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[00:22:48] <webPragmatist> hey when it says "Comment out the local delivery agent entry" in master.cf
[00:22:59] <webPragmatist> what exactly does it mean to coment out?
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[00:25:48] <adaptr> prepend a # character ?
[00:26:02] * webPragmatist rolls eyes
[00:26:09] <adaptr> there are plenty of examples right there in the file
[00:26:22] <adaptr> did you even open it ?
[00:26:47] <webPragmatist> no not really... i just ask questions for fun
[00:27:10] <shasta> sigh
[00:27:23] <adaptr> indeed
[00:27:43] <adaptr> !basic
[00:27:43] <knoba> adaptr: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[00:27:47] <shasta> i don't know about yours, but my master.cf contains only ONE "local"-whatever reference (besides /usr/local, which are obvious PATHS)
[00:27:50] <adaptr> please, save us all some time
[00:27:58] <shasta> so this is kinda self explaining
[00:28:05] <webPragmatist> that's what's confusing
[00:28:15] <webPragmatist> there's already a bunch of entries
[00:28:30] <shasta> webPragmatist, post your master.cf on pastebin
[00:28:35] <shasta> *entire*
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[00:29:54] <webPragmatist> http://pastebin.com/d7284d362
[00:30:13] <shasta> so
[00:30:28] <shasta> how many things named "local" are there?
[00:30:37] <shasta> maybe I'm old and blind, but I only see ONE
[00:30:52] <webPragmatist> .............. ok end smart ass comments please.
[00:30:59] <shasta> you'd know if you'd RTFC
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[00:32:00] <shasta> once you start asking Real Questions (TM), I'll stop being a smartass
[00:32:00] <shasta> deal?
[00:32:02] <webPragmatist> basically each of these is what though is what i was scared about commenting out
[00:32:15] <webPragmatist> what does flush mean?
[00:32:30] <webPragmatist> and what does local have to do with flush
[00:32:34] <webPragmatist> so why is it in the same list?
[00:32:47] <adaptr> !basic
[00:32:47] <knoba> adaptr: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[00:32:54] <adaptr> please, save us all some time
[00:33:51] <webPragmatist> i've read that and it doesn't seem to explain the master.cf in much detail
[00:33:54] <adaptr> webPragmatist: as an extra courtesy, consider that not ONE of the regulars here will find you fit to administer a mail server until you have at least some acquiantance with the basics of SMTP
[00:35:12] <shasta> !master
[00:35:12] <knoba> shasta: "master" : http://www.postfix.org/master.5.html
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[00:35:31] <shasta> webPragmatist, see what a helpful bot we've got here?
[00:35:43] <adaptr> and as that is merely the man page, you will find that about as helpful
[00:35:56] <mwalling> !googleapps
[00:35:58] <knoba> mwalling: "googleapps" : Google Apps - http://www.google.com/a/ - A free service provided by Google to have your email and other services hosted by them
[00:36:02] <mwalling> *cough*
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[00:36:17] <webPragmatist> i'm trying to get the stupid mailserver to just send mail
[00:36:19] <adaptr> all mail server administration presupposes a certain level of familiarity with the basic protocols involved
[00:36:19] <webPragmatist> nothing complicating
[00:36:29] <adaptr> shall we see that again ?
[00:36:39] <webPragmatist> but whatever keep flaming
[00:36:51] <adaptr> *all* mail server administration *presupposes* a certain level of familiarity with the basic protocols involved
[00:36:51] <shasta> "just sending mail" is exactly what http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html explains
[00:37:05] <adaptr> flaming ? do you see flaming cows anywhere ?
[00:37:05] <mwalling> !basic
[00:37:07] <knoba> mwalling: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
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[00:37:12] <shasta> if you want to know some internals (what 'flush' is, etc), see http://www.postfix.org/OVERVIEW.html
[00:37:14] <mwalling> MOOOOOO
[00:37:16] <adaptr> buh-byebye
[00:37:16] <shasta> bah
[00:37:21] <mwalling> now... the bad part...
[00:37:29] <mwalling> he's in #linode
[00:37:42] <adaptr> what is linode ?
[00:37:50] <mwalling> my VPS host
[00:37:54] <adaptr> do I even want to know ?
[00:38:07] <adaptr> they have a freenode channel ? a commercial company ?
[00:38:11] <mwalling> oftc
[00:38:16] <mwalling> and yes
[00:38:40] <adaptr> wow, nice precedent
[00:38:45] <adaptr> any good ?
[00:38:50] <mwalling> *nod*
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[00:39:05] <mwalling> support is awesome, $ is right
[00:39:10] <growltiger_> i've used linode for years
[00:39:15] <adaptr> wait - you're telling me that he is going to bug the utter FUCKING SHIT out of everybody there with his inanity, right ? ;)
[00:39:20] <growltiger_> execellent vps service
[00:39:30] <mwalling> adaptr: already tried, cruxeternus and i pushed him back in here
[00:39:32] <growltiger_> caker is the owner i think
[00:39:40] <mwalling> growltiger_: CEO :)
[00:39:51] <adaptr> he payeds teh $$ for his l33t LINUKS HOSTERZ and now he wants TEH KNOWITALLZ
[00:40:00] <mwalling> adaptr: lol
[00:40:07] <adaptr> go read a fucking BOOK, moron
[00:40:15] <adaptr> sorry, I can't stand the type
[00:40:47] * shasta stands adaptr
[00:40:49] <mwalling> nope
[00:41:13] <mwalling> growltiger_: i've told caker he needs to have a stupid test to get an account
[00:41:17] <lunaphyte> ggez, i guess that went south after i wandered off, huh?
