November 27, 2007 
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November 27, 2007 [00:00:22] *** pitakill_ has joined #postfix[00:01:59] *** Aw0L has quit IRC[00:03:39] *** duki has quit IRC[00:06:18] <tolecnal> it's official. I hate Hotmail[00:07:00] *** havvg has quit IRC[00:08:25] *** hparker has quit IRC[00:09:39] *** hparker has joined #postfix[00:11:50] *** rphillips has joined #postfix[00:12:21] <rphillips> is there a way to block an IP with postfix for too many failed attempts?[00:13:03] <rphillips> btw, postfixwiki.org is not working for me[00:14:15] *** madclicker has quit IRC[00:14:20] *** madclicker has joined #postfix[00:15:51] *** theblackbox has quit IRC[00:16:24] *** theblackbox has joined #postfix[00:16:35] *** rokra has joined #postfix[00:18:55] *** felix_da_catz has quit IRC[00:19:05] <war> Anyone have a good FAQ/webpage on configuring exchange? I e-mailed a company (web company) cause I always have to whitelsit them telling them they need to fix their stuff but they use exchange/windows :([00:20:27] <adaptr> tell them to use teh Wizard[00:26:00] <war> their HELO does not even equal an FQDn[00:26:04] <war> the wizard sets that up for them?[00:26:41] <adaptr> everything MS has wizards, yes ?[00:26:51] <adaptr> not that they're particularly good, or even sufficient[00:27:05] <adaptr> but if they screw this up, you can bet they won't know how to rectify it[00:27:25] *** irule has quit IRC[00:27:51] <war> indeed :([00:30:24] <tolecnal> ah well, I pretty much want to give up this fight getting Hotmail to accept the mails my server sends out[00:30:40] <tolecnal> and no, they don't have a wizard to fix it[00:32:27] <rob0> tolecnal: You can only do what you can do. You cannot force Hotmail to get a clue.[00:33:32] <rob0> I think they keep short-term blacklists. You get on it by sending non-spam. After awhile it times out, you send non-spam again, and they flip a coin again.[00:34:02] *** pitakill_ has quit IRC[00:34:46] <tolecnal> rob0: apparently so.. they won't accept my mail, even though my a-records are fine, my mx-records are fine, even my PTR record is right. then there's the SPF record, which is also correct. my domain/IP is not blacklisted. so there is no reason why Hotmail should refuse my mails.. ah well[00:35:05] <tolecnal> and yes, it feels like you've described it there.. let's flip a coin to decide[00:35:14] <tolecnal> just that the coin seems heavier on one side[00:36:34] <rob0> Do tell your Hotmail correspondents that they're using the world's worst major mail service.[00:36:48] <adaptr> "the biggest of the bad"[00:37:40] <tolecnal> i'm contemplating sending off an e-mail, and at best it might get read.. but I have a sneaking suspicion that it just goes directly to /dev/null[00:39:57] <rob0> Only minor thing, what are you using as $myhostname?[00:40:08] <rob0> I see they have your rDNS now.[00:40:38] <tolecnal> rob0: myhostname = mail.xiro.net[00:40:47] <tolecnal> which is the MX for the server, with the right A-record[00:41:02] <rob0> Okay, that's at best a minor problem, but with hotmail, who knows?[00:47:36] <tolecnal> i've tried to the best of my abilities to find out why it refuses me, but found no valid reason.. so back to the coin theory :P[00:58:59] *** darkphader has joined #postfix[00:59:38] *** darkphader has quit IRC[00:59:47] *** darkphader has joined #postfix[01:06:47] *** pitakill has quit IRC[01:07:05] *** war has quit IRC[01:16:18] <hparker> tolecnal: I heard a rumor they alternate between accepting mail from even and odd IPs[01:17:05] <tolecnal> well, then they must be on odd IP's today :/[01:17:48] <hparker> It's as valid as any other reason I've heard[01:33:10] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[01:56:38] *** meandtheshell has quit IRC[02:04:34] *** prebur has joined #postfix[02:05:09] *** hparker has quit IRC[02:09:39] *** oates is now known as oates|zzzZ[02:10:23] *** hparker has joined #postfix[02:18:29] *** rob0_ has quit IRC[02:21:52] *** Zeit|awy has joined #postfix[02:22:53] *** rob0_ has joined #postfix[02:27:25] *** dduong has quit IRC[02:37:13] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[03:01:40] *** solar_ant has quit IRC[03:04:49] *** Tachy has joined #postfix[03:08:12] *** Kalavera has quit IRC[03:13:31] *** mapu has quit IRC[03:14:43] *** Shihan has joined #postfix[03:16:10] *** Tachy_ has quit IRC[03:26:02] <Shihan> hi guys... i got a bit of a config question... i've got postfix working with maildrop, and everythings fine, but im trying to mail mailfilter send a copy of a message with a certain header to another email address but i dont seem to be getting anywhere, anyone got any suggestions?[03:26:28] <Shihan> s/mail mailfilter/make mailfiter/[03:28:30] *** Casan has quit IRC[03:33:57] *** mikefoo has quit IRC[03:43:02] *** pirho has quit IRC[03:51:10] *** PhilKC has quit IRC[03:51:48] <context> is it normal for spamassassin to take 8 seconds to scan a message[03:53:32] *** githogori has quit IRC[04:03:11] <hparker> sounds like slow dns to me, it times out after 5 seconds iirc[04:05:08] <context> ahh[04:09:45] *** Motoko-chan has quit IRC[04:27:17] *** Tachy has quit IRC[04:28:42] *** amrit|wrk is now known as amrit|afk[04:33:06] *** knoba has quit IRC[04:33:17] *** knoba has joined #postfix[04:36:39] *** Shihan has left #postfix[04:39:34] *** solar_ant has joined #postfix[04:42:20] *** knoba has quit IRC[04:42:25] *** Blazeix has joined #postfix[04:42:37] *** knoba has joined #postfix[04:51:09] <Blazeix> Hi, I'm new to mail servers in general. If I wanted to make it so webmaster at myserver dot com redirected to my email address (not on myserver.com, but my personal email address), where would I define this?[04:58:39] <sysmonk> in the aliases file[05:00:52] *** xored has left #postfix[05:02:16] <Blazeix> I was looking at the aliases file, and it says it is for local aliases.[05:02:32] *** kk_CHN has joined #postfix[05:02:44] <Blazeix> Will that work if the email address isn't on the local server[05:02:51] <Dominian> should[05:03:36] *** mw-home has left #postfix[05:07:18] <Blazeix> o.k., thanks, I'll try that.[05:08:00] *** jbAU has joined #postfix[05:08:39] *** PhilKC has joined #Postfix[05:11:57] *** tolecnal_ has joined #postfix[05:13:44] *** githogori has joined #postfix[05:16:29] *** clusterer has joined #postfix[05:17:36] *** bhagat has joined #postfix[05:19:04] <clusterer> hi, anyone on who has dealt with multiple systems running postfix for a single domain?[05:25:49] *** Motoko-chan has joined #postfix[05:29:00] *** tolecnal has quit IRC[05:29:01] *** tolecnal_ is now known as tolecnal[06:03:42] *** solar_ant has quit IRC[06:04:48] *** solar_ant has joined #postfix[06:09:28] <Blazeix> Whenever I run "newaliases" I get "postalias: fatal: open database /etc/aliases.db: Permission denied." The aliases.db files doesn't exist, though. Has anyone seen this before?[06:12:54] <f3ew> are you doing this as root?[06:13:02] <f3ew> Do you have selinux/apparmor enabled?[06:15:08] <Blazeix> yes, I'm doing this as root. I do have selinux installed.[06:15:51] <Blazeix> selinux is set to permissive, though[06:17:23] <clusterer> can someone point me in the direction of how to forward mail arriving on one node in a loadbalanced setup to another node based on the domain name?