:50:45] <bdubnc> there an easy howto on to accomplish this.  Thanks!
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[15:55:24] <sysmonk> hah
[15:55:24] <sysmonk> nice one
[15:55:27] <sysmonk> http://www.devtopics.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/comic.jpg
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[15:58:26] <bdubnc> That was a good one sysmonk
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[16:39:37] <bdubnc> Hi, anyone, know the answer or where I can find an answer to my problem?  Thanks1
[16:42:08] <cpm> lemme get this straight, are you asking a postfix channel how to migrate to exchange?
[16:44:21] <seekwill> everyone is doin it...
[16:45:02] <cpm> doing which?
[16:45:33] <seekwill> Migrate from what?
[16:45:59] <cpm> I thought that was a brilliant coup on behalf of MS, to come up with such a nice license for the messaging API for the iPhone :)
[16:46:45] <cpm> seekwill, the guy said he was on postfix+dovecot and was moving to exchange.
[16:46:54] <seekwill> oh
[16:47:10] <cpm> wanted a howto.
[16:47:13] <seekwill> I'd do that too if I had exchange.
[16:47:15] <cpm> fail
[16:47:28] <seekwill> If only dovecot had MSDN...
[16:47:31] <cpm> do which? migrate to exchange?
[16:47:40] <seekwill> Sure
[16:47:43] <cpm> why
[16:47:58] <seekwill> There's not a better product for groupware?
[16:48:11] <cpm> fair.
[16:48:15] <seekwill> Zimbra is close
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[16:48:30] <cpm> http://www.jwz.org/doc/groupware.html
[16:48:34] <seekwill> I'm talking LEGIT reasons for Exchange...
[16:49:04] <cpm> if what you want is exchange, there is no substitute.
[16:49:23] <dragonheart> anyone compared it to kolab?
[16:49:34] <cpm> compared what?
[16:50:36] <seekwill> Unfortunately, to compare with Exchange, a lot of times you need to be well known, not just have a "better" product.
[16:50:56] <seekwill> Corporate market is... difficult
[16:51:23] <cpm> seekwill, actually no. The holy grail of a 'dropin' replacement for exchange using free software has been sought for many years. It has not been accomplished.
[16:51:44] <dragonheart> damn moving goalposts
[16:51:52] <cpm> dragonheart, yup.
[16:52:17] <dragonheart> though open source is more about producing a good product that being defined by others
[16:52:18] <cpm> at the end of the day, if you want to support *all* the features of Outlook/exchange, what you need to use is Outlook/exchange.
[16:52:21] <dragonheart> imo
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[16:52:55] <seekwill> dragonheart: Eh...
[16:53:28] <seekwill> A "good product" determined by the author's perspective, and his will/resources
[16:54:26] * seekwill does not use Exchange, nor cares to...
[16:54:43] <bdubnc> Damn, sorry, walked away, no my company has mandated that we move from postfix to exchange.  No exceptions.  But what I am wanting todo is not to move totally from postfix.  Keep a good majority of the users on postfix and move the whiney ones over to exchange
[16:55:18] <seekwill> You won't want to do that... Just completely move to Exchange :)
[16:55:24] <cpm> I'd go find another job.
[16:55:30] <lunaphyte_> agreed.
[16:55:35] * cpm agrees with seekwill
[16:55:45] <bdubnc> another company would be great i the job market wasn't so bad
[16:55:51] <seekwill> Whether or not YOU will be the postmaster is a different story, but you don't want a mixed env like that
[16:55:56] <cpm> apply an SEP field. Making that the new admins problem.
[16:56:02] <seekwill> The job market is bad?
[16:56:10] <cpm> where is the job market bad?
[16:56:32] <lunaphyte_> mmichigan.
[16:56:32] * cpm offers his job up to bdubnc
[16:56:39] <cpm> yeah, kinda tight there.
[16:56:39] <lunaphyte_> michigan, even.
[16:56:49] <bdubnc> well, I am in burlington, nc.  My fiance is disabled, I am filing chapter 7, and I can't drive more than an hour because the gas prices would eat me alive.
[16:56:52] <seekwill> You do my job, as me, and I'll give you 30% of my salary. How about that?