[00:41:40] <adaptr> like a.. whaddem piccies called agin ?
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[00:41:59] <adaptr> oh, yeah - he needs a DUHCAPTCHA!
[00:42:35] <adaptr> "this site protected from inferior DNA by DUH-CAPTCHA"
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[02:24:03] <activenet> hi guys. I am following the guide at: http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-etch/ and after I test sending emails from telnet smtp i check the mail.log and i see this quirky error: May 28 10:20:14 server dovecot: auth-worker(default): sql(john at example dot com): User query failed: Table 'mailserver.mailbox' doesn't exist any ideas?
[02:24:26] <mwalling> well, does the table exist?
[02:24:53] <activenet> i am follow the guide and it did not ask me to create a table with that name so where is it coming from?
[02:25:27] <mwalling> i smell bs
[02:25:27] <mwalling> http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-etch/#step-3-create-the-database-tables
[02:25:50] <mwalling> if you're going to follow a guide with out knowing what you're doing, ffs follow the guide.
[02:26:59] <activenet> yes there are three tables. virtual_domains virtual_users and virtual_aliases none called mailbox
[02:29:56] <shasta> this is a question for #dovecot, obviously
[02:30:03] <activenet> ok thx
[02:30:13] <mwalling> shasta: but he doesnt know why
[02:30:26] <mwalling> so he's just going to bark up a barkless tree in there too
[02:30:55] <activenet> i know its a conf file somwhere
[02:31:20] <mwalling> Buy the man a drink!
[02:31:25] <unclecameron> be nice
[02:31:34] <mwalling> ignore me
[02:32:52] <mwalling> he obviously missed a step in Signum's tutorial, and the error message tells where.
[02:34:26] <unclecameron> one way or another you have to create the table it's hunting for
[02:34:58] <mwalling> he's got a deer license, but he's hunting rabbit
[02:36:36] <seekwill> Who needs a permit these days...
[02:37:51] <activenet> found it
[02:38:20] <mwalling> activenet: see, deep down inside, arent you glad i was an asshole and didnt tell you the answer?
[02:38:25] <seekwill> Got that wasscally wabbit?
[02:38:48] <activenet> my dovecot-sql,conf file is skewed has a vile user_query line which i need to fix for this guide
[02:39:10] * mwalling pats activenet on the back
[02:39:45] <activenet> can i tell it to recreate the dovecot-sql.file and then edit it properly?
[02:40:10] <rob0> sh be vewy vewy quiet
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[02:40:23] <sahil> rob0: hahaha.
[02:41:13] <shadfc> i just did an upgrade on a debian system and i cant seem to get mail to deliver anymore.  using mysql and virtual domains/alias/mailbox maps.  Anyone care to help me debug this?
[02:41:51] <unclecameron> if you're using clamav there was a debian upgrade to that package which horked the whole system
[02:42:20] <mwalling> activenet: the -sql file is pretty simple, you can recreate it from Signum's tutorial
[02:42:24] <unclecameron> tail you log...best way to find the culprit
[02:42:29] <mwalling> !logs
[02:42:30] <mwalling> !debug
[02:42:32] <knoba> mwalling: "logs" : by default, postfix logs to the mail facility of syslog. Something like grep -i `postconf -h syslog_facility` /etc/syslog.conf or grep -rl `postconf -h syslog_name` /var/log/* should tell you where logs are going.
[02:42:32] <knoba> mwalling: "debug" : http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html : a good starting point for how to deal with problems and to report information to those who might help. Post your information in a pastebin such as http://pastebin.ca/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ .
[02:42:36] <mwalling> shadfc: ^^
[02:43:48] <sahil> shadfc: read the DEBUG_README before asking any more questions here.
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[02:56:42] <activenet> wohoo i fixed it
[02:56:46] <activenet> thx
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[03:03:21] <activenet> ffs now i am getting - server dovecot: user john at example dot com: Logins with UID 5000 not permitted (see first_valid_uid in config file).
[03:03:36] <activenet> this is with telnet localhost pop3
[03:04:10] * shasta stares at this channel's name
[03:04:27] <activenet> ok ok sorry
[03:04:56] <shasta> besides, this error message is *so* self-explanatory
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[03:06:03] <activenet> yeah well not when you go back over the guide and you have done what it says: postconf -e virtual_uid_maps=static:5000
[03:06:05] <activenet> etc
[03:08:47] <shasta> well, I agree that error message is meaningless for an illiterate
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[03:10:16] <shasta> or for people who are trying *very* *hard* not to understand that postfix is a MTA and something completely different than dovecot, courier or cyrus
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[03:11:56] <activenet> fixed
[03:12:18] <activenet> i am learning so be nice :P
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[03:13:52] <mwalling> activenet: this *IS* nice for us
[03:14:27] <shasta> okay, mwalling, your shift. i'm utterly tired with this
[03:14:38] <mwalling> nope, going back to the couch
[03:14:38] <activenet> haha
[03:16:29] * shasta wakes up rob0
[03:16:52] <mwalling> shasta: be nice. he's old
[03:16:56] <mwalling> its past his bed time
[03:18:24] <shasta> you were supposed to be afk, but since you're here - I'm pretty sure you'd be delighted to solve more activenet's issues. :-P
[03:18:41] <shasta> (because I'm sure there are more to follow :>)
[03:18:52] <shasta> I'm off, good luck ;)
[03:18:57] <mwalling> ditto
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[03:49:54] <activenet> i ahave fixed most of them shasta
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[04:33:06] <jonez> greetings.
