[00:01:42] <sysmonk> i'd go with restriction classess
[00:01:49] <sysmonk> !restriction_class
[00:01:49] <knoba> sysmonk: "restriction_class" : http://www.postfix.org/RESTRICTION_CLASS_README.html
[00:06:09] <kjs> nice one thanks
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[00:06:31] <Samonoske_> what are the worst things that can happen if i have port 25 open?
[00:07:21] <lunaphyte> in terms of what?
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[00:08:03] <Samonoske_> in terms of bad
[00:08:14] <lunaphyte> you could get syphilis and die.
[00:08:22] <soren> I hate that.
[00:08:24] <Samonoske_> ...
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[00:11:29] <andreas_> Helllo
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[00:12:46] <andreas_> I had a postfix server running on Gentoo. Now I switched to Ubuntu and try to rebuild my old configuration. I think I've done it correct. But I get an error sending messages:
[00:12:56] <andreas_> May 29 00:05:09 frodo postfix/smtp[20763]: E1A15A420B: to=<andreas.volz at elektrobit dot com>, relay=none, delay=2322, delays=2302/0.03/20/0, dsn=4.4.3, status=deferred (Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=smtp.1und1.com type=MX: Host not found, try again)
[00:13:11] <andreas_> Any ideas where to start searching for the problem?
[00:13:16] <mwalling> does dns work?
[00:13:44] <mwalling> mwalling@you ~$ host smtp.1und1.com
[00:13:46] <mwalling> smtp.1und1.com has address 212.227.15.145
[00:13:46] <mwalling> smtp.1und1.com has address 212.227.15.129
[00:13:53] <andreas_> I could ping smtp.1und1.com
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[00:14:35] <andreas_> my old config had option "disable_dns_lookups = yes". Should I set this too?
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[00:21:25] <andreas_> could someone please look to this log message and help me: http://pastebin.com/m725d470c
[00:23:10] <andreas_> I don't understand the problem.
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[00:25:40] <andreas_> I need to go off in some minutes. Doen anybody not have any idea?
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[00:27:38] <andreas_> I'll come back tomorrow. If you like contact me at linux at brachttal dot net if you looked into the log. I would be very happy. See you...
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[06:03:36] <drake2> postfix, lots of fun
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[06:08:27] <rob0> /j #postfun
[06:12:18] <drake2> postfix is all good, Outlook 2003 not so good
[06:14:50] <drake2> the problem with postfix is it works so good, you forget how to configure it
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[06:58:12] <f3ew> drake2 which is why you hang out here and help other people
[06:58:50] <thumbs> fun fun fun fun fun
[06:59:32] <rob0> thumbs up
[06:59:52] <thumbs> robbie ra... never mind
[07:02:28] <drake2> had to figure out why outlook was messing up attachments sent to 2 accounts on the same server at the same time
[07:02:44] <drake2> 1 was good, the 2nd not
[07:03:14] <drake2> found out Outlook has independent settings per email address in the cache/address book for the sending format
[07:03:52] <drake2> and the one was set to rich text instead of letting outlook decide
[07:04:09] <drake2> stupid, makes it look like the server had a problem
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[09:52:43] <Sypher> hello! one question ... i have a postfix server which i have to take off the net and use a zimbra based suite ... my question is, is there a way to handle the mail that will come until the dns propagation is finished ? like forwarding it to the zimbra server using his ip ?
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[10:06:36] <soren> Sypher: It's called iptables.
[10:07:04] <Sypher> soren, so i should just forward the port like that?
[10:07:19] <Sypher> dont know, sounded like it was a bad way. :D
[10:07:24] <lennard> heh, suppose that'd work
[10:07:35] <lennard> I'd probably go for proxy_pass myself
[10:07:35] <soren> That's what I do every time I relocate servers.
[10:10:40] <Sypher> soren, can you give me an example of the actual iptables line ?
[10:11:02] <Sypher> or well, let me understand better. you take everything you get on 25 and forward it to another host ?
[10:11:48] <soren> Something like that, yes.
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[10:13:11] <soren> The downside to this approach is that, until dns propagation is finished, all connections will appear to come from the old address.
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[10:18:09] <Sypher> and that the old address gotta stay up for the process and act as a bridge :o
[10:20:27] <soren> Yeah.
