[00:01:52] <devdas> Generally a namespace is where you store your variable data names
[00:02:09] <devdas> not sure of the dovecot option
[00:04:33] <duli> devdas: hum...
[00:05:23] <adaptr> duli: it's an IMAP concept, but similar to all other namespaces in that it separates identical names from each other
[00:06:05] <adaptr> in IMAP, you must have tha INBOX namespace, which is the default, but you can define others, even though not a lot of clients understand them.. certainly not OutHouse, which doesn't even do IMAP INBOXes properly
[00:06:10] <devdas> ah
[00:06:29] <devdas> and then yuo can have shared namespaces
[00:06:33] <duli> adptr: hum, thanks.. Yes, it's IMAP
[00:06:41] <adaptr> (Outhouse allows you to create additional top-level folders next to INBOX, but not part of the top-level namespace)
[00:07:26] <duli> I'm trying to translate this word to my language, but it's difficult since we don't have a word for it, so I need to understand the concept
[00:07:43] <adaptr> which language is that ?
[00:07:53] <duli> pt_BR
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[00:08:48] <adaptr> portuguese does not have a word for "namespace" ? of course it does
[00:09:06] <duli> adptr: not that I know of :)
[00:09:29] <duli> adptr: From the user point of view, a namspace would be like a folder? Imap folder?
[00:10:03] <adaptr> no
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[00:10:20] <adaptr> the namespace itself is the mailbox, that holds everything
[00:10:34] <adaptr> you can have folders under it, but conceptually it is not a folder
[00:10:50] <duli> Hum
[00:10:50] <adaptr> practically, as far as your client is concerned, they appear as folders
[00:10:53] <duli> "A set of names in which all names are unique."
[00:10:57] <adaptr> yes
[00:11:34] <duli> Ok, so does "Combine all namespaces" would mean?
[00:11:35] <adaptr> IOW, a proper set
[00:11:51] <duli> ops, what does*
[00:12:06] <adaptr> it means that it will show all IMAP namespaces under one INBOX structure, whether they are your mailbox, or shared folders, or whatever
[00:12:16] <adaptr> and it works as long as the names are unique
[00:12:35] <adaptr> which version of dovecot is this ? I don't recall seeing that option
[00:12:43] <duli> hum, ok
[00:12:54] <duli> just a min, it's the default version for centos 5
[00:13:16] <duli> no no, but this option I just mentioned is not from dovecot
[00:13:28] <duli> it's from horde, which i'm using combined with dovecot
[00:14:02] <duli> but dovecot does have options for namespace
[00:15:31] <adaptr> hum
[00:15:57] <duli> And definetly there isn't a word for it in portuguese... :(
[00:16:36] <duli> thanks for the help
[00:19:14] <Trengo> it would be just "space"
[00:20:16] <duli> Trengo: still wouldn't make sense to the end-user
[00:20:18] <Trengo> or "space of names"
[00:20:20] <Trengo> it wouldnt
[00:20:22] <Trengo> it doesnt
[00:20:49] <Trengo> not even to english-speakers
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[00:21:43] <duli> Trengo: yes, that's the trouble... It's a computer specif word
[00:21:54] <Trengo> very
[00:22:05] <Trengo> nerds and mathematicians understand it
[00:22:09] <duli> Hehhehee
[00:22:18] <Trengo> secretaries and lawyers dont
[00:22:44] <duli> How am I supposed to translate: "How should namespaces be displayed in the folder tree view"?
[00:22:54] <duli> I mean, even in english?
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[00:24:24] <Trengo> well i know some portuguese guys who worked with dovecot
[00:24:32] <Trengo> ask them =)
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[02:51:19] <JoaoCarneiro> higuita, ainda ai estas?
[02:52:16] <higuita> yep
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[02:53:52] <JoaoCarneiro> posso pvt?
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[03:03:41] <mwalling> english?
