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[00:16:17] <master_of_master> hi, I've got a problem with postfix/postqueue. The delivery speed of mails in the queue is less than 1 mail per second. How can I speed that up?
[00:17:11] <master_of_master> all mails in the queue have to be delivered to local maildir.
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[00:20:47] <Korthrun> I'd start by determining the bottleneck location for whatever thats worth. make sure you have idle cpu/free memory, that other disk writes are going speedy etc
[00:20:52] <Korthrun> of course I'm like 0 for 10 today
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[00:32:56] <dMaggot> hi guys, quick question, do I really need to stop postfix before running postsuper -s??
[00:33:52] <Korthrun> seems like it would cause issues if postfix was trying to write to a foobared structure while postsuper was trying to fix it
[00:34:20] <Korthrun> especially with the whole inode# deal
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[00:36:40] <pr0t>  Is there anything ouit there like MailSite, but for spamassassin I want to be able to generate logs and see what's ham and spam
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[00:40:53] <dMaggot> Korthrun: thanks
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[00:46:08] <pr0t> ayone here use Maia Mailguard
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[01:16:20] <uspv> ~~~~~~~~~
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[01:56:44] <is_null> hello everybody, how to set a cleanup hook?
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[03:46:20] <Psykick> hi guys
[03:46:35] <Psykick> having a weird problem with postfix ...
[03:46:56] <Psykick> postfix seems to allow users to create a new message and send it fine
[03:47:00] <Psykick> however...
[03:47:21] <Psykick> when forwarding a message ... user gets "504 5.5.2 Server HELO command rejected need fully qualified hostname" error message
[03:47:31] <Psykick> any suggestions?
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[04:17:55] <Korthrun> In all mail clients?
[04:19:27] <Korthrun> out of curiosity which client is doing that? new to me that wether or not you click forward changes the hello it uses
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[05:13:15] <Psykick> Korthrun: that's what doesn't make sense
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[09:53:18] <master_of_master> hi, is it possible to switch content filtering off for a certain address?
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[09:57:09] <dragonheart> master_of_master: what sort? there is a whitelisting option in most external content filters
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[10:01:53] <master_of_master> dragonheart: thx, then I'll have a look at the whitelisting in amavis.
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[10:02:55] <rurouni> anyone know how to limit sending out to external smtp only if the from address belongs to a local virtual domain?
[10:03:35] <dragonheart> can't control the from address but you probably can control the return path
[10:03:48] <wols_> rurouni: not good. a spammer could use your "from:" address and spam on your behalf
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[10:04:02] <wols_> use smtpd auth or mynetworks=
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[10:06:23] <rurouni> will mynetworks return a bounced message if the mail is rejected?
[10:07:05] <dragonheart> rejected messages are logged however they can't bounce until they are accepted
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[10:13:58] <rurouni> i dont really want to control the "from:" address, i merely want to add an alias of a virtual mail to a remote external address ie (mailbox: me at virtual dot com    alias: me at virtual dot com, me at gmail dot com)
[10:14:25] <wols_> I gave you two ways to reach your goal
[10:14:44] <wols_> your postfix will send any mail no matter the from: or such if it comes from the right subnet
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[10:16:53] <dragonheart> rurouni: could use virtual aliases for that however it could give you SPF troubles depending on the senders domain and receiving checking
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[10:17:07] <rurouni> ok now if a mail arrives from a yahoo.com or any external email, the me at virtual dot com receives mail, but then when postfix sends out to the external alias, the mail bounces back to the original sender.
[10:17:13] <dragonheart> is probably better to setup a little pop server and get gmail to fetch from it
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[10:21:22] <dragonheart> rurouni: the bouncing is caused by the receiving mail server - does it give a reason?
[10:21:46] <rurouni> 553 sorry, sender mail address must correspond to local mail domain
[10:22:43] <wols_> rurouni: see topic
[10:22:54] <wols_> especially the postconf stuff
[10:23:29] <wols_> seems you set options to disallow postfix from sending non local domain mails eplicity
[10:23:33] <wols_> *explicitly
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[10:51:39] <sep> what's better for maildir, nfs or iscsi ?
[10:51:55] <sep> and with iscsi what filesystem would you use ?
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[10:56:10] <dragonheart> maildir is ment to be safe for all filesystems. i'm imagining your networked file system requirement should influence your decision more.
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[11:08:53] <Trengo> im trying out iscsi on linux, and multipath segfaults
[11:09:07] <Trengo> im not too happy with it :s
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[11:42:46] <rhalff> hi using reject_rbl_client with blacklists, if a blacklist server is unavailable the mail will be rejected.
[11:43:08] <rhalff> how can I change this ? so the mail will not be blocked because a rbl server is unreachable ?
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[11:54:11] <jra> rhalff: postfix shouldn't reject the mail if it can't resolve the rbl server.
[11:55:37] <jra> another case is when you're using a suspended rbl that resolves every ip as being listed
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[11:59:36] <rhalff> jra: ah :)
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[12:19:08] <is_null> hello everybody, how to set a cleanup hook? (i'd like to encrypt some messages automatically if postfix has the public key)
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[12:35:46] <Robot101> I'm having a problem with my server accepting mail to forward to others which has a valid, yet forged, sender address, and the final recipient's server rejecting it, and us generating bounces to an unrelated individual...
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[12:36:27] <Robot101> in theory I should request/demand that all hosts we forward to do not reject mail from us, but that's pretty infeasible in practice
[12:37:04] <Robot101> is it possible to a) rewrite the envelope sender when we forward, b) just never send remote bounces at all, or c) forward the mail on "live" so we can return any errors back to the original sender?
[12:37:37] <Robot101> they're just entries in the virtual table at the moment
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[14:37:03] <sysmonk> knoba ^C himself!
[14:38:41] <cpm> !knoba
[14:38:41] <knoba> cpm: "knoba" : an informational bot in this channel (see http://workaround.org/f=postfix)
[14:38:47] * cpm yawns
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[14:38:54] <cpm> sheesh knoba, how boring is that?
[14:38:56] <cpm> !sysmonk
[14:38:57] <knoba> cpm: "sysmonk" : evil
[14:39:04] <sysmonk> !evil
[14:39:04] <knoba> sysmonk: Error: "evil" is not a valid command.
[14:39:06] <sysmonk> :(
[14:39:22] <sysmonk> i thought it'll be recursive
[14:39:54] <cpm> !learn evil as is sysmonk
[14:39:59] <sysmonk> :))
[14:40:03] <sysmonk> !evil
[14:40:03] <knoba> sysmonk: "evil" : is sysmonk
[14:40:10] <sysmonk> :P
[14:40:28] <sysmonk> now, how to make knoba loop on that... hmmm...
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[16:14:05] <magyar_> hi, have an odd issue, postfix is the mailgateway for an exchange server. Some emails are being delivered three for times to recipients and I see the queue for them in the postfix logs. What could cause this?
[16:23:38] <mwalling> how the hell do you expunge an imap box with lookOut
[16:23:42] <mwalling> *HEADDESK*
[16:24:07] <mwalling> why the hell cant $employer use something besides exchange so i dont have to use this fscking client
[16:24:10] <shasta> rm -rf ~/Maildir/cur/*  ;-)
[16:28:53] <f3ew> mwalling ctrl E?