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[14:23:13] <jduggan> hey guys
[14:24:21] <jduggan> untill now i've been using check_client_access cidr:/mycidr ranges to allow some hosts to miss some restrictions... it works great but now i need to tie it into a web portal i need to make it more scalable.. so mysql is the route i need
[14:24:26] <jduggan> question is
[14:24:31] <jduggan> how would i do cidr ranges in a mysql map?
[14:24:44] <jduggan> or am i literally going to have to insert each IP?
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[14:28:02] <lunaphyte_> what's preventing you from simply storing the same values you're using in the flat file in sql?
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[14:41:27] <xpoint> any one help me here http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/tools/detail.php?domain=computersalg.dk&submitted=1212064737&table=postmaster am i stupid ? :=)
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[14:46:18] <soren> xpoint: Flow Control?
[14:46:23] <soren> Some type of greylisting, perhaps?
[14:46:37] <xpoint> dont know really
[14:47:22] <xpoint> maybe thay running with VRFY disabled ?
[14:48:43] <xpoint> else i see anyway the undeliverable should really be deliverable
[14:49:04] <xpoint> weather or not it tempfails
[14:49:17] <soren> All references to that error message I can find on Google are either Danish or Swedish. I'd say there's a good chance, it's something comendo.dk (whoever they are) made up.
[14:49:28] <soren> It's probably code for "we suck".
[14:49:41] <xpoint> yep
[14:49:48] <xous> Have you been sending them a lot of emails
[14:49:56] <xous> sounds like rate-limiting to me.
[14:50:14] <xpoint> but undeliverable :/
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[14:51:09] <xous> have you tried contacting the admin via a different domain?
[14:51:30] <xpoint> nope, i can still call them if i need help
[14:51:42] <xpoint> but first evidences :-)
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[15:03:36] <bicchi> I am trying to set the maximum message size allowed to 20 MB. I have set message_size_limit = 20971520 and I am unable to send a 17 MB attachment.
[15:03:56] <bicchi> I also have mailbox_size_limit = 0
[15:07:45] <jduggan> lunaphyte_: because cidr map reads cidr address ranges, mysql map understands a cidr range??
[15:08:53] <xpoint> jduggan, no, but if one make a magic select it does
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[15:18:08] <stickystyl> bicchi: is that attachment 17MB binary (size on your computer), or 17MB after it has been base64 encoded to send over email?
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[15:20:46] <bicchi> stickystyl: not sure. I just created a 17MB file using "cat /dev/urandom > test" and tried sending that.
[15:21:28] <stickystyl> because 17MB (assuming 30% overhead) is about 22MB when converted.
[15:21:39] <bicchi> overhead?
[15:22:07] <stickystyl> extra bytes used for conversion to base64.
[15:23:06] <bicchi> why would it convert it to base64
[15:24:56] <stickystyl> because you have to send ASCII data over email, you can't send straight binary.
[15:25:25] <bicchi> ah i see
[15:25:27] <stickystyl> base64 converts binary into ASCII
[15:25:40] <stickystyl> look at the raw source of an email that has an attachment.
[15:26:01] <xpoint> ralf rejectede it, so i conclude its when VRFY is disabled, well i learnt something new todayt :)
[15:26:38] <bicchi> stickystyl: so i should add an additional 30% to my message_size_limit
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[15:28:16] <stickystyl> bicchi: the overhead varies. 30% isn't a hard rule for conversion, it could be anywhere from say 25% - 40%.  But 30% is a good rule of thumb i use.
[15:28:18] <bicchi> it is difficult to know if the attachment would be in text or in binary and set it then
[15:29:19] <bicchi> because if i make it too big and the email is a text document then the messages would go through.
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[15:29:51] <stickystyl> That is true.
[15:30:39] <bicchi> is there a command in linux that would convert a binary file to text and give me its size as a text message
[15:32:03] <bicchi> i think i found it: "base64 test > test2"
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[15:33:10] <stickystyl> that sounds like one, I don't know though as I have never needed to convert at the command line - only when I have been programing.
[15:35:04] <bicchi> ah ok. well thanks for your help.
[15:35:17] <stickystyl> No problem.
