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[00:06:36] <geek_cl> anyone use amavis ?
[00:07:00] <mwalling> sure, people in #amavis do
[00:09:25] <geek_cl> yes..nobody anwser
[00:09:27] <geek_cl> :(
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[01:43:01] <LoOoD> There a way to bounce a message if it gets a 451 from the remote smtpd?
[01:44:25] <shasta> what?
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[01:47:26] <LoOoD> basicly when sending mail to yahoo, i get a 451 at the end DATA and postfix just retries sending again. Is there a way to have that msg discard so it won't try again?
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[02:13:20] <shasta> it will try for some (maximal_queue_lifetime) time and then will bounce it back to the sender
[02:13:29] <shasta> man postsuper if you want to remove something manually from the queue
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[03:32:55] <Gothi[c]> Can any one explain me this:
[03:32:57] <Gothi[c]> Jun  9 20:34:23 nd10579 postfix/smtpd[12166]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from unknown[203.81.44.246]: 450 4.1.8 <bounce_verify at poseidon dot fragnetics.com.fragnetics.com>: Sender address rejected: Domain not found; from=<bounce_verify at poseidon dot fragnetics.com.fragnetics.com> to=<snickerdoodle@linker
[03:33:21] <Gothi[c]> did it just reject that mail because it can't resolve that ip?
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[03:50:40] <checkers> yes
[03:50:48] <Gothi[c]> damn
[03:50:55] <checkers> it's a condition you can set in smtpd_sender_restrictions
[03:51:07] <Gothi[c]> ok so i'm just being too strict then
[03:51:36] <Gothi[c]> i have: permit_mynetworks, reject_unknown_recipient_domain, permit
[03:51:40] <Gothi[c]> in smtpd_sender_restrictions
[03:51:47] <checkers> yes, it's the second one there
[03:52:00] <checkers> if you remove that, you may as well comment out the rest of the line
[03:52:02] <Gothi[c]> wouldn't that be the sender domain?
[03:52:21] <checkers> whoops
[03:53:01] <Gothi[c]> i'm rejecting stuff that's not for any valid recipients on my server, as i should. but it seems, from my logs, that a mail is being rejected for an unknown sender domain, not recipient
[03:53:25] <checkers> it's possibly an inbuilt postfix setting, I'm not sure
[03:54:15] <Gothi[c]> can i override it? i kind of need to receive that mail
[03:56:43] <Gothi[c]> ... lemme try increasing the debug level
[03:56:48] <checkers> check all the smtpd_restrictions
[03:56:59] <checkers> I'm reasonably sure it's a restriction in one of them
[03:57:29] <Gothi[c]> debug should tell me which restriction i guess
[03:57:40] <Gothi[c]> here's the whole lot: http://rafb.net/p/ZXAP1377.html
[03:59:16] <Gothi[c]> maybe if i put poseidon.fragnetics.com.fragnetics.com in my /etc/hosts it will be fixed temporarily
[03:59:23] <Gothi[c]> unless postfix insists on using a nameserve
[03:59:27] <Gothi[c]> *nameserver
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[04:03:49] <Gothi[c]> ah that worked
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[04:55:00] <allan> I have set reject_unauth_destination in smtpd_recipient_restrictions before various reject_rbl_client checks
[04:55:15] <allan> still I see postfix reject mail because of blacklisting, even though the mail is not for my users
[04:55:20] <allan> how can that be?
[04:55:30] <allan> I thought the smtpd_recipient_restrictions checks were done in order
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[07:33:31] <matehortua> hi, a simple problem my mail is comoing out with the sender     sender at localhost dot domain.com, i dont want iit with that localhost, i need it sender at domain dot com
[07:35:36] <matehortua> myhostname = $mydomain
[07:35:44] <matehortua> mydomain = domain.com
[07:36:03] <Verilium> Look into $myorigin.
[07:36:16] <Verilium> http://www.postfix.org/basic.html#myorigin
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[07:37:43] <matehortua> myorigin = $mydomain
[07:39:50] <matehortua> it should be sending  @domain.com , where is it getting @localhost.domain.com
[07:41:39] <matehortua> postconf -n     at    http://pastebin.com/m2373f0d2
[07:42:32] <matehortua> :( help i cant figure it out and it must be a little detail
[07:46:31] <matehortua> help please
[07:46:45] <checkers> did you postfix reload?
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[07:47:17] <matehortua> i diid restart it
[07:53:14] <matehortua> masquerade_domains  =  domain.com       is the answer
[07:53:20] <matehortua> tnx anyway
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[08:04:44] <matehortua> bye
[08:04:49] <matehortua> going to sleeeo
[08:04:52] <matehortua> p
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[08:57:53] <Loady> hi. is there a way to make only forward lookups, based on /etc/hosts on connect?
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[09:10:37] <f3ew> Loady, smtp_host_lookup ?
[09:10:45] <f3ew> oh wait, for incoming?
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[09:38:10] <Loady> f3ew: indeed. sorry about the slow response.
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[10:18:52] <f3ew> Loady, that's entirely upto your host resolver
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[10:55:20] <js_> how can i uhm.. run some kind of script for a specific address? so i can register bounces for a newsletter application for instance
[11:01:57] <f3ew> js_ aliases(5
[11:01:59] <f3ew> )
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[12:42:53] <daemon> get guys im using postfix admin and a mysql backend
[12:43:00] <daemon> for some reason im getting unable to create mailbox!
[12:43:02] <daemon> for some users but not others
[12:43:08] <daemon> I googled and found a bug.. and an apparent fix
[12:43:12] <daemon> but it doesnt seem to work
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[13:13:15] <_bt> any error messages etc?
[13:13:40] <daemon> _bt, 'Unable to create mailbox'
[13:13:45] <daemon> but it said it added it to the mysql hash table
[13:14:08] <daemon> this is what the directorys look like
[13:14:28] <daemon> this one worked (added succesfully)
[13:14:30] <daemon> mail# ls personal/
[13:14:32] <daemon> cur			dovecot-uidlist		dovecot.index		dovecot.index.cache	dovecot.index.log	maildirsize		new			tmp
[13:14:34] <daemon> this one failed:
[13:14:41] <daemon> mail# ls anna/
[13:14:41] <daemon> cur	new	tmp
[13:14:50] <daemon> i cant even find a log to tell you of any errors
[13:14:55] <daemon> maillog shows nothing intresting
[13:15:09] <_bt> diskspace?
[13:15:11] <killerchicken> Hi, I'm subscribed to a mailing list with two different addresses. One is using a commercial mailing system, and the other one is a postfix that I set up. When someone sends a gpg-signed message to the list, my postfix installation somehow messes up the signature so it shows as invalid. I tried searching the web, but couldn't find a good solution. Do you have a pointer where I could find further information, or would anyone be willi
[13:15:11] <killerchicken> ng to look at the messages and see what might be causing the problem? Thanks!
