May 5, 2008 
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May 5, 2008 [00:00:16] *** _bugz_ has joined #postfix[00:00:56] <ZeR0^> http://cagole.toile-libre.org/trace.out[00:01:10] <ZeR0^> it's the trace log (in plain text)[00:02:40] <ZeR0^> if you see some way which can help me.. it will be very nice[00:10:22] *** openssh has joined #postfix[00:12:34] *** unsolo has joined #postfix[00:13:20] <unsolo> what does the following error imply : Relay access denied; ? when attempting to send a mail[00:13:51] <unsolo> May 5 08:13:23 mail2 postfix/smtpd[10237]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from localhost[127.0.0.1]: 554 5.7.1 <kristian.jerpetjoen at gmail dot com>: Relay access denied; from=<kristian at customweb dot no> to=<kristian.jerpetjoen at gmail dot com> proto=ESMTP helo=<mail.customweb.no>[00:13:58] <unsolo> to be more precise about it[00:15:10] *** Siegfried has joined #postfix[00:15:55] <mjoseph> ZeR0^: you should probably opena bug about that[00:16:51] <ZeR0^> mjoseph: it's a unknown error ?[00:17:46] <mjoseph> right before the problem[00:17:52] <mjoseph> the process unblocks all signals[00:17:54] <mjoseph> and then gets a sigsys[00:18:13] *** deltaray2 has quit IRC[00:18:14] <mjoseph> that's usually a bug[00:18:22] <unsolo> might be a silly question but its been 2 years since the last time i rigged a lvs mailserver[00:18:30] <ZeR0^> ok[00:18:35] <ZeR0^> thanks[00:22:50] <mjoseph> unsolo: lvs mailserver?[00:23:22] <mjoseph> anyway, the problem is[00:23:25] <mjoseph> !mynetworks[00:23:26] <knoba> mjoseph: "mynetworks" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The list of "trusted" SMTP clients that can relay email.[00:23:39] <mjoseph> see also:[00:23:44] <mjoseph> !mynetworks_style[00:23:44] <knoba> mjoseph: "mynetworks_style" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The method to generate the default value for the mynetworks parameter. This is the list of trusted networks for relay access control etc.[00:23:56] <Trengo> unsolo lvs machine sits in front of the cluster machines[00:24:34] *** kiliko has quit IRC[00:25:20] <unsolo> no[00:25:28] <unsolo> mailservers are behind the router/firewall/load-balancer[00:26:49] *** diveli has joined #postfix[00:27:49] <rob0> 12) SIGUSR2[00:28:09] <rob0> wtf is smtpd being killed by SIGUSR2 ?[00:28:12] <unsolo> thanks mjoseph[00:28:28] <rob0> Could this have been munged from something else, like signal 11?[00:28:51] <mjoseph> rob0 12) SIGSYS[00:29:04] *** kiliko has joined #postfix[00:29:13] <rob0> oh mine was Linux and bash builtin kill[00:29:19] *** makerc has quit IRC[00:29:20] <mjoseph> also[00:29:23] <mjoseph> 7106 smtpd CALL sigprocmask(0x3,0)[00:29:23] <mjoseph> 7106 smtpd RET sigprocmask -65793/0xfffefeff[00:29:23] <mjoseph> 7106 smtpd PSIG SIGSYS SIG_DFL code 0[00:30:04] <rob0> !relay_denied[00:30:06] <knoba> rob0: "relay_denied" : \"554 5.7.1 <RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN>: Relay access denied; from=<SENDER_ADDRESS> to=<RECIPIENT@RCPT_DOMAIN> proto=ESMTP helo=<HELO>\": This typically means that CLIENT_IP is not in mynetworks (and did not AUTH), and that RCPT_DOMAIN was not recognized as one of this Postfix's domains (not listed in mydestination, relay_domains or virtual_*_domains).[00:30:18] <mjoseph> heh[00:30:39] <rob0> yeah I get tired of typing the same old stuff to people who won't look it up on their own[00:31:21] <mjoseph> i need to submit a patch for knoba[00:31:27] <mjoseph> figure out who maintains it[00:31:33] <rob0> Signum does[00:31:38] *** [Gandhi] has joined #postfix[00:31:45] <rob0> see /topic too[00:31:55] <rob0> and /msg knoba help[00:36:51] *** madrescher has quit IRC[00:38:07] *** loulouloulou has joined #postfix[00:39:03] <loulouloulou> hi using postifx...sending emails from local user to local user works..iptables flushed..however telnet 25 to the server from remote server times out..I checked and inet interfaces = all...anything else I must check ?[00:39:10] <rob0_> ZeR0^: did you mention what OS this is? Are you using their Postfix package, or built from source?[00:42:43] <Trengo> loulouloulou netstat -nltp shows what it is listening on[00:43:02] *** edman007|work has left #postfix[00:44:34] <ZeR0^> rob0_: I using openbsd3.4 (stable) and precompilated package[00:45:01] <rob0_> it might be (in fact I bet it is) an openbsd bug.[00:45:29] <ZeR0^> it's possible[00:46:17] <rob0_> Google has NO example of smtpd being "killed by signal 12".[00:46:37] <ZeR0^> cause, before the upgrade (the reboot was for it), it worked[00:46:53] <rob0_> sounds even more likely[00:47:18] <ZeR0^> :/ ok[00:49:21] <mjoseph> wait[00:49:26] <mjoseph> you upgraded your os?[00:49:29] <mjoseph> and it was bsd?[00:49:34] <mjoseph> did you rebuild postfix?[00:49:59] <mjoseph> you need to rebuild postfix[00:50:55] <rob0_> that is surely worth trying, but ... hmm[00:51:54] <mjoseph> libc probably changed[00:52:40] <rob0_> another longshot (I would try before recompiling) is to postmap all your lookups[00:52:48] *** diveli has quit IRC[00:53:03] <rob0_> OBSD rebuilt the Postfix to match the new libc.[00:53:33] *** diveli has joined #postfix[00:54:17] <mjoseph> yeah, but did he upgrade to the new version of postfix?[00:54:40] <rob0_> if not, definitely should[00:58:20] *** action09 has quit IRC[00:59:25] *** war9407 has quit IRC[01:14:54] *** McJerry has joined #postfix[01:16:03] *** [Gandhi] has quit IRC[01:27:37] *** muecke77 has joined #Postfix[01:28:58] *** muecke77 has quit IRC[01:29:36] *** muecke77 has joined #Postfix[01:46:18] *** openssh has quit IRC[01:53:24] <ZeR0^> 00:49 < mjoseph> you upgraded your os?[01:53:24] <ZeR0^> 00:49 < mjoseph> and it was bsd?[01:53:31] *** githogori has quit IRC[01:53:34] <ZeR0^> i've upgraded my os hier[01:53:36] <ZeR0^> yes*[01:53:42] <ZeR0^> s/hier/yes/[01:53:56] <ZeR0^> from openbsd 4.3 -CURRENT to openbsd 4.3 -RELEASE[01:54:23] <ZeR0^> i've rebruild postfix[01:54:46] <ZeR0^> i've postmap all my lookups[01:55:24] <ZeR0^> i've just reinstalled postfix from the package (which dated april 29th[01:55:45] <ZeR0^> and which is builded for openbsd 4.3[01:56:25] *** githogori has joined #postfix[01:57:34] *** googlah has joined #postfix[01:57:39] *** googlah has quit IRC[01:58:27] *** googlah has joined #postfix[01:58:49] *** googlah has joined #postfix[01:59:42] *** googlah has joined #postfix[02:01:15] *** googlah_ has joined #postfix[02:03:35] *** googlah_ has quit IRC[02:03:42] *** xpoint has quit IRC[02:04:01] *** googlah has quit IRC[02:16:50] *** rhineheart_m has joined #postfix[02:17:06] <rhineheart_m> hello.. can anybody here help me with this problem? Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; User unknown in virtual alias table[02:23:47] *** rhineheart_m has quit IRC[02:24:54] <rob0_> almost 8 minutes here, wow[02:25:17] <ZeR0^> :)[02:25:35] <rob0_> !unknown_virtual[02:25:35] <knoba> rob0_: "unknown_virtual" : \"User unknown in virtual $X table\" means that the recipient domain was found in $virtual_$X_domains but the username@domain was not found in $virtual_$X_maps. ("$X" can be either alias or mailbox .)