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[00:55:08] <unseensoul> is it possible to set up an email server for email delivery purposes only without a registered domain?
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[01:08:03] <unseensoul> can I set an email server up for email delivery only without having a domain?
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[01:21:08] <jpalmer> unseensoul: you *can* yes, it's just not favorable.  many systems will look at generic rdns, or programatically created rdns,  and consider your mails to be spam.  secondly,  your ISP might have your IP listed in one of the "should never send mail" style blacklists.
[01:21:27] <jpalmer> so  short answer: yes.  long answer:  most wouldn't recommend it.
[01:23:39] <unseensoul> jpalmer: so while configuring jpalmer I can fake all the data, right?
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[01:28:29] <mwalling>  delivery as in you are the originating site for mail heading to the general internet? or delivery as in local use (only within your site)
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[01:32:58] <unseensoul> the first one
[01:33:21] <mwalling> !relayhost
[01:33:22] <knoba> mwalling: "relayhost" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The default host to send non-local mail to when no entry is matched in the optional transport(5) table. When no relayhost is given, mail is routed directly to the destination.
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[01:49:07] <unseensoul> it doesn't work :s
[01:50:57] <unseensoul> http://rafb.net/p/wj4kzf26.html
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[01:56:38] <frato> hello erverbody
[01:57:09] <frato> i have this error in my logs and i cant send and recieve messages : Command died with status 80: "/usr/lib/dovecot/deliver")
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[01:58:54] <cgibin> hello, Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently: 554 554 5.7.1 Relay access denied (state 14).
[02:00:05] <cgibin> sending from gmail gives me that info, sending to gmail it works
[02:09:39] <cgibin> any ideas how i can fix this ?
[02:09:46] <cgibin> thank you
[02:17:56] <jeev> xpoint: what do you suggest i use to manage my quarantine? i'd like to through it weekly to verify
[02:18:20] <jeev> shit, i recall something from last time
[02:21:35] <rob0> !relay_denied
[02:21:36] <knoba> rob0: "relay_denied" : \"554 5.7.1 <RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN>: Relay access denied; from=<SENDER_ADDRESS> to=<RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN> proto=ESMTP helo=<HELO>\": This typically means that CLIENT_IP is not in mynetworks (and did not AUTH), and that RCPT_DOMAIN was not recognized as one of this Postfix's domains (not listed in mydestination, relay_domains or virtual_*_domains).
[02:23:31] <jeev> rob0, any idea what he said "<cite> OTOH, setting up amavisd-new, spamassassin and find a web frontend for sql quarantine only takes like, two hours."
[02:23:37] <jeev> or what he meant? went through last months logs..
[02:23:43] <jeev> i need to find the front end 0_o
[02:23:46] <jeev> or back end isn't it?
[02:23:49] <jeev> or i dunno
[02:25:05] <jeev> oh he's here
[02:26:05] <rob0> It's pretty late there, 02:26 CET.
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[02:26:53] <jeev> hm
[02:27:00] <jeev> doesn't help that cite has been idle over 3 weeks..
[02:27:32] <jeev> mailzu!
[02:30:44] <rdavila_> Hi friends
[02:31:10] <rdavila_> I've a litle problem with postix when I want send mail with my MUA
[02:31:24] <rdavila_> I can only send mail from inside the server
[02:31:42] <rdavila_> Here are my config and log: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/27182
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[02:31:53] <rdavila_> please, any ideas?
[02:44:16] <rob0> telnet: connect to address 216.34.94.184: Connection timed out
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[02:46:04] <rob0> Anyway, the logs posted do not illustrate the problem as described. In fact they are not a problem at ALL, it just says that you upgraded without reading the release notes.
[02:47:32] <rob0> Also, you apparently followed some outdated HOWTO, because check_relay_domains was deprecated before Ubuntu GNU/Linux even existed.
[02:49:14] <thumbs> heh
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[02:57:47] <mwalling> !relayhost
[02:57:48] <knoba> mwalling: "relayhost" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The default host to send non-local mail to when no entry is matched in the optional transport(5) table. When no relayhost is given, mail is routed directly to the destination.
[02:57:53] <mwalling> hmm
[02:58:04] * mwalling is gathering links for a forum flame ;)
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[03:00:25] <thumbs> mwalling: flaming's bad, mmmkay?
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[03:02:26] <mwalling> thumbs: forum noobs are worse, mmmkay?
