[00:00:06] <Motoko-chan> You can use Maildrop with Dovecot: http://wiki.dovecot.org/maildrop
[00:00:47] <Flashtek> lets not get in to that conversation please..
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[00:01:56] <Flashtek> lol
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[00:56:03] <devaudio> can anyone point me to a good article for removing "auto-signatures" from emails into my domain? I tried searching in google and can't find anything :/
[00:56:38] <devaudio> I can't even tell if postfix (my MTA) or a .forward would be a better solution
[00:57:31] <devaudio> I see how to add one in postfix
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[01:10:45] <devaudio> fry?
[01:10:48] <devaudio> fry?
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[01:24:07] <iball> hi, i have multiple remote offices for a single domain, for eg. office1.domain.tld, office2.domain.tld, what i would like to accomplish is that an email will be routed to appropiately smtp.office1.domain.tld if the user belong to office1, how would i go about this??
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[01:24:38] <iball> so any email coming to user_x at domain dot tld will get routed to smtp.office1.domain.tld
[01:24:54] <iball> and user_y at domain dot tld will get routed to smtp.office2.domain.tld
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[01:25:48] <EGBlue> hey all, i am getting an error in my maillog, " fatal: chroot(/var/spool/postfix)
[01:25:48] <EGBlue> : Operation not permitted
[01:25:50] <EGBlue> "
[01:25:54] <shasta> obviously you must have a list of users and their belongings, iball
[01:26:12] <shasta> !transport_maps
[01:26:13] <knoba> shasta: "transport_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup tables with mappings from recipient address to (message delivery transport, next-hop destination). See transport(5) for details.
[01:26:23] <shasta> iball, then this ^^^^^^^^^^
[01:27:01] <iball> shasta: can you help with a newbie guide
[01:27:20] <shasta> iball, man 5 transport
[01:27:28] <iball> tahnks
[01:27:30] <iball> thanks
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[01:27:48] <nibu> hi!
[01:28:49] <nibu> someone could help me how can I config my postfix to only send mail requesting the password of the acount?
[01:29:06] <nibu> or a how-to off this
[01:29:07] <nibu> ?
[01:32:12] <mwalling> !debug
[01:32:12] <knoba> mwalling: "debug" : http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html : a good starting point for how to deal with problems and to report information to those who might help. Post your information in a pastebin such as http://pastebin.ca/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ .
[01:32:15] <mwalling> EGBlue: ^^
[01:32:51] <EGBlue> thanks mwalling, will follow ;)
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[01:38:55] <EGBlue> mwalling, i got it working by disabling selinux.
[01:39:10] <EGBlue> thanks for your help!
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[03:39:00] <runes> I'm new to Postfix and before I install I am trying to figure out which is most suitable: mbox or maildir?
[03:39:23] <lunaphyte> i think you'll find folks these days generally use maildir
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[03:40:16] <runes> it was also suggested that Dovecot is good for pop...
[03:40:33] <runes> ?
[03:40:34] <lunaphyte> i'd say that's a reasonable suggestion.
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[03:41:31] <runes> ok so now I have three things to work with postfix, dovecot and the suggested maildir thank-you now I can get back to the reading (and a lot there is)
[03:42:18] <runes> I hope you all won't mind if I ask questions over the next few weeks I really want to read up before installing
[03:44:18] <lunaphyte> as an added bonus, that will lend itself to using dovecot's implementation of sasl - sasl being something you'll likely want sooner rather than later, and the dovecot implementation being notably less painful to configure than the cyrus implementation.
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[03:45:37] <rob0> For POP (download & delete) usage, mbox is slightly better. Only a minor advantage.
[03:46:04] <mattlh> Hi - how does TSL work?  And why does smtp.gmail.com demand TSL and smtp.comcast.net not?
[03:46:27] <rob0> Of course, it's rather silly to do that, IMAP is better for most folks & companies.
[03:46:33] <lunaphyte> Tazmanian as a Second Language?
[03:46:42] <mattlh> Transparent Security Layer
[03:46:43] <mattlh> I think
[03:46:49] <mattlh> or what you said, I get it mixed up
[03:46:51] <runes> I was just reading on sasl ..I take it wiout it implemented people would not be able to use encrypted logins?
[03:47:11] <lunaphyte> esp. since people who insist on using pop seem to often skip the delete part.
[03:47:11] <mattlh> I think i mean tls also
[03:47:13] <rob0> STL, Lambert-St. Louis Airport
[03:47:38] <lunaphyte> oh, maybe he means lts, ubuntu Long Term Support?
