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[02:02:59] <stuuf> anyone familiar with pgsql config?
[02:04:04] <stuuf> i have the database running on a non-default port
[02:04:14] <stuuf> but it seems to have its heart set on using 5432
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[02:17:25] <stuuf> oh i see.. it always adds .s.PGSQL.5432 to unix sockets but tcp hosts can have :port
[02:17:30] <stuuf> only slightly annoying
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[03:02:33] <corporeal> im having difficulty getting postfix to use passwd authentication for smtp
[03:02:37] <corporeal> any suggestions?
[03:02:59] <corporeal> i need it to accept any incoming msgs without auth but require authentication for outgoing mail
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[03:07:07] <sahil> !sasl
[03:07:07] <knoba> sahil: "sasl" : SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.
[03:07:15] <sahil> corporeal: read that.
[03:07:37] <corporeal> thanks
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[03:12:59] <corporeal> 5.7.0 Error: authentication failed: no mechanism available
[03:13:02] <corporeal> o.O
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[03:37:40] <sahil> corporeal: pastebin postconf -n for starters.
[03:37:48] <sahil> and show more logs.
[03:39:06] <corporeal> ok hang on
[03:40:08] <corporeal> http://dpaste.com/51158/ postconf
[03:46:20] * sahil checks
[03:47:59] <sahil> hm.  ok, can you also pastebin a few lines of the authenticated-related error(s) you get in maillog?
[03:48:11] <sahil> and btw, those smtpd_recipient_restrictions look a bit bare!
[03:51:32] <corporeal> heh
[03:52:14] <sahil> and just to be sure, you did follow the SASL_README carefully, right?  from the one line you did paste earlier, it would seem you just did not setup the actual authentication.
[03:53:31] <corporeal> carefully? no. but it should work considering other configs i've seen but i dont know
[03:53:32] <corporeal> http://dpaste.com/51159/
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[04:11:47] <MuddClub_Guest>  can someone help me with smtp authentication through postfix / mysql / virtual users? i used this guide (http://www.howtoforge.com/virtual-users-and-domains-with-postfix-ubuntu-7.10) and everythign works but smtp auth
[04:14:55] <MuddClub_Guest> =[
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[04:20:16] <MuddClub_Guest>  can someone help me with smtp authentication through postfix / mysql / virtual users? i used this guide (http://www.howtoforge.com/virtual-users-and-domains-with-postfix-ubuntu-7.10) and everythign works but smtp auth
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[04:27:48] <Dominian> !sasl
[04:27:49] <knoba> Dominian: "sasl" : SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.
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[05:12:18] <sahil> i wonder how many times we have to type !sasl in here!
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[05:14:10] <Dominian> until people get the point
[05:16:41] <sahil> *ding ding ding ding*
[05:25:06] <corporeal> lol
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[06:01:52] <robboplus> sasl is sex age sex location? :)
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[06:10:35] <vital> hello,
[06:10:39] <vital> for some reason not sure why, my postfixadmin doesnt function. hmm.. got the sql db set right on the setup it checks out ok.. not sure what else i can check..
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[06:45:08] <mudd`Hossam> hello i have set up a virtual mail server following this guide (http://www.howtoforge.com/virtual-users-and-domains-with-postfix-ubuntu-7.10) everything works EXCEPT smtp auth for outgoing mail delivery
[06:46:29] <sjrussel> wow, I've only been here for 5 people and this is the second
[06:46:31] <sjrussel> !sasl
[06:46:32] <knoba> sjrussel: "sasl" : SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.
[06:46:49] <mudd`Hossam> that was probably me earlier,
[06:47:06] <mudd`Hossam> thanks for the response
[06:47:36] * sjrussel doesn't know anything about postfix, but that seems popular
[06:48:05] <mudd`Hossam> perhaps its my smtpd_recipient_restrictions =
[06:48:05] <mudd`Hossam>  ill check on that
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[06:57:25] <lkthomas> hey guys
[06:57:41] <lkthomas> postfix verify user only take the username, but not with domain name
[06:57:43] <lkthomas> anyone have idea why
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[07:19:25] <lkthomas> guys
[07:19:37] <lkthomas> I don't understand why postfix identify user as local not virtual
[07:19:40] <lkthomas> how could I config it ?
[07:23:14] <mudd`Hossam> i might know why i just did this
[07:23:54] <mudd`Hossam> check your mydestination = in main.cf
[07:24:10] <lkthomas> me ?
[07:24:14] <mudd`Hossam> if thats messed up, then postfix assumes you are using system mail
[07:24:29] <mudd`Hossam> lkthomas: yes
[07:24:35] <lkthomas> how do you define "mess up" ?
[07:25:31] <mudd`Hossam> lkthomas: mine reads 'mydestination = sub.domain.com, localhost, localhost.localdomain'
[07:25:44] <lkthomas> May 19 13:22:11 mail postfix/local[4620]: 1C3E116FD9: to=<2 at citylife dot com>, relay=local, delay=0.03, delays=0.01/0/0/0.01, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (unknown user: "2")
[07:25:48] <lkthomas> still using local
[07:26:20] <mudd`Hossam> lkthomas: ah i see, this is not the same problem then
[07:26:31] <lkthomas> it should use postfix/virtual instead of local
[07:26:36] <mudd`Hossam> lkthomas: i don't believe i can help you =[
[07:26:59] <mudd`Hossam> lkthomas: ive set mine up using this http://www.howtoforge.com/virtual-users-and-domains-with-postfix-ubuntu-7.10-p4 but im on ubuntu
[07:27:23] <mudd`Hossam> lkthomas: and im stuck not being able to get smtp authentication, everything else works
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[07:28:33] <Samonoske> I'm having the hardest time ever getting postfix to relay correctly through my isp's smtp server..also i'm using squirrelmail as my web mail client
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[07:33:20] <Samonoske> I checked my logs.. the mail gets relayed to smtp.att.yahoo.com but then it doesn't go out and i get mail delivery error in my inbox.. host smtp.sbc.mail.yahoo4.akadns.net[68.142.229.41] said:
[07:33:21] <Samonoske>     530 authentication required
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[07:33:49] <Samonoske> i have sasl setup....but it still doesn't work..
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[07:39:13] <checkers> Samonoske: sounds like a client error then
[07:39:19] <checkers> it's not authenticating properly
[07:39:36] <checkers> are you sure the supplied credientials are correct? try them by hand
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[07:57:38] <scooby2> anyway to limit mail to a domain from a certain ip? IE: if mail is not for domain X is not from ip Y (mailfoundry), reject it?
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[08:07:28] <f3ew> !restriction_class_readme
[08:07:29] <knoba> f3ew: "restriction_class_readme" : http://www.postfix.org/RESTRICTION_CLASS_README.html
[08:07:32] <f3ew> @ scooby2
[08:08:04] <scooby2> thanks
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[08:12:39] <lkthomas> hmm
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[08:32:06] <HSorgYves> morning
[08:32:36] <HSorgYves> i am getting the following error in policyd, maybe someone has an idea: cache: err: warning: cache:  No such file or directory at /usr/sbin/policyd-weight line 2423, <GEN546> line 24.
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[10:07:36] <Fantec> hello
[10:08:22] <Fantec> is there any way to match an envelop sender and any recipient ?
[10:09:05] <Fantec> (as far as I know but I may be wrong, I do not have the envelop sender in header_checks)
[10:15:20] <cite> header_checks do only see one header at a time. You can't refer to the contents of the preivous/next header in a check.
[10:16:12] <cite> And no, you don't habe access to the envelope sender either, because cleanup or trivial-rewrite might have rewritten it
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[10:28:22] <Fantec> cite: header_checks allows nested patterns so you can match different rules on different headers
[10:29:46] <Fantec> I will be more explicit : I would like to match bounces/autoanswers (envelop sender <>) sent to mailing-list bot (*-request@domain) to reject them
[10:31:04] <f3ew> Fantec do it with smtpd_restriction_classes
[10:31:13] <f3ew> !restriction_class_readme
[10:31:14] <knoba> f3ew: "restriction_class_readme" : http://www.postfix.org/RESTRICTION_CLASS_README.html
[10:32:02] <Fantec> f3ew: tx for the idea (I am probably a noob :-), I will check
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[11:03:35] <padde> (how) can I configure postfix so that for one specific transport (a self-made script) it sends Non-delivery notifications not to the sender, but to the local postmaster?
[11:04:44] <mudd`Hossam> i have set virtual mail and can sent through smtp, but mails aren't making it to certain providers (hotmail.com, @san.rr.com, etc..)
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[11:05:10] <mudd`Hossam> what can i do to fix this? (i have a static ip)
[11:05:39] <padde> mudd`Hossam: i read something about DNS resolution being the problem there... can't remember clearly though
[11:06:17] <mudd`Hossam> padde:  on my end?
[11:06:26] <padde> mudd`Hossam: yes
[11:06:46] <mudd`Hossam> padde: like mx entries ?
