[00:00:55] <shasta> it is normal when authentication fails
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[00:00:57] <shasta> *sigh*
[00:01:07] <jeev> i mean is digest md5 compatible with TLS or not
[00:01:17] <jeev> i word things crappily :D
[00:01:33] <shasta> oh my god
[00:01:55] <jeev> heh
[00:02:28] <shasta> yes, it is compatible
[00:03:00] <shasta> storing cleartext passwords?
[00:03:18] <jeev> ahh
[00:03:20] <jeev> authdaemond doesn't.
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[00:03:40] <shasta> 'cause I hope you do know, that *-MD5 won't work without knowing passwords on both ends
[00:03:51] <jeev> yea, it wont work with authdaemond
[00:03:54] <jeev> mysql hashes the password..
[00:04:09] <jeev> authdaemond forces to mech_list: plain login
[00:04:18] <jeev> what are other things people do for virtual hosting? other than authdaemond?
[00:04:58] <shasta> you mean, apart from hiring competent admins?
[00:05:03] <tld> Jun 20 00:04:35 us postfix/smtpd[83675]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from eu0267f.lyceu.net[213.193.9.48]: 550 5.7.1 <relay1.vip.lyceu.net>: Helo command rejected: Due to recent new Swedish laws, we no longer accept email from Sweden without STARTTLS.  Please call your email administrator, and ask her to enable STARTTLS.; from=<noreply at staff dot spray.se> to=<terje at elde dot net> proto=ESMTP helo=<relay1.vip.lyceu.net>
[00:05:09] <tld> Just couldn't help myself. ;)
[00:05:18] <shasta> haha
[00:05:21] <jeev> heh
[00:07:37] <shasta> jeev, and by the way, it doesn't matter if it's authdaemond or jeevdaemond. it WON'T work with either CRAM-MD5 or DIGEST-MD5, when there are only crypted passwords to check
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[00:07:37] <jeev> yea, i understood that already
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[00:20:40] <simmerz> I've got my new mail server set up, but i want to have it and the old one run concurrently while I migrate stuff. I'd also like the old one to redirect mail to the new one until the MX records change over. should I be using relay_domains and relay_transport for that, given that the existing config uses virtual_* ?
[00:24:16] <jeev> 530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first
[00:24:17] <jeev> wonderful
[00:24:19] <jeev> i have auth only off..
[00:26:59] <jeev> smtpd_tls_security_level :<
[00:28:18] <jeev> if i have all verbosity in master.cf turned off for smtpd, what is the best way to debug this? without having to turn it on.
[00:28:18] <jeev> Jun 19 15:23:17 earthquake postfix/smtpd[69230]: connect from mail1.dslextreme.com[66.51.199.25]
[00:28:18] <jeev> Jun 19 15:23:17 earthquake postfix/smtpd[69230]: disconnect from mail1.dslextreme.com[66.51.199.25]
[00:28:25] <cite> tld: How did you implement that restriction?
[00:28:27] <jeev> cause i know it was starttls due to bounce
[00:29:37] <tld> cite: access policy delegation script
[00:30:19] <cite> tld: *sigh* I was afraid that you'd answer that :-)
[00:30:21] <tld> cite: If the sending IP is in Sweden, or the senders email end in .se, check key-length, and if key-length <= 0, bounce it
[00:30:57] <tld> cite: I'm Norwegian, but most of the spam I get isn't.
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[00:31:07] <tld> cite: So I use it to do things like greylisting, but not for Norwegian IPs.
[00:31:35] <cite> tld: I see.
[00:32:36] <tld> Or actually, I just greylist countries I have little to do with, but which gives me a lot of spam.
[00:32:42] <tld> Peru, Brazil, China, Russia etc
[00:33:01] <tld> and any email sent from a Windows machine. ;)
[00:33:03] <tld> (more or less)
[00:33:52] <tld> So I can have my cake and eat it too.  Then add desert. :)
[00:36:24] <shasta> policy daemons <3
[00:38:04] <tld> policy daemons + GeoIP + OS fingerprinting == *gold*
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[00:43:08] <shasta> + dnsbl :)
[00:43:34] <tld> yeah
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[00:45:37] <jeev> you guys really count on dnsbl ?
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[00:47:14] <simmerz> I've got my new mail server set up, but i want to have it and the old one run concurrently while I migrate stuff. I'd also like the old one to redirect mail to the new one until the MX records change over. should I be using relay_domains and relay_transport for that, given that the existing config uses virtual_* ?
[00:47:38] <shasta> sure, but not rejecting (as in 5xx) emails just because sender is in dnsbl
[00:48:04] <shasta> for example, I greylist stuff listed in dnsbl
[00:50:13] <shasta> simmerz, lower the ttl on your domain; on the old server, defer (4xx) everything; move stuff to the new machine; update your dns mx records
[00:50:28] <shasta> that's what brian boitano'd do ;)
[00:50:45] <simmerz> shasta: lower to what, 10 mins?
[00:51:19] <shasta> depends, if you can handle the dns traffic you can even go <1min
[00:51:33] <simmerz> not my dns servers, so i don't want to abuse them
[00:51:46] <simmerz> also, how would i defer everything?
[00:52:02] <simmerz> i'd like to do it one domain at a time if possible ?
[00:52:30] <shasta> appropriate check_recipient_access? :)
[00:53:23] <simmerz> ok
[00:54:50] <shasta> you should wait $OLDTTL before starting to 4xxing emails, just to be on the safe side
[00:55:11] <simmerz> of course
[00:56:13] <simmerz> now, does this add complication to it? at the moment, mail goes to mail.domain.tld and gets scanned there and put into the mailboxes. the new config means that the mx will now be mail.scanner.tld and will forward to mail.domain.tld
[00:57:07] <shasta> are both mail.domain.tld the same machine?
[00:57:23] <simmerz> no
[00:57:37] <simmerz> shifting everything from one machine to a new one
[00:58:03] <simmerz> hence why i figured it would be better to redirect mail to the new server from the old while the mx records change over
[00:58:17] <shasta> no reason, really
[00:58:36] <simmerz> that way I can make sure all mail is accepted and all users are on the new system and then just change everything over and no difference to their experience then
[00:58:56] <shasta> by deferring all emails on the old mx you make MTAs sending emails to you queue it until some MX for your domain is back online acceppting mails
[00:59:23] <shasta> and you make the latter by changing MX to point to your new machine
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[01:00:13] <shasta> of course, "that's what I'd do", there may be better solutions
[01:00:18] <shasta> just ask rob0 ;-)
[01:00:29] <rob0> no don't do that!!
[01:00:50] <simmerz> rob0: heh. would you forward mail in relay fashion?
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[02:48:49] <majikman> my postfix installation is configured for an arbitrary domain name, domain.com. it keeps trying to send system messages to root at domain dot com when it should be sending those system messages to the local machines root inbox. how do i configure it to stop snending messages to root at domain dot com?
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[03:06:42] <rob0> !basic
[03:06:42] <knoba> rob0: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
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[03:26:19] <scorpi0> evening all, is there anyone about i could ask a quick question regarding Postfix
[03:30:33] <mwalling> !ask
[03:30:33] <knoba> mwalling: "ask" : If you have a question, just ask. Precise questions lead to precise answers. Vague descriptions of your problem will get you nowhere. See also: http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc
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[03:36:55] <scorpi0> thanks :)
[03:39:02] <majikman> my postfix installation is configured for an arbitrary domain name, domain.com. it keeps trying to send system messages to root at domain dot com when it should be sending those system messages to the local machines root inbox. how do i configure it to stop snending messages to root at domain dot com but continue sending mail to all other users @domain.com?
[03:39:18] <seekwill> How much will you sell domain.com for?
[03:39:32] <majikman> its free
[03:39:42] <seekwill> Cool!
[03:39:49] <majikman> after you answer my question
[03:40:02] <mwalling> !mydestination
[03:40:03] <knoba> mwalling: "mydestination" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The list of domains that Postfix delivers via the $local_transport mail delivery transport. By default, mail is given to the Postfix local(8) delivery agent that looks up all recipients in /etc/passwd and /etc/aliases, or their equivalents.
[03:40:04] <mwalling> !basic
[03:40:05] <knoba> mwalling: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[03:40:05] <seekwill> All messages to root at domain dot com?
[03:40:15] <mwalling> oh
[03:40:16] <seekwill> Oh whew, mwalling is here
[03:40:21] <mwalling> !basic
[03:40:22] <knoba> mwalling: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[03:40:23] <mwalling> !alias
[03:40:24] <knoba> mwalling: Error: "alias" is not a valid command.
[03:40:27] <mwalling> !aliases
[03:40:28] <knoba> mwalling: Error: "aliases" is not a valid command.
[03:40:38] <mwalling> bah
[03:41:09] <majikman> mydestination isn't the answer is it?
[03:41:18] <mwalling> no
[03:41:22] <mwalling> i misread
[03:41:32] <mwalling> anyway, its covered in !basic
[03:41:33] <majikman> i tried looking at aliases too but i didn't see it in there, unlesss i need to re-read it
[03:41:47] <majikman> ok
[03:42:25] <mwalling> from /etc/postfix/aliases:
[03:42:26] <mwalling> # Person who should get root's mail. Don't receive mail as root!
[03:42:26] <mwalling> root:   mwalling
[03:42:49] <majikman> oh.... ok. thanks
[03:43:04] <seekwill> You know, I was about to say that...
[03:43:09] <seekwill> ;)
[03:43:26] <majikman> hmm... is it possible to get it to send to the root user's mailbox?
[03:43:43] <majikman> that just sends to mwallling at domain dot com right?
[03:43:51] <harlan> sure, remove that alias.  Or use root: root,wherever
[03:44:09] <majikman> root: root works?
[03:44:32] <harlan> it didi with sendmail.
[03:44:49] <mwalling> ...
[03:44:50] <harlan> try it and see.
[03:44:52] <mwalling> wait...
[03:44:53] <mwalling> what?
[03:45:02] <mwalling> why would you alias something to itsself
[03:45:07] <majikman> well, whats the point of that?
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[03:45:22] <mwalling> just remove the alias if you dont want it there
[03:45:33] <jerrcs> ello guys, i'm getting some mail problems:  Jun 19 18:42:13 debian postfix/qmgr[21494]: 439762704BD: to=, relay=none, delay=128519, delays=128519/0/0/0, dsn=4.4.3, status=deferred (delivery temporarily suspended: Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=gmail.com type=MX: Host not found, try again)
[03:45:43] <jerrcs> normally id look at my dns and make sure that's working, but it is working.. so i'm confused
[03:48:53] <jerrcs> any suggestions?
[03:49:28] <seekwill> How did you check?
[03:49:52] <jerrcs> well, I did a hostname lookup via the "host" command
[03:50:09] <seekwill> On the postfix box?