[04:33:36] <jonez> I am following http://www.postfix.org/SOHO_README.html#client_sasl and wondering if there is a postfix 2.2.x equiv. of  smtp_sasl_type
[04:33:57] <jonez> when I run 'postconf smtp_sasl_type' I get 'warning: unknown parameter' ... any clues appreciated.
[04:34:20] <rob0> Nope.
[04:34:48] <jonez> ok, so the solution is to .... upgrade to 2.3? :)
[04:35:09] <rob0> If upgrading, why not go to the latest stable? 2.3 is ancient.
[04:35:22] <jonez> I typically use whatever is shipped with the linux distro I install
[04:35:39] <jonez> I suppose by now opensuse 11.0 is out, so whatever ships with that is what I will use
[04:35:46] <rob0> 2.3 would do it, yes
[04:35:58] <jonez> how was sasl_auth done in 2.2?
[04:36:09] <rob0> Cyrus SASL only.
[04:36:19] <jonez> ah
[04:36:37] <rob0> oh, but for that matter ... client AUTH is still Cyrus only
[04:36:37] <jonez> since that is what I am using on the machine in question ("eros"), no worries then :)
[04:37:02] <rob0> so you could just check your local copy of SASL_README
[04:37:16] <rob0> and maybe not need to upgrade
[04:37:43] <rob0> There was no SOHO_README back then.
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[04:49:45] <jonez> ok.. I went ahead and set smtp_sasl_security_options = noanonymous and smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes and finally smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd (complete with a run of 'postmap' after installing). according to SASL_README in my distro, this is all that needs to be done
[04:50:06] <jonez> however, I consistently get a message in syslog about not being able to use sasl to authenticate, and the message stays in the local queue.
[04:50:17] <jonez> have I missed something obvious? :)
[04:52:10] <jonez> hmm.. perhaps it is my smtpd.conf (part of the cyrus-sasl) package that has been misconfigured.
[04:52:12] * jonez checks
[04:55:57] <rob0> no, smtpd.conf is for smtpd(8) not smtp(8)
[04:56:47] <rob0> I never used client AUTH in Postfix. I got a static IP.
[05:00:49] <jonez> well, I have a home office behind a cable modem, and a colod machine with a static ip that I want to use for relay of outbound email.
[05:01:01] <jonez> inbound is working great, it's outbound that is br0ked :)
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[05:06:26] <rob0> I use openvpn and relay through the tunnel for that.
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[06:08:39] <bmunat> how does one control the amount of logging for postfix?
[06:09:03] <bmunat> the only config param i've found is debug_peer_log and it does not seem to have any effect
[06:09:58] <hparker> the smtpd line in master.cf needs some v's
[06:10:56] <bmunat> hparker: that controls the logging?
[06:11:16] <hparker> that will turn up the verbosity, I forget the max number of v's though
[06:12:30] <bmunat> oh, mine is way too verbose... hundreds of logging line per email
[06:12:41] <hparker> then check for that
[06:12:46] <bmunat> k, thanks
[06:12:56] <hparker> It should only be a few, depending on filters and such
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[06:14:05] <bmunat> phooey... i only have one v
[06:14:30] <hparker> remove it
[06:14:32] <bmunat> smtp       inet  n       -       n       -       10       smtpd -v
[06:14:36] <bmunat> ah
[06:14:36] <bmunat> coo
[06:14:38] <hparker> ;)
[06:14:38] <bmunat> cool
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[06:15:56] <bmunat> thanks very much
[06:16:11] <brasilino> g'nite
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[06:20:05] <brasilino> wow.... net problems
[06:20:07] <brasilino> but..
[06:20:12] 
[06:20:55] <seekwill> My goodness... yahoo is accepting my mail now... I feel so... powerful
[06:22:16] <brasilino> it makes always postfix accepts mail!
[06:23:47] <seekwill> brasilino: Well, you need to apply other systems in conjunction with DK/DKIM. You can't assume that if a message is signed, it's a good piece of mail
[06:25:45] 
[06:26:20] <seekwill> No, you don't want to reject if the user does not sign mail
[06:26:25] <seekwill> Not everyone signs their mail yet.
[06:26:40] 
[06:26:51] <seekwill> Ask your teacher then :P
[06:27:10] <seekwill> It really is a bad example anyways.
[06:27:12] 
[06:27:28] <seekwill> That's the wrong idea... I'd highly suggest changing your topic
[06:27:44] <seekwill> What you want to do is reject if the signature fails.
[06:27:52] <seekwill> Or if it fails, quarantine it
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[06:29:41] <brasilino> and so on
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[06:30:17] <seekwill> I guess I don't see the point of a wrong example...
[06:30:53] <brasilino> what happens is that I send a not-signed email.. and dkim-milter accepts it
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[07:19:51] <yajith> hi all,
[07:20:59] <yajith> i have a postfix + a content filter, and i want to use sender_bcc_maps
[07:23:06] <yajith> the problem is i keep getting 2 copies on the bcc address..
[07:23:23] <yajith> any ideas in preventing it..
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[07:43:13] <spiekey> Hi
[07:43:33] <spiekey> can you have subdomains in a e-mail address? Such as foo at bar dot example.com ?
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[09:54:19] <a_ok> can i use both mydestination_maps and mydestination at the same time?
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[10:06:16] <a_ok> hello?
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[10:19:33] <f3ew> a_ok mydestination_maps?
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[10:25:28] <a_ok> f3ew: yeah mydestination_maps isn't that what i need if i want it to get stuff from mysql database?
[10:26:56] <a_ok> or it just doesn't exist...
[10:28:21] <a_ok> f3ew: new question. how do i get mysql stuff in mydestinations
[10:29:07] <a_ok> mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-destination.cf?
