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[02:34:36] <adv> does sending/receiving mail require an mx record?
[02:34:52] <Dominian> Across the internet: Yes.
[02:36:03] <mwalling> an mx record tells the sending server what server is accepting email for that address...
[02:36:11] <mwalling> its kinda like an american zip ccode
[02:36:30] <adv> hm i just tried with just an A record
[02:36:35] <adv> and it worked :/
[02:36:40] <adv> that's why i'm asking
[02:36:42] <mwalling> as it might
[02:36:47] <mwalling> but its not RFC behavior
[02:36:52] <mwalling> its a convient fallback
[02:36:57] <adv> it's not standard you mean?
[02:37:06] <adv> it's not guaranteed to happen?
[02:37:09] <mwalling> yup
[02:37:16] <adv> ok
[02:37:44] <adv> also, i want to be able to send/receive emails from my mail client, how would i do that?
[02:37:55] <adv> which software do i need extra?
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[02:39:10] <thumbs> your client does not receive emails. Your server does.
[02:40:00] <OctZ[MAC]> as a quick fix to get me through the night, I am looking for a way to increase the amount of time the pop3 session may be idle without the server hanging up, I know this isn't elegant but is just so I can go get some food, I searched around for timeout and read the FAQ, but no luck there, anyone know what this variable might be called?
[02:43:02] <adv> thumbs: yes sorry. what would i need
[02:43:24] <rob0> Fallback to A in absence of MX is indeed required by RFC 2821.
[02:43:35] <thumbs> adv: open port 25 on your server, and register a mx record.
[02:44:04] <adv> and then?
[02:44:31] <mwalling> !basic
[02:44:31] <knoba> mwalling: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[02:44:34] <mwalling> that ^^
[02:46:00] <shasta> mwalling, it is required by RFC
[02:46:13] <shasta> oh, rob0 pointed that out already
[02:46:16] <mwalling> shasta: delivery to A's?
[02:46:21] <mwalling> oh
[02:46:21] <shasta> yes
[02:46:35] <shasta> no MX record -> try A
[02:46:43] <adv> no you misunderstood
[02:46:56] <adv> i want to have pop3
[02:47:04] <adv> and the equivalent for sending :/
[02:47:06] <shasta> pop3 has nothing to do with MX
[02:47:14] <adv> it's a different question
[02:47:27] <thumbs> then you need a pop server.
[02:47:29] <rob0> You need to read up on basics, know the protocols involved and when/why they're used.
[02:47:46] <adv> if the web server is the same with the mailserver do i need an mx record?
[02:47:57] <adv> i mean if one address has all
[02:48:10] <thumbs> I thought you were off to read the basics, adv ?
[02:48:10] <adv> and for the sending what do i need?
[02:48:10] <shasta> OctZ[MAC], it's not related to postfix in anyway. try your pop3 daemon documentation or/and relevant irc channel
[02:48:24] <shasta> adv, knowledge
[02:48:29] <thumbs> shasta: bad case of tab completion?
[02:48:37] <shasta> thumbs, not at all
[02:48:51] <rob0> 00:40 < OctZ[MAC]> as a quick fix ...
[02:48:54] <thumbs> oh, sorry.
[02:49:03] <rob0> another pop3 question
[02:49:03] <adv> thumbs: i have read them
[02:49:07] <OctZ[MAC]> shasta, oh do, off to bother the cyrus people sorry
[02:49:17] <thumbs> adv: have you?
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[02:49:26] <adv> yes
[02:49:32] <adv> that link at least
[02:49:53] <adv> is sasl the answer?
[02:50:01] <shasta> ...
[02:50:06] <thumbs> ...
[02:50:11] <thumbs> you didn't read the basics.
[02:50:34] <adv> postfix basics don't include sending/receiving mail
[02:50:43] <shasta> oh my
[02:51:03] <thumbs> where to begin?
[02:51:22] <adv> why are you people rude?
[02:51:24] * thumbs leaves that to shasta
[02:51:27] <shasta> in the beginning there was chaos...
[02:51:29] <shasta> ;)
[02:52:21] <thumbs> and seekwill was born
[02:52:33] <shasta> adv, because you MUST know what rob0 said: < rob0> You need to read up on basics, know the protocols involved and when/why they're used.
[02:52:50] <adv> ok where
[02:53:08] <shasta> google for:
[02:53:10] <shasta> 1. smtp
[02:53:15] <shasta> 2. pop3, imap
[02:53:20] <shasta> 3. mta
[02:53:22] <shasta> 4. mua
[02:54:47] <adv> ok. is there another way to send email through a mail client except sasl auth on the server?
[02:55:19] <shasta> 5. sasl
[02:55:21] <shasta> *evil grin*
[02:55:44] <adv> it's a yes/no question
[02:55:55] <thumbs> no, it's not.
[02:56:21] <adv> thumbs: are you playing or what/
[02:56:33] <thumbs> no, I'm quite serious.