[02:26:04] <ZeR0^> !killed_by_signal_12[02:26:05] <knoba> ZeR0^: Error: "killed_by_signal_12" is not a valid command.[02:26:06] <ZeR0^> :([02:26:07] <ZeR0^> :p[02:35:46] <rob0_> I only put in the FAQ's as bot factoids, not the RAQ's.[02:37:50] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[02:42:28] *** muecke77 has quit IRC[02:48:23] <ZeR0^> yeah :)[02:48:49] <ZeR0^> hm, my bed is calling me[02:48:53] <ZeR0^> nite[02:48:57] <ZeR0^> and thanks[02:51:01] *** pirho has quit IRC[02:54:31] *** Fallenou has quit IRC[02:55:17] *** Siegfried has quit IRC[03:02:59] *** m0f0x_ has joined #postfix[03:05:33] *** m0f0x has quit IRC[03:05:42] *** m0f0x_ is now known as m0f0x[03:10:56] *** Tachy has joined #postfix[03:20:28] *** tadeu_ has quit IRC[03:22:12] *** Tachy_ has quit IRC[03:38:51] *** rob0 has quit IRC[03:38:56] *** rob0_ is now known as rob0[03:46:20] *** loddafnir has quit IRC[03:56:05] *** mirrorcolor has joined #postfix[03:57:21] *** googlah has joined #postfix[04:09:10] *** Bogaurd_ has joined #postfix[04:09:41] <Bogaurd_> I have rejection setup on invalid HELO messages etc, how can I whitelist hosts/addresses?[04:13:30] <rob0> pastebin the rejection of ONE such client (only change email addresses if munging)[04:13:37] <rob0> paste*[04:13:42] <rob0> one line is fine here[04:16:29] *** Knoedel2 has quit IRC[04:16:30] *** dhg has quit IRC[04:16:30] *** Signum has quit IRC[04:16:30] *** St3rnchen has quit IRC[04:16:30] *** mathez has quit IRC[04:16:31] *** lunaphyte_ has quit IRC[04:16:32] *** St3rnchen has joined #postfix[04:17:11] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[04:18:52] *** fifo_ has quit IRC[04:19:09] *** fifo_ has joined #postfix[04:24:30] <Bogaurd_> rob0: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from 219-90-196-31.static.adam.com.au[219.90.196.31]: 450 4.7.1 <aaafi-mail.aaafi.local>: Helo command rejected: Host not found;[04:25:01] <Bogaurd_> I'd like to whitelist the server or the domain the emails are coming from ( at aaafi dot com.au)[04:25:01] <rob0> ok that's reject_unknown_helo_hostname ... not really safe on a MX[04:25:18] <Bogaurd_> hmm[04:25:33] <Bogaurd_> i can patsebin my config if you like[04:25:56] <rob0> I recommend removing that restriction.[04:26:25] <Bogaurd_> http://pastebin.com/m58d7050e[04:26:40] <Bogaurd_> that's what I have - I added a whitelist, doesnt seem to work though[04:26:54] <Bogaurd_> rob0 - really? won't I get a bunch more spam coming in then[04:26:55] <Bogaurd_> ?[04:27:02] <rob0> !cheatsheet[04:27:03] <knoba> rob0: "cheatsheet" : http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt : A HOWTO for pre-DATA spam control.[04:27:12] <rob0> !zen[04:27:12] <knoba> rob0: "zen" : http://www.spamhaus.org/zen/ : A composite of all Spamhaus DNSBLs: SBL, XBL and PBL[04:27:50] <Bogaurd_> yeah, I'm greylisting clients if they showup in zen or other blacklists[04:27:57] <rob0> reject_invalid_helo_hostname and reject_non_fqdn_helo_hostname are good and safe[04:29:19] <mjoseph> you know[04:29:27] <mjoseph> i'm not sure if that one would pass invalid[04:29:53] <Bogaurd_> mjoseph: ?[04:29:53] <mjoseph> eh[04:29:54] <mjoseph> i guess so[04:29:59] <mjoseph> it's properly formatted[04:30:14] <rob0> yes, it's valid[04:30:18] <Bogaurd_> I'm confused as to why my whitelist isng working...[04:30:22] <Bogaurd_> isnt*[04:30:26] <mjoseph> anyway, yeah, there was a time when i was being pedantic and requiring proper HELO[04:30:38] <mjoseph> i was going to fix the internet's mx's, my little site at the time[04:30:47] <mjoseph> by rejecting mail from evil, non-compliant mx's[04:30:48] <rob0> one of these days I'm going to set up a helo_access to block anything not in a valid TLD[04:30:55] <mjoseph> then my users started whining[04:30:59] <mjoseph> so i turned it off[04:31:02] <mjoseph> but that week was awesome![04:31:05] * mjoseph felt so high[04:31:09] <Bogaurd_> ahah[04:31:28] <mjoseph> Bogaurd_: what are your smtpd_*_restrictions[04:31:29] <mjoseph> ?[04:31:39] <Bogaurd_> well.. assuming I wanted to keep it (it doesnt usually cause issues for me), how could I get the whitelist working?[04:31:54] <Bogaurd_> mjoseph: everything you see there (pastebin)[04:31:57] <Bogaurd_> http://pastebin.com/m58d7050e[04:32:01] <mjoseph> i don't care[04:32:18] <mjoseph> insert a check_helo_access before the helo check[04:32:32] <mjoseph> or, even better[04:32:35] <mjoseph> actually[04:32:36] <mjoseph> no[04:32:38] <mjoseph> not helo_access[04:32:45] <rob0> Bo, if you're disregarding my experienced advice, that's fine, just be aware that there are a few gazillion small sites out there which have non-resolvable HELOs.[04:33:05] <rob0> MSexChange especially, because they're almost all behind NAT routers.[04:33:15] <rob0> anyway ...[04:33:16] <mjoseph> should be check_sender_mx_access[04:33:17] <mjoseph> early on[04:33:24] <mjoseph> the most flexible way is something like a hash[04:33:26] <mjoseph> for instance[04:33:34] <mjoseph> check_sender_mx_access hash:/etc/postfix/sender[04:33:41] <mjoseph> and then list the policies you want by sender mx there[04:33:50] <rob0> ... you precede your reject_unknown_helo_hostname with a check_client_access whitelist[04:33:56] <mjoseph> like: foo.com DUNNO[04:33:57] <mjoseph> err, yeah[04:34:00] <Bogaurd_> rob0, I'm not disregarding it, i just want to get this working for this single email for now, when i re-write the config soon I'll take what you've told me on board :)[04:34:01] <mjoseph> check_client_access[04:34:02] <mjoseph> sorry, my fault[04:34:06] <mjoseph> anyway, foo.com DUNNO[04:34:15] <mjoseph> * some_smtp_restriction_set[04:34:53] <rob0> check_client_access lookup would contain: 219.90.196.31 permit_auth_destination[04:35:15] <rob0> A cidr: map is usually a good choice for such whitelisting[04:35:15] <mjoseph> or rob's way[04:35:54] <mjoseph> eh, not thinking well right now[04:35:55] <mjoseph> gonna bail out[04:38:58] <Bogaurd_> rob0: so within the whitelist file I would put '219.90.196.31 permit_auth_destination'?[04:39:06] <Bogaurd_> or '219.90.196.31 OK'?[04:39:54] <rob0> "OK" is not safe in smtpd_recipient_restrictions unless it comes after reject_unauth_destination .[04:40:33] <rob0> my way is pretty much always safe no matter where you use it, it ends the current restriction stage.[04:40:33] <Bogaurd_> oh, yes, that's clear now, thanks :)[04:45:56] <Bogaurd_> rob0: if i wanted to whitelist based on the sender's email address, would check_sender_access do the trick?[04:48:58] <rob0> Did you know that anyone, anywhere, can claim to be any sender address? And the vast majority of spam and abuse is from forged sender addresses?[04:53:24] <Bogaurd_> rob0: yeah, it's just a stopgap until this person (i know their admin) fixes the HELO. they have multiple IP's, I dont know them all :P[04:56:03] *** Zeit|awy_ has quit IRC[04:57:33] *** Lap_64 has quit IRC[05:01:42] *** Lap_64 has joined #postfix[05:03:04] *** Lap_64 has quit IRC[05:06:00] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[05:16:55] *** lkthomas_ has joined #postfix[05:20:50] *** lkthomas_ is now known as lkthomas[05:21:02] <lkthomas> hey guys[05:21:11] <lkthomas> I want to setup a postfix proxy server[05:22:02] <lkthomas> user will send email to this postfix server, then, forward to another server[05:23:37] <lkthomas> how can I do individual user transport map ?