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[00:06:13] <rob0> tsh, I really don't know. Seems odd, that I can resolve the name and see the banner, yet nothing is showing in your logs.
[00:06:28] <tsh> thats what i dont understand
[00:06:36] <tsh> what should i change the banner to to make absolute sure
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[00:06:48] <tsh> would this be compliant: smtpd_banner = $myhostname
[00:06:58] <tsh> having the hostname in there should be compliant
[00:07:00] <tsh> ?
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[00:12:33] <rob0> Figure out WHY your syslogd isn't working, perhaps. Restart it?
[00:12:46] <TaiSHi> killall -9 ksyslogd
[00:13:00] <tsh> it is working
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[00:17:47] <tsh> rob0, can you send dusty at fuckthegov dot co.uk a test email a second ?
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[00:26:22] <lunaphyte> boy, that sounds like a domain begging for prison time.
[00:26:38] <TaiSHi> lunaphyte: indeed..
[00:26:43] <jeev> no such thing
[00:26:50] <mwalling> bullshit
[00:27:13] <mwalling> fuckthegov.$iran'stld will get you hung at sunrise
[00:27:16] <rob0> well ... I'm not a big fan of governments :)
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[00:43:15] <jeev> iran for life
[00:43:16] <jeev> i was born there!
[00:52:51] <rob0> tsh, test msg was queued
[00:52:55] <rob0> <== afk
[00:57:20] <lunaphyte> acrobatic fighting kangaroo?
[00:57:50] <TaiSHi> Absent Frog Killer
[00:59:51] <lunaphyte> hmm
[00:59:59] <lunaphyte> aromatic fish kabob
[01:00:29] <TaiSHi> Ala Fights Bollocs
[01:01:38] <lunaphyte> alcoholic friends of kerosene
[01:02:37] <TaiSHi> Damn, I ran out of ideas
[01:03:26] <lunaphyte> aha!  winner!
[01:03:29] <lunaphyte> :p
[01:03:31] <TaiSHi> Indeed you are
[01:03:46] <lunaphyte> well, for this brief, meaningless moment, anyway.
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[01:06:30] <TaiSHi> lunaphyte: you seem bored
[01:07:02] <lunaphyte> nah, just killing a few minutes before i run out.
[01:07:13] <TaiSHi> I got back from work not long ago
[01:07:18] <lunaphyte> er, so i guess that probably counts as bored, yeah.
[01:07:18] <TaiSHi> Helping out @ ovpn channel
[01:07:23] <TaiSHi> And falling asleep
[01:08:28] <jeev> i wonder if i could ship a package with the post office or UPS if it says Fedex on the box :)
[01:08:49] <TaiSHi> jeev: you can, but package's integrity wont be assured
[01:09:04] <jeev> lol
[01:09:10] <jeev> i dont care, warranty return to linksys
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[01:31:32] <jeev> Jun 17 16:30:44 earthquake postfix/smtpd[66493]: initializing the server-side TLS engine
[01:31:32] <jeev> Jun 17 16:30:44 earthquake postfix/smtpd[66493]: connect from newsletter03.newsletter.myspace.com[216.178.35.247]
[01:31:32] <jeev> Jun 17 16:30:45 earthquake postfix/smtpd[66493]: lost connection after EHLO from newsletter03.newsletter.myspace.com[216.178.35.247]
[01:31:32] <jeev> Jun 17 16:30:45 earthquake postfix/smtpd[66493]: disconnect from newsletter03.newsletter.myspace.com[216.178.35.247]
[01:31:34] <jeev> hmm ??
[01:31:36] <jeev> no email!
[01:31:38] <jeev> bastard just connected and left
[01:31:45] <jeev> i guess one of my friends isn't gettin their newsletter
[01:32:29] <jeev> ouch
[01:32:30] <jeev> required tls
[01:32:31] <jeev> loo
[01:32:31] <jeev> l
[01:33:05] <jeev> either way, i'm not working on this box till i get my other up
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[01:42:23] <jsoftw> How would I tell postfix not to log any connections from a certain ip?
[01:42:33] <jsoftw> ie, stop logging to syslog for that IP
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[01:56:52] <shasta> impossible, as far as I know
[01:57:11] <shasta> (and stupid, that's I'm sure of)
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[02:02:12] <jsoftw> shasta: it is _not_ stupid.
[02:02:21] <jsoftw> that you are wrong about.
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[02:04:41] <shasta> it is
[02:04:59] <shasta> if you don't want connections from that ip, just cut it off at firewall
[02:05:07] <shasta> otherwise you *do* want them to be logged
[02:06:13] <shasta> and you can't bring me round to that
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[02:32:23] <jeev> hahah
[02:32:29] <jeev> the guy at my datacenter is stuck in the elevator
[02:32:29] <jeev> nice
[02:34:56] <jeev> ish
[02:35:01] <jeev> i sold something on ebay 1 hour after listing it
[02:35:03] <jeev> wish i sold it for more $
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[02:35:53] <yann_> hi
[02:37:25] <jeev> what's up Yanni
[02:37:28] <jeev> love your music
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[02:40:02] <yann_> ? ;p
[02:50:59] <jeev> heh
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[02:52:47] <jsoftw> shasta: dude, you're wrong.
[02:52:59] <jsoftw> shasta: I _DO_ wnat connections from that machine.
[02:53:11] <jsoftw> shasta: I just dont want them _logged_
[02:53:33] <jeev> i see a valid point
[02:53:37] <jsoftw> shasta: nagios and relayd connect every second or two.
[02:53:38] <jeev> you just dont want it to flood the log
[02:53:52] <jsoftw> shasta: so, you are quite simply wrong
[02:54:14] <jsoftw> But anyway.
[03:01:19] <shasta> and then suddenly, something happens _between_ your nagios box and your postfix box, like a unfortunate iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 25 -j DROP rule. nagios reports service is down, and your postfix log doesn't show anything, because you disabled logging connections from nagios machine...
[03:01:38] <shasta> I told you, you can't bring me round to that
[03:02:22] <jeev> huh
[03:02:38] <shasta> of course you can replace good old syslog using some newer replacement, like syslog-ng, where you can specify patterns to ignore
[03:02:50] <shasta> don't count on help with that, though
[03:04:29] <jsoftw> shasta: luckly, I dont use iptables.
[03:04:54] <shasta> keyword: "like"
[03:04:56] <jsoftw> shasta: luckily, nagios will moan about such a thing, and I will be aware of it.
[03:05:25] <jsoftw> unfourtunately, you are just being a dickhead.
[03:05:30] <shasta> it'll only moan about not being able to connect to your postfix
[03:05:48] <shasta> you'll login to see if postfix's running, and - surprise - it is running
[03:05:48] <jsoftw> No kidding.
[03:06:00] <jsoftw> What do logs have to do with that anyway.
[03:06:03] <jsoftw> Really.
[03:06:06] <shasta> oh my
[03:06:13] <jsoftw> If it cant connect it cant connect, so its not going to log it regardless.
[03:06:32] <shasta> yes, you're the uberadmin. i must obey.
[03:06:33] <jsoftw> (in your iptables example)
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[03:07:42] <jsoftw> And you're a twat.
[03:07:49] <shasta> anyway: no, you can't disable logging at postfix level. kthxbai.
[03:08:28] <shasta> (like I care about your opinion :>)
[03:08:49] <jsoftw> Like I care much about yours, given your ignorance
[03:09:04] <shasta> *my* ignorance; LOL
[03:09:13] <jsoftw> Yes, your ignorance, lol.
[03:09:20] <shasta> you got your answer now, you can go. :)
[03:09:36] * jsoftw stays just because you suggested otherwise
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[03:10:45] <shasta> fine with me, UberAdmin. :>
[03:10:49] * shasta is so amused
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[03:22:25] <mwalling> shasta: yeah you twat, stfu
[03:22:52] <yann_> i have a litle question about postfix,  ive ot this error "postmap: warning: dict_ldap_lookup: Search error 8: Strong(er) authentication required" when i use " postmap -q yann ldap:myldap", in fact my ldap only accept sasl but when postfix querry for mailboxes in ldap (virtual_mailbox_map) i dont know how tell postfix to use sasl here? does someone have any idea ? ty ;p
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[03:27:13] <yann_> (i'm french dont blame me too much for my english :p)
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[03:29:49] <shasta> mwalling ;-)
[03:30:17] <shasta> sasl? don't you mean ssl? :)
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[03:32:59] <shasta> if you've got your ldap library with ssl support (like openldap libs compiled with openssl), you can use ldaps://blah.blah url
[03:33:09] <shasta> man 5 ldap_table
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[03:35:59] <yann_> it is sasl not ssl ;)
[03:36:23] <yann_> i want both in fact XD
[03:38:02] <yann_> and ive found nothing on the web (after long hours of search) neither in  the man of ldap_table XD
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[03:38:56] <yann_> anyway thx for your help ;p
[03:40:10] <yann_> will have to allow simple binds on my ldap server :s
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[04:18:04] <snadge> hi guys, i've just updgraded our company's mail server (transferred it to a new system suse 10.2, from 9.1)
[04:18:36] <snadge> everything seems to be working great, except smtp via SSL seems to no longer work
[04:20:57] <higuita> check the postfix logs, test with "openssl s_client -host localhost -port 25 -starttls smtp"
[04:21:27] <higuita> ignore the startls if you are using smtps (SSL3)
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[04:23:31] <snadge> im using smtps yeah and port 465 (or whatever it is)
[04:24:40] <snadge> Jun 18 03:24:23 monitor postfix/smtpd[23697]: sql_select option missing
[04:24:41] <snadge> Jun 18 03:24:23 monitor postfix/smtpd[23697]: auxpropfunc error no mechanism available
[04:24:50] <snadge> Jun 18 03:24:23 monitor postfix/smtpd[23697]: _sasl_plugin_load failed on sasl_auxprop_plug_init for plugin: sql
[04:24:59] <snadge> but im not using sql
[04:25:17] <snadge> i copied the configs accross from the existing server.. postfix version has changed
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[04:25:24] <jeev> find your smtpd.conf and see what it says *i'm assuming* i'm a noob
[04:28:19] <snadge> from 2.1.1 to 2.3.2
[04:29:14] <higuita> snadge: check you sasl config in the new server
[04:29:40] <snadge> sasl seems to be handled differently between suse 9.1 and 10.2 :/
[04:29:45] <higuita> seens its configured to use a sql...