[13:15:33] <daemon> _bt, 1.2TB free
[13:16:01] <_bt> hmmm
[13:16:08] <_bt> unsure :*(
[13:16:34] <f3ew> killerchicken, Postfix doesn't mess with the body
[13:16:36] <daemon> _bt, everyone is postfixadmin is one of the largests lumps of junk I think I have ever worked with, no logging to it at all. do you know of any alternatives
[13:17:22] <_bt> i would write my own
[13:17:34] <_bt> i havent since my install uses about 10 accounts
[13:17:39] <_bt> 3/4 domains
[13:17:47] <killerchicken> f3ew: yes, the header's are somehow altered so that openpgp/mime signed messages show an invalid signature
[13:18:34] <_bt> daemon: http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-etch/ , search for Ronny , there is a small script to get you started
[13:18:46] <daemon> _bt, ah cheers :)
[13:19:42] <daemon> _bt, how is that going to help me, this server is freebsd :P
[13:19:50] <daemon> _bt, and its in use at the moment
[13:19:59] <_bt> whoops!
[13:27:22] <killerchicken> f3ew: it looks like the headers are reordered and split into two lines
[13:27:30] <killerchicken> (some of the headers)
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[14:16:44] <The_SNiFF> how come my postfix uses an MX100 instead of an MX10 server?
[14:16:49] <The_SNiFF> i mean, how can i find out
[14:17:26] <Bad_UID> when MX10 is not available
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[14:20:22] <The_SNiFF> Bad_UID only then?
[14:20:28] <Bad_UID> yes
[14:20:43] <Bad_UID> or MX10 reject connections
[14:20:46] <The_SNiFF> thanks
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[14:29:06] <pepetrueno> is anyone awake? i need some help
[14:29:17] <pepetrueno> lots of help**
[14:29:34] <killerchicken> pepetrueno: try asking your question
[14:29:39] <killerchicken> also mind the topic.
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[14:30:30] <pepetrueno> should i past postconf?
[14:30:35] <pepetrueno> paste*
[14:31:29] <cpm> http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc
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[14:37:34] <pepetrueno> im tryin to send mails through smtp in leopard server. im getting this error logs from the smtp thing mostly about postfix: /usr/libexec/postfix/local: bad command startup -- throttling    warning: private/local socket: malformed response     warning: process /usr/libexec/postfix/local pid 2617 exit status 1      warning: open active 5BBEB77AD5: no such file or directory      warning: qmgr_active_corrupt: save corrupt file queue active id 2823428: no
[14:37:53] <pepetrueno> what should i do?
[14:42:49] <cpm> use a pastebin please, and paste the lines *before* the bad command startup -- throttling. Also, has this server *ever* worked?
[14:43:43] <pepetrueno> error log in here:   http://rafb.net/p/j21nya49.html
[14:43:59] <pepetrueno> it hasnt worked
[14:44:11] <pepetrueno> cpm: its the first time im installing it
[14:44:29] <pepetrueno> trying* to install it
[14:44:33] <cpm> that link you sent doesn't go anywhere
[14:44:52] <cpm> this is OSX leopard server, yes?
[14:45:07] <pepetrueno> cpm: yeah its leopard server
[14:45:29] <pepetrueno> and the link its supposed to be good
[14:45:36] <cpm> well, it isn't.
[14:45:54] <pepetrueno> hmm sorry let me correct it
[14:46:14] <pepetrueno> http://rafb.net/p/J21NyA49.html
[14:46:19] <cpm> Okay, is there any mail that you care about on that box?
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[14:47:27] <pepetrueno> no
[14:47:45] <cpm> stop the postfix process, run the command 'postsuper -d ALL' and clear the logs, then run postfix again, and pastebin the output from the clean, new, logs, and let's see what you have. Also, run the command postconf -n and pastebin the output.
[14:48:04] <cpm> please
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[14:48:30] <pepetrueno> ok let me do that
[14:49:59] <cpm> k
[14:52:06] <pepetrueno> ok theres nothing new in the log but heres postconf  http://rafb.net/p/vr3LZp95.html
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[14:54:23] * cpm looks
[14:54:46] <pepetrueno> btw i missed the frist a copyin but its there
[14:55:39] <cpm> is postfix running?
[14:56:31] <pepetrueno> it sasys so
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[14:57:47] <pepetrueno> ok something coming up in the log
[14:58:44] <pepetrueno> http://rafb.net/p/nXL9MV61.html
[15:00:44] <robtone_> your /var partition has space?
[15:01:37] <pepetrueno> it should i just installed the OS...but plz tell me how i check it and i will.
[15:02:37] <robtone_> dunno whether macosx has "df"
[15:04:24] <pepetrueno> im new into unix & mac os
[15:05:02] <cpm> what's the output of the command du ?
[15:05:14] <cpm> sorry, df
[15:05:18] <cpm> like robtone_ said
[15:05:32] <robtone_> pepetrueno, http://switch.richard5.net/2006/08/19/fatal-open-lock-file-pidmasterpid/
[15:06:03] <cpm> pepetrueno, please note, that despite the propaganda put out by Apple, this isn't trivial stuff.
[15:07:02] <pepetrueno> ok... df:  http://rafb.net/p/YtSAVK70.html
[15:07:07] <cpm> otoh, folks following the normal 'workgroup' setup for OSX Leopard server, *should* have it up and working. What setup profile did you choose?
[15:07:33] <cpm> k, you have plenty of space
[15:08:37] <cpm> did you check that link that robtone_ sent you? Looks like a pretty good clue,  that.
[15:08:50] <pepetrueno> im tryin to copy it
[15:09:33] <cpm> k
[15:10:56] <pepetrueno> ok im on it...
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[15:14:55] <pepetrueno> ok i had it running twice it seems
[15:15:26] <pepetrueno> changed it as it said in the site...im going to restart now & see what happens
[15:15:30] <pepetrueno> brb
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[15:24:58] <pepetrueno> ok theres no errors now while running it...now how can i test it?? how should i test it?
[15:26:35] <checkers> is it possible to have mulltiple address extensions?
[15:26:44] <checkers> as in, more than one allowed character
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[15:33:54] <pepetrueno> ok i tried to send a mail heres the log...   http://rafb.net/p/hr4alA20.html
[15:37:51] <pepetrueno> any1?
[15:38:30] <sysmonk> the requested document is not found O_O
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[15:40:06] <sysmonk> pepetrueno: you have your port 25 firewalled?