[05:23:56] <lkthomas> which means 1 at thomas dot com -> 1 at yahoo dot com[05:24:05] <lkthomas> 2 at thomas dot com -> 2 at hotmail dot com[05:24:11] <lkthomas> how to make it work actuall ?[05:29:50] <mwalling> aliases?[05:32:23] <lkthomas> alias is for incoming[05:32:27] <lkthomas> I am talking about outgoing[05:35:49] <rob0> That sounds a whole lot like virtual aliases.[05:35:52] <rob0> !virtual[05:36:04] <knoba> rob0: "virtual" : a way to configure additional domains and user accounts (that do not need to exist in your /etc/passwd). See: http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html[05:36:34] *** is_null has joined #postfix[05:37:07] <lkthomas> rob0, again, that's for incoming[05:37:09] <lkthomas> I want outgoing[05:37:15] <rob0> 03:22 < lkthomas> user will send email to this postfix server, then, forward to another server[05:37:28] <rob0> Sounds like it comes in to begin with[05:37:30] <lkthomas> rob0, consider similar idea as transport maps[05:37:36] <lkthomas> NO[05:37:46] <lkthomas> my postfix own thomas.com[05:37:52] <lkthomas> and client will send email using thomas.com[05:37:56] <lkthomas> but on the back[05:38:01] <lkthomas> it is actually sending to another place[05:38:10] <lkthomas> as I said, yahoo or hotmail[05:38:27] <lkthomas> incoming forward != outgoing forward[05:39:59] <rob0> Okay, you think you understand virtual alias domains. Maybe you can explain how what you're talking about differs from that. I don't get it.[05:40:30] <rob0> 03:37 < lkthomas> and client will send email using thomas.com[05:40:52] <rob0> wtf? Any spammer can claim to be thomas.com too.[05:40:53] <lkthomas> alias is for incoming forwarding[05:40:58] <lkthomas> as I said[05:41:14] <lkthomas> I need to setup full feature auth[05:41:14] <lkthomas> such as SASL[05:41:29] <lkthomas> Alias = incoming forward, from anywhere to my postfix will be forward[05:41:37] <lkthomas> what I want is outgoing forward[05:41:44] <lkthomas> from my server to anywhere[05:41:45] <lkthomas> get it ?[05:41:55] <is_null> hello everybody, i really don't understand how to use a pipe destination for a virtual alias. man aliases(5) seem to be the only way to support pipe destinnation though it only works with local recipients: according both the manual and the tests i've been doing for hours. Any tip please? I must be missing something important, i'm almost done reading "The definitive guide to postfix" and i still have not figured[05:43:24] <is_null> while man virtual(5) seems to accept virtual keys, but no pipe destination[05:43:32] <rob0> No, still don't get it. What does "full feature auth" mean? SASL is the only means to enable SMTP AUTH in Postfix.[05:44:06] <lkthomas> well[05:44:09] <rob0> is_null, the manuals and the tests appear to be correct.[05:44:23] <lkthomas> I want a postfix server act as normal, but it is actually a gateway[05:44:27] <lkthomas> which will not store email at all[05:44:57] <is_null> rob0, i beleive that, but then how to setup the dozen of pipe aliases i need for sympa? (http://sympa.org/manual/mail-aliases#robot_aliases)[05:45:18] <is_null> s/pipe aliases/virtual alias pipe destination/[05:45:28] <lkthomas> rob0, do you think smtp_generic_maps works ?[05:45:49] <is_null> (sympa being an ML manager like majordo or mailman)[05:46:21] <rob0> (not looking at your link) If the domain is local(8) (in mydestination) use aliases(5). If not, use virtual_alias_maps to redirect to a domain which *is* in mydestination.[05:46:22] <lkthomas> for incoming alias map, user can not login[05:46:34] <lkthomas> rob0, am I correct ?[05:46:42] <lkthomas> for alias map, it does not contain login[05:47:36] <rob0> is_null, if you want to run a command, the OS needs a real user and a real shell to do so.[05:47:56] <is_null> lkthomas, are you sure that you needn't a virtual users table?[05:48:43] <is_null> rob0, of course! thanks[05:49:20] <rob0> I believe that *is* in the Mailman docs. It should be in Sympa's as well.[05:50:07] <rob0> 03:45 < lkthomas> rob0, do you think smtp_generic_maps works ?[05:50:25] <rob0> smtp_generic_maps works to do what it was designed and documented to do. :)[05:50:36] * rob0 has unending faith in Wietse[05:52:12] <is_null> actually i figured now that you have enlighten me hehe, thanks[05:52:57] *** Signum has joined #postfix[05:53:06] *** mathez has joined #postfix[05:53:23] *** dhg has joined #postfix[05:55:20] <mjoseph> i wish the postfix docs would tell you which process used which configuration options[05:55:39] <mjoseph> the per process manpages have them, but it'd be nice to go the other way, too[05:55:40] <rob0> look in the man pages for each daemon[05:55:43] <rob0> ah[05:56:20] <rob0> Many of them, but not all, have obvious names ... smtpd_*[05:56:26] <mjoseph> i suppose i could grep[05:56:42] <mjoseph> but i'd like to know all of the processes that look at ___[05:58:16] <mjoseph> ahah[05:58:19] <mjoseph> cleanup[05:58:20] <mjoseph> of course[05:58:24] * mjoseph chuckles[05:59:26] <mjoseph> always_bb[05:59:27] <mjoseph> err[05:59:28] <mjoseph> always_bcc[05:59:30] <mjoseph> that's just evil[06:02:50] <rob0> always_bcc is one of the most-requested features[06:03:02] <mjoseph> that is sad[06:03:06] <is_null> actually i don't understand, sympa proposes to use such an aliases file that is supposed to be compatible with sendmail: http://rafb.net/p/neXXqC21.html does that mean that each key is a valid user with postfix but not with sendmail? that's still obscure to me, or should each key have an entry in a virtual_alias_map as well?[06:03:07] <rob0> (not to say that you're wrong about it being evil)[06:03:27] *** Motoko-chan has joined #postfix[06:03:38] <rob0> Postfix and Sendmail aliases are 100% compatible afaik[06:04:05] <lkthomas> as far as I know[06:04:13] <rob0> what you want is to add a file to alias_maps which is owned by the sympa user.[06:04:16] <lkthomas> if I setup an incoming forward account[06:04:33] <lkthomas> I can't add same username virtual account in the same tim[06:04:36] <lkthomas> time*[06:06:18] <rob0> You've lost me again. Why not?[06:07:01] <lkthomas> tell me[06:07:09] <is_null> rob0, isn't that a later step? (once i get those virtual aliases working with pip commands)[06:07:23] <lkthomas> when you have an account + forward[06:07:27] <lkthomas> when you receive an email[06:07:52] <lkthomas> how do you think postfix know if that email should be delivery to account, or forward or both ?[06:07:55] <is_null> i'm not even trying to use virtual domains (yet)[06:08:11] <rob0> The ownership of the particular aliases(5) file controls who runs the commands therein[06:08:34] <rob0> the copout is to set default_privs to your sympa user[06:09:10] <lkthomas> rob0: any idea ?[06:09:11] <rob0> "How do I think" ... I know exactly how it works, no guessing needed.