[04:30:15] <snadge> i cant find a config on the old server.. the new one doesnt seem to mention sql (i dont even know if im looking at the right file)
[04:30:27] <higuita> try to compare with a good sasl howto, its probably simpler to follow and compare
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[05:21:55] <rcsheets> which manpage do i need to be reading to figure out how to send a copy of all mail to a certain address to some other address?
[05:22:42] <rcsheets> do i just need a sender_bcc_map?
[05:23:06] <pickcoder> rcsheets: try aliases?
[05:23:14] <pickcoder> sender_bcc_map is for from:
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[05:23:34] <rcsheets> er, d'oh
[05:23:57] <rcsheets> wouldn't an alias interfere with normal delivery for the address?
[05:24:09] <pickcoder> not if it's included in the alias
[05:24:27] <rcsheets> so if the account is foo at example dot com and i want copies sent to bar at example dot net
[05:24:42] <rcsheets> i could set up an alias called foo at example dot com and have it send to foo at example dot com and bar at example dot net?
[05:24:50] <pickcoder> foo: foo, bar
[05:25:03] <rcsheets> well bar is off on another MX
[05:25:12] <pickcoder> foo: foo, bar at anotherhost dot com
[05:25:16] <rcsheets> ok
[05:25:23] <rcsheets> i assumed that "foo: foo" would be problematic
[05:25:51] <pickcoder> never has been for me
[05:26:09] <rcsheets> cool, i'll try that. thanks.
[05:26:10] <pickcoder> I do mail copying for several local accounts
[05:26:21] <pickcoder> some go to all local and others are a mix of local/remote
[05:26:35] <shasta> !recipient_bcc_maps
[05:26:35] <knoba> shasta: "recipient_bcc_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional BCC (blind carbon-copy) address lookup tables, indexed by recipient address. The BCC address (multiple results are not supported) is added when mail enters from outside of Postfix.
[05:26:50] <rcsheets> oh, or that could work
[05:27:27] <pickcoder> multiple results are not supported?
[05:29:11] <rcsheets> apparently not
[05:29:21] <rcsheets> hmm, but this:
[05:29:25] <rcsheets> Note: if mail to the BCC address bounces it will be returned to the sender.
[05:29:43] <rcsheets> i'd like to avoid that. mail that can't be delivered to the additional address should not bounce
[05:30:00] <rcsheets> how would the alias behave in that situation?
[05:30:06] * pickcoder checks sender_bcc
[05:30:27] <pickcoder> well I guess I never had an instance where I needed more than one BCC
[05:30:35] <pickcoder> learned something new
[05:31:06] <pickcoder> rcsheets: I'm not 100% sure
[05:31:15] <pickcoder> I think the aliased bounces would goto postmaster
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[05:37:56] <pickcoder> nope.. it bounces back
[05:38:01] <rcsheets> drat
[05:38:13] <rcsheets> perhaps i need to think of another way to do this
[05:38:25] <rcsheets> maybe procmail...
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[06:11:12] <afallenhope> hey how can I configure postfix to work with PHP?
[06:11:27] <jeev> huh
[06:11:28] <jeev> for what
[06:11:46] <Zelest> define "work with PHP"
[06:11:56] <afallenhope> lol sorry.
[06:12:14] <afallenhope> I have debian linux. I typed: sudo apt-get install postfix
[06:12:27] <afallenhope> and I installed it.. asked me a question.. I answered it... now how do I send mail/
[06:12:52] <Zelest> you use a mail client. ;)
[06:13:32] <Motoko-chan> You introduce Mr Stamp to Mr Letter, then you introduce both to Mr Mailbox.
[06:13:34] <afallenhope> how can I set up users?
[06:13:56] <afallenhope> wow you're funny Motoko-chan. how long did that take for you to come up with?
[06:14:08] <Motoko-chan> About 5 seconds
[06:14:17] <afallenhope> heh. I'm impressed
[06:14:18] <afallenhope> lol
[06:14:24] <wedge> afallenhope: I think you need to read some guides on how to setup postfix+pop3+imap and users. Also you need reverse PTR from your ISP and port 25 unblocked...
[06:14:46] <wedge> I think it's easier if you just install thunderbird and use your ISPs mailserver if you only intend to use mail for yourself
[06:15:13] <wedge> however if you math the criteria of having multiple users who need mail, and you also have PTR record to your IP you can setup a mailserver
[06:15:21] <wedge> although as I said, read a guide about it.
[06:15:26] <wedge> there're plenty if you google.
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[06:22:00] <afallenhope> isn't there a confiuration tool on postfix?
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[06:24:23] <pickcoder> afallenhope: vim
[06:24:51] <afallenhope> word.
[06:24:52] <pickcoder> then there's postfixadmin for web interface
[06:25:01] <pickcoder> can't vouch for it personally
[06:25:16] <pickcoder> !postfixadmin
[06:25:16] <knoba> pickcoder: "postfixadmin" : used for managing email accounts through a web interface (http://high5.net/postfixadmin/)
[06:26:06] <afallenhope> nice
[06:26:07] <afallenhope> ty
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[06:42:25] <afallenhope> is Postfix linux friendly?
[06:43:06] <Zelest> I'd say that postfix is the most friendly MTA, as it's really easy to configure.
[06:45:55] <Dominian> wtf
[06:45:58] <Dominian> linux friendly?
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[07:01:31] <seekwill> gah! Does anyone know what Comcast's greylisting policies are?
[07:01:40] <Dominian> nope
[07:01:44] <Dominian> I don't think they even know
[07:01:53] <seekwill> 421 Service not available, closing transmission channel Grey listed.
[07:02:10] <seekwill> The funniest thing about this is, is that I'm replying to one of their sales rep's emails...
[07:02:11] <seekwill> :/
[07:02:32] <seekwill> "I want your service but you need to let me reply to you!!!"
[07:02:54] <wols> phone them
[07:03:19] <seekwill> Phone the sales person, or their postmaster?
[07:03:36] <seekwill> Oooh, I wonder if I emailed their postmaster, would that be grey listed too...
[07:03:39] <wols> comcast
[07:03:55] <wols> they're a business, they have a phone
[07:04:10] <seekwill> I no english speak good
[07:04:17] <wols> or, if you are mailing from a residential IP, use a smarthost
[07:04:31] <wols> seekwill: that makes you different from 2/3 of americans how?
[07:05:02] <seekwill> lol
[07:05:27] <seekwill> I'm not mailing from a residential IP. I'm on a fqdn, rdns, dk/dkim, etc.
[07:05:34] <seekwill> spf, senderid
[07:05:40] <seekwill> you name it, im probably on it
[07:06:25] <rcsheets> the no-fly list?
[07:06:50] <seekwill> Probably on that too :(
[07:06:59] <rcsheets> i sorry :(
[07:08:29] <seekwill> rcsheets: Please take me off that list. I beg you
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[07:16:08] <seekwill> haha, damn, got greylisted sending to postmaster...
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[07:47:41] <ultrav1olet> How can I stop postfix from sending to my root account such messages: Subject: Postfix SMTP server: errors from p5B1140DF.dip.t-dialin.net[91.17.64.223]
[07:47:53] <snadge> uh oh.. i just tested my new mail server, it was all working perfectly
[07:48:18] <snadge> swapped over the dns, and now TLS isnt working for smtp..
[07:48:25] <ultrav1olet> In the body of a message I see the full transcript of session ended with "Session aborted, reason: lost connection"
[07:48:37] <snadge> smtpd_tls_wrappermode = yes .. i had to enable this option to get it working
[07:49:07] <ultrav1olet> I have over several millions of such messages ... I cannot stand that any longer
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[07:57:01] <rcsheets> ultrav1olet: i think the directive you want to look at is notify_classes
[07:57:16] <rcsheets> i may be wrong though
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[08:01:24] <snadge> ok phew.. i've managed to get mail working without tls
[08:01:53] <snadge> but i kind of need to know why im getting this wrapper failure message
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[08:18:53] <snadge> i have an entry in master.cf for smtps
[08:19:07] <snadge> which has this option "-o smtpd_tls_wrappermode=yes"
[08:19:36] <snadge> this used to work.. now im getting the connection dropped (not refused) when telnetting to that port.. or querying with openssl -host
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[08:37:28] <Gokee2> lastlog f3ew
[08:37:35] <Gokee2> woops...
[08:39:05] <sysmonk> ;)))
[08:39:21] <Gokee2> I am trying to make postfix and mailman work with Virtual domains
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[08:41:35] <Gokee2> Right now mailman spits out two tables one looking like "fun:             "|/usr/local/mailman/skagitattic/mail/mailman post fun"" the other like "fun at skagitattic dot com              fun"  is there any way using the two tables to route mail going to "fun at skagitattic dot com" to  "|/usr/local/mailman/skagitattic/mail/mailman post fun"?
[08:41:47] <f3ew> what?
[08:42:32] <Gokee2> f3ew, Hey :)  I talked to you the other day and you said you had a working muti-domain mailman + postfix thing setup
[08:45:22] <f3ew> Yes
[08:45:51] <Gokee2> f3ew, So how did you get the maping to work right?