[03:04:36] <thumbs> hey, no need to flame me! :/
[03:04:42] <thumbs> ok, enough puns
[03:07:23] <mwalling> heh
[03:09:59] <cgibin> !relay_denied
[03:10:00] <knoba> cgibin: "relay_denied" : \"554 5.7.1 <RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN>: Relay access denied; from=<SENDER_ADDRESS> to=<RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN> proto=ESMTP helo=<HELO>\": This typically means that CLIENT_IP is not in mynetworks (and did not AUTH), and that RCPT_DOMAIN was not recognized as one of this Postfix's domains (not listed in mydestination, relay_domains or virtual_*_domains).
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[03:35:50] <cgibin> rob0, thank you, i had some issue with my dns, however i just fixed it now it works fine had to input this infos forgot
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[09:24:35] <cite> jeev: It was Mailzu, indeed.
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[09:38:24] <skyion> Hi Guys
[09:38:30] <skyion> in Postfix header checks
[09:39:07] <skyion> is it possible to reject mail from person1 to someone at domain dot com
[09:39:21] <skyion> but allow person2 to someone at domain dot com
[09:40:21] <skyion> most of the url regex statements only have one variable that I can see...
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[09:42:27] <skyion> :\
[09:43:56] <sysmonk> skyion: only with restriction classess
[09:43:59] <sysmonk> !restriction_classes
[09:44:00] <knoba> sysmonk: Error: "restriction_classes" is not a valid command.
[09:44:02] <sysmonk> !restriction_classess
[09:44:02] <knoba> sysmonk: Error: "restriction_classess" is not a valid command.
[09:44:04] <sysmonk> blah
[09:44:27] <sysmonk> !restriction_class
[09:44:28] <knoba> sysmonk: "restriction_class" : postfix per-client/user/etc. access control http://www.postfix.org/RESTRICTION_CLASS_README.html
[09:44:31] <sysmonk> here it is :P
[09:44:34] <sysmonk> skyion: ^^
[09:54:13] <skyion> hmmm
[09:54:17] <skyion> thanks sysmonk.
[09:55:49] <skyion> I think that the howto is for a scenario of keeping certain userts internal only.
[09:57:58] <cite> Sure, but you can adapt it.
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[11:34:46] <Kako> hi, do anybody know if there is there a mail-header where I can define where mail-daemon-emails should be send (or additionaly send) to?
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[11:37:44] <f3ew> no
[11:37:53] <f3ew> you could set notify_classes
[11:40:53] <Kako> notify_classes? you mean define what mailer-daemon emails my server send out? But I whant to define where mailer-daemon emails from _other_ servers (send to me) should be send to.
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[11:43:31] <Kako> my problem is, wwwrun is sending emails with a defined an known "FROM" header, but the mailer-daemon emails are always send to wwwrun. An the emails there are "missplaced"
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[13:39:09] <n215> who should be the owner of /usr/local/sbin/postqueue
[13:39:16] <n215> and /usr/local/sbin/postdrop
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[13:42:02] <f3ew> postfix set-permissions
[13:42:59] * sysmonk be you master. me be owner postqueue
[13:43:11] <sysmonk> heil f3ew
[13:43:46] <jelly> sysmonk: are you the keymaster?
[13:43:58] <sysmonk> me be master. me no key
[13:43:59] <sysmonk> ;)
[13:44:11] <sysmonk> me only ssl key mastah! :)
[13:44:31] <cpm> sysmonk is the gatekeeper
[13:44:43] <cpm> you cannot win sysmonk, if you strike me down now, , ,
[13:45:46] * sysmonk digs around sshguard, anyone uses it for blocking smtp ?
[13:46:25] <cpm> not i
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[13:57:15] <f3ew> heh
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[14:16:00] <q-tip> Guys can I remove the replyto line from recieved mail or replace it after rewritting the From: address ?
[14:17:49] <xpoint> q-tip, see header tests
[14:17:59] <q-tip> ok ill check thanks
[14:18:23] <xpoint> q-tip, /^Reply-To/ IGNORE
[14:18:46] <xpoint> just remember maillist use this
[14:19:32] <q-tip> xpoint, I re write a from address (with permission of sender) this works ok but I have the reply to address as the original so it gets messy, I only wish to do this with one address
[14:20:30] <xpoint> its simplier to remove the reply-to in mua
[14:21:22] <q-tip> mua ? you mean the sender ?? I shall ask them if it is possible its an automatic report we have so not sure if they will let us but no harm in asking ;)
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[14:41:30] <Tardalicious> How can I route bounced email to a script?