[15:40:15] <killerchicken> What all could be changing headers? In particular, the header Content-Disposition and Content-Type are in different order, and "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii" was changed to "Content-Type: text/plain;
[15:40:15] <killerchicken> 	charset=us-ascii"
[15:40:33] <killerchicken> this is as far as I was able to track down my openpgp-signed mail issue
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[15:42:00] <pepetrueno> sysmonk: it supposedly not...i checked my modems firewall and opened it but as far in mac oc i cant find where to be sure its open
[15:43:12] <sysmonk> pepetrueno: try telnet'ing to some kind of mail server port 25
[15:43:20] <sysmonk> if it doesn't work - then you're firewalled
[15:43:28] <sysmonk> might be that you're firewalled by your ISP, and not your router
[15:46:00] <pepetrueno> im sure my isp doesnt block it...cuz ive used that port...if it is firewalled its from mac os...btw it might be aswell that "_www"  as it aint a username in my domain
[15:47:53] <pepetrueno> i dont know how to change that since im sending that mail from a php form
[15:52:33] <cpm> we still can't see the pastebin pepetrueno
[15:52:41] <cpm> you sent another invalid url
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[15:56:04] <robtone_> pepetrueno, no offence: first get a book for mac os x, then get a book for apache and then get a book for PHP and then for postfix
[15:56:40] <robtone_> after you have read those you will understand, that mac os x provides no fire and forget busniness service nor some other fire and forget internet service
[15:56:42] <cpm> well, that and read them
[15:56:59] <cpm> fire?
[15:57:26] <pepetrueno> sorry guys :s couldnt see the channel windows
[15:58:10] <pepetrueno> ok the valid url should be   http://rafb.net/p/hr4alA20.html
[15:58:35] <cpm> No, that url is not valid
[15:58:57] <pepetrueno> this one then
[15:59:18] <pepetrueno> http://rafb.net/p/uFqLQn54.html
[16:00:48] <cpm> looks to me like you are blocked outbound on port 25.
[16:01:11] <cpm> what do you get when you telnet gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com 25
[16:01:11] <cpm> ?
[16:01:33] <cpm> I get a banner
[16:01:50] <robtone_> no, I don't want ads
[16:02:30] <pepetrueno> i telent from safari??
[16:02:32] * cpm sets up the 're-training' table for robtone_
[16:02:47] <cpm> pepetrueno, I think you need to go back and re-visit your unix basics
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[16:03:20] <pepetrueno> how should i get a banner then??
[16:03:25] * robtone_ adjusts the book recommendations: how to start your startup, and how to employ employees
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[16:03:38] <cpm> again, despite propaganda to the contrary, running mail servers isn't trivial, some knowledge must be assumed, telnet is very very very basic
[16:03:48] <cpm> in fact, it's about as basic as it gets
[16:04:13] <pepetrueno> it sasys operation timed out
[16:04:22] <pepetrueno> that i cant assign requested address
[16:04:24] <robtone_> pepetrueno, most probably firewalled outbound
[16:04:54] * cpm agrees
[16:05:02] <cpm> or blocked upstream by isp
[16:05:04] <robtone_> "that i cant assign requested address"
[16:05:06] <robtone_> means what?
[16:05:20] <pepetrueno> that it aint finding it from that port
[16:06:02] <robtone_> pepetrueno, "ping www.google.com"?
[16:07:00] <pepetrueno> robtone: then??
[16:07:07] <robtone_> pepetrueno, output?
[16:07:19] <robtone_> lloks here like "64 bytes from 209.85.129.104: icmp_seq=0 ttl=243 time=14.882 ms"
[16:07:26] <pepetrueno> yeah
[16:07:34] <robtone_> okay, we have a route.
[16:08:02] <robtone_> pepetrueno, "telnet www.ek-muc.de 25"
[16:09:41] <pepetrueno> its tryin
[16:10:03] <robtone_> and it fails
[16:10:24] <pepetrueno> it just says tryin 62.255.182.35...
[16:10:34] <pepetrueno> and yeah it just failed
[16:11:22] <robtone_> ask your administrator to open destination port SMTP (25) for outbound
[16:11:58] <pepetrueno> it should be open by now
[16:12:13] <robtone_> then retry "telnet www.ek-muc.de 25"
[16:12:29] <robtone_> side-note: please only allow port 25 outbound for your mailserver
[16:13:13] <robtone_> all other computers in your network must not be able to connect to port 25 outbound
[16:13:43] <robtone_> unless they ask you and tell you why, and you confirmed their background-knowledge
[16:13:48] <pepetrueno> that means keeping port 25 close to them
[16:13:50] <robtone_> right
[16:14:14] <pepetrueno> telnet keeps failing
[16:14:33] <robtone_> your IP is?
[16:15:29] <pepetrueno> 189.141.190.45
[16:16:22] <robtone_> redo that telnet thing
[16:17:23] <robtone_> 16:17:03.365356 IP 189.141.190.45.50267 > 62.225.182.35.23: R 2504193124:2504193124(0) ack 0 win 0
[16:17:37] <robtone_> how to tell macosx telnet the port?
[16:17:59] <pepetrueno> dunno
[16:18:50] <robtone_> you did use "telnet www.ek-muc.de 25"?
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[16:19:03] <pepetrueno> yeah
[16:19:19] <sysmonk> are you sure?
[16:19:21] <sysmonk> ;)
[16:19:28] <pepetrueno> well...www.google.com
[16:19:39] <pepetrueno> stil doin it with www.ek-muc.de
[16:19:42] <sysmonk> o_O
[16:19:44] <pepetrueno> same result
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[16:20:35] * robtone_ gives up, colleagues waiting
[16:21:09] * cpm gave up already.
[16:21:54] * pepetrueno cant give up
[16:22:33] <`k>  I want to give up but don't know how
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[16:23:00] <sysmonk> rm -fr //
[16:23:02] <sysmonk> ;)
[16:23:15] <sysmonk> that will solve all the give up problem
[16:23:19] <sysmonk> problems*
[16:23:30] <`k>  nope didnt help
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[16:25:29] <`k>  shutdown -t 1 -h works
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[16:26:33] <cpm> kicking the crap out of the box until it stops making any noises at all, then smashing it with a sledge hammer until it is in at least 42 pieces will also have the desired result.
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[16:27:49] <cpm> hrmm, wisdom perhaps
[16:30:26] <DreamThief> hi everybody
[16:31:14] <cpm>
[16:32:19] <DreamThief> I've got into trouble with my postfix daemon cause it seems to ignore the inet_interfaces option in main.cf
[16:32:34] <DreamThief> it doesnt listen at 213.216.4.122 on port 25
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[16:34:21] <cpm> DreamThief, the output of postconf inet_interfaces ?