[03:47:39] <rob0> SLT, Slate Run VORTAC
[03:47:47] <mattlh> yea, it's certainly concerning encrypted log ins
[03:47:50] <rob0> LTS, Altus, OK
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[03:47:58] <mattlh> but I'm wondering why comcast wouldn't use it
[03:48:00] <mattlh> why gmail would
[03:48:15] <lunaphyte> that's like asking why dogs eat their own poo.
[03:48:17] <mattlh> I'm tinkering with smtp junk, and I was having trouble sending email through a server set up for it
[03:48:22] <rob0> /ignore rob0
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[03:48:34] <mattlh> then when tinkering with telnet realized spamhaus blocked all dynamically allocated IP's
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[03:48:43] <rob0> Now I don't see all the annoying junk I type.
[03:48:50] <mattlh> this got me wondering how I even sent email
[03:49:19] <rob0> mattlh [n=asd at c-76-118-217-215 dot hsd1.ma.comcast.net] ... you are ON Comcast
[03:49:24] <mattlh> yea, i know
[03:49:42] <mattlh> that's not the issue
[03:49:42] <rob0> they control your network, they don't care if you use TLS maybe
[03:49:46] <mattlh> I'm saying, i learned this
[03:49:49] <mattlh> then got curious about something else
[03:49:50] <rob0> or maybe they're stupid
[03:50:23] <mattlh> the chance of them being so successful and stupid gets low
[03:50:36] <mattlh> if they were stupid there'd be a giant opening in the market for everyone else
[03:50:43] <rob0> huh
[03:50:58] <rob0> mattlh is living in a different world than I am
[03:51:21] <mattlh> I don't know - I think people underestimate corporate intelligence
[03:51:46] <JDLSpeedy> hello, i installed postfix with virtual domains, if i make 'myhostname = example.com' it makes all email goto catchall at example dot com mail directory, if i do 'myhostname = mail.example.com' it makes the rest of the virtual domains work, but when sending email to @example.com, it goes to @mail.example.com
[03:51:54] <JDLSpeedy> any idea on how to solve this issue?
[03:52:49] <rob0> Well, as for the TLS thing, maybe they do require it from non-Comcast origination IP's.
[03:53:08] <lunaphyte> mattlh: i think that's a bit incomplete.  people underestimate the motives behind corporate intelligence.
[03:53:21] <runes> for secure connections I see that there's ssl and tls  then for authentication I see plain, ntlm, gssapi, digest-md5 etc... how doe sthis play into SASL?
[03:53:24] <mattlh> lunaphyte: agreed
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[03:53:50] <mattlh> i think stupid looks better publicly than conniving/evil/etc
[03:54:12] <rob0> 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN CRAM-MD5 (what I get from non-Comcast)
[03:54:13] <lunaphyte> runes: the latter are mechnisms than can be employed when using sasl, for authentication.
[03:55:14] <lunaphyte> rob0: what do you get from within the belly of the beast?  esophageal lesions?
[03:55:26] <rob0> Sounds like JDLSpeedy is relying on too many default settings ...
[03:55:28] <rob0> !basic
[03:55:29] <knoba> rob0: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[03:55:51] <rob0> Set myhostname and mydestination as you need them to be.
[03:56:01] <runes> lunaphyte, so then when messages are sent out from a client they use sasl and then either tls or ssl to encrypt the session through SASL?
[03:56:22] <mattlh> how does one authenticate with ssl, tls, et cetera?
[03:56:27] <rob0> lunaphyte, same
[03:56:30] <mattlh> is it just the
[03:56:32] <mattlh> user/pass
[03:56:35] <mattlh> kind of experience?
[03:56:51] <runes> thanx knoba
[03:56:52] <lunaphyte> runes: sasl is for authenticating, tls(ssl) is for encryption.
[03:56:54] <JDLSpeedy> rob0: so you can set myhostname and mydestination to example.com?
[03:56:58] <rob0> TLS is rarely used for authentication, it's not widely supported.
[03:57:16] <runes> lunaphyte, Ok NOW I understand!
[03:57:18] <mattlh> I guess what I'm asking is, what does mozilla do for me when it confronts a tsl encryption request?
[03:57:20] <rob0> jd, I don't know what you need them to be!
[03:57:24] <mattlh> tls? tsl?
[03:57:40] <rob0> slt
[03:57:54] <mattlh> lts
[03:58:24] <rob0> When you hit a server that requires TLS for AUTH, you EHLO and AUTH is not in the list
[03:58:39] <rob0> STARTTLS is, and you do that and EHLO again
[03:58:46] <rob0> then you see AUTH in the list
[03:58:46] <mattlh> it's weird how many interfaces use the default emacs keys
[03:58:56] <rob0> "man s_client"
[04:00:37] <mattlh> so, i guess
[04:00:51] <lunaphyte> hmm - -bash: man s_client: command not found
[04:00:53] <mattlh> where does thunderbird get cert info?