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[14:43:52] <adaptr> first you'd need to explain why you would want to do such a silly thing
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[14:49:32] <f3ew> adaptr to manage list subscriptions
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[14:51:55] <torn> hello. One straight question: is there a restriction that that returns OK if a client is using TLS? I'd like to skip all the spam checking stuff if we're on TLS.
[14:52:08] <torn> Is there anything I can add to my smtpd_recipient_restrictions?
[14:52:57] <n215> (delivery failed to mailbox /var/mail/vhosts/1tv.ge/admin: unable to create lock file /var/mail/vhosts/1tv.ge/admin.lock: Permission denied)
[14:53:26] <n215> it looks like that command virtual runs under root
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[15:17:30] <torn> no idea?
[15:23:02] <f3ew> torn permit_tls_authenticated?
[15:24:09] <f3ew> Alternatively, use a policy daemon which checks for the existence of a SSL certificate and returns OK
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[15:25:39] <f3ew> permit_tls_all_clientcerts
[15:25:47] <f3ew> permit_tls_clientcerts
[15:26:14] <torn> thank you, i'm looking at that options in the manual pages
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[15:28:04] <torn> postconf's manpage warns me:
[15:28:06] <torn> Permit the request when the remote SMTP client certificate is verified successfully. This option must be used only if a special CA issues the certificates and only this CA is listed as trusted CA, otherwise all clients with a recognized certificate would be allowed to relay.
[15:28:29] <torn> but if I put the restriction AFTER reject_unauth_destination I should be safe, right?
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[15:32:31] <n215> does anybody know any documentation about dovecot+postfix
[15:33:05] <f3ew> torn, yes
[15:33:11] <f3ew> n215 google?
[15:34:48] <F6F> well now can anyone give me the adress of an english smaltalk channel to improve my skills?
[15:34:56] <F6F> (in English???)
[15:38:11] <icewaterman> F6F: to improve your english skills, view some television. dont go into channels first, it will screw your language skills even more than televions will :D
[15:38:30] <icewaterman> grrml
[15:38:33] <icewaterman> television
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[15:48:19] <FluxboXtremist> hey, im having problems setup my postfix on fbsd
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[15:48:25] <FluxboXtremist> its listen on stmps not on smtp port
[15:49:14] <cpm> FluxboXtremist, review your master.cf
[15:49:21] <cpm> !basic
[15:49:22] <knoba> cpm: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[15:49:35] <FluxboXtremist> ok
[15:49:40] <FluxboXtremist> thx let me read
[16:03:26] <icewaterman> FluxboXtremist: you can use it on both ports at the same time without any problems.
[16:05:04] <FluxboXtremist> mmm
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[16:16:17] <dragonheart> postfix 2.3.8 doesn't seem to be passing the remote IP to dovecot via SASL anyone know off hand if its in the later versions?
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[17:14:44] <jacekowski> hi
[17:15:23] <jacekowski> is it possible to have one postfix with two different /etc/aliases files ( one for e-mails incoming from local subnet, and one for internet)
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[17:15:32] <jacekowski> or maybe, how?
[17:15:54] <jacekowski> i was thinking about chrooting postfix into two separate chroots
[17:16:13] <jacekowski> but that probably isn't the best solution
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[17:24:53] <f3ew> Why?
[17:27:14] <Dominian> yeah that's a bit.. nuts
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[17:32:14] <f3ew> jacekowski why?
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[18:43:49] <gpled> please help me trouble shoot a strange network problem.  can not connect to port 25 at mail.march.com from some servers, but can from others.  can you run a trace route to mail.vmarch.com, and tell me what you get as the last 3 hop ip's?
[18:44:16] <gpled> thinking xo.net is messing something up
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[18:49:24] <gpled> anyone awake ?
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[18:50:36] <torn> hello. Is there away, using *local* transport, to use a map that specifies that some users receive mail mbox format and others in maildir?
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[18:53:22] <_torn> I don't see why shouldn't one be there :)
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[18:58:59] <f3ew> _torn virtual_mailbox_maps?
[18:59:01] <f3ew> oh wait
[18:59:07] <f3ew> Just use procmail or maildrop
[18:59:12] <f3ew> or dovecot's deliver
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[19:19:04] <Bertl> greetings! I have a somewhat older (postfix 2.5.1/cyrus 2.3.11) setup, and I would like to do automatic 'out of office/vacation' replies ... I think procmail might be a good choice here, but I have no idea how to integrat that with postfix/cyrus delivery. any suggestions?
