[00:01:58] <FuriousGeorge> i know what happened, postgrey's db got currupted
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[00:12:58] <FuriousGeorge> good thing this is a xen server, or it would have repaired the db by now, leaving me with nothing to do
[00:13:26] <FuriousGeorge> wondering if it would be enough to delete the .lock file
[00:13:52] <vice-versa> except for enjoying your vacation
[00:14:44] <FuriousGeorge> vice-versa: im writing a shell script to enjoy my vacation for me while i repair the db
[00:14:55] <FuriousGeorge> while (! fiesta); sleep;
[00:15:23] <FuriousGeorge> done;
[00:16:12] <vice-versa> c'mon, admit it, deep down you were hoping something like this would happen
[00:16:16] <FuriousGeorge> i heard that there are other options based on postgrey that handle power/disk failure better
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[00:16:34] <FuriousGeorge> vice-versa: really really really deep down
[00:16:39] <vice-versa> lol
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[00:19:37] <Jakobsen> Uh oh.. My postfix have a problem sending mail.. "status=deferred (delivery temporarily suspended: connect to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx: Connection timed out)
[00:19:53] <Jakobsen> It's only a few domains I can't send to, but there are 103 mails in the queue now
[00:20:06] <FuriousGeorge> i actually cant even blame xen...  its a 10meg db file, and im reading from the disk at about 1k...  i guess its just a slow process, even when utilizing 100% of a 2ghz xeon
[00:20:11] <sysmonk> so, maybe xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is down Jakobsen
[00:20:24] <FuriousGeorge> *1k/s
[00:20:27] <Jakobsen> sysmonk, it's just an example.. :)
[00:20:35] <sysmonk> Jakobsen: it's just an example, too
[00:20:38] <Jakobsen> sysmonk, and I can ping the mail servers out there
[00:20:46] <sysmonk> Jakobsen: pinging != connecting to it
[00:20:51] <sysmonk> try telnet'ing to it, port 25
[00:20:55] <Jakobsen> sysmonk, I can telnet - yes
[00:20:56] <vice-versa> it's Fr.i., all the porn sites are under heavy load
[00:21:03] <FuriousGeorge> lol
[00:21:22] <sysmonk> Jakobsen: really? pastebin the log and telnet to that server
[00:21:29] <sysmonk> without mungled ip
[00:21:40] <mwalling> FuriousGeorge: your partitions dont have a 1k block size do tyhay?
[00:22:33] <Jakobsen> sysmonk, my mistake.. actually I can't telnet to the two mailservers on port 25.. Sorry
[00:22:39] <FuriousGeorge> mwalling: i dont think so...  i just used the automated linode gentoo setup, i dont expect it to do anything too strange...  then again, how do i verify that?
[00:22:52] <sysmonk> Jakobsen: so, problem solved :)
[00:22:52] <mwalling> tune2fs
[00:23:00] <FuriousGeorge> i just pulled 1k/s out as a very rough estimation based on a krellm client
[00:23:06] <Jakobsen> sysmonk, yes. It appears that it's not really my problem :D
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[00:25:21] <FuriousGeorge> mwalling: well ill be a monkey's uncle
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[00:28:04] <FuriousGeorge> mwalling: but generally, when dealing with many small files, as is the case with email, dont i want small blocks?
[00:28:53] <mwalling> yes, but not when there is a bug in xen that noone can reproduce unless its on a production machine when you least expect it that causes the kernel to get upset and remount that partition read only
[00:29:26] <vice-versa> this is where the lost art of partition strategies comes into play
[00:29:26] <FuriousGeorge> mwalling: are you trying to ruin my vacation :)
[00:29:44] <mwalling> no :>
[00:29:49] <mwalling> FuriousGeorge: actually... keep it
[00:29:58] <mwalling> no one has lost any data, just annoyance
[00:30:26] <FuriousGeorge> this has been a very humbling day
[00:30:31] <mwalling> when it breaks, tell someone what happened and some of the spew from dmesg
[00:30:43] <vice-versa> mwalling: I know, that wasn't my point
[00:31:04] <mwalling> vice-versa: huh?
[00:31:14] <FuriousGeorge> almost humbling enough to stop me from continuing to drink the cheap and delicious spanish wine...  almost
[00:31:27] <mwalling> FuriousGeorge: keep drinking:)
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[00:31:43] <mwalling> oh,, and if it goes read only, dont fsck it
[00:31:45] <vice-versa> nm, thought you were commenting on my partition strategies statement
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[00:32:01] <mwalling> for the love of debugging information dont
[00:32:58] <mwalling> http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3330
[00:33:07] <FuriousGeorge> seriously though, way more impressive than how much i know, is how much i dont know.  im quite impressed right now :)  if it wasnt for google, i would never have solved this....  assuming the corrupted db is the problem
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[00:36:04] <FuriousGeorge> mwalling: thanks for the heads-up on the blocksize bug
[00:36:10] <FuriousGeorge> mwalling ++;
[00:36:12] <mwalling> let it break!
[00:36:13] <mwalling> let it break!
[00:36:17] <FuriousGeorge> i will
[00:36:29] <FuriousGeorge> on a different server
[00:36:30] <mwalling> caker will give you space to copy your data, but let it break!
[00:36:34] <mwalling> nononononono
[00:37:03] <FuriousGeorge> if i cant create new files that means my clients wont get email
[00:37:09] <FuriousGeorge> like now :)
[00:37:28] <mwalling> i've got a couple test linodes all pounding on this, and cant reporoduce
[00:37:55] <vice-versa> O.0
[00:38:03] <FuriousGeorge> i have another linode which i use for my mail, which i will leave, since i'd figure it out right away if that stops working
[00:40:45] <mwalling> vice-versa: and lkml isnt much help
[00:42:39] <FuriousGeorge> i cant decide if mailhosting is something i want to spend a lot of time doing or not...  ive rolled my own mailfiltering server thing with gentoo, clamAV, et al., i just dont know if there will be a market for it with google doing it's thing basically for free
[00:43:02] <FuriousGeorge> then i have kolab, which offer exchange-like functionality...