[02:56:35] <thumbs> and so is shasta
[02:57:37] <shasta> adv, you're confused by terminology
[02:58:05] <shasta> which, in turn, confuses us, who are used to terms used where they belong
[02:59:05] <adv> by mail client i mean mua
[02:59:27] <shasta> sasl auth, or more precisely "smtp auth" (often being done by sasl) is just a way to tell remote mta that "it's really me!"
[03:00:13] <adv> ok i understand that
[03:00:35] <adv> but is it mandatory? in the case i don't have open relay.
[03:01:14] <shasta> no, it's not mandatory. but the second sentence makes no sense to me
[03:02:30] <adv> so if it's not mandatory how can i tell smtp to accept my mails?
[03:03:00] <shasta> there are plenty of ways to make postfix accept and "relay" mail to other sites
[03:03:25] <shasta> all of them, except smtp auth are extremely risky
[03:03:38] <shasta> (you're risking becoming an open relay)
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[03:05:04] <adv> shasta: so the easiest and most reasonable way is sasl right?
[03:05:37] <shasta> not the easiest, but probably gives the best results given the effort
[03:05:48] <adv> what's the easiest?
[03:05:56] <shasta> not telling you
[03:06:04] <adv> lol why?
[03:06:09] <adv> most common?
[03:06:18] <shasta> smtp auth is definitely the most common
[03:08:56] <shasta> and I'm not telling you, because there are configuration parameters in postfix that are similar to scalpel. used by a experienced surgeon can cure you, but used by a lazy bastard like you can kill everyone around
[03:09:34] <shasta> s/a exp/an exp/
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[03:59:50] <rob0> mynetworks is not any more risky than SASL AUTH, assuming of course that the networks are correctly defined.
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[04:08:45] <adv> i get relay access denied
[04:08:58] <adv> i am using sasl auth
[04:09:19] <adv> when trying to send mail from my mua to an external site
[04:09:37] <adv> why?
[04:12:11] <adv> mynetworks?
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[08:46:12] <Nesquick> hi there all
[08:46:23] <Nesquick> i have a litle problem with my postfix
[08:46:27] <Nesquick> after a system crash...
[08:46:41] <Nesquick> when i telnet localhost 25
[08:46:49] <Nesquick> my screen remains black...
[08:47:14] <Nesquick> and i cannot see what i write...if i try to write something...
[08:47:35] <Nesquick> i think is from postfix...but i don't know from where...
[08:47:49] <Nesquick> cam anyone help me please
[08:47:55] <sysmonk> o_O i don't think it's "from postfix"
[08:48:02] <Nesquick> but ?
[08:48:12] <sysmonk> Nesquick: are you telnetting from a unix machine?
[08:48:14] <sysmonk> or windows?
[08:48:27] <Nesquick> i try from a unix
[08:48:29] <Nesquick> from a windows
[08:48:31] <Nesquick> same thing
[08:48:37] <sysmonk> anyway, it wasn't a really related question
[08:48:42] <sysmonk> Nesquick: check your logs
[08:48:47] <sysmonk> must be some of your maps are broken
[08:48:51] <sysmonk> i.e. alias
[08:49:10] <Nesquick> and in this case what should i do ?
[08:49:42] <sysmonk> first, FIND THE PROBLEM
[08:49:52] <sysmonk> as i said, look in the logs
[08:51:40] <Nesquick> ok...i see that i recive
[08:52:04] <Nesquick> a 450 error that says service temporaily unavailable
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[08:53:03] <sysmonk> no, it's what you get on the telnet line, right?
[08:54:11] <Nesquick> no...this is what i found in /var/log/maillog
[08:54:34] <sysmonk> then search for some other error
[08:54:42] <sysmonk> try restarting postfix and looking for other errors
[08:58:32] <Nesquick> warning: process /usr/libexec/postfix/smtpd pid 2978 exit status 1
[08:58:32] <Nesquick> Jun  9 08:56:29 web-s1 postfix/master[2972]: warning: /usr/libexec/postfix/smtpd: bad command startup -- throttling
[08:58:36] <Nesquick> this is what i found
[08:58:47] <Nesquick> i get this when i telnet
[08:59:04] <Nesquick> or i try to telnet to 25
[09:00:33] <sysmonk> then check the logs before
[09:00:38] <sysmonk> should have some info
[09:00:57] <sysmonk> also, you might be using one of those crappy distros which log debug info to some other file
[09:01:03] <sysmonk> i.e. /var/log/mail.err or whatever
[09:01:12] <sysmonk> so check all your /var/log/mail* files
[09:02:18] <Nesquick> i use rhel4
[09:02:50] <sysmonk> i don't use linux so sorry, don't know which distros  use that stuff
[09:04:21] <Nesquick> ok... np...