[06:18:01] *** rokra has quit IRC[06:28:24] <f3ew> Blazeix, that error has been known to happen when selinux was active[06:28:31] <f3ew> clusterer virtual_alias_maps[06:28:54] <clusterer> f3ew: ok thanks, I'll look it up[06:29:13] <f3ew> !virtual_alias_maps[06:29:13] <knoba> f3ew: "virtual_alias_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup tables that alias specific mail addresses or domains to other local or remote address. The table format and lookups are documented in virtual(5).[06:29:49] <clusterer> once it gets rewritten by virtual_alias_maps it can then be passed over to another box?[06:30:03] <clusterer> or will it still get delivered on the receiving box[06:31:02] <f3ew> clusterer, it moves on[06:31:16] <clusterer> f3ew: thank you[06:31:23] <Blazeix> f3ew: If sestatus says "disabled" that means all of selinux is disabled right? I don't have to reboot in order for it to take effect?[06:31:38] <f3ew> Blazeix, it should[06:31:56] <f3ew> clusterer, you probably need to do something like this[06:32:21] <f3ew> user at example dot com user-example.com at secret dot internal.domain[06:32:58] <clusterer> now when i get the mail in the mailbox[06:33:14] <clusterer> it will look like it was to user@secret domain[06:33:23] <f3ew> and secret.internal.domain has MX or A records pointing to the correct host[06:33:26] <f3ew> clusterer, no[06:33:35] <f3ew> you only rewrite the envelope, not the headers[06:34:44] <clusterer> f3ew: thats where i get lost .... my named server has entries for smtp[06:34:55] <clusterer> f3ew: and that is a virtual ip[06:35:06] <clusterer> f3ew: which is then load balanced between 2 real servers[06:35:21] <clusterer> f3ew: entries = MX entries[06:42:55] *** jack|ass has joined #postfix[06:43:47] <jack|ass> I've got some messages "stuck" in my postfix queue with an error about it not being able to open /var/run/dspam.sock. I have dspam disabled and removed it from my config. However flushing the messages seems to still try to run it thorugh it. How can i resolve that so those messages can be delivered?[06:47:53] <f3ew> jack|ass postsuper -r ALL[06:48:05] <jack|ass> f3ew: I want to deliver them, not zap em. :)[06:48:10] <jack|ass> f3ew: that's the problem.[06:48:32] <jack|ass> oh, i'm sorry.[06:48:39] * jack|ass actually looks up what that does.[06:48:42] <f3ew> heh[06:49:17] <jack|ass> I thought -r was remove, not delete. :)[06:49:28] <jack|ass> At any rate, that seems to have done the trick, thanks![06:50:16] <jack|ass> hey, what book d'yall recommend for Postfix? The O'Reilly one or the No-Starch Press one?[06:51:07] <f3ew> Ralf's book[06:52:56] <jack|ass> good. That's the one I snagged. I only took a quick look at it (and won't have more time till later this week), but it got better ratings than the other one.[06:54:49] *** pitakill has quit IRC[07:16:52] <clusterer> f3ew: you still around?[07:17:04] *** jack|ass has left #postfix[07:21:20] <f3ew> yes[07:32:01] <clusterer> f3ew: do i need to set the relay_domains on the node not receiving the mail?[07:32:35] <clusterer> err not the final destination of the mail[07:32:48] <f3ew> no[07:33:39] <clusterer> ok[07:33:40] <clusterer> thanks[07:37:02] <clusterer> f3ew: hmm it keeps rejecting saying 'relay access is denied'[07:37:18] *** diveli has quit IRC[07:37:27] <clusterer> f3ew: my virtial map entry has: @example.com @node1[07:37:43] <clusterer> f3ew: node1 is set to the internal ip adddress of that node[07:39:09] <f3ew> you need to list the domains in virtual_alias_maps[07:39:16] <f3ew> and don't use catchalls like that[07:40:37] <clusterer> list the domains in virtual_alias_domains right?[07:40:47] <f3ew> yes[07:42:20] *** Chris-NB has joined #postfix[07:42:58] <clusterer> and dont use catchalls because? I should actually list out all the real users i want to forward along?[07:43:01] *** rati has joined #postfix[07:43:38] <f3ew> yes[07:43:46] <f3ew> otherwise you will generate lots of bounces[07:45:22] <sysmonk> catchall's are good! especialy when you forward them to f3ew[07:46:07] <clusterer> hmm guess its a real noob question[07:46:46] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[07:47:08] <sysmonk> clusterer: nah, it's only bad for your health[07:49:58] <clusterer> sysmonk: well looks like he mailsystem sends back a message whnever you send to an illegal recipient[07:50:07] <clusterer> is this what you are referring to[07:50:08] <clusterer> ?[07:50:38] <f3ew> yes[07:52:08] <clusterer> hmm guess i need to turn that off then[07:52:36] *** Greyfox has joined #postfix[07:53:41] <Greyfox> hi there folks, i'm installing postfix on my vps that doesn't have a domain name yet (just an IP address), and it's asking for my system mail name. is this something I can change later and just keep named the current setting (name of my vps)?[07:54:07] <f3ew> Greyfox you can change the name any time you like[07:54:16] <Greyfox> excellent, thank you f3ew[07:54:22] <f3ew> the variable to set is myhostname[07:54:30] <clusterer> f3ew: how can i stop the bounce messages?[07:54:43] <Greyfox> okay perfect, thank you again[07:54:59] <f3ew> clusterer, list valid recipients in virtual_alias_maps[07:56:14] <clusterer> f3ew: ok[07:57:08] *** jbAU has quit IRC[07:58:59] <clusterer> f3ew: ok I think I see my problem. I have one virtual ip address at my firewall[07:59:18] <clusterer> it is load balancing two internal servers at 10.0.0.100 and 10.0.0.101[07:59:31] <clusterer> that virtual IP is my smtp ip[07:59:58] *** [1]rati has joined #postfix[07:59:59] <clusterer> now when the mail happens to hit 10.0.0.101, where no mailbox exists[08:00:13] <clusterer> i want it to kick it over to 10.0.0.100[08:00:23] <clusterer> thats where the virtual mailbox lives[08:00:46] *** rati has quit IRC[08:00:47] *** [1]rati is now known as rati[08:01:05] <clusterer> i tried to do a vritual alias where @example.com on the 10.0.0.101 maps to @10.0.0.100[08:01:15] <clusterer> but it didnt like it[08:01:52] <clusterer> and I cant just kick it back to smtp.example.com, cuz it could be loadbalanced right back to where it came from[08:02:07] <clusterer> any ideas on how to handle my situation?[08:02:14] *** rati has quit IRC[08:02:26] *** rati has joined #postfix[08:04:27] <f3ew> use two hostnames _internally_[08:05:39] *** rootsvr has joined #postfix[08:06:13] <clusterer> ahh set $myhostname=mail1.example.com on the 10.0.0.100[08:06:32] <clusterer> and $mhostname = mail2.example.com on the 10.0.0.101[08:06:36] <clusterer> something like that[08:12:45] *** Greyfox has left #postfix[08:21:17] *** rootsvr has quit IRC[08:24:01] *** dwxreaper has quit IRC[08:24:23] *** Internat has quit IRC[08:30:07] *** Motoko-chan has quit IRC[08:45:25] *** Internat has joined #postfix[08:55:29] *** harpal has joined #postfix[08:56:08] <clusterer> how can i disable bounces?[08:56:13] <clusterer> I am usig a virtual mailbox[08:56:22] <clusterer> using[08:57:14] <context> a catch all ? change bounce_queue_lifetime[08:57:36] <context> there are a few disable_ options for bounces[08:57:46] <clusterer> hmm ok i will look up[08:57:48] <clusterer> thank you[09:02:16] <clusterer> can i just reject mails[09:02:34] <clusterer> and not go thru all the troube of processing them and sending them to null?