[11:07:16] <mudd`Hossam> padde: i've set mail.muddclub.net forwarded to the servers ip, and put mail.muddclub.net in an mx entry
[11:07:19] <mudd`Hossam> =/
[11:10:26] <padde> mudd`Hossam: sorry, i really can't remember... but i saw that recently somewhere...
[11:10:38] <mudd`Hossam> padde: no problem, thank you
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[11:39:53] <Fantec> f3ew: it is working, tx again
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[12:11:41] <padde> again: (how) can I configure postfix so that for one specific transport (a self-made script) it sends Non-delivery notifications not to the sender, but to the local postmaster?
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[12:12:26] <crumblenaut> hi, i want to use virtual mailboxes but with the ability to have some email addresses forwarding to other email addresses, but postfix doesn't seem to like having the same domain listed in both virtual_alias_domains and virtual_mailbox_domains..  virtual mailbox maps get passed to maildrop, but i cant seem to work out how to make email forwards work with virtual mailboxes
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[12:14:12] <cbsmith> crumblenaut: use virtual_mailbox_maps
[12:14:25] <cbsmith> crumblenaut: or virtual_alias_maps
[12:16:21] <crumblenaut> i am using virtual_mailbox_maps
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[12:16:51] <crumblenaut> ah nm i found a howto
[12:22:51] <cbsmith> crumblenaut: okay, I'd love to hear what it says you were doing wrong.
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[12:47:20] <whymarkwh> hi there
[12:48:12] <whymarkwh> need some help setting up postfix to relay mail to exchange server
[12:49:51] <whymarkwh> using a program called elastix that uses postfix to send faxes received to users, i have a lan with a exchange server i just need to route the mail to this server please any help welcome
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[12:52:31] <Matic`Makovec> Hi there. This might not be exactly a postfix question but I'm sure it's somehow related to. I'm woundering whether there's a way of adding an extra line (or at least some text) in the email header with SMTP?
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[12:57:35] <cite> Matic`Makovec: Using header_checks or a policy daemon, you can easily trigger an action like PREPEND X-My-Text: Yarr!
[12:58:30] <cite> Matic`Makovec: You can also call formail -i from example procmail or define it as a transport in master.cf (and then use FILTER in an access map)
[12:58:33] <Matic`Makovec> Heh, thank you :)
[12:58:47] <cite> Matic`Makovec: Or you can write your own milter application.
[12:59:15] <cite> But I'd say something along the lines of /^Subject:.*/ PREPEND X-my-text: yarr! will be the easiest way to achieve that.
[12:59:32] <cite> (that is, given every message you receive has a subject*g*)
[12:59:48] <Matic`Makovec> :)
[13:00:16] <Fantec> a non postfix question : is there anyplace (irc/web) where there are advice about how should behave a SMTP serveur ? (ie sender verify, bounces, etc.)
[13:00:43] <whymarkwh> if my exchange server is: rcc.mail(added in host.conf as  192.168.31.1  rcc.mail) then i added this line in postfix(relayhost=rcc.mail) will this foward all mail to my exchange server(rcc.mail)?
[13:02:33] <cite> whymarkwh: Your setup is described in: http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html#firewall
[13:02:58] <cite> whymarkwh: Sorry, I mean http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html#backup
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[13:03:21] <cite> Anways, the who README should be helpful to you.
[13:05:33] <whymarkwh> is postfix a mailserver or client?
[13:06:10] <cite> Like every other MTA on earth, it has an smtpd server process, but can also deliver mails to other servers, acting as a client.
[13:06:29] <cpm> it's a mail transport agent.
[13:07:29] <whymarkwh> i've tried the setting as i found them on google. i can send mail using postfix to the internet but cant seem to link it to my internal exchange server.
[13:07:56] <whymarkwh> did the hostname and relay host thing just can seem to get it to work
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[13:09:00] <mmp> Hello, is it possible to store contents of .forward file in LDAP directory instead of .forward itself?
[13:09:09] <mmp> (running postfix, of course:)
[13:09:27] <whymarkwh> does all the config changes can make with sendmail rely on the master.cf file?
[13:09:57] <whymarkwh> does all the config changes one can make with postfix rely on the master.cf file?
[13:10:04] <cite> whymarkwh: It's not that hard, really. You need the domain for which Postfix should accept mail in relay_domains, an you need a transport_maps entry like yourcompany.com smtp:[rcc.mail]
[13:10:21] <cite> whymarkwh: No. Please read http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html
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[13:13:36] <cbsmith> cite: Can't you optionally just use relayhost instead of transport_maps?
[13:13:56] <cite> mmp: I'm not aware of a possibilty to do this. You can, however, rewrite recipient addresses using virtual_alias_maps from LDAP...
[13:14:09] <cite> cbsmith: And if he want's to send a message out to the internet...?
[13:14:30] <mmp> cite: situation is that I have vserver running postfix and I don't want to have home dirs mounted there..
[13:14:44] <cbsmith> cite: I thought relayhosts only effected mail addressed to a domain in "relay_domains". Am I messed in the head?
[13:15:17] <cite> cbsmith: I think you are confusing relay_domains and relayhost...
[13:15:45] <cite> mmp: Postfix offers various possibilities when it comes ot virtual hosting. Just look it up in the documentation.
[13:15:53] <cbsmith> cite: I think you are probably right. ;-)
[13:15:54] <Samonoske> checkers are you still here?
[13:16:00] <cite> mmp: http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html
[13:16:30] <mmp> cite: thanks a lot, going to read it :)
[13:18:41] <Samonoske> how do i authenenciate with an outside ser manually?
[13:19:03] <cbsmith> cite: Looks like I should have used relay_transport to do what I wanted.
[13:23:10] <mmp> and one more question -- does mailbox size limiting work also for maildirs ?
[13:24:20] <Samonoske> when i run  :set_auth_mech : unknown authentication mechanism: pam
[13:24:21] <Samonoske> is that bad?
[13:25:44] <mmp> documentation says that virtual_mailbox_limit limits maildir file size -- is it meant as everything unter user's maildir, or is it just size of one message?
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[13:34:41] <checkers> Samonoske: probably, read the SASL page for info one authentication
[13:35:06] <Trengo> does virtual_mailbox_limit actually limit?
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[13:45:21] <DTEIT> hi all
[13:45:32] <DTEIT> one question:
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[13:46:11] <DTEIT> is postfix 2.5 incorporating quota support?
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[13:57:13] <shoonya> hi all
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[13:57:26] <shoonya> how to set domain alias in postfix
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[13:58:03] <shoonya> currently postfix is configured to send/receive mails for myfirstdomain.com, and i have another domain "myseconddomain.com"
[13:58:39] <shoonya> any mail sent to myseconddomain.com should be delivered to the corresponding user in myfirstdomain.com
[13:58:55] <shoonya> can some someone help me on this
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[14:50:46] <Dominian> hrm
[14:51:02] <Dominian> Ok.. what I'm wanting to is probably going to require some help from you guys in here as.. well I've never done it Hehe
[14:51:16] <mwalling> you dumping mailscanner?
[14:51:27] <mwalling> </troll>
[14:52:05] <Dominian> nope
[14:52:41] <Dominian> I have a friend that I do backup mx for.
[14:52:46] <Dominian> Receipient verification all that jazz.
[14:53:01] <Dominian> However, he had a small issue with a power supply this weekend and now his email server is caput for now
[14:53:28] <Dominian> So.. I want to create a second "queue" just for his domain/email addresses that everything for him will go into
[14:53:51] <Dominian> that way he gets no loss of email as its more than likely going to be mroe than 5 days before he gets it back up and running.
[14:54:24] <Dominian> So.. i want postfix to attempt to send first.. if it can't.. shove his email into his "hold" queue for the time being..when everyting comes up.. I'll flush the queue manually then remove it
[14:54:41] <cite> Dominian: http://www.postfix.org/ETRN_README.html
[14:54:43] <Dominian> and also.. I get his email out of the "main" queue
[14:54:46] <Dominian> cite: ahh yes.
[14:54:53] <Dominian> cite: thank you.. I totally freakin' forgot about ETRN
[14:54:59] <cite> ;)
[14:55:22] <Dominian> er.. wait
[14:55:29] <Dominian> wait yeah.. nevermind
[14:55:47] <cite> This way, _he_ can schedule the queing process when his server is up again.
[14:55:53] <cite> (and he's done configuring and stuff)
[14:55:56] <Dominian> true
[14:55:57] <Dominian> but..
[14:56:00] <Dominian> I'm not worried about that
[14:56:04] <cite> but?
[14:56:09] <Dominian> Just want to get the hold queue built so he doesn't lose email..
[14:56:18] <cite> that's how ETRN works
[14:56:21] <Dominian> most of these emails will go bye bye after 5 days if he hasn't accepted it by then.
[14:56:25] <Dominian> oh
[14:56:29] <Dominian> hmmm
[14:56:37] * Dominian feels another tutorial writing coming on
[14:56:40] <Dominian> :)
[14:56:41] <cite> set queue_lifetime a bit higher.