[04:00:57] <lunaphyte> :)
[04:01:41] <lunaphyte> from it's list of certs.
[04:02:04] <mattlh> so If i dig around through thunderbird's folders I should find some certs somewhere...
[04:02:11] <rob0> YOU_FOOL="man s_client" ; $YOU_FOOL
[04:02:35] <runes> the basic config on postfix.org states to place the hostname in..but what if you only want to have a domain like test.com and you just want the email addresses to be user to be user at test dot com rather than user at mail dot host.com?  must you always palce the hotname in?
[04:02:37] <rob0> nyuk nyuk nyuk
[04:02:48] <lunaphyte> haha
[04:03:03] <runes> oops that was supposed to be user at mail dot test.com
[04:03:16] <lunaphyte> ok, phew, that worked, thanks.
[04:03:55] <rob0> You put what you need as myhostname and as mydestination.
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[04:05:36] <runes> got it thank-you now back to the reading have a good night!
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[04:07:31] <lunaphyte> mattlh: i'll tell you exactly where to find it if you send me 5 dollars via paypal.
[04:09:04] <mattlh> I actually think I'm done being curious
[04:09:22] <mattlh> too bad though
[04:09:27] <mattlh> you could have be + $5
[04:09:31] <mattlh> been*
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[04:30:54] <tom_> I'm trying to finish up a spamassassin/procmail set up in postfix. Spamassassin is correctly tagging my e-mails. I set up a script with procmail to move anything tagged to junk (so I think).  I added "mailbox_command = /usr/bin/procmail -f- -a "$USER" in main.cf ...it looks in the logs it's delivering the e-mail procmail ...and then it's lost.  Can someone lend a hand please? it's gotta be something simple
[04:33:14] <tom_> ...anyone?
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[04:35:10] <rob0> turn on logging in procmail
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[04:35:47] <rob0> Is spamassasin being called by procmail, or at the MTA as content_filter?
[04:36:24] <tom_> rob0: at the MTA
[04:36:35] <tom_> so i'm assuming then the e-mail gets sent to procmail, right?
[04:36:36] <rob0> I would recommend amavisd-new and tagging user+spam
[04:36:52] <rob0> then .forward+spam to redirect to spam folder
[04:37:07] <rob0> recipient_delimiter
[04:37:35] <tom_> yeah i might go to amavis next -- but I wanted to get spamassassin working first, just to make sure I understood it.
[04:37:43] <rob0> actually "-" might be better for recipient_delimiter
[04:37:59] <tom_> how do I turn on logging in procmail?
[04:38:41] <rob0> Nice thing about amavisd-new is that you only have the one perl process running, SA is invoked as a perl module.
[04:39:12] <rob0> I don't remember, but I'm sure it's in the man pages.
[04:39:44] <tom_> oh! I think it is working!
[04:39:50] <tom_> sort of...
[04:40:30] <tom_> So let me post my .procmailrc file...I think, being as you know what you're doing, you'll see my problem in about 2 seconds
[04:42:37] <tom_> http://rafb.net/p/pHe6kH87.html
[04:43:06] <tom_> It's moving to a file called Junk--and appending, rather than moving the e-mail to the junk folder in .Maildir
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[05:56:03] <c0mrade> I'm trying to send mail from localhost I get this error "Relay access denied"
[05:57:28] <pickcoder> c0mrade: pastebin the output from postconf -n
[05:57:31] <rob0> !relay_denied
[05:57:32] <knoba> rob0: "relay_denied" : \"554 5.7.1 <RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN>: Relay access denied; from=<SENDER_ADDRESS> to=<RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN> proto=ESMTP helo=<HELO>\": This typically means that CLIENT_IP is not in mynetworks (and did not AUTH), and that RCPT_DOMAIN was not recognized as one of this Postfix's domains (not listed in mydestination, relay_domains or virtual_*_domains).
[05:57:57] <pickcoder> rob0 with the quick trigger
[05:58:03] <c0mrade> here it is
[05:58:06] <c0mrade> http://pastebin.com/m648e80e6
[05:59:49] <c0mrade> I was really googling before asking couldn't find solution on my own ..
[06:01:49] <rob0> and let's see the one log line from smtpd which looks like the above. Paste that single line here (fix word wrap before you do.)
[06:02:38] <c0mrade> didn't get your point sorry
[06:04:52] <c0mrade> this ?