[08:46:56] <f3ew> Gokee2 virtual -> local -> mailman
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[08:48:35] <Gokee2> f3ew, But if I have it use the virtual to go from fun at skagitattic dot com to fun then I would have a crash when another list started up like fun at otherdomain dot com?
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[08:50:39] <f3ew> Gokee2 fun at example dot com -> fun.example.com at lists dot example.com
[08:50:49] <f3ew> Gokee2 fun at example dot net -> fun.example.net at lists dot example.com
[08:51:02] <f3ew> Create your aliases appropriately
[08:52:27] <Gokee2> How do I make mailman create a alias table like that?
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[09:24:28] <snadge> i found the problem
[09:25:02] <snadge> could someone explain to me why tlsmgr appears a) commented out in most master.cf examples.. b) is incorrectly defined as a fifo instead of a unix socket (which works)
[09:25:29] <snadge> on my original server.. it didnt care about this setting, and worked anyway (postfix 2.2)
[09:25:43] <snadge> the new server seems to need this value to be defined as unix
[09:26:33] <sysmonk> in default postfix config it's defined by default
[09:26:47] <sysmonk> so ask the guys who commented it out
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[09:27:18] <Raboliot> Hello, do you know how to pipe mail to script after virtual_alias ?
[09:28:19] <Raboliot> Currently I use content_filter but it passes all mails trought the script and I want to use the script only for virtual_aliases
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[09:41:00] <killerchicken_> ok, a while back, I was having trouble with the mail body being altered so that message signatures didn't verify any longer. Someone suggested I should turn off content-filtering with amavis, but this didn't help...
[09:41:53] <killerchicken_> specifically, the changed content is directly after the boundary.
[09:42:04] <killerchicken_> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
[09:42:04] <killerchicken_> Content-Disposition: inline
[09:42:09] <killerchicken_> that is changed
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[10:06:02] <snadge> sysmonk: the suse folks.. right.. thats what i get for fscking around with old versions of suse
[10:06:12] <snadge> their response would be that its not current therefore not their problem
[10:06:38] <snadge> regardless the problem has been rectified.. and i really dont care about suse getting the flick now
[10:06:58] <snadge> centos here we come ;)
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[11:07:41] <sysmonk> shinao1: please stop flooding
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[11:08:08] <sysmonk> and if somebody from ops is here, could you ban him temporary while he fixes his flooding issues?
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[11:14:16] <Elbar> must be an ops in disguise ;)
[11:17:36] <sysmonk> funny enough, but i don't know who's ops here although i'm sitting here for a few years;)
[11:18:03] <Elbar> =)
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[11:18:32] <sysmonk> 06-18 12:18:24 -ChanServ(ChanServ at services dot )- Founder    : waldi
[11:18:35] <sysmonk> doh, who's that? :)
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[11:19:29] <Elbar> sounds like a dog to me :P
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[11:21:52] <Raboliot> Hello everybody!
[11:22:07] <f3ew> sysmonk, we don't need no steenking ops
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[11:22:14] <f3ew> FWIW, I and Signum have ops
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[11:25:01] <sysmonk> k, i'll try to remember :P
[11:25:05] <sysmonk> uh?
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[11:25:31] <sysmonk> f3ew: no need to op me :)
[11:25:49] <sysmonk> if i'll ban him i'll won't be able to unban him when he'll fix his problem
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[11:26:02] <sysmonk> so it'd be better if somebody who can always gain op could ban him
[11:26:03] <ronino> hi
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[11:29:17] <ronino> I'm running a setup with MySQL and Postfix to administer mailboxes via DB, now I setup a new user and Postfix creates the directories cur, tmp and new in /var/spool/virtual-boxes/domain.tld/user/,domain.tld/user instead of in /var/spool/virtual-boxes/domain.tld/user/, any idea why this could be? The only update I did was on March 27 from 2.4.5 to 2.4.6, did anything change in configuration?
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[11:30:47] <ronino> virtual_mailbox_base        = /var/spool/virtual-boxes in my case
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[11:36:39] <Trengo> see whats in the database
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[11:42:14] <ronino> okay, seems like Postfix got confused as I mistakenly inserted the new user twice into the users table...
[11:43:48] <Raboliot> Does anybodu knows how to pipe mail to script after virtual_alias ?   bob@mydomain => virtual_alias => script => bob at hotmail/yahoo dot .. ?
[11:44:18] <ronino> Raboliot: I heard about procmail, but never used it, maybe that could be a hint
[11:44:32] <f3ew> Raboliot, you can't
[11:45:00] <f3ew>        This delivery agent was originally based on the Postfix local delivery agent. Modifications mainly consisted of removing code that
[11:45:00] <f3ew>        either  was  not  applicable  or  that  was  not safe in this context: aliases, ~user/.forward files, delivery to "|command" or to
[11:45:00] <f3ew>        /file/name.
[11:45:03] <f3ew> from virtual(*)
[11:45:08] <f3ew> err, virtual(8)
[11:45:38] <Raboliot> f3ew, and before virtual_alias ? But only for one of my domains ?
[11:46:19] <Raboliot> Because I don't want to use this script for all my domains.
[11:46:45] <__science> wwin 24
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[12:05:48] <fireglow> Hello, I have a problem with TLS: I followed this guide http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/virt-mail-howto.xml#doc_chap5 but once I try to send email I only get a message to the postmaster saying " Out: 454 4.3.0 TLS not available due to local problem" and in /var/log/maillog only that this message was delivered to the postmaster - What can I do to identify the problem?
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[12:21:01] <AL13N> On my server, i'd like to relay emails FROM a certain domain to an authenticated smtp gateway, any idea as to how i could do this?
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[12:23:43] <AL13N> i found sender_dependent_relayhost_maps , but how can i use smtp authentication?
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[13:40:22] <wols> AL13N: read the docs. postfix can do smtpd auth and smtp auth
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[14:00:23] <AL13N> wols: thanks, i have already some answers, but the tls has issues
[14:01:12] <AL13N> does the smtp client automatically switch to port 465 when using tls?
[14:02:13] <wols> unlikely
[14:02:40] <padde> AL13N: a connection can be 'converted' to tls
[14:03:16] <sysmonk> AL13N: smtp doesn't switch to any port
[14:03:18] <AL13N> i've been using the smtp_tls_policy_maps
[14:03:23] <wols> AL13N: a port25 connection can invoke STARTTLS
[14:03:24] <sysmonk> unless you explictly say to connect to some other port
[14:03:41] <wols> sysmonk: port 465 is an official SMTP port
[14:04:06] <AL13N> aha! i have some improvement now
[14:04:23] <AL13N> so port 465 is actually also textbased
[14:04:29] <sysmonk> wols: did i mention any port at all?
[14:05:34] <AL13N> certificate verification failed for smtp.gmail.com: num=20:unable to get local issuer certificate
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[14:08:03] <AL13N> http://pastebin.com/m35abdab8
[14:08:13] <AL13N> at least TLS is started now
[14:08:20] <AL13N> but verification fails
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[14:12:34] <AL13N> "SSL_connect:SSLv2/v3 write client hello A"
[14:12:38] <AL13N> what is this error?
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[14:22:55] <Edheldil> Hi, I use postfix+procmail to deliver mail to users with usernames of the 'name@domain' kind. These users are authorized by an NSS module. The problem is that when there's a problem delivering to "user@domain" 's maildir (overquota, no such user), postfix/procmail tries to deliver to "user domain". Any idea what I am doing wrong?
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[15:08:50] <AL13N> finally got it working...
[15:09:28] <AL13N> it appears gmail doesn't advertise auth, and it need anonymous sasl auth... on the :submission port, go figure???
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[15:09:41] <AL13N> i wonder if it's now an open relay
[15:09:43] <AL13N> ;-)
[15:09:55] <f3ew> AL13N it should be advertising AUTH only post TLS
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[15:39:25] <AL13N> f3ew: ah, that's why
[15:39:34] <AL13N> i couldn't see it
[15:39:46] <AL13N> f3ew: how can i look at what they are presenting?
[15:39:56] <AL13N> is there a postfix loglevel option for it?
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[15:51:04] <yopyop> hello, amavis was sending lot of mail to quarantine, i changed my conf, so it wont happend anymore, how can i send old mail to queue again ?
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[15:53:48] <shasta> amavisd-new comes with "amavis-release" utility, use it.
[15:54:36] <yopyop> thanks
[15:54:51] <Tex-Twil> ok nevermind, it was just a cookie problem
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[15:55:52] <PcPixel> Should the location of a header_checks file and a test_file have any bearing on how: postmap -q - regexp:<header file location> < <test file location>
[15:58:11] <PcPixel> im trying to narrow down a problem with RHEL
[15:58:33] <PcPixel> if i run: postmap -q - regexp:/etc/postfix/checks/header_checks < tmp/test
[15:58:38] <PcPixel> i get no output
[15:58:47] <PcPixel> if i move the test file into /etc/postfix/checks
[15:59:08] <PcPixel> and then rerun this while inside /etc/postfix/checks: postmap -q - regexp:header_checks < test
[15:59:11] <PcPixel> then it works
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[16:01:10] <rob0> "tmp/test" is missing the leading "/"
[16:01:58] <PcPixel> i missed it in the example
[16:02:00] <rob0> AL13N: see openssl(1) and s_client(1) man pages
[16:02:06] <PcPixel> i did put /tmp/test in the command when i ran it
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[16:05:08] <PcPixel> the whole thing has been really confusing
[16:05:17] <rob0> In that case, apparently it does make a difference; no idea why.