[06:09:26] <lkthomas> ok[06:09:30] <rob0> A virtual_alias_maps entry overrides all.[06:09:59] <lkthomas> ok, let me tell you in detail what I am trying to do[06:10:07] <lkthomas> I am hosting thomas.com[06:10:20] <lkthomas> and I don't want to host any email account storage[06:10:29] <rob0> !standard[06:10:30] <knoba> rob0: "standard" : Your question is probably answered in http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html[06:10:35] <lkthomas> but in the same time[06:10:44] <lkthomas> hmm[06:10:49] <lkthomas> actually[06:10:55] <lkthomas> when my server receive email[06:11:04] <lkthomas> it will forward to another domain[06:11:24] <lkthomas> in the same time, I want my user be able to login and use thomas.com to send email out[06:11:34] <rob0> I think I've figured out most of it, but indeed, it's always best to describe your goal in real world terms, not confusing matters with irrelevant Postfix settings.[06:11:45] <lkthomas> we are talking about same email account[06:11:48] <lkthomas> for example[06:12:07] <lkthomas> when a user send email to rob at thomas dot com, it will forward to rob at yahoo dot com[06:12:08] <thumbs> rob0: were you really helping `mac`?[06:12:10] <rob0> "login" is not really applicable in SMTP, it's called "authenticate"[06:12:26] <rob0> thumbs, haha, not really[06:12:38] <lkthomas> but in the same time, rob will be able to authenticate and send email out using rob at yahoo dot com via my server[06:12:39] <thumbs> rob0: ah. I was gonna say....[06:12:46] <rob0> it's not possible, he's beyond help[06:12:57] <thumbs> he is beyond help indeed[06:13:11] <rob0> I answered a couple of questions and let him rant on[06:13:12] <thumbs> thanks for that clarification.[06:13:29] <lkthomas> rob0, got the whole picture now ?![06:13:31] <rob0> !sasl[06:13:31] <knoba> rob0: "sasl" : SASL is 'Simple Authentication and Security Layer', necessary for SMTP AUTH, and provided to Postfix by addin software. Cyrus SASL and/or Dovecot IMAP/POP3 can provide SASL. See http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html for details.[06:13:44] <lkthomas> please, I know how to deal with all these[06:13:57] <lkthomas> I setup a server with SASL and running fine[06:14:14] <rob0> You don't want a "full feature auth", you want a basic feature auth. No sender maps.[06:14:15] *** pingouin has quit IRC[06:14:24] <rob0> or ... set up your sender maps as needed[06:14:42] <lkthomas> hang on, let me check what is sender maps, forget already[06:15:04] <rob0> smtp_generic_maps sounds like you're wanting to do on the server what should already have been done in the MUA.[06:15:27] <lkthomas> so generic maps is what I need[06:15:29] <lkthomas> NOT[06:16:01] <lkthomas> for sender map, which option are you ref to ?[06:17:16] <rob0> I don't know, but I bet it's in that SASL_README somewhere.[06:17:31] <rob0> but you're NOT PAYING ATTENTION[06:17:36] <rob0> 04:14 < rob0> You don't want a "full feature auth", you want a basic feature auth. No sender maps.[06:17:46] <lkthomas> so you are not ref to postfix itself[06:18:35] <lkthomas> sender_dependent_relayhost_maps[06:18:36] <lkthomas> this one ?[06:21:29] <lkthomas> strange that my existing server did not use sasl password maps[06:22:38] <lkthomas> ok, I assume it could work[06:22:48] <lkthomas> because of auth works[06:22:53] <lkthomas> which means email could be send out[06:23:08] <lkthomas> no matter if that email is actually existing in this server or not[06:25:44] *** diveli has quit IRC[06:27:44] <lkthomas> rob0, any comment ?[06:29:43] *** diveli has joined #postfix[06:31:09] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[06:34:28] *** saurabhb has joined #postfix[06:35:37] <is_null> what is your favourite way to debug issues like that: [postfix/virtual] DFD44362C002: to=<local_user at devangels dot net>, relay=virtual, delay=0.02, delays=0.01/0/0/0.01, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (unknown user: "local_user at devangels dot net") i'm unsure why it bounces a local user[06:36:32] <is_null> (i've read[06:36:46] <is_null> (i've read this manual already but it does not help me: http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_REWRITING_README.html#debugging)[06:40:41] <is_null> isn't virtual in the cleanup phase? i though that it was but it's deciding to bounce the email, though it's not the role of cleanup as far as i understand: i don't understand heh[06:42:01] <is_null> this must mean that i have a big configuration problem somewhere[06:46:16] *** opensourcenut has joined #postfix[06:52:26] *** loulouloulou has quit IRC[06:53:16] *** nphase has joined #postfix[06:55:03] <is_null> ah: rob0 was right: mydestination was messed up[07:02:21] <is_null> everything is working now, i can't beleive the damage caused by a simple typo[07:08:43] *** UQlev has quit IRC[07:13:28] *** is_null has left #postfix[07:17:29] *** opensourcenut has quit IRC[08:12:29] <LMJ> hi[08:23:13] *** Lap_64 has joined #postfix[08:25:30] *** stony__ has joined #postfix[08:31:14] *** Internat has quit 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checks on the servers and for other ones to look at recipient list[10:03:30] *** nfi|ermes has quit IRC[10:03:45] *** Mavvie has quit IRC[10:04:12] <Ramattack> I have something like this[10:04:13] *** Mavvie has joined #postfix[10:04:14] <Ramattack> smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, reject_non_fqdn_sender, reject_non_fqdn_recipient, reject_unknown_sender_domain, check_recipient_access hash:/etc/pos[10:04:14] <Ramattack> tfix/dominios_relay, check_recipient_access hash:/etc/postfix/pasarpoliticaono, permit_sasl_authenticated, reject_unauth_destination[10:05:20] <Ramattack> in dominios_relay I have set domaina.com reject_unlisted_recipient, domainb.com reject_unlisted_recipient, domainc.con check_recipient_access hash:/etc/postfix/relay_yahooes[10:05:36] <Ramattack> but doesn't work sais server configuration problem or directly a server error[10:06:15] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[10:11:47] *** [diablo] has joined #postfix[10:16:45] *** harobed has joined #postfix[10:18:12] *** madrescher has quit IRC[10:21:44] *** Lap_64 has quit IRC[10:24:04] <Ramattack> is it something you can do for avoiding verification_in_progress messages?[10:29:01] *** pa has joined #postfix[10:30:24] *** gammelmark has joined #postfix[10:31:36] *** EasilyOdd has quit IRC[10:31:51] <gammelmark> can't i use postqueue or similar to display the subject of the mails in the queue instead of just sender/receiver?[10:42:19] *** RedShift has joined #postfix[10:43:05] *** rootsvr has joined #postfix[11:05:45] <f3ew> gammelmark, no[11:10:50] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[11:13:10] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[11:29:36] *** gammelmark has quit IRC[11:35:00] *** PhilKC has quit IRC[11:37:11] *** muecke77 has joined #Postfix[11:43:10] *** nox has quit IRC[11:43:38] *** nox has joined #postfix[11:44:30] *** PhilKC has joined #Postfix[11:46:21] *** hever has joined #postfix[11:47:26] *** loddafnir has joined #postfix[11:49:22] <drzed_> hi there[11:50:58] <drzed_> is it ok to have comments like that in my main.cf[11:51:02] <drzed_> mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8 192.168.0.0/16 # my private lany 111.22.33.0/29 # my public ip addresses[11:51:12] <rio> man 5 postconf[11:51:33] <Ramattack> does anybody used reject_unverified_recipient?