[06:04:53] <c0mrade> postfix/smtpd[3553]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from medina.green.ba[209.250.234.194]: 554 5.7.1 <emir.ibrahimbegovic at ssst dot edu.ba>: Relay access denied;
[06:06:39] <rob0> medina.green.ba[209.250.234.194] is not localhost
[06:09:11] <pickcoder> *ding ding*
[06:09:22] <c0mrade> I'm not sending from localhost
[06:09:27] <c0mrade> I'm telneting from another machine
[06:09:31] <pickcoder> !mynetworks
[06:09:31] <knoba> pickcoder: "mynetworks" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The list of "trusted" SMTP clients that can relay email.
[06:09:32] <rob0> 03:56 < c0mrade> I'm trying to send mail from localhost I get this error "Relay access denied"
[06:09:48] <rob0> medina.green.ba[209.250.234.194] is not in mynetworks
[06:10:35] <c0mrade> tnx I'll give it a shot now ..
[06:15:19] <c0mrade> thank you guys alot :) this is like zilionth time I'm trying to setup mailserver and I'm always encountering new errors
[06:18:40] <rob0> 2 other comments: 1. Don't unset local_recipient_maps unless you're using luser_relay, which is itself a bad idea. 2. Don't use relay_domains without relay_recipient_maps.
[06:18:47] <rob0> !address_classes
[06:18:47] <knoba> rob0: "address_classes" : http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_CLASS_README.html describes how Postfix deals with different classes of addresses: local, relay, virtual alias, virtual mailbox, and Internet.
[06:24:18] <c0mrade> ok tnx
[06:25:14] <pickcoder> and don't run outside during a thunderstom wearing a foil suit
[06:25:26] <c0mrade> hahah k mum :P
[06:25:37] <c0mrade> tnx r0b0
[06:25:41] <rob0> but ... but ... what about the mind control waves?
[06:25:55] <c0mrade> :-)
[06:26:41] <pickcoder> rob0: the rain disperses them!
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[07:06:50] <pickcoder> bbl
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[08:26:56] <servettas> hi everyone
[08:26:56] <servettas> i am using postfix with ubuntu 8.04 and when i want a mail with pop3 looking error. itis below
[08:26:56] <servettas> http://paste.ubuntu.com/26500/
[08:26:56] <servettas> can anyone help me pls
[08:26:56] <servettas> here postconf -n out http://paste.ubuntu.com/26501/
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[08:27:56] <f3ew> Postfix doesn't do POP3
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[08:28:49] <servettas> f3ew, i mean smtp
[08:31:00] <f3ew> 85.106.230.157 you are not authenticating or that IP is not in mynetworks
[08:32:42] <servettas> must i remove ?
[08:33:21] <f3ew> add the IP to mynetworks, or setup your client to authenticate?
[08:33:57] <servettas> when i add my ip, then i can sending mail
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[08:40:15] <servettas> yes
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[09:47:40] <Joelwork> Hi, I need some help with authlib.. I know this would be the wrong channel
[09:48:59] <Joelwork> when running ./configure, is this right  --with-mailuser=nobody --with-mailgroup=nobody?
[09:49:10] <Joelwork> or do I need to specify the uid,gid?
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[09:54:53] <Joelwork> at the end of configure I get ... Cannot obtain information for groupid 99: Success
[09:54:58] <Joelwork> which is odd
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[10:07:07] <q-tip> I have user@outsidedomain user@insidedomain written in  /etc/canoncial however all mails from @ousidedomain get user@insidedomain!! is there anyway of stopping this ?
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[10:14:40] <Tanguy> hello
[10:14:41] <f3ew> hm?
[10:15:26] <Tanguy> when i give my email address to some societies, they check it is a valid one, and refuse +'ed addresses
[10:15:54] <Tanguy> do you know a character i could use to separate the address extension, that is more common thant the +?
[10:18:05] <jduggan> the + should be perfectly valid?
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[10:20:25] <Tanguy> yes, it should, actually, the problem is located on my suppliers' email address verification code
[10:21:26] <Tanguy> _, maybe?
[10:22:12] <Tanguy> well, that would also be a problem if i have a user with a multiple-words surname
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[10:22:34] <Tanguy> damn sncf, airfrance and other stupid companies!
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[10:33:47] <Tanguy> may i use a string of several character as recipient_delimiter?
[10:34:12] <Tanguy> somethink like --, that would not collide to a part of some username?
[10:34:59] <f3ew> ``
[10:35:13] <f3ew> '); DROP TABLE users; --
[10:35:14] <f3ew> :P
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[10:35:27] <f3ew> recipient_delimiter is a single character
[10:36:08] <Tanguy> :(
[10:36:13] <Tanguy> :)
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[10:41:02] <Joelwork> authdaemond: modules="(none)", daemons=0 .. does this mean I dont have the mysql auth module?
