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[01:21:01] <bytejumper> hi all, how I Can setup postfix to have the same mailbox for user at domain dot com and user at domain dot net ?
[01:24:47] <adaptr> by receiving mail for both
[01:26:32] <bytejumper> sure, but how I can configure this when I have aprox 50 domains ?
[01:26:51] <bytejumper> Must I manually set an alias for every domain ?
[01:27:29] <adaptr> are they all local domains ?
[01:27:34] <adaptr> or are they virtual ?
[01:28:18] <bytejumper> they are all virtuals
[01:28:31] <bytejumper> in a mysql table
[01:30:56] <adaptr> then yes, you have to define each alias you want to collate to one mailbox
[01:31:03] <adaptr> obviously so, even
[01:32:24] <bytejumper> ok, thanks for the answer
[01:32:27] <bytejumper> bye
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[02:28:41] <tolecnal> i'm running postfix in a chroot, and I just installed postfixadmin. but when it tries to connect to mysql using localhost, it doesn't do it via tcp but rather using a socket. but since it's using the socket, it fails to connect. any pointers?
[02:31:02] <adaptr> put the socket inside the chroot
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[02:44:32] <shasta> or use tcp
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[07:35:39] <GuHHH>  warning: dict_nis_init: NIS domain name not set - NIS lookups disabled
[07:35:42] <GuHHH> what does it mean?
[07:40:59] <cthulfuego> Means you're attepting to sue NIS without having configure dit.
[07:44:15] <f3ew> GuHHH, that's from the default alias_maps
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[07:44:26] <f3ew> you can turn it off if you don't use NIS
[07:48:11] <GuHHH> f3ew: alright, thank you very much
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[12:00:45] <Burn> hello, somebody who knows how I move from a certain domein from the active queue?
[12:01:31] <f3ew> uh?
[12:01:38] <f3ew> move from?
[12:02:20] <Burn> f3ew: yes, I want to move mails from domain.com from the active queue
[12:02:35] <f3ew> you want to delete those?
[12:02:40] <Burn> not delete, move
[12:02:48] <f3ew> move where?
[12:03:16] <f3ew> you will need a shell script calling mailq | grep, and then something using postsuper
[12:04:18] <Burn> f3ew: what would you do if you have 9000 emails for 1 domain, nearly all containing spam?
[12:05:38] <Burn> and they are all in the active queue
[12:05:44] <lambda> hi
[12:06:10] <lambda> i have some trouble with postfix
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[12:07:06] <lambda> since 1 hour log tell: failed to open /var/mydomain/aliases/adherents_dtc
[12:07:26] <lambda> any clue for troubleshooting? please
[12:07:59] <Burn> lambda: is the disk full?
[12:08:10] <Burn> lambda: or the permissions changed / file corrupt?
[12:08:27] <f3ew> Burn for one domain?
[12:08:46] <Burn> f3ew: yes to one domain
[12:08:49] <f3ew> lambda did you run newaliases  or postmap?
[12:08:59] <lambda> no
[12:09:19] <f3ew> Burn, postsuper -h ALL perhaps, and then clean uot the queue manually
[12:09:24] <f3ew> If it's a small enough queue
[12:11:08] <Burn> f3ew: 9000 emails :\
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[12:12:55] <`nico> plop
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[12:16:11] <f3ew> Burn put them on hold, run your spam checking grep, feed file named to postsuper -d
[12:17:19] <Burn> f3ew: do you have a working example for that?
[12:18:35] <Burn> f3ew: I need to put the messages to domain.com on hold
[12:20:43] <f3ew> Burn, use the http://www.arschkrebs.de/postfix/scripts/pfqgrep.pl.gz to find your mail
[12:21:01] <f3ew> or use a custom transport, and then postsuper -r ALL
[12:21:04] <f3ew> !transport_maps
[12:21:05] <knoba> f3ew: "transport_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup tables with mappings from recipient address to (message delivery transport, next-hop destination). See transport(5) for details.
[12:22:11] <Burn> f3ew: I'm doing that already, it's a spamfilter I'm running
[12:22:37] <Burn> f3ew: I just want to put those mails to 1 domain aside
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[12:24:39] <f3ew> or use a custom transport, and then postsuper -r ALL <===
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[13:25:58] <Burn> f3ew: found a script which deletes all the mails to a certain domein
[13:26:03] <Burn> in fact I should move them
[13:26:21] <Burn> weird that there aren't scripts for those functionality
[13:31:32] <f3ew> Burn, create them?