[09:04:53] <Nesquick> i only have logs only in /var/log/maillog for postfix/courier
[09:05:02] <sysmonk> good then
[09:05:09] <sysmonk> check those for errors/warnings
[09:05:13] <Nesquick> i only get that 450
[09:05:18] <Nesquick> and after that
[09:05:20] <sysmonk> grep -E "error|warning" /var/log/maillog
[09:05:24] <Nesquick> status: deferred
[09:06:30] <Nesquick> Jun  9 10:05:59 web-s1 authdaemond: ldap_simple_bind_s failed: Can't contact LDAP server
[09:06:30] <Nesquick> Jun  9 10:06:00 web-s1 authdaemond: ldap_simple_bind_s failed: Can't contact LDAP server
[09:06:32] <Nesquick> and this one
[09:06:52] <Nesquick> but i don't use ldap server
[09:07:09] <Nesquick> user auth is made via mysql
[09:13:13] <sysmonk> it's not a postfix error
[09:13:16] <sysmonk> look for postfix errors
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[09:16:35] <Nesquick> sysmonk, thats all i can get
[09:16:39] <Nesquick> from my logs
[09:18:51] <sysmonk> then you're missing something
[09:19:10] <sysmonk> turn on the debugging, if you reaaaaly think there's nothing in the logs
[09:24:17] <Nesquick> sysmonk,
[09:24:19] <Nesquick> Jun  9 10:23:28 web-s1 postfix/smtpd[4572]: dict_open: unix:passwd.byname
[09:24:19] <Nesquick> Jun  9 10:23:28 web-s1 postfix/smtpd[4572]: fatal: open database /etc/aliases.db: No such file or directory
[09:25:09] <Nesquick> how i make that aliases.db ?
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[09:26:08] <sysmonk> just as i said in the begining
[09:26:13] <sysmonk> Nesquick: newaliases
[09:26:18] <sysmonk> or postalias /etc/aliases
[09:27:11] <Nesquick> i found aliases.db
[09:27:16] <Nesquick> but is in other folder...
[09:28:31] <sysmonk> i can't know which file you used, but it searches for /etc/aliases.db
[09:28:35] <sysmonk> so you should postalias /etc/aliases
[09:28:37] <sysmonk> and it will create that file
[09:28:58] <sysmonk> you can see which aliases file postfix uses by runig postconf alias_maps
[09:32:40] <Nesquick> sysmonk,
[09:32:45] <Nesquick> it works :D
[09:32:53] <Nesquick> now another question...
[09:33:00] <Nesquick> i use virtual domains
[09:33:39] <Nesquick> and i have in /etc/postfix/virtual/aliases
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[09:34:05] <Nesquick> that look something like this
[09:34:07] <Nesquick> #
[09:34:07] <Nesquick> # MTA Managment Virtual Aliases List;
[09:34:07] <Nesquick> #
[09:34:07] <Nesquick> # Please do NOT edit it manually;
[09:34:07] <Nesquick> #
[09:34:09] <Nesquick> nesquick at ghostland dot ro   nesquick at ghostland dot ro
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[09:35:03] <sysmonk> use a pastebin for pasting
[09:35:29] <Nesquick> ok sorry...
[09:35:43] <Nesquick> i will paste there from now on
[09:36:00] <sysmonk> no, go back in time and paste it to the pastebin :P
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[09:43:54] <Nesquick> syneus,
[09:43:56] <Nesquick> sysmonk,
[09:43:56] <Nesquick> http://pastebin.com/d5fd98b78
[09:43:58] <Nesquick> :D
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[09:54:29] <sysmonk> you didn't go back in time as i asked!
[09:54:29] <sysmonk> ;P
[09:54:35] <sysmonk> anyway, i don't see a question
[09:55:22] <Nesquick> sysmonk,
[09:55:31] <Nesquick> i solved
[09:55:45] <Nesquick> i made a symlink...
[09:56:06] <Nesquick> from where generate my alias.db to /etc/postfix/alias.db
[09:56:13] <Nesquick> restarted the mta
[09:56:18] <Nesquick> and voila :)
[09:56:25] <Nesquick> anyway thaks a lot :)
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[09:56:35] <Nesquick> for helping me to debug
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[09:58:47] <sysmonk> np
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[12:11:01] <Raphux> Hello
[12:11:20] <dragonheart> ehlo
[12:12:29] <Raphux> I have a probleme with postmap and LDAP... Friday, when I was querying some id with postmap,  every thing was fine. Today, I don't know why, postmap doesn't respect what I put in the ldap configuration file
[12:13:23] <padde> Raphux: your information doesn't give much room for analysis ;)
[12:13:28] <Raphux> fire : it tries to connect using ldapV2 protocol, whereas in the configuration file, i have the "version = 3"
[12:13:31] <padde> Raphux: is the ldap server working as it was before?
[12:14:06] <Raphux> I only change schematical structure... an "ldapsearch" is working fine, and the worst, is that postfix works!
[12:14:14] <Raphux> postmap doesn't
[12:14:16] <Raphux> but postfix do!