[16:34:42] <cpm> and pastebin the output of netstat -nuat | grep 25 please
[16:34:59] <DreamThief> okay
[16:35:41] <DreamThief> uh
[16:35:49] <DreamThief> it says loopback-only ...
[16:35:58] <DreamThief> but what the hell ...
[16:36:00] <cpm> what says loopback only?
[16:36:12] <DreamThief> postconf inet_interfaces
[16:36:12] <DreamThief> inet_interfaces = loopback-only
[16:36:14] <cpm> k
[16:36:27] <DreamThief> but in main.cf ...
[16:36:48] <DreamThief> inet_interfaces = 213.216.4.122
[16:37:00] <cpm> stop postfix, then start it.
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[16:37:23] <DreamThief> its still loopback opny
[16:37:25] <DreamThief> only
[16:37:39] <cpm> did you stop it, then start it? or did you do something else?
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[16:42:12] <f3ew> postconf -e inet_interfaces == all && postfix stop && postfix start
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[16:46:44] <cpm> morning f3ew
[16:48:21] <f3ew> lo
[16:51:27] <pepetrueno> ok im sure port 25 aint firewalled what could it be then?? why it aint connecting?? log:   http://rafb.net/p/v4GdT418.html
[16:52:58] <cpm> pepetrueno, " im sure port 25 aint firewalled"
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[16:53:06] <cpm> what makes you so sure?
[16:53:34] <seekwill> because thumbs said so
[16:53:36] <cpm> it most certainly does look like you are blocked outbound on port 25
[16:54:08] <pepetrueno> yeah but i opened the port at my router and i think i diabled the mac ox firewall
[16:54:29] <pepetrueno> i also read that mac os firewall doesnt care bout outbound conections
[16:54:46] <pepetrueno> and i've used before that port with my isp
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[16:57:51] <pepetrueno> thats why im so sure
[17:01:43] <cpm> <pepetrueno> and i've used before that port with my isp
[17:01:45] <cpm> what does that mean?
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[17:02:48] <pepetrueno> that ive open that port b4 in another computer using windows and i was able to send mails through smtp at that port
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[17:03:33] <pepetrueno> so my isp aint blocking it
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[17:12:06] <tuxick> any proper ISP should block :25 outgoing
[17:12:11] <tuxick> or get blacklisted
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[17:13:10] <pepetrueno> hmm
[17:13:22] <pepetrueno> its the best i can get
[17:13:30] <pepetrueno> btw i have some new logs
[17:13:52] <pepetrueno> http://rafb.net/p/MoftCK95.html
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[17:23:46] <pepetrueno> http://rafb.net/p/OHZTdP47.html  plz help with last line...
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[17:27:32] <pepetrueno> how do i change postfix to use another port??
[17:31:17] <seekwill> tuxick: That would put antispam out of business!!!
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[17:31:53] <dafe> hi all
[17:32:03] <hparker> !cheatsheet
[17:32:03] <knoba> hparker: "cheatsheet" : http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt : A HOWTO for pre-DATA spam control.
[17:32:07] <tuxick> seekwill: RBLs to pretty much the same
[17:32:09] <dafe> i get this error starting my postfix
[17:32:14] <dafe> chdir(/usr/libexec/postfix): No such file or directory
[17:32:22] <tuxick> no way my systems would accept a connection from comcast or the like
[17:32:37] <cpm> nor anyone's I know.
[17:32:56] <seekwill> I block mail from yahoo. They spam me too much!
[17:33:03] <cpm> will accept the connection, but will probably reject the mail
[17:33:20] <f3ew> dafe reinstall
[17:34:07] <dafe> already done same prblem
[17:35:28] <noneo> pepetrueno: what for? reinjection?
[17:35:56] * f3ew => home
[17:36:14] <pepetrueno> noneo: dont know what u mean with reinjection
[17:36:38] <pepetrueno> noneo: its just to see if my isp is blocking port 25
[17:37:37] <noneo> pepetrueno: its not usual run postfix on different port. You won't receive normail mail. If you need to exchange e-mails with other software (postfix -> amavis -> postfix on another port), look at http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/README.postfix
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[17:37:54] <rob0> !relayhost
[17:37:56] <knoba> rob0: "relayhost" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The default host to send non-local mail to when no entry is matched in the optional transport(5) table. When no relayhost is given, mail is routed directly to the destination.
[17:38:14] <rob0> ^^ the ONLY workaround for port 25 blocking
[17:38:14] <noneo> pepetrueno: log in wherever on The Internet, and telnet to your server on port 25.
[17:38:34] <cpm> pepetrueno, can you telnet to port 25 on *ANY OTHER* mail server? No? Then you are blocked. The End.
[17:39:14] <rob0> well, you can always talk to the ISP and upgrade to a commercial account
[17:39:38] <pepetrueno> cpm: ok then...i still want to be able to send emails...
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[17:39:49] <pepetrueno> i dont need to recieve
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[17:39:54] <cpm> you can't
[17:40:08] <pepetrueno> i cant?
[17:40:10] <seekwill> pepetrueno: Spamming? :)
[17:40:10] <cpm> you need to speak with your ISP about this.
[17:40:15] <rob0> It is better to give, than to receive. --ROKSO
[17:40:20] <hparker> lol
[17:40:28] <cpm> they may allow you to relay off their smtp server. You need to speak to them about this.
[17:40:51] <vice-versa> dafe: are you using a config that was basically a cut and paste from a tutorial?
[17:40:55] <noneo> pepetrueno: if have 25 blocked, nobody send you an email. Other port can't advertise - nobody would know you listening on the port.
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[17:43:07] <pepetrueno> noneo, i dont mind...i just need to send
[17:43:27] <pepetrueno> seekwill: its just for a mailing list...not quite spamm...
[17:43:40] <cpm> not quite, , hehe
[17:43:49] <pepetrueno> =P    xD
[17:44:20] <seekwill> pepetrueno: I was just kidding. But for a mailing list, consider using hosted services. You will more likely get more inbox receptions. Plenty of free places too
[17:44:21] <hparker> And they're all double opted in
[17:44:23] <vice-versa> that and his ip is listed at spamhaus :)
[17:45:17] <cpm> heh
[17:45:28] <pepetrueno> :$
[17:45:46] <vice-versa> PBL 189.128.0.0/11
[17:45:48] <pepetrueno> so how do i change the port??     8)
[17:46:00] * cpm completely agrees with seekwill. Mailing list management is not for the faint of heart, it is more  like a postmaster 301 task
[17:46:08] <rob0> You have been answered. Are you paying attention?
[17:46:21] <seekwill> 301?