[03:05:49] <JoaoCarneiro> mwalling, sorry about that
[03:06:57] <JoaoCarneiro> i saw an old mate answering to someone and could not resist in asking him to participate in an event that is happening here at portugal in august
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[03:29:06] <cgibin> i get what it saying how would i fix it? failed: create maildir http://pastebin.com/m76c62b33
[03:30:54] <adaptr> postfix needs permission to create files and directories in your maildir location
[03:31:39] <adaptr> and /nonexistent/Maildir/tmp/1214700031.P7717.caddy.longway.com is most likely not a valid location
[03:31:52] <adaptr> !maildir
[03:31:53] <knoba> adaptr: "maildir" : a mailbox format introduced by qmail where emails are saved as individual files in a directory structure rather than into a single flat text file. Postfix settings like !home_mailbox and !virtual_mailbox_maps will allow delivery to maildir if the path value returned ends in /
[03:32:09] <adaptr> or, what is that set to
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[03:43:27] <cgibin> thank you adaptr,
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[03:47:40] <cgibin> its set to home_mailbox = Maildir/
[03:48:55] <higuita> cgibin: and does the home dir for that user exists?
[03:50:14] <adaptr> doesn't look like it
[03:50:20] <cgibin> doesnt exists, so user for that maildir should be home_mailbox = /home/cgibin
[03:51:05] <adaptr> no, it will not , ever, not NEVER work
[03:51:12] <adaptr> you need to pre-create homedirs
[03:51:14] <adaptr> always
[03:51:46] <adaptr> and don't touch postfix options you don't know about
[03:51:52] <cgibin> i see,  mkdir /usr/local/virtual/bal
[03:52:12] <cgibin> agree adaptr
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[03:54:12] <Cyllene> rob0: User submission. That is what I want to control.
[03:55:00] <adaptr> who doesn't ? but the buggers just don't listen
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[03:57:30] <Cyllene> How about this, can I specify a different main.cf file in master.cf?
[03:58:39] <adaptr> where ?
[03:58:43] <adaptr> !master
[03:58:44] <knoba> adaptr: "master" : http://www.postfix.org/master.5.html
[03:59:08] <adaptr> there is only one type of option in master, and that is the transports to create
[03:59:27] <adaptr> you can start postfix with a different config file, or include one
[04:01:04] <Cyllene> "At a certain point, it might be easier to configure multiple instances of Postfix, instead of configuring multiple personalities via master.cf."
[04:01:44] <Cyllene> Multiple instances would require a lot of resources.
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[04:02:58] <adaptr> nonsense; postfix consumes next to nothing
[04:03:50] <adaptr> 5MB per process or so
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[04:05:55] <Cyllene> Yeah, 11MB per instance.
[04:06:09] <adaptr> depends on your connections
[04:06:19] <adaptr> each smtp and smtpd requires resources
[04:06:52] <Cyllene> Each instance requires a master, so it would be nice to consolidate them into one master.
[04:06:54] <adaptr> if you have 10 connections open at all times - meaning it'sa pretty heavily loaded server - you'd be looking at a few 100 MB per instance
[04:07:13] <adaptr> a master *is* an instance - if you run one master you only run one instance
[04:07:36] <Cyllene> Isn't that what I just said?
[04:08:53] <adaptr> no
[04:09:19] <adaptr> if you "consolidate them into one master" then you wouldn't be running multiple instances, which you say you want
[04:09:24] <Cyllene> Well
[04:09:33] <Cyllene> "so it would be nice to consolidate them into one master."
[04:10:07] <Cyllene> What I want is an argument I can pass to smtpd via master.cf that reads a completely different main.cf file.
[04:10:09] <adaptr> i.e. one instance
[04:10:23] <adaptr> no, separate copies, sorry
[04:10:32] <Cyllene> Is there a reason for that?
[04:11:01] <adaptr> because no application that uses sockets and pipes and fifos can do that ? those are filesystem objects that are bound to one particular process
[04:11:18] <adaptr> to whit, the master of that instance
[04:11:50] <adaptr> a second instance cannot re-use the first instance's resources
[04:12:13] <Cyllene> :|
[04:12:49] <Cyllene> A second instance would require more memory for all the processes.
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[04:13:33] <Cyllene> So since, by design, postfix can't read another main.cf file, I am going to have to put 1,000 -o arguments into master.cf
[04:13:57] <adaptr> well, no
[04:14:24] <adaptr> postfix doesn't have that many options, period - let alone options you can specify per-transport
[04:14:56] <Cyllene> 1,000 was a gross exaggeration.
