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[00:04:39] <tld> *sigh*
[00:04:56] <tld> I'm tempted to start a campain to only accept mail deliveries with TLS (STARTTLS) after 2009.
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[00:10:13] <vice-versa> indeed, let's call it 'Secure Mail Transfer Protocol', just to toss confusion into the mix
[00:10:34] <tld> ;)
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[00:19:40] <jcrites> jeev: lol, I'm watching that too
[00:19:48] <jcrites> guy just got owned by a mammoth
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[00:34:23] <jeev> lol
[00:34:25] <jeev> i left that
[00:34:27] <jeev> i'm not watching it anymore
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[01:00:59] <simmerz> I have a load of mail sitting in a queue that came over from a different mail server accidentally when i mis-configured a relay. is there any way to re-inject that mail back to the other server?
[01:02:31] <simmerz> the problem is that the way the old config worked was that it used username.domain.tld at mydomain dot tld as the destination, and mydomain.tld is set to relay to the new server, and is set to be accepted by the new server too
[01:02:59] <simmerz> but those users don't exist, as they're for different real domains
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[02:43:01] <desrt> hi.  i recall that there is some option to make postfix delay before sending the smtp greeting message and disconnect the client if a helo/ehlo is received too soon
[02:43:16] <desrt> i don't recall what it is called.  can someone remind me?
[02:47:41] <mjoseph> pipelining
[02:48:02] <mjoseph> i believe the restriction is reject_unauth_pipelining or something along those lines
[02:48:15] <desrt> right... but how do you tell it to pause at the start?
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[08:01:27] <rpminihan> Hello.  Does anyone know if postfix can be configured to deliver to two diff imap servers.  i.e. cyrus running on two servers?
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[08:26:10] <jMCg> rpminihan: at the same time or depending on <insert profound reason>?
[08:30:08] <rpminihan> Same time.  Basically a mirrored imap
[08:33:36] <jMCg> rpminihan: you want a IMAP proxy/loadbalancer then
[08:37:55] <rpminihan> Do you have any suggestions for that?
[08:39:53] <loompek> umm
[08:40:02] <loompek> one storage and multibple front-ends
[08:40:19] <loompek> storage should be shared, of course..
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[08:40:26] <loompek> nas/san or whatever
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[09:02:45] <jMCg> rpminihan: Nope. STW.
[09:03:02] <jMCg> loompek: NFS!
[09:03:50] <rpminihan> STW?
[09:04:07] <rpminihan> Ah, search the web.
[09:05:24] <loompek> jMCg why not nas/san
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[09:06:45] <jMCg> loompek: just file that under random interjection.
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[09:36:01] <gonzales112> hi, where can i find information about postfix logs ? like ehat is the meaning of delays etc..
[09:37:11] <loompek> mailq
[09:37:29] <loompek> or postqueue -p
[09:39:07] <loompek> that's for the queue... if you need logs, then i suggest /var/log/maillog or something like that.. check /etc/syslog.conf or whatever for the correct path.. could be /var/log/mail*
[09:41:58] <gonzales112> sorry for not being clear  - i want to understand what is the format for the logs,what the word delays means in the logs
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[09:56:02] <Thlayli> can someone please help me? I've been trying for hours to get my postfix smtp auth done in vain
[09:56:14] <Thlayli> i can receive mails just fine, yet, authentication for smtp always fails
[09:56:18] <Thlayli> SASL PLAIN authentication failed...
[09:56:45] <Thlayli> as far as i can tell, all the configs look alright, but i have next to none experience with mail servers
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[09:57:33] <mohshami> hey guys, I have postfix configured to use AD as an ldap backend, but some times all my AD servers just stop responding to ldap requests, I configured a hash based map after ldap but when a timeout happens I get a temporary lookup failure error and the hash isn't checked, what should I be looking for?
[10:01:33] <Thlayli> how can i get sasl into verbose mode, so i can see what is failing exactly?
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[10:28:15] <Thlayli> is there any way to debug sasl
[10:28:20] <Thlayli> to check why it's not working
[10:28:23] <Thlayli> ?
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[11:04:06] <ullio> hi. is there a way to manipulate the mail header before passing it to the transport?
[11:06:31] <gonzales112> ullio, what headers?
[11:08:27] <ullio> rcpt to
[11:08:40] <ullio> or to - whatever makes dspam to work on t
[11:08:47] <ullio> he right recipient address
[11:09:42] <gonzales112> http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_REWRITING_README.html
[11:12:35] <ullio> where in that diagram kicks the dspam-add transport in? at the endo of the chain along with local, lmtp?
[11:14:00] <gonzales112> mm don't know much about dspam,sorry
[11:15:10] <ullio> i mean as a transport. transports go in the end, or?
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[11:22:06] <_okta> is there an example for a perl based content-filter?