[12:15:23] <padde> Raphux: maybe postfix will also stop working after a reload
[12:15:23] <Raphux> Not i allow v2 protocole on slapds.conf... postmap now tries to connect, but does not bind it self, so it get kicked
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[12:15:31] <Raphux> Mmmm
[12:16:20] <Raphux> nope, still working
[12:20:27] <Raphux> it seem that it doesn't parse correctly the configuration file :
[12:21:16] <Raphux> here is the end of the result of : postmap -v -q 'raphael.berlamont\ at its dot setec.fr' ldap:virtual_alias_maps-ldap.cf   => http://www.pastebin.ca/1042760
[12:21:30] <Raphux> and here is the configuration file : http://www.pastebin.ca/1042762
[12:23:37] <padde> Raphux: hm... i have no idea what could be wrong there...
[12:24:17] <padde> Raphux: i would grep for 'mailacceptinggeneralid' in /etc
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[12:24:25] <padde> Raphux: this seems the ldap config file that actually is being parsed
[12:26:29] <fifo_> How can I make a 100% redundant e-mail setup? Basically, e-mail comes into serverA and gets redistributed to lower end servers (depending on where the user's physical location is). Also, if serverA fails, then serverB takes over it's status and also it's queues. So there needs to be some queue persistence/synchronization across them? Anyone have any guides/docs related to setting up these?
[12:29:25] <Raphux> fifo_, heartbeat + drbd?
[12:30:33] <dragonheart> fifo_: there's a bit thread from last thursday on postfix users titled "Postfix Scalability - High Volume MTA" that should have some tips
[12:36:05] <f3ew> fifo_, pay me lots of money
[12:36:09] <f3ew> That's a good start
[12:36:11] <f3ew> :P
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[12:38:19] <tuxick> sendmail: fatal: setenv MAIL_LOGTAG postfix: Bad address
[12:38:27] <tuxick> anyone any idea what that's about?
[12:38:56] <tuxick> can't find any documentatation mentioning it, yet it's in config
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[12:50:26] <fifo_> I don't get heartbeat? What if postfix fails but the heart packets are still beating?
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[12:53:25] <simmerz> is it possible to send emails via amavis only if the user is auth'ed? I'm using an external scanning service for incoming email, but want outgoing email to go through my own scanner
[12:53:27] <f3ew> fifo_, write a script to ensure that heartbeat dies if Postfix fails
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[12:59:26] <Marticus> good morning
[13:00:10] <Marticus> I've a question regarding always_bcc, maybe someone will have an answer some time before the end of my shift in 3 hours. So I'll post it and hope for the best
[13:02:03] <Marticus> a customer wishes to archive all incoming -and- outgoing email so I configured always_bcc. The customer says it is archiving inbound but not outbound email. I read the http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#always_bcc document and I get the idea it does not archive outbound based on "nor for mail that postfix generates utself."
[13:02:30] <Marticus> or, should it be archiving outbound as I was expecting and maybe it is not because spamassassin is in the mix?
[13:03:41] <Marticus> I imagine the customer uses outlook to pop before sending mail
[13:04:18] <Marticus> the delivery method in master.cf is: spamassassin unix - n n - - pipe user=nobody argv=/usr/bin/spamc -U /var/run/spamassassin/spamd.sock -f -e /usr/sbin/sendmail.postfix -oi -f ${sender} ${recipient}
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[13:23:33] <Raphux> padde, got it : I didn't type the full path to the conf dir...
[13:23:52] <Raphux> this is correct :  postmap -q raphael.berlamont at its dot setec.fr ldap:/etc/postfix/virtual_mailbox_maps-ldap.cf
[13:24:17] <padde> Raphux: hehe, i see
[13:24:52] <simmerz> is it possible to send emails via amavis only if the user is auth'ed? I'm using an external scanning service for incoming email, but want outgoing email to go through my own scanner
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[13:36:17] <simmerz> anyone at all?
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[13:48:29] <dragonheart> simmerz: think i've seen transport maps for that recommended before
[13:49:28] <simmerz> ok
[13:51:43] <simmerz> how would that work? transport maps wouldn't know the difference between SMTP and SMTP AUTH though would it?
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[13:56:31] <dragonheart> simmerz: are you using a submission port for authed users?
[13:56:41] <dragonheart> is so maybe a content_filter as an arguement in master.c
[13:56:43] <dragonheart> f
[13:57:34] <simmerz> dragonheart: I wasn't. I should really.
[13:57:43] <Raphux> I'm trying to set some domain aliasing with ldap. For example, I would like all user that are like : username at inter dot setec.fr be the destination of username at eco dot setec.fr.
[13:58:16] <Raphux> I set the virtual_alias_domains to  ldap:/etc/postfix/virtual_alias_domains-ldap.cf
[13:58:36] <Raphux> and when I query the file, i do have an answer :
[13:58:47] <Raphux> mailstore1 [P]:/etc/postfix# postmap -q eco.setec.fr ldap:/etc/postfix/virtual_alias_domains-ldap.cf
[13:58:47] <Raphux> inter.setec.fr
[13:59:19] <Raphux> but postfix seems to refuse mails for @eco.setec.fr
[13:59:43] <Raphux> I'm not sur about the way i've done that... if it is correct or not
[14:00:47] <padde> Raphux: i have a similar problem... eco.setec.fr needs to be in the mydestination then
[14:01:26] <Raphux> But i'm working with virtual_account
[14:01:34] <Raphux> virtual account*
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[14:52:31] <cpm> morning f3ew
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[15:10:01] <rob0> !unknown_virtual
[15:10:01] <knoba> rob0: "unknown_virtual" : \"User unknown in virtual $X table\" means that the recipient domain was found in $virtual_$X_domains but the username@domain was not found in $virtual_$X_maps. ("$X" can be either alias or mailbox .)