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[13:40:25] <dps> Have a situation here, I need to send e-mails and Postfix needs to ignore the first 5 words of an e-mail address is this possible with Postfix?
[13:40:26] <dps> Like send something  to postcode,user at domain dot com and Postfix ignores the " postcode,"
[13:40:26] <dps> Anyone as a clue?
[13:40:28] <f3ew> use a regexp?
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[13:41:00] <dps> hmmm, ok will google it
[13:41:05] <dps> ty for the tip
[13:41:14] <dps> im switching sendmail to postfix
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[14:08:11] <Kalavera> hello there
[14:09:34] <dps> Ok, can anyone give me a few light on regexp and ignoring some parts of the From: field on the headeR?
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[14:37:10] <Burn> f3ew: idd, I should
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[14:42:02] <ruza> hi guys
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[14:42:51] <ruza> any experience with smtp_connection_cache_destinations and relaying for internal MS Exchange?
[14:43:26] <ruza> are there any performance pros for this scenario?
[14:43:37] <ruza> does exchange handle it well?
[14:44:42] <f3ew> ruza, dunno
[14:45:18] * f3ew doesn't do Exchange
[14:45:20] <codestr0m> ok. noobie stupid question. Is there an easy way to have maildrop pass the file name of each file it writes to another daemon.. or would that to be an additional recipient on the command line... also. I'm not sure how to catch the delete file event..  anyone able to point me in the right direction
[14:45:45] <f3ew> codestr0m, perhaps you want to use [id]notify?
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[14:49:53] <cpm> or have a script that tails your maildrop log and hands off.
[14:50:18] * cpm logs maildrop independently
[14:54:06] <codestr0m> cpm: ok. how would I handle the file delete event though.  (that's not in maildrop log as well is it?)
[14:54:24] <codestr0m> that would be courier which is on top.. (pop3 or imap) I assume
[14:54:44] <cpm> codestr0m, what file delete event would that be?
[14:54:51] * cpm doesn't delete email
[14:55:08] <f3ew> codestr0m, perhaps you want to use [id]notify? <==== pssst
[14:55:22] <codestr0m> cpm: well. some users do move mail to the trash and eventually expunge the folder, but if that happens. those file names need to be deleted in my db
[14:55:43] <codestr0m> f3ew: do you mean inotify and have a C listener on the mail directory?
[14:56:16] <f3ew> es
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[14:56:54] <cpm> codestr0m, understood, but that's not a maildrop function
[14:57:00] <codestr0m> f3ew: my C skills are not good.. I'd have to pay someone to do that. which I'm not apposed to at all.. I looked at man inotify and it seems trivial, but still it would be important
[14:57:14] <cpm> inotify is a good place to look.
[14:57:18] <cpm> what is the intent?
[14:57:34] <codestr0m> cpm: short version. new mail arrives. and the contents need to be indexed
[14:57:54] <codestr0m> used for searching later. if the mail is deleted. the index needs updating
[14:58:01] <cpm> ick
[14:58:12] <codestr0m> and using couriers built-in search probably isn't efficient enough
[14:58:17] <cpm> good luck
[14:58:26] <codestr0m> cpm: recommendations?
[14:58:32] <cpm> cool idea. Zimbra did this, but it used mysql
[14:58:39] <cpm> as the mailstore
[14:58:56] <cpm> recommendations? use gmail :)
[14:59:05] <cpm> sorry
[14:59:09] <codestr0m> cpm: :P well. at least you know where I got the idea ;)
[14:59:18] <f3ew> no
[14:59:23] <cpm> no?