[09:02:41] <clusterer> (the catch all method)[09:03:54] <f3ew> clusterer, list valid recipients in virtual_alias_maps[09:04:03] <clusterer> it doesnt work[09:04:08] <clusterer> i tried that[09:04:13] <clusterer> im using a virtual mailbox[09:04:17] <f3ew> sure works[09:04:29] <f3ew> as long as you don't have the catchall[09:04:34] <clusterer> and when i tested it using explicit valid recips it still bounces[09:04:59] *** hooch has quit IRC[09:06:57] *** hooch has joined #postfix[09:10:37] *** hparker has quit IRC[09:15:14] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[09:19:09] *** altoid has joined #postfix[09:25:19] *** whatever_ has joined #postfix[09:27:22] *** codestr0m has joined #postfix[09:29:07] *** mrfree has joined #postfix[09:31:02] <mrfree> hi all[09:32:42] *** harobed has joined #postfix[09:32:47] <mrfree> I'm going to update my postfix from 2.3.6 to 2.4.5, should I need to follow any particular procedure/trick?[09:38:27] *** tarik has joined #postfix[09:43:12] *** whatever__ has quit IRC[09:48:23] *** Pazzo has joined #postfix[09:52:58] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[09:53:59] <`nico> plop tlm[09:55:18] *** mrfree has quit IRC[09:55:46] *** aozturk has joined #postfix[09:58:21] <codestr0m> anyone in here hacked zimbra before? I'm curious what obstacles I may come across.. my main goal.. as was recommended yesterday.. is 1) keep my existing postfix setup as much as possible 2) just use their db driven mail storage. 3) probably use their imap/pop3 daemons.. and build what I want from on top of that..[10:02:06] *** war has joined #postfix[10:06:17] *** Jax has joined #postfix[10:07:15] <f3ew> 3 would be fastest[10:09:07] <codestr0m> f3ew: I'm pulling the sources now to see how integrated it all is[10:10:16] <f3ew> codestr0m, the pop3d, imapd, mail store and mysql are tightly integrated[10:10:21] <f3ew> the rest is simple[10:11:09] <codestr0m> f3ew: so think I can keep my existing postfix and just add their mailstore on it with minimal config changes and get all the db backed benefits?[10:12:16] <f3ew> codestr0m, db backend benefits?[10:12:50] <codestr0m> f3ew: storing mail in the db so I can index/search it. someone mentioned this yesterday.. and it's looking more and more like that's the case[10:14:55] <f3ew> codestr0m they don't store mail in the db[10:15:14] <f3ew> It's indexed via lucene[10:15:47] <codestr0m> f3ew: lol. wait. isn't that exactly what I wanted to design yesterday.. ok. square one with a some code to steal....[10:15:53] *** cutmasta has joined #postfix[10:17:27] *** oates|zzzZ is now known as oates|AFK[10:22:07] *** Jax has quit IRC[10:22:32] *** jbAU has joined #postfix[10:23:25] *** brancaleone has joined #postfix[10:24:36] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[10:25:15] *** `nico has quit IRC[10:25:28] *** githogori has quit IRC[10:28:48] *** `nico has joined #postfix[10:32:41] *** steven_ has joined #postfix[10:32:57] *** steven_ is now known as punkpussy[10:33:09] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[10:34:21] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[10:35:08] *** Lap_64 has joined #postfix[10:40:19] *** `nico has left #postfix[10:45:17] *** jbAU has quit IRC[10:52:43] *** amrit|afk is now known as amrit|zzz[10:56:33] *** clusterer has left #postfix[11:03:18] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[11:05:42] *** meandtheshell has joined #postfix[11:05:58] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[11:13:32] *** Lap_64 has quit IRC[11:13:47] *** Lap_64 has joined #postfix[11:14:13] <goo> Nice. Borderware MX gateways use postfix on some BSD variant.[11:14:30] <goo> (We have a techie here for a demo now :)[11:20:48] *** meandtheshell has quit IRC[11:28:28] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[11:31:19] *** Oddmonger has joined #postfix[11:31:26] <Oddmonger> hello.[11:33:01] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[11:33:19] <Oddmonger> I know this is not the suitable chan, but i didn't find any chan about mail/mailx[11:33:44] <Oddmonger> do you know if there's a way for forwarding a spool in the mailbox with mail command ?[11:37:38] <f3ew> use the formail tool from the procmail package[11:37:43] <f3ew> or mutt[11:37:53] *** asmas has joined #postfix[11:38:36] <Oddmonger> i cannot use mail, as i want to process in a batch[11:38:45] <Oddmonger> i give a look at formail, thank you[11:59:17] *** tarik has quit IRC[12:00:09] *** tarik has joined #postfix[12:01:26] *** ramoni has joined #postfix[12:01:38] *** tarik has quit IRC[12:02:55] *** tarik has joined #postfix[12:07:44] *** Oddmonger has left #postfix[12:11:28] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[12:15:19] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[12:19:04] *** kreg has quit IRC[12:20:14] *** Sweeper_ has joined #postfix[12:20:22] *** Sweeper has quit IRC[12:25:15] *** duki has joined #postfix[12:30:01] *** cpm_ has joined #postfix[12:30:25] *** mark-use has joined #postfix[12:33:06] *** cpm_ has quit IRC[12:33:32] *** cpm_ has joined #postfix[12:34:33] *** Edward123 has joined #postfix[12:35:44] *** cpm_ has quit IRC[12:36:17] *** cpm has joined #postfix[13:05:47] *** ramoni has quit IRC[13:06:07] *** asmas has quit IRC[13:11:06] *** tarik has quit IRC[13:14:41] *** UQlev has quit IRC[13:28:06] *** dps has joined #postfix[13:37:55] *** bhagat has quit IRC[13:42:46] *** prebur has quit IRC[13:44:46] *** meandtheshell has joined #postfix[13:45:23] *** rob0_ has quit IRC[13:45:57] *** Sweeper_ is now known as Sweeper[13:51:36] *** bernardo_ has joined #postfix[13:52:29] *** kk_CHN has quit IRC[14:00:03] *** bernardo_ has quit IRC[14:10:50] *** ming_zym has left #postfix[14:15:02] *** havvg has joined #postfix[14:35:48] *** marc7 has quit IRC[14:36:15] *** marc7 has joined #postfix[14:37:40] *** ctx144k has joined #postfix[14:41:09] *** prebur has joined #postfix[14:57:54] *** netcrash has joined #postfix[15:01:18] *** rikur has quit IRC[15:04:17] *** f3ew has quit IRC[15:14:43] *** hal1on has quit IRC[15:14:43] *** Bejgli has quit IRC[15:14:43] *** ruza has quit IRC[15:21:16] *** Bejgli has joined #postfix[15:22:24] *** hal1on has joined #postfix[15:24:42] *** aozturk has quit IRC[15:25:00] *** aozturk has joined #postfix[15:26:01] *** ruza has joined #postfix[15:34:20] *** aozturk has quit IRC[15:34:45] *** aozturk has joined #postfix[15:42:51] *** rikur has joined #postfix[15:45:20] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[15:50:40] *** Lap_64 has quit IRC[15:53:10] *** marc7 has quit IRC[15:54:25] *** phnord has joined #postfix[15:57:05] *** ctx144k has quit IRC[15:58:40] *** decoder has joined #postfix[15:58:43] <decoder> hi all[15:59:52] <decoder> I'm having a problem with bouncing mails.. I am using the relocated_maps parameter to automatically bounce mail for some local users (Taken from ldap)[15:59:53] *** prh has left #postfix[15:59:56] <decoder> that works[16:00:13] <decoder> however, someone tried to send a mail to user at some dot other.domain where user was in the ldap auto bounce[16:00:28] <decoder> and our server refused to send the mail[16:00:51] <decoder> although some.other.domain is not local[16:00:58] <decoder> I would like to limit the bouncing to mails that would be delivered locally[16:02:18] *** Lap_64 has joined #postfix[16:03:19] *** rphillips has left #postfix[16:06:12] *** arin has joined #postfix[16:07:17] <arin> Signum: Helo[16:08:03] *** Predom[Work] has joined #postfix[16:08:59] <Signum> arin: hi[16:09:07] <arin> I am having problem with postfix + TLS[16:09:30] <arin> Signum: I have followed your guide to set up a mail server[16:09:52] <arin> Signum : And it is working fine barring one exception[16:10:20] <arin> Signum: My mailserver is 192.168.2.10[16:10:39] <arin> Signum : and clients are on 192.168.1.0/24[16:11:00] *** rob0_ has joined #postfix[16:11:19] <arin> If I initiate a smtp connection from the server itself it provides a STARTTLS[16:11:19] *** elesouef has joined #postfix[16:11:26] <elesouef> Hi there.