[15:10:13] <rob0> Raphux: ^^ and see also Viktor's reply
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[15:11:27] <Raphux> thx :)
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[15:34:38] <contraventor> hi
[15:34:56] <contraventor> how use pflogsum per user ?
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[16:25:59] <Sysctl___> hi all, whats the most ideal basic configuration setup for postfix on a webserver so that emails dont get deferred. I tested it just sending to my own account and yahoo seems to want to defer it for some reason
[16:26:36] <Sysctl___> i made sure that the ip address has a record for reverse dns
[16:27:27] <dragonheart> i get it on a list too - its just something you need to put up with. postfix will retry anyway
[16:27:54] <dragonheart> is there an authenticated send though yahoo?
[16:28:07] <Sysctl___> i think you can create spf records
[16:28:18] <Sysctl___> so i might try that
[16:28:42] <Sysctl___> but i dont think it guarantees that all recipient services care about it
[16:29:52] <dragonheart> no - can't hurt
[16:30:22] <dragonheart> though
[16:33:08] <rob0> Sys, just buy Yahoo yourself. (You'll have to bid against Microsoft.)
[16:33:19] <Sysctl___> lol
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[16:55:47] <_apk> Hi! I have a simple postfix configuration (for one domain) that is doing its work :)  now I have to receive and send mail also for another domain
[16:56:07] <devdas> !virtual
[16:56:07] <knoba> devdas: "virtual" : a way to configure additional domains and user accounts (that do not need to exist in your /etc/passwd). See: http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html
[16:56:23] <_apk> devdas, sorry for the FAQ :)
[16:56:37] <devdas> np
[16:56:52] <_apk> I was trying to send out mail with this; http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_REWRITING_README.html
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[16:57:12] <_apk> I'll read virtual readme...thank you :)))
[16:57:47] <_apk> oh sorry devdas
[16:58:06] <_apk> I forgot one important thing...I have to use to different IP addresses for those domains
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[16:58:15] <_apk> s/to/two
[16:58:22] <devdas> _apk, then your life is easier
[16:58:36] <_apk> do have I to work in master.cf?
[16:58:42] <devdas> Easiest
[16:59:01] <devdas> two smtpd listeners with different -o inet_interfaces, and -o smtpd_recipient_restrictions
[17:00:05] <_apk> ok so I don't have to install anything more...the problem is that I'm using submission to sent email for one domain
[17:00:12] <_apk> s/sent/send
[17:00:41] <_apk> how can I specify a different port for submission for the second domain?
[17:01:04] <devdas> clone the submission smtpd line?
[17:01:20] <devdas> change the port in the first column
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[17:02:59] <_apk> thank you again devdas! I didn't know that I can specify the port on the first column :)
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[17:05:59] <sujith_h> Hi all I am using clamsmtpd(1.9 version). I am trying to fetch and send the mail using my mail client. But the mail client  was giving me the following 2 errors. 1)Failed to connect to SMTP server elinanetworks.com in secure mode: STARTTLS not supported 2)Failed to connect to SMTP server hobbes.blr.elinanetworks.com in secure mode: STARTTLS not supported. I am having 2 mail accounts.
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[17:06:20] <sujith_h> Can any one help me to find out what would be the problem
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[17:06:37] <Sysctl___> how does the relationship between rDNS and spam filtering work? If I send an email from server x claiming to from "serverx.abc.com", what does the reverse dns of that ip address need to look like?
[17:06:47] <sujith_h> In the earlier version of clamsmtp (1.6 version) it worked perfectly.
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[17:12:03] <sujith_h> Can any one help me regarding the above problem?
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[17:14:55] <geek_cl> hi guys, anyone : reject: body AAAAAACAAAAAgAAAAAAAAAAAAAcAAAAAQAAAAEEAAADfAAAA9gAAAEUBAABGAQAASQMAAEoDAAA3 from
[17:15:50] <geek_cl> i have in body_checks    /Viagra/     REJECT
[17:15:58] <geek_cl>  /Viiiiaaaa/     REJECT
[17:16:17] <geek_cl> a then he block a html format mail
[17:17:05] <sujith_h> Is tls issue associated with postfix?
[17:17:41] <geek_cl> body_and_header_checks ? is a tls issue?
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[17:18:46] <vice-versa> you don't think there might have been other discussions before you joined geek_cl ?
[17:20:23] <sujith_h> geek_cl:I were thinking if tls is an issue associated with postfix?
[17:21:04] <vice-versa> sujith_h: do you have tls support configured in postfix?
