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[01:18:59] <ullio> hello. is there a way to combine more then 1 header check to see if like 2 conditions match? like if /Return Path: <>/ and /Message-ID: klj / ?
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[01:21:02] <ullio> oh. i see. just read a post from mr. wietse
[01:21:09] <ullio> its impossible
[01:28:33] <rob0> right, but if it's really important, you could have the first header divert to a FILTER action. Doesn't scale well.
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[01:34:36] <ullio> well i recieve 3000 to 4000 spam messages a day. i would like to kill all backscatter mail with weird message ids
[01:35:21] <ullio> .. not on my account alone. the mail server totasl
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[04:31:14] <snadge> am i going to experience much pain migrating a setup from 2.3.2 to 2.5.1? :)
[04:31:38] <snadge> rather vague question but just if anyone happens to know any particular gotchas
[04:33:23] <snadge> hmm.. nm.. i guess theres one way to find out
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[04:39:05] <Motoko-chan> Should be okay in general
[04:45:52] <JoaoCarneiro> snadge, i have no idea, but changelogs are your friends :)
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[04:47:32] <Dominian> you may run into issues during the upgrade process with your main.cf
[04:47:35] <Dominian> so make backups
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[04:47:46] <Dominian> I'm sure some paramaters have changed or been completely removed
[04:49:57] <snadge> this will be fun :)
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[05:09:58] <bondoer> hi folks; Does someone knows how to determine whether the mailbox exists on local system within some (perl)script
[05:10:42] <bondoer> i want to execute command within aliases file and first of all i want to check whether the user which sent the email does exists in my system
[05:29:45] <Evill> Anyone familiar with dk-filter/dk-milter?
[05:34:14] <Evill> Having problems with verification.
[05:34:30] <Evill> It's adding the "X-DomainKeys: ..." header line, but not "Authentication-Results:"
[05:34:44] <Evill> It occurred to me that that may mean it's actually in signing mode, but choosing not to sign that domain.
[05:34:54] <Evill> But there are no verbose options to give me any clues.
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[06:00:51] <snadge> *chokes* .. i just copied a postfix config from a suse 10.2 server to 11.0.. and it just worked ;)
[06:01:08] <snadge> apart from smtps was missing from /etc/services (apparently this is illegal anyway)
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[06:38:50] <snadge> whats the program to generate a .db file from the config file?
[06:39:15] <Motoko-chan> postmap
[06:39:26] <Ajax_> jello
[06:39:56] <snadge> thats it
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[08:46:39] <Rowellen> Hi, I am trying to delete some mails in the mailq but when I exec <mailq | tail +3 | awk  'BEGIN { RS = "" } / virusalert at example dot com/ { print $1 } ' | tr -d ? | postsuper -d ->
[08:47:10] <Rowellen> i get the following error: tail: cannot open `+3' for reading: No such file or directory
[08:47:41] <Rowellen> even when I use +2 for tail same error
[08:48:23] <f3ew> tail -n 3
[08:48:49] <Rowellen> let me try
[08:49:35] <Rowellen> thanks f3ew
[08:49:39] <Rowellen> works
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[08:54:13] <Rowellen> why does the man for postsuper say +2?
[08:54:39] <Rowellen> or at least mine does...
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[08:57:55] <Rowellen> cheers
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[10:15:55] <onik> i am using dovecot .. i am trying host domain on centos 4.6 using postfix 2.5.2 with plain text authentication . It says SASL LOGIN authentication failed: authentication failure.. Postfix Verbose log says xsasl_cyrus_server_first: sasl_method LOGIN xsasl_cyrus_server_auth_response: SASL LOGIN authentication failed: authentication failure
[10:16:00] <onik> can anyone help?
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[10:24:53] <dragonheart> are you using pop/imap on the same authentication method?
[10:25:10] <dragonheart> if so does that password work
[10:27:28] <onik> i am not sure
[10:28:05] <dragonheart> check the dovecot log too
[10:28:05] <onik> when I do postconf -a it gives me dovecot cyrus both
[10:28:28] <dragonheart> ah  - so set it to use dovecot
[10:28:56] <xpoint> postconf -n
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[10:29:50] <xpoint> postconf -a only gives what is supported, but its not default selected
[10:29:53] <onik> when I enable smtpd_sasl_type = dovecot , postfix hangs
[10:30:18] <xpoint> super :)
[10:30:42] <xpoint> is ssl tls working ?
[10:30:43] <onik> ??
[10:31:00] <onik> no. I am not using it
[10:31:57] <xpoint> you have to, and cyrus sasl need to have crypt support
[10:32:41] <dragonheart> somethign like smtpd_sasl_path = private/auth    the chroot location that dovecot puts its auth socket
[10:32:53] <xpoint> if it hangs some packages is brokken and or needs updating or recompile depending on your distros
[10:33:22] <onik> smtpd_sasl_path = smtpd
[10:33:39] <dragonheart> is dovecot creating an auth socket ? if so where
[10:33:45] <dragonheart> what are the postfix errors now?
[10:34:32] <onik> how do I check dovecot  auth socket?
[10:34:42] <xpoint> dovecot -n
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[10:36:09] <onik> dovecot -n
[10:36:10] <onik> # 1.1.1: /usr/local/etc/dovecot.conf
[10:36:10] <onik> Error: Can't open configuration file /usr/local/etc/dovecot.conf: No such file or directory
[10:36:10] <onik> Fatal: Invalid configuration in /usr/local/etc/dovecot.conf
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[10:42:52] <dragonheart> you need to have dovecot running to once you fix up your config file
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[10:45:11] <onik> dovecot is running.. and my dovecot.conf file is in /etc/dovecot.conf
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[11:08:52] <m0t3jl> Hi, is there some nice gui tool for going through postfix's mail log?