[14:56:48] <cite> do postsuper -r ALL to refresh the mails
[14:56:56] <Dominian> cite: right
[14:57:08] <Dominian> but that will become cumbersome wants he has a few hundred waiting ;)
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[14:57:59] <cite> don't worry, qmgr will live up to the expectations ;)
[14:58:05] <Dominian> yeah
[14:58:11] <Dominian> just never did anything liek this with postfix before
[14:58:15] <Dominian> so its a bit .. scary ;0
[14:58:21] <cite> it's like, erm, four lines
[14:58:30] <Dominian> its still scary!
[14:58:31] <Dominian> :)
[14:58:34] <cite> yeah, okay
[14:58:39] <cite> it probably is
[14:58:49] <cite> but then, girls were kinda scary 20 years ago, too ;)
[14:59:05] <mwalling> girls are still scary for Dominian
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[14:59:15] <Dominian> so etrn creatres a seperate queue away from the main process queue?
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[14:59:58] <cite> Dominian: Nah, all mail get transported to the deferred queue immediately
[14:59:59] <rob0> I scream, you scream ...
[15:00:05] <mwalling> WE ALL SCREAM FOR ICE CREAM!
[15:00:14] <mwalling> (esp. cookie dough)
[15:00:16] <Dominian> cite: hmm
[15:00:33] <cite> Dominian: basically, you create a new transport, call it "etrn-only", you route all mail to your frind through that transport in ntransport_maps and then set defer_transport=etrn-only
[15:00:42] <Dominian> right
[15:02:58] <johndo> How do you handle email retention?
[15:03:23] <mwalling> !always_bcc
[15:03:24] <knoba> mwalling: "always_bcc" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional address that receives a "blind carbon copy" of each message that is received by the Postfix mail system.
[15:03:46] <johndo> I looked at always_bcc, http://www.irbs.net/internet/postfix/0205/0380.html indicates that it "does not preserve envelope recipients"
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[15:05:11] <empiric>  Recipient address rejected: Greylisted for 450 seconds (see http://isg.ee.ethz.ch/tools/postgrey/help/denso.co.jp.html) (in reply to RCPT TO command)
[15:05:17] <empiric> what this error mean
[15:05:43] <johndo> empiric: greylisting is a spam filtering technique
[15:05:58] <roe_> !postgrey
[15:05:58] <knoba> roe_: Error: "postgrey" is not a valid command.
[15:06:12] <roe_> doh
[15:06:15] <empiric> so
[15:06:22] <empiric> its used by other side
[15:06:23] <johndo> it rejects the first attempt with a "server busy" message to see if the the sender will try again
[15:06:34] <johndo> most spam servers will never try again
[15:06:45] <johndo> if the sender does try again "
[15:07:15] <johndo> (within the right time period), the recieving server will add the sender to an internal whitelist for some amount of time
[15:07:27] <johndo> !sqlgrey
[15:07:28] <knoba> johndo: Error: "sqlgrey" is not a valid command.
[15:08:35] <mwalling> !greylisting
[15:08:36] <knoba> mwalling: Error: "greylisting" is not a valid command.
[15:09:10] <johndo> empiric: If you are getting that message from another server, you are not doing anything wrong.
[15:09:25] <johndo> The message will get through eventually.
[15:09:28] <empiric> but i can not send and recieve email from that domain
[15:10:02] <johndo> you can't recieve messages at that domain?
[15:10:50] <empiric> i ca not send msg to that domain also i can not recieve any email from that domain
[15:10:54] <empiric> whats the solution
[15:11:31] <johndo> If you can not send messages to that domain, and are getting the greylisted message, it should eventually get through
[15:11:43] <johndo> assuming your smtp server is rfc compliant
[15:12:17] <johndo> as for recieving, check the logs on your local smtp server to see of their server is even making a connection attempt
[15:12:19] <empiric> get through but when user are complaing they can not recive emails from that domain since last 4 days
[15:12:27] <empiric> i am running postfix
[15:12:32] <empiric> its rfc?
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[15:13:51] <johndo> yeah, should be
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[15:15:27] <johndo> so no useful info on email retention methods?
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[15:16:13] <krins> johndo
[15:16:16] <krins> any cure?
[15:16:38] <johndo> krins: regarding?
[15:16:47] <krins> this grey listing
[15:17:30] <krins> am empiric
[15:17:35] <krins> my user can not send imp emails to that domain
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[15:17:49] <krins> due to  Recipient address rejected: Greylisted for 450 seconds (see http://isg.ee.ethz.ch/tools/postgrey/help/denso.co.jp.html) (in reply to RCPT TO command)
[15:18:20] <johndo> just make sure postfix tries to resend the message after 5 minutes
[15:18:31] <krins> where i set this
[15:18:36] <krins> retry thing in postfix
[15:18:46] <roe_> krins, is your user getting a dsn?
[15:18:55] <johndo> it should setup already
[15:19:04] <krins> yes
[15:19:12] <krins> dns is used internally and globally
[15:19:25] <roe_> what is the error number? 4xx or 5xx?
[15:19:53] <krins> 450
[15:20:01] <roe_> that is correct
[15:20:17] <krins> if its already set then my my user can not send emails since last 3 days
[15:22:36] <krins> what i do then
[15:22:53] <krins> plz tel
[15:22:53] <krins> my users r complaing since 3 days
[15:23:53] <seekwill> Contact the postmaster
[15:24:51] <krins> johndo?
[15:24:51] <krins> roe?
[15:25:06] <johndo> contact the postmaster for the server you are sending too.
[15:27:25] <krins> guys?
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[15:30:15] <krins> who the other domain postmaster?
[15:30:23] <krins> ok
[15:30:38] <krins> to=<ahamid at otherdomain dot com>, relay=mxvm1.mail.yahoo.com[67.28.113.14]:25, delay=5.2, delays=4.2/0.01/1.1/0, dsn=4.0.0, status=deferred (host mxvm1.mail.yahoo.com[67.28.113.14] refused to talk to me: 421 Message from (myip) temporarily deferred - 4.16.50. Please refer to http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-06.html)
[15:30:38] <krins> what this error mean?
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[15:31:08] <seekwill> It means you were temporarily deferred and you should read that website
[15:31:23] <cyr-> Hi, I am running mailman 2.1.9 and its working fine, except I cannot seem to get virtual hostname to work, when I send mail to testlist at mail dot mydomain.com it works, but I want it to work also with testlist at mydomain dot com
[15:36:28] <rob0> krins, before asking, did you refer to http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-06.html as the message said?
[15:36:43] * cpm screams at rob0
[15:37:49] <krins> yes it says temporary defered
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[15:37:53] <krins> duto spam
[15:38:01] <krins> but i just send a test msg
[15:38:18] <rob0> !yahoo
[15:38:19] <knoba> rob0: Error: "yahoo" is not a valid command.
[15:38:54] <rob0> Yahoo does throttling, and generally the mail will go through without postmaster intervention.
[15:40:15] <rob0> Their "4.16.50" means (so they say) that their users have complained about you. But that is a lie in most cases.
[15:40:41] <krins> roo what i do if i want my ostfix to resty some emails aftre 5 mins
[15:40:41] <krins> like i get an greylist error
[15:40:41] <krins> the other server is not accepting my email just b/c they do greylist but my server needs to resend how i check its resending
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[15:41:23] <krins> so i cannot do
[15:41:26] <krins> any thing
[15:41:54] <seekwill> Welcome to the world of mail administration :)
[15:42:05] <krins> ok fine what this error mean robo
[15:42:18] <krins> v
[15:42:18] <krins> Recipient address rejected: Greylisted for 450 seconds (see http://isg.ee.ethz.ch/tools/postgrey/help/denso.co.jp.html) (in reply to RCPT TO command)
[15:42:30] <krins> how i send email to that domain
[15:42:30] <krins> and also recieve
[15:42:53] <rob0> You can crack into the remote site and fix it yourself. Might not be easy, good luck.
[15:43:13] <rob0> The questions you are asking indicate that you have no clue about how mail works.
[15:43:14] <seekwill> Just try to resend after 450 seconds..
[15:43:32] <seekwill> And not anytime sooner
[15:43:38] <seekwill> Or else!
[15:44:00] * mwalling </3 greylisting
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[15:44:18] <krins> robo
[15:44:22] <krins> plz help
[15:44:25] <krins> what to do
[15:44:43] <krins> that not my mail server issue
[15:44:51] <seekwill> Let someone else handle it :)
[15:45:39] <krins> but this i can see in logs my user can not see
[15:45:49] <krins> and we are sending again and again
[15:45:58] <mwalling> Signum: Database access error :( on http://workaround.org/cgi-bin/factoids?c=postfix
[15:46:02] <seekwill> Ever thought about outsourcing?
[15:46:07] <mwalling> !googleapps
[15:46:08] <knoba> mwalling: "googleapps" : Google Apps - http://www.google.com/a/ - A free service provided by Google to have your email and other services hosted by them
[15:46:56] <seekwill> mwalling: hehe, I'm going to start putting :( in my user-facing error messages
[15:47:07] <rob0> If a site won't take your mail there is no way you can force them to do so.