[03:50:13] <majikman> mwalling, so i'm still trying to wrap my head around this. i'm trying to deliver system generated messages for the root user to deliver to local inbox of the machine instead of through postfix.... and what you're saying i should do is create an alias?
[03:50:23] <jerrcs> seekwill: yep.
[03:50:24] <seekwill> jerrcs: How about "dig gmail.com mx" on the postfix box...
[03:50:31] <seekwill> Pastebin the output too
[03:51:20] <jerrcs> http://jerrcs.com/dig.txt
[03:52:24] <seekwill> jerrcs: Well, maybe try sending it again
[03:52:32] <seekwill> Maybe your DNS server was down that time
[03:52:33] <jerrcs> I did :( I tried almost 3 times now.
[03:52:40] <jerrcs> i did postsuper -r ALL
[03:52:49] * seekwill doesn't know
[03:52:51] <jerrcs> then watched /var/log/mail.log to see the same problem
[03:53:05] <jerrcs> maybe I have to restart postfix because it's /etc/resolv.conf is cached...
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[03:54:49] <mwalling> majikman: .... whats going to deliver root's mail if its not postfix?
[03:55:09] <jerrcs> okay, that was it... it was freaking caching /etc/resolv.conf (i've changed nameservers lately)
[03:55:18] <majikman> mwalling, well, maybe i'm wrong about that. maybe i do want postfix to deliver it, but i want it to deliver to the local root users mailbox instead of root at domain dot com
[03:55:19] <jerrcs> thanks guys, my bad. have a nice evening, alrighty?
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[04:13:50] <Rockj> Hmf, anyone running workaround.org tutorial like setup, just with postgres 8.x? Ive searched the internet whole evening and the thing that seems to fix my issue is disabling ssl in postgresql. Even removed chroot on smtpd and still wouldn't work on unix sockets or ip. but if I disabled ssl in postgresql, and used 127.0.0.1 as hosts in pgsql-virtual-*.cf , its working
[04:14:09] <Rockj> problem is that I need to have ssl support for postgresql, since it should be accessible from outside..
[04:18:45] <rob0> So, the issue is that you need PostgreSQL to accept non-SSL from localhost, but SSL from the outside?
[04:20:02] <Rockj> but postgres already accepts all kind of connections (both ssl and non-ssl) , and I get error like this: http://pastebin.ca/1051243
[04:23:28] <Rockj> rob0, http://pastebin.ca/1051647  , trivial-rewrite with verbose on - but that doesn't tell me anything more then I already know..
[04:23:49] <Rockj> warning: connect to pgsql server 127.0.0.1: SSL SYSCALL error: No such file or directory?
[04:24:58] <Rockj> testing the postgres tables with postmap works..
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[04:30:06] <jeev> i'm so freaked out by the automatic reject_rbl_client
[04:30:16] <jeev> i still need to impliment spamassassin..
[04:30:20] <jeev> unless if anyone has any other suggestions ?
[04:31:33] <rob0> You said you removed chroot for smtpd(8), but the problem here is trivial-rewrite(8).
[04:31:58] <rob0> If you don't want to / can't maintain the chroot environment, don't chroot ANYTHING.
[04:32:25] <rob0> And jeev, what is this "automatic reject_rbl_client"?
[04:37:11] <jeev> hmm
[04:37:31] <jeev> reject_rbl_client bl.spamcop.net
[04:37:33] <jeev> for example..
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[04:38:21] <rob0> How is that automatic, if you put it there?
[04:38:25] <Rockj> rob0, mhm - not chrooting trivial-rewrite works. Need to research on how to fix available ssl libs into chroot then I guess.
[04:38:49] <jeev> i mean automatic rejection.. instead of weights with spamassassin.
[04:39:10] <rob0> Oh I wouldn't use spamcop for rejection either.
[04:39:54] <jeev> what do you suggest? i was on spamcop the other day, my stupid mailing list was double bouncing, i stopped paying attention to it
[04:39:59] <jeev> i was on it for a day
[04:40:12] <rob0> !zen
[04:40:12] <knoba> rob0: "zen" : http://www.spamhaus.org/zen/ : A composite of all Spamhaus DNSBLs: SBL, XBL and PBL
[04:40:28] <rob0> also HELO checks ...
[04:40:32] <rob0> !cheatsheet
[04:40:33] <knoba> rob0: "cheatsheet" : http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt : A HOWTO for pre-DATA spam control.
[04:40:41] <jeev> yea, i'm about to read that thing
[04:40:48] <jeev> looks freaky dicky
[04:41:06] <Rockj> Im using policyd-weight, works quite handy
[04:41:38] <jeev> i guess i shall try zen
[04:44:43] <rob0> Zen made a major difference, a little over a year ago when PBL went live.
[04:45:11] <jeev> i just dont want friends and stuff getting filtered
[04:45:14] <rob0> dramatic improvement over sbl-xbl
[04:46:06] <jaldhar> 550 Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual alias table
[04:46:15] <rob0> People on PBL shouldn't be going direct-to-MX. And if they are, they can remove themselves from it. And if they don't, who do you blame? :)
[04:46:27] <rob0> !unknown_virtual
[04:46:27] <knoba> rob0: "unknown_virtual" : \"User unknown in virtual $X table\" means that the recipient domain was found in $virtual_$X_domains but the username@domain was not found in $virtual_$X_maps. ("$X" can be either alias or mailbox .)
[04:46:30] <jaldhar> means it is not picking up my virtual_alias_map at all right
[04:46:33] <jaldhar> ?
[04:46:53] <jaldhar> ok that's what I thought
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[04:51:48] <jeev> yea i know rob0.
[04:52:39] <jeev> Ref: PBL219652
[04:52:39] <jeev> 190.84.0.0/19 is listed on the Policy Block List (PBL)
[04:52:42] <jeev> heh
[04:52:47] <jeev> /19? isnt' that too much
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[04:54:03] <jeev> anyway
[04:55:05] <jeev> is there graphing software for rejected emails? :D
[04:55:44] <jaldhar> ok I'm really stumped now.  My aliases work.  My virtual alias domains stubbornly refuse to work.  What things can I try to debug this?
[04:57:04] <jeev> what's your set up
[05:00:23] <jaldhar> jeev: Debian etch, mailman 2.1.9, postfix 2.3.8
[05:00:54] <jaldhar> jeev: but I'm ignoring mailman for now and just trying to get regular virtual domains working
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[06:07:59] <snadge> yesterday someone in here pointed out that postfix 2.3 enabled support for DSN, and pointed me to some documentation
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[06:08:35] <snadge> this documentation appeared to indicate that i _could_ disable DSN.. but that I couldn't selectively do it just for the success messages.. have I interpreted this wrong?
[06:09:25] <snadge> i want to supress the delivery of postfix generated delivery successful messages.. but not the failure/delay ones
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[06:42:16] <roe_> !senderid
[06:42:16] <knoba> roe_: "senderid" : Having hotmail delivery issues? - Consider having your server added to the Microsoft Sender ID program. Get your house in order first! Add a reverse dns ptr record for the ip of the server, forward should match reverse and helo. Create a valid spf record for the domain(s) then wander on over to https://support.msn.com/eform.aspx?productKey=senderid&ct=eformts and submit your request to be added
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[07:05:41] <loompek> good morning
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[08:10:05] <onik> I need help to start using postfix.
[08:10:05] <onik> I am using postfix mail version 2.5.2 with Centos 4.6
[08:10:05] <onik> I am trying to configure postfix with sasl authentication but getting below error.
[08:10:05] <onik> Jun 20 14:33:01 postfix/smtpd[16510]: warning: SASL authentication failure: cannot connect to saslauthd server: Permission denied
[08:10:05] <onik> Jun 20 14:33:01 postfix/smtpd[16510]: warning: unknown : SASL LOGIN authentication failed: generic failure
[08:10:07] <onik> Please help..
[08:12:16] <jeev> what are you trying to do
[08:12:21] <jeev> what authentication do you prefer
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[08:14:28] <onik> i want to setup smtp relay server
[08:14:34] <onik> plain text authentication
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[08:21:19] <onik> anyone please help me out
[08:21:26] <f3ew> !sasl
[08:21:27] <knoba> f3ew: "sasl" : SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.
[08:21:32] <f3ew> See that URL
[08:21:39] <f3ew> Oh wait
[08:21:46] <f3ew> Is smtpd running chrooted?
[08:21:57] <f3ew> See /etc/opstfix/master.cf, 5th column (chroot)
[08:22:05] <f3ew> /etc/postfix/master.cf even
[08:23:12] <sysmonk> opstfix
[08:23:20] <sysmonk> opt-postfix? ;P
[08:25:00] <f3ew> typo
[08:25:11] <sysmonk> nah, i know you're using a stupid distro
[08:25:12] <sysmonk> ;P
[08:25:21] <sysmonk> or solaris
[08:25:22] <Rowellen> hi, I have a php script that sends a newsletter from a server which is not a mail server but i have installed postfix and it is running but...
[08:25:37] <Rowellen> postfix rewrites the headers
[08:25:37] <f3ew> but?
[08:25:42] <f3ew> In what way?
[08:26:00] <sysmonk> f3ew: it draws flowers around your name
[08:26:11] <f3ew> lol
[08:26:17] <onik> no.. smtp is not running chrooted..
[08:26:23] <onik> i am using dovecot
[08:27:19] <Rowellen> the script specifies to send it out as me at mydomain dot com but postfix sends it out as root@anotherdomain
[08:27:29] <Rowellen> is this possible?
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[08:29:35] <f3ew> Is saslauthd running?
[08:29:52] <sysmonk> does dovecot use saslauthd?
[08:30:09] <sysmonk> (i'm not a dovecot user)
[08:30:09] <f3ew> Rowellen, call your PHP mail() function with the envelope sender option specified
[08:30:17] * f3ew isn't either
[08:30:24] <sysmonk> f3ew: cyrus?
[08:30:31] <onik> yes
[08:30:34] <f3ew> yes
[08:30:39] <sysmonk> f3ew: ah, soul brother :P
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[08:31:05] <f3ew> Well, the bigger reason is that the current hosts use qmail + Courier
[08:31:23] <sysmonk> bleh
[08:31:30] <sysmonk> bleh qmail
[08:31:31] <sysmonk> bleh courier
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[08:31:40] * sysmonk vomits
[08:31:57] <sysmonk> you're not my soul brother anymore!
[08:34:03] <onik> some forum suggested #adduser postfix sasl . but it gives below message ..
[08:34:05] <onik> usage: adduser  [-u uid [-o]] [-g group] [-G group,...]