[11:51:48] <Ramattack> I say because it's config parameters are quite difficult to understand[11:51:52] *** berges has joined #postfix[11:52:11] <Ramattack> what does it mean for example address_verify_positive_expire_time?[11:52:18] *** Knoedel2 has joined #postfix[11:52:22] <Ramattack> sorry[11:52:23] <Ramattack> this one was[11:52:24] <Ramattack> address_verify_positive_refresh_time[11:53:26] <Ramattack> or...[11:53:27] <Ramattack> address_verify_poll_delay[11:54:14] <dragonheart> what aspect of the offical expaination do you not understand http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#address_verify_positive_refresh_time[11:54:38] <Ramattack> well in regular terms[11:54:57] <Ramattack> I assume that postfix caches possitive attemps done by verify in reject_unverified_recipient[11:55:17][11:56:19] <dragonheart> thats what i'd assume too[11:56:20] <Ramattack> and after that period they're refreshed, if refresh is ok another address_verify_positive_expire_time will be in cache... if this attemp fails (or gives a reject I understand) it will retry it in 7days? is this ok?[11:57:12] <Ramattack> and if you query and no value or another kind of error is obtained it asks three times to the remote server before it gives the 450 in progress error[11:57:31] <Ramattack> each tree times it tries wait 3 seconds between thems[11:57:34] <Ramattack> and for negative...[11:58:14] <Ramattack> if negative value (a non existent mailbox) is obtained from remote server that value is preserved address_verify_negative_expire_time[11:58:29] <drzed_> thx rio[11:58:44] <dragonheart> while it may be tempting to tune every parameter all have statisfactory defaults so KISS unless you have a real need to change something[11:58:59] <Ramattack> if on refresh event of negative value gives a failure (not of unexistent mailbox)... it retrys it in 3 hours[11:59:11] <Ramattack> could be this what sais postfix official doc?[11:59:15] <Ramattack> have I understand well?[11:59:57] <rio> dragonheart: np :)[12:00:10] <rio> drzed_: i meant you :P[12:00:15] *** stefan-f has joined #postfix[12:00:25] <stefan-f> !backscatter[12:00:26] <knoba> stefan-f: "backscatter" : http://www.postfix.org/BACKSCATTER_README.html[12:01:26] *** Tjikkun_work has joined #postfix[12:01:27] <Ramattack> dragonheart, what do u mean with that?[12:03:17] <dragonheart> i'm not going to verify the whole manual just to increase your understanding. you seem to just want to change a few parameteres without having a cause. so with your configuration Keep It Simple Stupid until something really doesn't work for you[12:04:27] <Ramattack> ok listened :)[12:04:42] <Ramattack> thanks a lot :)[12:07:11] <dragonheart> np - sorry if i was too blunt.[12:08:35] *** wdp has joined #postfix[12:09:14] <Ramattack> no problema mafe[12:09:21] <Ramattack> no problem mate ;)[12:10:07] *** Fallenou has joined #postfix[12:10:10] <stefan-f> Hello all :)[12:10:12] *** Fallenou has quit IRC[12:11:40] <stefan-f> today we had a backscatter problem[12:12:04] <stefan-f> maildesign is -> postfix-> exchange 2003[12:12:39] <stefan-f> the user that get that bounced messages is located on that exchange machine[12:13:14] <stefan-f> what is the best solution for preventing backscattering to that exchange machine?[12:13:40] <stefan-f> Or someone knows if there is a solution for M$exchange?[12:14:19] <dragonheart> make postfix aware of the users in the echange using a ldap map[12:14:28] <Trengo> reject mail for him, temporarily?[12:14:34] *** Mavvie has quit IRC[12:14:51] <dragonheart> or kolab (search it)[12:15:36] <stefan-f> theres no way in the moment to use kolab[12:15:47] *** muecke77 has left #Postfix[12:15:48] <stefan-f> internal they want M$....[12:15:54] *** turdzzz has joined #postfix[12:16:31] <dragonheart> what's the reason for hte bounce?[12:20:11] *** jamola has joined #postfix[12:21:17] <jamola> postfix/smtpd[22932]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from unknown[202.123.250.30]: 554 <ne@externaldomaink>: Relay access denied; from=<test@mydomain> to=<nauman@externaldomaink> proto=ESMTP helo=<deployer>[12:21:22] <jamola> any idea what do to[12:23:59] *** Fallenou has joined #postfix[12:24:36] *** [diablo] has quit IRC[12:25:12] <Trengo> its backscatter[12:25:16] <jamola> i am trying to send mail from outlook from internet to my mail server remotely[12:25:22] *** Zeit|awy has joined #postfix[12:25:25] <Trengo> disable the account temporarily[12:26:12] <Trengo> or accept and move to quarantine if sender is <> or mailer-daemon or postmaster[12:26:41] *** wdp has left #postfix[12:40:55] *** dragonheart has quit IRC[12:42:28] *** madrescher has joined #postfix[12:44:30] *** pvh_sa|wrk has joined #postfix[12:45:07] <pvh_sa|wrk> heya... does anyone know howtos on how to block spam backscatter with postfix? besides the stuff in the main documentation?[12:45:12] *** sysadmin-lb22 has joined #postfix[12:45:23] <sysadmin-lb22> hi all what is the command that i need to run when I change the alises file in postfix[12:46:03] <pvh_sa|wrk> sysadmin-lb22, postalias[12:47:52] *** rootsvr_ has joined #postfix[12:48:20] *** havvg has joined #postfix[12:51:59] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[12:52:26] *** fifo_ has left #postfix[12:54:43] <sysadmin-lb22> pvh_sa|wrk, if I add an alias line for example.. newuserAlias myUsername does the newuserAlias have to exist as an account ?[12:55:21] <sysadmin-lb22> I did the alias setup and did postalias /etc/asliases and then restarted postfix..but when I send an email to the alias from it says mailbox not found[12:55:34] <pvh_sa|wrk> sysadmin-lb22, you meant newuserAlias: myUsername ?[12:55:43] <sysadmin-lb22> yes[12:56:16] <sysadmin-lb22> majordomo-owner: tester2[12:56:31] <pvh_sa|wrk> you can test your aliases setup with postalias too[12:56:48] <sysadmin-lb22> I am setting up majordomo ..when I send an email to majordomo-owner i get a 550.[12:57:02] <sysadmin-lb22> I thought it will accept and deliver to tester2[12:57:06] <sysadmin-lb22> tester2 is a valid user[12:57:10] <sysadmin-lb22> with mailbox[12:57:47] <pvh_sa|wrk> so when you go postalias hash:/etc/aliases tester2 what does it say?[12:58:30] <pvh_sa|wrk> sorry postalias hash:/etc/aliases -q tester2[12:59:14] <sysadmin-lb22> postalias: fatal: open -q: No such file or directory[12:59:36] <adaptr> postalias -q[12:59:55] <sysadmin-lb22> postalias: option requires an argument -- q[13:00:04] <pvh_sa|wrk> drat, sorry again. yes, wrong command line order. feeling a bit lightheaded today ;)[13:00:28] <pvh_sa|wrk> just to be sure, what is your alias_database in /etc/main.cf set to?