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[19:37:08] <kapowaz> hello there. I'd like to set up a rule with postfix to get it to bounce mails from a specific domain, ideally with a custom error message. Can anyone suggest what I need to do to get that setup?
[19:45:09] <cpm> are you sure bounce is what you want? bounce conditions are specific
[19:45:21] <cpm> reject perhaps?
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[19:54:46] <F6F> thx icewaterman
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[20:08:52] * rob0 rejects cpm
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[20:09:17] * cpm pouts
[20:16:10] <kapowaz> cpm: sorry, went afk
[20:16:22] <kapowaz> I'm not sure what the technical distinction between bounce and reject is
[20:16:42] <kapowaz> basically I wish to get no notification of the mail having arrived at my end, but I want the original sender to receive the email back
[20:16:51] <kapowaz> along with suitable message
[20:17:16] <kapowaz> (basically it's a recruitment agency who despite repeated requests simply won't listen to me asking them to stop sending me crap)
[20:17:25] <cpm> someone sends an email to an address at a domain handled by your mail server, your mail server accepts it, and fails -for whatever reason- to deliver it to the final recipient, issues a bounce.
[20:17:46] <cpm> someone sends an email to an address at a domain handled by your mail server, you don't want it, you reject it, never accepting it.
[20:17:50] <cpm> that's the difference.
[20:18:06] <cpm> !cheatsheet
[20:18:07] <knoba> cpm: "cheatsheet" : http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt : A HOWTO for pre-DATA spam control.
[20:18:16] <cpm> kapowaz, read ^^^^^
[20:18:37] <kapowaz> cool, thanks
[20:18:43] <kapowaz> so it's reject I want, rather than bounce.
[20:18:50] <cpm> yeah, sounds like it.
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[20:49:18] <FluxboXtremist> cpm, ok port 25 is now up
[20:49:23] <FluxboXtremist> listening
[20:50:12] <FluxboXtremist> cpm, but i can create mailboxes on postfixadmin, says the e-mail is not valid
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[20:50:21] <FluxboXtremist> i cant**
[20:50:45] <FluxboXtremist> The passwords that you supplied don't match!
[20:50:45] <FluxboXtremist> Or are empty!
[20:50:49] <FluxboXtremist> :S
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[20:52:24] <cpm> FluxboXtremist, I know nothing about postfixadmin, perhaps you might want to ask on their forums. This is #postfix, not #postfixadmin
[20:53:21] <FluxboXtremist> cpm, so how can i create mailboxes?
[20:53:59] <FluxboXtremist> i am new on this of mailservers :S
[20:55:52] <jeev> cite: you there?
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[20:57:16] <jelly> FluxboXtremist: postfixadmin sounds like a configuration ui/tool of some sort, it is not part of postfix proper
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[20:58:19] <FluxboXtremist> jelly, but how can i create an mailbox for users, without that
[21:07:19] <jelly> FluxboXtremist: I _guess_ you could start by reading http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html and choosing a strategy (normal unix accounts? one domain or some virtual domains setup?)
[21:08:05] <FluxboXtremist> ok ok
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[21:14:42] <xibalba> hey
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[21:16:11] <xibalba> i would like to setup my postfix server to relay email to specific internal email servers based on domains, where should i start to look at ?
[21:16:47] <tore_> postfixadmin is just to administrate the users/domains.
[21:17:22] <xibalba> transport i'm guessing
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[22:11:42] <xibalba> i'm using this as a guide, http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html#firewall, and was wondering if i leave out the relay_recipient directive will it just forward all emails for a domain to the internal mail server based on transport ?
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[22:31:34] <xibalba> i'm using this as a guide, http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html#firewall, and was wondering if i leave out the relay_recipient directive will it just forward all emails for a domain to the internal mail server based on transport ?
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[22:35:22] <tundra> Hello, I have all the notify_classes activated and *_notice_recipient going to a alias that points to a script, bash in my case. Is any information of the error/bounce/etc passed to the script? Is there a way to access it?
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[22:36:44] <tundra> So far the only way to access to something is by reading root spool mail. But I want to know if some information is passwd to the script when the event occurs, thanks
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[22:56:35] <magyar_> hello, is there a way to set the number of days between vacation replies for postfixadmin vacation?
[22:57:25] <FluxboXtremist> dunno
[22:57:30] <FluxboXtremist> magyar, can you help me with postfixadmin?
[22:58:16] <FluxboXtremist> it seems to do nothing about connect to mysql
[22:58:40] <FluxboXtremist> so i cant create mailboxes
[23:03:44] <seekwill> Do you get an error message?