[16:11:38] *** oates|AFK has quit IRC[16:12:08] <arin> Signum: but if I initiate a connection from the clients ..it doesn't initiate a starttls[16:13:03] <elesouef> Signum: Hello, I just wanted to know if it was possible, using your howto, to use sort of .forward stored in mysql ?[16:13:43] <Signum> elesouef: sure, that's what the virtual_aliases are all about[16:14:19] <arin> Signum: The mailserver and the clients are connected through a gateway[16:14:21] <Signum> arin: if you say "telnet 192.168.2.10 25" and say "helo foo.com" then you should see STARTTLS[16:14:59] <arin> Signum: I am seeing that if I initiate the connection from the mailserver itself[16:15:23] <arin> Signum : But if I do the same from any client I am not seeing that[16:15:35] <Signum> arin: did you send the EHLO?[16:15:58] <arin> Signum : yes "EHLO my.domain.com"[16:16:24] <Signum> arin: Strange. I wouldn't know what keeps postfix from announcing STARTTLS in some cases.[16:16:31] <arin> Signum: Apart from 25 any other port required to be open?[16:16:48] *** felix_da_catz has joined #postfix[16:16:48] <Signum> arin: no[16:17:00] *** dwxreaper has joined #postfix[16:17:03] <dwxreaper> where is the postfix log file[16:17:21] <elesouef> dwxreaper: depends on your linux/unix distro[16:17:30] <dwxreaper> elesouef: on ubuntu[16:17:39] <Signum> dwxreaper: /var/log/mail.log[16:17:46] <Signum> dwxreaper: (unless you borked the syslog daemon)[16:17:51] <elesouef> dwxreaper: /var/log/mail.log[16:18:01] <dwxreaper> i tried /var/log/mail.log but nothing was in it. i do have a syslog server[16:18:02] <arin> Signum : In fact from clients the communication starts with "smtp.passthrough"[16:18:16] <Signum> arin: uhm, what's that? :)[16:18:31] <arin> Signum: I do not know[16:18:40] <Signum> dwxreaper: you haven't deleted that file manually, have you?[16:18:41] <dwxreaper> but syslog is working[16:19:03] <arin> Signum : The client network is defined in mynetworks and is allowed in main.cf[16:19:12] <felix_da_catz> dwxreaper: Did you look in the /var/log/messages file? Or whatever the equivalent to that is on Ubuntu?[16:19:13] <dwxreaper> signum: no the file mail.log was there, I think I am moving syslog messages from the system to a different file[16:19:26] <dwxreaper> anyway i can tell postfix to log to mail.log not to syslog just to the file[16:20:01] <Signum> dwxreaper: no. postfix uses the syslog as god intended it. restart the syslog daemon. moving files away that syslog has open is not a good idea.[16:20:15] <felix_da_catz> dwxreaper: You can check in your /etc/syslog.conf file to find out. You could even change the file to log all syslog messages from mail.* to something different to see if you log there instead.[16:20:18] <Signum> arin: same here. no matter whether I'm within $mynetworks or not... I always get STARTTLS[16:20:57] <felix_da_catz> dwxreaper: Signum is right. If you have moved or removed the mail.log file you need to restart syslog.[16:22:17] <dwxreaper> i didn't touch mail.log, syslog is working okay, but it's taking syslog messages sent from the system[16:22:30] <dwxreaper> and putting them in a folder based on the date, nothing is there for postfix[16:22:38] <arin> Signum : It is quite strange may be because the mailserver is in DMZ I require to put a DMZ pinhole in the gateway[16:23:18] <arin> Signum : But it is working if I do not force TLS[16:23:39] <arin> Signum: If I force TLS I get a relay denied from the clients[16:24:13] <Signum> arin: Yes, I witnessed that, too. If you enforce TLS then all other relaying attempts will be rejected.[16:24:53] *** Predominant has quit IRC[16:25:19] <arin> Signum: Now the problem is since there is no starttls for the clients they can not authenticate to the server[16:25:35] <arin> Signum: And hence can not send mail at all[16:25:53] <arin> Signum : Retrieving is working fine with TLS[16:26:05] <arin> Signum : from the clients[16:26:08] <Signum> arin: I see the problem. Now tell me the solution. :)[16:26:24] <arin> Signum: I do not have one[16:26:37] <arin> Signum: I am just trying to figure out[16:28:06] <dwxreaper> ah this servers time is messed[16:28:16] <dwxreaper> and it puts the syslog messages in a folder based on date[16:35:39] *** Lap_64 has quit IRC[16:38:44] *** rati has quit IRC[16:38:53] *** alys has joined #postfix[16:39:05] *** tolecnal_ has joined #postfix[16:41:49] <elesouef> Signum: forgot my question, I forgot to tell postfix that virtual_alias_maps existed...[16:41:58] <elesouef> Thanks :)[16:42:55] *** alys has quit IRC[16:43:21] *** Moofius has joined #postfix[16:43:28] <Moofius> I get "/etc/mail/aliases: line 20: @xtrm.se... cannot alias non-local names"[16:43:49] *** Predominant has joined #postfix[16:44:56] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[16:45:21] *** unixcoder has joined #postfix[16:47:19] *** pitakill has quit IRC[16:47:57] *** prebur has quit IRC[16:48:13] *** Moofius has left #postfix[16:48:22] *** Jax has joined #postfix[16:53:54] <arin> Signum: I found the solution[16:54:07] <arin> Signum : rather I found the problem[16:55:58] *** tolecnal has quit IRC[16:55:59] *** tolecnal_ is now known as tolecnal[16:57:26] <felix_da_catz> arin: I am interested as well because we have the same issue.[16:58:26] <dwxreaper> i can send mail manually, but postfix isn't working, i use mailx to send mail, and i know the script is good[16:58:48] <dwxreaper> I think it has something to do with the address i'm sending from, can i set that statically, mailx is not specifiying a from email[16:59:07] <dwxreaper> like myorigin = who at from dot com[16:59:15] *** capt-rogers has joined #postfix[16:59:33] <rob0> Why do so many people use mailx, as if it should be easier than some other MUA? It's not.[16:59:51] *** Predom[Work] has quit IRC[16:59:54] <rob0> Why not just test using your regular (non-Microsoft) MUA?[16:59:59] <dwxreaper> mailx is working, something is wrong with this postfix configuration file[17:00:11] *** harpal has quit IRC[17:00:25] <rob0> !myorigin[17:00:26] <knoba> rob0: "myorigin" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The default domain name that locally-posted mail appears to come from, and that locally posted mail is delivered to. The default $myhostname, which is fine for small sites. If you run a domain with multiple machines, you should (1) change this to $mydomain and (2) set up a domain-wide alias database that aliases each user to user at that dot users.mailhost.[17:02:00] <dwxreaper> okay so $mydomain will put the user before the @?[17:02:13] *** rootsvr has joined #postfix[17:03:04] *** Blazeix has left #postfix[17:03:21] *** Jax has quit IRC[17:03:24] <dwxreaper> i can send mail manually, i know that's working, i wish i could see the log files so i know what postfix is doing[17:03:37] <dwxreaper> i don't want syslog, i just want to say log to this file[17:04:17] <felix_da_catz> Thats what syslog does though. Did you set your time correctly on the system?