[08:34:05] <onik>                 [-d home] [-s shell] [-c comment] [-m [-k template]]
[08:34:05] <onik>                 [-f inactive] [-e expire ] [-p passwd] [-M] [-n] [-r] [-l] name
[08:34:05] <onik>        adduser  -D [-g group] [-b base] [-s shell]
[08:34:05] <onik>                 [-f inactive] [-e expire ]
[08:34:22] <sysmonk> ..
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[08:35:22] <f3ew> onik, filesystem permissions to the saslauthd socket?
[08:35:30] <f3ew> sysmonk we are getting rid of thoswe
[08:35:32] <f3ew> those
[08:35:44] <f3ew> but "legacy" infrastructure
[08:36:05] <sysmonk> ya
[08:36:47] <sysmonk> i have a client with about 45k mailboxes
[08:36:56] <sysmonk> who doesn't care about the server at all
[08:37:00] <sysmonk> and has a nice domain
[08:37:15] <sysmonk> i'm thinking maybe i should offer him privately some help with the server
[08:37:42] <sysmonk> the current antispam solution sucks ;)
[08:37:43] <f3ew> onik and the directory?
[08:37:49] <f3ew> heh
[08:38:03] <sysmonk> + all the software is old
[08:38:15] <f3ew> heh
[08:38:18] <f3ew> good luck
[08:38:25] <sysmonk> nothing was changed in ... 3-4 years
[08:38:30] * f3ew has found that most clients pay nowhere near enough
[08:38:35] <onik> /etc/init.d/saslauthd
[08:38:56] <sysmonk> f3ew: yeah, i'm thinking of taking-over the mx'es and make his stuff work better
[08:39:02] <sysmonk> and put some ads
[08:39:13] <sysmonk> 45k users isn't such a small amount
[08:39:22] <f3ew> aye
[08:39:36] <f3ew> Do't bother about ads
[08:39:39] <f3ew> Don't
[08:39:41] <sysmonk> he'd get a better reputation ( the domain is mostly used NOT for mail )
[08:39:44] <f3ew> Just bill them :P
[08:40:01] <sysmonk> f3ew: that's the problem - they're almost happy with what they have now
[08:40:17] <jeev> just the thought of having spamhaus reject listed ip's freaks me out
[08:40:19] <jeev> should i be freaked out ?
[08:40:27] <f3ew> then they won't pay you enough anyway
[08:40:36] <f3ew> jeev yes
[08:40:41] <sysmonk> f3ew: that's why i'm talking about ads
[08:41:03] <jeev> why f3ew?
[08:41:06] <sysmonk> i clean up their servers and fix them and upgrade them and manage them, and i get the ads $
[08:41:11] <f3ew> ads don't help much, unless you are doing them in large volumes
[08:41:29] <f3ew> jeev why not?
[08:41:37] <sysmonk> f3ew: count this: they pay for the servers, they pay for the hosting, i just manage the server
[08:41:52] <onik> f3ew, sysmonk, jeev any help?
[08:41:54] <jeev> sysmonk, how do you manage a server with a 15" monitor, ha ha ha
[08:42:11] <sysmonk> jeev: atleast i do it better than guy with 23"
[08:42:12] <jeev> noik, what are you trying to do
[08:42:21] <jeev> har har sysmonk.
[08:42:26] <sysmonk> onik: sorry i didn't even read what's your problem
[08:42:41] <sysmonk> i'll be going away in ~10 minutes so it's not worth the trouble to read it ;)
[08:42:56] <onik> i am trying to setup relay server for postfix
[08:43:05] <sysmonk> onik: ^^
[08:43:06] <jeev> i dont use dovecot
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[08:43:18] <sysmonk> and yes, i don't use dovecot too, so not much help from me
[08:43:20] <sysmonk> i'm a cyrus guy
[08:43:27] * sysmonk hugs cyrus-*
[08:43:31] <jeev> sysmonk
[08:43:33] <onik> ok
[08:43:52] <sysmonk> jeev:
[08:43:57] <sysmonk> s/://
[08:43:59] <jeev> zen.spamhaus good enough? should i expect false positives?
[08:44:17] <sysmonk> jeev: zen - yes
[08:44:26] <sysmonk> zen includes PBL's
[08:44:29] <sysmonk> which i don't use
[08:44:49] <sysmonk> so xbl-sbl ( or is it sbl-xbl ? ) .spamhaus is what i'd use
[08:44:54] <jeev> hmm
[08:45:01] <jeev> yea, i was bitching about pbl earlier
[08:45:07] <f3ew> onik, what about permissions all the way to the socket?
[08:45:13] <snappy> zen + pbl.surriel or whatever its called seems pretty good
[08:45:18] <f3ew> psbl
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[08:45:34] <onik> permissions are correct
[08:46:12] <onik> is it  postfi user problem for group sasl?
[08:46:35] <jeev> hmm snappy
[08:47:42] <onik> i am able to login to pop server with the same userid and pw but for sending authenticated email. it is rejected..
[08:49:04] <sysmonk> are your logins in form of user at domain dot com or user ?
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[08:49:25] <sysmonk> ah wiat, you have a permission denied
[08:49:26] <onik> user.domain
[08:49:30] <sysmonk> or you already fixed it?
[08:49:32] <f3ew> onik Jun 20 14:33:01 postfix/smtpd[16510]: warning: SASL authentication failure: cannot connect to saslauthd server: Permission denied
[08:49:44] <f3ew> sysmonk that's the error
[08:49:46] <onik> ya.. permission denied
[08:49:58] <sysmonk> f3ew: yeah i just paged-up and saw it
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[08:50:06] <f3ew> onik you could do a groupadd there
[08:50:06] <jeev> snappy, dnswl?
[08:50:09] <jeev> do any of you use dnswl?
[08:50:13] <f3ew> or rather, usermod
[08:50:29] <onik> groupadd sasl?
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[08:52:32] <snappy> jeev: no.
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[08:55:02] <jeev> i'd use them but their postfix addons are broken links
[08:55:03] <jeev> heh
[08:56:42] <onik>  groupadd: group sasl exist
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[09:25:24] <jeev> wow
[09:25:27] <jeev> how did my server just greylist someone
[09:25:27] <jeev> lol
[09:25:44] <jeev> xbl greylists?
[09:26:00] <jeev> or sb
[09:26:00] <jeev> sl
[09:26:01] <jeev> sbl
[09:26:06] <f3ew> no
[09:27:28] <jeev> http://www.howtoforge.com/postfix_spf
[09:27:31] <jeev> could htat have broke my shit?
[09:28:42] <jeev> do you use spf?
[09:30:50] <snadge> greylist is like postgrey
[09:31:00] <snadge> dont worry thats a good thing :)
[09:31:10] <snadge> it will cut down on spam
[09:31:12] <jeev> i dont understand, was this a bounce?
[09:31:12] <jeev> Jun 20 00:24:44 earthquake postfix/qmgr[72009]: 444F13EE9EA: from=<>, size=4125, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
[09:31:12] <jeev> Jun 20 00:24:45 earthquake postfix/smtp[72012]: 444F13EE9EA: to=<xigrabill at knet dot ca>, relay=mailgate.knet.ca[66.165.220.50]:25, delay=390, delays=390/0.04/0.44/0.09, dsn=4.7.1, status=deferred (host mailgate.knet.ca[66.165.220.50] said: 450 4.7.1 <xigrabill at knet dot ca>: Recipient address rejected: Greylisted, please retry later (in reply to RCPT TO command))
[09:31:22] <jeev> how did this originate from my server??
[09:31:22] <snadge> yes this is normal
[09:32:24] <snadge> you might want to read about greylisting.. but basically, your server will reject mail from unknown senders.. temporarily.. the idea is, if its legitimate, the originating server will retry later (usually between 5 to 20 minutes later)
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[09:32:56] <snadge> most spam is only sent once, therefore the spam generally doesnt come back for a second try
[09:33:05] <jeev> i know about greylisting
[09:33:12] <jeev> but how did that originate from my server?
[09:33:51] <jeev> shit man
[09:33:51] <snadge> mailgate.knet.ca is your server?
[09:33:52] <jeev> i flushed that
[09:33:54] <jeev> nope
[09:34:21] <snadge> thats the server that greylisted it.. not yours
[09:35:04] <jeev> heh
[09:35:08] <jeev> snadge, you're not understand
[09:35:09] <jeev> ing
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[09:35:15] <jeev> why did that mail ORIGINATE from my server
[09:35:17] <jeev> to knet.ca
[09:35:18] <jeev> how?
[09:35:26] <f3ew> It's a bounce
[09:35:51] <jeev> i didn't see anything stgore though
[09:35:54] <snadge> because someone decided to use your mail server to send an email to xigrabill at knet dot ca ?
[09:36:02] <jeev> hmmmmmmmmmm
[09:36:53] <jeev> how do you dump the queue?
[09:37:39] <snadge> postqueue -p
[09:38:36] <jeev> yea, i freaking read the manual
[09:38:39] <jeev> i dunno how tha thing flew by me
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[09:38:49] <jeev> all this spam is getting in now.
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[09:56:54] <Katana_Steel> I get a 451 error with my postfix server, which is surposted to be set up with virtual mailboxes, using this guide: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/virt-mail-howto.xml
[09:57:35] <dragonheart> Katana_Steel: what do your logs say?
[09:57:40] <Katana_Steel> and I have the accounts set up in the mysql database
[09:57:54] <Katana_Steel> hmm.. let me check
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[10:01:25] <Katana_Steel> it says somthing about _sasl_plugin_load failed?
[10:02:56] <Katana_Steel> dragonheart: on sasl_auxprop_plug_init
[10:04:03] <dragonheart> if you do dmesg is there a program crash recorded. try a revdep-rebuild -X to see if its a library ABI problem
[10:04:56] <jeev> Katana_Steel, i've got to sleep, if you're on in like 10 hours, i will try to help
[10:04:56] <jeev> bye
[10:05:19] <loompek> umm.. just a question... in case i have to do address rewriting (both sender and recipient's address) can i use regexp/pcre? it's intended to use for mms mta... i have to translate +123456789 at mms dot domain.com to +123456789 at mms dot mccxxx.mncxxx.gprs for a bunch of mails...
[10:05:35] <Katana_Steel> bye jeev, I don't thing I will but thanks for the offer
[10:05:52] <loompek> and send it out either via grx (gprs) or internet ipsec tunnel
[10:05:59] <Katana_Steel> dragonheart nope no program crashes
[10:06:27] <Katana_Steel> in dmesg
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[10:07:25] <Rowellen> I am using root to send a php script specifies to send it out as me at mydomain dot com but it gets send as root at mydomain dot com
[10:07:29] <Katana_Steel> @jeev s/thing/think
[10:07:54] <dragonheart> other thing to try is a strace -fe trace=open -o /tmp/x -p {master pid}  and look for open errors associated with your plugin
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[10:08:48] <Rowellen> how can i run  the scripts as nobody so that it does not do it?