[00:43:40] <FuriousGeorge> across more clients, obviously...  im running that on another linode with postfix at the center, of course, but i cant decide if i want to commit to that project
[00:43:54] <FuriousGeorge> and all the other exhange-like solutions are not really open source
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[00:54:08] <FuriousGeorge> anyone feel like arguing that point with me?
[00:54:13] <FuriousGeorge> or any point?
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[01:09:42] <pr0t> If I want to forward all email for one user only to another mail server how can I do that?
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[01:12:13] <pr0t> user@domain smtp:[127.0.0.1]
[01:12:16] <pr0t> would something like that work?
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[01:34:36] <Tehlak> hi
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[03:32:06] <bjoernb> hi
[03:32:58] <bjoernb> i installed postfix and dovecot on debian. i used the configuration dialog for postfix. i can reach postfix with telnet localhost 25.
[03:33:37] <bjoernb> i configured postfix with configuration Internet Site from the menu
[03:33:56] <bjoernb> but i do not get mails when i send them.
[03:34:03] <bjoernb> any help in debugging?
[03:35:22] <xpoint> sendmail -bv root
[03:35:27] <xpoint> see logs
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[03:36:25] <bjoernb> xpoint: /var/log/???
[03:36:40] * xpoint is gentoo user :)
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[03:37:18] <xpoint> depends on distro, but mostly all logs are there yes
[03:39:08] <bjoernb> bjoern:/home/bjoern/Maildir# sendmail -bv root
[03:39:09] <bjoernb> Mail Delivery Status Report will be mailed to <root>.
[03:39:20] <xpoint> that should work
[03:39:35] <bjoernb> hm. how to read the mails from root?
[03:39:36] <xpoint> but root newer reads mail
[03:39:53] <xpoint> setup to forward to a real mailbox
[03:40:02] <bjoernb> xpoint: i use maildir format
[03:40:11] <xpoint> in the alias file
[03:40:18] <bjoernb> /etc/aliases?
[03:40:36] <xpoint> postconf -n | grep alias_maps
[03:40:39] <xpoint> this one
[03:40:58] <bjoernb> alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases
[03:41:06] <xpoint> if not there you started with a empty main.cf ?
[03:41:30] <bjoernb> no the /etc/postfix/main.cf is not empty
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[03:41:45] <xpoint> most troubles comes from bad default installed main.cf that is brokken to what postconf -d gives
[03:41:45] <bjoernb> /etc/aliases has an entry root:bjoern
[03:42:11] <xpoint> with space after :
[03:42:14] <xpoint> ok
[03:42:27] <bjoernb> yes
[03:42:54] <xpoint> see the bjoern mailbox then what results it have
[03:43:43] <bjoernb> ~/Maildir/* are empty
[03:44:15] <bjoernb> i mean ~/Maildir/cur and +/Maildir/new
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[03:50:27] <bjoernb> ah it goes to /var/mail
[03:50:40] <bjoernb> there is a mail with subject probe.
[03:50:48] <bjoernb> is this what you meant xpoint?
[03:51:27] <xpoint> yes
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[03:52:26] <xpoint> you can make root redirect or more like forward to you domain mailbox so you always can read this mails from dovecot
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[03:55:04] <bjoernb> how do i tell postfix to deliver mails in ~/Maildir and not in /var/mail/$user?
[03:55:13] <rob0> And you've been here 20 minutes, you received the recommendation to read your logs (which was new to you because you didn't know where the logs were.) Did you do that yet?
[03:55:26] <xpoint> root: bjoern at domain dot tld
[03:56:02] <xpoint> rob0, shurt up
[03:56:05] <rob0> another good recommendation would be to check your distribution's package documentation for Postfix. If they have none, complain.
[03:57:04] <xpoint> rob0, yes heaven forbids not using the sources
[03:57:14] <rob0> They should fully describe and provide reasoning for every non-default setting they use.
[03:58:14] <xpoint> rob0, olso most debian installs i have seen is with clueless main.cf, this file should be empty from the start
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[03:59:11] <bjoernb> xpoint: the mail gets still delivered to /var/mail/bjoern
[03:59:27] <xpoint> bjoernb, change it in aliases
[03:59:33] <bjoernb> i changed the line in /etc/aliases and did postalias /etc/aliases
[03:59:46] <xpoint> newaliases
[03:59:50] <xpoint> postfix reload
[04:00:22] <bjoernb> still
[04:01:08] <xpoint> then its a error in virtual domain setup maybe ?, post logs snipts to pastebin, and post olso postconf -n
[04:01:12] <bjoernb> root: foo at bar dot baz.org is the entry
[04:01:50] <xpoint> is bar.baz.org virtual or mydestination ?
[04:02:56] <bjoernb> http://dpaste.com/59607/
[04:03:39] <xpoint> line 4
[04:03:45] <xpoint> remove the line
[04:04:25] <bjoernb> ok
[04:05:23] <bjoernb> still in /var/mail/bjoern
[04:05:25] <xpoint> line 15 missing wan ip
[04:05:40] <xpoint> and you have ipv6 wan ip ?
[04:05:56] <bjoernb> xpoint: i have ipv4
[04:06:13] <bjoernb> and i have a dynamic ip adress
[04:06:14] <xpoint> remove line 15 then
[04:06:33] <xpoint> dynamic :////
[04:07:25] <bjoernb> hm?
[04:07:38] <xpoint> you should really using gentoo
[04:07:42] <bjoernb> i am using dyndns to get an ip.
[04:08:07] <xpoint> do not add mynetworks in main.cf then
[04:08:25] <bjoernb> i already removed mynetworks
[04:08:25] <rob0> And you've been here 30 minutes, did you read logs yet?