[15:47:34] <rob0> !fcrdns
[15:47:35] <knoba> rob0: "fcrdns" : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_Confirmed_reverse_DNS : very important if you want big sites to accept your mail. If you can't have it from your ISP, see !relayhost .
[15:47:48] <mwalling> rob0: insert a condition about not being a crazy SoB in that statement
[15:47:51] <rob0> ^^ that's important, but no guarantee
[15:48:01] <mwalling> rob0: i'm sure there are people out there that could force it :)
[15:48:16] <rob0> but that would be off-topic here :)
[15:48:21] <mwalling> :)
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[15:49:53] <krins> robo
[15:49:57] <krins> any cure for me
[15:50:24] <f3ew> patience, young padawan
[15:50:31] <f3ew> !greylisting
[15:50:31] <knoba> f3ew: Error: "greylisting" is not a valid command.
[15:50:34] <jduggan> would anyone like to recommend some kind of milter app (or other method) that can add footers to mail bodies on a per domain basis?
[15:50:36] <f3ew> !graylisting
[15:50:37] <knoba> f3ew: Error: "graylisting" is not a valid command.
[15:50:50] <f3ew> jduggan altermime, the howtos can be googled
[15:50:57] <f3ew> !disclaimer
[15:50:59] <knoba> f3ew: "disclaimer" : You want to add a disclaimer to every email because your boss wants you to do that? Try altermime (http://www.pldaniels.com/altermime/)
[15:51:04] <jduggan> thanks
[15:51:23] <rob0> heh, that one should have the goldmark page too
[15:51:51] <rob0> http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/
[15:53:52] <jduggan> yea they sure suck but people want them
[15:54:12] <rob0> s/people/fools/
[15:54:23] <jduggan> id like something that could be configurable either per SASL username or per group of sasl usernames
[15:58:37] <jduggan> where i can lookup $group via a mysql query =]
[15:58:40] <jduggan> maybe im asking too much :P
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[16:12:34] <cite> gnah. Not again.
[16:12:43] <cite> service "smtpd" (25) has reached its process limit "400": new clients may experience noticeable delays
[16:13:00] <cite> ps -ef | grep -c -- "stress=y" yield an amazingly 400!
[16:14:06] <cite> Well, at least now I know why I tested that stress patch the day it came out.
[16:14:17] <rob0> What's happening? A backscatter flood?
[16:15:17] <cite> No. Just a already heavily loaded MX for medium sized company which is getting it's fair share of viagra ads, proudly brought to you by Joe Innocent User's dialup connection
[16:15:33] <cite> Happens once a month or so.
[16:15:46] <cite> Backup MXs can handle legitimate mail. Annyoing, not a real problem.
[16:15:49] <rob0> and you're fighting them off with Zen, right?
[16:16:06] <cite> Our volume is way too high for spamhaus.
[16:16:26] <rob0> it would be well worth paying for :)
[16:17:07] <cite> Hey, I read that STRESS_README thoroughly - ther's just not much I can do better.
[16:17:20] * cpm screams
[16:17:27] <cite> My restrictions are even grouped the way you personally suggested ;)
[16:17:39] <rob0> :)
[16:18:53] <cite> But this yields something good - I think today I will finally make a new record on DNS queries per day.
[16:19:16] <seekwill> What would that be?
[16:19:30] <cite> For me that's 65 million.
[16:19:33] <cite> Ok, 65000001.
[16:19:44] <seekwill> What name server do you use?
[16:20:04] <cite> powerdns-recursor, running soothly at 70% CPU load at about 6500 qps.
[16:20:08] <cite> smoothly*
[16:20:20] <seekwill> Is it on the same box as the MTA?
[16:20:29] <seekwill> And 70% of what? :)
[16:20:53] <cite> Old P4 Xeon, dedicated box, local server is using nscd, thinking about swiching to an lwres style stup.
[16:20:54] <rob0> you might want to have your nameserver on a separate box.
[16:21:06] <cite> Do I really look that stupid? ;)
[16:21:21] * cpm isn't sure how to answer that one.
[16:22:00] <rob0> um, gigabit is almost as good as loopback
[16:22:20] <rob0> and you would spread out your load
[16:22:23] <cite> Well, tbh, there _was_ a time when I was just running bind locally.
[16:22:32] 
[16:22:48] <seekwill> lol.. powerdns's site "conforms to all relevant DNS standards documents"... relevant...
[16:22:50] <rob0> oh! it IS a separate box
[16:23:02] <cite> rob0: old P4 Xeon
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[16:23:48] <rob0> mine always have the Postfix and named on the same box, but I don't get loads like yours.
[16:23:56] <cite> IT budget was a bit... "low" this year.
[16:24:18] <crumblenaut> what package does the 'newaliases' command come with?
[16:24:23] <crumblenaut> doesn't seem to be included with postfix itself
[16:24:45] <seekwill> sendmail?
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[16:25:15] <crumblenaut> so i have to install sendmail to get the newaliases command on a system that uses postfix?
[16:25:16] <crumblenaut> genius
[16:25:23] <seekwill> cite: Did your company evaluate BIND? Just wondering how that compared to PowerDNS
[16:25:33] <cite> rob0: The mail servers themselves are not having any real trouble. THere isn't much of that spam going through. I'm just limited in terms of memory, that's why I enforce that 400 process limit.
[16:26:11] <cite> seekwill: Erm, well, that's tricky. We have some strict procedures set up on which operating systems (read: linux dsitributions) we use.
[16:26:22] <mwalling> slackware?
[16:26:25] <seekwill> crumblenaut: From what I understand (though I could be totally wrong), /etc/aliases is a "sendmail" thing. I don't even use aliases in my postfix setup...
[16:26:30] * mwalling ducks
[16:26:49] <seekwill> cite: Oh, powerdns comes with your distro?
[16:26:50] <cite> seekwill: And, well, most of the time, just compiling stuff from sources isn't an option. So yes, we did evaluate, and it bind9 locked up every single time when we hit 4k qps.
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[16:27:18] <seekwill> What about bind8? We evauluated both bind's and 8 performed better than 9
[16:27:37] <seekwill> Though I don't know what kind of qps we've seen from bind in general
[16:27:45] <seekwill> (I never looked..)
[16:28:20] 
[16:28:37] <cite> So, erm, I just never bothered to actually look at version 8.
[16:29:02] <rob0> bind 8? Weird.
[16:29:16] <seekwill> hehe
[16:30:35] <seekwill> cite: Just curious. :)  Always a good thing to keep eyes open on new stuff
[16:31:36] <cite> We had djbdns dnscache (epoll patched) cruising that test box at 9k qps like it was a damn oldsmobile on a freeway down in Ne MExico.
[16:31:57] <f3ew> crumblenaut Postfix provides newaliases
[16:32:01] <cite> But I'd rather rip my head off with my bare hands before I run djb software.
[16:32:18] * f3ew is liking powerdns
[16:32:19] <seekwill> lol
[16:32:25] <f3ew> at least, as an authoritative NS
[16:32:37] * cpm prefers staplegunning his toes to the floor to ripping his head off.
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[16:33:03] <f3ew> cpm so BIND 4?
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[16:34:14] <cpm> don't run bind4 anymore.
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[16:35:37] <cite> Have any of you already had a closer look at that new greylisting policy server? Gross?
[16:35:57] <albech> hi guys. I'm looking for a good log parser for postfix that can give domain specific statistics of each virtual domain
[16:35:59] <sysmonk> bind4? errrr
[16:36:17] <sysmonk> f3ew: are you runing linux 2.0.x ? :P
[16:36:39] <cite> f3ew: There you have it, that joke was, like, totally wasted ;)
[16:36:52] <seekwill> heh
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[16:39:42] <cite> They clain they can do 100 million policy queries per day on a single box.
[16:39:55] <cite> And it can synchronize it's database with one other server.
[16:40:12] <cite> without an external SQL backend
[16:40:22] <cite> that sounds quite impressive
[16:42:12] <f3ew> cite, what backend are they using, and does it survive a reboot?
[16:42:17] <f3ew> or service restart
[16:43:00] <Trengo> berkeley db or sqlite
[16:43:14] <sysmonk> oracle!
[16:43:15] <sysmonk> ;))
[16:43:19] <cite> f3ew: They are writing the state of their bloom filters to some kind of flat file.
[16:43:34] <cite> this is some wierd mathematical stuff they are doing
[16:43:40] <Trengo> f3ew im going to change from bind to bind+dlz instead of pdns
[16:43:55] <cite> "dlz"?
[16:44:01] <Trengo> dynamic load zone
[16:44:08] <Trengo> zones stored in SQL
[16:44:14] <sysmonk> (and not only sql)
[16:44:24] <Trengo> and loaded on request not on startup
[16:44:25] <cite> ah, ok, authoritative then
[16:44:34] <Trengo> and recursive too
[16:44:46] <Trengo> sysmonk indeed, but im interested in SQL :)
[16:45:47] <f3ew> Trengo we are moving from DLZ to PDNS
[16:46:09] <sysmonk> lol
[16:46:25] <Trengo> are you unhappy with DLZ?