[14:59:31] <codestr0m> "cpm: recommendations? use gmail :)"
[14:59:34] <f3ew> zimbra had it's own pop3 and imap daemons but did not store mail in mysql
[14:59:57] <f3ew> just the index
[14:59:59] <cpm> f3ew, right, it used mysql for the index
[15:00:02] <cpm> sorry
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[15:00:52] <cpm> there is also sqlmail
[15:01:47] <codestr0m> cpm: isn't that a M$ product. .(I just googled it)
[15:01:58] <cpm> sorry, mysqlmail
[15:02:24] * cpm should be quiet, until he can connect his keyboard to his brain a bit more accurately
[15:14:08] <sysmonk> codestr0m: didn't read it all, but cyrus has and index for mails
[15:17:58] <codestr0m> sysmonk: that was the quick and easy first thought, but then we started running the numbers and for our app it didn't make sense
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[15:51:30] <m_g> hey guys, re-asking my question.. if i want to mirror messages for server A to server B, what's the easiest way to do this?
[15:54:39] <codestr0m> m_g: try rsync if you really want easy
[15:54:57] <codestr0m> I'm pretty sure that's not what you are asking though
[15:55:57] <m_g> codestr0m, sorry, think my question was not verbose enough.. i want to be sure that the new mail system works correctly (i.e. spam filtering, ...) while the old mail server stays the primary server, so the new server should receive the emails the "normal way" and not through rsync
[15:56:39] <sysmonk> always_bcc ? :)
[15:56:48] <m_g> heh
[15:57:00] <codestr0m> m_g: test it before you roll it out. feed it ham/spam and test messages?
[15:57:10] <codestr0m> put it on a non-important domain?
[15:57:40] <m_g> yep that would be an option.. so there's no option in postfix to say "send everything to that server too"?
[15:58:01] <m_g> i think i will use the non-important domain approach
[15:58:39] <slashtom> i'm using postfix+sasl authentication, i want to be able to log failed authentication attempts (the username is not displayed in /var/log/mail.info) any ideas how i can log the username of failed authentication attempts?
[15:58:58] <m_g> btw off-topic question.. when i use "new folder" in my mail client on an IMAP account, is that the same as doing 'maildirmake bla' on the server directly?
[16:05:29] <dps> Guys, is there anything wrong with this reglar expression  "/^(+) at domain dot com$/      $user1 at domain dot com" ?
[16:08:18] <unixipher> please check following link and tell me how could any body do some thing like that  http://www.orkspace.net/owned/
[16:09:01] <unixipher> sorry, wrong channel !
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[16:40:39] <ctx144k> ok... i configured my mailserver based on the follow dokumentation on debian-etch:  http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-etch/
[16:41:02] <ctx144k> it seems to be run, but i dont get in incomming mails the follow message:
[16:41:46] <ctx144k> X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mymailserver
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[16:43:52] <ctx144k> but in mylog i get the message:
[16:43:53] <ctx144k> Nov 26 16:43:53 lingox4u amavis[4093]: (04093-02) Passed CLEAN, [85.13.135.113] [217.86.139.52] <andre at lingox4u dot de> -> <andre at lingox4u dot de>, Message-ID: <474AE99D.3080401 at lingox4u dot de>, mail_id: kbpkFOWO4bcN, Hits: -, queued_as: 5477DEFC302, 209 ms
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[16:51:09] <Signum> ctx144k: Looks good. Anything after that log line?
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[16:53:49] <ctx144k> http://rafb.net/p/pIGyO523.html
[16:54:02] <ctx144k> i think it looks fine...
[16:54:15] <ctx144k> and here is my mail:
[16:55:39] <ctx144k> http://rafb.net/p/VFGKTb18.html
[16:55:58] <ctx144k> but there are no amavis-infos in the mail !
[16:57:47] <cpm>  grep \$X_HEADER_TAG /path/to/amavisd.conf
[16:59:07] <ctx144k> in debian etch i havent a amavisd.conf
[17:00:54] <ctx144k> $X_HEADER_LINE = "Debian $myproduct_name at $mydomain";
[17:00:56] <cpm> http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-etch/#id29
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[17:01:53] <cpm> http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-etch/#step-10-amavis-filtering-spam-and-viruses  rather
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[17:03:41] <ctx144k> ahhh yes :-(
[17:03:46] <ctx144k> moment ill try
[17:04:54] <ctx144k> cpm, thnxs
[17:05:15] <ctx144k> i should read my dokus :-(
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[17:32:24] <tolecnal> I'm using postfix (with this config -> http://pastebin.tolecnal.net/12), and for some reason it fails to send e-mails sent either via POP or IMAP. but mails sent using command line using tools like 'mail' locally suceeds. And I can't really figure out why.