[10:35:19] <wlx> hi
[10:36:26] <wlx> postfix with sasl2 are installed  in my ubuntu server, everythink work great except smtp auth.
[10:36:59] <wlx> everybody can send mail with my server now
[10:37:37] <wlx> the smtp auth does not working now
[10:37:55] <wlx> the server is upgrade from ubuntu 6.04, now is ubuntu 8.04
[10:38:22] <wlx> so can somebody help me or give me a hint?
[10:39:07] <dragonheart> swap for log/config info only
[10:40:08] <wlx> dragonheart,  are you talking to me?
[10:40:15] <dragonheart> yes
[10:40:56] <wlx> what's meaning of swap for log/config?
[10:41:08] <wlx> you mean the upgrade process?
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[10:41:37] <dragonheart> i'll give yor a hint  if you give log messages and a copy of your config
[10:43:34] <wlx> main.cf http://210.77.68.215/main.cf
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[10:44:22] <wlx> master.cf http://210.77.68.215/master.cf
[10:46:07] <wlx> /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf http://210.77.68.215/smtpd.conf
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[10:49:27] <wlx> /etc/default/saslauthd here: http://210.77.68.215/saslauthd
[10:50:49] <f3ew> a_ok mydestination = mysql:/etc/...
[10:51:02] <dragonheart> logs!
[10:51:39] <wlx> mail.log http://210.77.68.215/mail.log
[10:51:58] <wlx> the log is big
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[10:54:12] <dragonheart> You don't have permission to access /mail.log on this server.
[10:54:22] <dragonheart> quote
[10:54:30] <wlx> sorry, I change the own now.
[10:54:36] <wlx> it should be work now.
[10:55:49] <dragonheart> cut it down next time
[10:58:04] <ekimus_> hmmm "fatal: main.cf configuration error: mailbox_size_limit is smaller than message_size_limit" there are no local users on this system. why is postfix still complaining?
[11:02:30] <wlx> ok, and the auth.log here: http://210.77.68.215/auth.log
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[11:03:22] <dragonheart> can you fix the errors in the auth.log?
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[11:07:40] <wlx> yes, I can,  by remove the comment in the file: /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf
[11:08:13] <wlx> but it seems this does not change anything.
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[11:09:04] <ekimus_> wlx: i think i remember ubuntu has some strange location for smtpd.conf, at least that fixed it for me when i was trying to get a 6.06 running....
[11:09:27] <dragonheart> wlx: well postfix is trying sasl so the error is probably in the config there.
[11:09:34] <dragonheart> in sasl
[11:10:24] <wlx> if I add mysql information in smthd.conf file, the error in auth.log disappeared, but the relay is opened yet
[11:14:34] <wlx> so the new log here: http://210.77.68.215/mail.log
[11:14:42] <wlx> http://210.77.68.215/auth.log
[11:16:44] <wlx> ekimus_,  yes, the smtpd.conf is locate in /etc/postfix/sasl/ directory.
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[11:27:39] <wlx> and I use the command: testsaslauthd -u my at emai dot xxx -p mypwd -f /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd/mux -s smtp
[11:28:00] <wlx> the result is ok: 0: OK "Success."
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[11:48:18] <a_ok> f3ew: i tryed it but it just now the server is not responsive no errors in mail.log just no responce for helo
[11:48:32] <a_ok> when i get the mysql crap out i have an responce again
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[11:50:51] <a_ok> never mind... no mysql support i'm an idiot
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[12:00:05] <aldin> where can i find what every string means in /var/log/mail, e.g. top=0, retr=0, time=0
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[12:06:19] <colo_mobile> I just set up canonical rewriting but it does not work when receiving mail:
[12:06:19] <colo_mobile> to=<j.user at host dot testbyte.com>, orig_to=<juser at host dot testbyte.com>, relay=local, delay=0.12, delays=0.07/0.01/0/0.04, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (unknown user: "j.user")
[12:06:21] <colo_mobile> any pointers why?
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[12:24:12] <wdp> can i reject mails going to mailer-daemon at mydomain dot tld ?
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[12:36:06] <dragonheart> wdp: to another on the same mailserver? - aliases
[12:36:31] <wdp> ?
[12:36:53] <dragonheart> redirect emails to another user on the same emailserver....
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[12:37:01] <wdp> i don't want to redirect mails.
[12:37:12] <wdp> read my question again please ;)
[12:37:14] <dragonheart> sorry - need to read better
[12:37:32] <dragonheart> look at recipent maps and have REJECT as the action
[12:37:39] <wdp> i know "how".
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[12:37:59] <wdp> i'm not sure wether thats safe, thats why i'm asking.
[12:38:41] <dragonheart> its - safe - it does what you want it to do
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[12:41:13] <wdp> so, the mailer-daemon address does not need to accepts mails, yes?
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[13:15:14] <jduggan> welcome cpm
[13:15:32] <cpm> good morning jduggan
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[13:32:43] <kronic> gday guys I've got a problem with sasl auth: here's my thread on a forum: http://www.daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=597
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[13:38:28] <cpm> is the authdaemon path good? does postfix have the correct perms to read it?
[13:38:46] <cpm> is postfix chroot?
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[13:51:22] <wide_awake> Hello
[13:51:48] <wide_awake> is there an easy way to reject incoming mail temporarily?  I'm moving mail server to another machine, and don't want to miss anything
[13:52:19] <wdp> !softbounce
[13:52:21] <knoba> wdp: Error: "softbounce" is not a valid command.