[13:01:24] <sysadmin-lb22> alias_database = hash:/etc/postfix/aliases[13:02:01] <pvh_sa|wrk> ah ha. so you've been working on /etc/aliases, and postfix is looking in /etc/postfix/aliases ;)[13:02:14] <sysadmin-lb22> ooooops[13:02:33] <sysadmin-lb22> what is better[13:02:51] <sysadmin-lb22> setup /etc/postfix/aliases or change the alias_database[13:03:12] *** e__ is now known as e_[13:03:26] <pvh_sa|wrk> i really don't know. i think i'd probably setup the /etc/postfix/aliases[13:03:52] <sysadmin-lb22> allright done that[13:03:54] <sysadmin-lb22> added line[13:04:06] <sysadmin-lb22> postalias /etc/postfix/aliases[13:04:11] <sysadmin-lb22> anything else before I test ?[13:04:49] <pvh_sa|wrk> nope, not that i can think of ;)[13:05:20] *** rootsvr has quit IRC[13:05:45] <sysadmin-lb22> postfix restart ? did that..but it is necessary to do it if I change values in the postfix file ?[13:05:56] <adaptr> very[13:05:58] *** ex1stenz has joined #postfix[13:05:59] <ex1stenz> http://www.colectionarul.com/existenz1.html[13:06:00] <pvh_sa|wrk> anyway, another question: is there a way to trigger body_checks only for message with Return-Path = <> (i.e. bounces)[13:08:00] *** berges has quit IRC[13:10:07] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[13:11:22] <ex1stenz> http://www.colectionarul.com/existenz1.html[13:12:27] *** ex1stenz has left #postfix[13:15:19] *** e_ has left #postfix[13:16:02] <sysadmin-lb22> Hi ..my domain is abc.com however incoming emails are received as someserveer.10.10.10.com domain and postfix is refusing to serve that mailbox and says mailbox not found[13:16:27] <sysadmin-lb22> to to=<tester2 at ip-208-109-117-11 dot ip.secureserver.net> instead of tester2 at mydomain dot com[13:20:45] <adaptr> do you have a proper MX record ?[13:21:16] *** jamola has quit IRC[13:29:12] <sysadmin-lb22> yes[13:29:28] <sysadmin-lb22> adaptr, I can send to x at mydomian dot com from gmail[13:30:46] <adaptr> and what do the logs from that test show ?[13:31:51] <sysadmin-lb22> http://pastebin.com/m691ade72[13:32:16] <sysadmin-lb22> adaptr, http://pastebin.com/m691ade72[13:33:46] <adaptr> your hostname is nonsense[13:33:49] <adaptr> fix it[13:34:57] *** PhilKC has quit IRC[13:34:58] *** PhilKC_ has joined #Postfix[13:39:02] *** PhilKC_ is now known as PhilKC[13:43:39] <sysadmin-lb22> did hostname abc.com[13:43:41] <sysadmin-lb22> still the same[13:43:49] <sysadmin-lb22> should I restart postfix ?[13:43:50] <adaptr> no[13:44:08] <adaptr> you should verify that your machine hostname, the mailername AND the HELO name are all proper and valid and - usually - identical[13:44:18] <adaptr> identical to the MX record[13:44:38] *** ramoni has joined #postfix[13:45:06] <adaptr> !basic[13:45:06] <knoba> adaptr: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[13:45:56] *** Joelwork has joined #postfix[13:58:15] *** Nockian has quit IRC[13:59:01] *** jelly has joined #postfix[13:59:37] <LMJ> hi[13:59:44] *** lunaphyte_ has joined #postfix[13:59:58] *** Ramattack has quit IRC[14:02:26] <lunaphyte_> http://xkcd.com/419/[14:04:31] <adaptr> that better be a postfix joke...[14:05:36] <lunaphyte_> or what?[14:05:55] <lunaphyte_> close - it's more a #postfix joke.[14:06:18] <adaptr> or I would have righteously smoted you for offtopicness![14:06:58] *** Mavvie has joined #postfix[14:07:34] <f3ew> lunaphyte_, the sporks?[14:07:55] <adaptr> foon foon foon... oh my beautiful foonspork[14:08:19] <lunaphyte_> f3ew: they have begun mutating![14:08:26] <adaptr> close[14:13:48] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[14:13:57] *** xpoint has quit IRC[14:14:13] <LMJ> hi[14:14:50] <LMJ> is there a difference between between list value with or without comma? ( mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8 (, ?) 168.100.189.2/32 )[14:15:08] <LMJ> separated by whitespace and/or commas[14:15:15] <LMJ> ok, no matter, found on the doc ;)[14:16:03] *** hemry has joined #postfix[14:18:50] *** DukGalNa1u has joined #postfix[14:18:51] *** DukGalNa2u has quit IRC[14:20:21] *** keffer has quit IRC[14:23:43] <bio___> hi, is there a way to get postfix to first check if an adress exists in one of the possible recipient maps, before it does a sender address verification?[14:24:09] <adaptr> you're talking about whitelisting, aren't you ?[14:24:30] <adaptr> postfix doesn't actually *do* sender address verification - no mailer does[14:24:44] <adaptr> *domain* verification is possible, up to a point[14:27:04] <bio___> i mean the reject_unverified_sender smtpd_sender_restriction[14:27:26] <bio___> where it connects to the mx for the domain and does a rcpt to:<....>[14:29:39] *** [diablo] has joined #postfix[14:31:32] <adaptr> then move the check to your recipient_restrictions, and swap the order[14:32:58] <f3ew> bio___ add reject_unlisted_recipient before the reject_unverified_sender[14:33:26] <bio___> ok perfect. thank you both[14:34:04] *** madrescher has quit IRC[14:34:31] *** dragonheart has joined #postfix[14:45:41] *** DeeJayTwo has joined #postfix[14:51:40] *** flart_ is now known as flart[14:57:21] *** rootsvr_ has quit IRC[15:04:37] *** Nockian has joined #postfix[15:06:15] *** magyar has quit IRC[15:11:27] <stefan-f> where can I see which postfix version I have?[15:12:53] *** madrescher has joined #postfix[15:16:07] <MarcWeber> stefan-f: Which distro?[15:16:32] <stefan-f> on suse 8.0[15:16:37] *** Deddi has quit IRC[15:17:33] *** Ramattack has joined #postfix[15:17:35] <Ramattack> Hi!![15:17:51] <MarcWeber> stefan-f: Don't know it's packaging system. There must be a command listing the files belonging the the package. Eiterh start executing /bin/executable --help or have a look at docs, or ask the package management system[15:18:34] <Ramattack> is it any possible way of viewing wich mails are on each queue (hold, deferred, incoming) with mailq?[15:19:14] *** hemry has quit IRC[15:22:42] *** madrescher has quit IRC[15:22:52] *** madrescher has joined #postfix[15:23:15] *** Jax has joined #postfix[15:25:00] *** _sho_ has left #postfix[15:28:21] <Ramattack> come a bit later[15:28:22] *** Ramattack has quit IRC[15:39:48] *** Joelwork has quit IRC[15:49:33] *** saurabhb has quit IRC[15:51:06] *** aut- has quit IRC[15:56:30] *** Zeit|awy has quit IRC[15:56:30] *** Knoedel2 has quit IRC[15:56:31] *** dhg has quit IRC[15:56:31] *** mathez has quit IRC[15:56:31] *** Signum has quit IRC[15:57:11] *** saurabhb has joined #postfix[15:57:46] *** saurabhb has quit IRC[16:01:38] *** Signum has joined #postfix[16:01:41] *** nphase has joined #postfix[16:02:52] *** Zeit|awy has joined #postfix[16:04:06] <stefan-f> found it:[16:04:22] <stefan-f> postconf -d |grep mail-version[16:05:19] <f3ew> postconf mail_version[16:09:59] *** nphase has quit IRC[16:14:49] *** mathez has joined #postfix[16:14:58] *** Signum_ has joined #postfix[16:15:35] *** dhg has joined #postfix[16:17:13] *** macsim`work has joined #postfix[16:18:02] <macsim`work> hi, I use postfix-mysql, and I looking for a solution to use vacation mode, I read the software "vacation" could do the job, but I use virtual email account, will it work for me ?