[16:05:44] <PcPixel> i forget if i enabled the header_checks in my main.cf. im going to do it now again to verify that the mail was slipping by it
[16:05:52] <PcPixel> but its like it just totaly ignores it
[16:06:07] <PcPixel> oh another thing i tried that was odd
[16:06:22] <PcPixel> i made some test folders with different header_checks, test files
[16:06:33] <PcPixel> but one i screwed up and indadvertantly placed it in /
[16:07:01] <PcPixel> if i run something like: postmap -q - regexp:/root/test1/header_checks < /test
[16:07:05] <PcPixel> i get permission denied
[16:07:12] <PcPixel> but if both files reside in /, it works
[16:14:04] <PcPixel> nope
[16:14:11] <PcPixel> header_checks do not work if i enable them in postfix
[16:14:15] <PcPixel> the mail just goes right through
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[16:18:03] <rob0> prepare a detailed pastebin, including "postconf -n", uncommented master.cf, your header_checks, and the headers you think should have matched.
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[16:27:11] <onre> hello. i'm setting up postfix on a server and i have other servers configured as null clients. what's the recommended way of making the central server to receive mail for whole domain? i could list all servers in 'mydestination' or even create a regex, but i'm almost sure there's a better way for this that i just don't see
[16:28:20] <onre> i mean, so that when central server gets mail from blah.example.com that's supposed to be sent to root at blah dot example.com, the central server delivers it locally insted of trying to contact blah.example.com
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[16:28:32] <PcPixel> rob0: ok, give me a few & ill do that., im juggling a lot right now
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[16:35:31] <PcPixel> dammit, it scrolled by. rob0: you wanted master.cf header_checks, and the file. anything else? main.cf?
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[16:46:22] <wols> onre: virtual domains
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[16:49:26] <PcPixel> im formatting a floppy now to get the files for pastebin
[16:52:11] <PcPixel> ok
[16:52:15] <PcPixel> one sec and ill get the files up
[16:52:50] <onre> wols, tbh that looks a bit overkill-ish, as what i'm looking for is almost achieved by 'myorigin = example.com' in main.cf on null clients. the only thing is that i can't no longer see at one glance which server sent the mail to me. the only mail delivered here is stuff like cron error messages etc, there are virtually no other recipients than root at central server.
[16:55:14] <PcPixel> rob0: pok, the pastebin is: http://www.pastebin.org/44477
[17:00:09] <onre> basically what i'm looking here is something that'd enable me just to copy the nullclient config on new servers as i install them and not do anything on the central server and everything'd just work :p
[17:00:13] <onre> +for
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[17:01:11] <PcPixel> brb. gotta get my lunch form the fridge
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[17:08:53] <PcPixel> ok im back
[17:08:58] <PcPixel> rob0: still with me?>
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[17:15:47] <rob0> So you submit mail containing "cake" in a header, and it does not trigger the WARN action?
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[17:16:06] <rob0> You should get an IRC client capable of scrolling up.
[17:16:15] <Shamgar> Is postfix able to support both mbox and maildir accounts on the same box?
[17:16:16] <PcPixel> rob0: yeah i cant. im text only
[17:16:24] <PcPixel> rob0: let me try one last time
[17:16:35] <PcPixel> rob0: i just realized that it was in the body not header.
[17:16:41] <PcPixel> so maybe im just an idiot. one sec.
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[17:17:18] <arakthor> is the argument for mailbox_size_limit the size in bytes?
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[17:18:29] <arakthor> same question for message_size_limit
[17:18:32] <will_> It would suck if it was in GB... :/
[17:18:59] <arakthor> ha, yeh. I justwanted to confirm so dumb things didn't happen
[17:19:18] <onre> ha. solved the problem with a regexp domain map containing exactly one regexp :p
[17:19:21] <shasta> arakthor, such things should be confirmed by looking in the manual, not here
[17:19:29] <shasta> arakthor, man 5 postconf is your friend.
[17:19:42] <arakthor> shasta, the man page for postconf does not say for mailbox_size_limit
[17:19:54] <arakthor> it does for message_size_limit
[17:21:03] <PcPixel> it works
[17:21:39] <Shamgar> I know about home_mailbox, but I haven't been able to find a way to alter that for a given user.
[17:21:53] <shasta> arakthor, it doesn't explicitly, but it does say "This limit must not be smaller than the message size limit."
[17:22:31] <PcPixel> looks like im just an idiot
[17:22:31] <PcPixel> :)
[17:23:18] <rob0> I'm using irssi, text mode.
[17:23:29] <rob0> try "PageUp"
[17:23:37] <PcPixel> wow! it works!
[17:23:43] <PcPixel> rob0: thanks for that nugget
[17:23:52] <PcPixel> rob0: but it looks right... i dunno what happened
[17:24:07] <PcPixel> rob0: i guess i just had a brain shutdown
[17:24:17] <arakthor> thanks, shasta
[17:24:22] <will_> So does anyone know Comcast's greylisting policies?
[17:26:24] <PcPixel> rob0: thanks for the tip & going over my files. much appreciated.
[17:26:38] <PcPixel> rob0: it does still look like at the command shell level there is a path problem with postmap, but i can work with it.
[17:28:11] * Shamgar takes the silence to mean you can't support multiple mailbox types on a single postfix server.
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[17:31:55] <rob0> Shamgar, "man local", .forward -- and dozens of other possibilities
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[17:35:13] <iEatChildren> this question might not make much sense so im apologize  in advance. I would like to find a way to scan for any email thats going to specified email address (email at domain dot com for example) and inject its subject and body contents in to a sql db....is this possible? if so...what terms can i start googling for more info?
[17:37:37] <PcPixel> hmm; interesting question
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[17:37:58] <shasta> iEatChildren, you mean, at the postfix level?
[17:38:05] <shasta> write a content_filter :-)
[17:38:12] <will_> sieve script :)
[17:39:35] <iEatChildren> that gives me something to go off of...i really didnt know where to start on this
[17:40:57] <will_> I assume you want to do this the hard way, and have it as soon as the message is received, it would be injected into the database? You can't just write a script (perl/php?) to poll an IMAP database...
[17:41:15] * will_ is glad he is an adult
[17:41:30] <shasta> imap database?
[17:41:41] <will_> imap folder :)
[17:41:55] <will_> this answer might not make much sense so im apologize  in advance.
[17:42:01] <iEatChildren> the basic idea is that users can email helpdesk and their "issue" is loaded in to a mysql db with the subject, body, email address, and timestamp
[17:42:37] <will_> iEatChildren:  Use a ticketing system like otrs or eventum
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[17:43:58] <will_> Having a script poll a mailbox is the better way of doing it.
[17:44:45] <iEatChildren> good idea
[17:44:56] <shasta> not really, can fail when someone deletes an email between the polls
[17:45:01] <PcPixel> ok time to press on with my system
[17:45:04] <PcPixel> rob0: thanks again!
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[17:46:28] <Shamgar> Yeah, it was quicker to patch the pop daemon in the end.  I was looking for something akin to the way .qmail files work, not defining additional transports in the master.cf and all that.
[17:46:32] <Shamgar> thanks tho
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[17:46:52] <will_> shasta:  No, it would be a dedicated mailbox
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[17:47:19] <will_> Or, you could do an alias of the "helpdesk@" to shove the message into a dedicated box
[17:47:20] <rob0> .qmail files were an imitation of .forward
[17:48:51] <Edheldil> Hi, I use postfix+procmail to deliver mail to users with usernames of the 'name@domain' kind. These users are authorized by an NSS module. The problem is that when there's a problem delivering to "user@domain" 's maildir (overquota, no such user), postfix/procmail tries to deliver to "user domain". Any idea what I am doing wrong?
[17:50:40] <jeev> heh
[17:50:47] <jeev> Jun 18 08:50:11 earthquake pop3d: LOGIN FAILED, user=online, ip=[68.15.44.53]
[17:50:47] <jeev> Jun 18 08:50:11 earthquake pop3d: Maximum connection limit reached for 68.15.44.53
[17:50:47] <jeev> Jun 18 08:50:12 earthquake last message repeated 19 times
[17:50:47] <jeev> Jun 18 08:50:12 earthquake pop3d: LOGOUT, ip=[68.15.44.53]
[17:50:47] <jeev> Jun 18 08:50:12 earthquake pop3d: Maximum connection limit reached for 68.15.44.53
[17:50:50] <jeev> who is this cumcatcher
[17:51:52] <rob0> Of course the qmail fans seem to think that .qmail files were something new.
[17:52:01] <jeev> eh
[17:52:04] <jeev> .qmail files are l33t
[17:53:50] <will_> jeev:  Just block the IP :P
[17:53:55] <jeev> yea 8i idd
[17:54:19] <jeev> rdp to that ip
[17:54:22] <jeev> it's running windows server
[17:54:25] <jeev> they must've brute forced it
[17:56:33] <vice-versa> that's pure speculation of course
[17:57:02] <jeev> i think so!
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[18:23:19] <iEatChildren> will_ - would something like this work even though the mail is normally going to exchange? http://www.niquille.com/2005/05/19/mail2php-postfix-phpstdin/
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[18:25:16] <will_> iEatChildren:  That looks really good. But I don't know the postfix bits.
[18:25:36] <will_> So I don't know how you would have some delivered locally and some delivered to Exchange.
[18:25:57] <iEatChildren> ill see what i can google up
[18:26:01] <iEatChildren> thanks for your help
[18:26:52] <will_> So you want all mail to hlpdesk@ to go to the database, and then ... dropped? Will the messages need to go to others as well?
[18:27:36] <iEatChildren> if i can deliver all helpdesk@ to a local mailbox so it can be parsed with that script that might work better
[18:28:16] <will_> For example, our organization has support@ as an alias to will@, josh@, alec@, support-otrs@. support-otrs@ is the mailbox for the ticketing system. We all get the message in our personal box as well. Maybe you want something like that?
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[18:28:38] <will_> ... just a thought.