[04:08:50] <bjoernb> rob0: /var/log/mail.log is there and /var/log/mail.err
[04:09:44] <rob0> I don't mean use ls to see that they're there. I mean to LOOK INSIDE.
[04:10:03] <bjoernb> http://dpaste.com/59609/
[04:11:02] <rob0> (delivers to command: procmail -a "$USER")
[04:11:10] <xpoint> no errors in last url
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[04:11:58] <rob0> See, what you have is a distro bug. They set you up to use procmail, apparently without documenting that fact.
[04:11:59] <bjoernb> rob0: i found this here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/postfix-dovecot-maildir-383273/?s=951bbe40201159c95e8e1afc1f7b96a5
[04:12:20] <xpoint> is dovecot using pam auth ? :-)
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[04:12:55] <bjoernb> xpoint: no.
[04:13:21] <xpoint> and is master.cf added with dovecot lda ?
[04:13:24] <rob0> None of this has anything to do with procmail.
[04:13:59] <xpoint> rob0, bjoernb wants dovecot not procmail
[04:14:11] <rob0> The culprit is mailbox_command, as "postconf | grep procmail" would show.
[04:14:58] <xpoint> yes procmail should be changed to delivery in dovecot
[04:15:30] <bjoernb> mailbox_command = procmail -a "$USER"
[04:16:07] <rob0> Congratualtions, you're the latest Debian Postfix victim.
[04:16:20] <bjoernb> rob0: thanks.
[04:16:39] <bjoernb> so what to do about it?
[04:17:00] <rob0> DO consider complaining. They should document the things they change, so you know what to do about it.
[04:17:13] <bjoernb> change the mailbox_command = dovecot?
[04:17:25] <rob0> What to do? REMOVE that line.
[04:17:49] <rob0> you don't need to use dovecot's LDA.
[04:18:11] <xpoint> http://wiki.dovecot.org/SystemUsers
[04:18:32] <xpoint> rob0, ddie
[04:18:56] <xpoint> smarter people needs dovecot lda
[04:19:33] <bjoernb> thanks now it is in ~/Maildir
[04:20:12] <rob0> it will make about 0.0001% improvement in IMAP performance, offset by about 10x that much in Postfix having to invoke a new process for every delivery.
[04:20:14] <xpoint> bjoernb, do as rob0 says remove that line, but add dovecot in master.cf and use transport to dovecot for all mail
[04:20:40] <bjoernb> i removed that line.
[04:20:45] <rob0> "dovecot" transport in master.cf is entirely useless for local(8) delivery.
[04:21:14] <xpoint> rob0, solution is ?
[04:21:18] <rob0> you'd simply set it as mailbox_command, or invoke it from .forward
[04:21:26] <rob0> solution was given already :)
[04:21:54] <xpoint> faster then using it in master.cf ?
[04:23:09] <bjoernb> xpoint: how to set dovecot transport in master.cf?
[04:23:11] <xpoint> bjoernb, is your goal to just have unix mailboxes or run virtual domains aswell ?
[04:23:49] <xpoint> read dovecot wiki more
[04:23:51] <rob0> 02:20 < rob0> "dovecot" transport in master.cf is entirely useless for local(8) delivery.
[04:24:08] <rob0> it's only needed if you use it for virtual(8)
[04:24:42] <xpoint> thats why i ask bjoernb the last 2 lines :-)
[04:24:54] <bjoernb> xpoint: i do not know what virtual domains are. my goal is to receive emails from $world and deliver them to ~/Maildir so that i can look at them via dovecot
[04:25:18] <rob0> Don't bother with virtual domains at this point.
[04:25:20] <bjoernb> rob0: thanks
[04:25:27] <xpoint> bjoernb, then you want to use pam auth
[04:25:34] <xpoint> in dovecot
[04:25:48] <bjoernb> i heard pam auth is insecure.
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[04:26:11] <xpoint> life is insecure die today :-)
[04:26:25] <bjoernb> i use the ssl certificates
[04:26:42] <xpoint> ssl is insecure
[04:26:58] <xpoint> on debian, but might already being fixed
[04:27:48] <xpoint> google debian and openssl bugs and reakt on bad ssl keys
[04:28:10] <rob0> Oh sure, *they* fixed it right away, but did all of their users install the patch? Of course not.
[04:28:39] <xpoint> rob0, ssl keys need redo
[04:28:44] <rob0> Debian's random number generator: "4  4  4  4  4  4" :)
[04:28:58] <xpoint> he
[04:29:13] <xpoint> 4 is my locky number 2 :-)
[04:29:22] <bjoernb> http://dpaste.com/59611/
[04:30:35] <bjoernb> rob0: http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/2996/pmeo9hcjp7aw9.jpg ?
[04:31:00] <rob0> oh right ... 9! :)
[04:31:27] <bjoernb> http://xkcd.com/424/
[04:32:20] <bjoernb> xpoint: i pasted the interesting lines of my /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf at http://dpaste.com/59611/ may you take a look, please?
[04:32:52] <xpoint> bjoernb, but more intresting is dovecot -n
[04:32:55] <xpoint> :)
[04:33:19] <rob0> I think on Debian you should use pam rather than shadow / passwd, but I think that will work as is.
[04:33:38] <rob0> maybe it's just pam as passdb
[04:33:51] <rob0> passwd as userdb
[04:34:53] <bjoernb> http://dpaste.com/59612/
[04:35:06] <rob0> oh I see a problem: the socket won't work with shadow unless user = root
[04:35:17] <xpoint> http://wiki.dovecot.org/PasswordDatabase/PAM
[04:37:06] <bjoernb> reading
[04:37:40] <xpoint> good
[04:38:24] <xpoint> rob0, what is the mail_command for dovecot ?