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[11:37:01] <mohshami> hey guys, sometimes my ldap maps fail because of network issues, is there a way to have postfix just ignore the ldap table and jump to a hash table when a lookup failure happens?
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[14:55:29] <ulliol_> i have just freshly installed clamav-daemon and set the TCPSocket and IP. When i start the daemon now, no pid file is created. no error message, nothing. syslog is empty, clamav log looks just fine - no mentionig of any socketthough - am i missing something obvious?
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[15:00:16] <ulliol_> clamd at 100% cpu right now
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[15:13:53] <ulliol_> can i attach a content_filter to any transport i define or is that something that the transport it self has to deal with?
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[15:22:44] <Trengo> how can i transfer the queued mail to another machine?
[15:23:02] <Trengo> set up a "global" transport and flush?
[15:29:40] <ulliol_> plus this question: why is the ${sasl_username} var empty in postfix pipe transport. i use postfix 2.3.x. any idead anyone?
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[15:59:37] <ulliol_> in verbose logging i can clearly see that i am logged in agains sasl. plus without logging on i cant send
[16:00:02] <ulliol_> so why are all sasl maros empty?
[16:01:22] <ulliol_> plus: even smtpd_sasl_authenticated_header = yes set doest change a thing with the email. the message that gets dealt with by the respective transport doesnt sow any of the expected sasl headers...
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[16:17:12] <EoN> Hi guys.  What would be causing this line, and what do I need to fix to correct it? Jun 22 07:53:05 207-111-222-333 postfix/smtpd[18645]: warning: 207.111.222.333: address not listed for hostname myhost.example.org
[16:17:19] <EoN> (that's an example ip only)
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[16:37:48] <ulliol_> aargh. i guess i know why the sasl macros are empty. the message is recieved with a new message id by the transport
[16:37:56] <ulliol_> thats where the crentials get lost
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[16:51:52] <EoN> Can anyone please help?  Jun 22 07:53:05 207-111-222-333 postfix/smtpd[18645]: warning: 207.111.222.333: address not listed for hostname myhost.example.org
[16:52:01] <EoN> Wondering what's causing this message.
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[17:31:04] <vice-versa> EoN: reverse DNS on the IP doesn't match what the host name resolves to
[17:33:58] <vice-versa> take your munged paste for example, the PTR for 207.111.222.333 would return someother.example.net instead of myhost.example.org
[17:37:34] <EoN> vice-versa: Ahh I see.  Our isp has setup our rdns record as just example.org - but our host is foo.example.org - would that cause the problem?
[17:38:04] <vice-versa> yes
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[17:47:53] <vice-versa> EoN: it's not a problem per se, it's a warning:, however in this day and age of mail system abuse and subsequent counter measures, you really should have your house in order as it pertains to DNS to increase your chances of successful delivery to other MTAs
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[17:52:37] <EoN> yeah I completely agree vice-versa.
[17:52:53] <EoN> thanks for your advice, very much appreciated. have sent an email to support asking the provider to adjust the rdns ptr record
[17:53:01] <vice-versa> np
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[18:02:26] <ulliol_> for the record: the pipe transport allows *no content_filter*. it uses the envelope sender, something i've completly missed. using the To: header would have killed me. the only way to modify the recipient before postfix pipes it into the transport would be a wrapper to the real transport. something i wont dive into. the last anoying thing is the fact, that the mail is losing its context on the way to the transport. the sasl_* macros supported b
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[18:21:00] <_apk> hi! I have two instances of postfix running on the same machine, but on different ip addresses...in which of the two main.cf do I have to specify alternate_config_directories?
[18:21:02] <_apk> :)
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[18:29:45] <vice-versa> _apk: in the default main.cf
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[18:36:14] <_apk> vice-versa, uhmm...which is the default one? there are two instances on different ip, serving two different domains
[18:36:30] <_apk> have i to choose one of the two as "default"?
[18:37:21] <vice-versa> usually /etc/postfix/main.cf
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[18:37:52] <_apk> thank you vice-versa :)
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[19:38:08] <jpastore> hi I have a server that I setup as a web app server for a client. I'm trying to deliver mail messages to them from a CGI and it's getting routed to the local root inbox instead of their mail server
[19:38:14] <jpastore> any ideas?
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[19:38:32] <jeev> is the CGI set up to send it through smtp or locally
[19:42:28] <sysmonk> jeev: what's the difference ? :)
[19:42:43] <sysmonk> it is sending to the LOCAL root
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[19:43:47] <adaptr> jpastore: what is your recipient address ?
[19:43:59] <sysmonk> adaptr: root
[19:43:59] <sysmonk> ;P
[19:44:06] <adaptr> let him admit it
[19:45:12] <sysmonk> but but but but why doesn't postfix automagically deliver it to the root i want, and not to the local root?!
[19:45:31] <sysmonk> postfix sucks!
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[19:45:38] <sysmonk> ;P
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[19:46:27] <adaptr> !read_my_mind_bitch
[19:46:28] <knoba> adaptr: Error: "read_my_mind_bitch" is not a valid command.