[17:46:48] <rob0> As in, upper division, not introductory level.
[17:46:53] <seekwill> oh lol
[17:47:03] <seekwill> I was thinking error codes...
[17:47:08] <cpm> yeah, graduate level classes
[17:47:19] <seekwill> 550, 400, 250... etc..
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[17:49:15] <Ramattack> wop helo!
[17:51:35] <pepetrueno> my isp is telling me that i should use port 2525 for smtp how do i change it on postfix?
[17:51:51] <vice-versa> O.o
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[17:51:58] <Ramattack> does anyone know the default concurrency limit for sin master.cf specify a different port
[17:52:00] <catlee> hello
[17:52:12] <Ramattack> sorry
[17:52:30] <catlee> is there a way to recursively expand out aliases in a postfix aliases file from the command line?
[17:52:32] <Ramattack> pepetrueno, change the limit in master.cf of the smtpd line daemon and postfix check and postfix restart
[17:52:57] <Ramattack> which is the default destination concurrency limit for relay transport?
[17:53:10] <Ramattack> default_destination_concurrency_limit?
[17:54:29] <vice-versa> catlee: man postmap and see the -s option
[17:55:17] <catlee> vice-versa, that doesn't seem to expand the aliases
[17:55:20] <rob0> vice-versa: but that's not like it works in sendmail. It would be very difficult to do in Postfix, which is why it hasn't been done.
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[17:58:04] <pepetrueno> ramattack: that doesnt work
[18:03:02] <Ramattack> sure it does... check postfix doc mate, I ensure you it works check master.cf doc... you just need to do in first parameter of the smtpd daemon line change smtp for address:port
[18:03:11] <rob0> haha
[18:04:31] <rob0> !tell pepetrueno relayhost
[18:04:44] <rob0> postconf.5.html#relayhost
[18:05:11] <rob0> 2525, strange
[18:05:39] <killerchicken> hm, what settings would induce a rewrite of mail headers? Still fighting with the gpg corruption issue :(
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[18:15:52] <Ramattack> see later
[18:15:54] <Ramattack> bye
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[18:16:43] <cpm> rob0, if you allow expn, that should do it (expand aliases)
[18:16:48] <cpm> does postfix not support expn?
[18:17:09] <cpm> duh! "Postfix does not support EXPN. "
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[18:17:22] <cpm> just as well, it's like one of the first things I turn off in sendmail
[18:21:42] <vice-versa> catlee: maybe a shell script with postmap -q in a while loop
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[18:22:57] <catlee> yeah, I ended up writing a python script to do it
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[18:32:17] <pepetrueno> how can i change the port postfix uses to send mails??
[18:35:01] <mwalling> no
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[18:36:23] <pepetrueno> i cant?
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[18:37:54] <mwalling> explain the why
[18:40:41] <pepetrueno> the why what?
[18:40:49] <rob0> Yes you can, and I ANSWERED
[18:41:01] <sysmonk> DID YOU?!
[18:41:06] <sysmonk> HI ROB0
[18:41:08] <sysmonk> ;P
[18:41:12] <cpm> yeah rob0  but your answers don't count
[18:41:17] <rob0> ah
[18:41:21] <rob0> that must be it
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[18:50:35] <pepetrueno> ok now im getting this http://rafb.net/p/azFcMu51.html
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[18:51:20] <sysmonk> hm, is this the same guy who was talking about not being able to connect to port 25 from macos a few hours ago?
[18:51:33] <sysmonk> that is, ~4-5 hours ago
[18:52:22] <vice-versa> yes
[18:52:31] <sysmonk> oh my
[18:52:38] <sysmonk> pepetrueno: hey, wanna hire a sysadmin?
[18:53:05] <sysmonk> rob0: what do you think about a !hire !job or !sysadmin factoid ? :P
[18:53:42] <pepetrueno> sysmonk. no ty
[18:53:51] <sysmonk> pepetrueno: as you wish
[18:54:13] <vice-versa> !whore
[18:54:13] <pepetrueno> sysmonk: some help would be nice
[18:54:15] <knoba> vice-versa: Error: "whore" is not a valid command.
[18:54:15] <rob0> sure, that sounds like a good idea
[18:54:50] <sysmonk> pepetrueno: didn't guys help you in 4 hours?
[18:55:13] <pepetrueno> sysmonk: im still fighting with this tryin to get it to send emails
[18:55:18] <sysmonk> think about it, maybe the real problem is in _you_ and not in postfix if you couldn't fix it within 5 hours with help from guys who do this for a living?
[18:55:46] <pepetrueno> sysmonk: yeah maybe its me...still wanna learn...and want to get this done
[18:56:05] <sysmonk> pepetrueno: just a suggestion - macos isn't not the os for servers..
[18:56:32] <sysmonk> run a real os , or atleast in virtualization mode
[18:56:45] <pepetrueno> its mac os server
[18:57:00] <sysmonk> "it's windows server" wouldn't help here too
[18:57:08] <cpm> sysmonk, it's fine
[18:57:16] <cpm> it's osx leopard server
[18:57:32] <sysmonk> oh suuure
[18:58:46] <cpm> meaning, lots of folks use it.
[18:58:53] <cpm> sad, but true.
[18:59:19] <sysmonk> cpm: sorry, but mac os won't be a "server os" for me in the near future
[18:59:54] <cpm> sysmonk, you are not of the body!
[18:59:57] <cpm> all hail Steve Jobs!
[19:00:06] <sysmonk> btw, why did they call it so?
[19:00:13] <sysmonk> i thought it'll be called iServer
[19:00:35] <sysmonk> which is compliant with iRack
[19:00:49] * cpm loves the iRack
[19:00:51] <cpm> :)
[19:00:53] <sysmonk> ;P
[19:01:24] <sysmonk> pepetrueno: that seems like an error from amavisd, look in amavisd logs
[19:01:37] <sysmonk> and, amavisd is that way -----> #amavisd
[19:01:45] <sysmonk> or was it #amavisd-new
[19:02:01] <sysmonk> ah it's #amavis !
[19:02:16] <pepetrueno> ok thx
[19:02:24] * vice-versa biffs decaying apples at sysmonk
[19:02:31] <cpm> heh
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[19:02:57] * sysmonk catches them and stores em for later
[19:03:12] <sysmonk> vice-versa: just try and say anythin ;P
[19:03:31] <vice-versa> :p
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[19:13:39] <coondog> relay=spamfilter, delay=1921, delays=1921/0.36/0/0.06, dsn=4.3.5, status=deferred (mail system configuration error)
[19:13:41] <coondog> anyone know why that is?
[19:14:31] <sysmonk> who's spamfilter?