[04:39:40] <bjoernb> so i have to create a file /etc/pam.d/dovecot with the contents auth    required        pam_unix.so nullok
[04:39:43] <bjoernb> account required        pam_unix.so
[04:40:22] <bjoernb> and then edit the /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf with passdb pam { args = blocking=yes
[04:44:29] <bjoernb> xpoint: i edited the  /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf
[04:45:03] <bjoernb> still nothing in maildir
[04:45:33] <bjoernb> i do not receive mail from $outside.
[04:45:58] <bjoernb> i only get e-mails from $local
[04:46:31] <bjoernb> how can i test the server?
[04:46:57] <xpoint> yes to follow the wiki strict yes, but see if dovecot have not installed imap pop3 first in pam.d
[04:47:48] <xpoint> you need pam auth to work first to get email from outside working
[04:48:16] <bjoernb> #%PAM-1.0
[04:48:17] <bjoernb> @include common-auth
[04:48:27] <bjoernb> @include common-account
[04:48:28] <bjoernb> @include common-session
[04:48:34] <xpoint> and you have to see that probe email to know it works
[04:48:45] <bjoernb> is the content of /etc/pam.d/dovecot
[04:48:59] <xpoint> so dont make dovecot in pam.d
[04:49:24] <xpoint> okay debian using same wiki :-)
[04:49:50] <bjoernb> xpoint: i can access the imap server from thunderbird@$outside and could read the probe mails.
[04:50:12] <xpoint> super is this logged as succes ?
[04:50:19] <bjoernb> but i cannot send emails to postfix which uses dovecot to put them in ~/Maildir
[04:50:50] <xpoint> ask rob0 about mail_command = settings, hehe
[04:51:00] <bjoernb> xpoint: reading ~/Maildir is a success, yes.
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[04:51:38] <bjoernb> i am confused. what about the pam thingie?
[04:51:40] <xpoint> super duper on that part, next is just to get deelivery in dovecot to work from mail_command
[04:51:47] <bjoernb> and what about the mail_command thingie?
[04:52:06] <xpoint> you had procmail there right ?
[04:52:21] <bjoernb> yes there was an entry for procmail
[04:52:21] <xpoint> now we need dovecot
[04:54:43] <xpoint> search for dovecot/deliver
[04:55:15] <xpoint> that elf need to be where procmail was
[04:55:41] <bjoernb> mailbox_command - this parameter defines the external command to use instead of local mailbox delivery. It is a completely optional parameter. If you're interested in having procmail to do your mail, this is where you set it.
[04:56:42] * xpoint running sieve so no need for procmail here, but rob0 have not used procmail or sieve hehe :)
[04:57:55] <xpoint> bjoernb, i dont know exact path for deliver on debian, but its in a subdir of dovecot
[04:57:58] <bjoernb> dovecot unix - n n - - pipe flags=DRhu user=
[04:58:02] <bjoernb> ??
[04:58:30] <xpoint> no not add to master as rob0 say
[04:58:39] <bjoernb> ok
[04:58:56] <xpoint> but save it for when you want virtual
[05:00:28] <bjoernb> i did not find anything helpful to dovecot/deliver
[05:00:54] <xpoint> search for deliver then
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[05:01:50] <bjoernb> System users
[05:01:51] <bjoernb> You can use deliver with a few selected system users (ie. user is found from /etc/passwd / NSS) by calling deliver in the user's ~/.forward file:
[05:01:54] <bjoernb> | "/usr/local/libexec/dovecot/deliver"
[05:02:01] <bjoernb> but this is with .forward file
[05:02:21] <xpoint> on gentoo i have it in /usr/libexec/dovevot/deliver
[05:02:38] <bjoernb> ah i searched the web not the file system
[05:03:13] <xpoint> add this instaed of procmail :)
[05:03:41] <xpoint> do not use the forwar file
[05:04:01] <xpoint> then, we save that to other smart thingies
[05:04:19] <bjoernb> /usr/lib/dovecot/deliver
[05:04:47] <xpoint> postconf -e 'mail_command=/usr/lib/dovecot/deliver'
[05:04:53] <bjoernb> mailbox_command = /usr/lib/dovecot/deliver
[05:05:22] <xpoint> should work now, i hope atleast
[05:05:47] <bjoernb> done
[05:06:03] <xpoint> restart postfix
[05:06:19] <xpoint> sendmail -bv root
[05:06:28] <xpoint> check logs, check mail
[05:07:04] <bjoernb> yeah i got mail via thunderbird. delivery status.
[05:07:18] <xpoint> super, now it works
[05:07:21] <bjoernb> but still i cannot get emails i send to bjoern at bjoern dot homelinux.org
[05:07:34] <bjoernb> that is the mayor problem.
[05:07:49] <bjoernb> major
[05:08:02] <xpoint> postconf -n then
[05:08:20] <xpoint> postfix then know unix users
[05:08:28] <xpoint> dont know even
[05:08:47] <xpoint> or what error do you get in logs ? :)))
[05:08:55] <bjoernb> http://dpaste.com/59614/
[05:09:34] <bjoernb> i do not even hear the machine working when sending an email.
[05:10:06] <bjoernb> but when sending with sendmail -bv root i hear it working.
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[05:10:50] <xpoint> remove line 6 10 16 17
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[05:13:36] <bbb> re
[05:13:50] <bbb> i got disconnected
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[05:15:39] <xpoint> bjoernb, if you got mail reply :)
[05:16:26] <xpoint> did you remove line 6 10 16 17 ?
[05:16:41] <bjoernb_> hi
[05:16:45] <bjoernb_> it works now
[05:16:56] <xpoint> did you remove line 6 10 16 17 ?
[05:17:29] <bjoernb_> i forgot to forward port 25. i only forwarded 993 for dovecot but not port 25 for postfix. sorry for the inconvenience!