[17:33:48] <tolecnal> Server returns; Server replied: 554 5.7.1 <sir_tolecnal at hotmail dot com>: Relay access denied
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[17:44:37] <slashtom> anyone know if it's possible to log the username of failed authentication attempts (SASL2/Postfix/MySQL)
[17:45:00] <Kalavera> tolecnal: your client have not relay in order to send email
[17:45:10] <Kalavera> tolecnal: see slashtom
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[17:50:52] <tolecnal> ah, figured it out.. my 'smtp_recipients_restrictions' was set to only 'reject_unauth_destination', I had left out 'permit_mynetworks' and 'permit_sasl_authenticated'
[17:52:22] <slashtom> what should i see? :)
[17:53:43] <Kalavera> slashtom: no, don't you tolecnal
[17:54:16] <Kalavera> tolecnal: what is the order ?
[17:55:22] <madduck> Nov 26 17:54:45 seamus postfix/smtp[13810]: connect to bl-ckh-le.kernel.org[204.152.191.29]: Connection timed out (port 25)
[17:55:22] <tolecnal> Kalavera: as I said, it was set to _just_ use 'reject_unauth_destination'. thus, it failed. now I have set it to 'permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated, reject_unauth_destination'
[17:55:31] <tolecnal> and it works perfectly now
[17:55:40] <madduck> why would postfix persist in trying to connect to the 999 MX for kernel.org for sender verification, and not the other three MXs?
[17:55:48] <madduck> they are 10-30 and all work, but no, pf tries the 999 one
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[18:03:31] <irule> what are all the related tcp/udp ports to use with outlook? I am aware of 25 and 110, but that about the ports that are used in secure connections? thanks
[18:04:26] <felix_da_catz> 995 for pop
[18:04:52] <felix_da_catz> and 993 for imap
[18:05:44] <goo> 587 and 465 for smtp
[18:05:54] <goo> afair
[18:06:08] <irule> thanks
[18:12:49] <tolecnal> hmmm, now the server sends the mails.. but for some reason, they seem the only get queued at the receiver end (tested towards hotmail and gmail). if it isn't one thing, it's another issue
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[18:19:15] <tolecnal> hmm, no matter where I send my mails the mails end up queued, and never reach their recipients
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[18:38:51] <tolecnal> argh! why are my outgoing mails queued instead of delivered? *sigh*
[18:39:27] <felix_da_catz> log files usually help
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[18:42:45] <cpm> usually
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[18:43:30] <tolecnal> felix_da_catz: http://pastebin.tolecnal.net/13
[18:44:10] <cpm> looks pretty delivered to me
[18:46:11] <Dominian> uhh yeah
[18:46:20] <Dominian> the remote server is answer with a 250 which means it took the email for delivery
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[18:50:13] <tolecnal> sorry, my mistake.. it's been received by the other recipients, all apart from the mail to hotmail.. where you can see it only gets queued for some reason
[18:50:30] <Dominian> tolecnal: the postqueue -p command might telly ou why it was queued
[18:50:42] <Dominian> lots of people.. including myself have been having issues with delivering to hotmail and yahoo accounts
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[18:51:17] <tolecnal> hmmm, it's not in the queue locally..
[18:52:23] <Dominian> then it isn't queueing
[18:52:30] <Dominian> tail your maillogs.. send something to hotmail and see what happens
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[18:56:10] <m9> evening
[18:56:55] <fholmes> I don't know if Hotmail is using Domainkeys now?  I know that Yahoo is.  That help me out with sending to yahoo.
[18:57:37] <m9> i'm having a bit of an issue with getting postfix to talk to my web hosting provider's mail server. i'd like to be absolutely sure that the problem is not with me before i have a blazing row with their technical support
[18:57:48] <m9> bare with me...
[18:58:10] <m9> basically they don't allow open relaying, and that's perfectly fair
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[18:58:29] <m9> they say that to use their mail server from a client such as outlook express, you must enable SMTP auth
[18:58:32] <m9> BUT
[18:58:59] <m9> they then go on to claim, in my correspondence with them, that ANY sort of relaying is not allowed
[18:59:03] <m9> including authenticated
[18:59:23] <m9> correct me if i am wrong, but doesn't this mean that their mail server effectively only allows local mail delivery
[18:59:45] <m9> and is in fact useless if you want to send mail using an email address provided by them?
