November 24, 2007 
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November 24, 2007 [00:08:49] <adaptr> ho![00:09:16] *** jMCg has quit IRC[00:12:52] *** tarik has quit IRC[00:17:54] <slimjimflim> does anybody have any good documentation for getting postfix and dovecot up on ubuntu gutsy? i've looked everywhere[00:20:08] *** kreg_lt_ has joined #postfix[00:20:24] <adaptr> sudo aptitude install postfix dovecot[00:22:36] <context> heh[00:23:09] <context> slimjimflim: maybe just install it and then look for 'setting up postfix' docs, postfix is extremely similar on redhat as it is ubuntu im sure ...[00:23:34] <adaptr> slimjimflim there are tons of howtos online[00:26:46] <slimjimflim> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix i followed that one (and a few others) ver batim. every time i get to the end, i can receive mail, but can't send it[00:27:00] <slimjimflim> and i think i've opened the correct ports[00:27:12] <slimjimflim> they're both installed[00:27:26] <rob0> lllllllllooooooooooggggggggsssssssssssss[00:28:03] *** pitakill has quit IRC[00:28:12] <slimjimflim> what about them[00:29:36] *** kreg_lt has quit IRC[00:30:17] *** Kalavera_ has joined #postfix[00:30:23] <Kalavera_> hi guys[00:30:47] <Kalavera_> I have a problem with a message error like : Temporary lokkup failure[00:30:54] <Kalavera_> lookup[00:31:13] <adaptr> the remote server could not be found[00:31:34] <Kalavera_> adaptr: hi another time[00:31:39] <adaptr> postfix will try again later[00:31:55] <Kalavera_> yeah and later I can receive emails[00:32:04] <Kalavera_> but I can experience some delay[00:32:16] <Kalavera_> I have excuse me[00:33:28] <adaptr> whut ?[00:33:45] <adaptr> later you can "receive" mails ? what does that have to do with the error ?[00:33:58] <adaptr> let me rephrase rob0:[00:34:14] <adaptr> LlLloOoOOOoOOooooooo......oooOOoOooOOggggggsssssszzzzzzzzz0rz!!!111oneoneone[00:34:23] <rob0> :)[00:34:36] <adaptr> sometimes you need the tough love[00:35:09] <Kalavera_> :D[00:35:34] *** unixcoder has quit IRC[00:35:39] <Kalavera_> yeahhh in a first moment I see that error buth then I receive the email delayed[00:36:28] <adaptr> don't make rob0 repeat hisself...you won't like it[00:36:43] <rob0> As I told you yesterday, use DNS tools to diagnose DNS problems.[00:36:49] *** meandtheshell has quit IRC[00:36:58] <adaptr> yesterday ? heh[00:37:01] <adaptr> NEXT[00:37:22] <Kalavera_> rob0, possibly I don't read you because I was out of the office a bunch of hours[00:37:37] <rob0> He pasted in a "ping www.yahoo.com" to show that DNS was working.[00:37:46] <Kalavera_> yeah that's right[00:37:49] <adaptr> w00t, I am convinced[00:39:08] <Kalavera_> rob0: you think the problem is on the resolver wich the servers is using?[00:39:52] <adaptr> Kalavera_ nobody *knows* where the problem is, until you *investigate* it[00:39:56] <rob0> Kalavera_, I could not even begin to guess without information. Why would you expect me to?[00:40:38] <Kalavera_> mmm It is only a question[00:41:52] <Kalavera_> my scenario is : on the DMZ zone I have a smtp gateway[00:42:19] <Kalavera_> mail server is on another network and has an antivirus software[00:42:36] <Kalavera_> this antivirus software work with a second instance of postfix[00:42:59] <Kalavera_> so, both servers show me the same problem with differents resolvers[00:43:03] <adaptr> and the smtp gateway is - what ? stupid ? it has no knowledge about valid addresses ?