[16:56:56] <bdubnc> Sorry my wife
[16:57:01] <seekwill> oh
[16:57:33] <bdubnc> yeah, so what I have no I have to have, I don't have a choice an no company is offering relocation because they are hurting like everyone else
[16:57:55] <seekwill> Depends on your resume
[16:58:02] <seekwill> What kind of job are you looking for?
[16:58:36] <bdubnc> So pretty much, I have to make some stupid fucking thing with I have about 10 years of linux, but thanks to Billy Boy and microshaft pretty much poisoning the corporate high ups in the area, I can't find anything
[16:58:57] <seekwill> Are you a postfix guru?
[16:59:47] <bdubnc> I have been using and administering postfix for about 2 years.  I have been a DBA of sometype for about 3 years and I have been administering environments in either Redhat or CentOS for about 5 years
[17:00:07] <seekwill> Hmm
[17:00:11] <cpm> there is a Exchange Migration Wizard. that will work with maildirs
[17:00:24] <seekwill> Email me your resume. will at digitaldev dot com (That's my personal email, not the company I work for...)
[17:00:40] <cpm> just migrate it over, call it done. Don't try to administer 2 different systems, that's just making it hard on yourself.
[17:00:51] <bdubnc> Ok will, I'll send that to you
[17:01:06] <seekwill> bdubnc: Willing to relocate a little north of there?
[17:01:42] <bdubnc> Well, here is the funny thing, I'm originally from West Virginia and my wife is from New Jersey
[17:02:02] <bdubnc> So, we kind of Yankee's in this damn state's mind
[17:02:28] <seekwill> Oh, that might be a good thing :)
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[17:03:06] <bdubnc> lmao, yes it would be.  I use to work for a company based in baltimore and workd out of ohio.  My first linux job
[17:03:33] <seekwill> Send me your resume, and we'll talk offline.
[17:03:52] <bdubnc> Ok, I'll get that to you within the next few hours.
[17:03:56] <seekwill> SUre
[17:06:48] <seekwill> I wonder if people are going to spam me now that I posted my email :/
[17:07:01] <seekwill> You know, since EVERYONE seems to not want to share that...
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[17:07:34] <lunaphyte_> since you posted your address, i've been using it to enter giveaways.
[17:07:38] <bdubnc> Ok will, it's done you should have something.  Thanks!
[17:07:55] <seekwill> lunaphyte_: Well, I hope I win something!
[17:08:13] <bdubnc> Going to hope off here and bitch a little at the exchange environment idea, lol.  Later guys
[17:08:17] <lunaphyte_> everybody goes home a winner with me.
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[17:08:48] <cpm> seekwill, you've got mail!
[17:09:10] <seekwill> cpm: :P
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[17:28:31] <AviN2> I am using Postfix 2.2 and Cyrus IMAP 2.2. I would like to make use of the singleinstancestore in Cyrus IMAP, since it would greatly reduce the amount of storage needed when users send large attachments to internal mailing lists. Unfortunately it appears I cannot do this if I use mailbox_transport -- I must use local_transport instead. And, if I use local_transport, I can't have an aliases map. I already use a virtual alias map for aliases, but the proble
[17:28:31] <AviN2> m is I do still have an alias map I use to pipe messages to scripts. Can anyone enlighten me how I could use both singleinstancestore in Cyrus IMAP and continue using this piping function that alias maps provides?
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[17:55:14] <seekwill> cpm: Sendmail?
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[17:57:17] <cpm> can haz sendmail?
[17:57:19] <cpm> :)
[17:58:09] <seekwill> no can haz sendmail
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[18:11:45] <faxON> hallo
[18:12:02] 
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[18:44:25] <cpm> !basic
[18:44:25] <knoba> cpm: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[18:44:52] <faxON> thx
[18:46:16] <cpm> Good place to start, nicht zu doof
[18:46:18] <cpm> :)
[18:46:39] <jduggan> heh
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[18:47:20] <cpm> es ist schwierig
[18:47:59] <faxON> jib ;(
[18:52:01] <faxON> cpm?
[18:52:08] <faxON> kannste mir dahelfen evntuell :/?
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[18:53:22] <faxON> hab des noch nie gemacht hab da echt meine probleme bei
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[18:57:30] <faxON> lol
[18:57:31] <faxON> ^^
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[19:13:02] <cpm> Wow, I just stuffed that into babelfish, and either babelfish is insane, or I really suck worse than I thought, which is already pretty bad.