[16:46:34] <f3ew> not fast enough
[16:46:45] <f3ew> pdns == dlz + in-memory cache
[16:47:02] <f3ew> not as good as raw bind in terms of performance, but good enough
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[16:47:29] <Trengo> hmmm interesting
[16:47:35] <Trengo> what are you using as backend?
[16:48:05] <f3ew> PostgreSQL
[16:48:19] <sysmonk> f3ew: how much domains are you hosting? anda re you talking about recursive or auth?
[16:48:39] <f3ew> sysmonk auth, right now, about 300K odd
[16:48:43] <f3ew> adding a cctld
[16:50:50] <sysmonk> we're thinking of cctld too
[16:51:07] <f3ew> which one?
[16:51:12] <sysmonk> .lt
[16:51:16] <f3ew> neat
[16:51:29] <sysmonk> that is, becoming one of .lt nameservers
[16:51:35] <f3ew> ah
[16:51:39] <sysmonk> not our own :)
[16:51:49] <f3ew> we would be NS + registry
[16:52:00] <sysmonk> nice
[16:52:03] <sysmonk> what cctld?
[16:52:06] <f3ew> pw
[16:52:14] <sysmonk> pwn3d
[16:52:15] <sysmonk> ;)
[16:52:31] <f3ew> heh
[16:52:50] <sysmonk> f3ew: hm, .pw is already there
[16:53:27] <sysmonk> or is it you already ? :P
[16:53:42] <sysmonk> ye, you.
[16:54:39] <f3ew> yup
[16:55:00] <sysmonk> ye, i can see :)
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[16:55:06] <sysmonk> atleast change the wasssup :)
[16:55:07] <Trengo> palau?
[16:55:28] <f3ew> yes
[16:55:38] <sysmonk> first time i hear that btw ;)
[16:55:42] <f3ew> sysmonk, it isn't officially launched yet
[16:56:08] <Trengo> f3ew but you're not there, are you?
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[16:58:01] <Bitruder> Any idea why I keep getting this error when sending email? 452 4.3.1 Insufficient system storage
[16:58:12] <sysmonk> Bitruder: cause you're out of space? :)
[16:58:32] <f3ew> Trengo hehe
[16:58:51] <f3ew> $employer signed a contract
[16:59:21] <sysmonk> f3ew: you're going to Paulau ? :)))
[16:59:23] <sysmonk> palau*
[16:59:47] <Bitruder> sysmonk:  I have 1.5GB free
[16:59:56] <sysmonk> Bitruder: on /var ?
[17:00:06] <seekwill> Bitruder: Where are you seeing that?
[17:00:09] <rob0> Many (most?) small country CCTLD's are administered elsewhere.
[17:00:16] <Bitruder> yup
[17:00:34] <Bitruder> My email client attempts to send mail through postfix
[17:00:36] <rob0> I'd sure like to get my own TLD.
[17:00:40] <Bitruder> and postfix returns that error
[17:00:51] <seekwill> To your MUA?
[17:00:54] <Bitruder> MUA?
[17:00:59] <seekwill> Your mail client
[17:01:06] <f3ew> no
[17:01:19] <f3ew> what rob0 said
[17:01:23] <Bitruder> my mail client is on the same drive
[17:01:40] <sysmonk> Bitruder: can you postconf -n and pastebin the output?
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[17:01:52] <Bitruder> The full error is: Exception thrown while sending email: Expected response code(s) [250] but got response [452 4.3.1 Insufficient system storage]
[17:01:53] <Bitruder> and sure
[17:02:17] <Bitruder> It was working for months and this just started happening
[17:02:26] <seekwill> df -k? :)
[17:03:10] <Bitruder> http://pastebin.com/d2f63f743
[17:03:15] <Bitruder> Both outputs are there
[17:04:23] <seekwill> Seems like the server you are sending out to is giving that error...
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[17:05:37] <PodMan99a> hey all how can i deliver my spam to a mysql table?
[17:05:40] <sysmonk> Bitruder: postconf message_size_limit
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[17:06:00] <sysmonk> PodMan99a: postfix doesn't support storing emails in database, except auth / maps
[17:06:07] <sysmonk> PodMan99a: but you might be interested in dbmail
[17:06:29] <PodMan99a> thanks sysmonk  i will have a look
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[17:10:05] <sysmonk> Bitruder: quite long time period to do one command :)
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[17:12:55] <PodMan99a> can i do header checks on a message if header matches pass through seperate main.conf application passing mail to address and mail content
[17:13:36] <Bitruder> sorry, my cat dumped his food everywhere
[17:14:04] <Bitruder> message_size_limit = 10240000
[17:14:25] <seekwill> lol
[17:14:32] * seekwill misses his cat :(
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[17:16:58] <sysmonk> Bitruder: you sure those variables aren't overriden in master.cf  ?
[17:17:33] <Bitruder> I can't see them in master.cf or main.cf
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[17:18:35] <Trengo> f3ew where do you think is nicer? palau or mumbai?
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[17:23:20] <Bitruder> I think this might not be postfix specific
[17:23:23] <Bitruder> but a spool problem
[17:25:46] <Bitruder> nope, nevermind
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[17:46:21] <Ramattack> Hi mates!
[17:46:58] <Ramattack> could you know where could I find good documentation about how mx are handled when rejects like 5xx or 4xx happen?
[17:49:20] <mwalling> the RFC?
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[17:49:44] <Ramattack> where could be found the mail servers rfc?
[17:50:53] <mwalling> g o o g l e
[17:51:07] * cpm continues to scream
[17:52:02] <Ramattack> g o o g l e is called the rfc? :p lol founded it :) thanks mate
[17:53:49] <Ramattack> bye mates was just if you knew a concret place to obtain this answers :), reading the rfc... see u!!
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[18:12:28] <SteveC> Why would postfix be refusing to relay from a localhost connection?  smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks permit_sasl_authenticated reject_unauth_destination reject_unknown_recipient_domain reject_unverified_recipient, mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8
[18:13:16] <rob0> show the rejection in log
[18:14:31] <SteveC> oh yes, that would have been a better idea than just asking a question.  Better idea then - why isn't localhost being reported as localhost?  I take it it looks up the HELO if supplied?
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[18:15:33] <SteveC> sorry :)
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[18:58:23] <jduggan> cyrus sasl's smtpd.conf.. can you have more than one sql_select: line?
[18:58:48] <jduggan> so two statements must return
[18:59:48] <devdas> no
[18:59:59] <devdas> use a join
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[19:05:29] <SethX> re all
[19:05:44] <SethX> i've got smtp auth active and running
[19:06:02] <mwalling> !ask
[19:06:03] <knoba> mwalling: "ask" : If you have a question, just ask. Precise questions lead to precise answers. Vague descriptions of your problem will get you nowhere. See also: http://workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc
[19:06:12] <SethX> but when outlook or mail tries to send mail through, the logs just say that the connection died after ehlo
[19:06:48] <SethX> yet if i telnet to the smtp, and manually "auth ...." it authorizes properly and gives access
[19:07:09] <SethX> anybody got an idea on what could be causing this?
[19:07:32] <SethX> mwalling: typing takes time, sometimes... sorry :)
[19:07:43] <mwalling> !debug
[19:07:44] <knoba> mwalling: "debug" : http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html : a good starting point for how to deal with problems and to report information to those who might help. Post your information in a pastebin such as http://pastebin.ca/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ .
[19:08:14] <rob0> !outlook
[19:08:15] <knoba> rob0: Error: "outlook" is not a valid command.
[19:08:22] <SethX> its also apple mail
[19:08:25] <SethX> not just outlook
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[19:09:17] <SethX> http://pastebin.com/d7bbd7c5d
[19:09:21] <SethX> thats the log output
[19:09:29] <SethX> pretty much no information in there.
[19:10:17] <SethX> unless there is a way i can raise verbosity in the logs to see the commands which get sent.. ?
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[19:11:00] <rob0> Since Apple mail has the same problem, I'd guess you have a lower-level problem: networking, or maybe even a proxy in the way. Is this on port 25?
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[19:12:06] <SethX> yes, on 25. and no proxies in between
[19:12:12] <SethX> firewall is set properly
[19:12:29] <SethX> and no port blocks/limitations from the isp
[19:12:52] <SethX> funny thing, is that if i disactivate authorisation, i can send mail to my domain, no problem
[19:13:00] <rob0> The only command that was sent was EHLO.
[19:13:05] <SethX> as soon as i activate auth again, it dies
[19:14:07] <SethX> this is what ehlo replies : http://pastebin.com/d7c80dcc5
[19:14:23] <SethX> i notice that "auth" is not a string supplied by ehlo
[19:14:34] <SethX> is that ok, or could that be causing the problem?
[19:14:40] <rob0> probably because you told it to require TLS
[19:15:00] <rob0> Funny thing, but Postfix does what you tell it to do :)
[19:15:06] <Dominian> hehe
[19:15:18] <Dominian> hehe my buddy broke is backupmx
[19:15:23] <Dominian> so any emails I DID have.. bounced
[19:15:24] <rob0> now if I could get /dev/wife to do that ...