[18:29:47] <iEatChildren> i have a distribution group setup in exchange that does that same thing, if it gets delivered to those mailboxes thats cool...my main goal is being able to get those requests in a db somehow
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[18:30:33] <will_> Personally, I'd do it on the exchange side
[18:30:52] <will_> And have the PHP script poll exchange
[18:31:15] <iEatChildren> they have an imap function in php for that....but i dont run imap and im not sure if it will work do to that
[18:31:31] <will_> oh
[18:31:44] * will_ <== Exchange n00b
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[18:32:13] <iEatChildren> this project is really a shot in the dark. currently i have a helpdesk system in place but it requires users to login so they constantly just email me instead...kinda defeating the purpose
[18:32:28] <iEatChildren> the reason i wrote it is that i cant keep up with the emails and i cant stay organized with just emails
[18:32:32] <MrPunkin> Sending mail from Ruby in batches through Postfix... get this in my maillog: "Jun 18 12:27:50 ip-10-251-107-160 postfix/smtp[8352]: connect to ip-10-251-107-160.ec2.internal[10.251.107.160]: Connection refused (port 25)"
[18:32:50] <MrPunkin> Anyone know why that would happen considering its a local install, so why would it have a connection refused to itself?
[18:33:01] <will_> It's not listening to that IP
[18:33:57] <cpm> iEatChildren, the good folks at bestpractical developed RT for a reason. One reason so many folks use it, is because it works really well. The reason folks have written books on it, is because it's so excellent. Maybe you'd like to check it out.
[18:34:19] <will_> iEatChildren:  We use OTRS with great luck.
[18:34:36] <will_> I can't remember why we didn't go with RT
[18:34:39] <iEatChildren> OTRS looks good...ill have to try them both out and see what is going to work for us
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[18:34:57] <will_> iEatChildren:  It will be a lot easier than writing everything from scratch
[18:36:27] <iEatChildren> i like writing things so i can customize them at will....but if its going to be a huge pain in my ass i can work with a system already in place for now
[18:36:59] <iEatChildren> that and writing it myself really improves my programming abilities
[18:37:15] <cpm> will_, I know some folks who are using OTRS because they burned by an older RT's loop detection that didn't work as well as it might have. Came into work one monday morning to a few hundred thousand tickets generated by an autoreply. The loop detection is now a lot better :)
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[18:39:19] <will_> cpm:  lol
[18:42:10] <cpm> RT is non-trivial to get a hang of. But once you get it, you get it. It's another one of those software packages that makes you go 'Sheesh! I could replace *everything* with this, except maybe the general ledger'
[18:42:42] <iEatChildren> nice...ill check that out
[18:43:49] <will_> heh
[18:44:17] <will_> OTRS is a bit confusing to me, but I'm dumb. Once I got the hang of it, I ** REPLY ** on it.
[18:46:02] <iEatChildren> so with OTRS you can email helpdesk and it submits a ticket OR you can login and submit it via the website?
[18:46:15] <MrPunkin> will_: It works for about half the batches, then starts tossing those errors.
[18:46:21] * cpm strongly recommends RT Essentials, http://tinyurl.com/59p9gc
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[19:04:47] <tsdano> A setup question for a host on a network where there is a primary mail server and all other systems should forward all local mail to the primary mail server for handling. I've read and setup the Postfix on a null client (http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html#null_client) configuration and that handles non-local delivery fine
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[19:05:39] <tsdano> I've also setup the lusers_relay parameter with $user at mail dot myrealdomain.com
[19:05:43] <guillaume> Hi all, If i want to add an automatic disclaimer to the end of every outdoing mail of my serveur what software would you recommand ?!
[19:05:59] <tsdano> the luser_relay rewrites the address fine, but does not rewrite the sender address
[19:06:18] <tsdano> I need the sender address, say, if sent from root, to be root at myrealdomain dot com, regardless of the host that it's from
[19:06:45] <shasta> guillaume, altermime
[19:08:31] <guillaume> shasta, okay then im good :p this is what i have tried to configure this morning with no success.... Everything is in place but when i send a mail i get this error  "http://pastebin.com/d3e8d1b78". starting from there i took a look at the permission of the file and they are okay. I dont know if its the right place to ask for help about this thanks in advance
[19:10:29] <will_> iEatChildren:  Yeah
[19:10:37] <will_> iEatChildren:  All of our customers submit via email though
[19:10:43] <shasta> guillaume, ls -l /etc/postfix/disclaimer
[19:10:49] <iEatChildren> sweet, thanks again will_
[19:10:57] <will_> MrPunkin:  No idea, sorry
[19:11:59] <guillaume> shasta, -rwxr-x--- 1 root filter 716 Jun 18 11:42 /etc/postfix/disclaimer
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[19:13:22] <shasta> "they are okay" <- oh really? :)
[19:13:33] <shasta> probably your postfix runs as user "postfix" ;)
[19:13:45] <shasta> is it a member of 'filter' group?
[19:15:19] <guillaume> /etc/group --> filter:x:101:filter,postfix
[19:16:05] <shasta> did you restart postfix after adding it to the filter group?
[19:16:21] <shasta> i hope you don't have /etc mounted noexec
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[19:17:04] <guillaume> /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 on / type ext3 (rw)   (seems fine to me)
[19:17:15] <guillaume> and yes postfix have been restarter
[19:17:18] <guillaume> restarted sorry
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[19:21:19] <guillaume> shasta, so in the end im getting confused about what is wrong hehe :p
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[19:26:21] <TaiSHi> I have 2 domains running on my postfix system, I want that mail that comes from an authenticated user at domain1 dot ext gets relayed to an external SMTP
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[19:27:48] <tsdano> all, here is the setup instructions I've put together based on my earlier question, I'd just like confirmation that these settings are correct for what I want to accomplish. Everything is documented here http://pastebin.com/m72c934d1
[19:27:51] <tsdano> thanks in advance
[19:28:31] <shasta> guillaume, SELinux?
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[19:29:45] <guillaume> shasta, negative :( :p
[19:31:12] <shasta> hm
[19:31:29] <shasta> usermod -s /bin/bash postfix
[19:31:34] <shasta> su - postfix
[19:31:49] <shasta> /etc/postfix/disclaimer
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[19:34:09] <_LoneCrow> I'm obviously quite new to postfix,  but my log shows several lines which say ultimately "put email address here" each on a separate line with a separate error.  I've checked all the configs and I can't see where I missed something...
[19:35:21] <will_> You should be pasting the exact error message, especially since you're "quite new"
[19:35:48] <_LoneCrow> <address at wavedirect dot powercode.com> (expanded from <address>): unknown user:
[19:35:48] <_LoneCrow>     "address"
[19:36:33] <_LoneCrow> basically unknown user errors
[19:37:02] <_LoneCrow> it is self generated regularly by the looks of it.  We are not really using it for anything other than the occasional email that is sent from it.
[19:39:11] <will_> So... what's the problem?
[19:40:00] <guillaume> sahsta, http://pastebin.com/d7623cf75
[19:40:15] <_LoneCrow> I'm trying to clean up the number of emails sent back to root with error messages. It looks like it is simple to fix, one error is wrong address put, then email, then address then here ..
[19:40:42] <shasta> guillaume, head -n 1 /etc/postfix/disclaimer
[19:41:09] <guillaume> #!/bin/sh
[19:42:47] <guillaume> shasta, if this can after i ended my setup i found this link "http://www.howtoforge.com/add-automatic-disclaimers-to-outgoing-emails-with-altermime-postfix-fedora8" and i did exactly the same but on my centos..... is this can help lol :p
[19:43:38] <shasta> pastebin your whole /etc/postfix/disclaimer
[19:44:13] <_LoneCrow> Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; unknown user: "here"
[19:45:10] <shasta> LoneCrow, looks like a insufficently edited template of some application :-)
[19:45:14] <guillaume> shasta, http://pastebin.com/m3f98ab83
[19:46:01] <_LoneCrow> probably.. but the guys who set it up are already working on other problems more important and i'm just trying to clean up some of these which look somewhat easy, possibly just editing a config file or something
[19:46:22] <_LoneCrow> I've looked thru pretty much all of /etc/postfix and can't find any reference to it
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[19:56:17] <shasta> guillaume, side note: I'm very suprised your shell cannot handle the trap line
[19:56:56] <shasta> ls -l /bin/sh
[19:57:03] <guillaume> so am i lol :p
[19:57:17] <guillaume> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Mar  3 09:55 /bin/sh -> bash
[19:59:16] <shasta> ls -ld /var/spool/filter
[20:01:00] <guillaume> drwxr-xr-x 2 filter filter 4096 Jun 18 13:39 /var/spool/filter
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[20:04:07] <shasta> and your postfix isn't chrooted, right?
[20:05:21] <guillaume> nop it is not
[20:06:13] <guillaume> a basic postfix installation that relay mail to an other smtp server (this setup is to make these test) once it will work i will move this to my main smtp server which is a pretty straight configuration
[20:06:45] <guillaume> i will give it a try on a debian right away im curious to see if it will work with the same configuration
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[20:08:39] <vice-versa> guillaume: try changing the trap to, trap 'rm -f "in.$$?' 0 1 2 3 15
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[20:09:06] <guillaume> ok let me try this out vive-versa
[20:09:21] <shasta> you missed one ", vice-versa
[20:09:28] <vice-versa> yeah
[20:09:41] <shasta> s/?/"/
[20:09:57] <TaiSHi> lunaphyte ?
[20:09:59] <vice-versa> trap 'rm -f "in.$$"' 0 1 2 3 15
[20:10:15] <vice-versa> guillaume: ^^^
[20:10:26] <lunaphyte_> que?