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[11:11:51] <UQlev> m0t3jl: mrtg graphs
[11:12:21] <m0t3jl> UQlev, that's a name of an application?
[11:13:17] <Roobarb> not entirely sure how wrapping a GUI around an inheently text-based log will help
[11:14:33] <UQlev> m0t3jl: mrtg is name of the application
[11:15:01] <m0t3jl> Roobarb, since postfix spits really a lot of data into the log, I would like to see some summary
[11:15:05] <UQlev> m0t3jl: it presents text logs in graphic interpretation
[11:15:05] <m0t3jl> UQlev, thanks
[11:18:40] <f3ew> awstats
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[11:35:19] <m0t3jl> f3ew, I thought awstats for just for httpd...
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[11:57:45] <deathwing00> shasta: ping
[11:59:07] <deathwing00> shasta: Delivered-To: and X-Original-To: do not show up; however I have enabled enable_original_recipient = yes and transport_destination_recipient_limit = 1 and I also have added the O flag for maildrop, but the headers are simply not there
[11:59:12] <deathwing00> any clues anyone?
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[12:03:16] <deathwing00> :(
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[13:06:40] <linderox> hello anybody can see my log file/
[13:06:40] <linderox> ?
[13:09:21] <m0t3jl> linderox, why don't you just pastebin your log file and then post here the link with your question?
[13:09:42] <m0t3jl> Never ask to ask!
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[13:11:59] <linderox> here is my log http://pastebin.ru/294972
[13:12:45] <linderox> i just installed postfix... and i dont want to be open relay...
[13:13:04] <linderox> but i see lots of connection in the log... what is this for example
[13:14:20] <linderox> Jul  2 19:02:32 [postfix/smtpd] connect from host171-4-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it[87.14.4.171]
[13:14:20] <linderox> is it spamers?
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[13:14:36] <linderox> Jul  2 19:02:33 [postfix/smtpd] NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from host171-4-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it[87.14.4.171]: 550 5.1.1 <ebc at vodoline dot com>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table; from=<myles.fudge at logicbbs dot org> to=<ebc at vodoline dot com> proto=ESMTP helo=<host171-4-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it>
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[13:20:19] <linderox> hey
[13:20:38] <shasta> linderox, Jul  2 18:52:04 [pipe] fatal: pipe_command: execvp /cyrus/deliver: No such file or directory
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[13:21:34] <linderox> i want to use imap , but i dont want create mysql base... and i didnt find solution for imap through /etc/passwd auth-on
[13:21:52] <linderox> can you give me any link?
[13:26:22] <tmus> linderox, dovecot
[13:26:39] <linderox> tmus: but it is pop3
[13:26:43] <shasta> wrong
[13:26:52] <tmus> linderox, imap too
[13:27:11] <shasta> both courier-imap and dovecot provide IMAP4 and POP3 access
[13:27:12] <linderox> i used to have qmail maildir
[13:27:32] <linderox> how to say for dovecot that i used to use it ? )
[13:27:41] <shasta> consult dovecot documentation
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[13:27:54] <shasta> this is #postfix, a Postfix support channel
[13:28:45] <linderox> plastinin:x:1043:100:mail_user:/mail/users/plastinin:/bin/false i have this type of  user dir
[13:28:52] <linderox> just only for mail
[13:29:35] <shasta> sigh
[13:29:39] <linderox> i typed home_mailbox=./.maildir
[13:30:13] <linderox> or i should use ".maildir"?
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[13:30:38] <shasta> both would mean delivery to a mailbox, not maildir
[13:31:05] <shasta> man 5 postconf, see what home_mailbox is.
[13:33:30] <linderox> ~ # man postconf | grep Maildir say me nothing about maildir
[13:33:30] <linderox>
[13:34:13] <linderox> man postconf | grep home_ the same
[13:35:30] <shasta> because you failed to do what I asked you to do
[13:37:41] <shasta> when we tell you to do 'man 5 postconf', you're supposed to do 'man 5 postconf' and NOT 'man postconf | grep foobar'; exactly the same way when we ask you to do 'rm -rf /tmp/foobar' you should NOT do 'rm -rf /'
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[14:01:40] <rob0> !maildir
[14:01:41] <knoba> rob0: "maildir" : a mailbox format introduced by qmail where emails are saved as individual files in a directory structure rather than into a single flat text file. Postfix settings like !home_mailbox and !virtual_mailbox_maps will allow delivery to maildir if the path value returned ends in /
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[14:17:27] <cpm> maildir is of qmail origin?
[14:17:32] <cpm> this I didn't know
[14:17:48] <cpm> why did I think it had it's roots in nntp
[14:19:01] <cpm> I mean it almost looks like 'per-file' net news
[14:19:50] <cpm> right down to the '.'   hierarchy
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[14:20:16] <f3ew> nope
[14:20:20] <f3ew> It's a DJB invention
[14:20:26] <shasta> maildir is the only good thing djb invented ;)
[14:21:15] <Trengo> nntp was always one file per article wasnt it?
[14:21:43] <Trengo> there's even a "news"-type of filesystem setup
[14:21:53] <Trengo> many inodes small block
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[14:23:01] <cpm> Trengo, you could set it up as one file per article yeah
[14:23:11] <cpm> which is where I thought maildir came from. Silly me.