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[10:57:06] <rherrad> hello can someone howto install autoresponder yaa with mysql please thanks
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[11:44:20] <Twinkletoes|W> Postfix is logging an hour behind everything else... I'm sure it's something to do with BST vs GMT but is there an explanation anywhere?
[11:45:42] <soren> Twinkletoes|W: Is it perhaps chroot'ed and doesn't see the timezone setting that everything else sees?
[11:46:02] <Twinkletoes|W> It's running on FreeBSD, nothing is chrooted
[11:47:04] <soren> Oh. Then it's something else.
[11:47:12] * soren is full of wisdom today
[11:47:14] <sysmonk> Twinkletoes|W: maybe you've changed the timezone when postfix was runin?
[11:47:24] <Twinkletoes|W> sysmonk: not knowingly
[11:47:34] <sysmonk> Twinkletoes|W: are you able to restart postfix?
[11:47:38] <Twinkletoes|W> let me try
[11:48:37] <Twinkletoes|W> no joy... but I hear a cup of coffee calling me!
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[16:32:41] <gpled> have a customer who's mx record points to the wrong dns name.  their mx points to mail.example.com, but they only take mail at example.com.  can you think of a way to tell postfix, to send mail to example.com instead of what their mx record says?
[16:33:18] <shasta> sure
[16:33:23] <shasta> man 5 transport
[16:33:56] <shasta> section "RESULT FORMAT"
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[16:39:32] * DaveH|Work waves
[16:39:54] <gpled> hmm, so example.com smtp:example.com:25   should work?
[16:40:28] <rob0> gpled, look again, you want to INHIBIT the MX lookup.
[16:40:35] <shasta> you didn't read carefully enough
[16:40:52] <loucc> Hi im looking for postfix to do smtp relay w/o authentication. I set it up using clarkconnects webgui. I can telnet net in - but when i type . i get a message queued and it never goes out.
[16:40:56] <loucc> where should i look ?
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[16:42:40] <f3ew> your logs
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[16:44:23] <raz> is there a way to strip "(Postfix)" off the received headers that postfix adds?
[16:44:36] <raz> i don't want to tell the world what MTA i'm using :P
[16:48:06] <taec> I can't remember if changing mail_name will change that
[16:48:09] <taec> but it's worth a try
[16:48:14] <gpled> raz: the only people who care, already know
[16:48:23] <taec> postconf mail_name
[16:48:50] <gpled> raz: or should i say, the only botnets who care
[16:49:55] <f3ew> also, antispam software
[16:50:18] <loucc> f3ew where are the logs located?
[16:50:36] <f3ew>  /var/log
[16:52:00] <DaveH|Work> Hi all... I'm having some issues with domain aliases. I have set up postfix/postfix admin/mysql/dovecot/squirreladmin... it all works for my testdomain.co.uk address.. but I'm trying to set up a blanket forward for * at testdomain dot com to * at testdomain dot co.uk... I done this via postfix admin and it wrote the details to the alias_domain table.. however.. it isn't working...
[16:52:24] <rob0> !postmapq
[16:52:24] <knoba> rob0: "postmapq" : You can check your lookups with the postmap command. Example: if you defined "transport_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/transport.cf" you may check this mapping by running "postmap -q domain.com mysql:/etc/postfix/transport.cf" and see if it works.
[16:52:28] <rob0> !catchall
[16:52:29] <knoba> rob0: "catchall" : Sending all emails for non-existing users in domain to a special account. See man 5 virtual for the @domain syntax, which applies in virtual_*_maps and relay_recipient_maps. For local(8) delivery, unset local_recipient_maps and see luser_relay. WARNING: catchalls are rarely a good idea. Spammers will abuse them.
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[16:52:42] <DaveH|Work> I've looked through the configs etc.. and have a virtual_alias_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_alias_maps.cf which I can see is for individual user forwards
[16:53:04] <DaveH|Work> but I have no entry in my main.conf which points to a file to lookup the domain_alias table
[16:54:14] <DaveH|Work> I've tried rtfm.. but I'm new to postfix and I'm getting myself all confused... is it just that I need to write a new .cf file to add in to the virtual_alias_maps = section which calls the domain_alias table
[16:56:01] <rob0> try RTFC
[16:56:32] <DaveH|Work> I have no transport_maps = entry
[16:56:51] <DaveH|Work> these are all virtual accounts
[16:57:35] <loucc> Logs are recorded in maillost? I just tried to send a message and nothing showed up
[16:57:36] <loucc> 250 Ok: queued as 431CA8E008F
[16:57:39] <rob0> sigh
[16:57:53] <rob0> You can check your lookups with the postmap command.
[16:58:14] <rob0> Example: if you defined virtual_alias_maps = ...
[16:58:36] <rob0> If you're not capable of abstraction, you'll have a hard time with this.