[17:04:50] <dwxreaper> I don't wanna mess with syslog, because i told it to take local messages, and put them in /var/log/test.log[17:05:04] <dwxreaper> and it is logging only messages from the syslog daemon to that file[17:05:19] *** clusterer has joined #postfix[17:06:21] <dwxreaper> before I added that, I had seen the mail logs in a folder from the previous day[17:06:37] <dwxreaper> because the time is a day back[17:07:33] <felix_da_catz> I am confused as to why they are logging to different folders to begin with, but I am sure it serves its purpose.[17:08:27] <dwxreaper> i setup a syslog-ng, it's a syslog server not just local[17:08:47] <felix_da_catz> Ahh.[17:09:01] <felix_da_catz> Well, you can log locally as welll as remotely on a machine. I do that on my production web server.[17:09:46] <dwxreaper> yeah it was doing that, not sure why it won't know, i restarted the service, it likes the config[17:10:13] <felix_da_catz> humm. That is pretty weird. YOu don't have any disk space issues or anything do you?[17:10:13] <dwxreaper> it's like two lines, it should match every log statement to. maybe it's just not getting messages[17:10:31] <felix_da_catz> Well, if you stop and start postfix you should get something in there.[17:10:44] <arin> felix_da_catz: I am using ipcop in my gateway with copfilter[17:10:51] <dwxreaper> i'm sure i did something, because i had to reinstall postfix[17:11:08] <arin> felix_da_catz: which uses proxsmtp to filter all smtp traffic[17:11:17] <dwxreaper> felix: yeah nothing like that, if I disable syslog-ng[17:11:26] <dwxreaper> will a local daemon take over[17:11:33] <dwxreaper> so it goes to /var/log/mail.log[17:11:40] <arin> felix_da_catz: Unfortunately proxsmtp can not handle TLS[17:12:28] <felix_da_catz> arin: Oh, well I am definitely not doing that. :-) Thats too bad though. Trying to make something secure and you end up having to make it insecure.[17:13:15] <felix_da_catz> swxreaper: No, not unless you have another syslog daemon setup already and just need to turn it on.[17:13:27] <arin> felix_da_catz: Anyway I can still scan all inbound traffic with proxsmtp so not a big problem[17:14:04] <dwxreaper> damit, i just wish i could say log to a file, that's pretty easy, allow postfix to log to a file[17:14:14] <arin> felix_da_catz: Additionally I am forcing to use TLS so relay from all other networks will be denied automatically[17:14:19] <dwxreaper> i don't feel like messing with syslog to get a log file[17:14:41] <felix_da_catz> dwxreaper: well, it is really easy. Just add a line in there that basically goes like this.[17:14:48] <felix_da_catz> mail.* <tab> /var/log/maillog[17:14:58] *** Ryushin has joined #postfix[17:16:00] <rob0> Fix the syslog before you ask questions which can only be answered there.[17:16:39] *** Lucky7 has joined #postfix[17:17:10] <felix_da_catz> Does anyone know of any diagrams or something that can make it a little easier to figure out where each component of a spam solution sit in relation to Postfix? There are so many options and I am confusing myself on which ones I want to take to get a nice spam solution in place.[17:17:52] <dwxreaper> felix: different syslog server[17:18:06] <felix_da_catz> No, do that on the machine where you mail is sitting.[17:18:13] <felix_da_catz> syslog is setup on both machines.[17:18:39] <felix_da_catz> The syslog on the mail machine is just setup to forward the syslog messages to the remote server.[17:18:48] <dwxreaper> i have a server, it reads log files and sends mail, and is also a syslog server. this was working, but i made some changes , messed it up[17:19:06] <dwxreaper> the server only talks sends mail, not recieve, to relay.activehost.com. i have went through the configuration[17:19:14] *** Chris-NB has quit IRC[17:19:18] <dwxreaper> but i don't know postfix, so it's hard for me to figure out what is going on without looking at the log[17:19:27] <dwxreaper> if i post the configuration, will you maybe know quickly what is going on[17:19:48] <dwxreaper> only sends mail^[17:19:51] *** mark-use has quit IRC[17:20:13] <felix_da_catz> Well, I know much more about syslog than postfix. So it would be easier for me to help you fix that. :-) Sorry. I am fairly new at postfix myself.[17:20:53] *** duki has quit IRC[17:20:54] <dwxreaper> hmm, well take a shot[17:21:04] <dwxreaper> why wouldn't this work, if i can send mail manually, and i know mailx works[17:21:05] <dwxreaper> http://pastebin.ca/799372[17:21:32] <dwxreaper> i want to send mail to relay.x.com[17:21:48] <dwxreaper> to domain x.com, from a source address of root at x dot com[17:21:54] <dwxreaper> that's all i wanan do ![17:22:27] *** jellis has joined #postfix[17:22:49] <Lucky7> anyone here using postfix + dovecot 0.99?[17:23:10] <Lucky7> i've found a ton of how-tos for this setup, but their all using the older version of dovecot,[17:23:21] <Lucky7> the new version changes where its deliver binary is / how it works[17:23:32] <Lucky7> and /usr/libexec/dovecot/deliver no longer works in master.cf[17:23:54] *** arin has quit IRC[17:24:03] <dwxreaper> where do I tell postfix what domain to use[17:24:12] <dwxreaper> i say $mydomain , but how does it know what domain[17:27:23] *** sinthetek has quit IRC[17:27:36] *** decoder has quit IRC[17:32:43] <rob0> dwxreaper: You are not reading. I did *NOT* say mydomain.[17:34:25] *** phnord has quit IRC[17:35:16] *** solar_ant has quit IRC[17:35:20] *** cutmasta has quit IRC[17:36:10] *** solar_ant has joined #postfix[17:41:24] <rob0> Last try. Postfix has no way to read your mind and decide what you want as $mydomain. So if you want $myorigin to be example.com, SET IT. "myorigin = example.com".[17:42:28] *** j_s has joined #postfix[17:42:32] *** elesouef has left #postfix[17:43:26] <dwxreaper> rob: ah, was wondering how it figured that out[17:45:46] <dwxreaper> well something is still wrong with the postfix config, it's not sending a packet[17:46:25] <rob0> Then you simply must fix the syslog.[17:46:32] <dwxreaper> i change my domain to x at domain dot com and restarted postfix[17:46:53] <dwxreaper> or myorigin to x at domain dot com[17:47:06] <felix_da_catz> hopefully you didn't put the x@ in front of it.[17:47:17] <dwxreaper> felix: yeah put the x[17:47:34] <felix_da_catz> why?[17:47:56] <dwxreaper> didn't know it filled in the username[17:48:06] <felix_da_catz> yes, just the domain name literally by it self.[17:48:31] <felix_da_catz> myorigin = x.com[17:48:40] <felix_da_catz> $myorigin= x.com[17:48:41] *** vali has joined #postfix[17:50:59] <dwxreaper> hmm, did that, still not working, i can send mail manually[17:51:11] <dwxreaper> i know the script using mailx is good[17:51:18] *** duki has joined #postfix[17:52:06] <dwxreaper> shouldn't this be yes:[17:52:07] <dwxreaper> # appending .domain is the MUA's job.[17:52:07] <dwxreaper> append_dot_mydomain = no[17:52:23] <dwxreaper> the script sends email to myuser at domain dot com[17:52:48] <codestr0m> Anyone in here have any experience archiveopteryx.. I've been trying to compare different implementations of storing the email in a db and indexing..[17:53:34] <rob0> That's it, /ignore. Someone, let me know if dwxreaper ever posts a pastebin URL with logs.