[20:10:42] <guillaume> got it lol brb
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[20:12:06] <guillaume> vive-versa, shasta, still getting the same error in maillog
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[20:12:56] <TaiSHi> lunaphyte_ brb <- start the war.
[20:13:41] <lunaphyte_> oh, you mean big red balls?
[20:13:57] <shasta> well, for some reason, postfix cannot spawn the process; i suspected: permission issues, selinux policy, noexec mount, wrong shebang line or wrong shell. apparently it's neither. i'm out of ideas
[20:14:05] <TaiSHi> brown rail bicycles
[20:15:45] <lunaphyte_> sorry, i'm a bit preoccupied atm.
[20:15:55] <vice-versa> guillaume: where did you get the script?
[20:16:45] <guillaume> vice-versa i folloed this http://www.howtoforge.com/add-automatic-disclaimers-to-outgoing-emails-with-altermime-postfix-fedora8 and that script "disclaimer" is the same thing as the script shipped by the debian package
[20:16:48] <TaiSHi> lunaphyte_: I win this time then.
[20:16:57] <lunaphyte_> fair enough.
[20:17:39] <TaiSHi> Surely is.
[20:17:48] <TaiSHi> Hope your thigs get better
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[20:19:02] <tsdano> it appears that setting "luser_relay = $user@$mydomain" does not expand properly to "luser_relay = $user at myrealdomain dot com"
[20:19:23] <tsdano> using the text string rather than the variable substitution makes the relay operate properly
[20:19:45] <tsdano> postfix-2.4.5-2.fc8
[20:19:53] <tsdano> just an fyi
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[20:22:07] <vice-versa> guillaume: you still get the trap error if your run the script on the cli?
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[20:26:08] <guillaume> vice-versa http://pastebin.com/d4e2ef6f3
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[20:26:57] <guillaume> vice-versa, shasta, for your information on a debian with the same config mail are getting sended but there are not disclaimer in the message.... like if altermime didnt got called...
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[20:30:40] <vice-versa> guillaume: let's see that trap line from the script
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[20:33:43] <guillaume> vice-versa okay what you want me to check ?!
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[20:34:46] <vice-versa> guillaume: just wanted to see the trap line
[20:35:01] <vice-versa> anyhow, http://pastebin.com/d64e63b51
[20:35:02] <guillaume> trap 'rm -f "in.$$?' 0 1 2 3 15
[20:35:17] <vice-versa> yeah, missing a " there
[20:35:34] <vice-versa> trap 'rm -f "in.$$"' 0 1 2 3 15
[20:36:11] <guillaume> this is what i have in my file
[20:37:21] <vice-versa> take a closer look, you're missing a " after in$$
[20:37:39] <shasta> guillaume, pastebin your _current_ disclaimer script
[20:37:57] <shasta> I think I might know where the syntax error comes from
[20:38:14] <vice-versa> or try this one, http://pastebin.com/d64e63b51
[20:38:18] <guillaume> http://pastebin.com/d97e0101
[20:38:51] <shasta> guillaume, line 14, newline between exit and $EX_TEMPFAIL;
[20:39:59] <vice-versa> not sure that really matters as it's encapsulated within {}
[20:40:15] <guillaume> lets still try it :p
[20:40:26] <brotig> my realy ist always local but as the script on workaround it should be dovecot .. it's depressing.
[20:40:37] <brotig> *but at
[20:40:57] <vice-versa> I corrected it in my revision of the script too fwi
[20:41:20] <guillaume> nop the newline does not change a thing :(
[20:42:01] <vice-versa> let's see the output from trying to run it on the cli now
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[20:43:06] <guillaume> ok
[20:43:58] <guillaume> i think its an upgrade lol
[20:44:00] <guillaume> http://pastebin.com/d7febc58d
[20:44:39] <vice-versa> well an improvement at least ;)
[20:45:14] <shasta> guillaume, su - postfix -c "touch /var/spool/filter/foobar"
[20:46:01] <guillaume> permission denied out there let me check this out
[20:46:09] <shasta> [20:01:01] < guillaume> drwxr-xr-x 2 filter filter 4096 Jun 18 13:39 /var/spool/filter
[20:46:12] <shasta> you need g+w there
[20:46:30] <guillaume> thats what i just saw hehe doing it right away
[20:46:48] <guillaume> su - postfix and touch works now
[20:47:50] <guillaume> relay=dfilt, delay=0.15, delays=0.06/0.02/0/0.06, dsn=4.3.0, status=deferred (temporary failure. Command output: pipe: fatal: pipe_command: execvp /etc/postfix/disclaimer: Permission denied )
[20:47:55] <guillaume> still getting this though
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[20:49:19] <shasta> what happens if you chmod 755 /etc/postfix/disclaimer ?
[20:50:24] <guillaume> no change
[20:50:31] <iEatChildren> right now im forwarding all email to our exchange box....can i specify that i want 1 particular email address to deliver localy?
[20:51:09] <shasta> !transport_maps
[20:51:09] <knoba> shasta: "transport_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup tables with mappings from recipient address to (message delivery transport, next-hop destination). See transport(5) for details.
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[20:51:44] <shasta> foo at bar dot com local:$myhostname should work
[20:51:47] <shasta> (i guess :>)
[20:52:08] <TaiSHi> !chucknorris
[20:52:08] <knoba> TaiSHi: "chucknorris" : Steven Seagal is CockPuncher
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[20:52:25] <TaiSHi> !Learn StevenSeagal "Is the CockPuncher"
[20:52:26] <knoba> TaiSHi: (learn [<channel>] <key> as <value>) -- Associates <key> with <value>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. The word 'as' is necessary to separate the key from the value. It can be changed to another word via the learnSeparator registry value.
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[20:52:41] <TaiSHi> !learn #postfix StevenSeagal as The CockPuncher
[20:53:04] <TaiSHi> !learn ?StevenSeagal as The CockPuncher
[20:53:28] <Dominian> wth
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[20:57:52] <vice-versa> guillaume: only thing I can think of is to check the perms on any other files involved in that script
[20:58:10] <shasta> well
[20:58:21] <guillaume> well that is what im going through :p if i fond something ill let you know hehe !
[20:58:22] <shasta> postfix can't execvp() it
[20:58:30] <guillaume> Just want to say many thanks so far for the time andhelp
[20:58:40] <shasta> hm
[20:59:15] <shasta> guillaume, and what happens if you mv /etc/postfix/disclaimer /usr/local/bin/ ?
[20:59:51] <shasta> and are you really really sure there's no selinux on your centos?
[21:00:09] <shasta> i think it's on by default on centos 5
[21:00:50] <shasta> grep SELINUX= /etc/selinux/config
[21:02:06] <idle-boy``> getenforce will tell you what is the status of selinux
[21:04:03] <guillaume> it was on enforcing and earlyer this morning it was at permissive..... am sorry :p i just set it back to permissive
[21:04:22] <guillaume> now getting a brand new error lol ill pastebin that
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[21:05:33] <shasta> sigh, 2 hours of debugging, and NOW you say you had selinux in enforcing mode... :P
[21:05:54] <guillaume> vice-versa, shasta, http://pastebin.com/d7f6a9aa6
[21:06:50] <guillaume> shasta, that why i said i am truly sorry lol when you first asked it was on permissive....... we did a few test and i had to reboot the machine quickly and it must have set it back to enforcing really sorry about this
[21:12:56] <guillaume> but since i am getting this new kind of error i think i will work a while on this to figure it out since its now on an other level :D
[21:13:20] <guillaume> i dont want to take again too much of your time ! though it has been really apreciated
[21:13:21] <guillaume> :D
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[21:17:25] <tylere> I'm having issues with forwarding. If I check my forward via postmap, the proper real address is returned, but when trying to actually send mail to the forwarded address, I get unknown user bounces
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[21:18:35] <tylere> postcont: http://www.tylere.net/postconf.txt
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[21:19:10] <tylere> server is setup following http://www.howtoforge.com/virtual_postfix_mysql_quota_courier
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[21:21:08] <guillaume> So again Many thanks to both vice-versa and shasta for your time and help !!!!!
[21:21:18] <vice-versa> np
[21:21:26] <tylere> is there any way to at least turn on a ton of debugging output so I can have some idea what it's doing when it looks up?
[21:21:33] <Knoedel2> someone know on which osi layer dns round robin is working ?
[21:21:37] <tylere> because as far as I can tell it's not hitting alias at all
[21:21:46] <vice-versa> tylere: this is an alias?
[21:23:37] <vice-versa> show some log excerpts of the failed deliver attempt
[21:24:04] <vice-versa> !debug
[21:24:05] <knoba> vice-versa: "debug" : http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html : a good starting point for how to deal with problems and to report information to those who might help. Post your information in a pastebin such as http://pastebin.ca/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ .
[21:24:30] <tylere> Jun 18 15:10:23 tylere postfix/virtual[3452]: 6F5746407E6: to=<foo at unit119 dot com>, relay=virtual, delay=0.05, delays=0.03/0.01/0/0.01, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (unknown user: "foo at unit119 dot com")
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[21:25:36] <tylere> orwardings.cf g# postmap -q "foo at unit119 dot com" mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_fo
[21:25:36] <tylere> tyler_eaves at unit119 dot com
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[21:27:45] <cweis> !logs
[21:27:45] <knoba> cweis: "logs" : by default, postfix logs to the mail facility of syslog. Something like grep -i `postconf -h syslog_facility` /etc/syslog.conf or grep -rl `postconf -h syslog_name` /var/log/* should tell you where logs are going.
[21:28:01] <cweis> neat
[21:31:47] <vice-versa> tylere: do you know why you are using this?  receive_override_options = no_address_mappings
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[21:32:11] <tylere> no, I don't. cut and pasted from the walkthrough I would imagine
[21:32:17] <tylere> lemme pull it out and see what happens
[21:32:41] <vice-versa> http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#receive_override_options
[21:33:26] <tylere> ahh, thanks, that did the trick!