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[16:18:54] <ORION> Anybody can help me with this error? postfix/postfix-script: warning: /var/spool/postfix/etc/resolv.conf and /etc/resolv.conf differ
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[16:19:42] <shasta> which word you don't understand? ;)
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[16:21:44] <Dominian> hah
[16:21:54] <Dominian> cp /etc/resolv.conf /var/spool/postfix/etc/resolv.conf
[16:22:00] <Dominian> that's the growing pains of chrooting postfix ;)
[16:22:02] <Dantix> hi all, I'm having problems after installed postprox to filter messages by size with a script of mine, several NDR with "queue file error". I've increase the verbosity of postfix logging, but now I can't follow a mail thread within too many information. Please advice me of a good log analyzer.. thanks in advance
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[16:33:57] <spybsd> Hi there
[16:34:24] <spybsd> got a weird issue on an OpenBSD box running Postfix/Amavisd-new/Postgrey
[16:34:38] <spybsd> Greylisting and postifx seems to be working well according to my test
[16:34:50] <spybsd> but i can't connect to the amavis proxy
[16:35:01] <spybsd> still get this error in my maillog
[16:35:34] <spybsd>  postfix/smtpd[26402]: warning: connect to proxy service 127.0.0.1:10024: Connection refused
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[16:36:19] <ORION> sorry I disconnected
[16:36:24] <ORION> dont know what to do
[16:36:56] <spybsd> :s
[16:37:16] <ORION> Anybody can help me with this error? postfix/postfix-script: warning: /var/spool/postfix/etc/resolv.conf and /etc/resolv.conf differ
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[16:37:26] <spybsd> pretty easy
[16:37:28] <Dominian> spybsd: is amavisd started?
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[16:37:44] <spybsd> you just need to copy /etc/resolv.conf to your chroot dir
[16:37:55] <Dominian> cp /etc/resolv.conf /var/spool/postfix/etc/resolv.conf
[16:37:59] <Dominian> that's the growing pains of chrooting postfix ;)
[16:38:14] <ORION> aha I see I'll give it a try
[16:38:39] * cpm has chrooting pains, thinks he needs to see the doctor
[16:38:42] <spybsd> <Dominian> don't see the amavisd running when running ps
[16:38:53] <spybsd> i use this to start it within my rc.local
[16:39:11] <spybsd> # Start amavisd spam filter
[16:39:13] <spybsd> echo -n ' amavisd';    /usr/local/sbin/amavisd
[16:39:15] <Dominian> spybsd: Well if you don't see it running.. there's your problem
[16:39:54] <spybsd> yeah, i'm pretty sure of that, but it should be started on boot using the rc.local file i show you, no?
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[16:41:20] * spybsd should not have chroot his amavid conf
[16:41:51] <spybsd> <Dominian> using debug mode it seems that it's permission issue to access perl modules
[16:42:33] <Dominian> then I'd say you have your answer.
[16:43:53] <spybsd> yes thanks :)
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[16:48:51] <will> is anyone here familiar with the propagate_unmatched_extensions parameter in postfix?
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[16:57:38] <knoxyy> how can I do to clear the queue of postfix?
[16:57:51] <ORION> anyone know here a good tutorial for dovecot postfix mysql installation?
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[16:58:09] <shasta> knoxyy, man postsuper
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[17:07:26] <will> are there some postfix configuration options that can not be passed to smtpd via the command line as -o paramater=value ?
[17:07:33] <will> or should all work
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[17:10:12] <Dantix> hi all, I'm having problems after installed postprox to filter messages by size with a script of mine, several NDR with "queue file error". I've increased the verbosity of postfix logging, but now I can't follow a mail thread within too many information. Please advice me of a good log analyzer.. thanks in advance
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[18:37:31] <habnabit_> If I set virtual_alias_domains to the same hash as virtual_mailbox_domains, mail gets bounced if the user is not in the virtual alias table. Does virtual_alias_domains designate domains for which *only* aliases should be looked at?
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[18:39:00] <rob0> why would you do that?
[18:39:15] <rob0> !address_classes
[18:39:17] <knoba> rob0: "address_classes" : http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_CLASS_README.html describes how Postfix deals with different classes of addresses: local, relay, virtual alias, virtual mailbox, and Internet.
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[18:39:46] <JoseFR> im still trying to find the best way to run my script that checks to see if keywords are included and other checks, its a .sh and i want to run it either before or after spamassassin runs
[18:40:07] <JoseFR> im using -o content_filter=spamassassin atm
[18:40:13] <JoseFR> struggling to find any howto's online for how to do it
[18:40:19] <JoseFR> anyone any suggestions?
[18:40:39] <habnabit_> rob0: so that an alias in my virtual_alias_maps table wouldn't take effect if the domain of the map wasn't in the domains hash.