[00:43:11] <adaptr> or is it outbound only[00:43:18] <adaptr> this is all very vague[00:43:53] <Kalavera_> is inbound and outbound and It is Sophos Puremessage Software[00:44:08] <adaptr> Kalavera_ it doesn't matter whether it is a resolver or a root server, you have to find out why it is not doing what you think it should[00:44:24] <Kalavera_> the antivirus agent on the mail server is a mail policy module for Sophos too[00:44:29] <adaptr> ah, so - you have 2 pieces of proprietary junk, and one actual postfix MTA[00:45:34] <Kalavera_> yeah, on the mail server I has postfix running on 25 port and a second instance of postfiox running on 1025 port (gift of sophos)[00:45:54] <adaptr> ICANHASPOSTFIX![00:46:31] <adaptr> Kalavera_ the word "mailserver" is losing all it smeaning here - you have ONE instance of an actual MTA, which does more than filtering[00:46:56] <adaptr> the rest could have been done by one of the available solutions, and are not relevant here[00:47:20] <adaptr> if all your mail enters enad leaves the network through the proprietary smtp gateway, then that's where it fails[00:47:24] <adaptr> *and[00:47:25] <adaptr> even[00:47:49] <adaptr> it looks like your MTA has no direct link to the internet, ergo it cannot be at fault when you have a DNS problem[00:48:37] <Kalavera_> ok[00:48:49] <adaptr> oh, and did I mention ?[00:48:52] <adaptr> LLLOOOGGGSSS[00:49:05] <adaptr> I'm done talking to myself[00:49:06] <adaptr> out[00:49:19] <Kalavera_> http://www.pastebin.ca/795294[00:49:52] * the1d gives adaptr a patience-potion[00:50:04] <Kalavera_> :D[00:51:03] <rob0> 200.121.66.4 is rejecting you.[00:51:22] <adaptr> 451[00:51:52] <adaptr> and you're relaying to an IP but not avoiding the DNS lookup on it[00:51:59] <adaptr> which is... silly[00:52:46] <Kalavera_> http://www.pastebin.ca/795299[00:53:18] <Kalavera_> adaptr: excuse me please but what does silly mean?[00:53:26] <Kalavera_> wait I am seeing my list of verbs :D[00:53:56] <adaptr> I should have asked this immediately: has this EVER worked ?[00:54:17] <rob0> So use dig(1) on 200.121.66.4 and see what you get. There's your broken resolver.[00:55:08] <adaptr> it has no rDNS[00:55:16] <adaptr> mystery solved[00:55:54] <Kalavera_> If I understood you the gateway send messages to the MTA[00:56:07] <Kalavera_> and this last one reject the messages right?[00:56:22] <adaptr> NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from unknown[10.0.1.7][00:56:25] <adaptr> wow[00:56:32] <adaptr> your own mail servers don't even know each other[00:56:57] <Kalavera_> firewall proxy has to addresses : 200.121.66.4 and 10.0.1.x for the other network[00:57:08] <adaptr> firewall proxy ??[00:57:30] <Kalavera_> gateway is on the DMZ[00:57:33] <adaptr> Kalavera_ no, both the MTA and the gateway have problems[00:57:48] <Kalavera_> and MTA on other network behind the fw[00:57:55] <adaptr> Kalavera_ so, the gateway tries to send to the 200.x address to get to the mail server ?[00:58:04] <Kalavera_> yeah[00:58:10] *** felix_da_catz has joined #postfix[00:58:14] <Kalavera_> the fw is doing a nat to the MTA[00:58:17] <adaptr> and how would sending mail to a firewall help you ?[00:58:18] <adaptr> ah[00:58:28] <adaptr> NAT != proxy[00:58:29] <adaptr> never[00:58:51] <Kalavera_> I named it firewall proxy because It is IPTables and squid[00:59:08] <adaptr> well, it is first and foremost a *router*[00:59:14] <adaptr> whatever else it does[00:59:27] *** j_s has quit IRC[00:59:33] <Kalavera_> so[00:59:56] <Kalavera_> FW receive gateway comunication on 200.x.x.x and nat the connection to 10.0.1.100[01:00:04] <Kalavera_> 10.0.1.100 is the MTA[01:00:11] <adaptr> you need to send a mail from the MTA to a remote address and follow the chain on all three machines[01:00:18] <Kalavera_> FW is the resolver for the MTA[01:00:24] <adaptr> this is not really helping[01:00:31] <Kalavera_> and Telefonica DNS servers is the resolvber for the Gateway[01:00:35] <adaptr> or, alternatively, go on and ignore aht I'm saying[01:02:38] <adaptr> Kalavera_ since your ISP has no clue about the firewall, this is at least one reason you're failing at newbie class[01:04:56] <Kalavera_> relayhost = 10.0.1.1[01:04:57] <Kalavera_> luser_relay = $mailbox at gateway-pmx dot miraflores.gob.pe[01:05:58] <adaptr> wow, and now posting random configuration[01:06:19] <adaptr> correction: random *bad* configuration[01:07:33] <Kalavera_> well ok[01:07:42] <Kalavera_> :D[01:09:00] <adaptr> are you understanding anything I've said ?