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[19:13:32] * cpm really needs to go back to Germany for a while.
[19:17:02] <AviN2> OK, I converted the aliases to pipe scripts. I think this should provide a workaround.
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[19:30:53] <rob0> !vice-versa
[19:30:53] <knoba> rob0: "vice-versa" : adv : with the order reversed; on the contrary; on opposite sides. eg: 'rob0 loathes cpm and vice-versa'
[19:31:01] <rob0> !seen vice-versa
[19:31:02] <knoba> rob0: vice-versa was last seen in #postfix 1 week, 3 days, 21 hours, 26 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <vice-versa> I would prefer to have a recipients lists extracted from the AD data and pushed to the MTA myself
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[19:33:36] <seekwill> !seen rob0
[19:33:37] <knoba> seekwill: rob0 was last seen in #postfix 2 minutes and 34 seconds ago: <rob0> !seen vice-versa
[19:34:57] <cpm> !seen knoba
[19:34:58] <knoba> cpm: I have not seen knoba.
[19:35:02] <cpm> liar!
[19:35:14] <mwalling> !seen my pants
[19:35:14] <knoba> mwalling: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself.
[19:35:24] <mwalling> take that as a no
[19:35:30] * cpm chuckles
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[20:14:24] <chetan> we've got an mail server that relays to exchange internally and * externally. trying to get it to relay mail to other internal servers via user at box dot internal.domain.com. created an max for box.internal.domain.com but that doesn't seem to be enough
[20:14:36] <chetan> s/max/mx/
[20:14:45] <chetan> what am i missing here?
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[20:32:21] <chetan> figured it out. subdomain matching
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[20:59:24] <Dantix> hi all, I need my Postfix to auth aginst 2 mysql server databases, is it possible?
[20:59:33] <Dantix> *against
[21:01:52] <cpm> ?>
[21:02:06] <cpm> example?
[21:03:06] <Dantix> cpm is that for me?
[21:03:14] <cpm> yup
[21:03:39] <Dantix> I need to have a sort of high availability on authentication
[21:04:01] <cpm> how are you authenticating now?
[21:04:02] <Dantix> so when one of mysql server fails postfix have a chance to check the other
[21:04:29] <cpm> you might look at high availability mysql, rather than trying to be clever in postfix, eh?
[21:04:50] <Dantix> sorry, I've said authenticate, I should say get virtual user maps from mysql
[21:05:10] <rob0> ahhhhh
[21:05:19] <rob0> that makes a difference
[21:05:22] <Dantix> currently I'm using dovecot to authenticate...
[21:05:38] <cpm> still, same same. But yes, you can look at different servers
[21:05:51] <rob0> Simply set your virtual_whatever_maps to use more than one query.
[21:06:06] <cpm> yup
[21:06:11] <Dantix> not adding several hosts to .cf file?
[21:06:25] <cpm> but again, I think you are *really* looking for high availability in your mysql.
[21:07:19] <cpm> virtual_whatever_maps mysql:/path/to/a/query, mysql:/some/other/path/to/a/different/query
[21:07:27] <cpm> is fine
[21:08:32] <Dantix> c0m: ok, I plan to have a master-slave mysql schema, so in thi way have a HA solution
[21:08:39] <rob0> note that the queries will be done in order, so a match in the first means the second is skipped.
[21:09:11] <rob0> you could probably also do this on the db level, but I don't know how.
[21:10:00] <Dantix> rob0: but if the first fails, Postfix should check the second, isn't it?
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[21:12:03] <Dantix> thanks a lot to all, bye
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[23:36:46] <Captain> anybody knows how to stop sending mails with virtual_transport_maps if any match was found in transport_maps
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[23:50:53] <Nodlehs> In setting up my postfix with sasl for outgoing mail I seem to have to add my domain to smtpd_sasl_local_domain in main.cf, however, all the tutorials I have read on it leave that blank. Am I missing something? It works if I put my domain in there but not if I leave it blank (I only put one of the domains I am hosting on the same machine)
[23:51:57] <Nodlehs> I have virtual domains set up in mysql as well
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