[18:42:30] <warn1> JoseFR: you could make a wrapper script to call both
[18:45:10] <JoseFR> that sounds swell
[18:45:32] <JoseFR> how would I go about doing that? :/ i tried to modify my script, i will pastebin what i did
[18:47:12] <JoseFR> http://www.pastebin.ca/1033231 <-- then i pointed the disclaimer script to send the mail to sendmail
[18:47:20] <JoseFR> would that work?
[18:48:19] <warn1> does you script pipe back to sendmail?
[18:48:29] <JoseFR> yes like this...
[18:48:39] <JoseFR> $SENDMAIL "$@" <in.$$
[18:48:48] <JoseFR> $sendmail = SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail
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[18:50:05] <JoseFR> my in.$$ is.. cat >in.$$ --- afaik..
[18:51:42] <JoseFR> http://www.pastebin.ca/1033233
[18:51:46] <JoseFR> is the code im using
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[18:57:03] <warn1> JoseFR: master.cf part looks about right, what does log say?
[18:57:32] <warn1> should be able to trace msg -> spamc -> script -> sendmail -> queue
[18:57:37] <rob0> hn, the one and only documented way for a virtual_alias_maps listing to NOT take effect is for that listing to not exist.
[18:59:23] <JoseFR> May 29 17:58:17 ds3788 spamc[29921]: exec failed: Permission denied
[18:59:32] <JoseFR> dunno if thats the error ;/
[18:59:56] <JoseFR> yeah looks like it
[19:00:10] <JoseFR> do i need to chown disclaimer to postfix?
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[19:01:36] <JoseFR> May 29 18:00:44 ds3788 spamc[30059]: exec failed: Permission denied
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[19:01:41] <JoseFR> still perm denied ;/
[19:01:53] <JoseFR> i did chmod 777 on file and chown postfix on file
[19:01:59] <rob0> Why would you have spamc running as postfix?
[19:02:39] <JoseFR> spamc is getting the email after postfix from the script pupilcheck
[19:02:39] <warn1> JoseFR: change owner of script - maybe i am think sendmail though
[19:03:04] <JoseFR> i guess im piping the email through to spamc wrong after the script
[19:03:45] <warn1> you are piping the spamc from postfix, and then to the script from spamc
[19:03:59] <warn1> not the other way around.
[19:04:05] <JoseFR> im piping to the script from postfix
[19:04:10] <JoseFR> then spamc from the script
[19:04:15] <JoseFR> postfix --> script --> spamc
[19:04:29] <warn1> nope.
[19:04:37] <JoseFR> wait no im not
[19:04:42] <JoseFR> im doing postfix --> spamc --> script
[19:04:47] <JoseFR> sorry...
[19:04:49] <warn1> you are running spamc from postfix master.cf. then spamc exec script after scan
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[19:07:41] <warn1> and yeah, head up my ass .. you need user= in master.cf definition
[19:07:47] <JoseFR> okay i did chown spamfilter pupilcheck (pupilcheck is now the executable of my script)
[19:08:06] <JoseFR> permission problem seems to be fixed
[19:08:23] <JoseFR>  status=sent (delivered via spamassassin service)
[19:08:34] <JoseFR> so now its getting through spamc to the script but not getting through the script..
[19:08:58] <kjs> If i want to setup Postfix as a sort of "mail proxy" that does all my spam filtering then sends the mail on to the other mail servers... What is the best way to go about doing this?
[19:09:41] <warn1> JoseFR: is it dying with error?
[19:10:02] <JoseFR> i dont see any errors
[19:10:21] <JoseFR> according to spamc its being delivered to the script successfully
[19:10:29] <warn1> do you see sendmail reinjecting?
[19:11:31] <JoseFR> i dont see any sendmail logs, sec.
[19:12:33] <JoseFR> nop, i dont have any records from sendmail available to me, is there a way to turn on sendmail logging or should it log to /var/log/mail?
[19:12:38] <rob0> "exec failed: Permission denied" is in many cases an AppArmor/SELinux thing.
[19:16:31] <JoseFR> warn1: how can I test that script?
[19:16:36] <JoseFR> please :)
[19:18:38] <rob0> !standard
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[19:18:40] <knoba> rob0: "standard" : Your question is probably answered in http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html
[19:18:44] <rob0> kjs: ^^
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[19:21:12] <SniZ> ксттаи никто не хочет ящик ваше_имя at emo dot by?