[19:14:50] <sysmonk> i mean the service :)
[19:15:05] <coondog> it's a script so that I can implement spamassassin
[19:15:41] <sysmonk> then the script isn't working
[19:15:55] <coondog> oh ok
[19:16:28] <coondog> sysmonk, it was working before hrmrmrmr...
[19:16:55] <vice-versa> before what?
[19:17:11] <cpm> before the comet hit
[19:17:16] <cpm> oh wait!
[19:17:20] <cpm> that hasn't happened yet.
[19:17:34] <cpm> forget you ever read that.
[19:17:36] <sysmonk> vice-versa: 'before i changed half of my system, then migrated it to another server with a different os'
[19:18:06] <sysmonk> but i _assure_ you, nothing changed!
[19:18:30] * vice-versa puts the kool-aid away
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[19:27:06] * action09 hi
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[19:38:18] <neurodamage> sysmonk, could this be the issue? warning: truncated macro reference: "${sender)"
[19:38:34] <neurodamage> /usr/bin/spamc | /usr/sbin/sendmail.postfix -i "$@"
[19:38:34] <neurodamage> exit $?
[19:38:39] <neurodamage> that's all the script does
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[19:41:34] <neurodamage> the part I'm having the biggest trouble iwth is having email forward to .Junk folder because I'm using courierimapd and I have no idea where I'm supposed to forward junk mail to?
[19:41:41] <neurodamage> Maildir/.Junk/cur?
[19:42:02] <vice-versa> neurodamage: ${sender} *not* ${sender)
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[19:44:37] <neurodamage> vice-versa, that's what I get for using a small font lol, thanks again
[19:44:44] <vice-versa> np
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[19:57:04] <neurodamage> what's the command to requeue all items in the queue?
[19:57:25] <padde> neurodamage: do you mean send them out?
[19:59:02] <neurodamage> yeah well they've been queueing up and there's about 600 of them in the queue i'd like to flush out :)
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[19:59:09] <padde> neurodamage: postqueue -f (flush)
[19:59:20] <neurodamage> there's a ton of spam and I'm trying to see if spamassassin will workout for me in this instance :(
[19:59:48] <Yoda--> higuita, what can be the cause of a postfix not saying hello (but opening the the port) ?
[20:03:21] <neurodamage> padde, how do I configure postfix/spamassassin to make sure that junk email is forward to Maildir/.Junk/new?
[20:03:45] <padde> neurodamage: neither postfix nor spamassassin can do that
[20:04:06] <padde> neurodamage: you need something else for that task, for example procmail or sieve
[20:04:18] <neurodamage> yeah I was going to say I have procmail configured to do that.
[20:04:20] <padde> neurodamage: spamassassin only tags the mails
[20:04:27] <neurodamage> padde, ok that works
[20:04:34] <padde> neurodamage: well then where's the problem? ;)
[20:05:00] <neurodamage> procmail is currently configured accoridng to my web interface to pass through /usr/bin/spamassassin and then deliver it to the Maildir/.Junk/new, which is the rule after it's been passed to /usr/bin/spamassassin
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[20:06:42] <neurodamage> padde, and it's configured that way but in my thunderbird client I'm getting the X-Spam tags, and levels but it's not auto pushing those into the Maildir/.Junk/new folder for me currently, which I'd like it to do you know?
[20:07:11] <padde> neurodamage: then it seems it does *not* work (procmail)
[20:08:03] <neurodamage> yeah well actually it's configured to X-Spam-Status: Yes
[20:08:35] <neurodamage> and most of these have spam tags in them but it seems there's scores attached lol, and they're definitely spam that's got low scores? should I just set X-Spam-Level: ***?
[20:08:39] <neurodamage> what's the regex for that?
[20:08:42] <neurodamage> \***+?
[20:08:55] <padde> neurodamage: see http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/UsedViaProcmail
[20:09:05] <padde> neurodamage: something like * ^X-Spam-Level: \*\*\*\*\*
[20:09:31] <padde> neurodamage: but you can also change spamassassin's configuration to set the X-Spam-Status tag on a lower score, if that's desired
[20:10:29] <neurodamage> no i mean I'm mostly getting spam here, anything that's spam should go into the spam box :)
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[20:11:08] <padde> neurodamage: sure
[20:11:17] <neurodamage> in the example you linked me they're waiting for it to be level 15 before it's spammed :), so how do I set that to be well level 3 or more ?
[20:11:24] <neurodamage> just \*\*\*?
[20:11:38] <padde> neurodamage: i'd recommend to also have an 'unsure' folder where lower rated spam goes in... it's much easier to check that way
[20:11:52] <neurodamage> padde, ok, that's a good idea
[20:12:40] <padde> neurodamage: there are plenty of howtos on the net... you're not the only one getting spam mail ;)
[20:13:24] <neurodamage> yeah I know, I was just wondering what was going on there.
[20:13:37] <neurodamage> is there a howto on how to train spamassassin using some sort of huge database of spam content/rules?
[20:13:41] <padde> neurodamage: also think about setting up a script that re-trains spamassassin based on user feedback through false-positives and false-negatives folders (if you're using bayes) - that way you can train your filter, which will give you very good results some time later
[20:13:46] <neurodamage> or am I just going to keep having to train it based on the junk mail I'm getting?
[20:14:10] <neurodamage> padde, yeah I'm doing what you suggested I actually have a script I run on those using bayes :), to train spamassassin
[20:14:39] <padde> neurodamage: you must train it with your own mail. each person's mail (and spam mail) is different
[20:15:27] <padde> neurodamage: in our company we have a bayes database for each user. it's the only way the results can be good for everybody
[20:15:38] <neurodamage> huh, interesting.
[20:15:46] <neurodamage> that's a good point then :).
[20:15:51] <neurodamage> I'll keep that in mind for the next phase.
[20:16:03] <neurodamage> I actually filled out some online win this for free stuff to get practice with spam :).
[20:16:17] <padde> lol
[20:16:32] <sysmonk> neurodamage: sadly, but those aren't spam
[20:16:42] <cpm> if you ask for it, it ain't spam
[20:16:46] <sysmonk> yup
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[20:17:01] <neurodamage> heh
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[20:17:30] <padde> when i want to run some spam tests, i just put my user account as an alias of my boss' for some time - he gets multiple spams per minute ;)
[20:17:48] <neurodamage> that's awesome :)
[20:17:56] <sysmonk> padde: just alias abuse@ and postmaster@ to your mail
[20:18:01] <sysmonk> and hostmaster@
[20:18:01] <neurodamage> we're using a something I'm not sure what to filter all the spam email currently
[20:18:15] <neurodamage> heh
[20:18:50] <padde> sysmonk: i can't, we don't have our own domain ;) all mail comes in through our headquarter's domain
[20:18:55] <sysmonk> o_o
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[20:19:51] <padde> sysmonk: some corporate identity stuff... all people in the worldwide group have the same @domain in ther mail address...