[17:53:48] <dwxreaper> rob go fix your faggot mail servers[17:53:57] <dwxreaper> your not much help either[17:54:21] <dwxreaper> fucking losers, seriously, get a life you fucking dork[17:54:56] *** Ryushin has quit IRC[17:55:39] <e_> hehehe[17:55:54] *** Ryushin has joined #postfix[17:58:51] *** rootsvr has quit IRC[18:02:52] *** harobed has quit IRC[18:06:31] *** unixcoder has quit IRC[18:10:10] *** sepski has joined #postfix[18:24:13] *** tarik has joined #postfix[18:31:32] *** vali has quit IRC[18:36:29] *** adam33 has joined #postfix[18:38:13] *** havvg has quit IRC[18:45:03] *** adam33 has quit IRC[18:47:08] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[18:48:24] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[18:51:16] *** Pazzo has quit IRC[18:54:18] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[18:55:51] *** Ryushin has quit IRC[18:55:56] *** duki has quit IRC[18:57:28] *** Ryushin has joined #postfix[18:58:30] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[19:01:24] *** duki has joined #postfix[19:03:55] *** duki has quit IRC[19:04:53] *** lunaphyte_ has quit IRC[19:05:44] *** duki has joined #postfix[19:07:31] *** dps has quit IRC[19:07:54] *** duki has quit IRC[19:09:08] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[19:12:30] *** brancaleone has quit IRC[19:13:06] *** lucas2 has joined #postfix[19:18:19] *** havvg has joined #postfix[19:18:41] *** arin has joined #postfix[19:19:05] <arin> Signum: Hello again[19:19:41] *** lunaphyte_ has joined #postfix[19:25:46] *** duki has joined #postfix[19:32:23] *** bisho has joined #postfix[19:32:28] <bisho> Hi![19:32:48] <bisho> There is any way of limiting the rate of connections?[19:33:05] <bisho> I'm reaching the hotmail limit of connections[19:33:58] <bisho> And I'm unsure about limiting the smtp_destination_concurrency_limit[19:36:02] *** solar_ant has quit IRC[19:38:16] *** rootsvr has joined #postfix[19:41:58] *** rob0_ has quit IRC[19:42:19] <the1d> bisho: you could create a custom hostmail-transport where you set a lower number smtp_destination_concurrency_limit for just that transport and specify a maxproc-setting for that transport in master.cf[19:42:28] <the1d> that's easily done[19:46:19] *** amrit|zzz is now known as amrit|wrk[19:50:33] *** rob0_ has joined #postfix[19:51:56] *** githogori has joined #postfix[19:52:03] *** codestr0m has left #postfix[19:52:34] *** rootsvr has quit IRC[19:56:21] *** tarik has quit IRC[19:58:21] *** ryushin1 has joined #postfix[19:59:34] *** ryushin1 has left #postfix[20:00:07] *** ejovrh has quit IRC[20:00:10] *** ejovrh has joined #postfix[20:03:10] *** Ryushin has quit IRC[20:08:41] *** growltiger has joined #postfix[20:17:22] *** unixcoder has joined #postfix[20:20:38] *** sepski has quit IRC[20:21:38] *** Zeit|awy has quit IRC[20:23:01] *** duki has quit IRC[20:25:07] *** hemry has joined #postfix[20:26:20] *** bisho has quit IRC[20:43:47] *** arin has quit IRC[21:02:26] *** UQlev has quit IRC[21:04:25] *** dogmeat has quit IRC[21:16:48] *** dogmeat has joined #postfix[21:25:40] *** dogmeat has quit IRC[21:28:37] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[21:32:16] *** daMaestro has joined #postfix[21:33:13] <daMaestro> can we add mailman lists (pipes) to a virtual domain alias mapping?[21:34:04] *** havvg has quit IRC[21:36:48] *** dogmeat has joined #postfix[21:37:07] <Signum> daMaestro: not directly. pipes can't be called from virtual aliases. you need to forward them to a local domain or use a mailman transport[21:37:39] <daMaestro> ah, ok[21:37:48] <Signum> daMaestro: the official reason is that virtual users do not have UIDs/GIDs and therefore have no clear permissions on the shell. I have a different opinion on that but I'm not Wietse. :)[21:38:01] <daMaestro> ;-)[21:38:18] <daMaestro> thanks for the good info, we are trying to hack in our mailman lists to our new zimbra install[21:38:36] <daMaestro> i really hate it, but it makes my sysadmin tasks stupid easy because others can manage it[21:38:42] *** unixcoder has quit IRC[21:39:38] <Signum> daMaestro: could be worse. I'm forced to work with M$ lovers who are in charge of the mail servers.[21:40:15] <daMaestro> yark.. sorry.[21:40:16] <daMaestro> lol[21:40:34] <daMaestro> i'm all for postfix + amavisd (+ plugins)[21:40:44] <Signum> dito[21:41:14] <Signum> They are complaining about open-source for so long they could have learned to rewrite Postfix during the same time period.[21:41:46] <Signum> must... not... kill... coworkers...[21:42:16] <cpm> do it![21:42:20] <daMaestro> well.. it's more some people *need* to have the "upstream" blame[21:42:37] <daMaestro> aka.. oh.. it doesn't work that's [insert company here]'s fault[21:42:54] <daMaestro> i'll call them; *end of boss chewing you out because things are broken*[21:42:59] * cpm blames daMaestro[21:43:06] * daMaestro dances[21:43:27] * Signum blames greenhouse gases[21:43:37] * daMaestro blames lazy it[21:43:57] * Signum blames users and customers (admin's life would be way better without them)[21:44:19] <daMaestro> lol[21:45:23] *** luke-jr has left #postfix[21:45:30] <cpm> systems don't need users, , , ,users otoh, , ,[21:52:52] *** Predom[Work] has joined #postfix[21:54:39] *** cpm has quit IRC[21:58:13] *** Zeit|awy has joined #postfix[21:58:41] *** Zerberus has joined #postfix[22:00:28] *** marc7 has joined #postfix[22:05:48] <dwxreaper> can someone give me a simple way to log with ubuntu and postfix[22:05:58] <dwxreaper> i am able to log everything else fine, postfix has been the only thing giving me problems[22:06:02] <dwxreaper> i just want logging to a file[22:06:05] *** Zeit|awy has quit IRC[22:07:41] <dwxreaper> i think you have to create the log file ahead of time, this is just turning out to be so much trouble[22:08:09] *** Predominant has quit IRC[22:09:16] <Signum> dwxreaper: what's the problem? postfix logs to syslog. tell syslog what you want[22:11:51] <dwxreaper> yup, i'm trying to tell syslog-ng what to do, it's logging every single application, and network syslog message but postfix[22:12:35] <dwxreaper> there are lots of fixes on the net, but it seems different per os[22:13:18] <Signum> dwxreaper: just handle the "mail.*" facility and you are fine.[22:13:32] *** marc7 has quit IRC[22:14:44] <dwxreaper> syslog-ng does not care about the facility, unless you tell it, it's logging any value for facility[22:14:48] <dwxreaper> postfix still has problems[22:19:43] <dwxreaper> is postfix sending it's messages to /dev/log[22:23:37] *** pitakill_ has joined #postfix[22:26:33] *** madduck has quit IRC[22:27:34] *** pirho has joined #postfix[22:31:22] *** w0rd54 has quit IRC[22:34:23] *** diveli has joined #postfix[22:36:24] *** w0rd54 has joined #postfix[22:36:57] <dwxreaper> I don't have this directory ("/var/spool/postfix/dev/log"[22:37:14] <dwxreaper> on ubuntu, is that ok, because if that's where postfix is sending the messages, it's not gonna work[22:37:21] <Signum> I'd be surprised if you had.[22:37:48] <dwxreaper> well what is wrong with this thing, there are like 10 applications logging, and network devices, no problems[22:37:49] <the1d> there shouldn't be a dev/log dir in /var/spool/postfix[22:37:51] <dwxreaper> only postfix isn't working[22:38:14] <Signum> I'm pretty sure that postfix is working but your syslog daemon is misconfigured.[22:38:22] <dwxreaper> maybe my postfix is messed up, but i did: apt-get remove --purge postfix, apt-get install postfix[22:38:26] <the1d> on RHEL it's logging to /var/log/maillog through syslog's mail.