[19:21:33] <SniZ> you wanna email like your_name at emo dot by?
[19:23:00] <warn1> JoseFR: yes, sendmail *should* log to maillog
[19:23:43] <warn1> JoseFR: have you tried manually running script, passing it what spamc would pass in as args?
[19:27:20] <JoseFR> i dunno how to replicate what spamc would pass it ;/
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[19:27:35] <JoseFR> if i knew that I would be awfully happy
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[19:42:29] <warn1> JoseFR: spamc runs with the command specified in master.cf - with vars replaced of course.
[19:42:40] <warn1> entire message is piped through stdin
[19:42:55] <JoseFR> well in master.cf i have specified..
[19:43:14] <JoseFR>         -oi -f ${sender} ${recipient}
[19:43:16] <JoseFR> in my script i do..
[19:43:25] <JoseFR> SENDMAIL "$@" <in.$$
[19:43:42] <warn1> so: cat /tmp/some_message | spamc -e /usr/bin/your_script ... etc
[19:43:55] <JoseFR> oki great
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[19:44:12] <JoseFR> i will google for an example message format
[19:44:17] <JoseFR> is there any specific format im after?
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[19:51:00] <warn1> standard email format: http://pastebin.com/d6b8eb355
[19:51:22] <warn1> or pipe a message from your queue
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[20:00:18] <JoseFR> May 29 18:59:25 ds3788 spamc[31535]: exec failed: Exec format error
[20:06:48] <warn1> JoseFR: your -e arg is malformed. make sure to escape any special chars
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[20:12:42] <rob0> What OS is it?
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[20:26:50] <JoseFR> warn1: would that be in the script that it is malforing the arguement?
[20:29:29] <warn1> nope, doesn't sound like it. spamc is throwing the error
[20:29:55] <rob0> cpm: Spork?
[20:31:01] <cpm> rob0, spork!
[20:31:19] <rob0> whew, that's good news.
[20:32:27] * rob0 throws a spork at SELinux
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[20:33:42] <JoseFR> hrum
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[20:34:52] <JoseFR> any idea how to sort that? I'm stumped
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[20:35:29] <warn1> wild guess.. are the @ in your addresses escaped or quoted? spamc -e /usr/bin/whatever "someone at somewhere dot com" "me at mine dot com"
[20:36:05] <warn1> i don't even know if it would matter.
[20:36:09] <JoseFR> i just did..
[20:36:22] <JoseFR>  cat /tmp/email.txt | spamc -e /etc/postfix/pupilcheck
[20:36:38] <JoseFR> the error is prior to the script being executed or not?
[20:36:53] <JoseFR> oh, sec.
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[20:41:34] <JoseFR> oki now i get.. cat /tmp/email.txt | spamc -e /etc/postfix/pupilcheck
[20:41:41] <JoseFR> /etc/postfix/pupilcheck: line 36: in.32221: No such file or directory
[20:42:09] <warn1> JoseFR: okay, *now* it's a problem with your script.
[20:42:22] <JoseFR> line 36 = $SENDMAIL "$@" <in.$$
[20:42:33] <JoseFR> huraa, im glad we got to blaming me :)
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[20:43:26] <warn1> i'd hardcode the directory path on that line and any others dealing with that in.$$ file
[20:44:30] <JoseFR> oki
[20:46:12] <JoseFR> ds3788:/etc/postfix # cat /tmp/email.txt | spamc -e /etc/postfix/pupilcheck
[20:46:12] <JoseFR> sendmail: fatal: Recipient addresses must be specified on the command line or via the -t option
[20:46:57] <JoseFR> so i tried
[20:46:57] <JoseFR> ds3788:/etc/postfix # cat /tmp/email.txt | spamc -e /etc/postfix/pupilcheck john at primaryt dot co.uk
[20:46:57] <JoseFR> ds3788:/etc/postfix #
[20:48:01] <JoseFR> heh
[20:48:08] <JoseFR> status=bounced (Spam is bad.)
[20:50:00] <JoseFR> k added root to whitelist to test
[20:51:39] <JoseFR> still no luck, feh
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[21:38:52] <dni> hello room,.. can anyone tell me if i can setup virtual domains with postfix so there doesnt have to be any local users on the box,...   sorta how vpopmail/qmail does ?
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[21:41:12] <warn1> you mean so usernames are someasshole at somedomain dot com? or so local delivery is completely disabled?