[16:58:51] <DaveH|Work> just reading the man page for virtual.. thanks rob0
[16:59:28] <loucc> ok..
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[17:01:25] <loucc> setting up smtp relay under trusted networks.. it should be 10.0.0.0/*   what does the * designate?
[17:01:28] <gpled> has anyone tried the latest spamassassin with perl 5.10?
[17:01:30] <loucc> what number should be there.
[17:02:07] <f3ew> s/\*/8
[17:02:23] <f3ew> loucc the keyword is CIDR
[17:02:48] <loucc> ah
[17:03:43] <loucc> well thats pretty confusing. im looking for 10.77.77.0 - 254
[17:03:53] <loucc> i had 8 in there...
[17:05:45] <loucc> is that wrong
[17:06:00] <f3ew> yes
[17:06:07] <f3ew> you want 10.77.77.0/24
[17:06:14] <rob0> I think wikipedia has a good page on CIDR
[17:06:18] <f3ew> which is 0-255
[17:06:57] <loucc> the range of ips on the network
[17:07:08] <loucc> goes from 10.77.77.0 to 10.77.77.254
[17:07:32] * f3ew sighs
[17:07:52] <DaveH|Work> I think what i'm really trying to say is... I have /etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_alias_maps.cf which is I understand to be the commands on how to lookup destemail and pull out newdestemail address.. but.. I don't have a .cf file which does it for entire domains (and reference the alias_domain table instead of the alias table)
[17:07:53] <rob0> it's one of those days, huh? :)
[17:08:27] <rob0> !virtual
[17:08:28] <knoba> rob0: "virtual" : a way to configure additional domains and user accounts (that do not need to exist in your /etc/passwd). See: http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html
[17:08:32] <f3ew> one of those months
[17:08:36] <rob0> !virtual_alias_domains
[17:08:37] <knoba> rob0: "virtual_alias_domains" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional list of names of virtual alias domains, that is, domains for which all addresses are aliased to addresses in other local or remote domains.
[17:08:58] <rob0> !mysql
[17:08:58] <knoba> rob0: "mysql" : http://www.postfix.org/MYSQL_README.html is helpful in configuring postfix to talk to a mysql server.
[17:08:59] <DaveH|Work> i'm sorry for my extreme n00bism but i'm trying to piece it together from tutorials
[17:09:00] <DaveH|Work> aah
[17:09:03] <f3ew> DaveH|Work, create another map
[17:09:04] <DaveH|Work> I think that is what I need
[17:09:09] <f3ew> a second query
[17:09:15] <DaveH|Work> I have virtual_alias_maps
[17:09:20] <DaveH|Work> but no virtual_alias_domains
[17:09:22] <rob0> I would not recommend SQL for virtual_alias_domains, however.
[17:09:27] <DaveH|Work> :O
[17:09:28] <DaveH|Work> doh
[17:09:30] <loucc> few thanks
[17:09:34] <rob0> use a hash file or just list them in main.cf
[17:09:40] <f3ew> virtual_alias_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql1.cf, mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql2.cf ....
[17:09:53] <f3ew> <=== will be using Pg for v_a_d
[17:10:07] <f3ew> but we will be having a few thousand domains
[17:10:10] <rob0> sure, but you're a professional stunt driver on a closed track.
[17:10:35] * f3ew lands his sr71 on the track
[17:10:36] <DaveH|Work> is there an example .cf for someone using virtual_alias_domains so I can see the structure.. or is that something where I should JFGI
[17:10:48] <rob0> !google
[17:10:48] <knoba> rob0: "google" : Those who use Google before reading the Postfix documentation, if fortunate, end up at http://www.postfix.org/ . If not, they end up in a jumble of bad questions, misleading or wrong answers, and outdated information.
[17:11:25] <DaveH|Work> aye.. I thought it may be a jfgi
[17:11:31] <DaveH|Work> I shall prod google now
[17:11:41] <DaveH|Work> thanks for your help :)
[17:12:41] <c0mrade> hiya rob0
[17:14:23] <rob0> haha
[17:14:53] <rob0> I wasn't saying JFGI at all, quite the contrary. I was saying RTFM. Big difference!
[17:15:30] <rob0> postconf.5.html#virtual_alias_domains
[17:16:15] <loucc> postfix isnt logging where it should.  where do you specify where its logged? syslog?
[17:16:39] <DaveH|Work> heh rob, that is what i'm reading at the moment :)
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[17:25:41] <f3ew> loucc Postfix always logs to syslog
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[17:40:07] <loucc> f3ew it should be logging in /var/log/maillog and its not. if i delete the file should it re-create?