[16:18:47] *** Ramattack has joined #postfix[16:18:53] <Ramattack> Hi!!![16:19:02] *** Knoedel2 has joined #postfix[16:19:12] <Ramattack> is it any possible way of viewing mail queue classified per queue name?[16:20:05] *** Signum_ has left #postfix[16:22:47] <Ramattack> have received a ctcp am I connected could u read me?[16:22:55] <macsim`work> yes[16:23:18] <Ramattack> ok :)[16:32:56] *** madrescher has quit IRC[16:34:36] *** madrescher has joined #postfix[16:44:12] *** Jax has quit IRC[16:45:06] *** impulze has quit IRC[16:45:58] <Ramattack> could anyone know it please?[16:46:52] <adaptr> Ramattack: man postqueue, methinks[16:47:08] <Ramattack> lets check[16:52:05] <Ramattack> well have seen that mailq gives * for active and ! for hold... so... else would be deferred or maildrop and maildrop is very little in my servers because no one sends from the server console messages...[16:52:23] <Ramattack> with mail or so...[16:55:53] <roe> Ramattack, if you want to visualize your queue, try pfqueue[16:55:54] <Ramattack> thanks adaptr :)+[16:56:02] <Ramattack> the + is in error :)[17:01:49] *** bieb has joined #postfix[17:02:16] *** knoedel_ has joined #postfix[17:02:18] *** Nockian has quit IRC[17:03:33] *** j_s has joined #postfix[17:10:18] *** SeJo_ has joined #postfix[17:11:01] *** Knoedel2 has quit IRC[17:14:51] *** nphase has joined #postfix[17:20:32] <Ramattack> roe, if mail queues are very large pfqueue gives you an error[17:20:43] <Ramattack> a segmention fault or something similar[17:20:58] *** SeJo has quit IRC[17:21:10] <roe> not for me, it will only display the first 200 in each queue, but never crashes[17:22:32] <Ramattack> I have seen a crash when I had 2000 mails or so...[17:28:36] *** SeJo_ is now known as SeJo[17:34:00] *** higuita has quit IRC[17:34:16] *** higuita has joined #postfix[17:34:38] *** nphase has quit IRC[17:35:57] *** Siegfried has joined #postfix[17:36:24] *** muecke77 has joined #Postfix[17:39:20] *** sergevn has joined #postfix[17:42:56] *** depquid has joined #postfix[17:43:10] *** Tjikkun_work has quit IRC[17:45:06] *** namit has joined #postfix[17:47:15] *** madrescher has quit IRC[17:48:38] *** stefan-f has quit IRC[17:52:26] <depquid> so, according to the way i read the manual, it appears that white space and commas have the same meaning in *_restrictions parameters[17:53:37] <depquid> does that mean that the following are functionally identical?[17:53:37] <depquid> smtpd_client_restrictions=check_client_access,hash:/etc/postfix/limitedaccess permit_sasl_authenticated reject[17:53:37] <depquid> smtpd_client_restrictions=check_client_access hash:/etc/postfix/limitedaccess,permit_sasl_authenticated,reject[17:56:00] *** pa has quit IRC[17:56:59] *** nox has quit IRC[17:59:09] *** tyrok has joined #postfix[18:01:49] *** brancaleone has joined #postfix[18:02:35] <tyrok> Hi! I've got a mailserver that I'm working on that had been misconfigured to deliver e-mail to an mbox file instead of a maildir. The standard for the server is to use a maildir, and now Dovecot can't read it. Is there a way to split up that mbox file into individual maildir messages?[18:03:15] *** Dominian_ has joined #postfix[18:03:53] *** Dominian has quit IRC[18:04:12] *** Dominian_ is now known as Dominian[18:05:39] *** muecke77 has quit IRC[18:05:46] *** muecke77 has joined #Postfix[18:06:00] *** nox has joined #postfix[18:07:55] *** sysadmin-lb22 has quit IRC[18:09:10] *** harobed has quit IRC[18:11:55] <depquid> tyrok: try perfect_maildir: http://perfectmaildir.home-dn.net/[18:12:29] *** fury_ has joined #postfix[18:13:42] *** higuita has quit IRC[18:14:01] *** higuita has joined #postfix[18:14:38] *** dazjorz_ has joined #postfix[18:14:42] *** dazjorz has quit IRC[18:15:21] *** Ramattack has quit IRC[18:15:46] *** _fury has quit IRC[18:19:52] *** nox has quit IRC[18:21:31] *** havvg has quit IRC[18:23:51] *** wdp has joined #postfix[18:24:03] *** wdp has left #postfix[18:24:40] *** dazjorz_ is now known as dazjorz[18:30:32] *** stefan-f has joined #postfix[18:30:38] *** jelly has quit IRC[18:30:38] *** rio has quit IRC[18:30:47] *** Nockian has joined #postfix[18:31:13] *** nox has joined #postfix[18:31:22] *** brancaleone has quit IRC[18:31:22] *** namit has quit IRC[18:31:23] *** j_s has quit IRC[18:31:23] *** depquid has quit IRC[18:31:25] *** kiliko has quit IRC[18:31:26] *** LMJ has quit IRC[18:31:26] *** Sieg has quit IRC[18:31:26] *** madclicker has quit IRC[18:31:26] *** F|oFF has quit IRC[18:31:26] *** rizi has quit IRC[18:31:27] *** Filbert has quit IRC[18:31:27] *** lysander has quit IRC[18:31:27] *** mXr has quit IRC[18:31:28] *** ikaro has quit IRC[18:31:28] *** echinos has quit IRC[18:32:33] *** jelly has joined #postfix[18:32:33] *** rio has joined #postfix[18:32:35] *** brancaleone has joined #postfix[18:32:35] *** namit has joined #postfix[18:32:35] *** depquid has joined #postfix[18:32:35] *** j_s has joined #postfix[18:32:35] *** kiliko has joined #postfix[18:32:35] *** LMJ has joined #postfix[18:32:35] *** Sieg has joined #postfix[18:32:35] *** madclicker has joined #postfix[18:32:35] *** Filbert has joined #postfix[18:32:35] *** echinos has joined #postfix[18:32:35] *** lysander has joined #postfix[18:32:35] *** rizi has joined #postfix[18:32:35] *** mXr has joined #postfix[18:32:35] *** F|oFF has joined #postfix[18:32:35] *** ikaro has joined #postfix[18:37:02] <tyrok> depquid: Perfect - thanks![18:38:51] *** CrazyFoam has quit IRC[18:39:47] *** CrazyFoam has joined #postfix[18:47:26] *** rootsvr has joined #postfix[18:47:28] *** githogori has quit IRC[19:04:45] *** loddafnir has quit IRC[19:11:23] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[19:13:43] *** Zblakany has joined #postfix[19:13:51] *** stormzen has joined #postfix[19:14:31] *** syneus has quit IRC[19:15:51] <stormzen> I have a poorly designed legacy windows application that I'm trying to get to send an email to a postfix server. Postfix is kicking back 501, but I'm not sure what to look for in all the logs to figure out what is being sent to it that it doesn't like.[19:20:22] <stefan-f> tail -f /var/log/mail or wherever your mail is going loged[19:23:10] *** rootsvr has quit IRC[19:23:49] <rob0> I'm not sure what the question is. Postfix logging is pretty easy to read. Is the server so busy that you can't just LOOK? And if so, does the syslogd not log a timestamp with each message? (Can't you correlate the time of the attempt with the log timestamps?) And if all else fails, grep for that 501?[19:25:15] *** albanach has joined #postfix[19:25:20] <stormzen> I tried grep "501" /var/log/*, but it didn't appear to return anything significant.[19:25:23] *** muecke77 has quit IRC[19:25:26] <stormzen> I'll keep hunting.[19:26:18] <albanach> curious if anyone bounce/drops mail when it gets above a spamassassin score?[19:26:52] *** amrit|zzz is now known as amrit|wrk[19:27:04] <rob0> Bouncing known spam is horribly wrong. It makes YOU a spammer.