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[19:15:42] <Dominian> he removed his main MX record from DNS>. suddenly.. my mailserver became the main MX and the configuration bounced the mails
[19:15:49] <Signum> mwalling: factoids on workaround should be fixed now
[19:16:10] <mmp> Hello (again) is there any way to generate per-user mailbox_size_limit table, and ideally store this table into some database (e.g. LDAP) ? I can't use native quota system because, I'm running in debian vserver which is missing vroot support...
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[19:18:21] <SethX> rob0: so, disactivate tls ?
[19:18:47] <SethX> i mean, it does accept "auth" as a string
[19:19:16] <rob0> Um, TLS with AUTH is a fabulous idea. But you have to get both working.
[19:20:08] <SethX> so, basically, i should disactivate tls..
[19:20:24] <SethX> is there any backdraw on that?
[19:22:03] <rob0> Sure. You make your auth credentials vulnerable to sniffing. It might never matter, but you never know. Personally I keep AUTH (and IMAP) over encrypted or secure channels only, but that's up to you if you don't mind the risk.
[19:24:43] * cpm never sniffs rob0
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[19:25:12] <SethX> so, basically, if starttls is being sent
[19:25:18] <SethX> it means that something is wrong with auth
[19:25:20] <SethX> right?
[19:25:29] <jduggan> is there anyway to use access maps to restrict sasl user->mail from address via a mysql map? or is this something i need to pass to a policy daemon
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[19:26:44] <rob0> reject_login_sender_mismatch
[19:27:21] <jduggan> i'd like to limit rhs to specific sasl users, and possible lhs+rhs to one user, i can see this is easy for policy api, but is there a quick method that will save me the evening writing a policy daemon
[19:27:41] <jduggan> rob0: never heard of it, neither has google
[19:27:44] <jduggan> =]
[19:28:00] <albech> anyone know a good log parser that support virtual domains?
[19:28:05] <jduggan> ah
[19:28:08] <jduggan> _authenticated_
[19:28:10] <jduggan>  ?
[19:28:44] <rob0> !google
[19:28:46] <knoba> rob0: "google" : Those who use Google before reading the Postfix documentation, if fortunate, end up at http://www.postfix.org/ . If not, they end up in a jumble of bad questions, misleading or wrong answers, and outdated information.
[19:28:53] <rob0> reject_sender_login_mismatch
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[19:29:52] <jduggan> smtpd_sender_login_maps
[19:30:25] <jduggan> Optional lookup table with the SASL login names that own sender (MAIL FROM) addresses.
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[19:37:02] <jduggan> thanks rob0
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[19:49:27] <victori_> any mail gurus?  if my mailserver is on mail.fabulously40.com should the RDNS record point to fabulously40.com or mail.fabulously40.com ?
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[19:49:53] <quieteyes> RDNS should ALWAYS point to the hostname
[19:50:03] <mwalling> !fcrdns
[19:50:04] <knoba> mwalling: "fcrdns" : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_Confirmed_reverse_DNS : very important if you want big sites to accept your mail. If you can't have it from your ISP, see !relayhost .
[19:50:28] <victori_> so mail.fabulously40.com?
[19:50:54] <quieteyes> yes - another way to think about it - what does your MX for your TLD say, ie. what is the hostname in the MX that accepts mail?
[19:51:30] <victori_> mail.fabulously40.com
[19:51:57] <victori_> mail.localdomain  which is incorrect
[19:52:17] <quieteyes> mail.localdomain should only appear in the zone file for localdomain :)
[19:53:08] <victori_> ?
[19:53:42] <victori_> hmm this brings me to my next question, I can't possibly have an ip address that reverses to various hostnames can I?
[19:53:44] <quieteyes> don't worry about it - just pull the mail.localdomain from the records for fabulously40.com
[19:54:01] <quieteyes> sure you can, just don't expect a consistent response from the DNS server :P
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[19:54:53] <quieteyes> just like forwards, you can have as many reverse addresses as you like  but the DNS server returning that response will have a tendency to give what it "thinks" is the right one
[19:55:11] <quieteyes> easier to just bind a single IP to a name
[19:55:18] <quieteyes> there are ways around that however
[19:55:27] <victori_> ya except they only give out oh so many ip addresses at a colo
[19:55:53] <quieteyes> what you do is for a different domain - say nifty50.com - is you say that the mail exchanger is mail.fabulous40.com - even though it's not in the same domain
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[19:56:05] <victori_> ah
[19:56:28] <quieteyes> then you set up the mail exchanger to accept mail for your primary domain, and you set up the other as a virutal domain, etc.
[19:56:33] <victori_> quieteyes: so how do I go about reconfiguring postfix to respond with the correct hostname? don't see localname anywhere in main.cf
[19:57:17] <victori_> myhostname?
[19:57:25] <quieteyes> victori_, you will want the mail exchange to ALWAYS respond with the exact hostname that you have assigned in DNS, it doesn't matter how many domains it answers for, it only matters that the forward and reverse records match correctly
[19:58:03] <quieteyes> !standard
[19:58:03] <knoba> quieteyes: "standard" : Your question is probably answered in http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html
[19:58:11] <quieteyes> !quieteyes
[19:58:12] <knoba> quieteyes: "quieteyes" : a seemingly nice guy, until his veins pop out and he hits !standard
[19:58:20] <quieteyes> lol
[20:01:02] <quieteyes> hope that helps
[20:02:29] <quieteyes> http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html#firewall might be more of what you are looking for.  Going AFK.
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[20:04:20] <nightwatch> hi there, I have a problem.. I have one server which hosts 3 different domains   ex1.net,  ex2.net,  ex3.net  each one must have emails, so I need to configure reverse dns for all of them, I ask if I can just add a PTR record to the same IP for all servers is the right solution. can somebody help me? can 2 MTA have the same IP?
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[20:16:48] <Dominian> ok..
[20:16:52] <Dominian> etrn is configured
[20:16:57] <Dominian> just uncommented one line..
[20:17:59] <seekwill> nightwatch: Umm... how can one IP resolve to all those domains?
[20:18:20] <seekwill> nightwatch: You need an IP address for each domain
[20:18:41] <Dominian> er
[20:18:45] <Dominian> no they don't seekwill ..
[20:18:59] <Dominian> My server handles multiple domains.. lots of them in fact.. One IP
[20:19:05] <seekwill> How do you get a reverse IP?
[20:19:09] <Dominian> the doamins just specify me as the MX
[20:19:16] <Dominian> seekwill: well it maps to only ONE Ip address
[20:19:22] <Dominian> so yeah in that case.. seekwill is right
[20:19:26] <seekwill> ...
[20:19:27] <Dominian> rDNS you can only have one IP
[20:19:35] <Dominian> Forward DNS is a different story
[20:19:40] <jduggan> i think i'm not understanding smtpd_sender_login_maps correctly - does anyone have any experience with it? ive actually created a blank map at the moment so i dont want to force any user to a specific email address
[20:19:55] <seekwill> Dominian: We had this discussion before :)
[20:20:01] <Dominian> I think we did
[20:20:10] <devdas> jduggan: you query using the sender address, it returns a list of valid names
[20:20:14] <Dominian> but its been long enough ago that I don't remember
[20:20:16] <jduggan> do need to add .* username to allow any?
[20:20:17] <seekwill> hehe
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[20:20:35] <seekwill> Dominian: We can schedule our discussions on a regular basis to keep it fresh in both of our heads :)
[20:20:54] <Dominian> hehe
[20:21:31] <jduggan> devdas: it queries the MAIL FROM: address to the right sasl user?.. i guess what im tryin to achieve is query the user to the address (i.e., if the user isnt has an address against his name thats the only address he can send from)
[20:21:33] <devdas> jduggan: @domain <all valid logins>
[20:21:34] <seekwill> Dominian: You must be hosting very nice people to be on the good side of yahoo
[20:22:04] <devdas> jduggan, use the address to find the login name
[20:22:20] <devdas> It's exactly the opposite of what you said you want to do
[20:22:34] <Dominian> seekwill: lol
[20:22:45] <jduggan> devdas: but it means every mail from must have a user
[20:24:09] <devdas> jduggan, only if they authenticate
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[20:24:58] <jduggan> devdas: so it doesnt fit my needs.. i dont want to enforce such a restriction on all accounts. i want some to send from whatever the hell domain they like
[20:25:09] <devdas> hmmm
[20:25:24] <devdas> I am not sure what it does if the address is not listed at all
[20:25:29] <jduggan> it rejects
[20:25:49] <devdas> ah
[20:25:56] <jduggan> i tested with a blank map
[20:26:12] <jduggan> which in my mind implies no restrictions for this user.. ofcourse it doesnt work like this =]
[20:26:19] <Dominian> seekwill: I don't think I send too many emails to yahoo.. I get a shit load from them..