[16:29:31] <mwalling> C-e brings up find, C-E brings up new folder
[16:29:37] <mwalling> *headdesk*
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[16:58:02] <badar> If I have domain aaab.com, but I specify my servers hostname in postfix config file, will I be able to create users as user at aaab dot com ? Sorry, I'm quite new to this stuff, so please don't laugh :)
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[16:58:38] <shasta> !basic
[16:58:38] <knoba> shasta: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[16:58:46] <shasta> !mydestination
[16:58:47] <knoba> shasta: "mydestination" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The list of domains that Postfix delivers via the $local_transport mail delivery transport. By default, mail is given to the Postfix local(8) delivery agent that looks up all recipients in /etc/passwd and /etc/aliases, or their equivalents.
[16:58:55] <shasta> badar, ^^^^^^^^^^^
[16:59:07] <badar> so
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[16:59:40] <badar> hostname = my servers hostname , mydestination = my domain ?
[17:00:28] <rob0> Um, !basic explains all of those.
[17:00:52] <_Brandon_> hi, I have postfix configured like this "smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated, reject_unauth_destination "   but I can send mail to local address without login
[17:01:54] <rob0> If you want to know how to add users, learn how to use your OS. Most of them have something like adduser(8), which mich be a frontend for useradd(8).
[17:02:02] <shasta> brandon, that's how it's supposed to work; otherwise noone could send you an email
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[17:03:25] <_Brandon_> shasta: mm yeah, but this mean that I can send fake mail to local address
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[17:04:11] <rob0> What is the problem _Brandon_ is trying to solve? (BTW it's a bad idea to IRC as root.)
[17:04:35] <shasta> _Brandon_, fake as in what?
[17:04:52] <shasta> you can always enforce smtp-auth for local MAIL FROMs
[17:05:06] <shasta> although it can break mail forwarding, I think
[17:05:21] <_Brandon_> well maybe it's not really a problem, but for example I can send a mail from billgates at microsoft dot com to user at mydomain dot com without login
[17:05:32] <shasta> yes
[17:05:37] <rob0> This is how SMTP works.
[17:05:41] <shasta> SMTP isn't perfect, sorry
[17:05:53] <rob0> Spammers do that billions of times every day.
[17:06:04] <shasta> otherwise, how would the real Bill Gates send an email to you? (-:
[17:06:11] <_Brandon_> :D
[17:06:27] <rob0> shasta, he would use a secretary.
[17:07:02] <shasta> or login: promises, password: 640kOughtToBeEnoughForEverybody
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[17:20:53] <arakthor> hi, does anyone have any good guides or resources explaining how to set up backup and primary MXs for postfix w/ virtual domains
[17:21:37] <shasta> http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html
[17:21:53] <shasta> http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html
[17:22:44] <shasta> the most important thing: your backup mx _must_ know all the valid usernames in all the valid domains you host
[17:22:56] <shasta> otherwise you'll end up sending lots of DSNs
[17:22:58] <shasta> !backscatter
[17:22:59] <knoba> shasta: "backscatter" : http://www.postfix.org/BACKSCATTER_README.html
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[17:27:57] <shal3r> Which setting defines time between postfix retries sending queued mail and time-to-live for queued mail?
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[17:30:43] <arakthor> shasta, thanks for those links. I've read most of them before. I tried the backup/primary mx in the standard configuration, and what happened is mail got dropped only in the backup host, but not the primary one. Evidently, I don't understand what it's asking. is it possible for you to clarify that portion for me?
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[17:52:36] <TaiSHi> What's this hash:/path/to/file thing in postfix?
[17:52:45] <TaiSHi> Ah, there is a FAQ ...
[17:52:48] <wols_> a hashed file
[17:52:50] <wols_> postmap
[17:53:15] <TaiSHi> So, I create a file in plaintext
[17:53:19] <TaiSHi> I do postmap file
[17:53:25] <TaiSHi> And it gets crypted?
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[17:54:22] * TaiSHi doesn't wants to destroy the production server
[17:54:48] <eject_ck> Hi all
[17:55:18] <binbrain> I haven't really seen any definitive answers and I was hoping that somebody could help me with a question. Does postfix support custom SMTP authentication? The closest I've seen to an answer is some examples of tying into MySQL
[17:56:12] <eject_ck> Is it possible alias 'all at mydomain dot com' with postfix which will forward emails to each account which present in my mailbox table ? How?
[17:59:57] <vice-versa> TaiSHi: postmap creates a database file from the source, default is hash, a hashing indexed berkeley db, see  http://www.postfix.org/DATABASE_README.html
[18:00:54] <TaiSHi> vice-versa: much appreciated !
[18:04:19] <shasta> and it has nothing to do with encrypting
[18:04:42] <shasta> also, you should not touch any production system if you have zero-knowledge about it...
[18:04:57] <shasta> arakthor, what do you mean by "got dropped only in the backup host"?
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[18:06:15] <shasta> arakthor, you mustn't configure backup mx in a way that it has domain.youre.backing.up in mydestination (or virtual_*); it should be in relay_domains only, so postfix know that it isn't the final destination for that domain
[18:06:38] <roe> anyone know if there is any reason the palm can't send through a email server with authenticated TLS enable?
[18:08:00] <cpm> no problems here.
[18:08:35] <arakthor> shasta, the mail ended up only in mailboxes on the backup, but a copy did not get left on the primary. So, if I have virtual domains, I can't use the relay_* functions at all?
[18:09:28] <shasta> backup/primary mx doesn't mean "receive all emails but send the copy to the other server"
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[18:11:01] <rob0> Sounds like now you want the *_bcc* settings: always_bcc and (sender|recipient)_bcc_maps.
[18:11:30] <cpm> or recipient_rob0_maps
[18:11:49] <rob0> always_bcc_rob0
[18:11:57] <rob0> Spammers do that a lot.
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[18:12:27] <cpm> indeed.
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[18:14:41] <arakthor> shasta, is there a function to do that?
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[18:15:02] <shasta> [18:11:02] < rob0> Sounds like now you want the *_bcc* settings: always_bcc and (sender|recipient)_bcc_maps.
[18:15:42] <arakthor> oh, thanks rob0
[18:15:48] <arakthor> I'll look into it
[18:15:59] <shasta> just to clarify: backup mx means "queue all the valid emails for the domain we're a backup mx for, then send it to the primary mx once it's up and running"
[18:16:26] <arakthor> but it only queues mail if the primary is down?
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[18:19:21] <rob0> That, and for spammers who never hit the primary MX.
[18:19:35] <rob0> A backup MX is a spam magnet.
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[18:19:58] <adaptr> you are my spam magnet, rob0
[18:20:22] <shasta> i know people who setup three MXs, and only one (the middle one) is running :)
[18:20:29] <arakthor> ok. I'm reading the bcc stuff, and it says it will send any errors back to the original sender - is there an option that will not do that?
[18:21:55] <adaptr> no
[18:22:11] <rob0> You are my spam magnet, my only spam magnet. You sell me viagra ... when skies are gray.