[13:52:23] <wdp> hm
[13:52:26] <wdp> *searching*
[13:53:14] <wdp> soft_bounce @ wide_awake
[13:53:22] <wdp> Safety net to keep mail queued that would otherwise be returned to the sender. This parameter disables locally-generated bounces, and prevents the Postfix SMTP server from rejecting mail permanently, by changing 5xx reply codes into 4xx. However, soft_bounce is no cure for address rewriting mistakes or mail routing mistakes.
[13:53:35] <wdp> thats what you looking for?
[13:53:51] <wide_awake> I don't want to queue it
[13:53:51] <kronic> cpm: postfix has permissions to read smtpd.conf and is not chrooted
[13:53:53] <mwalling> !learn softbounce as Safety net to keep mail queued that would otherwise be returned to the sender. This parameter disables locally-generated bounces, and
[13:53:55] <mwalling>              prevents the Postfix SMTP server from rejecting mail permanently,
[13:53:57] <wide_awake> just want to reject it altogether
[13:53:59] <mwalling>              by changing 5xx reply codes into 4xx. However, soft_bounce is no
[13:54:02] <mwalling> !forget softbounce
[13:54:35] <mwalling> !learn softbounce as Safety net to keep mail queued that would otherwise be returned to the sender. This parameter disables locally-generated bounces, and prevents the Postfix SMTP server from rejecting mail permanently, by changing 5xx reply codes into 4xx. However, soft_bounce is no cure for address rewriting mistakes or mail routing mistakes.
[13:55:30] <wide_awake> anyone here use zoneedit for dns?
[13:56:07] <wide_awake> seems their site is broken at the moment :(
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[13:56:40] <cpm> kronic, does it have permissions to read the authdaemon path?
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[14:00:32] <byspeed> Hi again
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[14:05:39] <byspeed> How can tell postfix that it should not look for local users and it should not deliver the mails to another location than /home/vmail/domain/user ?
[14:06:03] <kronic> cpm: doesn't seem to make a difference I still get the stupid open db error
[14:06:48] <xpoint> byspeed, 42
[14:09:38] <byspeed> Sorry, i dont understand? Google doesnt like this number :P
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[14:13:05] <yajith> wide_awake: reject incoming connections from iptables
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[14:13:26] <wide_awake> yajith: good idea.  that's easy.
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[14:14:28] <byspeed> xpoint: What do you mean with 42? :)
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[14:18:35] <xpoint> byspeed, dont know
[14:18:54] <xpoint> but my dovecot works
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[14:20:31] <byspeed> the local domain is for example katzenklo.org. If i create a virtual domain it works, but d i create the domain with katzenklo.org i annot receive mails
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[14:20:47] <byspeed> they are written to another location
[14:20:55] <wdp> perhaps its because of the domain name.
[14:21:03] <wdp> cattoilette.com would be better
[14:21:08] <wdp> :p
[14:21:13] <byspeed> lol
[14:21:39] <byspeed> well, i need this ending
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[14:26:46] <byspeed> so i need to get that off
[14:26:51] <byspeed> or get that to work
[14:28:38] <lunaphyte_> byspeed: show logs and show postconf -n
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[14:30:54] <byspeed> http://paste.frubar.net/8293/txt <</var/log/mail.log
[14:31:14] <byspeed> it is from yesterday
[14:32:31] <lunaphyte_> that's still the state it's in?
[14:33:25] <byspeed> yes
[14:33:30] <byspeed> it cannot find the user
[14:33:39] <byspeed> i think the problem is, because it is the local domain
[14:34:38] <lunaphyte_> why are you ignoring what postfix is saying?
[14:34:52] <byspeed> i removed it
[14:34:57] <byspeed> the entry kaltmacher.de
[14:35:08] <byspeed> but it is still fact that it doesnt work
[14:35:44] <byspeed> mydestination is now only lcalhost and localhost.de
[14:35:58] <lunaphyte_> oh, so it's not the same then.
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[14:36:03] <lunaphyte_> ok, good.
[14:36:18] <lunaphyte_> so you need to show logs then that reflect the changes you've made, right?
[14:37:20] <byspeed> Well, i did not think that it is this important because it is only a warning, not a fatal... in php warnings are uncritical :)
[14:37:55] <byspeed> i only removed the kaltmacher.de from mydestination... the error is still the same, but without the warnung
[14:38:00] <byspeed> *warning
[14:40:44] <lunaphyte_> whether something is critical or not and whether or not you should fix it are not the same thing.  if you only fix errors/warnings/whatever that you perceive as critical, then you are asking for trouble.
[14:41:14] <byspeed> okay
[14:41:20] <lunaphyte_> so show postconf -n then, and show the current logs.
[14:41:35] <byspeed> okay, one moment
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[14:51:25] <eventi> getting 554 Reject when I try to send using PhpMailer class... my ip is in $mynetworks
[14:51:28] <eventi> any ideas?
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[14:53:46] <ecomp> hi guys, how can i told postfix to hold all incoming mails in the queue still i run 'postfix flush' ?
[14:54:39] <Dominian> header_checks
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[14:54:49] <Dominian> but why would you wanna do that?
[14:55:05] <Dominian> !header_check
[14:55:05] <knoba> Dominian: Error: "header_check" is not a valid command.
[14:55:07] <Dominian> !header_checks
[14:55:07] <knoba> Dominian: "header_checks" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup tables for content inspection of primary non-MIME message headers, as specified in the header_checks(5) manual page.
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[14:55:44] <ecomp> i know the opinion about 'header_checks', but is a command like "postfix XXX" available?
[14:55:58] <Dominian> I don't think so
[14:56:15] <ecomp> the postfix is a relay -> behind a M$ exchange
[14:56:41] <cpm> behind, or in front of?