[20:26:38] <jduggan> if i add my user with my mailfrom then it all works fine
[20:26:58] <devdas> what happens if you return 'not found'
[20:27:13] <devdas> In all cases the result of table lookup must be either "not found" or a list of SASL login names separated by comma and/or whitespace.
[20:27:40] <seekwill> Dominian: Lucky you :(
[20:27:43] <jduggan> does that imply the actual string 'not found'
[20:27:47] <Dominian> seekwill: yah
[20:27:52] <jduggan> devdas: that to mean reads, its literally not found :)
[20:27:55] <jduggan> me*
[20:27:56] <Dominian> seekwill: don't get me wrong.. i get "deferred" by them every so often
[20:28:00] <devdas> jduggan: to me too
[20:28:07] <devdas> might be worth testing anyway
[20:28:24] <devdas> seekwill, Dominian sign up for a feedback loop
[20:28:29] <jduggan> can you quota in a hash map :)
[20:28:32] <jduggan> quote*
[20:28:39] <seekwill> Anyone an smtp-sink master? For some reason, it seemed to have stopped accepting connections on this test...
[20:28:51] <devdas> yes @ jduggan
[20:28:53] <seekwill> devdas: Yeah, I love how they CLOSED applications to that.... grrr!!
[20:29:02] <devdas> seekwill uh?
[20:29:09] <devdas> write to postmaster@ asking for a FBL
[20:29:28] <seekwill> http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/mail/postmaster/postmaster-30.html
[20:29:31] <devdas> they have one for ISPs which they don't have a signup page for
[20:29:42] <nightwatch> so Dominian I cannot have this cofniguration?  one ip, multi domain (each one with its email ) ?
[20:29:57] <jduggan> devdas: no cigar :)
[20:29:58] <seekwill> Unless that page is just to weed out non-persistent postmasters
[20:30:20] <devdas> jduggan: damn
[20:30:46] <devdas> seekwill, write to postmaster@, if that doesn't work, let me know and I'll see what I can do
[20:31:06] <seekwill> devdas: Oh cool. I'll try that then. Thanks! :)
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[20:33:41] <seekwill> devdas: Will FBL help even though my messages eventually get through?
[20:33:56] <seekwill> (after being deferred for over a day in some cases)
[20:34:19] <devdas> seekwill: FBL == almost no deferrals
[20:34:25] <devdas> unless it's a really bad spam run
[20:35:17] <seekwill> Awesome. Well, I don't have very many users (because of the deferrals...actually). So I'm 99.999999999% sure there won't be any spam going through at all.
[20:35:39] <seekwill> Plus, it's also spam scanned...
[20:36:53] <seekwill> Does anyone know how many connections smtp-sink can handle nicely?
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[20:39:44] <devdas> seekwill: lots
[20:39:50] <seekwill> 100?
[20:40:02] <devdas> definitely
[20:40:07] <seekwill> Awesome, thanks
[20:41:31] <cpm> 738
[20:42:30] <seekwill> That's the max? Cool
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[20:47:03] <jp-> do options specified in master.cf override options set in main.cf?
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[20:47:26] <jp-> they do not appear to, i just want to confirm it before i go on with the notion.
[20:48:17] <devdas> jp-: for that specific service, yes
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[20:49:03] <jp-> hmm alright, i'm getting duplicate bcc's with sender_bcc_maps, i've seen a bit of info and i know the cause, having trouble stopping it.
[20:49:38] <devdas> no_address_rewrite or something in the post content_filter smtpd
[20:49:41] <jp-> i setup the sender_bcc_maps option in main.cf, in master.cf for my filter service i've added -o sender_bcc_maps=  thinking that would disable it for the service.
[20:49:54] <devdas> err, no_address_mappings
[20:50:25] <jp-> i'll give that a try, thanks.
[20:54:48] <nightwatch> Dominian: I think I found something.. maybe if I use virtual domains with postifix could I solve this?
[20:55:29] <nightwatch> I mean all my domains poits to the same MX, and the postfix handle the virtual thing
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[21:05:23] <cyr-> I am running mailman 2.1.9 and its working fine, except I cannot seem to get virtual hostname to work, when I send mail to testlist at mail dot mydomain.com it works, but I want it to work also with testlist at mydomain dot com
[21:06:00] <Dominian> you have to alias testlist at mydomain dot com
[21:06:11] <Dominian> to testlist at mail dot mydomain.com
[21:06:55] <cyr-> Do I add "testlist at mydomain dot com: testlist at mail dot mydomain.com" to /etc/aliases and run newaliases ?
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[21:07:29] <Dominian> cyr-: /etc/aliases doesn't work that way..
[21:07:34] <Dominian> mine are all virtual domains
[21:07:42] <Dominian> so I just alias it off in postfixadmin and I'm done ;)
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[21:10:07] <jelly> Mine are virtual foo at bar dot com: ml_foo@myhostname, and then aliases like ml_foo: |mailman ... because you can't have |foo in virtual
[21:11:16] <cyr-> ah postfixadmin, interesting I will isntall that one.
[21:12:11] <jelly> oh, and a script that regenerates it all from mailman config.
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[21:27:48] <cyr-> hmm mybae postfixadmin aint such a good idea for me since im running OS X
[21:29:49] <Dominian> cyr-: postfixadmin works with postfix/mysql
[21:29:55] <Dominian> aslong as you have apache/php.. it should work.
[21:30:32] <cyr-> yeah I know, but I have a "Server Admin" tool that has its greasy fingers in my configs.
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[21:31:40] <Dominian> oh god
[21:31:43] <Dominian> OS X server.. yes
[21:31:45] <Dominian> I remember that POS
[21:31:55] <Dominian> Worked on a client's OS X postfix server about a month ago
[21:31:59] <Dominian> damn thing sucked
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[21:35:09] <cyr-> :(
[21:37:12] <ananke> hmm, i have a weird problem [again, thanks to zimbra]: e-mails to addresses @mydomain sent from localhost are accepted just fine, but not when sent from other hosts. it would seem the issue is with accepting/relying e-mails for a given domain, but the error i get is throwing me off completely:
[21:37:15] <ananke> "postfix/smtpd[6779]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from bender.bioinformatics.vt.edu[128.173.100.193]: 550 5.1.1 <ecartis at vbi dot vt.edu>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table; from=<zbowden at vbi dot vt.edu> to=<ecartis at vbi dot vt.edu> proto=SMTP helo=<bender.bioinformatics.vt.edu>"
[21:38:00] <ananke> i'm not sure if i'm going crazy or what, but the smtp session is identical
[21:39:10] <Dominian> Do you have an example from a "good" send?
[21:39:16] <ananke> yes
[21:39:24] <ananke> hold a sec, i'll put both on pastebin
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[21:44:36] <ananke> Dominian : http://pastebin.com/d7c7797a0
[21:45:02] <habnabit_> cyr-: if you're doing manual configuration, I suggest downgrading to plain OS X.
[21:45:14] <habnabit_> cyr-: I run a server on just plain 10.4.
[21:45:36] <Dominian> ananke: reading
[21:46:00] <ananke> Dominian : thank you. i'm a bit confused as to why it would generate that kind of error
[21:47:22] <Dominian> ananke: you and me both...
[21:47:25] <Dominian> same freakin' user
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[21:48:13] <Dominian> ananke: so it works when you send it how?
[21:48:17] <Dominian> and it breaks when you send it..?
[21:48:35] <ananke> it works when i send from localhost. it breaks when i send it from another host
[21:48:48] <rob0> sheesh
[21:48:58] <ananke> however, we just noticed something. i think it breaks when we send from hosts _not_ defined in mynetworks
[21:49:04] <rob0> yes
[21:49:20] <Dominian> right
[21:49:21] <rob0> sounds like broken virtual_mailbox_maps
[21:49:23] <Dominian> I was just getting ready to say that
[21:49:30] <Dominian> I just ntoiced the bender.bioinformatics.vt.edu
[21:49:52] <ananke> damn zimbra...
[21:51:09] <Dominian> heh
[21:52:14] <ananke> i guess i don't understand how it works, to understand that error. it seems it should give me no relay, instead of the misleading 'user unknown'
[21:52:23] <rob0> But from mynetworks it is accepted (permit_mynetworks) and aliased in virtual_alias_maps, so it works
[21:52:46] <rob0> no, virtual_mailbox_domains lookup is working
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[21:53:19] <dim> hi
[21:53:31] <dim> I have a setup with lmtp delivery via virtual_transport, and I'm adding a content_filter in lmtp too, in master.cf this time
[21:53:40] <dim> it seems virtual_transport is used *before* content_filter
[21:53:47] <dim> anything I can do about this?
[21:55:08] <cyr-> habnabit_: yeah thanks, but we are not allowed to downgrade this one.
[21:55:22] <cyr-> habnabit_: it must be 10.5.2 carved in stone
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[21:55:58] <ananke> rob0 : i guess we were under the impression that @vbi.vt.edu is a domain that this postfix instance is responsible for, and should accept e-mails; therefore, permit_mynetworks wouldn't matter
[21:57:22] <habnabit_> cyr-: 10.5.2 Server?