[21:33:41] <vice-versa> fwiw, no_address_mappings disables virtual alias map expansion
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[21:34:37] <tylere> yea, that would do it I suppose ;)
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[21:34:44] <vice-versa> indeed
[21:34:55] <vice-versa> !tutorial
[21:34:55] <knoba> vice-versa: "tutorial" : A very common problem is that some people prefer to follow a step-by-step tutorial that shows them how to setup their mail server without reading the documentation or understanding what they are doing. If something goes wrong, they have no clue whatsoever about where to look for hints, and they sometimes decide to start from scratch using a different tutorial. This is not The Proper Way.
[21:35:26] <cpm> !vice-versa
[21:35:27] <knoba> cpm: "vice-versa" : adv : with the order reversed; on the contrary; on opposite sides. eg: 'rob0 loathes cpm and vice-versa'
[21:35:36] * cpm chuckles
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[21:38:18] <cweis> hm... anybody know the problem, that postfix is not logging to any files (at least not to those printed by the grep command above)? I just set up postfix on a vserver largely following that howto: http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-etch/#schritt-7-eine-testmail-mit-telnet-versenden
[21:39:09] <cweis> and I am stuck at the point where I try the connection with telnet and mail from:... creates no response at all and logfiles stay empty (even after several restarts)
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[21:42:50] <cpm> netstat -nuat | grep :25 says what?
[21:43:09] <TaiSHi> It says m00!
[21:43:15] <TaiSHi> !m00
[21:43:16] <knoba> TaiSHi: Error: "m00" is not a valid command.
[21:43:18] <cpm> heh
[21:43:18] <TaiSHi> !moo
[21:43:19] <knoba> TaiSHi: Error: "moo" is not a valid command.
[21:43:22] <TaiSHi> moo?
[21:43:25] <TaiSHi> m00?
[21:43:32] <TaiSHi> !learn m00 as m0000000000000
[21:43:39] <TaiSHi> Damnit, knoba hates me...
[21:44:09] <cpm> !m00
[21:44:10] <knoba> cpm: "m00" : m0000000000000
[21:44:14] <cweis> tcp        0      0 78.47.5.10:25           0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[21:44:15] <cweis> tcp        0      0 78.47.5.10:42565        78.47.5.10:25           ESTABLISHED
[21:44:15] <cweis> tcp       36      0 78.47.5.10:25           78.47.5.10:42565        ESTABLISHED
[21:44:17] <TaiSHi> Oh, he did learn it...
[21:44:19] <cweis> says that
[21:44:21] <TaiSHi> !StevenSeagal
[21:44:21] <knoba> TaiSHi: "StevenSeagal" : The CockPuncher
[21:44:27] <TaiSHi> Ah, <3
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[21:44:37] <TaiSHi> It should have some confirmation about learnage
[21:44:37] <cpm> !chucknorris
[21:44:37] <knoba> cpm: "chucknorris" : Steven Seagal is CockPuncher
[21:44:50] <TaiSHi> You should replace that one
[21:44:50] <cpm> why? I like it.
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[21:45:01] <TaiSHi> It talks about Steven Seagal
[21:45:02] <cpm> cweis, firewall maybe?
[21:45:14] <cweis> umm
[21:45:17] <TaiSHi> It should say something about CNorris
[21:45:23] <cweis> would produce what issue?
[21:45:38] <cpm> cweis, not being able to connect
[21:45:45] <cweis> ehlo works on postfix
[21:45:53] <cweis> it identifies correctly
[21:46:06] <cpm> okay
[21:46:14] <cweis> could that still work, but mail would not?
[21:46:22] <cpm> i read that 'not responding at all' out of context
[21:46:34] <cweis> ah, no
[21:46:44] <cweis> it responds via telnet to ehlo
[21:46:53] <cweis> just not mail
[21:46:54] <cpm> yeah, I see that.
[21:47:35] <cweis> actually, after i type the 'mail from:<steve at example dot com>' line the telnet session won't respond to anything anymore
[21:48:20] <adaptr> that's because you failed SMTP 101
[21:48:22] <cpm> you say maillog is empty?
[21:48:28] <cpm> !adaptr
[21:48:29] <knoba> cpm: "adaptr" : a small shell script that floods the channel with factoids
[21:48:34] <adaptr> Mail From: me@somewhere
[21:48:48] <adaptr> NO escapees, as that defines the common name, NOT the actual address
[21:49:04] <adaptr> and yes, your mail log is not empty
[21:49:20] <cweis> my maillog is empty, yes
[21:49:21] <adaptr> if it is, you have previously fuckered over your server config by killing syslog
[21:49:29] <adaptr> don't kill syslog
[21:49:31] <cpm> yeah, my guess
[21:49:35] * cpm kills adaptr
[21:49:38] <cweis> syslog...
[21:49:48] <cweis> never did anything to that...
[21:49:53] <adaptr> I did not include myself, so I can't really complain...
[21:49:57] <TaiSHi> cpm: you should kill adaptr_safe
[21:49:58] <cweis> let me see
[21:50:01] <TaiSHi> Or it will reload
[21:50:21] <cpm> TaiSHi, yeah, that's okay, it'll have a fresh pid.
[21:50:26] * cpm doesn't like folks fiddling his pid
[21:50:34] <cweis> but as you mention it...
[21:50:36] <adaptr> TaiSHi: git! to #mysql with you... we don;t do nonsense stuff like that ove rhere
[21:50:40] <cpm> okay, that's enough now, this isn't #squirrelmail
[21:50:43] <cweis> that server is weird anyway...
[21:50:52] <adaptr> cpm: still beats them piddling your... ehm.. fid, I guess
[21:51:05] <cweis> I got no processes between 1 and 1500 something
[21:51:13] <cweis> no syslog, no other stuff...
[21:51:39] <cweis> *scratches forehead* should find out what wrong there, first...
[21:52:10] <adaptr> well, yuh...
[21:52:46] <TaiSHi> while true ; do "for i in `ps fax | grep telnet | awk {'print $1}` ; do kill $i ; done" ; done
[21:52:50] <TaiSHi> aaarr
[21:52:54] <TaiSHi> while true ; do "for i in `ps fax | grep adaptr | awk {'print $1}` ; do kill $i ; done" ; done
[21:52:59] <TaiSHi> (there, I <3 my telnet)
[21:53:16] <cweis> :)
[21:53:23] <cweis> thanks adaptr
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[21:54:49] <shasta> TaiSHi, useless ", incorrect awk syntax, useless inside loop: ps fax | grep adaptr | awk '{print $1}' | xargs kill
[21:54:57] <shasta> sorry, no bonus
[21:55:21] <TaiSHi> awk {'print $1'} works perfectly.
[21:55:41] <shasta> awk {'print $1}`  doesn't, on the other hand
[21:56:03] <TaiSHi> I did not close the '  <.<
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[22:07:03] <TaiSHi> adaptr: see what you have done ?
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[22:07:06] <TaiSHi> cpm left.
[22:07:32] <adaptr> yes, you made him cry and run to his mummy, rob0
[22:07:51] <TaiSHi> He has a mummy?
[22:09:19] <adaptr> in his basement, yes
[22:09:36] <adaptr> casket an' evryt'in
[22:12:41] <TaiSHi> wasn't rob0 afk?
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[22:36:24] <brotig> 504 5.5.4 Encryption required for requested authentication mechanism
[22:36:26] <brotig> damn.
[22:36:45] <brotig> everything is set as it is writting in the script.
[22:36:56] <Zelest> How do you require encryption? :o
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[22:37:00] <Zelest> I do need that. :D
[22:37:04] <sysmonk> Zelest: tls
[22:37:16] <Zelest> Of course, I have TLS support, but how do I reject plaintext mails?
[22:37:40] <sysmonk> er, plaintext auth you mean?
[22:38:03] <Zelest> No, mails being sent in plain text and not being encrypted?
[22:38:19] <sysmonk> Zelest: are you talking about server <-> server ?
[22:38:23] <sysmonk> or client <-> server ?
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[22:38:34] <Zelest> server <-> server
[22:38:41] <shasta> you don't
[22:38:42] <sysmonk> rfc requires you to NOT do that
[22:38:46] <shasta> TLS isn't mandatory
[22:38:47] <Zelest> well
[22:38:50] <sysmonk> it's possible, but it's AGAINST rfc
[22:39:10] <sysmonk> According to RFC 2487 this MUST NOT be applied in case of a publicly-referenced SMTP server. Instead, this option should be used only on dedicated servers.
[22:39:16] <Zelest> the Swedish government require me to encrypt everything from today when we became the third Kina and Korea to monitor everyone :(
[22:39:30] <brotig> http://workaround.org/pipermail/workaround-chitchat/2008-May/000957.html same here. can anyone help me out?
[22:39:32] * Zelest hates democracy from today on. :P
[22:39:38] <sysmonk> Zelest: you can _offer_ all servers to use tls
[22:39:38] <shasta> move out to another country
[22:39:58] <Zelest> shasta, I gladly move to Norway if possible. ;)
[22:40:54] <Zelest> :o
[22:40:56] <Zelest> http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#smtp_tls_security_level
[22:41:05] <Zelest> Isn't that what I'm looking for?