[17:21:14] <sujith_h> yah I have configured
[17:22:07] <sujith_h> vice-versa: But the issue is that I switched on to the latest Ubuntu "Hardy". Now I am not able to send or fetch the mail.
[17:23:02] <ScottK> sujith_h: What version were you upgrading from?
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[17:26:48] <vice-versa> sujith_h: telnet to the server(s) in question and look for 250-STARTTLS after issuing an EHLO
[17:27:37] <sujith_h> vice-versa:If I stop the clamsmtp and p3scan, it fetch and send mail works perfectly. Actually we were using ubuntu dapper distro, today I formatted my test PC and installed Ubuntu hardy.The dapper version of postfix was "2.5.1-1"  and the hardy version of postfix is "2.5.1-2"
[17:28:30] <sujith_h> vice-versa: Sorry I didn't get you?
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[17:29:01] <samuelmorse> hello all
[17:29:21] <samuelmorse> I
[17:29:28] <mwalling> Like
[17:29:32] <mwalling> Green
[17:29:36] <mwalling> Green
[17:29:47] <samuelmorse> I'm trying to find a way to parse my postfix log to find out who is sending out the most mail
[17:29:55] <samuelmorse> sorry, hit enter by accident :P
[17:30:00] <vice-versa> sujith_h: nm, if this isn't directly related to postfix you probably won't get much if any support in this channel
[17:30:06] <mwalling> bah, i was going for greeneggs and ham
[17:30:50] <ScottK> sujith_h: So it's a fresh Hardy install, not an upgrade?
[17:30:57] <samuelmorse> I like ham, actually the wife makes a killer ham :P
[17:32:21] <sujith_h> ScottK: Yah its a fresh hardy install.
[17:32:26] <samuelmorse> I've looked in the past for a good log file analyzer, but I can never find one that works, anyone here know of such a beast?
[17:32:42] <roe> samuelmorse, pflogsumm
[17:32:45] <roe> !pflogsumm
[17:32:47] <knoba> roe: "pflogsumm" : a perl script to analyse your mail log file and generate nice reports. See: http://jimsun.linxnet.com/postfix_contrib.html
[17:33:46] <samuelmorse> thanks!
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[17:35:55] <cmdln> good morning
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[17:40:23] <geek_cl> morning
[17:42:45] <cmdln> Does anyone know how I might allow incoming and outgoing email for select email addresses on a domain?
[17:44:31] <shasta> !check_sender_access
[17:44:33] <knoba> shasta: "check_sender_access" : Search the specified access(5) database for the MAIL FROM address, domain, parent domains, or localpart@, and execute the corresponding action.
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[17:44:40] <shasta> !check_recipient_access
[17:44:40] <knoba> shasta: Error: "check_recipient_access" is not a valid command.
[17:44:47] <shasta> blah :)
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[17:49:08] <vice-versa> !check_recipient_access
[17:49:10] <knoba> vice-versa: "check_recipient_access" : Search the specified access(5) database for the resolved RCPT TO address, domain, parent domains, or localpart@, and execute the corresponding action.
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[17:55:26] <lith> Hey guys, when i move a server to a new location, is there a way to tell the original mailserver to forward all requests to the new IP?
[17:55:43] <lith> Moving from a shared hosting / mail environment to a dedicated server.
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[17:57:55] <mwalling> change your MX record?
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[17:58:07] <shasta> !relayhost
[17:58:09] <knoba> shasta: "relayhost" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The default host to send non-local mail to when no entry is matched in the optional transport(5) table. When no relayhost is given, mail is routed directly to the destination.
[17:58:11] <shasta> !transport
[17:58:13] <knoba> shasta: "transport" : transport(5) The optional transport(5) table specifies a mapping from email addresses to message delivery transports and next- hop destinations. Look at: http://www.postfix.org/transport.5.html
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[18:26:33] <jsoftw> Anyone had problems with sending to hotmail lateley?
[18:26:44] <jsoftw> Well. With _users_ sending to hotmail?
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[18:45:25] <fragster45> hi guys
[18:45:42] <fragster45> i'm trying to install postfix mysql and having a few troubles. could someone give me a hand to see where it's going wrong?
[18:46:00] <fragster45> i followed this guide http://www.linux-noob.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2490&pid=11291&st=0&#entry11291 and i've tried sending a test mail but it doesn't turn up
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[18:46:35] <fragster45> nevermind, i think it's working
[18:46:48] <fragster45> didn't make the mailbox correctly
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[18:50:44] <krondorl> Hello, exactly what does the vda flag do, or what is it used for?
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[18:54:36] <vice-versa> http://vda.sourceforge.net/
[18:55:10] <vice-versa> !vda
[18:55:12] <knoba> vice-versa: "vda" : a patch for Postfix that adds quota functionality (see http://vda.sf.net)
[18:56:01] * action09 oy
[18:57:50] <krondorl> thanks
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[19:04:56] <Sysctl___> hi, wondering if theres a genius here that can tell me if its possible to have 1 IP resolve a reverse dns lookup to several domains?