[19:00:13] <m9> they then go on to claim that "email is working fine"
[19:00:22] <m9> but i don't understand how it can be?
[19:00:44] <m9> are MUAs speaking some sort of magic protocol these days that i'm not aware of?
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[19:04:38] <dwxreaper> how do i see what is in the postfix queue before i delete mail
[19:04:50] <dwxreaper> and i delete with postsuper -d - > * , to delete all?
[19:05:47] <dwxreaper> i'll check /var/spool/postfix, i guess that's where it is
[19:06:02] <dwxreaper> i just wanna know for sure this thing wont' send like 100,000 messages like it did before
[19:06:08] <dwxreaper> this is just a sever i setup for myself
[19:07:35] <dwxreaper> so i don't want it to send anymore mail, can someone please help
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[19:10:32] <m9> back in a while
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[19:13:29] <dwxreaper> in var/spool/postfix, what are the directories that are going to send mail
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[19:23:34] <dwxreaper> hmmm, i deleted some files, went to /var/spool/postfix
[19:23:37] <dwxreaper> then did find . -type f -exec rm {} ';'
[19:23:46] <dwxreaper> didn't notice there were like 6 files that weren't mail messages
[19:24:03] <dwxreaper> ./lib/libnss_hesiod-2.5.so
[19:24:03] <dwxreaper> ./lib/libnss_mdns6.so.2
[19:24:03] <dwxreaper> ./lib/libnss_compat-2.5.so
[19:24:08] <dwxreaper> and some more, that a big deal?
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[19:34:55] <mw-home> hi, i have two servers, and I want them both to be able to handle mail for my domain.  but when the secondary server receives an email, how do I tell it to deliver it to the primary?  Right now, it holds it.
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[19:35:23] <mw-home> both have identical "mydestination" entries in main.cf.
[19:35:44] <atchoum_> tu va nous faire chier longtemps toi ?
[19:35:59] <atchoum_> tu vois pas qu'on travail
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[19:37:12] <cpm> mw-home, the way it works, is handled by dns. the mail server *knows* if it is a primary or 'secondary' mx record, if it's a secondary, it will accept mail, and deliver it to the primary when it can.
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[19:39:17] <mw-home> cpm: should the secondary server include the domain in mydestination?  I think that config entry forces postfix to deliver it locally.
[19:40:47] <the1d> mw-home: no, the backup should list the domains under relay_domains
[19:40:52] <the1d> !relay_domains
[19:40:53] <knoba> the1d: "relay_domains" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: What destination domains (and subdomains thereof) this system will relay mail to. Subdomain matching is controlled with the parent_domain_matches_subdomains parameter.
[19:40:56] <cpm> if the domain is in mydestination, then it will treat it accordingly. So, having a secondary with a local destination is illogical
[19:41:25] <cpm> or 'backup mx' as it were
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[19:43:13] <mw-home> cpm: so, the backup mx probably should NOT have mydestination include the primary domain, right?
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[19:47:34] <mw-home> so, will a server accept mail for a domain not included in "mydestination" ?
[19:48:20] <the1d> if the domain is listed under relay_domains, yes
[19:48:51] <the1d> but a domain should ONLY be listed under mydestination if it really is handled locally
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[19:50:32] <mw-home> the1d: So, my backup box should list the primary domain in the relay_domain section, NOT in the mydestination section.
[19:50:43] <the1d> correct
[19:50:48] <mw-home> the1d: thx
[19:50:51] <the1d> but!
[19:50:57] <mw-home> ?
[19:50:58] <the1d> and be warned!
[19:51:39] * cpm strongly holds to the view that backup MXs create more problems than they solve
[19:51:42] <Kalavera> guys if I have an alias wich redirect to 5 addresses with 2 with a syntax problem
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[19:52:03] <the1d> if your backup MX hasn't got the same protection as the primary (antispam, viruschecks, greylisting etc. etc) the backup MX will become a spaminfested sesspool within 2 minutes
[19:52:08] <Kalavera> if some person send mail to this alias, I don't receive any mail two other three addresses
[19:52:37] <cpm> logs
[19:53:49] <mw-home> cpm: if I don't set up a backup MX, what happens if my primary dies?