[23:04:23] <FluxboXtremist> yes
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[23:04:28] <FluxboXtremist> it says invalid email
[23:04:38] <seekwill> From postfixadmin when connecting to MySQL
[23:04:40] <FluxboXtremist> and for password says password dont match
[23:04:43] <adaptr> of course not - postfixadmin is all-powerful, and eat UR Rrorz
[23:04:57] * seekwill sporks adaptr
[23:05:16] <adaptr> there was no call for that, and here's me without my foon
[23:05:16] <FluxboXtremist> help to this n00b
[23:05:19] <FluxboXtremist> XD
[23:05:38] <adaptr> FluxboXtremist: if $n00b, then don't use postfixadmin
[23:05:45] <adaptr> learn how it actually works
[23:05:49] <adaptr> and rejoice
[23:05:50] <FluxboXtremist> :)
[23:05:51] <sysmonk> if ($noob) exit;
[23:05:52] <sysmonk> :)
[23:05:57] <FluxboXtremist> lol
[23:06:23] <FluxboXtremist> i use it because it need a fast solution for an internal web mail service here at work
[23:06:39] <sysmonk> didn't i see your nick back ~8 hours before ?
[23:06:49] <FluxboXtremist> so postfix seems to be listening  on port 25
[23:06:53] <FluxboXtremist> yeah
[23:07:01] <sysmonk> poor thing.
[23:07:06] <sysmonk> FluxboXtremist: maybe you'd like to hire a sysadmin?
[23:07:08] <FluxboXtremist> sysmonk, but all that problem was fixed
[23:07:25] * seekwill prepares resume
[23:07:33] <sysmonk> seekwill: dang
[23:07:36] <FluxboXtremist> lol
[23:07:36] <sysmonk> seekwill: i don't even have one
[23:07:47] <seekwill> sysmonk: I don't have one either, but it was funny!
[23:07:48] <FluxboXtremist> well no help over here
[23:08:01] <sysmonk> i need to write one
[23:08:16] <sysmonk> just to have less work when i'll be kicked out of my current job ;P
[23:08:36] <seekwill> You looking for a job? Where are you located?
[23:08:44] <FluxboXtremist> i will setup a mail server at homw for test
[23:08:49] <FluxboXtremist> home*
[23:08:53] <sysmonk> seekwill: lithuania
[23:08:59] <FluxboXtremist> bye cya soon
[23:09:01] <seekwill> Oh, little too far...
[23:09:20] <sysmonk> only that?
[23:09:29] <sysmonk> i was thinking of an 'oh, is that on earth' answer
[23:10:19] <seekwill> Well, I might know someone, who knows someone, who's friend's dad's boss's son's wife', sister knew someone at this one company that's looking for people on the east coast of the US.
[23:10:21] <sysmonk> seekwill: got a job offer? :P
[23:10:38] <sysmonk> ah, that's not far away!
[23:10:52] <sysmonk> it's like ~100-200 ms away from me
[23:10:53] <seekwill> To work in Maryland
[23:10:57] <seekwill> lol
[23:11:07] <sysmonk> reaaly! :)
[23:11:09] <seekwill> We were looking for localhost though
[23:11:24] <sysmonk> ah, some netcat/sockat magic and i'd be in localhost
[23:11:24] <sysmonk> ;P
[23:11:25] <seekwill> err... not 'we'...
[23:11:53] <sysmonk> if the company is more advanced i could EVEN setup a vpn to the office
[23:12:02] <sysmonk> you know, for additional 99999.99$
[23:12:08] <seekwill> "they" have VPN
[23:12:23] <sysmonk> oh ;( darn :(
[23:12:45] <sysmonk> heh, anyway, i'm always open for part-time jobs or remote jobs
[23:13:30] <sysmonk> although i still have a job ;)
[23:13:35] <sysmonk> question is - for how long :P
[23:14:18] <seekwill> heh
[23:14:24] <seekwill> Stop chatting on IRC!
[23:14:36] <sysmonk> seekwill: it's 00:14 here ...
[23:14:45] <sysmonk> and nah, it's not about chatting
[23:14:47] <seekwill> So?
[23:14:54] <seekwill> You should be working!
[23:14:59] <sysmonk> i started counting overtime this month ( never did it before, was a good worker )
[23:15:06] <sysmonk> so i've counted 18 hours already *cough*
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[23:15:12] <sysmonk> wait till they see my bill...
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