[10:09:05] <Katana_Steel> which ebuild is strace in?
[10:09:17] <dragonheart> the one called strace
[10:09:39] <Katana_Steel> :) -.-
[10:09:58] <dragonheart> Rowellen: there's ways for postfix to map users that i couldn't be bothered looking up for you :-)
[10:12:43] <Rowellen> I dont want postfix to map users. the php script reads the from header from a db
[10:12:44] * Katana_Steel is glad he didn't do this on his active server, even though this takes longer :)
[10:13:38] <Rowellen> shall I be chatting to the php guys?
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[10:14:29] <f3ew> Rowellen see the PHP docs for mail()
[10:14:35] <dragonheart> Rowellen: probably - postfix will deliver email how it receives it by default
[10:15:32] <Rowellen> cool thanks
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[10:19:13] <Katana_Steel> dragonheart: hmmm... strace attaches to a few processes, but other wise nothing
[10:20:19] <Katana_Steel> 'sql_select option missing' is in syslog would that be anything?
[10:20:49] <dragonheart> probably yes
[10:22:15] <Katana_Steel> could it be a missing USE flag for postfix, or saslauth?
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[10:24:42] <Katana_Steel> well I'll have a few look in that direction, (sql, saslauth and postfix stuff) thanks for now dragonheart.
[10:28:41] <Katana_Steel> hmm looking in the x dump file, (just checked) it tries to dlopen libnss_db.so.2 and gets file not found ...
[10:32:32] <dragonheart> rebuild the applicable package
[10:32:47] * Katana_Steel nods
[10:33:23] <Katana_Steel> I'm just wondering which it is
[10:34:02] <vice-versa> glibc me thinks
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[10:37:50] <Katana_Steel> or perhaps libnss-mysql...
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[10:41:42] <Sysctl> hi, anyone know a good tool for parsing /var/mail/{username} ? In particular for checking for email bounces, so clean up our mailing lists
[10:41:53] <Sysctl> so clean up = to clean up
[10:45:00] <vice-versa> can't parse the mail logs?
[10:45:35] <Trengo> mbox?
[10:45:39] <Trengo> i like mutt
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[10:46:10] <f3ew> Sysctl, verp is your friend
[10:46:13] <f3ew> also, Perl
[10:50:46] <Sysctl> verp, eh?
[10:50:59] <Sysctl> let me google it
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[11:00:12] <sypher> hello guys ... is there a way to stop my users sending spam (1000+ emails) to other users ? whats the most effective way?
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[11:04:14] <f3ew> content filtering + policyd.sf.net
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[11:13:33] <tsauter> Hi all
[11:13:56] <tsauter> after googeling around I haven't found any SPF/SRS solution for postfix. Is there something?
[11:14:27] <dragonheart> sypher: shotgun at close range
[11:14:48] <sypher> dragonheart, they are over a territory of 2000km
[11:15:05] <sypher> i think a nuke could do the job, but that costs money. any way to block them server side?
[11:15:09] <dragonheart> alegidly you can hire poeople for that
[11:15:27] <sypher> f3ew, content filtering is not an option i guess, each mail is different
[11:15:48] <sypher> isnt there a way to limit the rate that they can send off mail at ?
[11:16:08] <f3ew> policyd
[11:16:15] <sypher> allright, going to check thanks
[11:16:30] <f3ew> sypher lots of shotguns
[11:16:52] <sypher> policyd ... is that some kind of greylist ?
[11:17:25] <sypher> ye and not only that. allright keeping on reading.
[11:17:36] <Katana_Steel> or just one shotgun in a car :-)
[11:17:38] <dragonheart> its got lot of policies- not shotgun policies however
[11:17:52] <Edheldil> sypher: if they send spam, just deny access to them
[11:18:50] <sypher> Edheldil, its not so simple.
[11:18:52] <dragonheart> tsauter: you have a problem with aliases to external addresses? provide pop/imap access for your users
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[11:20:01] <sypher_> we're a corporate, just, sometimes someone feels like they can get a sell increase by sending 1500 mails to random users.
[11:20:27] <sypher_> still, cant really reprimand the user more than a angry phone call from me, because they need the mail.
[11:20:45] <sypher_> so i need to find a low level way to block those. policyd seems like the software for me.
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[11:21:34] <sypher_> f3ew, is it "postfix-policyd" ?
[11:21:35] <dragonheart> though its really applying a technical solution to a social problem.
[11:21:38] <dragonheart> yes
[11:21:42] <sypher_> dragonheart, yeah thats it.
[11:22:04] <sypher_> we're trying to solve the social problem, (money fines?), but while we solve it, we still need a technical solution to avoid getting sued ourselves.
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[11:22:40] <sypher_> should i remove postgrey before installin that?
[11:22:42] <niflheim> postfix: fatal: /etc/postfix/main.cf, line 648: missing '=' after attribute name: "permit_mynetworks, huh??? i mean i have smtpd_recipient_restrictions = check_relay_domains, permit_mynetworks,reject_rbl_client sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org
[11:22:52] <niflheim> hy
[11:22:54] <niflheim> :D
[11:23:36] <dragonheart> sypher: just make sure you don't enable two lots of greylisting at once
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[11:28:57] <sypher_> allright; checking.
[11:29:01] <sypher_> thanks guys.
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[11:33:48] <niflheim> dudes
[11:33:49] <niflheim> :D
[11:33:59] <niflheim> i want to try a basic configuration
[11:34:04] <niflheim> anti spam thingy
[11:34:05] <niflheim> :D
[11:34:08] <niflheim> reject_rbl_client sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org,
[11:34:12] <niflheim> i just want that
[11:34:15] <niflheim> in my config
[11:34:25] <vice-versa> niflheim: check_relay_domains has long been deprecated if you're using a current version of postfix
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[11:34:49] <niflheim> i`m not using current :D
[11:35:07] <niflheim> i`m new at this i have 2.0.18
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[11:37:10] <Zequi> hello, need help recently install postfix mas smtp auth and courierpop3 the problem is not possible login
[11:37:18] <Zequi> http://pastebin.com/m34017f36
[11:37:27] <Katana_Steel> ah!  nss-db packages should have libnss-db
[11:39:01] <dragonheart> Katana_Steel: don't quite follow - is it a packaging problem? if so please report it bugs.gentoo.org
[11:39:45] <Katana_Steel> well glibc blocks nss-db, so I'll try to reemerge glibc
[11:39:56] <Katana_Steel> if it persists, I will
[11:40:01] <dragonheart> k
[11:40:21] <Zequi> any help?
[11:40:32] <Katana_Steel> (btw, I use a harden profile)
[11:41:12] <dragonheart> Zequi: any error logs?
[11:43:33] <Zequi> m
[11:43:40] <Zequi> one second
[11:44:56] <Zequi> Jun 20 11:45:10 ticomail courierpop3login: chdir iesthosicodina.cat/admin/: No such file or directory
[11:44:56] <Zequi> Jun 20 11:45:11 ticomail courierpop3login: Connection, ip=[::ffff:192.168.1.3]
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[11:47:51] <Katana_Steel> dragonheart, just a short question while glibc is compiling, whenever I add/remove/change a users information in my database, should I run postmap mysql:<my cf file>?
[11:48:43] <Katana_Steel> or is that only needed for plain file and hash tables?
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[11:49:56] <tuxadm> hi, i need help, we've a list of mailaddresses which only should send and recive mails to a list of allowed domain or adresses, currently i only filter one way.
[11:51:41] <Zequi> dragonheart any idea?
[11:51:53] <Zequi> smtp already auth,the problem is pop3
[11:53:20] <Zequi> user admin tellme this error Jun 20 11:54:38 ticomail courierpop3login: LOGIN FAILED, user=admin, ip=[::ffff:192.168.1.3]
[11:53:21] <Zequi> Jun 20 11:54:43 ticomail courierpop3login: Disconnected, ip=[::ffff:192.168.1.3]
[11:53:22] <Katana_Steel> could it be you /etc/courier/auth*rc ?
[11:53:40] <Katana_Steel> Zequi ^
[11:54:00] <Zequi> question Katana_Steel when try auth from my client use admin or admin@domain?
[11:54:28] <Katana_Steel> most likely user@domain
[11:54:49] <Zequi> ok when use admin@domain
[11:55:33] <Zequi> Jun 20 11:57:34 ticomail courierpop3login: Connection, ip=[::ffff:192.168.1.3]
[11:55:34] <Zequi> Jun 20 11:57:34 ticomail courierpop3login: chdir iesthosicodina.cat/admin/: No such file or directory
[11:55:55] <Katana_Steel> have you created the dir?
[11:56:06] <Zequi> mm
[11:56:42] <Katana_Steel> if so do pop3d have permission to read/write to it?
[11:57:15] <Zequi> what directori Xd
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[11:57:33] <Zequi> in /home/vmail?
[11:57:38] <Katana_Steel> yes
[11:57:47] <Zequi> ticomail:~# locate iesthosicodina
[11:58:16] <Katana_Steel> there's your problem
[11:58:18] <Zequi> group vmail and user vmail
[11:58:26] <Zequi> what is the problem?
[11:59:39] <Katana_Steel> the dir should be "/home/vmail/iesthosicodina.cat/admin/"
[12:00:19] <Katana_Steel> the iesthosicodina  is missing the '.cat'
[12:01:11] <Katana_Steel> so cd /home/vmail && mv iesthosicodina iesthosicodina.cat should help a bit
[12:01:22] <Katana_Steel> so "cd /home/vmail && mv iesthosicodina iesthosicodina.cat" should help a bit
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[12:02:39] <Zequi1> sorry connection loss
[12:02:44] <Katana_Steel> the dir should be "/home/vmail/iesthosicodina.cat/admin/"
[12:02:47] <Katana_Steel> the iesthosicodina  is missing the '.cat'
[12:02:50] <Katana_Steel> so "cd /home/vmail && mv iesthosicodina iesthosicodina.cat" should help a bit
[12:02:51] <Zequi1> aaaa
[12:03:26] <Zequi1> other error XD now
[12:03:48] <Katana_Steel> and remember to chown it
[12:04:07] <Zequi1> m
[12:04:31] <Katana_Steel> chown -R vmail:vmail /home/vmail
[12:04:38] <Zequi1> already chown
[12:05:03] <Zequi1> Jun 20 12:05:24 ticomail courierpop3login: LOGIN, user=admin at iesthosicodina dot cat, ip=[::ffff:192.168.1.3]
[12:05:03] <Zequi1> Jun 20 12:05:24 ticomail courierpop3login: scancur opendir("cur"): No such file or directory
[12:05:03] <Zequi1> Jun 20 12:05:25 ticomail courierpop3login: Connection, ip=[::ffff:192.168.1.3]
[12:05:08] <Zequi1> now this error?