[19:05:22] <shasta> it's not
[19:05:34] <Sysctl___> ie: "nslookup 1.2.3.4" returns "example.com" as well as "bla.net"... or is it only 1 record per IP?
[19:05:57] <shasta> well, technically it might be possible, but it's definitely against RFCs
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[19:06:25] <Sysctl___> ok, so thats a no no then :)
[19:06:37] <shasta> indeed
[19:06:50] <Sysctl___> seems odd when you can have several virtualhosts on a single IP
[19:07:47] <shasta> it's also odd that people have only one life, but they can give birth to other people ;)
[19:08:03] <seekwill> lol
[19:08:38] <Sysctl___> only reason i ask, because mail servers will reject emails from hosts that dont have a ptr record
[19:08:52] <seekwill> So get more IPs
[19:08:54] <shasta> bah
[19:08:56] <shasta> no need to
[19:09:21] <shasta> domain1.com IN MX 10 mx.mycompany.com.
[19:09:21] <shasta> domain-blabla.org IN MX 10 mx.mycompany.com.
[19:09:29] <shasta> mx.mycompany.com. IN A 123.123.123.123
[19:09:42] <shasta> 123.123.123.123.in-addr.arpa IN PTR mx.mycompany.com.
[19:10:10] <SniZ> !howto move spam-marked mails to /var/vmail/%d/%n
[19:10:10] <SniZ> :(
[19:10:10] <knoba> SniZ: Error: "howto" is not a valid command.
[19:10:27] <SniZ> knoba, I NED IT !!!!!!!
[19:10:35] <shasta> that, plus correct postfix configuration, will give you good chances not to get rejected
[19:10:43] <shasta> SniZ, sounds like a LDA job
[19:10:48] <shasta> (ie. procmail)
[19:10:53] <Sysctl___> so basically just make sure your mx record ip address is resolvable
[19:10:58] <SniZ> shasta, and what i must do?
[19:11:08] <Sysctl___> well, yeah, im trying to find that ideal postfix configuration, but not sure where to start
[19:12:00] <shasta> !basic, of course :)
[19:12:02] <knoba> shasta: Error: "basic," is not a valid command.
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[19:49:32] <aaronc> hey all, I'm switching a redhat box from sendmail to postfix and there's a bunch of mail in /var/spool/mqueue that I'd like to get to postfix...  can I just put these files in /var/spool/postfix/maildrop ?
[19:50:31] <tuxick> i doubt it :)
[19:50:45] <tuxick> can't you just first flush the queue?
[19:50:47] <aaronc> *sigh*  that's what I feared
[19:51:08] <tuxick> there's a thing called postcat afair
[19:51:10] <aaronc> the mails aren't sending correctly from sendmail
[19:51:32] <tuxick> oww sorry sendmail to postfix
[19:51:44] <aaronc> yeah
[19:51:48] <tuxick> uhm there must be one for that as well
[19:51:50] <aaronc> sendmailcat :)
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[19:52:36] <krondorl> I am trying to install postfix on a new installation using http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Email:_A_Complete_Virtual_System_-_Postfix.  When I test using telnet I get a Relay access denied when trying to do a rcpt to:
[19:53:20] <seekwill> That's a good thing! :)
[19:54:42] <krondorl> The site says I should be getting a 250 ok message..  I followed the site to the letter..
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[19:57:03] <Haris> Hello people
[19:57:11] <Haris> Does postfix know how to verify sender?
[19:57:44] <shasta> aaronc, http://www.postfix.org/INSTALL.html
[19:59:39] <seekwill> krondorl: It means that your postfix isn't allowing you to relay mail. Either because the rcpt to domain is not a local destination, or you're not connecting from an IP that is allowed to relay.
[19:59:56] <shasta> Haris, http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_VERIFICATION_README.html
[20:00:19] <krondorl> I am doing it all localhost right now..
[20:01:52] <seekwill> Paste your config and what you're trying to do in a pastebin
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[20:06:45] <Haris> are the checks I put in header_checks, body_checks case insensitive?
[20:07:15] <shasta> man 5 header_checks
[20:07:30] <krondorl> http://pastebin.com/m5932892
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[20:07:55] <Haris> COMPATIBILITY
[20:07:57] <Haris>        With Postfix version 2.2 and earlier specify "postmap -fq" to query a table that contains case sensitive patterns. By  default,  reg-
[20:07:57] <Haris>        exp: and pcre: patterns are case insensitive.
[20:08:20] <seekwill> krondorl: telnet localhost 25
[20:08:24] <shasta> also man 5 pcre_table
[20:08:34] <krondorl> soh
[20:08:36] <krondorl> doh
[20:10:10] <krondorl> thanks.. that worked..
[20:10:21] <seekwill> np
[20:10:41] <Haris> Is it possible to put multiple words in a search pattern in a single regex?