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[21:46:40] <dni> yea its difficult to explain,. but yea i still want it to do local delivery but instead of looking for Maildir,.  for it to be several virtual users per each virtual domain
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[21:53:52] <warn1> dni: yes, postfix will handle that fine. you can specify maildir paths in mailbox lookup table to be whatever you want.
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[22:06:24] <dni> warn1 : cool,. thanks ill do some research and see if i cna find some docs
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[22:20:02] <Mathman> So...that cheatsheet thing is pretty handy, thanks to whoever made it.  one problem though.  outlook is a piece of junk apparently.  perhaps there should be some notes on there about what to do to get things working with outlook?
[22:20:28] <Dominian> Getting what working with Outlook ?
[22:22:20] <rob0> Google has plenty of such notes.
[22:22:22] <Mathman> well, sending mail in particular.  with some of that cheatsheet stuff in, I'll get errors about outlook not doing fully qualified hostnames
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[22:23:11] <rob0> No, you just put the permit_* restrictions before the reject_* ones, pretty simple!
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[22:26:55] <Mathman> !cheatsheet
[22:26:55] <knoba> Mathman: "cheatsheet" : http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt : A HOWTO for pre-DATA spam control.
[22:29:35] <Mathman> hmm, seems like there was a word of caution against doing just that, but now I can't seem to find it
[22:30:15] <rob0> it's in this:
[22:30:17] <rob0> !access
[22:30:17] <knoba> rob0: "access" : http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_ACCESS_README.html : An overview of access(5) controls in the Postfix smtpd(8) SMTP server.
[22:32:00] <rob0> what I do: use "permit_auth_destination" rather than "OK" or "permit" as lookup result, unless the lookup is specifically intending to allow relaying.
[22:33:39] <rob0> That tip came from the late Tonni Earnshaw, who was a postmaster for a school in the Netherlands. Passed away 2008/04/29.
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[22:35:11] <Dominian> hmm
[22:35:18] <Dominian> rob0: you do something like that for submission as well/
[22:36:37] <Mathman> rob0: thanks
[22:36:41] <rob0> No, I keep submission simple: -o smtpd_recipient_restrictions=permit_sasl_authenticated,reject
[22:37:22] <rob0> maybe a permit_mynetworks too
[22:38:17] <rob0> Anyway this all brings up the very good Best Practice point: force your users to use submission, discourage the use of 25 for that.
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[22:42:33] <Mathman> I was going to go with the smtps port as far as forcing users to use something goes.
[22:43:27] <Mathman> man, the guy before me was nuts at any rate.  pop3 and imap were open to the internet.  And all these people have started to complain ever since I closed those off.
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[22:53:10] <Mathman> so I'm confused perhaps.  If I put permit_mynetworks before reject_unauth_destination, then anyone spoofing one of machines on my network should be able to use my server as a relay, no?  But if I do it vice versa, then people on my network would only be able to send to local recipients.  Or am I completely wrong here?
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[22:54:36] <rob0> confused indeed
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[23:06:14] <Mathman> hmm, did anyone comment (or even see I guess I could ask) on my previous post?
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[23:08:02] <rob0> "Spoofing one of machines on my network"?
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[23:08:21] <shasta> arreyder, stop that
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[23:09:12] <mwalling> shasta: /ignore #postfix NICKS :)
[23:09:29] <arreyder> sorry
[23:09:39] <arreyder> testing a buggy bot in apache
[23:09:50] <mwalling> dont do it here?
[23:09:52] <arreyder> some combination of | is killing out infor bot
[23:10:03] <arreyder> yeah, didnt mean to, forgot I was in here
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[23:10:05] <arreyder> my apologies
[23:10:07] <Mathman> rob0: well yeah.  sending an email that appears to be coming from one of the ip addresses on my network
[23:10:27] <Mathman> even though it's coming from somewheres external
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[23:11:08] <rob0> Does Mathman understand that SMTP is interactive? "Spoofing" isn't enough, they also have to be able to receive and reply to the responses.
[23:11:52] <Mathman> ha, ok, you got me.  I'm an idiot
[23:12:17] <rob0> Obviously, keep mynetworks restricted to those where you can reach out and strangle perpetrators.
[23:14:59] <shasta> mwalling, I want to know when rob0 changes nick to ilovedebian
[23:15:08] <mwalling> haha
[23:19:17] <rob0> Hmmm, I should be aware of that too. Someone wake me up if it happens!
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