[14:23:20] <cpm> well, good job DJB, it's a good system
[14:23:30] <Trengo> its the only setup i've ever seen
[14:24:18] <cpm> http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/software/inn/docs-2.4/install.html#S6
[14:24:29] <rob0> Yup, one clearly positive contribution to email. There were possibly others, but his ego and mistakes tended to blur those.
[14:25:13] <cpm> cool. Now I can think good thoughts.
[14:25:17] <cpm> must not think bad thoughts
[14:25:21] <rob0> I think it's at least partly true that qmail's design inspired Postfix.
[14:26:11] <Trengo> cpm :) tradspool ftw
[14:26:17] <cpm> Trengo, yup
[14:26:19] <Trengo> everything else scares me
[14:27:12] <rob0> The chief difference being that Wietse stuck with it until he got it right, and DJB got bored (or whatever) and declared his flawed project "perfect".
[14:27:23] <cpm> it's all pretty scary, tradspool works really well. many years ago, I used it for my mailman archives using mailnews gateway, it's really clean and nice. i tried, -oh so hard- to use nntp in-house instead of email, , , what a waste of time
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[14:40:23] <Rowellen> Hi, how do I stop postfix/smtp from relaying mail?
[14:40:38] <mwalling> postfix stop
[14:40:45] * mwalling ducks
[14:40:54] <onre> :D
[14:41:22] <Rowellen> maybe...
[14:41:40] <mwalling> no, postfix stop *will* stop postfix from relaying mail
[14:42:27] <cpm> postfix relays mail, that's what it does, if it's not stopped, it will relay, you must stop it!
[14:42:42] <Rowellen> no I dont want to stop postfix
[14:43:00] <mwalling> if you're an open relay, you should until you can figure out what you're doing
[14:43:27] <cpm> ah, an 'open' relay, that's a gift horse of spam color.
[14:43:28] <Rowellen> not an open relay
[14:43:48] * cpm tries to restrain himself.
[14:43:48] <mwalling> well. thats the first we heard you werent
[14:43:54] <rob0> That being a wide-open and probably unresearched question, you must narrow it down before you can hope for a useful answer.
[14:44:48] <cpm> Rowellen, what is your intent?
[14:44:52] <Rowellen> sorry I want to set up a local mail server only
[14:45:24] <f3ew> !basic
[14:45:24] <knoba> f3ew: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[14:46:26] <rob0> comment out the smtp(8) lines in master.cf, restart
[14:46:40] * cpm comments out rob0
[14:46:47] <rob0> #rob0
[14:47:06] <rob0> Curses! Octothorped again!
[14:48:23] <munga> hi, can I use a script for a dynamic map in the same way I can use mysql: ... or ldap: ... ?
[14:49:22] <rob0> munga: not exactly, see DB_README. But perhaps you could do it like a policy service?
[14:50:38] <munga> my problem is that to run a custom transport I've to add an empty local_recipient_maps ... since this transport is for a mailing list server (sympa)
[14:50:54] <munga> I'd like to generate the local recepients dynamically...
[14:51:41] <rob0> !policy
[14:51:41] <knoba> rob0: Error: "policy" is not a valid command.
[14:51:57] <cpm> So, a neutron walks into a bar, , ,
[14:52:17] <rob0> "For you, no charge!" says the bartender.
[14:53:07] <rob0> "Sorry, we don't serve ropes here," says the bartender.
[14:53:31] <cpm> These two helium atoms are walking down the street, , ,
[14:54:24] <rob0> "I've lost an electron!" says one to the other. "Are you sure?"
[14:54:24] <cpm> no sir,I'm a frayed knot,gimme a beer
[14:54:33] <cpm> I'm positive!
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[14:55:42] <f3ew> rofl
[14:58:39] <recw> hi2all - after configuring postfix with dovecot - postfix refuses connections - any ideas? it seems me that master.cf not correctly configured - here it is http://pastebin.ru/294974
[14:59:34] <rob0> That's meaningless without seeing the logs of the problem.
[14:59:55] <recw> wait a minute)
[15:02:37] <cpm> !learn questions as "Please review this guide http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc"
[15:02:46] <cpm> !questions
[15:02:47] <knoba> cpm: "questions" : Please review this guide http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc
[15:03:33] <cpm> !tell rob0 questions
[15:05:00] <robtone_> 1learn "/(^pastebin).*any ideas?.*(^pastebin)/ as ...
[15:07:58] <recw> unfortunately - there nothing to look at in logs - no lines at all devoted to postfix errs: only refusial answer, when I try "telnet 192.168.0.13 25"
[15:08:41] <rob0> In that case you must fix your syslogd, because Postfix logs everything it does.
[15:10:04] <Rowellen> thanks
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[15:11:16] <f3ew> connection refused generally indicates that nothing is listening to the port
[15:11:20] <recw> yep - here is only messages like this http://pastebin.ru/294975
[15:12:44] <recw> f3ew: i also think that the problem emerges when it tries to work with dovecot
[15:14:11] <rob0> Syntax errors. The master.cf is missing leading whitespace on line 2. And myhostname is wrong in main.cf ("localhost" would seem to be an unusual choice for myhostname anyway.)
[15:14:45] <Aw0L> is it better to have a catch-all mailbox for non-existent recipients, or just let them get rejected?
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[15:16:13] <rob0> Catchalls are a seriously bad idea. Definitely, reject bad recipients.