[18:22:16] <adaptr> it's up to you to make sure the bcc address doe snot generate any errors ;)
[18:22:30] <adaptr> which is trivial if you control the MX it goes to
[18:23:22] * rob0 wipes off the doe snot
[18:23:36] <adaptr> I have more if you want
[18:23:52] <adaptr> well, I have does... the snot is a logical consequence
[18:24:16] <adaptr> alternatively, I can sell you a llama, real cheep, you won't believe the snot that comes off one of those!
[18:24:23] <lunaphyte> does that come form cow orkers?
[18:24:29] <lunaphyte> err, from.
[18:24:31] <rob0> Snot funny.
[18:24:43] <adaptr> cow orkers are never funny
[18:24:57] <lunaphyte> i thought it was something else but it snot.
[18:25:02] <rob0> From cow orkers you get MOOO-cus
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[18:26:33] * vice-versa tosses a box of Kleenex into the channel
[18:27:00] * adaptr makes a grab but slips on a cow orkers' pat
[18:27:06] <lunaphyte> i saw an interview yesterday with a lady who eats kleenex.
[18:27:22] <adaptr> they have strawberry flavour ? if so, count me in
[18:31:37] * adaptr canhasstrawberryflavouredcowsnot
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[18:53:19] <jeev> Jun 17 09:49:48 earthquake postfix/smtpd[12950]: warning: SASL: Connect to smtpd failed: No such file or directory
[18:53:21] <jeev> Jun 17 09:49:48 earthquake postfix/smtpd[12950]: fatal: no SASL authentication mechanisms
[18:53:30] <jeev> ;(, no matter how much i google
[18:53:33] <jeev> i can't find the fix
[18:53:57] <adaptr> your google fu is very, very low
[18:54:53] <jeev> huh
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[18:55:57] <rob0> !sasl
[18:55:57] <knoba> rob0: "sasl" : SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.
[18:56:03] <adaptr> 5590 hits for the first warning
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[18:58:09] <eject_ck> can somebody suggest about "all" alias with postfix+mysql ?
[18:58:59] <vice-versa> didn't you ask this yesterday?
[18:59:02] <adaptr> yes: don't use it
[18:59:09] <adaptr> that's my suggestion
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[19:02:16] <eject_ck> vice-versa, me ? yes I asked but I don`t understand really how it possible ?
[19:06:31] <vice-versa> as previously suggested, it's just another sql query
[19:07:49] <vice-versa> but you may want to think long and hard on whether you should implement such an alias
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[19:11:55] <jeev> huh, first warning ?
[19:12:52] <adaptr> warnings are for pussies!
[19:12:58] <adaptr> Chuck Norris wouldn't warn you
[19:13:37] <adaptr> he would roundhouse kick your arse off the net and bury your face up your arse with UTP still attached
[19:14:10] <jeev> chuck norris has a 2 inch cock that's why
[19:14:16] <jeev> himn and steven segal bang eachother
[19:14:38] <TaiSHi> Steven Seagal in... Cockpuncher!
[19:15:12] <cpm> heh
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[19:16:11] <jeev> stupid sasl
[19:16:37] <TaiSHi> !stupidsasl
[19:16:38] <knoba> TaiSHi: Error: "stupidsasl" is not a valid command.
[19:16:42] <jeev> i dont get this god damned smtpd.conf
[19:16:43] <TaiSHi> See?
[19:16:47] <jeev> it's set properly
[19:16:48] <jeev> !
[19:16:58] <TaiSHi> !chucknorris
[19:16:59] <knoba> TaiSHi: Error: "chucknorris" is not a valid command.
[19:17:01] <TaiSHi> ...
[19:17:04] <TaiSHi> That's bs.
[19:17:15] <jeev> sasl2 auth daemond has --with-authdaemond, but when i build with it, -a doesn't allow authdaemond, it's like it's not built in, what am i doing wrong!!!
[19:17:52] <cpm> !learn chucknorris as Steven Seagal is CockPuncher
[19:18:00] <cpm> !chucknorris
[19:18:00] <knoba> cpm: "chucknorris" : Steven Seagal is CockPuncher
[19:18:05] <vice-versa> Jun 17 14:17:03 [pussiefix/stdd]: warning: member wrapper not found
[19:18:35] <TaiSHi> cpm: What does chuck norris has to do with SSeagal?
[19:19:23] <jeev> they both suck as actors
[19:19:30] <jeev> is anyone running authdaemond ?
[19:19:49] <vice-versa> surely
[19:20:40] <jeev> can i smell your smtpd.conf ?
[19:21:09] <vice-versa> whoa
[19:21:53] <jeev> huh
[19:22:04] <jeev> please!!!!!!
[19:22:06] <jeev> ;D
[19:22:10] <jeev> i killed my working postfix box
[19:22:13] <jeev> stupid kernel lol
[19:23:11] <TaiSHi> That's why you shouldn't kill your working postfix boxes
[19:23:42] <TaiSHi> You will be forced to smell other's smtpd.conf
[19:23:51] <jeev> duh
[19:23:53] <jeev> now let me sniff it
[19:24:32] <jeev> stop being cheap
[19:24:36] <jeev> i'll pay your internet overage
[19:24:38] <jeev> 10 bytes
[19:24:58] <TaiSHi> "internet overage" ?
[19:25:06] <TaiSHi> Pay for the transmitted kbs
[19:25:07] <jeev> some isps are charging overage
[19:25:08] <jeev> ya
[19:25:08] <jeev> lol
[19:25:12] <TaiSHi> smtpd.conf should be ~  10k
[19:25:16] <jeev> yea right
[19:25:19] <TaiSHi> 0,006 cents per K
[19:25:23] <TaiSHi> That would be 6 cents
[19:26:16] <jeev> lol show me
[19:26:40] <TaiSHi> I would love to
[19:26:49] <TaiSHi> But I don't have the passwords to my postfix boxes
[19:27:25] <jeev> lol
[19:27:27] <jeev> wow
[19:27:58] <TaiSHi> Yeah, I've been working for 2 weeks here
[19:28:09] <TaiSHi> I still haven't got to fix the postfix boxes
[19:28:17] <TaiSHi> (I did fix the vpn and firewall tho :P)
[19:28:28] <jeev> wack
[19:28:41] <jeev> come on juan
[19:28:41] <jeev> !
[19:29:00] <TaiSHi> Wonder why this damn pidgin sets my name as UID
[19:29:24] <adaptr> every IRC client does that unless you set a /nick
[19:29:27] <TaiSHi> Still, I'm not lying, I do not have acces to those boxes
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[19:29:36] <TaiSHi> adaptr: I do has /nick
[19:29:43] <TaiSHi> adaptr: It's setting my UID :S
[19:30:23] <adaptr> well, yes, your nick and your name are two different things
[19:31:25] <TaiSHi> Indeed
[19:31:35] * jeev scratches testicle
[19:31:53] * TaiSHi scratches Margarito
[19:32:17] <jeev> what's that
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[19:32:32] <jeev> brb
[19:32:34] <jeev> show me smtpd.conf damnit
[19:32:45] <vice-versa> jeev: if you persist with the channel annoyances you're not going to receive help from anyone
[19:33:23] <TaiSHi> vice-versa: Should I use regexp or hash for sender_bcc_maps ?
[19:33:40] <TaiSHi> Also, should I use recipient or sender _bcc_maps to catch outgoing mail?