[05:17:52] <xpoint> thats a faq :)
[05:17:59] <xpoint> we have all being there
[05:18:16] <xpoint> but i like to know
[05:18:18] <xpoint> did you remove line 6 10 16 17 ?
[05:18:19] <bjoernb_> xpoint: did you sent me mail?
[05:18:26] <bjoernb_> no i did not remove the lines.
[05:18:55] <xpoint> please do, thay are bogus debian configs
[05:19:07] <bjoernb_> ok
[05:19:25] <xpoint> and when you have done so reply to you mail
[05:22:30] <bjoernb_> the reply thing worked well!
[05:22:42] <xpoint> succes in logs ?
[05:22:45] <xpoint> super
[05:22:52] <bjoernb_> thanks so much xpoint and rob0
[05:23:16] <bjoernb_> did not look in the logs. i saw the result in the mailclient@$outside.
[05:23:39] <bjoernb_> i removed the lines you told which where bogus debian configs.
[05:24:59] <xpoint> bogus as you dont need to change them
[05:25:44] <xpoint> i sent you a mail with subject 	postfix irc did you get it ?
[05:25:54] <bjoernb_> yes!
[05:25:55] <bjoernb_> thanks
[05:26:07] <bjoernb_> that is why i was asking if you sent me a mail
[05:26:11] <xpoint> super duper now read more about sieve :-)))
[05:26:48] <bjoernb_> i will this weekend. but now it is 05:21 a.m. here and i am tired tired tired.
[05:27:24] <xpoint> hehe such is admin lifes, see rob0 already sleep :-)
[05:27:50] <bjoernb_> thanks for teaching me this night.
[05:28:03] <xpoint> well i am here if you need me later
[05:28:17] <bjoernb_> i'll see.
[05:28:22] <bjoernb_> thanks for your help.
[05:28:31] <xpoint> no problem
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[10:54:49] <sysmonk> hmmm
[10:54:51] <sysmonk> Received: from edmundas by mail.etalink.lt (Etalink pasto serveris) with ASMTP (SSL) id YSQ02987 for <test at ma-law dot lt>; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:57:09 +0300
[10:55:02] <sysmonk> does anyone recognize what software is this smtp runing?
[10:55:25] <sysmonk> not ma-law.lt, but mail.etalink.lt
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[13:06:48] <bjoernb> hi
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[13:54:50] <ullio> hi. i have some problems with the postfix header_checks. i would like to apply these checks only on mails delivered via the wan smtp interface. trusted hosts should be spared from this as there are some draconic filters involved
[13:55:15] <ullio> the manual states the header_checs are invoked by the cleanup transport
[13:56:13] <ullio> is there a way to get different handling for different transports?
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[14:00:04] <ullio> trusted hosts use special ip range to deliver there stuff. but the "-o header_checks=" (empty) does not help. i dunno why i put it there since its a cleanup only option - or?
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[14:01:55] <rob0> !receive_override_options
[14:01:56] <knoba> rob0: "receive_override_options" : (default: empty) - Enable or disable recipient validation, built-in content filtering, or address mapping. Typically, these are specified in master.cf as arguments for the smtpd(8), qmqpd(8) or pickup(8) daemons. See: http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#receive_override_options
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[14:05:02] <ullio> aargh. yes. it was there inmy example. im so blind. thanks for the quick reply!
[14:07:14] <JoaoCarneiro> rob0, you're allway's on top of any kind of issues! you're a developer or a knowledgeable sysadmin?
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[14:20:20] <rob0> No, I'm just a prime example of someone who spends too much time on IRC. An example of what NOT to do with your sysadmin+Postfix expertise. :)
[14:21:38] <sysmonk> heh, yup
[14:21:39] <sysmonk> ;)
[14:21:49] <JoaoCarneiro> lol
[14:23:40] <sysmonk> don't try to do it at home
[14:29:30] * hparker gets in trouble if he does it anywhere but at home
[14:32:49] <dragonheart> lol
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[15:12:27] <generic> hi guys
[15:12:36] <tuxick> lo, how to whitelist hosts for anvil? don't see that in docs
[15:13:08] <generic> i have configured my postfix with tls so far so good but i am trying to send with smtp auth it gives error
[15:13:18] <generic>  postfix/smtpd[8697]: warning: linux[10.1.1.144]: SASL LOGIN authentication failed: generic failure
[15:13:21] <generic> any idea?
[15:15:29] * tuxick loves generic failures
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[15:18:52] <tuxick> *can* anvil configured for this at all?
[15:19:06] <tuxick> or am i supposed to do this in a totally different way?
[15:19:12] <tuxick> that's explain why i can't find clue
[15:20:15] <generic> hey come one plz tel me wait ill show u my main.cf
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[15:24:45] <generic> here http://pastebin.com/m4b61de1e
[15:24:49] <generic> tuxick
[15:24:51] <generic> u there
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[15:30:00] <rob0> And no, I don't think there is any such option for anvil, did you RTFM?
[15:30:31] <rob0> grep your postconf for such terms as "client" and "limit"
[15:30:37] <rob0> then look those up
[15:31:23] <rob0> The SASL LOGIN generic failure is in the SASL backend, not in Postfix.
[15:31:42] <generic> so what i do now?
[15:31:45] <tuxick> rob0: i'd gladly read manual, if i knew where
[15:31:49] <tuxick> man anvil doesn't mention
[15:32:00] <sysmonk> tuxick: there is
[15:32:09] <tuxick> where?
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[15:32:25] <tuxick> limit_exceptions?
[15:32:27] <generic> robo what i do then to correct it
[15:32:45] <sysmonk> tuxick: yup
[15:35:04] <rob0> tuxick, reread: "no, I don't think there is any such option for anvil ..."
[15:35:24] <generic>  warning: SASL authentication failure: cannot connect to saslauthd server: No such file or directory
[15:35:32] <generic> robo?