[20:10:47] <Haris> like in spamassassin
[20:11:21] <Haris> I can make a rule to find multiple words in the body or subject header and then score it with the relevant word
[20:12:28] <Haris> for eg, I want to search for the following patterns -> a) $129.95 b) 100mg c) 60 pills
[20:12:46] <seekwill> Haris: I can get you them for $99.99+shipping
[20:12:48] <Haris> and if one, two or three of them are found in the body or subject header then reject/discard it
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[20:13:03] <shasta> Haris, learn regexps
[20:13:03] <krondorl> seekwill: LOL
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[20:44:56] <Haris> would /% off/ DISCARD match % off or /\% off/ DISCARD ?
[20:45:14] <Haris> with regex, I'd say it needs to be \%
[20:45:16] <Haris> right?
[20:46:57] <linkslice> hey how does one get a header like this?  http://rafb.net/p/nBC43D35.html
[20:47:11] <shasta> Haris, is "%" any "special meaning" character in regex? :>
[20:48:22] <shasta> linkslice, the actual smtp conversation in this case was probably this:
[20:48:29] <shasta> MAIL FROM:<miker69l at gmail dot com>
[20:48:40] <shasta> RCPT TO:<awmartin at sitecrafting dot com>
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[20:49:48] <shasta> linkslice, your "From: BlogBlaster at mx2 dot sitecrafting.com" is inside headers transmitted after DATA
[20:50:42] <Haris> shasta: Not sure, that's why I asked
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[20:51:33] <linkslice> shasta: so would a second header check be overkill?  This company gets spammed a lot and most of is this type that says it came from the mail server itself...
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[21:07:43] <growltiger_> !backscatter
[21:07:45] <knoba> growltiger_: "backscatter" : http://www.postfix.org/BACKSCATTER_README.html
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[21:15:33] <linkslice> how can you test header_checks before making them active?
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[21:18:38] <shasta> linkslice, see ACTIONS in man 5 header_checks
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[21:24:37] <linkslice> shasta, I've tried adding a header check but it didn't work, you see anything wrong with it? /^From:.* at mx2 dot sitecrafting.com$/ REJECT
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[21:50:13] <linkslice> nm got it worked out
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[22:28:01] <Lars_G> Hi all.
[22:28:39] <Lars_G> I wonder. I want to set a transport entry, to deliver all emails sent to @some.domain to another server. But I want this to be considered "relaying" so only IPs authorized to relay can send there.
[22:28:44] <Lars_G> Any tips?
[22:29:55] <shasta> and what about other clients who send you mail to @some.domain?
[22:30:14] <Lars_G> They shouldn't
[22:30:23] <shasta> so, it should be rejected?
[22:30:29] <Lars_G> Yup
[22:30:52] <Lars_G> I explain quickly, we have a public email address in one server, and an intranet server with a private internal email.
[22:31:08] <shasta> and what does "IPs authorized" mean?
[22:31:10] <Lars_G> I'd like people to be able to send to the intranet from inside the LAN using the external relay server
[22:31:30] <Lars_G> It means anyone for whom relaying is allowed in the external smtp
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[22:34:33] <shasta> !check_client_access
[22:34:33] <knoba> shasta: "check_client_access" : Search the named access database for the client name, parent domains, client address, or networks obtained by stripping least significant octets. Reject if the result is REJECT or [45]XX text . Permit otherwise
[22:35:33] <Lars_G> I'll dig into that
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[22:37:15] <menace> i wrote in postfix/aliases a "amailinglist :include:/path/to/amailinglistfile" and in the file amailinglistfile the 2 mailadresses with a "," behind it. what can i do, that postfix recognizes it to use ist? and "alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases, hash:/usr/local/etc/postfix/aliases" and "alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases, hash:/usr/local/etc/postfix/aliases" is set too. the other mailsystem uses mysql
[22:38:05] <menace> does anyone have an idea, why after postalias /the/file ; postfix reload ; it doesn't send me the mail just over the catch-all-domain? (which is used by mysql?)
[22:39:59] <shasta> you don't need reload
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[22:43:27] <menace> could be, i just used it to be sure.
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[22:52:49] <aaronc> so I have a server that sendmail doesn't work right on... and so there's tons of system emails that it can't deliver that are stuck in /var/spool/mqueue..  now, I hate sendmail...  I want to move this server to postfix but I don't want to loose these mqueue messages and I don't want to learn sendmail...
[22:52:59] <aaronc> anyone know of a way to move these message so postfix can process them?
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[22:56:37] <Trengo> didnt we see this movie already?
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[22:57:32] <aaronc> probably... but the Install.html didn't have a solution
[22:57:41] <aaronc> just re-casting the line
[22:59:15] <shasta> aaronc, it does, you just didn't read it carefully enough
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[23:39:05] <aaronc> shasta:  that's clearly impossible... I never miss anything!!!1111ONEONE
[23:39:15] * aaronc goes to find what he missed
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[23:46:57] <aaronc> shasta:  I see references to leaving the old sendmail program running to send out any outstanding email after you start running postfix....
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[23:48:41] <shasta> tada.wav :)
[23:49:01] <aaronc> well...  my sendmail doesn't currently work
[23:49:07] <aaronc> and I don't want to fix it
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[23:54:24] <geek_cl> hi guys, amavis can read regexp like header/body_checks ?
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