[19:28:26] <albanach> robb0: yeah, that was wrong - wasthinking during the smtp transaction, but spamassassin would need the message first :) So pretend I jsut said drop it[19:30:32] <stormzen> the problem, I guess, is the sheer number of logging messages. It is a clark-connect server, and I'm really not sure how to isolate the messages that I need in order to see what the rogue application is sending to postfix to process.[19:30:53] <rob0> !logs[19:30:53] <knoba> rob0: "logs" : by default, postfix logs to the mail facility of syslog. Something like grep -i `postconf -h syslog_facility` /etc/syslog.conf or grep -rl `postconf -h syslog_name` /var/log/* should tell you where logs are going.[19:34:02] *** turdzzz has quit IRC[19:34:42] *** turdzzz has joined #postfix[19:38:43] *** stefan__ has joined #postfix[19:39:09] *** Ramses_II has joined #postfix[19:41:15] *** hemry has joined #postfix[19:44:30] *** stefan-f has quit IRC[19:54:54] *** tyrok has quit IRC[19:55:13] *** muecke77 has joined #Postfix[19:57:54] *** linkslice has quit IRC[19:58:07] *** linkslice has joined #postfix[20:07:56] *** Zblakany has quit IRC[20:12:35] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[20:19:03] *** turdzzz has quit IRC[20:19:43] *** carl- has joined #postfix[20:20:52] *** carl- has quit IRC[20:21:22] *** carl- has joined #postfix[20:24:47] *** suuuper has quit IRC[20:28:26] *** inimino has joined #postfix[20:36:29] *** githogori has joined #postfix[20:38:50] <inimino> in Exim I can use the domain of an incoming mail to locate a configuration file; can Postfix do this?[20:39:09] <RainDoctor> it must be virtual domain setup[20:39:22] <inimino> yes it is[20:39:30] <RainDoctor> http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html[20:39:35] <inimino> I read that[20:39:45] <RainDoctor> hmm[20:39:52] <inimino> in Exim I have this:[20:40:05] <inimino> virtualuser:[20:40:05] <inimino> driver = accept[20:40:05] <inimino> domains = @mx_primary : +virtual_domains[20:40:05] <inimino> condition = ${if exists{/var/www/$domain/conf/email_users}}[20:40:06] <inimino> local_parts = lsearch;/var/www/$domain/conf/email_users[20:40:38] <inimino> the $domain is substituted from the incoming mail[20:41:15] <inimino> so if that file exists, it is used[20:41:50] <RainDoctor> i have no idea, but you can ask in the postfix mailing list[20:41:53] <inimino> it looks like Postfix can't do this from what I can tell, am I missing something?[20:42:00] <inimino> ok[20:43:19] *** felix_da_catz has joined #postfix[20:47:24] *** xpoint_ has joined #postfix[20:49:59] *** hoodow has joined #postfix[20:51:12] *** xpoint_ has quit IRC[20:51:29] *** xpoint has joined #postfix[21:03:56] *** stefan__ has quit IRC[21:04:01] *** stefan__ has joined #postfix[21:08:03] *** muecke77 has quit IRC[21:12:57] *** action09 has joined #postfix[21:15:55] * vice-versa chuckles[21:15:58] <vice-versa> host -t ns reliant4leads.com[21:15:58] <vice-versa> reliant4leads.com NS blockedduetospam.pleasecontactsupport.com[21:15:58] <vice-versa> reliant4leads.com NS dummysecondary.pleasecontactsupport.com[21:17:17] *** hever has quit IRC[21:29:11] *** captiancrash has joined #postfix[21:29:13] *** SeJo has quit IRC[21:30:10] *** SeJo has joined #postfix[21:31:00] <sysmonk> your domain vice-versa ? :)[21:32:51] <vice-versa> sysmonk: nope, was looking into the girth of network operations from a BCE complaint and came across that on one of their domains :)[21:33:19] *** miip has joined #postfix[21:34:37] <vice-versa> AccelerateBiz, AS15083 64.187.112.0/21[21:35:01] <vice-versa> the whole netblock is tainted imo[21:38:52] *** DukGalNamu has joined #postfix[21:38:57] *** DukGalNa1u has quit IRC[21:39:22] <miip> hi i followed http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-etch but had no loopback device so i had to modify it a bit... but now new mail gets written in /var/mail/root[21:39:22] <SeJo> .34[21:39:26] <miip> any ideas?[21:41:07] *** rootsvr has joined #postfix[21:42:36] <vice-versa> get a loopback device, they're free ;)[21:44:09] <miip> can't :)[21:44:28] <vice-versa> vps?[21:44:40] <miip> yes[21:47:17] *** pirho has joined #postfix[21:52:28] *** quieteyes has joined #postfix[21:52:47] *** hparker has joined #postfix[21:53:45] *** captiancrash has left #postfix[21:55:53] *** smultron has joined #postfix[21:57:04] <smultron> is it possible to "BCC" all email from a single account to another?[21:57:04] *** cpm has joined #postfix[21:57:25] <RedShift> smultron: yes[21:57:31] <RedShift> smultron: sender_bcc, recipient_bcc[21:58:50] <growltiger_> !always_bcc[21:58:51] <knoba> growltiger_: "always_bcc" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional address that receives a "blind carbon copy" of each message that is received by the Postfix mail system.[21:59:15] <growltiger_> !sender_bcc[21:59:16] <knoba> growltiger_: Error: "sender_bcc" is not a valid command.[21:59:22] <smultron> yeah, i don't want every message on the server. just one account[21:59:28] <growltiger_> !recipient_bcc[21:59:29] <knoba> growltiger_: Error: "recipient_bcc" is not a valid command.[21:59:33] <smultron> in... main.cf, RedShift?[22:00:10] <RedShift> smultron: http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#recipient_bcc_maps[22:00:23] <RedShift> smultron: http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#sender_bcc_maps[22:00:29] <smultron> RedShift: Thanks :)[22:00:38] *** rootsvr has quit IRC[22:01:00] *** UQlev has quit IRC[22:05:07] *** havvg has joined #postfix[22:20:40] *** RedShift has quit IRC[22:21:45] *** madrescher has joined #postfix[22:40:22] *** ramoni has quit IRC[22:40:42] *** ramoni has joined #postfix[22:40:54] *** Zblakany has joined #postfix[22:44:01] *** bieb has left #postfix[22:48:11] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[22:49:29] <miip> why is my spammail dated back? sendmail test@test < /usr/share/doc/spamassassin/examples/sample-spam.txt -> maildate 23.07.2003 23:30[22:50:21] <miip> sendmail test@test < /usr/share/doc/spamassassin/examples/gnus -> maildate 05.05.2008 22:50[22:50:35] <miip> ideas? :)[22:51:40] *** ramoni has quit IRC[22:52:09] <Dominian> yeah the date on the server is wrong?[22:52:43] <miip> no its not[22:52:55] <Dominian> wait[22:53:00] <Dominian> what's the date on sample-spam.txt file?[22:53:03] <Dominian> ls -al sample-spam.txt[22:54:32] <miip> mmh[22:55:42] <Dominian> I'd say it has something to do with the timestamps on the file you're using[22:55:48] <Dominian> try doing a "touch sample-spam.txt"[22:55:51] <Dominian> and then redothe test[22:56:03] <miip> ahh ok found it[22:56:10] <miip> thx ;)[22:56:23] <Dominian> np[22:58:24] *** smultron has quit IRC[22:58:43] *** carl- has quit IRC[23:02:02] *** fury_ has quit IRC[23:02:10] *** fury_ has joined #postfix[23:17:39] *** muecke77 has joined #Postfix[23:19:57] *** j_s has quit IRC[23:24:56] *** linkslice has quit IRC[23:25:19] *** linkslice has joined #postfix[23:30:41] *** [diablo] has quit IRC[23:38:56] *** muecke77 has left #Postfix[23:39:33] *** havvg has quit IRC[23:40:01] *** UQlev has quit IRC[23:43:29] *** atilaX has joined #postfix[23:43:53] *** hemry has quit IRC[23:47:06] *** MarcWeber has left #postfix[23:58:59] *** hever has joined #postfix