[20:20:08] <sysmonk> padde: oh my
[20:20:22] <sysmonk> padde: and, what do you do when there are 10 people with the same name/lastname ?
[20:20:40] <padde> sysmonk: heh, i also wondered about that before ;)
[20:21:04] <padde> sysmonk: but interestingly i never encountered anyone with a number in their mail address yet, although we're 900 people
[20:21:23] <sysmonk> padde: tell me your name and last name
[20:21:33] <sysmonk> i'll try to get to your company
[20:21:41] <sysmonk> with the same name/lastname as yours
[20:21:41] <sysmonk> ;P
[20:21:43] <sysmonk> and we'll see
[20:21:46] <padde> sysmonk: heh
[20:22:06] <padde> sysmonk: i guess they'll just add a 2 before the @ ;)
[20:22:36] <sysmonk> doh
[20:22:36] <padde> but that's none of my business
[20:22:46] <sysmonk> then we need 68 more people before i'll go to your company
[20:23:26] <sysmonk> although i hate my long email addie
[20:23:35] <sysmonk> i use alex@ that's all :P
[20:24:37] <padde> actually internally we have something like city.country.domain - but it's only in the VPN's dns servers, not public, thus not usable for mail from outside
[20:25:16] <sysmonk> may i ask what corporation is it?
[20:25:24] <padde> ok guys, got to get some sleep now... cu
[20:25:44] <padde> sysmonk: STAR (based in switzerland)
[20:26:08] * sysmonk doesn't know it
[20:26:32] <padde> mostly translation services
[20:26:47] <sysmonk> oh
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[20:35:04] <neurodamage> is there a way to store everything for postfix in mysql so that you can just move the database to a new server in the future?
[20:35:42] <neurodamage> I know that I can use google, I'm just wondering what your "experiences" have been with postfix+mysql?
[20:35:49] <neurodamage> where you store the mail in a virtual mailbox?
[20:35:58] <neurodamage> and moving the current mailbox system to the new one?
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[20:36:38] <Nokio> Hi all, I have a centos5 server configured with postfix to send mail to an external smtp for mail delivery... since yesterday it does not work anymore i get the following error in my log "relay=none, delay=310, status=deferred (delivery temporarily suspended"
[20:37:32] <cpm> sounds like your external isn't accepting mail from you anymore.
[20:37:45] <neurodamage> Nokio, post your master.cf, that's where it specifies how it's passing
[20:37:47] <neurodamage> or what cpm said :)
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[20:38:05] <Nokio> if i unplug my centos and use an other computer it work using the same smtp
[20:38:13] <Nokio> let me get out my master.cf
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[20:39:53] <Nokio> there we go http://pastebin.com/d1fb55aea
[20:40:33] <Peasant> Hi, I have a problem with /etc/postfix/transport
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[20:40:59] <Peasant> Our Postfix / Linux server has always been main mailserver, but we have an Exchange server rightnow.
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[20:41:11] <Peasant> I want to put user-by-user on the Exchange server.
[20:41:49] <Peasant> So I'm trying larry at question dot com smtp:[192.168.1.66] in transport
[20:42:12] <Peasant> when I use the domain there, it works and all e-mails are transferred to Exchange server, but the e-mail address doesn't work
[20:42:17] <Peasant> anybody an idea?
[20:46:59] <Nokio> cpm i tried with an other computer and it work so the smtp is still working :p i pasted the pastedbin few minutes ago for you an neurodamage thanks in advance!
[20:47:42] <Peasant> Can anybody help me with transport?
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[20:52:49] <vice-versa> what's in your logs?
[20:54:19] <seekwill> stuffs
[20:54:28] <vice-versa> lol
[20:54:50] <Peasant> in my logs is nothing special
[20:55:04] <seekwill> What do special log lines look like?
[20:55:09] <Peasant> but i see the mail delivered locally
[20:55:23] <vice-versa> [postfix/special]
[20:55:27] <Peasant> when I expect it to be relayed
[20:59:29] * vice-versa Windexs his crystal ball
[20:59:43] <vice-versa> pffft logs, we don't need no stinking logs
[21:00:41] <neurodamage> heh
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[21:02:02] <seekwill> Cause you know, only special logs tell you useful things.
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[21:05:34] <vice-versa> ok, I'll ask the obvious question... What version of postfix are you using Peasant?
[21:06:10] <neurodamage> Nokio, nothing looks wrong there in your master.cf what about main.cf?
[21:06:26] <neurodamage> Nokio, you don't have firewalls running or anything like that do you on port 25? that allows you to connect but with no response?
[21:06:50] <Peasant> 1.1.11 and I was already looking for an upgrade
[21:06:58] <Peasant> guess thats the problem
[21:07:00] <vice-versa> then that's your problem
[21:07:39] <vice-versa> user@domain lookup is only available in 2.0 up
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[21:08:02] <Peasant> ok tnx
[21:08:32] <neurodamage> oh wow, you're on some old school there buddy
[21:09:02] <Peasant> yeah pretty oldskool
[21:09:16] <Peasant> even thinking how to upgrade this debian thing
[21:09:24] <Peasant> don't want to compile
[21:09:40] <vice-versa> mSeXchange to the rescue
[21:09:43] * vice-versa vomits
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[21:11:06] <Nokio> neurodamage as for now i will wait i have been contacting the external smtp server client to see if there if something on their side and im waiting for an answer :) until then thanks for the time and help
[21:13:15] <seekwill> Bah, MS Exchange is good.
[21:14:49] * vice-versa abuses seekwill with a large log file
[21:14:58] <neurodamage> Nokio, no worries
[21:16:41] <seekwill> vice-versa: I mean, Zimbra is greater!
[21:17:07] * vice-versa has been meaning to have a look at that
[21:17:20] <seekwill> It's really nice. I use it
[21:17:27] <seekwill> A sure resource hog
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[21:20:48] <vice-versa> seekwill: give me the summarized version of why you think it's really nice
[21:21:03] <seekwill> It works and easy to install
[21:21:20] <seekwill> Postfix/SA/dspam/clamav/ldap
[21:21:28] <seekwill> webmail is purdy
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[21:21:47] <seekwill> Need I say more?
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[21:22:07] <seekwill> And that groupware stuff (calendar stuffs)
[21:22:55] <vice-versa> does it do anything unique with duplicate message storage like exchange?