[04:15:06] <adaptr> yes, it was
[04:15:07] <Cyllene> It means, "a bunch"
[04:16:30] <duli> ?higuita: o directa??? Didn't undesrtand that.. I'm quite sure "namespace" can't be translated to pt_BR...
[04:19:04] <higuita> duli: namespace dont have translation to an language, its the correct name already... if you want to translate to pt_*, "estrutura virtual" is the closest
[04:19:46] <duli> higuita: sure, I got that since it's a computer specif word
[04:20:07] <duli> higuita: I'll just leave it as it is, though it won't make sense to end-users
[04:20:42] <adaptr> they wouldn't understand it if it did make sense
[04:21:39] <duli> adaptr: yes...
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[04:36:07] <higuita> yep, namespace also dont make any sense to a english speaking user, so no difference to other languages
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[06:36:26] <sahil> i've got .forward+spam in a user's homedir, maillog shows that delivery attempt was made to username+spam at my dot hostname.org, and yet mail still appears in the user's inbox, not the spam directory which exists and contains mail that was, by hand, placed there by the user.
[06:37:07] <sahil> increased verbosity on local (in the master.cf) shows that the local delivery process *does* see the .forward+spam directory.  and recipient_delimiter is set to = + in main.cf.
[06:37:16] <sahil> what am i missing? :)
[06:42:04] <mwalling> magic sauce
[06:43:42] <sahil> sigh.
[06:43:48] <mwalling> :)
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[07:48:37] <internat85> sahil: have you got maildrop or some sort of rules that tell postfix not to put it in the standard folder but in a different one?
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[08:51:31] <rob0> sahil: yup, my guess would be Debian and mailbox_command bypassing .forward ... see "man local" for the order of priority.
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[14:58:36] <breeze> hi all..can someone tell me where i can set the RETURNPATH value in postfix? my problem is this:
[14:58:39] <breeze>  status=bounced (host mx0.gmx.de[213.165.64.100] said: 550 5.1.8 Cannot resolve your domain {mx006} (in reply to MAIL FROM command))
[14:59:40] <tta> hello. I have a trouble sending mail out from my postfix. Have an error "User unknown in virtial maibox table". Anybody can help me?
[14:59:41] <lennard> your question doesn't seem aal that related to your log-line to me
[15:01:44] <breeze> i have read in forums that the problem is caused within the value of returnpath...that seems correct, if i send myself a mail i see only my ipadress in returnpath
[15:02:01] <adaptr> breeze: postfix (i.e. the MTA) does not set a Return-Path
[15:02:20] <adaptr> but indeed, what does the error you post have to do with that ?
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[15:03:50] <sysmonk> adaptr: oh it does, it does! :)
[15:03:53] <breeze> ok then sorry, i dont know whats the error...as i sayed i googled around for that 550 message, and found everytime the answer that the return-path must be set to a domain name, not to an ipadress as it is on my setup...
[15:03:58] <rob0> !unknown_virtual
[15:03:58] <knoba> rob0: "unknown_virtual" : \"User unknown in virtual $X table\" means that the recipient domain was found in $virtual_$X_domains but the username@domain was not found in $virtual_$X_maps. ("$X" can be either alias or mailbox .)
[15:04:19] <adaptr> breeze: "cannot resolve your domain" is pretty specific
[15:04:20] <sysmonk> adaptr: :P
[15:04:26] <rob0> !basic
[15:04:26] <knoba> rob0: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[15:04:33] <rob0> breeze: ^^
[15:04:39] <lennard> breeze: does the ip you're mailing from has a reverse dns address?
[15:05:59] <adaptr> ICANHASRDNS
[15:06:12] <lennard> false
[15:06:51] <breeze> lennard: no it has not, i think thats the problem at all...the first time i started apache it has also shown me similar errors until i added  ServerName localhost in apache's conf
[15:07:03] <breeze> rob0 i read most of it :P
[15:07:08] <adaptr> breeze: your machine does not have ANY domain name, just an unqualified hostname
[15:07:12] <lennard> the apache error isnt really related
[15:07:20] <lennard> but I think thats where your problem comes from
[15:07:22] <adaptr> yes, it is
[15:07:28] <lennard> you really need a PTR on a mailserver :)
[15:07:28] <adaptr> it's exactly the same problem
[15:07:33] <adaptr> no, you don't
[15:07:47] <adaptr> read my lips: his postfix machine has NO DOMAIN NAME
[15:07:56] <lennard> *shrug*
[15:07:59] <lennard> if you say so :)
[15:08:06] <adaptr> 550 5.1.8 Cannot resolve your domain {mx006}
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[15:08:15] <adaptr> mx006 is not a valid domain name
[15:08:22] <lennard> mx006 is the mailserver saying that
[15:08:26] <lennard> its a loadbalanced thingy
[15:08:29] <adaptr> so his EHLO sucks, and therefor his mailname and myorigin suck
[15:08:36] <adaptr> excuse me ?