[22:41:12] <shasta> smtp_ == client, smtpd_ == server
[22:41:34] <Zelest> Oh
[22:41:42] <shasta> !smtpd!=smtp
[22:41:43] <knoba> shasta: "smtpd!=smtp" : Postfix smtpd_* and smtp_* configuration parameters are not the same thing. smtpd_ = server while smtp_ = client, the server-side receives mail whilst the client-side sends mail. (smtpd = server = receives mail) (smtp = client = sends mail)
[22:41:48] <Zelest> Well, "encrypt" exists for both ;)
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[22:42:01] <shasta> we told you why you shouldn't do it
[22:42:33] <shasta> sysmonk even quoted postconf manual
[22:42:42] <shasta> ie. where Wietse tells you why you shouldn't do it
[22:42:54] <Zelest> Oh
[22:42:59] <sysmonk> (might be Wietse, might be not :P )
[22:43:10] <Zelest> Sorry, I didn't even notice that.. my bad.
[22:43:23] <sysmonk> oh sure, you guys don't notice everything
[22:43:29] <Zelest> :P
[22:43:51] <sysmonk> or should it be 'anything'?
[22:43:56] <sysmonk> doh, anyway :)
[22:44:10] <Zelest> Use whatever, I won't notice it anyhow. :P
[22:45:41] <brotig> mechanisms = plain login
[22:45:46] <brotig> what wrong with this?
[22:45:50] <brotig> *is
[22:46:10] <brotig> 504 5.5.4 Encryption required for requested authentication mechanism << get this error
[22:46:24] <sysmonk> brotig: noplaintext
[22:46:37] <brotig> ?
[22:46:45] <sysmonk> _sasl_security_options
[22:46:48] <brotig> a little more information please :<
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[22:47:05] <afallenhope> how do I configure PHP to use postfix?
[22:47:15] <sysmonk> are you trying to: 1. make your postfix auth to some server 2. make your clients auth to postfix ?
[22:47:23] <afallenhope> I set the path in the php.ini file :-s
[22:47:26] <brotig> from a client to postfix
[22:47:35] <sysmonk> afallenhope: use mail() funciton. it will invoke 'sendmail' ( by default ) which is a binary of postfix
[22:47:39] <sysmonk> a wrapper that is
[22:47:43] <sysmonk> brotig: then
[22:47:48] <sysmonk> !smtpd_sasl_security_options
[22:47:48] <knoba> sysmonk: "smtpd_sasl_security_options" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Restrict what authentication mechanisms the Postfix SMTP server will offer to the client. The list of available authentication mechanisms is system dependent.
[22:48:06] <shasta> also
[22:48:06] <brotig> and add what?
[22:48:07] <shasta> !smtpd_sasl_tls_security_options
[22:48:08] <knoba> shasta: Error: "smtpd_sasl_tls_security_options" is not a valid command.
[22:48:18] <sysmonk> ;P
[22:48:47] <shasta> !learn smtpd_sasl_tls_security_options as The SASL authentication security options that the Postfix SMTP server uses for TLS encrypted SMTP sessions. This feature is available in Postfix 2.2 and later. See also smtpd_sasl_security_options
[22:48:54] <shasta> !smtpd_sasl_tls_security_options
[22:48:55] <knoba> shasta: "smtpd_sasl_tls_security_options" : The SASL authentication security options that the Postfix SMTP server uses for TLS encrypted SMTP sessions. This feature is available in Postfix 2.2 and later. See also smtpd_sasl_security_options
[22:49:00] <sysmonk> shasta: fail
[22:49:19] <shasta> why? :)
[22:49:22] <shasta> !mx
[22:49:23] <knoba> shasta: Error: "mx" is not a valid command.
[22:49:42] <afallenhope> sysmonk: I do... and it just stalls
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[22:50:23] <sysmonk> afallenhope: try to run echo 'test' | mail your at mail dot com
[22:50:33] <sysmonk> if it works, then default php.ini settings should work too
[22:50:46] <sysmonk> shasta: fail as in from the first time :P
[22:51:16] <shasta> oh ;)
[22:51:23] <afallenhope> sysmonk: do I need to install mailx?
[22:51:40] <sysmonk> afallenhope: using gentoo ? :P
[22:51:43] <afallenhope> no
[22:51:45] <afallenhope> Fedora
[22:51:47] <afallenhope> well
[22:51:50] <afallenhope> Debian atm
[22:51:55] <sysmonk> 'mail' is mostly there by default
[22:51:57] <sysmonk> mail == mailx
[22:52:48] <afallenhope> The program 'mail' can be found in the following packages: * mailx * mailutils
[22:53:03] <sysmonk> afallenhope: eh, sure, stupid distro then
[22:53:17] <sysmonk> afallenhope: no, you don't need to install that, mail is just a simple mail client available in any normal distro
[22:53:29] <sysmonk> afallenhope: you can use echo 'blah' | sendmail your at email dot com
[22:53:31] <afallenhope> sysmonk: it's debian lol.
[22:53:39] <sysmonk> afallenhope: as i said - any NORMAL distro
[22:53:40] <sysmonk> ;)
[22:54:17] <afallenhope> echo 'test' | sendmail admin at gmail dot com
[22:54:21] <afallenhope> I didn't get anyhting. lol.
[22:54:45] <sysmonk> check your logs
[22:54:52] <sysmonk> (the ones on the gmail side :P )
[22:54:56] <brotig> sysmonk that all doenst work for me
[22:55:07] <sysmonk> brotig: sory, what? i missed something?
[22:55:12] <sysmonk> sorry*
[22:55:38] <brotig> i just cannot connect my mailserver using tls.
[22:55:56] <brotig> either imap nor stmp
[22:55:58] <brotig> *smtp
[22:56:06] <sysmonk> imap is NOT smtp
[22:56:10] <sysmonk> and is NOT postfix
[22:56:20] <sysmonk> and talking about smtp - do you want tls or not?
[22:56:27] <brotig> yeah
[22:56:30] <sysmonk> you WANT one ?
[22:56:38] <sysmonk> cause i thought that you don't
[22:56:51] <sysmonk> ( tls != sasl )
[22:57:34] <brotig> damn it. why can i connect from telnet on the inside, but not from the ouside?
[22:57:44] <brotig> that makes no sence to me
[22:57:48] <brotig> *sense
[22:58:06] <brotig> i just did the stuff in the script of workaround.org
[22:58:17] <sysmonk> brotig: your isp might be blocking port 25
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[22:58:32] <brotig> no, he doesn't
[22:58:41] <brotig> in my iptables configuration is clean
[22:58:44] <afallenhope> well sendmail IS working
[22:58:44] <afallenhope> lol
[22:58:56] <afallenhope> i just got an email
[22:59:06] <sysmonk> afallenhope: do you see that mail in the logs as coming from postfix?
[22:59:06] <afallenhope> it has to do with the dns
[22:59:18] <sysmonk> ah, then might be it
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[23:04:19] <brotig> map-login: Aborted login (4 authentication attempts): user=<chris>, method=PLAIN,
[23:04:23] <brotig> :<
[23:05:51] <brotig> : SASL LOGIN authentication failed:
[23:05:53] <brotig> :<
[23:06:50] <shasta> !howto
[23:06:50] <knoba> shasta: Error: "howto" is not a valid command.
[23:06:53] <shasta> !howtos
[23:06:54] <knoba> shasta: Error: "howtos" is not a valid command.
[23:06:57] <shasta> what was that?
[23:07:25] <shasta> oh
[23:07:27] <shasta> !tutorial
[23:07:27] <knoba> shasta: "tutorial" : A very common problem is that some people prefer to follow a step-by-step tutorial that shows them how to setup their mail server without reading the documentation or understanding what they are doing. If something goes wrong, they have no clue whatsoever about where to look for hints, and they sometimes decide to start from scratch using a different tutorial. This is not The Proper Way.
[23:08:58] <wols> oh... I like that factoid
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[23:23:01] <Xcaliber009> lol
[23:23:23] <Xcaliber009> !tutorial
[23:23:23] <knoba> Xcaliber009: "tutorial" : A very common problem is that some people prefer to follow a step-by-step tutorial that shows them how to setup their mail server without reading the documentation or understanding what they are doing. If something goes wrong, they have no clue whatsoever about where to look for hints, and they sometimes decide to start from scratch using a different tutorial. This is not The Proper Way.
[23:23:29] <Xcaliber009> lmao
[23:26:18] <Xcaliber009> that was worth running a second time haha
[23:26:55] <Xcaliber009> are you looking for help shasta, or just goofing off as i am? :-D
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[23:29:08] <depquid> if an email is sent to multiple addresses that are all virtual aliases of a single destination email address, then that address should only receive one copy of the email, correct?
[23:30:09] <sysmonk> depends
[23:31:13] <depquid> on what?
[23:32:04] <depquid> in my case, the final email address is delivered to a local virtual mailbox
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[23:41:23] <brotig> '$ telnet localhost' smtp only gives me '250 the-fqdn' back :(
[23:41:25] <brotig> any ideo?
[23:41:39] <brotig> damn
[23:42:03] <brotig> '$ telnet localhost smtp' .. 'helo domain.bla' smtp only gives me '250 the-fqdn' back :(
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[23:44:06] <Xcaliber009> what result are you looking for back>
[23:44:07] <Xcaliber009> ?
[23:44:21] <rob0> dep, no, not correct. Unless you did something in your delivery agent to block duplicates, you'll get them all.
[23:44:31] <Xcaliber009> are you trying to set up smtp-auth?
[23:45:10] <depquid> rob0: k
[23:51:58] <shasta> Xcaliber009, no, that was for brotig
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[23:54:05] <Xcaliber009> shasta: the tutorial?
[23:54:14] <shasta> yes factoid, yes
[23:54:26] <Xcaliber009> ah lol
[23:54:29] <Xcaliber009> still funny
[23:54:40] <shasta> s/^yes/the/
[23:55:13] <Xcaliber009> might refer him to that guy that sells those computer video CDs that you see on TV every so often
[23:55:23] <Xcaliber009> if he's looking for a tutorial
[23:55:42] <Xcaliber009> doubtful if that guy knows anything about linux systems though
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[23:59:43] <Corty> Hi





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