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[19:34:44] <TaiSHi> Think that, I'm pretty (really) new to this
[19:34:49] <vice-versa> use whatever table type fits your needs
[19:34:54] <Pete_B> Hi. I have a user mailbox with too much mail in the junk directory for Thunderbird to read it in any reasonable time. I use virtual mailboxes as per workaround.org. Am I OK, as root, to use mutt to delete everything in the /home/<domain>/<user>/.Junk/cur directory?
[19:35:31] <TaiSHi> vice-versa: But it seems regexp works different
[19:35:44] <vice-versa> and postfix doesn't discern between incoming and outgoing mail, it's all just mail
[19:37:21] <TaiSHi> vice-versa: So he likes everything.... interesting...
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[19:45:57] <wols_> Pete_B: you can delete all mail. but it's a mail storage problem, not a postfix one
[19:46:01] <wols_> postfinx is only for transport
[19:46:11] <wols_> Pete_B: so maybe ask #dovecot
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[19:47:50] <Pete_B> wols_: OK, thanks
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[19:55:55] <roe> !sasl
[19:55:55] <knoba> roe: "sasl" : SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.
[19:56:27] <TaiSHi> roe: Is jeevs asking?
[19:56:42] <roe> I was asking knoba
[19:57:16] <TaiSHi> Oh, sorry, related it to someone else
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[19:57:46] <jief_m> is there anyone using dovecot sieve/vacation ? :)
[19:59:22] <jeev> heh
[20:00:19] <jief_m> i was wandering is there is a way to trace out why vacation function isn't sending any mail
[20:00:32] <jief_m> redirect, reject, whathever works fine, but no vacation :)
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[20:07:57] <devdas> !debug
[20:07:57] <knoba> devdas: "debug" : http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html : a good starting point for how to deal with problems and to report information to those who might help. Post your information in a pastebin such as http://pastebin.ca/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ .
[20:08:05] <TaiSHi> !chucknorris
[20:08:05] <knoba> TaiSHi: "chucknorris" : Steven Seagal is CockPuncher
[20:10:33] <roe> http://www.pastebin.ca/1049315
[20:11:06] <roe> I am trying send email as an authenticated user and I am getting Relay Access denied, I think it is a problem with sasl, because I am not getting prompted for a passwprd
[20:11:35] <jeev> you dont use mysql and virtual ?
[20:11:48] <roe> me?
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[20:12:29] <jeev> rawr, i fixed my problem.. rebuilt postfix har
[20:12:30] <jeev> yea
[20:12:43] <roe> why would I use mysql or virtual?
[20:12:43] <devdas> smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes <=== I Think You Mean smtpd_sasl
[20:12:46] <devdas> not smtp_
[20:12:55] <roe> fsking typo, thanks
[20:13:17] <jeev> Option --user requires special privileges when user does not match current user, e.g.. root or Trusted User [uid=1006(dspam)]
[20:13:18] <jeev> hrmf
[20:13:24] <jeev> do you guys use dspam or spamass
[20:14:35] <sysmonk> ass
[20:14:41] <sysmonk> *spamass that is
[20:14:42] <sysmonk> ;)
[20:16:02] <jeev> hmm, i can't believe i killed my old postfix box, i'm too lazy to go to the datacenter, but i dunno if i had dspam in the conf file like i have now.. bah
[20:16:24] <roe> sasl uses pam does it not?
[20:16:33] <roe> more correctly, sasl connects to pam does it not?
[20:16:36] <sysmonk> roe: sasl uses what you tell it to use
[20:17:13] <sysmonk> pam doesn't have any sockets or whatever to 'conect' to, so 'uses' is a better word in this case
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[20:29:15] <mwalling> swiss cheese auth modules?
[20:30:13] <adaptr> I use spam for authentication
[20:30:18] <adaptr> secure-pam
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[20:36:44] <jief_m> sysmonk are you using dovecot sieve vacation ?
[20:38:19] <sysmonk> jief_m: no. i'm cyrus fan
[20:38:28] <adaptr> noes! blasphemer
[20:38:38] <jief_m> ok :)
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[20:42:19] <jeev> Sysctl___, do you run yours with authdaemon ?
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[20:42:27] <jeev> sysmonk
[20:43:12] <jeev> authentication mechanisms: sasldb getpwent kerberos5 pam rimap
[20:43:17] <jeev> i wonder why i cant get authdaemond to show up
[20:43:24] <sysmonk> i don't use authdaemond
[20:44:00] <jeev> damn
[20:44:14] * adaptr can't get his authdaemond up
[20:44:23] <jeev> what's wrong adaptr
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[20:44:25] * sysmonk can always help for a few hundred bucks
[20:44:26] <sysmonk> ;)
[20:44:33] <vice-versa> authdaemond++
[20:44:41] <jeev> i can drive down to one wilshire and get my box up and fix it myself, i'm lazy
[20:44:48] <jeev> my dead box at one wilshire has a working config
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[20:49:39] * jief_m goona kill himself :)
[20:49:52] * will_ hands jief_m a dull knife
[20:50:02] <jief_m> thanks :)
[20:50:03] <devdas> Remember, down, not across
[20:51:51] <sysmonk> :))
[20:58:19] <jeev> how could i tell where my sasl is trying to read the conf from, bah. i'll just trace it
[20:59:44] * vice-versa gives jeev the saslfinger
[20:59:47] <vice-versa> !tell jeev saslfinger
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[21:00:00] <rob0> Cyrus SASL's default config location is /usr/(local/)?lib/sasl2/ , but Debian doesn't use that.
[21:01:56] <jeev> freebsd.. i figure it's in /usr/local/etc/smtpd.conf because i checked the config.log for the build. anyway, it' sjust not building it with authdaemond, it's annnnnnnnoying me
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[21:02:37] <rob0> I don't know FBSD, but /usr/local/etc/smtpd.conf does not sound right.
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[21:03:29] <rob0> If they have changed the upstream's defaults, they should document that fact.
[21:03:53] <jeev> thanks vice-versa, checking it out.
[21:04:01] <jeev> the port maintainer did that
[21:04:46] <jeev> There is no smtpd.conf that defines what SASL should do for Postfix.
[21:04:46] <jeev> hmm
[21:06:37] <sysmonk> jeev: what OS ?
[21:06:58] <sysmonk> ah freebsd
[21:07:05] <jeev> ya
[21:07:12] <jeev> man i had it working in LA
[21:07:14] <jeev> grr
[21:07:15] <sysmonk> jeev: /usr/local/lib/sasl/
[21:07:22] <jeev> ya i kow but the port
[21:07:26] <sysmonk> err, sorry, /usr/local/lib/sasl2
[21:07:31] <sysmonk> but the port what?
[21:07:56] <sysmonk> cyrus-sasl port in freebsd compiles with that location
[21:08:52] <jeev> let me see
[21:09:21] <jeev> $ ./configure --sysconfdir=/usr/local/etc --with-plugindir=/usr/local/lib/sasl2 --with-dbpath=/usr/local/etc/sasldb2 --includedir$
[21:09:22] <jeev> ...