[15:18:48] <recw> rob0: ok  -yep it's better to reject bad recipients, where to change parametres
[15:25:19] <recw> is that right - when 127.0.0.1 defines as my domain free-nx.com?
[15:25:31] <recw> in /etc/hosts
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[15:29:13] <Aw0L> rob0, well that makes it easier - but why exactly is it a bad idea to have a catchall?
[15:31:00] <recw> Aw0L: maybe cause it's no reason to catch mail that has incorrect recipient..
[15:31:08] <rob0> After your first dictionary attack from a spammer, one reason will become abundantly clear.
[15:32:13] <rob0> If a human is reviewing the catchall, it works for misspelled localparts. But if it's discarded, a misspelled localpart is lost.
[15:32:50] <Aw0L> it'll make people type correctly I suppose
[15:33:43] <Aw0L> I'm a little lost on the dictionary attack thing - wouldn't spammers not know which addresses are real and which are fake?
[15:33:52] <Aw0L> fake = non-existent
[15:33:52] <rob0> If I type "awol at your dot domain" and the real address is "aw0l at your dot domain", I would know right away that I messed up.
[15:35:44] <rob0> Spammers care little for accuracy. When using stolen resources, it costs nothing more to do a dictionary attack on the localpart.
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[15:37:03] <Aw0L> I think I need picture
[15:37:07] <Aw0L> but in any case - it's a bad idea
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[15:37:10] <Aw0L> thanks :)
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[15:42:23] <rob0> Dictionary attacks happen most commonly on big, universally known domains. I bet every major ISP and freemail provider sees them every day. My own personal domain was hit once a few years back, and the catchall was inundated in spam. Now I just reject the unknown recipients, so I don't even know if I'm getting dictionary attacks unless I look in logs.
[15:43:49] <rob0> The last one I took note of, a few months ago, was when my domain was used as sender addresses, so I got (and rejected) a wave of backscatter to bad recipients.
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[15:50:37] * cpm backscatters rob0 whenever he gets bored with nothing better to do
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[15:57:59] <rob0> CPMSCATTER_README
[16:03:34] <jMCg> CPMSCAT_
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[16:13:55] <cpm> oh, don't go there, really.
[16:14:09] <jduggan> lol
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[16:17:25] <servettas> hi guys
[16:17:57] <servettas> i have a problem about sending mail can anyone help me pls.
[16:18:09] <servettas> here error http://paste.ubuntu.com/24476/
[16:18:51] <rob0> !relay_denied
[16:18:52] <knoba> rob0: "relay_denied" : \"554 5.7.1 <RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN>: Relay access denied; from=<SENDER_ADDRESS> to=<RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN> proto=ESMTP helo=<HELO>\": This typically means that CLIENT_IP is not in mynetworks (and did not AUTH), and that RCPT_DOMAIN was not recognized as one of this Postfix's domains (not listed in mydestination, relay_domains or virtual_*_domains).
[16:18:56] <rob0> !basic
[16:18:56] <knoba> rob0: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
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[16:26:36] <servettas> can any one help me what is wrong pls http://paste.ubuntu.com/24479/
[16:26:48] <servettas> i can not sending any mail
[16:27:08] <lunaphyte_> show entries from the log file.
[16:27:44] <servettas> looking relay acces error http://paste.ubuntu.com/24476/
[16:27:55] <servettas> but i do not know how can i solve
[16:28:01] <rob0> Ask questions here, READ REPLIES.
[16:28:50] <servettas> i can using webmail client but i can not using smpt
[16:28:57] <servettas> smtp
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[16:30:16] <servettas> this is error http://paste.ubuntu.com/24476/
[16:30:18] <servettas> and
[16:30:31] <servettas> main.cf filehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24479/
[16:30:40] <rob0> !tell servettas relay_denied
[16:30:44] <rob0> !tell servettas basic
[16:31:07] <servettas> rob0, i did http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html
[16:31:12] <servettas> lokking stiil
[16:31:16] <servettas> still
[16:31:46] <servettas> but really not understand therefore saying here
[16:36:51] <lunaphyte_> servettas: what is 88.249.71.190 ?
[16:37:07] <servettas> my server ip
[16:39:34] <lunaphyte_> your postfix server?
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[16:41:29] <servettas> lunaphyte, yes
[16:43:24] <rob0> Then how/why is it connecting to itself? And as per !relay_denied factoid, 88.249.71.190 is not in your mynetworks list.
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[16:48:45] <PcPixel> If I create a custom class, I can just list it as an action for postfix to use, correct?
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[16:49:23] <PcPixel> I've created one called verify_the_sender chich has: check_sender_access hash:valid_sender_domains, reject_unverified_sender
[16:49:46] <PcPixel> can i just then replace reject_unverified_sender with verify_the_sender in my smtpd_recipient_restrictions?
[16:50:05] <rob0> Class, meaning restriction_classes ? Yes, you can use those names as access(5) targets.
[16:50:51] <PcPixel> the problem im vahing, is we have a valid sender that is using an address that is failing the reject_unverified_sender
[16:51:11] <PcPixel> i wanted to create a wrapper around reject_unverified_sender that basically said if youre in that file, youre fine
[16:51:18] <PcPixel> otherwise, reject_unverified_sender
[16:51:44] <PcPixel> would it be: check_sender_access verify_the_sender ?