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[17:42:31] <Azrael> what is the purpose of the submission daemon/port (587)?
[17:42:43] <Azrael> just SMTP with SASL?
[17:43:38] <f3ew> restart syslogd
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[17:45:55] <loucc> thanks, trying
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[17:53:43] <DaveH|Work> ok.. I know it has been suggested to not use mysql for virtual_alias_domains.. but everything else is on there at the moment..and I'd like to set that up and then switch to a hash file... but ok..my setup now..
[17:53:51] <DaveH|Work> I have virtual_alias_domains = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_alias_domains.cf
[17:54:06] <DaveH|Work> in the .cf file I have...
[17:54:08] <DaveH|Work> dbname = postfix
[17:54:08] <DaveH|Work> table = alias_domain
[17:54:08] <DaveH|Work> select_field = target_domain
[17:54:08] <DaveH|Work> where_field = alias_domain
[17:54:28] <DaveH|Work> and if I do a postmap -q mydomain.com mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_alias_domains.cf
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[17:54:33] <DaveH|Work> it comes back with mydomain.co.uk
[17:54:46] <DaveH|Work> so.. the postmap appears to be doing what it should
[17:54:49] <DaveH|Work> but
[17:55:21] <DaveH|Work> if I send an email to me at mydomain dot com it still errors with Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual alias table
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[17:59:40] <DaveH|Work> now.. if I have mydomain.com and mydomain.co.uk added as domains in my postfix conf... and have an entry in alias_domain pointing mydomain.com to mydomain.co.uk
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[18:00:10] <DaveH|Work> in the logs i get "postfix/trivial-rewrite[2684]: warning: do not list domain mydomain.com in BOTH virtual_alias_domains and virtual_mailbox_domains"
[18:00:56] <DaveH|Work> so..if I remove the domain alias.. it won't forward anyway... but if I remove the mydomain.com from postfix..then it says it can't find me at mydomain dot com
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[18:29:51] <DaveH|Work> mmm
[18:29:56] <DaveH|Work> i've kind of resolved it
[18:30:19] <DaveH|Work> if in the alias table i put an entry of * at mydomain dot com to * at mydomain dot co.uk it works
[18:30:36] <DaveH|Work> I just need to try and get it working on the other table.. to keep things neat
[18:30:56] <DaveH|Work> thanks for your help everyone..apologies for the stupidly n00bish questions.. just trying to pick up the ropes
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[19:28:04] <c0mrade> "postmap: fatal: unsupported dictionary type: mysql" any idea how to resolve this
[19:28:21] <c0mrade> I got this after postmap -q komentari.info mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual-mailbox-domains.cf
[19:29:11] <c0mrade> !unsupported dictionary type
[19:29:11] <knoba> c0mrade: Error: "unsupported" is not a valid command.
[19:29:16] <c0mrade> hahah
[19:31:22] <adaptr> c0mrade: install , rebuild, or beg for mysql support in your postfix setup
[19:32:21] <c0mrade> ok I'm reading this http://www.postfix.org/MYSQL_README.html
[19:32:33] <adaptr> good!
[19:33:43] <c0mrade> and I see "make -f Makefile.init makefiles \" etc .. but I have trouble understanding .. I should put this make -f etc. inside mysql-virtual-mailbox-domains.cf or where .. sorry I'm not native eng speaker sometimes have trouble with understanding ..
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[19:47:12] <Dominian> argh
[19:47:16] <Dominian> Ok I'm at an impass..
[19:47:29] <Dominian> user using submission port.. sasl authenticated, however, sender address rejected: access denied
[19:47:33] <Dominian> wtf
[19:47:43] <rob0> outhouse?
[19:47:56] <Dominian> I don't get it.. he's sasl authenticated
[19:48:02] <rob0> logs show that auth took place?
[19:48:11] <Dominian> hang on
[19:48:15] <Dominian> chekcing now..
[19:48:19] <Dominian> I think I know the issue
[19:48:26] <rob0> postconf -n if so
[19:48:56] <rob0> sounds like a check_sender_access thing
[19:50:18] <Dominian> now I think i got it figured out..
[19:50:55] <Dominian> Yeah.. its what I thought it was
[19:51:54] <gpled> is their anyway tor run a traceroute (better yet, mtr) over port 25?
[19:54:16] <supa_user> gpled: tcptraceroute
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[20:35:31] <nicram_> Can U help me? I have set postfix with cyrus-imap. I'm using one domain. I can send message locally and outside but I can't recevice. I have the error: 550-User unknown. But when do: cyradm -u admin postoffice and then run lm I can see mailbox. What's wrong?
[20:36:10] <nicram_> Sorry, the error message is: 550-Mailbox unknown.