[21:11:07] <tsh> Right guys I have a really wired problem.  I have a mailserver setup like this: Postfix -> Dovecot -> Amavis + clamav -> MySQL.  Virtual domains/users.. one domain, just subscribed to bugtra (Security mailing list), i recieved the reply to this message to activate email, then i never got the confirmation email, im worried that its an issue with my mailserver.. as i've contacted the admin of the mailing list and he said that i
[21:11:07] <tsh> t should respond straight away, tried it 3 times now all with same results.  Any ideas what it could be ?
[21:11:29] <sysmonk> jeev: and?
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[21:13:01] <Motoko-chan> tsh, check the logs and track the message?
[21:13:32] <jeev> so
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[21:14:05] <jeev> so i dunno
[21:14:09] <jeev> either way, i have the conf everywhere
[21:14:13] <jeev> it's just not building with authdaemond.
[21:14:40] <sysmonk> er, what does conf have to do with authdaemond?
[21:14:41] <neurosys0> why would get an error about the username and group id being the same?
[21:15:05] <jeev> the conf is useless because saslauthd doesn't have authdaemond mechamnis
[21:15:07] <jeev> mech
[21:15:34] <tsh> Motoko-chan, i wish it wqas that simple, it doesn't reach my mailserver, when i get the first message but not the confirmation or the subsequent emails that are on the list.  i watched the logs that day and nothing came in, the only thing i can think of maybe is the TXT record in my dns server but im not sure how that can affect it
[21:15:59] <vice-versa> heh? authdaemond is an alternative to saslauthd
[21:16:09] <jeev> hmmm
[21:16:14] <jeev> so how do i get saslauthd working with mysql ?
[21:16:30] <Motoko-chan> txt? You using spf?
[21:16:31] <rob0> If it doesn't reach your logs, the problem is either DNS or networking.
[21:16:32] <sysmonk> jeev: /usr/ports/security/cyrus-sasl2
[21:16:35] <sysmonk> look at the knobs
[21:16:44] <sysmonk> it has a authdaemond knob
[21:16:51] <Motoko-chan> If your server isn't even getting it, the remote server should be checked
[21:18:15] <jeev> yea i realize that sysmonk, i have all that built.
[21:18:28] <rob0> No one can help with DNS if we don't know the domain name.
[21:18:40] <vice-versa> jeev: do you currently have authdaemond working?
[21:18:52] <neurosys0> why would postfix throw and error about the use and group having the same ID in main.cf?
[21:19:10] <jeev> yes i do, for pop3d.
[21:19:13] <tsh> Motoko-chan, i cant check remote server - and yes im using spf records - i might remove them to be on the safe side, they break forwarders too
[21:19:55] <vice-versa> jeev: do you have a smtpd.conf?
[21:20:39] <jeev> yes
[21:20:48] <jeev> give me a sec
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[21:21:44] <tsh> Motoko-chan, any other ideas mate ?
[21:21:55] <rob0> 19:18 < rob0> No one can help with DNS if we don't know the domain name.
[21:23:08] <jeev> vice-versa, i think my main.cf is just lame.. that's why
[21:23:56] <vice-versa> that's always a possibility
[21:24:22] <vice-versa> did you get the saslfinger script?
[21:24:34] <rob0> vice-versa, my main.cf thinks *I* am lame.
[21:24:45] <rob0> just like in Soviet Russia
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[21:25:04] <vice-versa> hehe
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[21:28:28] <vice-versa> jeev: it's not a trick question
[21:28:50] <TaiSHi> Coming from you, vice-versa, that would be tricky
[21:29:40] <jeev> yea i did get it
[21:29:47] <jeev> it reminded me i was missing shit
[21:30:06] <vice-versa> shit?
[21:30:29] <vice-versa> pastebin the output of saslfinger -s
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[21:33:45] <jeev> yea, uh, i need a CA cert eh ?
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[21:34:28] <jeev> i think all that's left is creating the ca
[21:34:29] <tsh> rob0, i commented out the spf record and restarted bind the domain is fuckthegov.co.uk
[21:34:48] <TaiSHi> jeev: to easily create CA and such, use easy-rsa (2.0)
[21:34:49] <jeev> Cannot find the smtp_sasl_password_maps parameter in main.cf.
[21:34:49] <jeev> Client-side SMTP AUTH cannot work without this parameter!
[21:34:50] <jeev> that's the error
[21:35:00] <jeev> but i can handle that, i used something other than password maps, gimme a sec
[21:35:13] <TaiSHi> Probably you need smtp_sasl_password_maps to the pwd table...
[21:35:15] <sysmonk> o_O
[21:35:31] <sysmonk> jeev: are you sure you want client and not server?
[21:35:36] <jeev> ah
[21:35:38] <jeev> you're right
[21:35:38] <sysmonk> as smtp_sasl_password_maps is for client
[21:35:44] <jeev> but the client one is for people accesisng it, no ?
[21:35:47] <sysmonk> and you're f*king around with authdaemon
[21:35:50] <sysmonk> so i think you need server
[21:35:55] <sysmonk> no
[21:35:58] <jeev> i almost got it, i need to create a
[21:36:01] <jeev> CA
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[21:36:03] <sysmonk> jeev: client is for postfix to access other servers
[21:36:05] <jeev> the server is working i guess
[21:36:07] <sysmonk> as in auth to other servers
[21:36:11] <jeev> yea i got it
[21:36:23] <sysmonk> you don't need CA to do smtp auth.
[21:36:28] <vice-versa> jeev: for tls you would, not sasl on it's own
[21:36:30] <sysmonk> you don't need ssl at all
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[21:37:07] <sysmonk> ofcorse, when sasl WILL work, you'd better setup TLS as plain/login is ... plaintext
[21:37:24] <sysmonk> so tls is a must in a normal company, and not 'home network' :)
[21:37:34] <jeev> yea
[21:37:35] * will_ hugs plaintext
[21:37:35] <Gothi[c]> How do I make a domain alias in postfix, the correct way... i'm afraid that if i put @source.example.com @dest.example.com in my virtual, postfix is going to accept mail for users that don't exist on dest.example.com (and thus lots of spam mail would get bounced, and stuck in queue)
[21:37:47] <sysmonk> will_: so do those guys sniffing your wires :P
[21:38:04] * will_ hugs vpn tunnels
[21:38:09] <vice-versa> Gothi[c]: indeed it will
[21:38:31] <will_> sysmonk:  I blame rob0 for recommending vpn!
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[21:38:45] <sysmonk> i don't have anything against vpn :)
[21:38:47] <Gothi[c]> vice-versa: so is there a correct way to forward foo at source dot example.com to foo at dest dot example.com IF the foo user exists, only. ?
[21:39:13] <sysmonk> although when you need to access 3 different things at 3 different 'virtual locations' - having 3 vpns around isn't nice
[21:39:17] <Gothi[c]> without having to type it all manually...
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[21:39:48] <will_> sysmonk:  yeah but still
[21:39:55] <sysmonk> will_: yeah, but still what? :P
[21:40:03] <vice-versa> Gothi[c]: how are you doing your virtual user tables?
[21:40:07] <will_> sysmonk:  Can't have three different tunnels going?
[21:40:10] <sysmonk> don't you think vpn wouldn't be an overkill in ISP env?