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[16:54:14] <PcPixel> ive got the bandwidth & cpu cycles to continue verifying every sender, but i need a way to greenlight certain ones known to be good that cant be verified
[16:55:16] <PcPixel> or maybe im just too frazzled right now... if I put the: check_sender_access hash:valid_sender before the reject_unverified_sender and there is a match, reject_unverified_sender wont get execurted, correct?
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[17:03:04] <PcPixel> yeah, i think my mind just got racing too much... i think that would do it
[17:05:25] <servettas> rob0, i can not understand you can you tell me what must i do ?
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[17:08:41] <moamahi> hi all I'm tryng to use postfix from outside my lan but when I try to send an email it does't work it's not a firewall problem becouse I see the log. I'm just not allowed to access my smtp. I've checked http://www.open-xchange.com/wiki/index.php?title=Open_Xchange_Installation#V.3._Con%20figuring_Postfix in the parts of sasl and postfix and everything is ok ...
[17:11:07] <moamahi> main.cf http://rafb.net/p/Q6zkI344.html master.cf http://rafb.net/p/0xgR5N84.html
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[17:54:05] <ma3x> if i put name1: name2 in /etc/aliases, it's accepting it for ALL hostnames! what if there are 2 'name' users on a different host? how do i specify the hostname too?
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[18:03:35] <Velmont> Hello, I need mailman into my server; right now DSPAM is used as a content_filter on SMTP and delivering HAM to deliver, and SPAM to deliver -m junk.  However, I now need to shortcut all mail coming in from    lists.example.net   to mailman, because I don't want dspam and dovecot to care about the lists.      How can I make all mail from lists.example.net NOT go through the standard smtp content_filter?
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[18:08:43] <cpm> Velmont, reinject mailman after the content filter.
[18:08:54] <cpm> I bring mailman back in with the content filter port
[18:09:19] <cpm> so that only the original post goes through the content filter
[18:11:40] <servettas> can anyone help me pls
[18:11:50] <Velmont> How do you mean? ---- -o content_filter=mailman   before -o content_filter=lmtp:unix:/var/dspam.sock   ?
[18:11:59] <servettas> this is main.cf file http://paste.ubuntu.com/24479/
[18:12:07] <servettas> here error http://paste.ubuntu.com/24476/
[18:12:19] <servettas> i can using webmail client but i can not using smpt
[18:12:27] <servettas> smpt not sending mail
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[18:13:35] <Velmont> servettas: what's up with the dollar sign?  :   smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated, reject_unauth_destination, reject_unknown_recipient_domain, reject_unverified_re$
[18:13:53] <cpm> Velmont, my content filter comes back on port 10025, so I put my mailman traffic to port 10025, (allowing it in master.cf of course) done.
[18:14:23] <cpm> mm_cfg.py:SMTPPORT = 10025
[18:14:34] <servettas> Velmont, breaking line
[18:14:40] <cpm> so it comes in after the content filter, do you see?
[18:15:09] <cpm> and please use a pastebin for code examples, for those of us with tiny terminals :)
[18:16:03] <servettas> Velmont, reject_unverified_reied_recipient
[18:16:38] <servettas> Velmont, reject_unverified_recipient
[18:17:59] <Velmont> servettas: Well, -- I'm not into postfix. I could've found synax errors in the config file, -- but I don't think I can help you further now :)
[18:18:50] <servettas> :)
[18:19:13] <Velmont> cpm: Hmm. Yes. -- But dspam and dovecot is pretty well integrated. I don't want to send emails back to postfix. --- I want to use a different transport for lists.example.com and example.com from the beginning. :-) I feel that would be easier.
[18:20:01] <cpm> you have to use a different transport to get to mailman, but in order to have mailman deliver the list mail, it has to go to the MTA. mailman is *not* an MTA
[18:20:46] <cpm> but these are mailman issues, not postfix issues, perhaps you want to take this to #mailman?
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[18:42:02] <recw> can anybody help me - the question is - why postfix refuses connections?
[18:42:08] <recw> http://pastebin.ru/294979
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[18:43:45] <shasta> "refuses connections" isn't very specific error message
[18:44:13] <recw> its when i try "telnet free-nx.com 25"
[18:45:16] <Dewi> recw: either it's not running, not bound to the interface you're connecting to, not listening on that port, or there is a firewall in the way
[18:45:51] <shasta> Trying 212.49.125.18...
[18:45:52] <shasta> Connected to free-nx.com.
[18:45:52] <shasta> Escape character is '^]'.
[18:45:52] <shasta> Connection closed by foreign host.
[18:46:20] <Dewi> that's not rejected
[18:46:56] <Dewi> but it is dropping the connection right away
[18:47:11] <Dewi> s/rejected/refused/
[18:47:21] <recw> yep - it listened good, but after conjuction with dovecot i startede to see that refusal
[18:48:18] <shasta> !logs
[18:48:19] <knoba> shasta: "logs" : by default, postfix logs to the mail facility of syslog. Something like grep -i `postconf -h syslog_facility` /etc/syslog.conf or grep -rl `postconf -h syslog_name` /var/log/* should tell you where logs are going.
[18:50:23] <recw> ok..5 sec
[18:52:13] <recw> http://pastebin.ru/294980
[18:53:11] <shasta> Jul  2 03:06:03 localhost postfix/trivial-rewrite[4589]: warning: do not list domain free-nx.com in BOTH mydestination and virtual_mailbox_domains
[18:53:40] <shasta> anyway, that's not what you was supposed to paste
[18:53:55] <shasta> grep postfix /var/log/maillog, probably
[18:56:15] <recw> here) http://pastebin.ru/294981
[18:57:15] <recw> i've configured all using this article http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-etch/#virtual-domains-in-a-database
[18:58:10] <recw> and started to recieve refusings after linking with dovecot in master.cf file:(
[18:58:43] <Velmont> cpm: I made it by using:  virtual_transport=lmtp:unix:/var/dspam    and     relay_transport=mailman... Wey!