[21:57:46] <rob0> Postfix agrees that vbi.vt.edu is in virtual_mailbox_domains. Then it looks up the username at vbi dot vt.edu in virtual_mailbox_maps. That returns nothing, therefore the username is considered invalid.
[21:58:35] <rob0> When sending from within mynetworks, permit_mynetworks causes acceptance. And virtual_alias_maps redirects it somewhere deliverable, so it works.
[21:59:16] <ananke> rob0 : ohh, so it goes via two different paths
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[22:00:39] <rob0> If permit_mynetworks causes you to accept undeliverable mail, you generate a bounce.
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[22:02:38] <sky> is it possible to turn off logging of hostname verification failed warnings?
[22:02:50] <Dominian> example?
[22:03:02] <rob0> not that I know of, no.
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[22:03:29] <ananke> i'm looking at http://www.postfix.org/big-picture.html and trying to fit both scenarios there. honestly, i'm having hard time understanding this, after years of using sendmail
[22:04:12] <rob0> The *fix* is to get virtual_mailbox_maps working; postmap -q to test.
[22:05:50] <cyr-> habnabit_: yeah 10.5.2 server on Xserve
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[22:08:05] <ananke> rob0 : makes sense, although i still wonder why it works at all. shouldn't virtual_alias_maps be preceded by virtual_mailbox_maps when sending from mynetworks?
[22:08:32] <habnabit_> cyr-: you can run-nonserver versions of OS X on an Xserve.
[22:08:36] <Kassah> got a question... I want to setup a store and forward postfix configuration... but the catch is... it's going to sit on the IP it's later going to deliver to?
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[22:10:23] <rob0> virtual_alias_maps is checked on the way IN, *only* if the domain is in virtual_alias_domains. virtual_alias_maps is ALWAYS checked on the way out.
[22:11:01] <Kassah> will it deliver the mail if I put a fake IP in the transport map until the server arrives that will sit on it's up... then I want to change the IP of the store and forward and set the transports properly
[22:11:24] <sky> is it possible to eliminate the 'hostname verification failed: nodename nor servname provided, or not known' from logging?
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[22:12:03] <sky> either through a log level or a specific configuration flag
[22:12:09] <ananke> rob0 : i see, thank you
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[22:13:57] <sky> im trying to eliminate a large portion of disk thrashing by not writing that log output frm spammers
[22:14:10] <Dominian> ananke: yeah ignore me.. rob0 is the man.. I just get lucky guesses in there every so often hehe
[22:16:54] <sky> sure is hard to find anything but logs in google
[22:17:59] <rob0> reject_unknown_client_hostname to make those rDNS lookup warnings worthwhile :)
[22:20:48] <sky> is that a pretty legitimate move?
[22:20:58] <sky> i have no idea how often those cases are not spam
[22:22:03] <ananke> k, another strange question: what should the virtual_mailbox_maps entry be for this example user? there is no mailbox, and i'm either going to send it off to another host, or hand it off to another program, via the aliases [or transport map, as i already have]
[22:23:01] <rob0> "user@domain  anything" (I think zimbra uses virtual aliases to redirect everything.)
[22:23:26] <rob0> user@domain is the lookup key, doesn't matter what the result is
[22:23:38] <ananke> ok, wasn't sure if it needed to be anything specific
[22:23:50] <rob0> (if you were using virtual(8) for delivery it would be a relative path to mailbox)
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[22:26:55] <HSorgYves> morning
[22:27:11] <HSorgYves> when does postfix check alias_maps and when does it check virtual_alias_maps
[22:27:57] <rob0> 20:10 < rob0> virtual_alias_maps is checked on the way IN, *only* if the domain is in virtual_alias_domains. virtual_alias_maps is ALWAYS checked on the way out.
[22:28:23] <rob0> alias_maps is only checked when the rcpt domain is in mydestination
[22:30:12] <HSorgYves> ok, thx
[22:30:50] <HSorgYves> what if rcpt domain is in mydestination, is virtual_alias_maps checked as well if the domain is in virtual_alias_domains as well?
[22:31:09] <rob0> !address_class
[22:31:10] <knoba> rob0: Error: "address_class" is not a valid command.
[22:31:12] <rob0> !address_classes
[22:31:12] <knoba> rob0: "address_classes" : http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_CLASS_README.html describes how Postfix deals with different classes of addresses: local, relay, virtual alias, virtual mailbox, and Internet.
[22:31:35] <rob0> any domain must only be in ONE class. So your question is moot.
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[22:41:44] <HSorgYves> ok, thx
[22:42:26] <cyr-> How do I see the running /etc/postfix/virtual ? I'm afraid of overwriting something by just editing it and then running #postmap /etc/postfix/virtual
[22:42:45] <cite> cyrunn postmap -s on the compiled map.
[22:46:28] <cite> What is the name of that 3 digit code after an EMSPT error message? That "5.7.1" after a 554 and so on.
[22:46:38] <cite> Enhanced Status Code?
[22:47:08] <cite> ah, rfc 893
[22:47:23] <cite> 1893
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[22:52:51] <sky> rob0: ive been looking at reject_unknown_client_hostname but its still warning me about all the connections
[22:53:21] <Dominian> er
[22:53:28] <Dominian> should that be reject_unknown_sender_hostname..?
[22:53:33] <Dominian> you talking about people sending through you?
[22:53:58] <sky> spammers are attempting to connect and i get a warning 'hostname verification failed: nodename nor servname provided, or not known'
[22:54:10] <sky> many per second...
[22:54:45] <Dominian> reject_unknown_sender_hostname I think is what you want...
[22:54:50] <Dominian> not sure about client.. I could be wrong
[22:56:08] <cite> sky: You will get those messages and there is absolutely nothing you can do about that.
[22:56:45] <sky> thats pretty much a bummer
[22:59:22] <sky> cite: isnt that a problem?
[22:59:40] <sky> every user of postfix is forced to long multiple attempts per second of this?
[22:59:48] <sky> err log
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[23:01:21] <HSorgYves> the error message "User unknown in local recipient table" does refer to alias_maps (or can it be virtual_alias_maps as well)?
[23:01:46] <rob0> !unknown_local
[23:01:47] <knoba> rob0: "unknown_local" : User unknown in local recipient table means that the recipient domain was found in $mydestination but the username was not found in local_recipient_maps (by default: users in /etc/passwd and aliases(5) in /etc/aliases).
[23:01:48] <cite> sky: Erm. To be honest, I never thought much about that.
[23:02:09] <sky> I was just trying to cut down on my disk thrashing, and that one sticks out pretty well
[23:02:16] <cite> sky: It's just a normal thing, a client connects and Postfix isn't able to verify that host name.
[23:02:17] <rob0> Maybe sky is using a broken resolver?
[23:02:18] <HSorgYves> rob0: great thx
[23:02:29] <cite> sky: Check your DNS caches if you see it for literally _every_ client
[23:02:36] <sky> its not every client, no
[23:02:41] <sky> its just spam attempts
[23:02:50] <sky> its a working system
[23:03:01] <rob0> A lot of spam sources do have working rDNS
[23:03:15] <sky> 'warning: 92.112.187.46: hostname 46-187-112-92.pool.ukrtel.net verification failed: nodename nor servname provided, or not known'
[23:04:04] <cite> A-RR query throws an NXDOMAIN here.
[23:05:12] <cite> Oh funny. I got this IP in my logs, too ;)
[23:05:59] <rob0> not surprising actually, it looks like a zombie (generic rDNS, "pool")
[23:08:18] <rob0> afk
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[23:10:09] <ricosecada> When using the sendmail command from the console, is there a way to specify the subject?
[23:10:31] <seekwill> Type it in the header?
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[23:13:07] <ricosecada> seekwill, how exactly? I am using it like this: $ sendmail -F Rico rico at mymail dot com < sometxtfile
[23:13:19] <seekwill> Put it in your sometxtfile
[23:13:38] <ricosecada> I am using it to send myself a copy of snort alert
[23:13:45] <seekwill> ok
[23:13:54] <ricosecada> It can't be specified on the command?
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[23:14:21] <seekwill> ricosecada: man sendmail ?
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[23:14:58] <ricosecada> I haven't found anything about subject.. I was wondering if I am missing something.
[23:15:11] <seekwill> Type it in the header
[23:15:28] <seekwill> Per the manpage, you're supposed to be sending sendmail a properly formatted message body
[23:15:44] <seekwill> Or... message (body + header)
[23:15:46] <HSorgYves> ok, i think i am getting closer... is alias_maps considered or alias_database when receiving local mail?
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[23:17:15] <seekwill> ricosecada: Fine, I'll give you a hint: echo "Subject: This is a subject\r\n\r\n" >> message_body; cat sometxtfile >> message_body; echo "\r\n.\r\n" >> message_body
[23:21:04] <seekwill> You don't like my beautiful script?
[23:21:10] <sysmonk> *caugh* *
[23:21:17] <seekwill> :(
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[23:47:25] <sky> cite: so what you think
[23:47:35] <sky> should I just accept it (which I always have... btw: :)
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