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[15:36:56] <sysmonk> robo
[15:36:57] <sysmonk> :)))
[15:37:09] <sysmonk> rob0: hey there rob-0-cop
[15:37:35] <rob0> !sasl
[15:37:36] <knoba> rob0: "sasl" : SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.
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[15:43:24] <tuxick> rob0: in 14 years of using OSS i learned not to assume documentation is complete
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[15:43:40] <tuxick> or even correct
[15:43:55] <generic> guys i know its simple but am stuck plz help
[15:44:13] <rob0> In ~8-9 years of Postfix, I learned to trust the documentation.
[15:44:22] <tuxick> heh ok :)
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[15:44:58] <tuxick> well it'd be nice if man anvil mentions how to make if behave differently for specific hosts
[15:45:13] <tuxick> but if it's a generic postconf/smtdp thing...
[15:45:23] <tuxick> smtpd even
[15:45:43] <generic> so whats the cure
[15:45:46] <generic> plz tel
[15:46:14] <tuxick> generic: did you follow all of http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html ?
[15:46:18] <rob0> If it doesn't mention such an option, it's not available.
[15:46:18] * tuxick prefers to avoid sasl
[15:46:20] <generic> yes
[15:46:22] <generic> i did
[15:46:32] <generic> am ready all thins can u read my conf files
[15:46:42] <generic> here http://pastebin.com/m4b61de1e
[15:46:55] <rob0> gen, what OS is this?
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[15:51:47] <tuxick> i agree "generic error" is a slap in the face
[15:52:19] <generic> what to do
[15:52:36] <rob0> Ignore any and all questions you are asked.
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[15:56:06] <generic> ubuntu
[15:56:09] <generic> 8.04
[15:56:11] <generic> plz help
[15:56:38] <rob0> Ubuntu has a wiki which probably tells you exactly what to do and when to do it.
[15:57:21] <rob0> I don't use Cyrus SASL, nor do I use Ubuntu/Debian, so I can't help.
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[16:01:31] <tuxick> is this sasl really such a pain? i see people having trouble with it all the time
[16:01:47] <tuxick> or is it just a matter of following the right docs?
[16:02:44] <mwalling> !sasl_readme
[16:02:45] <knoba> mwalling: "sasl_readme" : www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html
[16:02:57] <tuxick> he read that!
[16:04:20] <mwalling> !pebcak
[16:04:21] <knoba> mwalling: Error: "pebcak" is not a valid command.
[16:04:27] <mwalling> knoba: it should be
[16:04:52] <adaptr> generic: switch to dovecot, it will make your life simpler
[16:05:20] <adaptr> *much* simpler
[16:06:19] <tuxick> hear hear
[16:06:59] <tuxick> so far i solved the smtp auth stuff by not supporting it
[16:07:12] <tuxick> "use relay of your provider or webmail"
[16:07:46] <tuxick> but i can imagine that's rather confusing for laptop 'road warriors'
[16:07:58] <tuxick> who just get openvpn ;p
[16:10:20] <adaptr> dovecot SASL with TLS works fine
[16:10:22] <generic> relay means am useing horde as my webmail
[16:10:31] <generic> see thats why requirement
[16:10:41] <adaptr> no, we don't see
[16:10:50] <adaptr> if you use webmail then you don't need SASL *at all*
[16:14:20] <rob0> If the httpd is on the same host as the mail host, it can use sendmail(1) (and probably does, by default)
[16:14:39] <rob0> If the httpd is on a different host, put it in mynetworks
[16:14:53] <adaptr> doesn't matter, since SMTP from localhost is always permitted as well
[16:15:12] <adaptr> (I like SMTP, for purity's sake)
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[16:59:26] <generic> adapter
[16:59:37] <generic> i cant plz help in this regard
[16:59:45] <generic> u mean to say my sasl is currupt
[16:59:55] <adaptr> no did not say anything
[16:59:58] <adaptr> *I*
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[17:04:40] <rob0> You still haven't explained why SASL is necessary in your situation, after we both told you it is not.
[17:05:27] <sysmonk> rob0: he wants sasl, that's all
[17:05:58] * rob0 would recommend salsa instead
[17:06:05] <rob0> dyslexic and yummy
[17:06:10] <sysmonk> lol
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[17:11:21] <rob0> I had trouble getting my SASL to work with ALSA. Ended up with salsa.
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[17:28:51] <Texec> hey folks, I have a very simple question, how do I bind pop3 and smtp services to a subdomain?
[17:29:51] <lunaphyte> wha?
[17:30:09] <adaptr> Texec: the question, simple as you think it is, makes no sense
[17:30:18] <lunaphyte> try asking your question in less technical terms.
[17:30:19] <mwalling> not a postfix question. goodbye
[17:30:21] <adaptr> you don't "bind" a service to a domain
[17:30:29] <adaptr> mwalling: smtp is...
[17:30:34] <mwalling> i didnt read it
[17:30:37] <adaptr> hah!
[17:30:40] <mwalling> i stopped at pop3
[17:30:50] <adaptr> yes, you're forgiven
[17:30:55] <adaptr> I did too
[17:31:07] <adaptr> I only read it when you said it's not a postfix question :P
[17:32:34] <rob0> The Postfix answer begins here:
[17:32:36] <rob0> !basic
[17:32:36] <knoba> rob0: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[17:32:38] <Texec> adaptr: The services answer on a domain and a port  - I want to set domains like pop3.example.org and smtp.example.org
[17:32:53] <lunaphyte> so add a records to your zone.
[17:33:20] <mwalling> Texec: no, they dont. they answer on an IP and a port
[17:33:30] <lunaphyte> stop being so pedantic.
[17:33:49] <adaptr> Texec: services don't know anything about domains
[17:34:05] <Texec> But why big email providers have such domains for the users?
[17:34:13] <rob0> I think this was good advice: 15:30 < lunaphyte> try asking your question in less technical terms.