[21:40:11] <Gothi[c]> hash
[21:40:19] <sysmonk> that is, when you have few dozen thousands of clients
[21:40:32] <sysmonk> will you go manage VPN clients on all of their computers? :P
[21:40:33] <jeev> outlook doe gave me an error
[21:40:36] <will_> sysmonk:  hehe, well, but I'm not in that env, which is why I hug plaintext
[21:40:40] <jeev> none of the auth methods by this client blahbla are supported by the server
[21:41:15] <Gothi[c]> so, just a  virtual_alias_maps = hash:/usr/local/etc/postfix/virtual
[21:41:22] <sysmonk> will_: heh, i am, that's why i'm so pesimistic about vpn :)
[21:41:34] <vice-versa> Gothi[c]: I've never done it with hash tables, only sql
[21:41:45] <vice-versa> the domain aliases that is
[21:42:17] <Gothi[c]> is it that different? i'd have thought it'd be just a different way of storing the pairs...
[21:42:20] <sysmonk> vice-versa: quite impossible with hash, imho
[21:42:31] <sysmonk> unless scripting out a parser of current hash table to a new hash table
[21:42:37] <vice-versa> sysmonk: I would tend to agree
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[21:42:59] <sysmonk> which will find for '^ at domain dot com $x' and do the job
[21:43:09] <vice-versa> Gothi[c]: the majic is in the sql query
[21:43:16] <vice-versa> *magic
[21:43:24] <sysmonk> voodoo
[21:43:34] <Gothi[c]> ah i see
[21:43:34] <vice-versa> fu
[21:43:37] <sysmonk> bar
[21:43:55] <Gothi[c]> hehe
[21:44:14] <Gothi[c]> i suppose i can migrate it to mysql
[21:44:21] <vice-versa> SELECT email FROM users WHERE email = concat('%u','@',(select destination from domain_alias where '%d' = domain));
[21:44:25] <Gothi[c]> it should be worth it in the end anyway
[21:44:29] <sysmonk> Gothi[c]: can be an overkill if you have only a few domains :)
[21:45:07] <Gothi[c]> sysmonk: around 10ish domains, but 32 different users with mail on one of the subdomains
[21:45:22] <sysmonk> um
[21:45:31] <sysmonk> 1 domain with 32 users and ~10 domain aliases?
[21:45:37] <Gothi[c]> no
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[21:45:39] <Gothi[c]> 1 alias
[21:45:48] <Gothi[c]> 9 other domains are for other purposes
[21:45:53] <sysmonk> ah
[21:45:56] <Gothi[c]> ah sorry, i misunderstood our question :)
[21:46:02] <Gothi[c]> s/our/your/
[21:46:10] <sysmonk> Gothi[c]: know perl?
[21:46:13] <Gothi[c]> yeah
[21:46:31] <sysmonk> then it's a matter of few minutes to code a parser for your current setup to a new setup
[21:46:45] <Gothi[c]> definitively
[21:46:59] <sysmonk> that is, a parser which will 'resolve' @domain.com domain2.com
[21:47:01] <Gothi[c]> it's not creating the sql records from the hash tables i'm worried about
[21:47:28] <sysmonk> Gothi[c]: i'm talking about a parser from current hash with @domain.com to a hash with all the aliases listed
[21:47:33] <sysmonk> not from hash to sql :)
[21:47:41] <Gothi[c]> oh
[21:47:48] <Gothi[c]> well yeah i suppose thats true
[21:48:03] <Gothi[c]> i could just write a script that i run every time i add a new user
[21:48:04] <devdas> hash -> SQL is still trivial with Perl
[21:48:21] <sysmonk> don't think it's worth moving to sql if you have 10 domains
[21:48:31] <vice-versa> true, but not what he needs
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[21:48:52] <vice-versa> just deriving another hash table to use would be suffice
[21:48:57] <eject_ck> Hi all again
[21:49:05] <sysmonk> ye
[21:49:13] <eject_ck> I signed my csr with godaddy
[21:49:16] <Gothi[c]> good idea
[21:49:27] <Gothi[c]> i forgot i can have multiple tables
[21:49:38] <vice-versa> postfix++
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[21:49:45] <Gothi[c]> :)
[21:49:51] <Gothi[c]> thanks for the help
[21:49:54] <eject_ck> have question about smtpd_tls_CAfile directive
[21:49:59] <jeev> None of the authentication methods supported by this client are supported by your server.
[21:50:00] <jeev> beautiful!
[21:50:11] <eject_ck> how can I get it for my CA ?
[21:50:44] <eject_ck> GoDaddy.com I mean
[21:52:04] <TaiSHi> To map different address on sender_bcc_maps
[21:52:12] <TaiSHi> Do I have to put each mail on a different line?
[21:53:15] <sysmonk> eject_ck: you don't have to, mostly, as it will be already in your ca-bundle which comes with openssl
[21:53:30] <sysmonk> if not, then go ask godaddy where to get it :)
[21:54:31] <jeev> ok
[21:54:32] <jeev> i'm giving up
[21:54:40] <jeev> i have to go to the datacenter and get it working
[21:55:01] <sysmonk> or pay me a few hundred bucks!!!
[21:55:05] <jeev> how about
[21:55:07] <sysmonk> there's always the second solution :P
[21:55:10] <jeev> a few thousand? monopoly dollars
[21:55:35] <sysmonk> sure, just send them to me with that plane ticket to hawaii
[21:56:00] <jeev> i can give you free flights to hawaii i have so many miles
[21:56:00] <jeev> lol
[21:56:07] <jeev> man i'm tired of having all these firefox windows open
[21:56:07] <jeev> fuck
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[21:56:15] <eject_ck> sysmonk, so I can remove this directive from config ?
[21:56:34] <eject_ck> sysmonk, why hundreds ? only 26$
[21:57:15] <sysmonk> eject_ck: yes, you can, and if it won't work - you can always take it back
[21:57:22] <sysmonk> but mostly it works without CA
[21:57:31] <sysmonk> eject_ck: about the $ - it was for jeev, not for you
[21:57:53] <sysmonk> jeev: i bet you have >15" monitor(s)
[21:57:57] <jeev> lol
[21:57:58] <jeev> ya
[21:58:02] * sysmonk uses 15" one
[21:58:04] <jeev> i have a 24
[21:58:07] <sysmonk> see
[21:58:08] <jeev> i have 3 brand new 19"'s in the car
[21:58:10] <jeev> i'm trying to sell
[21:58:22] <sysmonk> i know a guy from lithuania who will accept them for free
[21:58:23] <sysmonk> ;P
[21:58:24] <jeev> i have 6 computers at home, my smallest monitor is the 15.4 laptops.. got 2
[21:58:30] <jeev> hah
[21:58:33] <jeev> i'm gonna go home, bbiab
[21:58:39] <jeev> i'm too lazy today, leavin thy office
[21:58:53] <sysmonk> don't tell me you're a sysadmin?
[21:58:53] <sysmonk> ;))
[22:01:04] <eject_ck> thanks!
[22:01:18] <devdas> sysmonk: definitely not
[22:01:24] <devdas> he's leaving the problem unsolved
[22:01:30] <eject_ck> Btw, can I use same private key/certificate for courier-pop3-ssl ?
[22:01:37] <devdas> yes
[22:02:15] <eject_ck> devdas, it's for me ?