[19:01:10] <shasta> Jul  2 19:55:14 localhost postfix[6751]: warning: valid_hostname: invalid
[19:01:10] <shasta> character 35(decimal): localhost#free-nx.com
[19:01:53] <shasta> recw, anyway, there's no sign of me connecting to your postfix there
[19:02:00] <tmus> after updating a table and performing a postmap tablefile, do I need to reload postfix or will the changes be picked up automagically?
[19:02:15] <recw> shasta: i've already changed that - now "#hostname -f" shows free-nx.com
[19:02:54] <shasta> tmus, IIRC only pcre: and regexp: need that special treatment
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[19:03:13] <shasta> as they're read into memory
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[19:14:55] <recw> here is mine master - seems correct http://pastebin.ru/294982
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[19:16:14] <PcPixel> does an OK from a check_recipient_access short out any tests following it?
[19:17:41] <PcPixel> i have this in my restrictions: http://pastebin.com/da971ba0
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[19:18:11] <PcPixel> but im concerned that the check_recipient_access before reject_unauth_destination is causing the rest of the checks not to occur
[19:19:58] <PcPixel> the same goes for an OK from check_sender_access just above erject_unverified_sender
[19:20:14] <jduggan> dunno
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[19:26:59] <PcPixel> nope
[19:27:03] <PcPixel> looks like they are still occuring
[19:27:24] <PcPixel> i implimented a restriction by exporting my GAL from Exchange into files
[19:27:44] <tmus> shasta, cool, thanks
[19:27:51] <PcPixel> so basically, accept for only addresses i tell you
[19:27:59] <PcPixel> but iwas fraid by adding that in
[19:28:07] <PcPixel> i shorted out the rest of the tests
[19:28:10] <PcPixel> but i can see them occuring
[19:29:02] <PcPixel> i have to say; postfix frickin rocks
[19:29:10] <PcPixel> my boss has analyzed my postifx configuration
[19:29:23] <PcPixel> and just by using what it ships with (no additional antispam software)
[19:29:38] <PcPixel> i've dropped out spam count 30,000 emails in 3 days
[19:30:09] <PcPixel> out=our
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[19:37:27] <jelly> Hi.  What would be the best way to check rbls _unless_ the user authed?
[19:39:26] <jelly> ... aaand to answer my own question add permit_sasl_authenticated before the rbl check
[19:43:32] <jduggan> jelly: put your restrictions in the right place :)
[19:43:58] <jelly> right, I've learnt that order matters
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[19:51:29] <lunaphyte_> but chaos rules.
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[19:53:11] <ullio> hello. what is the best way to filter dsn mails? if i recall, header check for Return-Path: <> won't work because this header is added by .. was it cleanup?
[19:57:17] <jelly> backscatter sucks.
[19:58:02] <PcPixel> dsn?
[19:58:20] <ullio> delivery status notification
[19:58:21] <jelly> !dsn
[19:58:22] <knoba> jelly: "dsn" : Delivery Status Notifications - See: http://linuxnet.ca/postfix/docs/DSN_README.html
[19:58:47] <PcPixel> wow, ya learn somethin every day! :)
[19:59:04] * cpm does it with a header check
[19:59:39] <Jense> ullio: have a look at http://taint.org/2007/05/30/164456a.html
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[20:01:46] <hparker> !backscatter
[20:01:46] <knoba> hparker: "backscatter" : http://www.postfix.org/BACKSCATTER_README.html
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[20:02:24] <cpm> !hparker
[20:02:25] <knoba> cpm: "hparker" : is a shining example of chivalry and champaign (but still b0rk3n)
[20:03:39] <hparker> ;)
[20:04:05] <hparker> How goes cpm?
[20:04:14] <cpm> goes
[20:04:15] <ullio> thanks
[20:04:16] <cpm> U?
[20:04:48] <hparker> Couple of shots and a shower and i'm almost walking
[20:04:53] <rob0> http://linuxnet.ca/postfix/docs/DSN_README.html ??
[20:04:55] <cpm> nice
[20:05:19] <hparker> yeah.. this back thing is sucking
[20:05:27] <cpm> quite indeed
[20:05:45] * cpm goes for massages a lot, only thing keeping me out of a wheelchair I think
[20:06:30] <hparker> I was going to the chiro till I figured out he was busting me up for free... I can't have someone working for nothing
[20:07:13] <hparker> we've known each other for years, and he's been a good customer.. Don't want to mess up the relationship
[20:09:36] <cpm> heh
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[20:19:41] <netcrash> Hello , Anyone here ever used maildrop + mysql to support quotas ?
[20:22:08] <netcrash> I'm having a bit of trouble since it seems it supports mysql but I can't figure out how to configure it , no howto man page points to how it should be done...
[20:22:26] <mwalling> isnt maildrop part of courior?
[20:26:12] <netcrash> yes , but since nobody is answering ... :S
[20:27:46] <netcrash> I've blocked ...
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[20:35:10] <ma3x> hello
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[20:41:47] <maniacxs> Hi, i have a strange problem after configuring postfix to use mysql. All mail that is send to the internet gets relay=virtual
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[20:54:57] <PcPixel> is there a way to send along a custom message when you use the "reject" statement in a class defenition?