[14:56:51] * cpm kicks himself for being a jerk
[14:56:56] <ecomp> the postfix is in front the exchange
[14:58:35] <Dominian> I guess I'm still not following what it is you want to accomplish.
[15:02:35] <ecomp> the exchange-admin will stop the delivery from postfix to exchange, but will hold all incoming mails in the queue (for example by a exchange reboot ...)
[15:04:50] <Haris1> ecomp: You mean postfix is a secondary mx for the same domain for which MS Exchange is primary ?
[15:05:27] <Haris1> ecomp: postfix is a backup mail server? ..and Exchange is the primary mail server?
[15:07:09] <ecomp> postfix is the primary mx for 5 domains, check spam and virus and relays only the "clean" mails to the exchange
[15:08:33] <ecomp> the problem is, that the exchange admin has no experience about linux/postfix/amavis... so a simple shell-command would be perfect ;-)
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[15:38:28] <genioreal> what's the best way to look on postfix why a email host is not going outside, or see a queue list or something, any clue?
[15:40:25] <Dominian> logs
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[15:42:43] <shasta> queue list: mailq
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[15:52:42] <LeChacal> i am getting ' postfix/smtpd[7731]: warning: SASL authentication problem: unable to open Berkeley db /etc/sasldb2: No such file or directory' in logs when trying to send email but where/what is telling postfix to look for this file i am using sasl but i want it to look some where else for the data that is in the file it is looking for. And i thought that i had it set up to look where i wanted it.
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[16:06:09] <genioreal> Dominian: i got relay=mail.global.frontbridge.com[213.199.X.X], delay=5, status=bounced (host mail.global.frontbridge.com[213.199.X.X] said: 550 Service unavailable; Client host [200.27.X.X] blocked using 88.blacklist.zap; Mail From IP Banned To request removal from this list please forward this message to delist at frontbridge dot com (in reply to RCPT TO command))
[16:06:53] <Dominian> uhh
[16:06:56] <Dominian> well there's your answer
[16:06:58] <genioreal> what does it mean... witch host is on blacklist ? they got me on blacklist or i got them
[16:07:00] <Dominian> You're being blocked
[16:07:07] <Dominian> They have you.
[16:07:14] <Dominian> That's from you sending to them right?
[16:07:24] <Dominian> If that is you sending tot hem, they've blocked you
[16:07:28] <genioreal> yes to user@domain message
[16:07:38] <Dominian> thent hey are blocking you
[16:07:52] <genioreal> and how can i resolve that?
[16:07:59] <Dominian> although.. that's stupid to have you "forward" the message to them when they are blocking you
[16:08:04] <Dominian> genioreal: read the erro rmessage.. it tells you
[16:08:08] <Dominian> Mail From IP Banned To request removal from this list please forward this message to delist at frontbridge dot com
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[16:09:39] <Dominian> however, makes no sense, unless anything to that address is accepted
[16:09:41] <genioreal> so y copy and paste the message and send it to delist at frontbridge dot com? and how will i know if i got off?
[16:09:46] <Dominian> They ban you.. then want you to forward an email tot hem..
[16:09:53] <Dominian> genioreal: check your logs
[16:09:55] * Dominian shrugs
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[16:13:10] <genioreal> thats the only log message i got with the host that the mail are not sending
[16:13:24] <Egonis> I am getting repetitive Temporary Name Lookup Failures from Amavis and Postfix for myhostname.domain.tld (not literally) -- is this because there is no MX record for this specific host?
[16:13:32] <Egonis> The current MX points to another box on the same domain.tld
[16:13:52] <Egonis> I am trying to set it up as a completely different mailserver, however on the same domain with a specified hostname
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[16:46:26] <krondorl> I have been trying to install postfix with amavis/clamav and postfixadmin.  I searched for howtos but keep finding pieces and nothing complete with version 2.4.6-r2.   Does someone know a more complete howto install site that will help this newbie install postfix??  Thanks.
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[16:47:32] <Jax> hey, is there a way to check if my mail server or IP is in a RBL ?
[16:47:47] <Jax> a friend of mine at gmx is getting my mails in his spam-server folder
[16:51:37] <shasta> yes, just query that RBL :)
[16:51:49] <robtone_> Jax, robtex.com
[16:53:27] <robtone_> Jax, gmx is losing reputation, anyway. Since united internet bought web.de they also bought their brain-damage
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[16:54:27] <Knoedel2> how can i see the time after postfix will resend a mail if it gets a 4xx errorcode ?
[16:54:36] <Knoedel2> postconf | grep ???
[16:55:34] <Knoedel2> !transport_retry_time
[16:55:36] <knoba> Knoedel2: "transport_retry_time" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The time between attempts by the Postfix queue manager to contact a malfunctioning message delivery transport.
[16:55:46] <Knoedel2> this ?
[16:56:52] <shasta> man 5 postconf, see minimal_backoff_time, maximal_backoff_time, queue_run_delay
[16:57:02] <robtone_> Knoedel2,  man qmgr | less +/_backoff
[16:57:11] <robtone_> Knoedel2, but, why do you want to play with it?
[16:57:33] <Knoedel2> i want only find out a default value
[16:57:46] <Knoedel2> what most systems are using
[16:58:33] <Knoedel2> 300s and 4000s
[16:58:35] <Knoedel2> thanks
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[17:03:37] <Jax> thanks robtone_
[17:03:45] <Jax> (was at the post,)
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[17:03:57] <swarog> hello
[17:04:24] <swarog> i keep getting from gmail mx servers "(delivery temporarily suspended: conversation with gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[209.85.135.114] timed out while sending message body)"
[17:04:54] <swarog> till now, i already have over 1000 mails in queue undelivered to gmail only. the thing is neither one mail (small or big) is passing trough to gmail
[17:05:33] <swarog> strange thing is, when i try to send email to gmail mx server manualy by telneting to port 25, from the same server im getting timeouts on, mail is successfully delivered
[17:05:39] <swarog> what could be the catch?