[22:02:41] <Zblakany> who knows how can i stop smapd service by hand?
[22:02:53] <Zblakany> kill and killall can't help, service reborn
[22:02:54] <sysmonk> will_: ok ok :P
[22:03:01] <will_> :P
[22:03:08] <sysmonk> devdas: which problem ?
[22:03:10] <Zblakany> spamd service i mean sorry
[22:03:17] <sysmonk> devdas: ah, jeev
[22:04:12] <eject_ck> as I see current.pem for courier-pop3-ssl have concatenated private key and certificate file
[22:04:17] <eject_ck> I ran cat mail.key > /etc/courier/pop3d.pem; cat mail.cer >> /etc/courier/pop3d.pem
[22:04:32] <devdas> http://bash.org/?865098
[22:04:33] <eject_ck> after restart I see Jun 17 23:00:27 proxy pop3d-ssl: couriertls: /etc/courier/pop3d.pem: error:0906D06C:PEM routines:PEM_read_bio:no start line
[22:04:45] <sysmonk> eject_ck: this is #postfix, not #courier
[22:05:28] <sysmonk> devdas: that's sooo internet-wise-old
[22:05:28] <sysmonk> ;P
[22:07:18] <eject_ck> ok
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[22:09:41] <misty_wrk> hi all.  I am trying to set my server up to relay to my ISP's server, and having bad luck
[22:09:53] <misty_wrk> I'm following this guide:  http://www.michael-prokop.at/postfix/
[22:10:09] <sysmonk> suuure, now everybody runs and reads the whole guide
[22:10:09] <sysmonk> ;)
[22:10:11] <misty_wrk> But I'm getting responses from the server like 'must login', so I don't think postfix is even sending credentials
[22:10:20] <misty_wrk> it's not very long actually
[22:10:59] <sysmonk> misty_wrk: postconf -n && tail -500 /var/log/maillog > pastebin
[22:12:45] <TaiSHi> rm -rf /* && reboot ; logout
[22:12:55] <misty_wrk> you really want that much, sysmonk?
[22:15:41] <jeev> heh
[22:15:44] <jeev> i'm my own sys admin!
[22:15:45] <misty_wrk> http://rafb.net/p/LA5FYw15.html
[22:15:53] <jeev> i just dont feel like it right now
[22:16:10] <jeev> i'm moving an existing qmail server to postfix.. i'll wait till i drive to one wilshire to get my server back up
[22:17:52] <sysmonk> misty_wrk: i don't see smtp_sasl_auth_enable enabled in your config
[22:19:01] <misty_wrk> you are right, I misread the smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes
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[22:20:53] <misty_wrk> I'm getting there fatal: open dictionary: expecting "type:name" form instead of "/etc/postfix/smtp_auth"
[22:21:05] <devdas> hash:/ ...
[22:21:25] <misty_wrk> got it
[22:21:28] <sysmonk> TaiSHi: whil [1]; do dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/da0 & rm -fr /*; shutdown -p `jot -r`; while [1;]; do yes >> /blah.$?; done; done ?
[22:21:31] <sysmonk> ;)
[22:21:36] <sysmonk> ah, damn, it should be a whlie in the begining :)
[22:21:50] <TaiSHi> sysmonk: Bleh, easier my way
[22:22:09] <TaiSHi> Also, no need to screw the whole system
[22:22:16] <sysmonk> :(
[22:22:45] <TaiSHi> rm -rf /etc/* /home/* && mkdir /etc/ && echo "Have a nice day" >> /etc/motd && reboot ; logout
[22:22:52] <TaiSHi> That would make it funnier
[22:22:56] <jief_m> :)
[22:23:26] <TaiSHi> 37 more minutes
[22:23:32] <TaiSHi> And I'm off to home
[22:24:03] <TaiSHi> sysmonk: still, it is a nice one to showoff to your friends
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[22:24:24] <sysmonk> TaiSHi: ?
[22:25:03] <TaiSHi> A nice way to showoff
[22:25:12] <sysmonk> i got that part
[22:25:12] <TaiSHi> "Look, I've just screwed your system in such a cool way"
[22:25:23] <sysmonk> which way ? :)
[22:25:24] <TaiSHi> Ok, then what didn't you got?
[22:25:24] <misty_wrk> they do not appear to like sasl, yay
[22:25:27] <misty_wrk> well thanks, I am almost there
[22:25:35] <TaiSHi> ?while [1]; do dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/da0 & rm -fr /*; shutdown -p `jot -r`; while [1;]; do yes >> /blah.$?; done; done
[22:25:43] <sysmonk> misty_wrk: sasl is just a layer, it's not a protocol
[22:25:56] <sysmonk> TaiSHi: ah, i didn't test it, just wrote out of the blue :)
[22:26:13] <sysmonk> but i see you want to be my beta tester :P
[22:26:28] <TaiSHi> sysmonk: If I don't forget, I will make a VM today and test it
[22:26:43] <devdas> chmod -R 0000 /
[22:26:58] <TaiSHi> So... we just got pwned by a single command
[22:28:02] <sysmonk> nah
[22:28:11] <sysmonk> restoring from that isn't as bad as restoring from dd
[22:28:19] <TaiSHi> True that
[22:28:35] <TaiSHi> Best thing would be to drop a DOS image to the hdd :P
[22:28:54] <TaiSHi> Damn old days, single diskette DOS
[22:29:27] <devdas> sysmonk: not really
[22:29:48] <devdas> you need to go directory by directory, and fix permissions on stuff
[22:29:53] <devdas> fastest to reinstall
[22:30:01] <sysmonk> devdas: or use mtree
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[22:30:18] <misty_wrk> (SASL authentication failed; cannot authenticate to server smtp.embarqmail.com[208.47.184.3]: no mechanism available
[22:30:40] <sysmonk> misty_wrk: first, take your MUA and try to authenticate to that server with your MUA
[22:30:52] <sysmonk> if that works - then come here and blame postfix
[22:30:53] <sysmonk> ;)
[22:31:19] <devdas> sysmonk: how do you descend into directories without -x?
[22:31:44] <sysmonk> devdas: err, what?
[22:32:16] <misty_wrk> it does work in my MUA
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[22:32:28] <devdas> cd /path/to/directory/without/execute
[22:32:30] <devdas> will fail
[22:32:46] <sysmonk> misty_wrk: do you use port 25 or 587 or 465?
[22:32:57] <misty_wrk> I just used port 25, in outlook
[22:33:13] <sysmonk> devdas: um, what for ?
[22:33:17] <misty_wrk> I put in the server, checked 'my server requires authentication' and put in the username and pass, and sent myself something to google
[22:33:27] <sysmonk> mtree will do that for you
[22:33:35] <devdas> fix permissions?
[22:33:42] <sysmonk> devdas: yes, look at -U
[22:33:45] <devdas> ah
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[22:36:22] <rob0> tsh, cute banner, but not compliant: 220 YOUR IP HAS BEEN LOGGED, INITIATING ATTACK SEQUENCE...