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[21:02:18] <linkslice> when i run postfix set-permissions I get the following error: chown: cannot access `/usr/lib/postfix/dict_cdb.so': No such file or directory
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[21:08:07] <c0mrade> how can I fix this error ? "fatal: unsupported dictionary type: mysql"
[21:14:15] <mwalling> install/compile postfix with mysql support
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[21:21:24] <c0mrade> how will I do that ?
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[21:25:13] <shasta> start with reading docs
[21:25:29] <shasta> http://www.postfix.org/MYSQL_README.html
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[21:38:12] <c0mrade> shasta I've red it so many times
[21:38:19] <c0mrade> stopped counting thats why I came here to ask
[21:39:15] <mwalling> ask your packager then
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[22:27:49] <adaptr> I've told him the same thing
[22:27:52] <adaptr> oh
[22:28:06] <adaptr> slow fucking chat
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[22:33:29] <dex> hello, I am using virtual users and in the virtual_alias_map file, if I define the users as user@localhost user, it works however when I define it as user at testdomain dot com user, it doesn't seem to work
[22:33:37] <dex> is it supposed to behave like that?
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[22:34:47] <dex> (I am on a local machine and want all mails sent locally to * at testdomain dot com to come back to local mailboxes)
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[23:24:09] <PcPixel> We just had our internal relay server has just choked. what do i need to add to my postfix server so it will just queue up mail until we can get it back online
[23:24:44] <PcPixel> righ tnow i just added the maximal_backoff_time
[23:24:48] <xpoint> PcPixel, logs ?
[23:24:50] <PcPixel> i boosted it up. is that correct
[23:24:56] <PcPixel> the problem isnt on my postfix server
[23:25:00] <PcPixel> it son our exchange server
[23:25:03] <PcPixel> exchange server died
[23:25:27] <PcPixel> but what i want to klnow is if i leave my postfix server running to just queue all incoming mail, is there anything i have to add to the maion.cf to make sure it just doesnt conssider the mail "undeliverable"
[23:25:44] <xpoint> remove the died software and replace with woriking should be it
[23:26:10] <PcPixel> xpoint: we're working on that. but im talking abou tin the meantime.
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[23:27:28] <PcPixel> i inserted a maximal_backoff_time of 48 hours
[23:27:30] <xpoint> if your postfix is configured as a backup mx for the excange server then just extend queue time on postfix as long as its needed to replace exchange
[23:27:42] <PcPixel> its not a backup, its a relay.
[23:27:58] <xpoint> think as it was a backup :-)
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[23:28:09] <PcPixel> so it being the relay is a backup?
[23:28:22] <xpoint> queie time
[23:28:46] <PcPixel> whats the parameter i change, im trying to google it
[23:28:50] <xpoint> if time is just one hour it must be delivered in 1 hour, else postfix return it
[23:29:25] <PcPixel> well thats what i got from maximal_backoff_time. thats the time it goes up to if it cant deliver the mail
[23:29:33] <PcPixel> i can see my deferred queue filling which is what i want
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[23:30:16] <xpoint> PcPixel, postconf -d | grep 5d
[23:30:28] <xpoint> change it to your needs
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[23:30:41] <PcPixel> bounce_queue_lifetime and maximal_queue_lifetime
[23:30:48] <PcPixel> so thats the one that states how long it'll stay in the queue?
[23:31:30] <xpoint> eg set it to 1y will keep it in queue in 1 yaer
[23:31:43] <PcPixel> xpoint: you are awesome :)
[23:31:51] <PcPixel> 5 days is enough. we're burning midnight opil right now
[23:31:52] <xpoint> hope excange is up before that :-)
[23:32:02] <PcPixel> xpoint: i wanna kick excchange in its ass w a frozen boot
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[23:33:04] <PcPixel> xpoujnt: i so want to ditch it for KErio
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[23:34:12] <xpoint> PcPixel, there is hosted exchange on linux, i wonder if its still using windows
[23:34:15] <PcPixel> ok i think we're set fo rnow. we gotta wait for the drives to get clones over so we can attempt the .dbm repairs
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[23:34:28] <PcPixel> xpoint: Kerio runs on Linux
[23:35:28] <PcPixel> ive used it on Windows & compared to exchange it kicks ass
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[23:36:26] <PcPixel> compared to exchange its so simple yet powerful
[23:36:42] <PcPixel> only reason i didnt go w linux as a platform fo rit was at the time i didnt feel comfortable enough w linux
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[23:39:42] <PcPixel> i just love the fact my server is still standing
[23:41:28] <PcPixel> anyways, time to grab a quick dinner
[23:41:30] <PcPixel> then back to hell
[23:41:37] <PcPixel> thanks xpoint! i owe you
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