[17:06:14] <Dominian> dunno..
[17:06:19] <Dominian> what does postqueue -p tell you?
[17:06:24] <Dominian> the same thing for the messages that are there?
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[17:06:41] <swarog> "(delivery temporarily suspended: conversation with gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[209.85.135.114] timed out while sending message body)"
[17:06:46] <swarog> bunch of messages. just timeout
[17:06:50] <Dominian> I get that every so often.
[17:06:55] <Dominian> you can try requeing them with postsuper..
[17:07:00] <swarog> well, thats just for gmail, and queue is getting full
[17:07:03] <Dominian> see if it'll fail over to another MX record..
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[17:07:47] <swarog> hmm, just one mx
[17:08:03] <Dominian> eh?
[17:08:10] <Dominian> gmail has numerous MX records
[17:08:14] <Dominian> postsuper -r ALL
[17:08:19] <Dominian> or
[17:08:22] <swarog> Dominian: this one is making problems
[17:08:24] <Dominian> you can specifcy an id
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[17:09:50] <swarog> im quite sure i saw some other gmail MX's timeouting
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[17:11:58] <Dominian> well I'm not seeing any issue with it..
[17:14:41] <myke> most of my mailq is timeouts...
[17:14:49] <myke> (conversation with imt.net.mail2.psmtp.com[64.18.4.11] timed out while sending message body)
[17:15:04] <myke> lost connection with mx3.qwest.net[207.109.18.199] while sending message body
[17:15:52] <myke> no gmail timeouts..
[17:16:07] <swarog> thats kinda strange. why did i get >1000 gmail timeouts than
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[17:41:48] <JoseFR> Hi the permissions on my folders are wrong, how can I reset them please?  http://www.pastebin.ca/1032203
[17:43:56] <shasta> sh /etc/postfix/post-install set-permissions
[17:44:45] <JoseFR> chown: cannot access `/usr/local/man/man1/mailq.1.gz': No such file or directory
[17:45:34] <JoseFR> files are in usr/share
[17:45:53] <shasta> your installation is possibly fucked up
[17:46:20] <myke> I wouldnt worry about man pages...
[17:46:35] <JoseFR> oki
[17:46:52] <myke> google has them al indexed...
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[17:47:33] <myke> however if the man pages are gone... it kinda makes me wonder what els is missing
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[17:48:20] <JoseFR> oh
[17:48:22] <JoseFR> nm
[17:48:25] <JoseFR> error is in master.cf
[17:48:35] <JoseFR> nice that it reported it to mail, makes sense to look there eh.
[17:49:05] <myke>  /var/log/maillog is a good place to look too
[17:49:26] <JoseFR> heh
[17:49:38] <JoseFR> i was missing a space before the -o blah=spamblabla..
[17:49:46] <JoseFR> something so small :P so crucial.
[17:49:51] <JoseFR> ta for the help
[17:50:22] <JoseFR> next question, atm, i have -o content_filter=spamassassin
[17:50:39] <JoseFR> I want to include -o content_filter=dfilt
[17:50:56] <JoseFR> what would be the best method approach please?
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[19:08:00] <cpm> hey, thanks!
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[19:17:45] <SniZ> who have rapidshare account? i really need it!
[19:24:01] <cpm> ?
[19:24:42] <Dominian> eh
[19:24:47] <Dominian> create one
[19:25:03] <Dominian> or just upload your file
[19:25:33] <sysmonk> or create a rapidshare-like service and create as many accounts as you need
[19:25:35] <sysmonk> :P
[19:25:39] <Dominian> heh
[19:25:42] <Dominian> yeah not hard to do
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[19:25:52] * cpm gets sysmonk to do it for him.
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[19:26:28] <sysmonk> cpm: sure, i'll do it... do you remember my account number?
[19:26:30] <sysmonk> ;P
[19:26:48] <cpm> of course, you remember mine don't you?
[19:26:56] * cpm gives sysmonk hparker's info
[19:27:38] <sysmonk> sure i do, it was something in the scope of noreply at something_here dot com
[19:27:46] * hparker has no info... Well, at least none fit to be shared
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[19:34:06] <jelly> sysmonk: _ in the domain part?  Inconceivable!
[19:35:01] <sysmonk> s/_/-/
[19:35:03] <sysmonk> ;)
[19:37:42] <jelly> /exec whois smoething-here.com
[19:37:47] <jelly> FAIL
[19:38:34] <sysmonk> jelly: not fail! dns spoofing
[19:38:34] <sysmonk> ;P
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[19:44:08] <hnsz2002> hi! can everybody help me in mailgraph?
[19:44:34] <hnsz2002> that's a perl program, it's analyze the postfix log
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[19:50:16] <JoseFR> hnsz2002: I use mailgraph cgi
[19:51:14] <JoseFR> google it, its very easy to do, if i can do it im sure 99.9% of other people can
[19:52:41] <hnsz2002> ok, it's work for me
[19:52:48] <hnsz2002> but no caption and no text in grpah
[19:52:59] <hnsz2002> and i not know, why...
[19:53:40] <hnsz2002> in readme write, need rrdtool and it's perl module
[19:54:02] <hnsz2002> rrdtool already installed, but i not find rrdtool-perl package
[19:54:09] <hnsz2002> my server is opensuse 10.3
[19:54:25] <hnsz2002> (rrdtool contains the perl modules?)