[21:23:13] <seekwill> Let me find out
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[21:23:40] <seekwill> Oh, storage. No idea
[21:25:35] <vice-versa> that's one feature of exchange I like
[21:26:06] <seekwill> Disks are cheap!
[21:26:51] <vice-versa> so are idiots
[21:26:59] <pdragon> I'm trying to get an email server up using the workaround.org guide for debian etch. Got to the part for setting up AMaViS and now getting this http://pastebin.com/da20c15a
[21:27:16] <seekwill> heh... :(
[21:27:25] <pdragon> I checked everything in this guide http://www200.pair.com/mecham/spam/clamav-amavisd-new.html and all my settings are right
[21:27:32] <pdragon> not sure what else to check
[21:27:45] <seekwill> ooh, pair. I used them, long time ago
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[21:32:05] <Signum> pdragon: either install clamav-daemon or configure another virus scanner like the command line "clamscan" in amavis' config
[21:35:23] <pdragon> it is installed... think i found the problem, though. figures i would when i come in here and ask after trying for about an hour to fix it :)
[21:37:03] <pdragon> forgot to uncomment the second @bypass... line for spam in the amavis conf
[21:39:45] <pdragon> that was it. thanks for the help and for the guide :)
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[21:44:48] <Signum> pdragon: You're welcome. :)
[21:46:54] * cpm hugs Signum
[21:47:05] <Signum> cpm: rehug
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[21:56:30] <wftl> Hello. I want postfix to process incoming mail (clamav, etc) then relay it to another machine internally. How do I do that?
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[22:35:40] <seekwill> Need more MTA talk, people!
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[22:55:00] * mwalling mta's seekwill
[22:55:35] * seekwill ponders if that's a good thing or not
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[22:59:25] <seekwill> So like, what MTA do you guys use?
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[23:01:06] <opensauce> postfix
[23:01:06] <opensauce> u?
[23:01:26] <Trengo> sendmail
[23:01:28] <Trengo> and postfix
[23:01:30] <seekwill> I hear qmail is nice
[23:01:38] <sysmonk> oh yeah, sure
[23:01:47] <sysmonk> i heared windows are nice
[23:01:52] <sysmonk> so many people using them
[23:01:54] <opensauce> I ran into something called Exim today....ever heard of it?
[23:02:06] <rob0> There MUST be a reason for Windows' popularity.
[23:02:06] <sysmonk> opensauce: noh, is it a door opener ?
[23:02:14] <seekwill> I use telnet
[23:02:18] <opensauce> lol
[23:02:21] <sysmonk> seekwill: great mta!
[23:02:23] <sysmonk> and lda!
[23:02:25] <opensauce> might be....
[23:02:27] <sysmonk> and mua!
[23:02:29] <sysmonk> :)
[23:02:33] <opensauce> how old is it compared to postfix?>
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[23:02:41] <sysmonk> opensauce: what? telnet?
[23:03:00] <opensauce> no Exim
[23:03:07] <sysmonk> ah, eXIM
[23:03:09] <rob0> hmmm, I would suggest asking about Exim in an exim forum.
[23:03:49] <rob0> I've heard it's good and well-documented, but that's all I can say, and it's hearsay.
[23:03:51] <opensauce> I dont wanna know anything about it....just how old it is compared to postfic
[23:03:59] <rob0> ^^
[23:04:56] <Trengo> ask google?
[23:05:11] <sysmonk> opensauce: exim ~1995
[23:05:19] <sysmonk> postfix ~1999
[23:05:37] <rob0> EXperImental Mailer
[23:05:41] <seekwill> lol
[23:05:47] <rob0> that's a long experiment
[23:05:49] <sysmonk> just for complicity
[23:05:51] <sysmonk> sendmail ~1980
[23:05:51] <sysmonk> ;)
[23:06:25] <sysmonk> so, older != better
[23:06:34] <opensauce> cool...ok thanks sysmonk
[23:06:54] <opensauce> what do u use?
[23:06:59] <opensauce> I would assume postfix
[23:07:01] <rob0> I do think Postfix, at present, has the largest and most active user base. But in absolute terms of Internet mailboxes, we might still lag behind Sendmail.
[23:07:21] <sysmonk> rob0: ain't sure bout that
[23:07:27] <sysmonk> ah, user base
[23:07:39] <sysmonk> just i hate that qmail is squizzed in each hosting panel somehow
[23:07:43] <sysmonk> i _hate_ it
[23:07:45] <rob0> compare the IRC channels and mailing lists
[23:08:13] <rob0> postfix-users is by far the busiest.
[23:08:31] <sysmonk> yeah, i know *marks this folder as read*
[23:09:31] <sysmonk> k, i'm early goin to sleep today
[23:09:39] <sysmonk> gnight
[23:09:47] <rob0> 'night evil one
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[23:10:08] <sysmonk> :P
[23:10:19] <seekwill> Wait, don't go!
[23:10:21] <seekwill> Who will we talk to?
[23:10:23] <higuita> opensauce: i have used sendmail, exim, qmail and postfix... exim is not bad, hate alot sendmail and little qmail, but i think postfix is more flexible, faster and easier
[23:11:13] <Freppa> How should I do if I want to deliver a mail to a php-script instead of dovecot?
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[23:40:48] <aedaemoen> hey guys
[23:45:02] <aedaemoen> getting the following error in my maillog and not sure how to fix it:  Jun 10 14:42:00 phoenix sendmail[5153]: m5ALg0Zd005153: Authentication-Warning: phoenix.corp.aechelon.com: daemoen set sender to daemoen at aechelon dot com using -f
[23:45:12] <aedaemoen> ahh, seems it is still routing through sendmail, interesting
[23:45:35] <rob0> indeed, a Sendmail question should go to #sendmail :)
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[23:53:04] <rob0> Oh but actually I can answer that one. It's not an error, it is a warning, which is why it says "warning". Unix user "daemoen" invoked sendmail(1) with the -f option.
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[23:53:39] <rob0> You can stop it by adding daemoen to the "trusted user" class.
[23:54:12] <seekwill> rob0 is a sendmail expert
[23:54:16] <rob0> If you want to be running Postfix, see your OS documentation about how to disable Sendmail and activate Postfix.
[23:54:30] * rob0 is nothing of the sort :)
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[23:58:08] <aedaemoen> i am running postfix
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[23:58:21] <aedaemoen> but postfix doesnt seem to have its own delivery method, it uses smtpd
[23:58:57] <zmitya> hi all
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[23:59:19] <zmitya> I would like to do greylisting with postgrey. I have this config: http://paste.debian.net/6062/
[23:59:50] <zmitya> If I put check_policy_service to smtpd_recipient_restrictions postfix does not send the mail to the greylist server
[23:59:59] <zmitya> can someone help me why ?





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