[12:05:18] <Zequi1> is possible Maildir not create?
[12:05:55] <Katana_Steel> maildirmake /home/vmail/iesthosicodina.cat/admin/.maildir
[12:06:38] <Katana_Steel> or send admin a mail should help do it too
[12:06:41] <dragonheart> Katana_Steel: postmap on mysql maps isn't needed
[12:06:55] <Katana_Steel> thanks dragonheart
[12:07:05] <Katana_Steel> just checking
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[12:07:53] <Zequi1> Katana_Steel same error
[12:07:54] <Zequi1> Jun 20 12:09:33 ticomail courierpop3login: Connection, ip=[::ffff:192.168.1.3]
[12:07:54] <Zequi1> Jun 20 12:09:33 ticomail courierpop3login: LOGIN, user=admin at iesthosicodina dot cat, ip=[::ffff:192.168.1.3]
[12:07:54] <Zequi1> Jun 20 12:09:33 ticomail courierpop3login: scancur opendir("cur"): No such file or directory
[12:08:10] <dragonheart> tuxadm: someone was here the other day writing a policy deamon for that
[12:08:24] <Katana_Steel> hmm...
[12:10:31] <Katana_Steel> rm -f /home/vmail/iesthosicodina.cat/admin && maildirmake /home/vmail/iesthosicodina.cat/admin
[12:10:41] <Zequi1> ok
[12:10:43] <Katana_Steel> is worth a shot
[12:11:00] <Zequi1> rm: cannot remove `/home/vmail/iesthosicodina.cat/admin': Is a directory
[12:11:31] <Zequi1> ok
[12:11:32] <Katana_Steel> indeed , I forgot the
[12:11:37] <Katana_Steel> *that
[12:11:38] <Zequi1> already
[12:12:53] <Zequi1> lol
[12:12:55] <Zequi1> nice :D
[12:12:57] <Zequi1> thx men
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[12:13:30] * Katana_Steel shakes his head; ( only at glibc/string)
[12:13:42] <Zequi1> :P
[12:13:46] * Katana_Steel is going to lunch
[12:13:46] <Zequi1> now login jiji
[12:13:59] <Katana_Steel> the same thing
[12:15:02] <Katana_Steel> the maildirmake is needed to create the directory you've specified as the maildir
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[12:18:55] <Zequi1> mm try send me mail and no delivery in queue
[12:20:17] <vice-versa> and the logs say?
[12:20:24] <Zequi1> m
[12:21:48] <Zequi1> nothing
[12:21:57] <Zequi1> only stay in queue
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[12:23:41] <vice-versa> there would have to be something relevant in the logs
[12:25:46] <Katana_Steel[A]> is it okay to delete file(mails) in <maildir>/new, <maildir>/cur .. manually from the shell?
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[12:30:56] <Katana_Steel> if so, it will be a very big plus when going to maildir from mbox mails :D
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[12:50:03] <Zequi1> Katana_Steel stay in queue
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[12:50:58] <sysmonk> welcome pmc
[12:52:26] <Zequi1> Jun 20 12:47:23 ticomail amavis[2222]: (02222-03) Passed CLEAN, LOCAL [192.168.1.3] [192.168.1.3] <admin at iesthosicodina dot cat> -> <admin at iesthosicodina dot cat>, M$
[12:52:26] <Zequi1> Jun 20 12:47:23 ticomail amavis[2222]: (02222-03) (!!) TROUBLE in process_request: Error writing a SMTP response to the socket: Broken pipe at (eval 41) line$
[12:52:26] <Zequi1> Jun 20 12:47:23 ticomail amavis[2222]: (02222-03) (!) Requesting process rundown after fatal error
[12:52:36] <vice-versa> !pastebin
[12:52:37] <knoba> vice-versa: "pastebin" : a way to paste larger amounts of text so that other people can read it. Try http://www.rafb.net/paste/ or http://paste.debian.net/ - Do not forget to tell us the URL where you pasted it.
[12:53:02] <sysmonk> !getthehelloutofhereifyoudontknowwheretopastethestuff
[12:53:03] <knoba> sysmonk: Error: "getthehelloutofhereifyoudontknowwheretopastethestuff" is not a valid command.
[12:53:05] <sysmonk> damn it
[12:53:05] <sysmonk> ;/
[12:53:23] <dragonheart> shouldbe
[12:53:30] <Zequi1> http://paste.debian.net/6971/
[12:53:35] <Zequi1> :D
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[12:55:34] <sysmonk> Zequi1: does the error contain 'postfix' word somewhere?
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[12:56:32] <Zequi1> try send other mail and http://paste.debian.net/6972/
[12:57:05] <DASPRiD> hi there, i have a problem sending mails from my dedicated server. To some hosts like GMX, mail go out fine, but to some others i get Relay Access Denied
[12:57:13] <DASPRiD> which information would you need to help me?
[12:58:25] <Zequi1> DASPRiD for example logs in paste.debian.net
[12:58:26] <Zequi1> Xd
[12:58:53] <DASPRiD> no bad idea :x
[12:59:22] <sysmonk> Zequi1: does any of the errors have postfix word inside?
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[13:00:28] <Katana_Steel> hmm... dragonheart glibc doesn't generate libnss_db.so :( however I found that nss controls the order in which to load/read the system files, and I moved db from the front to the back on those entries in /etc/nsswitch.conf that had it
[13:00:33] <DASPRiD> Zequi1, http://paste.debian.net/6974/
[13:01:08] <Zequi1> sysmonk check paste http://paste.debian.net/6972/
[13:01:13] <Zequi1> only this error
[13:01:24] <sysmonk> Zequi1: in THIS paste there's NO error
[13:01:37] <Zequi1> send mail to external server gmail.com and send ok recive ok
[13:01:46] <Zequi1> am sysmonk sorry one second
[13:02:44] <maxim102> can anyone help me with configuring postfix?
[13:03:43] <vice-versa> !ask
[13:03:43] <knoba> vice-versa: "ask" : If you have a question, just ask. Precise questions lead to precise answers. Vague descriptions of your problem will get you nowhere. See also: http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc
[13:04:26] <maxim102> well, i cant figure out how to receive mail with postfix
[13:04:37] <maxim102> i have installed postfix, dovecot, tasl
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[13:05:35] <Zequi> sorry connection loss
[13:06:00] <maxim102> send an email with outlook for expample works
[13:06:13] <maxim102> but i just cant figure out how to receive mail
[13:06:37] <Zequi> sysmonk http://paste.debian.net/6975/
[13:06:42] <Zequi> this is main.log
[13:06:49] <Zequi> and directly queue
[13:07:05] <Zequi> other error
[13:07:06] <Zequi> Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=mail.iesthosicodina.cat type=MX: Host not found,
[13:07:06] <Zequi> try again
[13:07:38] <Zequi> this in local server
[13:07:55] <sysmonk> i do not see any error
[13:08:13] <sysmonk> in your logs in pastebin there's no postfix error
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[13:08:25] <sysmonk> i don't read what you paste into the channel, and if you'll do that again i'll ignore you
[13:09:07] <Zequi> sorry
[13:09:36] <Zequi> http://paste.debian.net/6976/
[13:09:51] <vice-versa> maxim102: do you mean retrieve, as in mail was accepted by your postfix server and delivered to a mailbox?
[13:14:39] <Zequi> sysmonk any idea my postfix send to queue?
[13:14:45] <sysmonk> Zequi: that's not a line from your log. i need FULL log line
[13:16:29] <Zequi> in mail.log?
[13:16:57] <sysmonk> nevermind
[13:17:06] <sysmonk> vice-versa: take him over, i can't talk with people like him
[13:17:21] <sysmonk> or else i'll buy a gun and shoot everyone joining this channel
[13:17:22] <sysmonk> ;P
[13:17:41] <sysmonk> he pastebins a log for the 4-time and can't pastebin it 'the right way'
[13:18:02] * Katana_Steel cries out in joy
[13:18:04] <Zequi> sorry i am nob in this...
[13:18:08] <Katana_Steel> \o/
[13:18:17] <sysmonk> he can't even spell noob :(
[13:18:17] <Zequi> and my english is bad
[13:18:32] <Zequi> vete a la mierda hombre
[13:18:56] <sysmonk> did he tell that i'm an asshole?
[13:18:57] <sysmonk> ;P
[13:20:16] <Zequi> no
[13:21:05] <Katana_Steel> dragonheart: I moved the db's in nsswitch.conf to the back of their list (using plain files instead of db4 files) and corrected an error in one of my cf files
[13:21:11] <dragonheart> so how would you say that Zequi?
[13:21:28] <dragonheart> Katana_Steel: good one:-)
[13:21:52] <Katana_Steel> so now I'm up and running, now it's time for mail filter :-)
[13:23:11] * Katana_Steel is asshamed of missing an sql field error
[13:23:38] <Zequi> dragonheart wrong windows chat in msn when friend :D
[13:23:45] <dragonheart> Vete a la mierda---Go to hell (according to google) - close sysmonk
[13:23:47] <dragonheart> sure
[13:24:12] <dragonheart> must be a close friend
[13:24:17] <Zequi> yes
[13:24:18] <Zequi> XDDD
[13:25:27] <dragonheart> Katana_Steel: nm - i spent 30min with a permission denied message because a server name was spelt wrong yesterday
[13:26:20] <Katana_Steel> dragonheart: heh - can happen
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[13:28:34] <Zequi> sorry for my wrong windows :S dragonheart
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[13:29:01] <vice-versa> yeah real close sysmonk, pretty sure mierda = excrement
[13:29:23] <Zequi> vice-versa that not for sysmonk is for my friend in msn
[13:29:36] <vice-versa> yeah right
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[13:29:52] <Katana_Steel> you call your friends asshole?
[13:29:57] <Zequi> yes
[13:30:00] <Zequi> and manco
[13:30:02] <Zequi> gay
[13:30:02] <Zequi> xd
[13:30:29] <Katana_Steel> I'd only call my fiends that
[13:30:51] <Katana_Steel> if I have to
[13:31:08] <Zequi> mm in spain is normal speak that to friends
[13:31:09] <dragonheart> i only call my boyfriend that :-p
[13:31:13] <Zequi> lol
[13:31:58] <vice-versa> when in Roam ;)
[13:32:50] <Katana_Steel> Zequi: I must have missed that in spanish class (though I only partly attended)
[13:34:16] <Zequi> xd
[13:34:49] <Zequi> in spain is normal speak in joked(broma) all time
[13:34:57] <Zequi> sorry english xD
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[13:49:44] <Katana_Steel> dragonheart: which component, does I file the bug glibc-2.6.1 under, Hardened or Library? (I use a Hardened profile...)?