*[22:38:48] <the1d> on FreeBSD it's the exact same path[22:38:57] <the1d> it must be your syslog-ng[22:39:04] <dwxreaper> signum: i'm reading everything from /dev/log i dont' care what the facility is. event, whatever, no filters[22:39:16] <Signum> dwxreaper: use the standard sysklogd and you'll see that it logs[22:39:19] <dwxreaper> i think it is the syslog-ng to but i dont' know what to add to the config[22:39:22] <the1d> /dev/log is not a normal logfile[22:39:25] *** capt-rogers has quit IRC[22:39:36] <Signum> /dev/log is where syslog-ng reads the syslogging data from. that's okay so far.[22:39:38] <dwxreaper> yeah, but syslog-ng can read the /dev/log socket[22:39:50] <the1d> so?[22:39:58] <the1d> postfix is NOT logging to there[22:40:01] <dwxreaper> the1d: that's where it gets the syslog message[22:40:08] <dwxreaper> where's it logging to[22:40:22] <Signum> dwxreaper: by default the syslog-ng sends mail.* to /var/log/mail.log afaik[22:40:49] <Signum> dwxreaper: "filter f_mail { facility(mail); };" -> "destination mail { file("/var/log/mail.log" owner("root")..."[22:40:58] *** pirho_ has joined #postfix[22:41:07] <dwxreaper> signum: i dont' think that's in the default config[22:41:24] <Signum> dwxreaper: I'm pretty sure it is because I didn't add it. :) Using syslog-ng 2.0.0 on debian etch.[22:41:43] <dwxreaper> the1d: i don't think postfix just writes entries to a /var/log/mail.log file, it sends it to the syslog daemon via a socket , /dev/log[22:41:48] *** pirho_ has quit IRC[22:42:19] <dwxreaper> well i could type that in, to troubleshoot, but i dont' know the source[22:42:24] <dwxreaper> source == /dev/log?[22:42:53] <dwxreaper> with syslog ng, log statements actually create logs. log, source>filter>destination[22:42:56] <Signum> source src { unix-dgram("/dev/log"); internal(); udp(); };[22:43:50] <dwxreaper> hmm, mine looks like this unix-stream ("/dev/log");[22:44:05] <dwxreaper> but it's working for everything else[22:44:50] <dwxreaper> this shit's driving me batty[22:44:56] <dwxreaper> i quit, new mail server, not that postfix is bad[22:45:01] <dwxreaper> thanks for the help[22:45:22] <Signum> Good luck with M$ Exchange[22:45:25] <the1d> heh[22:45:33] <the1d> blame the MX.. right way to go[22:45:55] <the1d> postfix is logging directly to the syslog daemon - not through a socket[22:45:55] <dwxreaper> i don't like the logging, everything else is working, not something i wanna have to deal with[22:46:30] <Signum> Bad Postfix. Why is it using the uncommon, non-standard and evil syslog way. ;)[22:46:31] <dwxreaper> that makes no sense[22:46:47] <dwxreaper> you mean postfix is sending it to the tcp socket the daemon listens on, even though it's on the local box[22:47:11] <Signum> dwxreaper: Did you try my "source" line?[22:47:13] <dwxreaper> it will send the messages to /dev/log, or /var/spool/postfix/dev/log, if it's in a jail[22:47:35] <dwxreaper> signum: let me try[22:49:18] <the1d> filter f_mail { facility(mail); };[22:49:19] <the1d> destination d_mail { file("/var/log/postfix"); };[22:49:19] <the1d> log { source(src); filter(f_mail); destination(d_mail); };[22:49:41] <the1d> 4th hit on google when googling for "postfix log syslog-ng"[22:49:41] *** pirho_ has joined #postfix[22:49:51] <Signum> 1st hit on Signum[22:50:00] <dwxreaper> that's wonderfull the1d, except it doesn't show the source, (which is the problem)[22:50:22] <the1d> it hooks into the mail-facility, which should do it[22:50:56] <dwxreaper> no, syslog-ng reads src, src needs to say what to push through the filter, to that directory[22:51:04] <dwxreaper> it is a filter on the facility, which is part of the syslog message itself[22:51:15] <dwxreaper> something is wrong here, but you are not helping[22:51:20] <dwxreaper> so don't be stupid[22:51:36] <Signum> dwxreaper: he's helping a lot actually.[22:51:51] <felix_da_catz> Gotta love /ignore[22:52:01] <the1d> well, then fix your syslog-ng yourself and stop bugging us when you don't know how to RTFM[22:52:12] *** pirho_ has quit IRC[22:52:13] <Signum> dwxreaper: you are demanding but don't listen to people. we have told you a possible solution twice and you haven't even tried it.[22:52:14] <dwxreaper> i'll just install another mail server[22:52:18] *** dwxreaper has left #postfix[22:52:21] <Signum> pisshead[22:52:32] <felix_da_catz> No shit. He has been a pita all day long really.[22:52:33] *** pirho has quit IRC[22:52:47] <the1d> (sorry about that.. I just can't see what why he kept mumbling about some /dev/log all the time)[22:52:54] <tolecnal> they meet the brick wall once, and never bother to try to climb over it[22:53:18] <Signum> he's too dumb to configure a syslog daemon but blames postfix.[22:53:19] <the1d> felix_da_catz: ah, yeah.. could see that in the backlog.. :/[22:53:33] <felix_da_catz> I guess if he can't configure syslog then he has no business trying postfix.[22:53:44] <the1d> oh well.. if that's enough to filter some ppl out, I'm fine with that..[22:54:01] <Signum> phew... nice backlog[22:54:06] <felix_da_catz> rob0 /ignored him about four hours ago I think.[22:54:12] *** hparker has joined #postfix[22:55:35] <the1d> after skimming the backlog it seemed very wise[22:55:39] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Signum[22:56:03] <the1d> oh well.. and I'm just a newbie in here anyway, so I'll just shut up and go sit in a corner now again.. :)[22:57:12] <felix_da_catz> :-) no biggie. It is good that you have the desire to try to help, but it seems everyone learns the hardway when it comes to helping. You start and then people just expect you to do their work for them.[22:57:22] *** pirho has joined #postfix[22:57:37] <felix_da_catz> Are all of the mail ports TCP? I am trying to configure iptables.[22:57:40] *** Signum sets mode: +b *!*dwxreaper@*[22:57:53] <the1d> hehe.. :)[22:57:54] *** Signum sets mode: +b *!*@69.44.150.73[22:57:56] *** Signum sets mode: -o Signum[22:57:59] <adaptr> the craft is in being able to carefully nudge them back on tack each time[22:58:04] <felix_da_catz> That is one way to take care of the problem.[22:58:04] <Signum> Don't mess with me when I'm just back from the dentist...[22:58:07] <adaptr> *track[22:58:07] <tolecnal> felix_da_catz: give them a finger, and they'll take the whole hand[22:58:19] <felix_da_catz> adaptr: That is a true gift I believe.[22:58:26] <adaptr> I'll give them a finger![22:58:35] * Signum bites[22:58:43] <felix_da_catz> Grr[22:58:46] <adaptr> tolecnal oh I didn't say there wouldn't be casualties :)[22:58:52] <adaptr> felix_da_catz , even[22:59:02] <adaptr> but they won't be on my side...[22:59:03] <tolecnal> ;)[22:59:41] <Signum> ...where's the 16 ton weight if you need it[23:00:09] <tolecnal> Signum: you gotta ask Benny Hill for that, but unfortunately he's dead[23:01:01] <felix_da_catz> tolecnal: I read somewhere that the old man that he used to slap around all the time's daughters or something are making a big to-do about him being an abuser of old people and women. Pretty funny.[23:01:37] <tolecnal> yeah, I read that too.. but if you ask me, that's a load of utter and complete bollocks[23:01:40] <the1d> oh well.. I guess he's not really as bad as some of our customers - they're complaining about "the page cannot be found"-errors when some of their personel in Japan tries to use a system located in Denmark.. all I could answer was "there's a whole lot of network between Japan and Denmark, and I can't control more than 5 feet of it.."