[19:53:58] <mw-home> do i use a load-balanced primary instead/
[19:54:09] <cpm> mw-home, stuff just queues until you get it back up?
[19:54:22] <cpm> how long do you intend to leave your mail server dead?
[19:54:52] <cpm> gone (I *hope*) are the days when folks run their MX boxes on packet-radio links
[19:55:20] <cpm> load-balancing is quite nice, if you have need of it.
[19:55:27] <cpm> remember, this is postfix, not sendmail
[19:55:28] <cpm> :)
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[20:02:14] <mw-home> cpm: thanks for the help.
[20:02:28] <cpm> mw-home, enjoy!
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[20:49:40] <tolecnal> if I didn't hate Hotmail already, I sure do so now.. it just plainly refuses to accept mail from my server, with or without a SPF enabled domain
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[20:52:58] <cpm> tolecnal, are you blacklisted?
[20:53:31] <tolecnal> hah! this gets more and more bizarre. the mail gets through, if it's a reply to a mail sent from Hotmail
[20:53:38] <tolecnal> cpm: not that I'm aware of
[20:55:07] <cpm> tolecnal, what domain?
[20:55:15] <tolecnal> did a check over at mxtoolbox.com, and only one lists the IP as blacklisted
[20:55:16] <tolecnal> xiro.net
[20:55:21] <cpm> tolecnal.net ?
[20:55:24] <cpm> xiro.net?
[20:55:39] <tolecnal> hosted on same IP, but my main concern is xiro.net
[20:56:39] <cpm> 64.22.109.88 has no PTR record
[20:56:44] <cpm> that'll do it.
[20:57:24] <cpm> ah, I trace finds it.
[20:57:28] <cpm> interesteing
[20:57:44] <cpm> li17-88.members.linode.com looks like a residential range
[20:57:57] <cpm> that would keep you out of my servers (maybe)
[20:58:40] <rob0> linode.com? Those are VPSs.
[20:58:51] <tolecnal> yeah, it's hosted on a VPS where the original hostname is just that
[20:59:03] <tolecnal> and yes, a linode.com VPS
[20:59:10] <rob0> You need to tell them to set your reverse DNS.
[20:59:34] <rob0> same as what you use for $myhostname
[21:00:09] <fholmes> that is if he has a dedicated IP address.
[21:00:19] <tolecnal> yeah, I have a dedicated IP
[21:00:20] <cpm> as long as he has a valid ptr record, shouldn't matter.
[21:00:21] <rob0> it's a VPS, yes
[21:00:44] <fholmes> They should be able to set that up pretty easily for you.
[21:00:49] <cpm> it's nice if forward/reverse are the same, but it isn't a requirement anywhere, (if it is, point it out)
[21:01:32] <cpm> all in all, it looks okay
[21:01:48] <tolecnal> ah well, I was able to get the reverse changed for that IP
[21:01:53] <tolecnal> so now it points to xiro.net
[21:01:56] <cpm> gnax (the parent /22) won't confess to it though
[21:02:01] <cpm> whois -h whois.gnax.net 64.22.109.88
[21:02:04] <tolecnal> now to let that change propogate and do tests later
[21:02:37] <cpm> actually, gnax has a /19 in that range
[21:02:53] <cpm> and their whois servers won't answer. Man, I HATE all ISPS
[21:03:06] <rob0> they hate you too :)
[21:03:17] <tolecnal> haha
[21:03:26] <tolecnal> ah well, thanks for the replies (again)
[21:03:58] <tolecnal> this whole thing of setting up a server from scratch with real specifications is an eye opener, and quite the learning experience
[21:04:19] <tolecnal> all my previous hosted solutions has been control panel based, this time around, I wanted to do it myself
[21:04:28] <cpm> rob0, a whois server should be allowed to refuse to answer for 5 days
[21:04:40] <cpm> after than, pull their allocations/assignments
[21:05:25] <cpm> and assign them to rob0
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[21:05:51] <entendu> holy hell there's a postfix channel and it's big.
[21:06:08] <cpm> heh
[21:06:41] * cpm really would like to get his hands on whomever is responsible for .tv tld
[21:06:45] <cpm> for instance
[21:07:16] <entendu> So you have three boxes that are load-balanced http servers
[21:07:35] <entendu> your http app sends the occasional email -- not enough to set up dedicated mail servers for
[21:07:47] <entendu> but grepping maillogs across servers is a pain
[21:07:49] <entendu> thoughts?