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[13:58:53] <dragonheart> Katana_Steel: pick one - i'm not 100% sure its a glibc bug though. i may look after you lodge it
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[14:03:31] <Katana_Steel> logged: Bug #228519, I chose Hardened, for that same reason
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[14:09:06] <Katana_Steel> oh, and thanks for everything
[14:10:00] <Katana_Steel> however little you've provided helped alot  ^ ^
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[14:16:39] <devurandom> Hi!
[14:18:24] <f3ew> lo
[14:19:14] <devurandom> Where can I find info on how to setup "noreply" addresses? I want to setup an address from which I can send email, but which gets rejected as "unknown recipient" (or similar) in case someone tries to send a mail there.
[14:20:20] <f3ew> use a check_client_access
[14:20:41] <f3ew> err, check_recipient_access
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[14:22:42] <zoldar> hello, I'm trying to route mail destined to emails with certain base dn (.com, .org etc..) through second instance of sendmail. So far I managed to do it with entries in mailertable like ".com esmtp_special:[127.0.0.1]". However there's problem with local domains which I don't want to be routed that way - just delivered locally. Even though they are listed in local-host-names, they are still routed along mailertable entries. Any way to prevent it ?
[14:23:23] <f3ew> Perhaps #sendmail will help better?
[14:24:34] <devurandom> Is sleep 5 in smtpd_client_restrictions too much? Or what are known good values to keep spammers off?
[14:24:48] <zoldar> i've tried my luck there, but there's hardly anybody online :(
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[14:33:26] <sysmonk> sendmail ftw
[14:33:35] <sysmonk> /rename #postfix #sendmail
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[14:36:35] <chrisq> yawn
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[14:37:29] <chrisq> the people are getting religious over sendmail must be a lacking in basic unix history
[14:40:23] * sysmonk hates sendmail
[14:40:23] <sysmonk> ;)
[14:40:26] <robtone_> some people misinterpret irony with ironing
[14:40:27] <Katana_Steel> no app is holier than any other, some are just easier to use for some people, imho
[14:40:57] <sysmonk> robtone_: aren't those the same? :)
[14:41:06] <robtone_> :-)
[14:41:27] <sysmonk> Katana_Steel: so you say if i write my own "smtp server" ( cough, yeah, right ) which really sucks
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[14:41:42] <sysmonk> then it will be holier to somebody than any other smtp server app?
[14:42:16] <law> Hello. How do I limit the amount of simultaneous outgoing smtp connections to one server?
[14:42:16] <robtone_> sysmonk, if you are hubbard, yes
[14:42:17] <Katana_Steel> it meight... I just wont be the judge of it
[14:43:21] <sysmonk> Katana_Steel: oh sure, yeah, it will be a holy thing for a book "don't do it at home"
[14:43:26] <sysmonk> a great example
[14:43:26] <sysmonk> ;)
[14:43:36] <Katana_Steel> heh
[14:43:39] <sysmonk> anyway, i disagree with you about the choice of applications
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[14:43:45] <sysmonk> some applications ARE better than other
[14:43:53] <sysmonk> not 'easier to use' but actually are better
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[14:44:31] <robtone_> vim is definately better than notepad.exe
[14:44:43] <Katana_Steel> I agree but there will allway be somebody who testify otherwise
[14:44:52] * Katana_Steel looks to M$
[14:45:08] <ullio> after some time my mails get refused like ...delivery temporarily suspended: connect to mail.ccccc.de[/var/run/dspam.sock]: Connection refused... i cant see whats the trouble
[14:45:23] <ullio> dspam daemon seems to die at some point
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[14:46:15] <Katana_Steel> * s/allway/allways s/who/who'd
[14:46:52] <ullio> no error message, not idea why.
[14:47:54] <robtone_> ullio, you might ask in #dspam
[14:48:25] <ullio> good idea. maybe someone is around this time
[14:48:58] <devurandom> f3ew: Thanks, that works. :)
[14:50:11] <devurandom> Have now a check_reciepent_access at the end of my smtpd_recipient_restrictions where I list noreply addresses as reject.
[14:50:56] <robtone_> ullio, it appears that dspam is going commercial
[14:51:11] <robtone_> ullio, at least you can get paid support
[14:54:22] <Katana_Steel> well I'll be off. With my server in suspended animation there isn't much to be done till monday :)
[14:55:00] <Katana_Steel> that's another nice thing about a virtual server.
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[14:58:17] <davertron> hello!
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[14:59:43] <th0br0> hey, i just deleted my postfix logs by hand and had hoped that postfix would start to write to them again but it doesn't ... even tried restarting postfix but that doesn't help either. has any1 of u got an idea?
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[15:02:34] <lennard> postfix logs to the syslogger - therefor you will probably just have to restart the syslogger
[15:03:38] <davertron> hey, i'm running a RHEL server with postfix and dovecot.  I didn't set this up and I'm kind of new at all of this, but I'm experiencing really strange behavior when trying to setup an IMAP account through Thunderbird.  When I initially setup the account, i downloaded all of the messages in the inbox, but then after i restarted thunderbird the inbox doesn't list any e-mail in the inbox anymore.  If I try another MUA like Evolution or Apple Mail
[15:03:38] <davertron> , it says I have new mail in the inbox but doesn't list any mail there.  If I look at the server, in my home directory i have a /mail folder.  In there, I have a maildir-style "INBOX" dir with cur, new, tmp dirs.  However, all of my "folders" that i set up look like they are mbox format.  If I send myself a test e-mail, it goes to /var/spool/mail, but never gets to my INBOX.  Any ideas (sorry for the book...)
[15:05:02] <davertron> I should also mention that I'm using procmail to filter mail into folders on the server, however it doesn't seem to be moving mail out of /var/spool/mail (i checked the log)
[15:10:35] <davertron> here's my postconf -n output
[15:10:37] <davertron> http://pastebin.com/m281d19d0
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[15:28:26] <TameLion> Question: Once my SSL certs are set up for mod_ssl should I use the same certificate for postfix or should I generate a separate one?
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[15:35:35] <simmerz> if i use virtual transports for available domains, how can i instead forward mail for particular domains to a different smtp server?
[15:43:47] <Dominian> !transport
[15:43:47] <knoba> Dominian: "transport" : transport(5) The optional transport(5) table specifies a mapping from email addresses to message delivery transports and next- hop destinations. Look at: http://www.postfix.org/transport.5.html
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[15:44:51] <simmerz> Dominian: i've solved the issue, but can't find information on one thing. I've already got a virtual config that uses mysql to determine things, but if i use relay_domains, does that override things in virtual*?
[15:45:11] <Zequi> question when install postfixadmin in setup check say this error
[15:45:24] <Zequi> Invalid query: CREATE command denied to user 'mail_admin'@'localhost' for table 'config
[15:48:55] <Dominian> simmerz: I believe so, but I'm not 100% sure.
[15:49:14] <simmerz> Dominian: ok, ta
[15:49:16] <Dominian> Zequi: Your mail_admin user doesn't have the proper permissions for the database.
[15:52:30] <Zequi> ok
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[16:04:25] <SpooForBrains> Hi all. I'm trying to get postfix to relay from the local network
[16:04:43] <simmerz> virtual_transport says "This information can be overruled with the transport(5) table". does that mean that I use virtual_transport = hash:/file or do i use a different configuration parameter?
[16:05:03] <SpooForBrains> I have set mynetworks=192.168.0.0/24 (which if I'm correct should cover the entire 192.168.0.x subnet) and restarted postfix, but I still get "relaying not allowed"
[16:05:17] <TameLion> Hi all.. once my SSL certs are set up for apache should I use the same certificate for postfix or should I generate a separate one?
[16:05:24] <simmerz> SpooForBrains: and your restrictions?
[16:06:41] <SpooForBrains> smtp_client_restrictions= smtpd_sender_restrictions = hash:/etc/postfix/access (which is empty)
[16:07:10] <simmerz> SpooForBrains: you need to including permit_mynetworks
[16:07:17] <SpooForBrains> in which ?
[16:07:24] <simmerz> smtp_client_restrictions
[16:07:27] <SpooForBrains> thanks
[16:07:33] <simmerz> actually, probably smtpd_client_restrictions
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[16:08:07] <simmerz> I tend to use smtpd_sender_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, reject for stuff like that
[16:09:04] <SpooForBrains> let me pastebin my config file, because I've just added that and it's STILL not working
[16:09:44] <protonchris> Can anyone give me pointers on how to rewrite a single from address?  justin at x dot com -> justin at y dot com
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[16:14:31] <SpooForBrains> http://pastebin.ca/1051927
[16:15:45] <SpooForBrains> re: relay problem as previously discussed :)
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[16:18:42] <simmerz> I have http://rafb.net/p/es599C40.html at the moment. virtual_mailbox_domains contains "domain.tld" and "otherdomain.tld". How would I keep the configs like they are and bypass them so I can relay mail for "domain.tld" to a different server? relay_domains and relay_transport doesn't seem to have any effect
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[16:34:39] <simmerz> SpooForBrains: smtpd_sender_restrictions is invalid. you need to use something like: smtpd_sender_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, check_sender_access hash:/file
[16:34:52] <simmerz> anyone able to help on my above query?
[16:36:02] <SpooForBrains> simmerz: that's the standard suse config
[16:36:22] <simmerz> SpooForBrains: you need to add permit_mynetworks into the sender_restrictions though
[16:36:32] <SpooForBrains> OK, I'll try that
[16:36:41] <simmerz> and adding check_sender_access will make things a little clearer
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[16:41:37] <SpooForBrains> what does that do?
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[16:55:30] <simmerz> SpooForBrains: it's to block/allow particular senders
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[16:58:55] <Verilium> Is anyone here running multiple instances of postfix on the same host?  Anything in particular to keep in mind?  Except some of the 'obvious' things, such as queue location and various paths?
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[17:06:13] <redduck666> Verilium: stupid question, why would you want to do that?
[17:10:12] <sysmonk> Verilium: ports ?
[17:10:13] <sysmonk> ;)
[17:10:34] <sysmonk> ports and ip's, paths/locations, that's all i know
[17:10:56] <sysmonk> but i don't run multiple postfixes on the same machine
[17:11:03] <sysmonk> atleast the same virtual machine :)
[17:13:30] <Verilium> sysmonk:  Heh, yes, ports and IP addresses are a given.  :)
[17:13:58] <Verilium> redduck666:  Well, management wants something 'similar' to what we currently have, with sendmail, which is different queues, which have different processing priorities.
[17:14:36] <f3ew> Verilium, Installation process, configuration directories, lots of postfix -c and postconf -c stuff
[17:14:42] <Verilium> Which, I suppose, kind of makes sense, from that 'need' standpoint..