[23:03:31] <the1d> but they can use it - just after going through 3-4-5 pages something happens and their local machine can't find the server anymore.. quite interesting, but there's nothing I can do about it[23:03:45] <tolecnal> the1d: I usually just say; "Police are examining all internet packets in the search for a narco-net-trafficker, and there's quite a few of them as well as the fact that the tubes are clogged by YouTube and eBaum"[23:03:51] *** Orchestra has quit IRC[23:03:56] <the1d> hehe..[23:04:25] <the1d> well.. all traffic runs right across the US, so it must be Echelon and NSA eating up all the bits[23:04:50] <the1d> the system has ~2mill hits a day, so we'd notice if anything really was wrong..[23:05:03] *** hemry has quit IRC[23:05:04] <tolecnal> Echelon has a rather large appetite for bits I've heard[23:05:08] <the1d> yeah[23:05:24] *** jellis has quit IRC[23:05:41] <the1d> but hey.. Denmark, Germany, France, England-US-Japan.. there's a whoooole lot of places something could go wrong[23:06:13] <the1d> woops - those , should have been spaces..[23:06:24] <the1d> eh.. I mean -[23:07:10] *** unixipher has joined #postfix[23:09:43] <felix_da_catz> Totally amazing what happens when you open the right ports on a firewall.[23:10:09] <the1d> is that even possible?[23:11:35] <felix_da_catz> :-) Only for a select few.[23:12:42] <the1d> lucky bastards.. ;)[23:12:59] *** Orchestra has joined #postfix[23:15:28] *** marl has joined #postfix[23:16:30] *** prebur has joined #postfix[23:17:11] <felix_da_catz> So does DSPAM provide the same ability to integrate with third party apps like virus scan and dkfilter etc?[23:17:23] <marl> hi, can anyone help me, i use a postfix server, and am gettng maii delivery delays, i am trying to fnd out how often the mail queue id flushed, can anyone tell me how postfix determines when to run the queue flush ?[23:21:50] <adaptr> you set it in the config[23:22:01] <Lucky7> Hm.[23:22:01] <adaptr> which probably means that you decide that[23:22:03] <the1d> !qshape[23:22:04] <knoba> the1d: Error: "qshape" is not a valid command.[23:22:17] <Lucky7> Anyone have a copy of the yaa! autoresponder, or recommend anything different? (http://frost.ath.cx is down)[23:22:19] <the1d> http://www.postfix.org/QSHAPE_README.html - perhaps this helps a bit..[23:22:59] <the1d> esp. under the "The "deferred" queue"-section[23:23:25] *** j_s has quit IRC[23:23:42] <adaptr> the1d what does that have to do with anything he asked ?[23:24:37] <the1d> adaptr: that section tells about what controls deliveries and how often the deferred queue is flushed (that's how I read his question)[23:26:00] <adaptr> but it is also the readme on a much more advanced topic - he could have done with just a[23:26:06] <adaptr> !queue_run_delay[23:26:07] <knoba> adaptr: "queue_run_delay" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The time between deferred queue scans by the queue manager.[23:26:11] <adaptr> :)[23:26:52] <the1d> yeah, but some backgound might help too, so.. ;)[23:26:53] <marl> thanks :)[23:27:24] <the1d> (and I couldn't remember that it was queue_run_delay, but I remember having read that article a long time ago)[23:27:28] <marl> the main.cf one may help short time and the qshape may help to determine the originating problem :)[23:27:33] <adaptr> postconf ftw :)[23:28:48] <the1d> yea[23:37:24] <marl> ok, now im lost! :( the queue is set to flush every 16 mins approx (1000s) but i can see an email that went into the queue at 13:39 Nov 26 13:39:46 mail1 postfix/qmgr[2024]: 5CD29EE0654: from=<name at domain dot com>, size=14224, nrcpt=3 (queue active) but doesnt leave the queue until : Nov 26 14:32:51 mail1 postfix/pipe[13794]: 5CD29EE0654: to=<recipient at domain dot com>, relay=mailprefilter, delay=3185, status=sent (domain.com), there dosnt apear to be anything happe[23:37:31] *** darkphader has quit IRC[23:38:42] <marl> this is an email that has been sent from a user insde the office to another user nt he same office, both using the same mail server for both smtp and pop/imap[23:39:04] *** ScarEye has joined #postfix[23:39:36] <ScarEye> hey guys. I deleted mail.log from /var/log how can I have the system regenerate that file ?[23:39:50] <ScarEye> P.S. I am new to linux and I don't even konw if I am in the right channel ?[23:40:10] <marl> restart the system logger proces[23:40:18] <marl> or posibly just restart postfix[23:40:29] <marl> wat distribution are u using?[23:40:35] <ScarEye> ubuntu 7.04[23:40:41] <ScarEye> server[23:41:20] <marl> try /etc/init.d/postfix restart[23:41:25] <ScarEye> k[23:41:43] <ScarEye> bash: cd: init.d/postfix: Not a directory[23:41:53] <ScarEye> oh[23:41:53] <marl> or to restart the logger : /etc/init.d/syslog restart[23:41:54] <ScarEye> doh[23:42:01] <marl> not cd[23:42:05] <marl> lol[23:42:06] <ScarEye> tea[23:42:11] <ScarEye> I kindda figured that out[23:42:12] <ScarEye> lol[23:42:15] <adaptr> ScarEye touch /var/log/mail.log[23:43:19] <marl> adaptr: does restarting postfix or syslog fix the prob as well? (just for future reverance!)[23:43:30] <ScarEye> no it didnt marl[23:43:49] <ScarEye> postfix restarted but didn't regenerate the file[23:43:59] <marl> ok, :([23:44:12] <adaptr> marl restarting postfix has absolutely no influence on it, other than that it will generate a minimal set of log lines for syslog to put in the new file[23:44:44] <ScarEye> adaptr: the file is there after the "touch" command. however, permission are for root. and every other file in that directory is root adm[23:45:02] <ScarEye> right now permission are for root and root[23:45:10] <ScarEye> won't that jack things up ?[23:45:28] <marl> ok, last time i deleted the log fle, i trashed the mail system at the same time, so had to re-install it anyway[23:46:35] *** daMaestro has quit IRC[23:47:01] <adaptr> ScarEye permissions on syslog logs should be root[23:47:56] <marl> anyone any idea on the 55 mnite queue time?[23:48:32] <Lucky7> So does anyone know?[23:48:39] <ScarEye> adaptr: okay cause right now by the default setup everything in /var/log is set as root adm[23:48:47] <Lucky7> I need a good autoresponder, preferably one that will respond the moment a email comes in[23:49:11] <adaptr> marl relay=mailprefilter[23:49:27] <Lucky7> also mysql drvien[23:49:28] <adaptr> i.e. it is NOT going to an external recipient[23:49:30] <Lucky7> from my research[23:49:49] <Lucky7> I've seen that my options are Virtual-Vacation, and Yaa! Autoreasponder[23:50:01] <Lucky7> what are your guys opinions?[23:54:22] *** jbAU has joined #postfix[23:54:45] <ScarEye> heres a dumb question does anyone know what I would do with chmod to get this -rw-r-----[23:54:53] <ScarEye> like chmod 0600 ?[23:55:04] *** unixipher has quit IRC[23:55:18] <adaptr> ScarEye count them from left to right: 400+200+40 = ?[23:56:05] <ScarEye> cool[23:56:10] <ScarEye> how did you do that[23:56:17] <ScarEye> got a website that can teach me that[23:57:11] <ScarEye> all hail adaptr[23:57:14] <ScarEye> lol[23:57:47] <adaptr> try googling for linux newbie ?[23:57:54] <adaptr> www.linuxnewbies.org is quite good :)[23:57:57] <ScarEye> damn u don't have to be mean[23:58:00] <ScarEye> LOL.. j/k[23:58:07] <ScarEye> okay will give that a shot[23:58:08] <ScarEye> thx[23:58:11] <adaptr> I am not mean, i am efficient[23:58:15] <ScarEye> tru tru[23:58:26] *** Lucky7 has quit IRC[23:59:21] <adaptr> oh it's justlinux,org, or linuxquestions.org, that have the stuff I meant