[21:08:03] <cpm> what is your problem?
[21:08:09] <jduggan> log all to one syslog server?
[21:08:32] <entendu> problem == logs on several servers, would like a centralized location
[21:08:49] <cpm> umm, so use a syslog server
[21:09:39] <entendu> a syslog server huh
[21:09:49] <fholmes> Yes, they are really pretty easy to setup.
[21:09:54] <cpm> folks have having all kinds of fun with syslog-ng, don't mess with it myself, but you could google about a bit.  Not exactly a postfix issue
[21:10:30] <entendu> Got it, thought postfix might have an option to log somewhere off the local system
[21:10:49] <cpm> but yeah, using a central (and replicated) syslog server is not uncommon, not at all
[21:10:56] <cpm> postfix uses syslog
[21:11:30] <entendu> cool, thanks for the pointer. I'll check it out.
[21:14:51] <fholmes> Does anyone here use DSPAM?
[21:15:12] <sysmonk> cpm: i've got syslogng in my farm
[21:15:14] <fholmes> Not looking for help per se, just curious to know if I should consider it over Spam Assassin.
[21:15:22] <sysmonk> 50+ hosts logging to it
[21:16:01] <sysmonk> works fine :)
[21:16:41] <jduggan> fholmes: we use dspam
[21:16:55] <cpm> yeah, so I've heard. I'm still pretty old-school, quite shy of all ng things
[21:17:30] <sysmonk> heh, quite a good thing it is for a dedicated log server
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[21:28:12] <cpm> a rob0 log server?
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[21:29:15] <_logik_> hello folks
[21:29:32] <_logik_> I have a question about using amavis as a before-queue content filter
[21:29:39] <_logik_> any1 available ?
[21:34:32] <fholmes> jduggan:  Do you like it?  Have you used Spam Assassin before?  I understand it is faster than SA, but it is as full featured as SA?
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[21:55:01] <Aw0L> I have smtp auth setup (apparently correctly), how do I allow authenticated smtp users to relay to all domains? but not everyone else?
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[21:59:17] <fholmes> smtpd_sender_restrictions=permit_sasl_authenticated
[21:59:18] <fholmes> ??
[21:59:23] <fholmes> My best guess
[22:01:02] <Aw0L> fholmes, I have that already - I need to do some more testing I think....
[22:01:05] <Aw0L> thanks though
[22:05:14] <rob0> !sasl_readme shows exactly which restrictions are needed and where.
[22:05:14] <knoba> rob0: Error: "sasl_readme" is not a valid command.
[22:05:20] <rob0> !sasl_readme
[22:05:21] <knoba> rob0: "sasl_readme" : www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html
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[22:08:06] <rob0> But, on review of the question, I find it confusing. "... To relay to all domains? but not everyone else?"
[22:08:11] <grandy> hello... wondering if anyone would be able to help me figure out if I have correctly formatted DNS TXT records for DKIM ...
[22:08:16] <grandy> I am using: ronb._domainkey.shilliber.com but dkim is failing b/c of an invalid DNS record
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[22:11:58] <Aw0L> I have relay_domains = my local domain, and mynetworks commented out - I want to accept mail from everyone, but only grant authenticated smtp users with relay ability
[22:12:16] <Aw0L> should I get rid of the relay_domains and add mynetworks?
[22:12:43] <Aw0L> no wait, mynetworks is set to the local network ip
[22:12:53] <Aw0L> yeah, I don't know what I'm asking, nevermind
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[22:20:27] <fholmes> grandy:  I just have the following in my dns records:
[22:20:54] <fholmes> _domainkey			IN		TXT		"k=rsa; p=fkajdflkajfkadslfjasldfkjalskjflaskjdfladskfj; t=y;"
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[22:21:09] <fholmes> sorry, there is obviously spaces in there.
[22:21:44] <grandy> fholmes: you just called the record _domainkey ?
[22:21:50] <fholmes> yes, that is all.
[22:22:05] <grandy> fholmes: what's in your s= tag in the messages if you don't mind me asking
[22:22:12] <fholmes> I think I had the same problem with it when I was trying to set it up.