[17:14:48] <Verilium> f3ew:  <nod>
[17:14:56] <f3ew> IIRC, it's documented
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[17:15:04] <Verilium> I saw postfix -c was explicitely for that, yeah.
[17:17:07] <Verilium> sysmonk:  Yeah, doing multiple VMs with each having it's own instance is another solution, but we thought we might try it this way, create less 'overhead' in management and ressources.
[17:17:49] <sysmonk> less overhead in managment?
[17:17:58] <sysmonk> you think that's "less"? :)
[17:18:15] <sysmonk> imho, having THAT setup is worse than having 3 jails
[17:18:21] <sysmonk> (as in freebsd jails)
[17:18:40] <sysmonk> cause the updating and managing of it really sucks
[17:18:53] <sysmonk> atleast for me
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[17:19:39] <TheN00b> Hello folks
[17:19:59] <TheN00b> how do I configure my postfix to send mail via a relay host
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[17:20:18] <jacques> !help relay_domains
[17:20:19] <knoba> jacques: Error: There is no command "relaydomains".
[17:20:31] <TheN00b> !help relaydomains
[17:20:32] <knoba> TheN00b: Error: There is no command "relaydomains".
[17:20:36] <jacques> oops, wrong action
[17:20:40] <TheN00b> lol
[17:20:51] <TheN00b> relayhost= mail smtp server
[17:20:52] <jacques> trying something else to be sure :
[17:21:00] <jacques> !help soft_bounce
[17:21:00] <knoba> jacques: Error: There is no command "softbounce".
[17:21:02] <TheN00b> I found this in postfix main.cf
[17:21:08] <jacques> ok, nevermind
[17:21:10] <jacques> bye
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[17:21:25] <TheN00b> hello
[17:21:38] <f3ew> ugh
[17:21:40] <sysmonk> :))
[17:21:45] <f3ew> !relay_domains
[17:21:46] <knoba> f3ew: "relay_domains" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: What destination domains (and subdomains thereof) this system will relay mail to. Subdomain matching is controlled with the parent_domain_matches_subdomains parameter.
[17:21:48] <f3ew> :P
[17:22:19] <TheN00b> how do I configure it ?
[17:22:31] <TheN00b> I found relayhost = blah in my main.cf
[17:22:48] <TheN00b> But when I put the relyhost smtp it doesn't work
[17:22:58] <f3ew> !relayhost
[17:22:58] <knoba> f3ew: "relayhost" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The default host to send non-local mail to when no entry is matched in the optional transport(5) table. When no relayhost is given, mail is routed directly to the destination.
[17:23:50] <Verilium> sysmonk:  Heheh, well, management, as in, one less VM to manage, but yes, in a certain way, it definitely brings more 'uniqueness' to the whole thing.
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[17:28:38] <sysmonk> Verilium: managing a zoo is worse than managing a few vm's
[17:28:45] * Verilium nods.
[17:28:53] <sysmonk> that's atleast my opinion
[17:28:55] <Verilium> Can't disagree on that one.
[17:29:11] <Verilium> Yeah.  I'll pass on the comment to the person taking care of the project..
[17:31:07] <Verilium> Thanks for the input.
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[18:05:46] <jeev> what do you guys think? http://spamikaze.org/
[18:06:01] <sysmonk> spam
[18:06:02] <sysmonk> ;)
[18:06:06] <jeev> no you dork
[18:06:24] <jeev> i want to build a spamtrap
[18:06:24] <sysmonk> oh i'm a dork?
[18:06:30] <jeev> yes dork
[18:06:32] <sysmonk> what's your ip again?
[18:06:38] <jeev> 1.2.3.4
[18:06:39] <jeev> own me!
[18:06:53] <sysmonk> nah, i'd rbl you :P
[18:07:05] <jeev> lol
[18:07:06] <jeev> bastard.
[18:07:09] <jeev> that's fucked uppppppppp
[18:07:28] <sysmonk> k back to watching teh movie
[18:07:41] <jeev> what movie
[18:07:44] <jeev> i saw zohan yesterday
[18:07:59] <jeev> stupid israeli movie heh but it was funny
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[18:09:55] <MrPunkin> I have a question for you guys. If I'm sending a mass email (to subscribed people, don't worry) and want each user to only see their own address, not a list of addresses in the To field, do I need to send individual emails or can batches be sent via a single mail that have unique to addresses?
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[18:10:24] <MrPunkin> The reason I ask is to figure out our volume, say I send one email to 10,000 members, do I need to send it 10,000 times or is there a way to send it as one email?
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[18:12:49] <sysmonk> MrPunkin: yup
[18:13:12] <jeev> can't you do a bcc
[18:13:14] <MrPunkin> yup to which part of my multi-question there? haha, realized I didn't ask a concise question.
[18:13:23] <MrPunkin> bccs are known to hit spam boxes many times, so not really
[18:13:29] <sysmonk> jeev: no, then recipients won't see themselved in To
[18:13:33] <jeev> oh
[18:13:44] <jeev> so one by one it is
[18:14:00] <sysmonk> only one by one is possible to make each recipient see only himself
[18:14:09] <MrPunkin> Okay, so a mass mailing to our subscribers is indeed counted as all our subscribers even if we send it to postfix in batches within the SMTP connection.
[18:14:39] <sysmonk> k i'm really afk now ;P
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[18:17:11] <jeev> heh MrPunkin, duno man i'v never spammed before :D even legit spsam
[18:17:12] <jeev> spam
[18:17:16] <jonkristian> Are there any advantages relaying mail through my own server, than through the isp's?
[18:17:22] <MrPunkin> yeah, I know, its kind of frustratingly hard
[18:17:39] <MrPunkin> these are like "daily tops" emails people subscribe to for our photo site, so its stuff they really want, but its like 10k a day
[18:17:41] <jeev> jonkristian, i dunno, you could monitor it? hehe
[18:18:52] <jonkristian> jeev: Only thing i can think of, is maybe it's possible when using imap and maildir's that sendt mail from a local client can wind up in the sendt mail folder on the server, which sounds very nice in my head
[18:19:33] <jonkristian> especially good for users on the run
[18:20:14] <jeev> huhhhhh
[18:20:16] <jeev> i didn't get it
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[18:22:14] <jonkristian> jeev: im talking about if you send mail from thunderbird, to have it wind up in the sendt mail on the server aswell
[18:23:03] <MrPunkin> jonkristian: IMAP does that anyways if you map the folders correctly
[18:23:11] <jonkristian> MrPunkin: really?
[18:23:13] <MrPunkin> both Thunderbird and Apple mail allow you to map folders this way
[18:23:15] <MrPunkin> yes
[18:23:30] <jeev> oh i thoguht it was punkin saying what you said
[18:23:42] <jeev> man i haven't mapped my folders yet on the server
[18:23:42] <jeev> ba
[18:23:56] <jonkristian> Hmm, they look correct, only one thing's different and that's the trash, it adds another trash
[18:24:18] <jonkristian> MrPunkin: great news then:)
[18:24:31] <MrPunkin> you can maybe try highlighting their new trash folder and seeing if thers an option for "use this folder for trash" and it will map it back to Thunderbirds trash
[18:24:41] <MrPunkin> I havent done it in Thunderbird for a while, but have it all done that way in Apple Mail
[18:25:01] <jonkristian> MrPunkin: so this has to be mapped by hand, or should it do it automaticly?
[18:25:38] <MrPunkin> Usually by hand, and its all client side, not server side, so just in Thunderbird
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[18:25:57] <MrPunkin> for example, with GMail IMAP....
[18:25:57] <MrPunkin> http://www.google.com/search?q=thunderbird%20mapping%20imap%20folders
[18:27:55] <jonkristian> my maildir looks like this, http://rafb.net/p/7IKl3a64.html
[18:28:29] <jonkristian> one thing though, is it normal that the client adds a new trash, or is that something wrong with my setup perhaps?
[18:28:46] <jonkristian> thanks for the link too
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[19:02:49] <dbruns> is there a way to manually resend an email that was bounced?
[19:06:06] <jeev> hmm
[19:06:08] <jeev> man postqueue
[19:06:54] <dbruns> TY
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[19:08:16] <cpm> if the mail bounced, it bounced. THere isn't anything to 'resend'
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[19:10:02] <sysmonk> cpm: only the bounce :P
[19:10:14] * cpm bounces Sysctl
[19:10:16] <cpm> doh!
[19:10:17] <cpm> sorry.
[19:10:21] <cpm> Danged tab-complete
[19:10:25] <sysmonk> dah, fail!
[19:10:25] <sysmonk> ;)
[19:10:32] <cpm> indeed
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[19:12:21] <jeev> sysmonk, go away!
[19:12:29] <jeev> oh, bounced
[19:12:32] <jeev> thought he meant queued
[19:12:35] <jeev> LOL and he left
[19:12:48] <jeev> if a mail bounces in a forest, does anyone hear it?
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[19:14:13] <cpm> yeah, the postmaster. damn his eyes
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[19:16:07] <jeev> heh
[19:16:15] <jeev> i wonder if i should set up a dnsbl spamtrap on my server
[19:16:55] <jeev> but i just did check_recipient_access hash:/usr/local/etc/postfix/spamtrap
[19:17:01] <jeev> with DISCARD's
[19:17:17] <jeev> i read that if you have like a fake address in there, it'll discard all the other recipients
[19:19:08] <jeev> heh, it didn't work
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[19:19:34] <jeev> http://www.arschkrebs.de/postfix/postfix_spamtrap.shtml
[19:19:36] <jeev> am i doing something wrong ?
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[19:40:12] <[Chaos|Krieger]> mh, german?
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[19:55:07] <babo> guys, I've got a mail issue. I've set up postfix on my server to redirect mail to my gmail account using mail forwarding in virtual. the problem is though, that the email address that get sent seem to end up with a Reply-To to an old email that doesn't work any longer ...
[19:55:23] <babo> i can't image where it gets that old email address ...
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[20:32:49] * cpm claps his hands, listens for the echo
[20:33:18] <jeev> damn
[20:33:22] * will_ claps
[20:33:24] <jeev> that link i gave is useless
[20:33:28] <jeev> http://www.arschkrebs.de/postfix/postfix_spamtrap.shtml
[20:33:33] <jeev> it only works with multiple emails using 1 connection
[20:33:49] <jeev> if i send from gmail to the discarded address, to: a at a dot com and b at a dot com, it does 2 separate connections
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[20:52:50] <jaldhar> Ok I'm attacking this virtual alias domain problem again.  The status now is lists.a.com works with mailman but a.com still does not with /etc/postfix/virtual!
[20:53:32] <jaldhar> the symptom is 'user not found in virtual alias table'
[20:54:01] <jaldhar> but postmap -q someone virtual does give the right answer
[20:55:16] <jaldhar> so now I'm wondering, what should the right-hand side of a virtual alias domain in /etc/postfix/virtual look like?