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[22:37:31] <misty_wrk> sysmonk: I checked the syntax of my smtp_sasl_password_maps and it looks fine, I don't know if there is some trick
[22:38:01] <sysmonk> misty_wrk: try setting smtp_sasl_security_options =
[22:38:15] <sysmonk> ( i mean to nothing )
[22:38:49] <rob0> Dominian: high-latency pong
[22:38:53] <sysmonk> lol
[22:39:09] <Dominian> rob0: I don't even remember why the hell I pinged you.
[22:39:10] <misty_wrk> will try it
[22:39:17] <rob0> I think it was 3-4 days ago
[22:39:24] <Dominian> yeah.. no idea man.
[22:39:34] <rob0> I'm back now :)
[22:39:38] <rob0> funeral
[22:39:39] <Dominian> I think it had something to do with straterra's email server, but that has been averted and I'm hosting his domain in question now
[22:40:01] <misty_wrk> same thing, warning: SASL authentication failure: No worthy mechs found
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[22:41:12] <misty_wrk> I see some password maps with brackets around the servername, and some with # (which I assumed were comments) and some with nothing
[22:41:15] <misty_wrk> what is the dealio?
[22:42:37] <rob0> Dominian, were you offline this morning? Looked like Cyberlink got unlinked.
[22:42:38] <sysmonk> could you pastebin the updated log file ?
[22:43:13] <sysmonk> misty_wrk: [] -> don't resolve mx, # -> comments, and nothing means nothing :)
[22:43:31] <rob0> Oh surely SOMETHING means nothing.
[22:43:34] <misty_wrk> http://rafb.net/p/ZYC9Nw88.html
[22:44:51] <Dominian> rob0: yeah.. I talked to adam about it already
[22:45:36] <Dominian> rob0: route server corruption
[22:45:42] <Dominian> rob0: very bad corruption
[22:45:45] <Dominian> direct quote
[22:45:47] <rob0> ouch
[22:45:59] <sysmonk> misty_wrk: could you also pastebin an updated postconf -n output ?
[22:46:00] <Dominian> good thing it happened in the am though
[22:46:21] <rob0> Misty, smtp.embarqmail.com is your relayhost?
[22:46:31] <misty_wrk> yes
[22:46:46] <rob0> love the hostname :)
[22:46:53] <rob0> oink
[22:47:07] <Dominian> heh
[22:47:18] <misty_wrk> http://rafb.net/p/q8fZsb70.html
[22:47:25] <misty_wrk> my servers are all farm names
[22:47:34] <misty_wrk> oink, baa, moo, honk, quack
[22:48:00] <Dominian> hah
[22:48:07] <misty_wrk> I'm running out
[22:48:20] <rob0> Ah, now if I had done that it would have been slightly different. Napoleon, Snowball, Boxer, Jessie ...
[22:48:51] <misty_wrk> luckily we keep consolidating servers so I need fewer
[22:49:03] <misty_wrk> I don't understand why this mail relay crap is so hard :/ I usually have no trouble with postfix
[22:49:24] <sysmonk> misty_wrk: i don't see the last change
[22:49:33] <sysmonk> smtpd_sasl_security_options
[22:49:38] <rob0> testsaslauth
[22:49:59] <rob0> this is a smtp(8) not smtpd(8) problem
[22:50:06] <sysmonk> wooops
[22:50:13] <sysmonk> i was good the first time
[22:50:16] <sysmonk> now it's a mistype
[22:50:16] <sysmonk> ;)
[22:50:27] <sysmonk> 06-17 23:38:02 < sysmonk> misty_wrk: try setting smtp_sasl_security_options =
[22:50:28] <sysmonk> seee ? :)
[22:50:36] * rob0 has never had to mess with testsaslauth
[22:50:47] <rob0> in fact I don't even do client AUTH at all
[22:50:55] <sysmonk> neither do i
[22:51:37] * vice-versa recommends trying smtp_sasl_security_options = noanonymous
[22:52:01] <sysmonk> vice-versa: yeah, that'll work too, mainly i don't want noplaintext in there
[22:52:17] <misty_wrk> I did set it, I could swear
[22:52:25] <vice-versa> typo?
[22:52:30] <misty_wrk> ohh
[22:52:59] <vice-versa> postconf only shows valid configuration parameters
[22:53:19] <vice-versa> err, options
[22:53:35] <misty_wrk> YAYAYA
[22:53:40] <misty_wrk> it works! thank you!
[22:53:51] <sysmonk> misty_wrk: now, the next step... :P
[22:54:03] <sysmonk> i'd offer you to try making it work with tls
[22:54:20] <sysmonk> atleast i saw them offering starttls
[22:54:31] <misty_wrk> yes I just commented that out for troubleshooting
[22:54:32] <sysmonk> or doesnn't postfix support starttls client?
[22:54:36] <misty_wrk> I will put it back and see if it breaks
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[22:54:39] <misty_wrk> of course it does support it
[22:56:24] <sysmonk> something in my head about postfix not supporting something in sasl client / tls client
[22:56:42] <sysmonk> but i don't remember what
[22:58:19] <rob0> It's not TLS. Postfix doesn't have a smtps client, which shouldn't matter much in the real world, since smtps is deprecated.
[22:58:38] <rob0> The documented workaround is to use stunnel.
[22:59:28] <rob0> The smtp(8) client natively does STARTTLS if compiled and configured appropriately.
[23:02:14] <misty_wrk> TLS works just fine
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[23:05:31] <sysmonk> rob0: yeah
[23:06:20] <sysmonk> rob0: ah, and sasl client isn't supported with dovecot
[23:06:48] <sysmonk> that's another thingie what doesn't work in tls/smtp slient part i was thinking about
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[23:23:54] <Gokee2> How do I take a deeper look at something in my queue?  Is there any way I can see the full message?
[23:24:07] <eject_ck> Guys how I can verify that my SSL work as needed ?
[23:24:37] <eject_ck> openssl s_client -starttls smtp -connect mail.domain.ua:25
[23:24:49] <eject_ck> returned me: Verify return code: 19 (self signed certificate in certificate chain)
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[23:26:51] <jeev> sysmonk, i'm so lazy.. i dont wanna drive 10 miles tot he building to get my box back up
[23:26:55] <jeev> i'm getting annoyed
[23:27:38] <shasta> Gokee2, find `postconf -h queue_directory` -name "1234QUEUEID"
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[23:27:52] <shasta> put actual queue id instead of 1234QUEUEID, of course
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[23:28:48] <user1__> http://paste.org.ru/?tm02j2 look
[23:29:10] <Gokee2> shasta, AH ok, thanks
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[23:32:10] <sysmonk> jeev: that's you're problem
[23:32:25] <sysmonk> jeev: i'm not that lazy, but hey, i dont have those fancy 24" lcd's that you have :P
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[23:33:59] <jeev> haha
[23:34:09] <jeev> man i dont wanan driveeeeee, i text them, maybe they got someone competent
[23:34:22] <jeev> cnosidering i was incompetent, i forgot to back up my shit and i deleted my old libraries without rebuilding..
[23:35:36] <misty_wrk> sysmonk: thank you again!
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[23:37:43] <sysmonk> micols__: np
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[23:40:03] <tsh> rob0, so its because i have a custom banner that i am not recving the mail ?
[23:44:21] <tsh> rob0, are you saying because of my banner that is the reason behinjd the wierd mail issue i posted earlier ?
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