[19:54:45] <JoseFR> check your mailgraph.cgi
[19:54:52] <JoseFR> ensure the locations to the pre-reqs are correct
[19:55:06] <JoseFR> also check to see if it has created your RRD files
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[19:56:51] <hnsz2002> yes, patch correct, and i have rrd files... i see the graph
[19:56:57] <hnsz2002> but no text, no caption...
[19:57:22] <hnsz2002> look like: https://92.249.150.18/cgi-bin/mailgraph.cgi
[19:58:09] <shasta> missing fonts? :-)
[19:58:20] <hnsz2002> hmmm :P what fonts?
[19:58:28] <shasta> required fonts :P
[19:59:21] <hnsz2002> ok. what required? :)
[19:59:29] <hnsz2002> that's not in the README
[20:00:42] <JoseFR> oh
[20:00:42] <JoseFR> heh
[20:01:41] <shasta> I've got usr/share/rrdtool/fonts/DejaVuSansMono-Roman.ttf
[20:02:43] <hnsz2002> hmm, my /usr/share/rrdtool is empty :)
[20:03:25] <shasta> blame your distro
[20:03:49] <JoseFR> totaleh.
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[20:09:20] <hnsz2002> thank you for help! :) it's work
[20:09:53] <hnsz2002> i installed the truetype fonts, and create i a symlink in usr/share/rrdtool/fonts/ to font...
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[20:11:21] <stickystyle> hnsz2002: I must comment that choosing anubis as a name for a mail server is quite unique ;-)
[20:11:52] <stickystyle> I may have to use that name for a backup server.
[20:13:40] <hnsz2002> yes, we switched to the Egypt names... we ran out of the Greeks :D
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[20:41:40] <petoj> hi, how can I configure Postfix on Ubuntu Hardy to deliver email from server to other servers please? Everything other goes (example.com->example.com; gmail.com->example.com; but not example.com->gmail.com). It writes, that relay access is denied
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[20:45:48] <sepski> you have to allow relay either with a ip mask or even better with SMTP AUTH
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[20:53:18] <petoj> i tried SMTP AUTH, but it does not authentificate via mysql (I used http://www.howtoforge.com/virtual_postfix_mysql_quota_courier_ubuntu_edgy_p3 - it does not select)
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[21:08:03] <kithpom> what is a good way to stop diciontary attacks on server with failed login attempts?
[21:08:44] <stickystyle> kithpom: SSH?
[21:08:57] <kithpom> no mail login.
[21:09:00] <petoj> kithpom, IDS?
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[21:09:09] <cite> Koushy: Make sure your users chose good passwords.
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[21:09:15] <cite> Koushy: And don't use stuff like fail2ban.
[21:09:28] <stickystyle> sorry, thought i was in another channel :-/
[21:09:30] <cite> There is nothing else you should do.
[21:09:50] <petoj> cite, why not fail2ban?
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[21:10:35] <kithpom> petoj: what is IDS?
[21:10:42] <cite> I consider fail2ban to be harmful because it gets data from one domain (the "logging domain") and enforces rules on a different domain ("host packet filtering domain").
[21:10:56] <cite> Even undergradutae students are taught that this is "a bad thing[tm]".
[21:11:38] <petoj> kithpom, Intrusion Detection System
[21:12:14] <cite> petoj: And as a further remark: If you run, say, Postfix on your mailserver, you do that because you have evaluated it and you trust it. This means you trust a codebase of, say, 80k lines.
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[21:12:46] <cite> Now, if you add fail2ban to this, you suddenly have to trust (a) your operating systems packet filter, (b) the fail2ban code and (c) your own ability to write correct rules.
[21:13:24] <cite> Why on earth should any sane being suddenly trust a codepage twice as large just to get rid of some log messages instead of simply doing the appropriate thing, which is, obviously, force users to choose "good" passwords.
[21:13:30] <cite> s/codepage/code base/
[21:13:41] <petoj> cite, yes, but when I trust, it improvec my security...
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[21:13:55] <petoj> *improves i meant..
[21:14:27] <kithpom> petoj: any particular approach to an IDS?
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[21:14:35] <cite> No, it doesn't improve anything. Security measures have to be "defense in depth", but with simply adding a security measure which relies on host integrity (the host Postfix is actually running too), you don't get defense in depth.
[21:15:00] <cite> Defense in depth would be adding an IDS on a different host.
[21:15:15] <cite> Not runnign fail2ban on the host that runs Postfix.
[21:15:25] <petoj> kithpom, no
[21:15:38] <kithpom> ok, thx
[21:16:45] <petoj> cite, yes, it can be; you told me over :D
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[21:19:54] <kithpom> ok if this is a login issue is it something that I should or could resolve with dovecot or ip rules?
[21:20:21] <cite> kithpom: Make your users choose good passwords.
[21:20:23] <cite> Period.
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[21:26:31] <Koushy> wait what
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[21:40:15] <cite> Can one set "-o relayhost=some.host.name" for a specific smtpd entry in master.cf?
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[23:09:09] <will> does anyone know if there is a way to pass the "propagate_unmatched_extensions" parameter to an smtpd process in master.cf.  For some reason this option is not in the man page for smtpd so it doesnt look like you can just do -o option as usual....maybe this option has to be global :( ?
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[23:16:42] <will> is anyone familiar with this option?
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[23:59:45] <kjs> if i want to run postfix for say 50 domains in a vhost env, and enable greylisting on some domains and not on others how do I go about doing this ?





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