[17:34:14] <adaptr> !basic
[17:34:15] <knoba> adaptr: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[17:34:53] <rob0> Your questions are too smart for me. Try bringing them down to my level.
[17:34:59] <lunaphyte> ha
[17:35:20] <lunaphyte> i made my postfix server out of play-doh.
[17:35:43] <rob0> Mr. Bill was made of the same stuff, and look what it got him!
[17:35:57] <rob0> oh NOOOOOOOOOO
[17:37:08] <lunaphyte> i think mr. hand was an oppressive tyrant.
[17:38:02] <mwalling> lunaphyte: he wanted to bind to a domain. i was answering his question. there is always /ignore if you dont like what i am saying.
[17:38:37] <rob0> Does "/ignore *" work?
[17:38:48] <lunaphyte> i'm not a big fan of ignore, really.
[17:38:52] <Texec> On googlemail.com for example the pop3 server only answers on pop.googlemail.com:995 not on googlemail.com:995
[17:38:56] <adaptr> of course - it's called "/disco"
[17:39:03] <Texec> who can i set this for my local server?
[17:39:14] <adaptr> Texec: and this is related to postfix - how ?
[17:39:15] <rob0> Are those the same IP addresses?
[17:39:37] <rob0> pop.googlemail.com.     600     IN      CNAME   googlemail-pop.l.google.com.
[17:39:45] <lunaphyte> that would be interesting.
[17:39:51] <adaptr> but not likely
[17:40:00] <lunaphyte> doesn't look like it, yeah.
[17:40:07] <adaptr> they'd have to amend the RFCs with vhost functionality
[17:40:08] <rob0> no, they are not.
[17:40:17] <mwalling> Texec: because google has lotsa money and can buy ip addresses
[17:40:24] <mwalling> once again, you bind to ips, not domains.
[17:40:43] <lunaphyte> Texec: that's a dns thing.  i'd encourage you to do some reading on ho dns works - i bet that would answer your question.
[17:40:57] <lunaphyte> err, *how dns works, even.
[17:40:59] <Texec> mwalling: know this allready, only can't image how this works, thanks for the tip
[17:41:03] <rob0> I would suggest http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_Name_System
[17:41:10] <rob0> :)
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[17:41:29] <mwalling> *HEADDESK*
[17:41:39] <adaptr> *FACEFIST*
[17:41:51] <mwalling> adaptr: dont hurt yourself
[17:41:54] <sysmonk> doh, don't be so user friendly
[17:41:58] * rob0 made that suggestion with full awareness of the hostmask
[17:42:00] <sysmonk> you should have suggested rfc 1035
[17:42:22] <adaptr> heh, din't even notice that
[17:42:32] <adaptr> how can I ever trust wikipedia again ?!?
[17:42:39] <adaptr> (yes, that was a double thrust)
[17:42:57] <lunaphyte> i fully expect him to next join #dns or #bind and start asking about cnames.
[17:43:01] <rob0> Well, they use mysql for a postgresql job ...
[17:43:05] <mwalling> he doesnt have a page on en.wp
[17:43:52] <sysmonk> mwalling: ah, so he's not even a real person? :)
[17:44:14] <mwalling> its freenode, they give out cloaks for smelling like a human
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[17:45:48] <adaptr> kcobain@smelly/dead has left the building
[17:46:01] <adaptr> oooh I want that hostmask
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[17:48:20] <rob0> shhh cpm_ is here
[17:49:13] <adaptr> oooh he forget his password again ?
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[17:59:31] <sysmonk> adaptr: no, he's so drunk that he even doesn't know his route
[18:02:56] <cpm_> anyyoun screen mry root?
[18:03:53] <adaptr> damn you're drunk - there's blood in your alcohol
[18:04:11] <Fallenou> lol
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[18:11:23] <cpm_> izzz ahocohal asbuse!
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[18:53:20] <cgibin> morning,
[18:53:32] <cgibin> having issues, can someone please look at this pastebin,... http://pastebin.com/m64a3e8f7
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[19:00:02] <rob0> which one of those was line 108, line 10 or line 11 of the paste?
[19:00:17] <cgibin> line 108 is empty
[19:02:26] <cgibin> fatal: /usr/local/etc/postfix/master.cf: line 105: missing "transport type" field
[19:02:35] <cgibin> nice i hit back it went 105
[19:02:59] <cgibin> line 105 #  ${nexthop} ${user}
[19:03:41] <cgibin> line 105/110
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[19:05:20] <cgibin> what else can i show you?
[19:09:05] <devdas> Is "vacation" the first word on the line?
[19:09:22] <cgibin> in where? main.cf?
[19:09:26] <devdas> master.cf
[19:09:36] <cgibin> oh no sir its on the botton of the script
[19:09:47] <devdas> Can you paste your entire master.cf?
[19:09:51] <devdas> s/sir//
[19:10:05] <devdas> Is is the first _word_ on the _line_
[19:10:07] <cgibin> sure
[19:10:09] <devdas> Isit*
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[19:10:15] <cgibin> let me paste the master.cf
[19:11:57] <cgibin> http://pastebin.com/m2b86ca96
[19:12:38] <cgibin> going to paste the new line on maillog
[19:14:11] <devdas> See line 80 of your paste
[19:14:20] <cgibin> http://pastebin.com/mb949753
[19:14:26] 
[19:14:35] <devdas> ugh
[19:14:41] <devdas> there's a missing #
[19:15:04] <cgibin> you right
[19:15:07] <devdas> before ${user}
[19:15:08] <cgibin> let me restart agin
[19:15:15] <devdas> comment it out
[19:17:03] <cgibin> was testing the other day, when i did put comment out on user didnt notice the other line went down
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[19:36:06] <fireglow> Hi, uhm, could anyone please explain me the difference between a filter and a milter? Is a milter pre-queue? (for incomming mail)
[19:37:51] <cgibin> devdas, thank you
[19:39:27] <rob0> perhaps the [FM]ILTER_README documents could help
[19:43:18] <cgibin> what comes to authmysqlrc fild MYSQL_PASSWORD          postfix do i put postfix or postfix password?