[20:55:31] <jaldhar> I have:
[20:55:43] <jaldhar> a.com       something
[20:55:55] <jaldhar> root at a dot com     root
[20:56:13] <jaldhar> webmaster at a dot com   jaldhar
[20:56:17] <jaldhar> etc.
[20:56:34] <jaldhar> that's ok isn't it?
[20:58:22] <will_> Man, a.com gets a ton of traffic. I wonder if they get as much mail as yahoo.com
[20:59:20] <jeev> lol
[21:00:06] <jaldhar> a.com is the most elite domain after darkstar.frop.org
[21:00:43] <jeev> do you guys have soft bounce enabled?
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[21:03:17] <will_> a.com doesn't even have an mx
[21:06:44] <jaldhar> anyway is it true that the right side of a virtual alias domain can be any value?
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[21:07:52] <jeev> right isde?
[21:07:53] <jeev> huh
[21:08:46] <jaldhar> jeev: the right side of the line in /etc/postfix/virtual
[21:09:21] <jaldhar> I literally have the word 'something' as in my example above
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[21:17:12] <adaptr> jaldhar: something, in this case, is a local mailbox, as it's unqualified
[21:17:26] <adaptr> not the most obvious of choices
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[21:18:39] <jaldhar> adaptr: I tried other things before like a comment.  So what should it be?  Or just blank?
[21:18:59] <adaptr> !virtual_alias_domains
[21:18:59] <knoba> adaptr: "virtual_alias_domains" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional list of names of virtual alias domains, that is, domains for which all addresses are aliased to addresses in other local or remote domains.
[21:19:06] <adaptr> *LIST OF NAMES*
[21:19:10] <adaptr> NOT a MAP
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[21:25:24] <jaldhar> adaptr: I know about virtual_alias_domains in main.cf but I was led to believe they could be specified in virtual too.  Is that no longer the case (postfix 2.3.8)
[21:25:38] <adaptr> you were misled
[21:25:45] <adaptr> "virtual" is a *map file*
[21:25:51] <adaptr> and not anything definite
[21:26:01] <adaptr> you can call it woody if you like
[21:26:07] <adaptr> it doesn't *mean* anything
[21:26:23] <adaptr> step one: list virtual alias *domains* in .. virtual_alias_domains
[21:26:49] <adaptr> step two: alias and/or route your virtual addresses through a map pointed to by virtual_alias_maps
[21:26:56] <adaptr> they are separate and co-dependent
[21:27:06] <adaptr> and they have nothing whatsoever to do with one another
[21:27:43] <adaptr> I suppose you try to steer the road as well, because cars drive on roads, so they must be equal
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[21:29:51] <jaldhar> adaptr: ok.  I'm going to try this.  Death to obsolete documentation!
[21:30:06] <jmazaredo_> can anyone help me checking my server's tls conection my email is jeff at agilys dot com.ph
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[21:40:44] <jaldhar> adaptr: also should I change to relay_domains = $mydestination, $virtual_alias_domains or will it be ok as is?
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[21:41:45] <adaptr> why would you want to relay to your domains ?
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[21:44:22] <jaldhar> adaptr: never mind.  postconf | grep virtual_alias_domains shows e.g. a.com but I am still getting <webmaster at a dot com>: User unknown in virtual alias table
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[21:44:34] <adaptr> of course
[21:44:47] <jaldhar> adaptr: do tell?
[21:44:51] <adaptr> you have to MAKE that alias, or the user does not exist
[21:45:03] <adaptr> v_a_domains in itself does absolutely nothing
[21:45:16] <jaldhar> but I did.  In /etc/postfix/virtual I have:
[21:45:18] <adaptr> merely informs postfix that any addresses in those domains are local virtual users
[21:45:28] <jaldhar> webmaster at a dot com        jaldhar
[21:45:33] <adaptr> postconf virtual_alias_maps
[21:45:39] <jaldhar> jaldhar is a local unix user
[21:46:09] <jaldhar> virtual_alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/virtual
[21:47:33] <adaptr> did you hash it ?
[21:48:02] <jaldhar> yes I did.  postmap hash:/etc/postfix/virtual
[21:48:24] <adaptr> and a.com is NOT in mydestination, NOT in relay_domains, and ONLY in v_a_domains ?
[21:49:06] <jaldhar> i think so but let me check again...
[21:51:05] <jaldhar> yep only in virtual_alias_domains
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[21:53:37] <jaldhar> The only other thing about my setup is that lists.a.com is handled by mailman via a special transport.  This part is actually working as it should.
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[22:24:00] <maordeb> Hi, anyone know why when restarting postfix, it check permission or something on all my box and buggin: "postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by postfix: ...." i guess postfix should have permissions only /var/spool/postfix.. why it mess with all the box?
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[22:39:21] <rob0> Postfix maintains proper permissions and ownership. If yours are broken, you did something wrong, but it's easy to fix: see "man postfix".
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[22:56:20] <jeev> all legit mailservers and mail clients
[22:56:24] <jeev> helo an actual domain, right ?
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[23:02:31] <jaldhar> Trying a different approach.  Is $virtual_alias_maps supposed to be in local_recipient_maps?
[23:09:25] <rob0> jaldhar, absolutely not. The lookup key format is different.
[23:09:32] <rob0> !address_classes
[23:09:32] <knoba> rob0: "address_classes" : http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_CLASS_README.html describes how Postfix deals with different classes of addresses: local, relay, virtual alias, virtual mailbox, and Internet.
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[23:11:12] <jaldhar> well there goes that idea.  Back to square 1 *sigh*
[23:11:14] <rob0> jeev, reject_unknown_helo_hostname is unsafe, because many sites (particularly MSexChange) use non-resolvable HELO/EHLO.
[23:12:20] <jeev> really
[23:12:40] <rob0> reject_invalid_helo_hostname and reject_non_fqdn_helo_hostname are quite safe and VERY effective, however.
[23:12:43] <jeev> oh i dont have that
[23:12:53] <jeev> yea, i have invalid and
[23:12:59] <jeev> non fqdn helo..
[23:13:12] <jeev> this is what i've gotz
[23:13:23] <rob0> The latter 2 will take out a good 20-25% of spam in many cases.
[23:13:44] <jeev> http://rafb.net/p/EwyWcv46.html
[23:13:55] <jeev> i dunno about the order may be wrong, at least for the spamtrap
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[23:16:54] <will_> does anyone know much about the reject_unverified_recipient rule/class in postfix?
[23:19:55] <rob0> If the spamtrap check is supposed to bypass RBL's, it won't.
[23:21:43] <rob0> I also recommend Zen rather than sbl-xbl; PBL makes a huge difference.
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[23:27:45] <rob0> BTW reject_unauth_pipelining does nothing in smtpd_recipient_restrictions, put it in smtpd_data_restrictions
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[23:29:35] <Dominian> rob0: I did some switch up with the spamhaus stuff
[23:29:41] <Dominian> Did I show you the latest line up of rbls?
[23:30:17] <rob0> don't recall, no
[23:30:32] <Dominian> http://pastebin.slackadelic.com/970
[23:30:55] <Dominian> that REALLY helped to get off of querying spamhaus like crazy
[23:31:01] <will_> does aynone know how reject_unverified_recipient does remote address verification, does it use the vrfy command, or does it do actual ehlo, mail from, and rcpt to commands to check
[23:31:19] <Dominian> I disable the vrfy command personally.. at least I think I didi
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[23:31:25] <rob0> !verify
[23:31:25] <knoba> rob0: "verify" : Sender or recipient address verification features: http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_VERIFICATION_README.html
[23:31:45] <rob0> also verify.8.html
[23:31:55] <rob0> which is linked from the readme
[23:32:28] <Dominian> yeah I disable the vrfy command
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[23:37:13] <sysmonk> Dominian: hm. 1. cbl.abuseat.org gives a possibility to mirror them for free
[23:37:32] <sysmonk> 2. xbl and sbl can be made into one - xbl-sbl.spamhaus.org
[23:37:38] <sysmonk> or was it sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org
[23:37:51] <sysmonk> anyway, it's somewhere in the faq so if you're interested you'll find it
[23:39:15] <Dominian> sysmonk: Yeah.. there was some reason I split xbl-sbl up..
[23:39:20] <Dominian> and I dont remember why
[23:39:28] <sysmonk> if you'll find out why - tell me
[23:39:48] <Dominian> I think it was how many times sbl was getting hit..
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[23:39:51] <Dominian> or oen or the other
[23:39:58] <Dominian> maybe there wasn't a reason
[23:40:03] <Dominian> and I wasn't paying attention.
[23:41:30] <sysmonk> Dominian: xbl-sbl is the same as having two seperate ones
[23:41:35] <Dominian> yeah
[23:41:36] <sysmonk> just it makes 2 queries
[23:41:39] <Dominian> yeah
[23:41:45] <sysmonk> that is, it makes one, and 2 seperate make 2
[23:41:46] <Dominian> I think I just goofed that one
[23:41:48] <Dominian> correcting now
[23:42:10] <sysmonk> maybe you're mixing it with zen
[23:42:19] <Dominian> no
[23:42:22] <Dominian> I don't have zen in there
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[23:42:26] <Dominian> I removed zen for some reason..
[23:42:35] <sysmonk> pbl..
[23:42:38] <Dominian> and for the life of me cna't remember why..
[23:42:50] <Dominian> that might've been it.. atually I think it was
[23:42:54] <Dominian> I need to add zen back in.. damn it
[23:43:08] <Dominian> I remember now..
[23:43:17] <Dominian> the vps Im on was on the PBL.. itw as causing all kinds of crap..
[23:43:27] <Dominian> Got it removed, and forgot to update the config
[23:44:53] <Dominian> tehre.. didn't need cbl
[23:45:02] <Dominian> zen.spamhaus.org does queries to cbl.abuseat.org.. duh..
[23:45:14] <sysmonk> it just includes the zone
[23:45:16] <Dominian> god I didh ave a reason for doing those that way.. I just for the life of me can not remember what it was..
[23:45:19] <sysmonk> as cbl zone is freely available
[23:45:22] <Dominian> yeah
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[23:46:13] <dschn> I'm trying to find a way to track bounces for an e-mail marketing app. The messages I send are made by me so I'll be constructing an identifiable from envelop. One way I know is to attach a script to parse them as a content filter to smtp service.. but any suggestions on easier ways?
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[23:50:26] <pickcoder> horray,  oconv(date(),"dw") == 5
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[23:52:28] <jeev> rob0, the spamtrap was.. i put something in postmap config, joe@...com, if anything is sent there and elsewhere, it discards it.. even the elsewhere if it's my address. one problem is that most servers will open a new connection for each TO address so it's useless
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