[15:08:39] <lennard> for debugging purposes it adds what server is handling the request
[15:08:45] <lennard> I know, it is confusing
[15:08:58] <lennard> 250 2.1.0 ok {mx003}
[15:09:04] <lennard> 250 mx0.gmx.net GMX Mailservices {mx050}
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[15:09:19] <rob0> breeze, describe in non-technical terms what you were trying to do.
[15:09:20] <lennard> thats just the wau mx0.gmx.net works :)
[15:09:24] <lennard> way*
[15:10:00] <rob0> How is it that you happened to be sending mail to GMX?
[15:11:13] <rob0> People who want to use console- & CLI-mode MUAs need to understand quite a bit about mail, unfortunately, it rarely "just works".
[15:11:20] <breeze> ok, you trying to say me there is no way to set up an "standard" domain on all outgoing mails?
[15:11:33] <adaptr> yes, there is, but you're not doing it
[15:11:42] <rob0> !myorigin
[15:11:42] <knoba> rob0: "myorigin" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The default domain name that locally-posted mail appears to come from, and that locally posted mail is delivered to. The default $myhostname, which is fine for small sites. If you run a domain with multiple machines, you should (1) change this to $mydomain and (2) set up a domain-wide alias database that aliases each user to user at that dot users.mailhost.
[15:11:43] <breeze> rob0 we are running a forum (phpbb) and on the registration it is sending emails :)
[15:11:48] <rob0> ahhhhhhh
[15:11:50] <adaptr> !append_dot_mydomain
[15:11:50] <knoba> adaptr: "append_dot_mydomain" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Append the string ".$mydomain" to addresses that have no ".domain" information.
[15:12:11] <adaptr> php mail! run! run like fuck!
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[15:12:35] <rob0> Anyway, if you had set myhostname and mydomain and myorigin appropriately as per !basic, you'd be fine.
[15:14:00] <tta> smtpd_recipient_rectrictions = permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated, postfix, reject_unauth_pipelining, reject_unauth_destination. Mail from outside goes well, but I steel cant send mail outside. I guess that broblem somewhere in virtual_... parameters, but I have no idea where I got mistake
[15:14:12] <tta> Sombody help me please %-)
[15:14:23] <tta> Somebody, of course.
[15:15:03] <breeze> yes yes, i understand that myorigin thing....but the problem is that i got other domains running on the same server, so i can not add domain1.org under myorigin, because if domain2.org try to send outgoing mail there is domain1.org shown in the recipient adress is it?
[15:15:39] <rob0> Your PHP thing is a mail client. Postfix will accept mail from it AS IT SENDS.
[15:15:53] <rob0> GIGO
[15:16:01] <adaptr> breeze: instruct php to send PROPERLY FORMATTED MAIL
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[15:16:12] <adaptr> postfix is innocent
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[15:17:40] <rob0> !tell tta unknown_virtual
[15:22:05] <sahil> rob0: are you around?
[15:22:37] <sahil> my .forward+spam is in homedir on a FreeBSD 7.0 machine; we don't use linux on our servers.  and mailbox_command is set to = Maildir/
[15:22:56] <adaptr> hello, you have reached rob0's virtual secretary; rob0 is not available to you at the moment - may I take a message ?
[15:23:24] <sahil> and the contents of .forward+spam are, well, there are no contents. :)  my understanding was that the local LDA (which is being used) delivers to the 'spam' folder.  but reading the local man page, that is not entirely clear.
[15:23:28] <sahil> :)
[15:23:30] <rob0> mailbox_command is set to = Maildir/ ?? That does not look like a "command" to me.
[15:23:31] <sahil> adaptr: shoo.