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[19:48:02] <devdas> password
[19:55:16] <cgibin> thank you agin devdas
[19:56:44] <muscov> to=<blah at blah dot com>, relay=none, delay=0.02, delays=0.02/0/0/0, dsn=5.4.4, status=bounced (Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=localhost type=A: Host not found)
[19:56:57] <muscov> any idea why i'm getting that upon sending an email? localhost does resolve
[19:57:13] <xpoint> dig localhost
[19:57:20] <xpoint> host 127.0.0.1
[19:57:28] <xpoint> is that working ?
[19:57:50] <muscov> yup
[19:58:10] <xpoint> does postfix use nis ?
[19:58:21] <xpoint> postconf -d | grep nis
[19:58:38] <xpoint> or
[19:58:49] <xpoint> postconf -n | grep nis
[19:58:57] <xpoint> if so remove it :)
[19:59:05] <muscov> they're unset
[19:59:21] <xpoint> unset ?
[19:59:42] <cgibin> nu chvo kochis ya tebya pamagu
[19:59:51] <muscov> well, alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases, nis:mail.aliases
[20:00:57] <rob0> !chroot
[20:00:57] <knoba> rob0: "chroot" : The fifth column in master.cf, if not n , means that the Postfix process described on that line runs in a chroot, see !debug and !queue_directory .
[20:03:32] <muscov> xpoint, it was a content_filter = smtp:[localhost]: causing the problem
[20:04:25] <vice-versa> cgibin: depyt tsuj uoy saw ti kcuf eht tahw eulc on evah ew
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[20:05:19] <cgibin> huh
[20:05:20] <rob0> and vice-versa (except, I actually DO understand that.)
[20:05:34] <xpoint> muscov, postconf -e 'alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases'
[20:05:39] <cgibin> i don't, he was refering to me
[20:06:02] <cgibin> what lango was that rob0
[20:06:19] <rob0> rev(1)
[20:08:32] <vice-versa> hehe
[20:08:36] <cgibin> hehe
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[22:16:04] <brad[]> Hi folks, I'm getting 'mail loops back to myself' trying to redirect select users to an IP alias on the same host (to which another mailsystem is bound). I get the sense this is related to postfix seeing the same hostname in the HELO message. Anyone have an idea?
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[22:32:05] <rob0> !loopback
[22:32:06] <knoba> rob0: "loopback" : 'Mail loops back to myself' means that your Postfix wanted to send out the mail to the internet but then discovered that the DNS says your mail server should be responsible. Most likely you forgot to list your domain in mydestination or virtual_(alias|mailbox)_domains
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[22:56:18] <Cyllene> Hey everyone.
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[22:57:08] <Cyllene> I am using postfix 2.4.3. I am looking to have postfix listen on two interfaces.
[22:57:17] <Cyllene> I have a virtual mailbox setup for domain1.com
[22:57:56] <Cyllene> I have another ip address, which I want to be a front for domain2.com
[22:58:18] <Cyllene> I want me at domain2 dot com to redirect to me at domain1 dot com
[22:58:31] <Cyllene> It "sort of" works.
[22:59:09] <Cyllene> On domain2.com, I can accept mail for domain1.com, but I can't accept mail for domain2.com. It gives me a relay error.
[22:59:25] <Cyllene> So I added domain1.com to the relay list.
[22:59:27] <Cyllene> No luck
[22:59:48] <rob0> !virtual
[22:59:48] <knoba> rob0: "virtual" : a way to configure additional domains and user accounts (that do not need to exist in your /etc/passwd). See: http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html
[22:59:54] <rob0> !virtual_alias_domains
[22:59:54] <knoba> rob0: "virtual_alias_domains" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional list of names of virtual alias domains, that is, domains for which all addresses are aliased to addresses in other local or remote domains.
[23:00:41] <rob0> You would list #2 in virtual_alias_domains and put a mapping of users in virtual_alias_maps.
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[23:02:24] <rob0> BTW with local(8) delivery this is easier. You simply list both domains in mydestination, and unixuser at domain dot one is the same as unixuser at domain dot two.
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[23:07:05] <Cyllene> rob0: Well, the idea is to separate the two mail processes from each other.
[23:07:28] <Cyllene> I don't want anyone on ip1, domain1, to be sending mail to domain2, which is on ip2
[23:09:14] <Cyllene> At the present time I have:
[23:09:19] <Cyllene> relay_domains=domain1.com
[23:09:27] <Cyllene> virtual_mailbox_domains=domain2.com
[23:09:38] <Cyllene> virtual_alias_maps=hash:...
[23:09:47] <Cyllene> inet_interfaces=second interface
[23:10:22] <rob0> 20:58 < Cyllene> I want me at domain2 dot com to redirect to me at domain1 dot com
[23:10:24] <rob0> 21:07 < Cyllene> I don't want anyone on ip1, domain1, to be sending mail to domain2, which is on ip2
[23:10:40] <rob0> The same users? Huh?
[23:12:15] <Cyllene> I want it to be a "hidden" redirect.
[23:12:27] <Cyllene> So like
[23:13:20] <Cyllene> On ip2 you can send mail to me at domain2 dot com, but you can't send mail to me at domain1 dot com. However mail that gets sent to me at domain2 dot com gets forwarded to me at domain1 dot com
[23:13:22] <Cyllene> afk
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[23:15:10] <rob0> Are you talking about your users' submission, or about MX from the Internet? If the latter, MX records control which IP address other MTAs will connect to.
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[23:49:06] <duli> what's a "namespace"?
[23:50:21] <devdas> context?
[23:50:25] <devdas> C++?
[23:55:28] <duli> ?devdas: configuration option in dovecot
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