[19:46:31] <adaptr> should be
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[19:49:08] <jeev> what the hell is wrong with you sysmonk
[19:49:12] <jeev> of course it has a lot to do with it
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[19:56:09] <sysmonk> jeev: oh reaaaly?
[19:56:15] <sysmonk> jeev: and what in this case?
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[19:56:35] <sysmonk> jeev: if he sets a recipient to root@hisdomain it doesn't matter if it injects the mail or uses a remote smtp
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[19:57:24] <sysmonk> and if he sets it to jeev at gmail dot com there's no way a remote smtp will deliver it to HIS local root
[19:59:31] <adaptr> unless his postfix config is arsefucked
[19:59:36] <adaptr> I put that at a 50% chance
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[20:01:31] <sysmonk> adaptr: i guess he's mailing to blah@$mydestination
[20:01:33] <sysmonk> but anyway
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[20:01:47] <sysmonk> i think he's a bit .... slow on answering :P
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[20:17:32] <jeev> true sysmonk
[20:17:33] <jeev> you turd
[20:17:36] <jeev> point is
[20:17:43] <jeev> he likely isn't using a smtp, he's pushing through sendmail.
[20:17:58] <sysmonk> yeah, that's the defualt
[20:18:28] <jeev> ok
[20:18:30] <jeev> turd licker
[20:18:39] <sysmonk> 24" asshole
[20:18:40] <sysmonk> ;))
[20:20:00] <jeev> ahah
[20:20:02] <jeev> by the way
[20:20:05] <jeev> i have a line going through the button
[20:20:11] <jeev> goes through my start button all the way above the time
[20:20:12] <jeev> black line
[20:20:15] <jeev> i guess the monitor messed up
[20:20:22] <jeev> it's a soyo.. but the best i heard, my friend bought it jacked for me
[20:20:29] <jeev> i guess i got the worst one, the other 1 9 he bought were PERFECT
[20:20:33] <jeev> no backlight bleeding, no nothing
[20:20:38] <jeev> mine just has a line going through now, has been like ti for 2 months
[20:22:32] <adaptr> I have no clue what the fuck you're on about - take it to ##hardware
[20:22:36] <sysmonk> dah, my 15" doesn't have any black lines
[20:22:37] <sysmonk> ;P
[20:22:53] <sysmonk> adaptr: i'm bitching around that i have only a 15" and he has a 24"
[20:23:19] <jeev> we're talking about cocks
[20:23:24] <adaptr> who cares, he's flooding my channel with irrelevance
[20:23:25] <sysmonk> yeah
[20:23:26] <adaptr> so git
[20:24:02] <jeev> lol git
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[21:50:35] <ph8> Hey all, i'm wondering if anyone can help me troubleshoot my own mailfilter, which I just made - It starts up and mail is getting delivered (correctly??) but for some reason CCs don't always work and i have no idea why - code here => http://pastebin.com/m1c7b4be6 -- also strangely the log entry echoes don't appear in the log file at all - i'm getting no output from the filter while it's running
[21:54:28] <ph8> anyone? has anyone got experience with their own filters/
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[23:43:03] <tsh_> How do i check whats in the postfix queue ?
[23:43:46] <loompek> tsh_ postqueue -p
[23:43:51] <loompek> i guess
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[23:44:18] <rob0> mailq(1) postcat(1)
[23:44:26] <tsh_> how can i kill whatever is in the queue
[23:44:28] <tsh_> it wont send
[23:44:32] <tsh_> so i need to delete it
[23:44:36] <rob0> postsuper(1)
[23:45:56] <tsh_> postsuper -d * wont work hehe, how can i delete the whole queue or does it have to be one by ione ?
[23:47:19] <mjoseph> postsuper -d ALL
[23:47:23] <mjoseph> but  bad, bad idea
[23:47:38] <tsh_> why ?
[23:47:51] <mjoseph> well, a few reasons
[23:48:38] <tsh_> care to elaborate ?
[23:48:44] <mjoseph> 1) even if you wnat to delete everything, it's a race condition...  a new message could arrive while the command is being run and that would also be deleted.  it's best to select the messages for deletion by moving them to the hold queue, verify them, and then delete the hold queue mail
[23:49:19] <mjoseph> 2) deleting all mail because something "doens't work" is rarely a good course of action
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[23:49:38] <mjoseph> i'd suggest figuring out why your mail server isn't working properly
[23:49:43] <tsh_> no i have fixed the error, and these are an adverse affect of the error anomalies that wont ever send
[23:49:53] <tsh_> secondly killing smtpd / pop / imap would mean no mails arrive
[23:49:58] <tsh_> so.. that thwarts them to
[23:50:55] <mjoseph> well, if you're comfortable with it, we gave you the command
[23:51:59] <tsh_> thank you
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