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[21:05:18] <ullio> is there a list of supported status codes for postfix (from content filters?) i came across tempfail and unavailable, what if i want postfix to discard the message?
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[21:20:04] <ullio> or are content filters printing their descision to stdout, like DISCAR blah?
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[21:23:17] <Rabble_Leader> wow!  a lot of silent people in here
[21:25:04] <Rabble_Leader> humms ... is there anybody in there ....?
[21:28:43] <recw> does anybody know - why postfix not listening 25 port? firewalls disabled...just what place of config is responsiple?
[21:32:00] <cpm> netstat -nuat | grep '\:25'
[21:32:35] <Rabble_Leader> oh no.  nerds.  I shoulda figured.
[21:33:16] <recw> cpm: no output - like nothing listening
[21:34:18] <cpm> k
[21:34:23] <cpm> postfix running?
[21:34:27] <cpm> doesn't sound like it
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[21:34:51] <devdas> !standard
[21:34:52] <knoba> devdas: "standard" : Your question is probably answered in http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html
[21:34:55] <devdas> !basic
[21:34:55] <cpm> morning devdas
[21:34:55] <knoba> devdas: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
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[21:35:11] <Mousey> what's postfix?
[21:35:17] <Mousey> jk!
[21:35:19] <cpm> that other thing
[21:35:40] <Mousey> i figured out sieve! /me huggles #cyrus
[21:35:45] <Mousey> ta ta
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[21:36:32] <Rabble_Leader> ah ... finally.  Some news I can use.  Thanx knoba
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[21:37:06] <recw> cpm: yep - postfix started normally
[21:37:40] <devdas> hey cpm
[21:38:07] <Rabble_Leader> you guys are ignoring me because I'm not registered or something.  Right?
[21:38:24] <cpm> !questions
[21:38:25] <knoba> cpm: "questions" : Please review this guide http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc
[21:38:50] <devdas> Rabble_Leader: what are your questions?
[21:39:24] <Rabble_Leader> frankly ... if I j=knew what the question was ... I could probably find the answer.
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[21:39:59] <Rabble_Leader> why doesn't evolution get my mail even though I know postfix is working?  How's that?
[21:40:13] <recw> cpm: any ideas?
[21:40:57] <Rabble_Leader> I think maybe evolution is looking in the wrong place. is looking in the wrong place
[21:42:01] <devdas> Rabble_Leader: that's a pop3/imap server issue
[21:42:09] <Rabble_Leader> I test postfix on terminal and everything seems ok.  But evolution never finds mail that I know is stored in user directory
[21:42:12] <devdas> Where does the POP3 server expect the mail to be?
[21:42:18] <devdas> Tell Postfix to deliver there
[21:43:01] <Rabble_Leader> noe there's a question I can't answer.  I don't know where evolution thinks it should be
[21:43:33] <Rabble_Leader> I guess I'll have to do more research on my own.  Thanks.
[21:43:43] <devdas> not evolution, your IMAP/POP3 server
[21:44:10] <Rabble_Leader> courier?
[21:44:33] <devdas> are you sure?
[21:44:52] <Rabble_Leader> that's what I installed to enable pop and imap
[21:45:20] <devdas> ok, it expects ~user/Maildir/ by default
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[21:45:42] <Rabble_Leader> I also think I may have screwed up because I did something to mkdir, but isn't evo looking for mbox format?
[21:45:47] <devdas> Is Maildir a file in the user's home, or a directory containing cur new and tmp as subdirectories?
[21:45:50] <devdas> no
[21:46:15] <Rabble_Leader> it is in the users home dir
[21:46:35] <Rabble_Leader> I know it's receiving the mail too
[21:46:37] <olliu> at wich stage exactly does postfix generate a message id if the delivered mail does not contain one?
[21:46:54] <devdas> In cleaup, IIRC
[21:47:02] <Rabble_Leader> I can't answer that question.  Over my head
[21:47:16] <devdas> _where_ in the homedir?
[21:48:13] <Rabble_Leader> no.  the mail is coming in and going to the maildir.  Evo just isn't getting it when I say to.  Doesn't creat an error message either though.  That's why I'm stumped.
[21:50:31] <devdas> Is evo trying to directly read the mbox file? or connect via IMAP?
[21:50:37] <devdas> Can you create an IMAP account?
[21:50:43] <Rabble_Leader> ok.  here's a question.  I wanna purge whatever I've done so I can start over.  Is ther a log I can look at that will guide me in backtracking?
[21:51:05] <devdas> postconf -n tells you what you have changed from the default config
[21:52:23] <Rabble_Leader> ah ... that might be helpful.   It's great to meet you guys.  Another question.  What were they talking about in the other forum saying I wasn't logged in.  I mean I'm in black.  Is that what it means.  a
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[21:52:39] <devdas> asre you identified to nickserv?
[21:52:41] <devdas> are*
[21:52:47] <devdas>  /msg nickserv help
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[21:54:16] <Rabble_Leader> just what I needed   LOL  a lotta more stuff to figure out.  Thanks devdas
[21:54:27] <devdas> yw
[21:54:51] <Rabble_Leader> cyaround
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[22:20:47] <kombi> in my main.cf I have check_recipient_access hash:/etc/mail/recipient_access and in recipient_access I have bluepill at redpill dot com REJECT. Still in mailq I find tons of messages to that address. What might I be doing wrong?