[22:22:19] <fholmes> Humm.  i need to look at one, hold on.
[22:23:44] <fholmes> humm.  good question there.  I didn't set it up, I just setup the DNS.
[22:27:42] <grandy> fholmes: ahh ...
[22:28:06] <grandy> fholmes: i was just putting a dot in the hostname to try to get a subcomain... which works with dig, but I Don't think it's the proper way to do it
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[22:36:52] <carcer> hello, SASL_README.html says that to enable sasl PLAIN auth, one should use:
[22:36:56] <carcer> smtp_sasl_security_options = noanonymous
[22:37:31] <carcer> this doesn't seem to be working ("no mechanism available")
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[22:37:40] <carcer> i've authenticated to the server over telnet
[22:37:48] <carcer> so it doesn't seem to be the remote side at fault
[22:38:44] <carcer> i watched the attempt with wireshark
[22:38:57] <carcer> it seems that my postfix connects the remote site, does EHLO and then just sends QUIT
[22:40:17] <rob0> smtp_* settings do not affect smtpd(8), the server. What is it you want to do?
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[22:41:09] <carcer> i'm trying to postfix to authenticate to a remote server
[22:41:22] <carcer> to send mail, as a client
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[22:42:42] <carcer> basically, that:
[22:42:43] <carcer> http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html#client_sasl
[22:43:06] <carcer> with:
[22:43:07] <carcer> smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes
[22:43:08] <carcer> smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/usr/local/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd
[22:43:08] <carcer> smtp_sasl_security_options = noanonymous
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[22:48:22] <rob0> Okay, you're looking in the right place. But I've never done it so I can't help much.
[22:49:11] <carcer> really, i just need to know why postfix isn't making any attempt to authenticate. i'll keep hanging around...
[22:49:31] <Pres-Gas> Hey, I have a machine with a couple of IP addresses.  I want to only send email on one address.  I thought it would be found in main.cf in inet_interfaces, but the documentation says "The network interface addresses that this mail system receives mail on."
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[22:49:53] <rob0> My guess, your SASL doesn't see any mechanisms it can use.
[22:49:54] <Pres-Gas> Where is the option for trimming down the ip addresses to send on?
[22:50:13] <rob0> !smtp_bind_address
[22:50:14] <knoba> rob0: "smtp_bind_address" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: An optional numerical network address that the SMTP client should bind to when making a connection.
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[22:50:58] <carcer> rob0: yes, most likely the problem. it sees '250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN'
[22:51:01] <carcer> but won't use them
[22:51:33] <the1d> Pres-Gas: remember to do a 'postfix stop' and 'postfix start' after configuring smtp_bind_address - a mere 'postfix reload' will NOT be enough
[22:51:34] <rob0> Is there a "smtp.conf" file somewhere?
[22:52:08] <fholmes> there are many.  That is the saslauthd service configuration file.
[22:52:36] <rob0> I'm asking carcer.
[22:52:43] <fholmes> sorry.  duh.  :-)
[22:52:55] <Pres-Gas> w00t, the1d.  I think I found it in the postconf.5.html page right as you sent that.
[22:52:58] <carcer> rob0: not that i know of... i'm certainly not running saslauthd.
[22:53:01] <fholmes> I should know that you know all about that file by now.
[22:53:12] <carcer> rob0: you realise i only want to be a client, not a server, as such
[22:53:17] <rob0> Anyone else who has done client auth is welcome to take over. :)
[22:53:39] <the1d> Pres-Gas: rob0 was there first - I just commented on it.. ;)
[22:53:46] <carcer> i thought i had, until today!
[22:53:59] <the1d> but it's a common mistake to make or to overlook.. ;)=
[22:54:03] <the1d> ;) even
[22:54:06] <Pres-Gas> True the1d, thanks rob0
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[22:59:56] <carcer> hmm
[22:59:59] <carcer> seems like i needed to use:
[23:00:00] <carcer> smtp_sasl_mechanism_filter = plain, login
[23:00:05] <carcer> at least i assume that was what did it...
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[23:08:56] <Aw0L> carcer, your /etc/sasl2/smtpd.conf was setup correctly?
[23:09:15] <carcer> i don't have one, i'm only acting as a client with sasl
[23:09:18] <carcer> it seems to be working, at least
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