[15:24:05] <sahil> my bad, home_mailbox = Maildir/
[15:24:24] <sahil> prefuse apologies for typo. :)
[15:25:09] <sahil> mailbox_command is not set.  local(8) is doing delivery.
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[15:26:06] <rob0> no, you have to put a path to the mbox or maildir you want to deliver to.
[15:26:24] <adaptr> mailbox_command is what local USES
[15:27:30] <rob0> Your home_mailbox setting can be overridden if any higher-priority setting exists.
[15:27:52] <rob0> but in this case I think it was the empty .forward+spam file.
[15:28:34] <sahil> adaptr: last time: mailbox_command is not set in my main.cf.  i know that postfix is using the local transport to deliver mail to my dovecot Maildirs.  that is not currently in question.  thanks.
[15:29:40] <sahil> rob0: ah, ok.  so i'll just have to specify in there delivery to the spam Maildir within each user's mailbox.  the context is i'm trying to create a few files in skel so each new user will already have the Maildir infrastructure and delivery to a spam sub-folder setup whenever amavisd tags spam and delivers to the user+spam address.  thanks for your help.
[15:30:19] <adaptr> sahil: I made the same typo you made, and you complain ? go fsck your disks pal
[15:30:27] <rob0> yeah, you'll want the .forward+spam in skel too.
[15:31:00] <sahil> rob0: yep it's already there; i just need to populate the file with location of "spam" folder.  i was mistaken to think simply the presence of the .forward+spam file would be sufficient.
[15:31:17] <sahil> adaptr: ok cool guy, marvelous use of 'fsck'.
[15:31:40] <adaptr> very appropriate, I thought
[15:32:08] <sahil> yes, you're clearly a thinker!  enjoy your sunday folks.  thanks for the help rob0.
[15:32:12] <rob0> fsck is done to a filesystem, not a disk.
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[15:32:38] <rob0> Maybe adaptr wants badblocks :)
[15:33:40] <jduggan> questiona bout using .forward (since i've never used it).. if you forward using .forward does the final destination see the sender address as the original sender, or does it get re-written to the original recipients address?
[15:34:26] <rob0> unfortunately it would be the same envelope sender, which is why .forward outside your system is likely to break.
[15:34:59] <jduggan> ok thanks
[15:35:12] <sysmonk> 9/win 24
[15:35:15] * sysmonk fails
[15:35:46] <rob0> but one thing you can do: .forward to a pipe, and the pipe could be sendmail
[15:35:57] <rob0> or mail
[15:36:18] <jduggan> interesting thought, thanks
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[15:44:37] <bjoernb> hello
[15:45:15] <bjoernb> how do i turn off relaying, as i do not want to share my mail server as open relay for spammers?
[15:47:04] <jduggan> !basic
[15:47:04] <knoba> jduggan: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[15:47:13] <jduggan> see above
[15:48:50] <bjoernb> thanks
[15:50:32] <bjoernb> mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8 in /etc/postfix/main.cf should safe my server from being an open relay, if i understood right?
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[15:55:19] <bjoernb> ok found it. good documentation!
[15:55:25] <bjoernb> bye. have a nice weekend.
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[20:08:23] <indio> Hi. Newbie here. Which port does Postfix use when receiving mail?
[20:09:01] <mwalling> 25?
[20:09:07] <rob0> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMTP
[20:11:56] <indio> Why does my mail server receive mail from localhost but not from the internet. Could it be because port 25 is closed by my ISP?
[20:13:16] <rob0> Most ISPs do not block SMTP inbound. (Some do, but that's rare.) Perhaps you have a misconfigured router.
[20:14:22] <indio> I portscanned my host and port 25 says "stealth".
[20:15:11] <mwalling> portscanned from where?
[20:15:23] <indio> ShieldsUp.
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[20:16:46] <rob0> 82.194.193.25 ? Port 25 is closed.
[20:17:17] <indio> What's that IP?
[20:17:27] <rob0> 18:08 -!- tore [i=tore at 82 dot 194.193.25] has joined #postfix
[20:17:27] <mwalling> rob0: ... fail
[20:17:38] <mwalling> rob0: we're talking to indio
[20:17:43] <rob0> oh oops :)
[20:17:47] <rob0> nm
[20:17:48] <mwalling> whos hiding behind a freenodecloak
[20:18:07] <rob0> Get me more coffee.