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[22:35:46] <sysmonk> kombi: 1. mails could be lying there from before the rule 2. rule order does matter
[22:37:06] <kombi> sysmonk: 1. also checked last week, 2. rule is first under smtpd_recipient_restrictions, must it be elsewhere?
[22:38:52] <sysmonk> kombi: did you reload postfix after creating the rule?
[22:38:53] <sysmonk> ;)
[22:39:45] <kombi> oh yes, many times...
[22:40:01] <sysmonk> oh no, many times is wrong ;)
[22:40:24] <sysmonk> kombi: get a message id from mailq and do postcat -q ID
[22:40:27] <sysmonk> pastebin that
[22:40:34] <sysmonk> then postconf -n and pastebin it too
[22:40:43] <sysmonk> and also cat /etc/mail/recipient_access && pastebin it
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[22:45:20] <kombi> sysmonk: http://pastebin.se/195144
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[22:49:13] <sysmonk> kombi: original_recipient: accounting at bull-it dot de
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[22:49:48] <kombi> so only that one is seen? that indeed explains it..!
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[22:50:27] <kombi> I should block that one too then, thanks very much for looking at my mess, sysmonk!
[22:50:36] <sysmonk> the original recipient is that one
[22:50:41] <sysmonk> postfix looks at it
[22:50:46] <sysmonk> and only then does rewriting
[22:50:50] <sysmonk> (aliases)
[22:51:06] <sysmonk> and np ;)
[22:52:47] <kombi> doing a bit of postcat -q I saw, that they use a different original recipient each time, sigh...
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[22:54:30] <jimi_> All of the mail being delivered is off by 6 hours. Is this a postfix setting? Or a local setting?
[22:55:08] <jimi_> date
[22:55:13] <jimi_> Wed Jul  2 22:54:19 EDT 2008
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[23:00:11] <sysmonk> kombi: catchall? :)
[23:01:02] <kombi> sysmonk: unfortunately there are some users insisting on them
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[23:27:04] <olliu> hmm. how can i make my content filter telling postfix that the mail got dumped?
[23:28:15] <adaptr> try #content-filter ?
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[23:30:12] <olliu> ?
[23:31:42] <adaptr> "hi, I'm using X; how can I tell Y to do Z?"
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[23:34:23] <olliu> well, yes, problem is, that beyond the mere information how a content-filter wrapper could look like - as written in the filter readme - it gives no infomation about the way, the content filter talks back to postfix.
[23:37:23] <olliu> i would like to report back to postfix - tgetting it into the logfile - that a mail got discarded so i can see what happened to it - rather then message accepted for delivery wich appears to be postfix interpretation of exit code 0
[23:37:52] <olliu> (returned from the content filter process)
[23:38:21] <adaptr> a content filter should return to postfix what it received, i.e. an RFC2822 message
[23:38:41] <adaptr> and there are  a few optional variables that can be passed both ways, but not a lot
[23:39:49] <mattx86> is it possible to specify allowed sender domains (locally hosted domains) for specific recipients (eg, spam and ham addresses) in postfix?
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[23:40:27] <adaptr> are these recipients locally known ? i.e. do they belong in your domain(s)?
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[23:40:35] <olliu> in the example the mail gets dropped with EX_TEMPFAIL if bad, exit 0 + sendmailed if good. now, if my content filter built along this pattern comes alon a bad mail i need postfix not to write "service temp. unavailable but rather something like his mail is bad.
[23:40:59] <olliu> his=this
[23:41:08] <adaptr> olliu: postfix will not do that if you set TEMPFAIL
[23:41:18] <adaptr> so drop it with another status
[23:41:26] <olliu> good point. but what status should i choose
[23:41:28] <adaptr> 550 REJECT usually does the trick
[23:41:35] <olliu> i looked over sysexit.h
[23:41:40] <adaptr> there's probably a list somewhere
[23:41:43] <olliu> nothingplausible
[23:42:17] <olliu> i googled till my fingers bleed for status codes to use to communicate to postfix caller. to no avail.
[23:42:17] <mattx86> adaptr: yes
[23:42:48] <adaptr> mattx86: it is always permitted to send mail between locally-owned domains
[23:44:19] <adaptr> olliu: UNAVAILABLE returns a 5xx Service Unavailable to the client, which is standard for spam
[23:44:31] <adaptr> and blacklisting etc.
[23:45:35] <mattx86> adaptr: I want to restrict sender access to local domains only, for the spam and ham recipient addresses.  I want to avoid the possibility of a spammer teaching our server that his spams are ham.
[23:46:30] <adaptr> mattx86: if you have spammers among your locally-owned domains, you have bigger problems to worry about
[23:48:01] <mattx86> adaptr: true, but that's not what I'm getting at.  see, if remote domains are *also* allowed to send e-mail to our spam and ham training addresses, well, that's bad.
[23:48:29] <adaptr> oh
[23:50:26] <mattx86> if they don't have a local e-mail account, they shouldn't be allowed to train our spam system  :)
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[23:51:26] <adaptr> well, if these training addys are virtual, then you can restrict senders quite easily
[23:53:33] <mattx86> the training addys involve using a combination of transport_maps and it's own transport in master.cf
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[23:54:18] <mattx86> the transport just runs a script based on which address it was sent to (spam or ham at domain dot tld)
[23:55:34] <mattx86> so technically, I could modify the script to query a list of virtual domains
[23:55:52] <mattx86> I was just hoping for a shortcut in postfix  ;)
[23:56:31] <mattx86> I know there's sender and recipient access, but I don't know that you can do what I'm wanting with that
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