[20:18:16] <mwalling> !coffee
[20:18:16] <knoba> mwalling: Error: "action" is not a valid command.
[20:18:48] <indio> My IP is 200.126.207.60
[20:19:13] <rob0> timing out
[20:19:17] <mwalling> ditto
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[20:22:25] <rob0> http://pastebin.com/d41f6c1df
[20:22:52] <bmunat> what command do i run to see what dictionary types my postfix understands?
[20:23:17] <bmunat> ah.... postconf?
[20:23:26] <indio> rob0: Thanks.
[20:24:05] <mwalling> !postconf
[20:24:06] <knoba> mwalling: "postconf" : the configuration management tool for postfix. See man postconf for more information.
[20:24:12] <bmunat> yeah... postconf -m.. sorry for the noise
[20:24:26] <indio> 25/tcp   filtered smtp  <--- This means I can't receive mail, right?
[20:25:13] <rob0> yup
[20:25:51] <indio> I did nothing to have that port filtered, so I guess it's my ISP, am I wrong?
[20:26:19] <rob0> um, of course you understand that we can't say for sure?
[20:26:31] <rob0> it could be the ISP, sure.
[20:26:49] <rob0> I'll scan for your net neighbors
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[20:37:03] <rob0> Filtered SMTP on .56 .58 .59 & .62, so looks likely, it is the ISP.
[20:37:17] <bmunat> does anyone know where I can find the latest simon j mudd patch stuff?
[20:37:24] <indio> Thanks rob0.
[20:37:28] <bmunat> i'm not having much luck finding his website
[20:37:32] <indio> Damn ISP.
[20:38:49] <rob0> http://postfix.wl0.org/ ?? A Google "I'm feeling lucky" should have found that.
[20:41:04] <bmunat> sorry... i guess i was looking for simon j mudd's website...
[20:42:21] <bmunat> yeah... i don't really understand what to do with this site :-(
[20:44:09] <rob0> I guess that depends, why are you looking for Simon?
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[20:44:22] <rob0> the multi-line banner patch?
[20:44:31] <bmunat> i installed postfix on fedora core 8 about six months ago and patched it to use postgresql.... now I've updated to fedora core 9 and postfix is fugged
[20:44:33] <rob0> Wietse links to that somewhere
[20:44:41] <bmunat> so i need to redo the patch
[20:45:00] <rob0> pgsql is natively supported, no patch
[20:45:17] <bmunat> and i barely remember how i did that the first time... plus i assume i need to find these files for 2.5.1
[20:45:18] <rob0> unless you mean Fedora's RPM doesn't have pgsql
[20:45:30] <bmunat> sorry, wrong word... enable not patch
[20:45:36] <bmunat> right
[20:45:54] <rob0> ok, get Simon's SRPM and edit the spec and rpmbuild(1) it.
[20:46:10] <bmunat> yeah... that's it...
[20:46:23] <bmunat> that's why i was 'looking for simon' :-)
[20:46:51] <bmunat> do you know where that would be on the site you mentioned above?
[20:46:52] <rob0> He does maintain an unsupported Postfix patch, too.
[20:49:58] <bmunat> i think i've got it: http://ftp.wl0.org/official/2.5/SRPMS/postfix-2.5.1-1.src.rpm
[20:50:16] <bmunat> though i don't understand how i get all the specfile stuff for that
[20:50:27] <rob0> I think he has 2.5.2
[20:50:40] <rob0> the spec file is in there
[20:50:48] <rob0> Simon has a howto
[20:51:12] <bmunat> ah... RPMs are a type of archive?
[20:51:13] <rob0> I only ever did it once, I don't usually work on RH and derivates
[20:51:25] <rob0> yes, cpio IIRC
[20:51:36] <bmunat> i would rather not work on RH, but.... :-)
[20:51:41] <bmunat> cool
[20:51:56] <bmunat> i'll figure out how to open that SRPM... thanks
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[21:18:31] <Verilium> Look into rpm2cpio.
[21:24:24] <bmunat> how do i check what version of postfix is installed?
[21:25:55] <bmunat> i made my specfile and did rpmbuild -bi with the specfile and it gave me a ton of output, but it's not clear whether it succeeded or failed
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