[01:09:31] * the1d gives adaptr yet another patience-potion[01:09:32] <Kalavera_> yeah I think so[01:10:03] <adaptr> so.. what is your next step ?[01:10:18] <Kalavera_> I am reviewing logs file[01:10:39] <Kalavera_> and reviewing hosts file and main and master files on both servers[01:11:10] <Kalavera_> indepently of what tread of software I use the gateway and the second instace are postfix[01:11:28] <adaptr> and how is that going to help you ? presumably you have seen the configs before[01:11:36] <adaptr> dint help you then[01:12:01] <Kalavera_> Maybe I don't see some detail adaptr[01:12:10] <adaptr> Troubleshooting, Lesson One:[01:12:15] <adaptr> Isolate the issue[01:12:18] <Kalavera_> @@[01:12:57] <Kalavera_> ok, is a dns issue. I try to configure master.cf in this way :[01:13:55] <adaptr> no, no, no, no, no[01:13:59] <Kalavera_> smtp inet n - n - - smtpd -v[01:14:04] <adaptr> *find out what the issue is*[01:14:15] <adaptr> it has NOTHING to do with master.cf in ANY way[01:14:23] <Kalavera_> ok[01:14:24] <adaptr> unless you seriously screwed it up previously[01:14:43] <adaptr> I feel a rob0 coming on[01:14:51] <adaptr> !rob0[01:14:52] <knoba> adaptr: "rob0" : a bot that reacts to newly joined users with reciting the !basic factoid :)[01:14:55] <adaptr> !basic[01:14:56] <knoba> adaptr: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[01:15:07] <adaptr> please, do us all a favour and study that until you can dream it[01:15:45] <adaptr> or, alternatively, ask a direct, to-the-point, answerable question[01:16:21] <rob0> Verbose logs won't help much except (IF you can find it) to pinpoint which DNS lookup fails. A little bit of dig(1)ging could do that too.[01:16:54] <adaptr> well, I meant more along the lines of him getting to clue up on where it is failing - I already know :)[01:17:17] <Kalavera_> :D[01:17:24] <adaptr> just as I also know that telling him will mean he will munge the config further without actually solving anything[01:17:34] <Kalavera_> I don't see this error before[01:17:35] <rob0> Again, 200.121.66.4 is your broken resolver. And something in its config is rejecting you.[01:17:37] <adaptr> I'm good at these kind of things.....[01:17:48] <Kalavera_> so, I am reading as you sugest me . . .[01:18:04] <Kalavera_> rob0: no[01:18:05] <adaptr> rob0 that is the NATed IP of his MTA, which is obviously unkown to the resolver of his ISP[01:18:12] <Kalavera_> rob0: 200.121.66.4 is my fw[01:18:13] <adaptr> it's *inbound* traffic[01:18:35] <adaptr> the obvious question is, of course: why is it doing DNS on his own firewall at all?[01:18:36] <Kalavera_> the fw is a private resolver for the other network 10.0.1.x and lan 192.168.0.x[01:18:37] <rob0> I think your organization spent too much on junkware and not enough on training.[01:18:44] <adaptr> and if he answers it correctly he can solve it just as easily[01:18:49] <Kalavera_> the public dns server , autoritative is 200.121.66.3[01:18:57] <adaptr> does. not. MATTER.[01:19:04] <adaptr> fix your postfix configs[01:19:07] <Kalavera_> but gateway doesn't use it, It is using ISP resolvers[01:19:14] <adaptr> *why* ?[01:19:27] <adaptr> what is the *point* of having your own DNS if you don't use it ?[01:19:45] <Kalavera_> I don't know adaptr I dont config this server[01:19:50] <Kalavera_> well that server[01:19:53] <adaptr> why does the IP of your MTA resolve to NOTHING ?[01:19:58] <Kalavera_> I am trying to solve a problem[01:20:14] <adaptr> to do that you need to *understand* the problem[01:20:19] <rob0> You are wasting your time and ours. You don't know enough to understand it.[01:20:36] <adaptr> and regrettably, that most likely means understanding what whoever did configure it messed up[01:20:39] <Kalavera_> MTA is trying to do a reverse lookup for the IP ?[01:20:44] <adaptr> yes[01:20:47] <adaptr> always[01:20:57] <adaptr> UNLESS you specifically tell it not to[01:21:05] *** ma3x has joined #postfix[01:21:06] <adaptr> which would be rather common for YOUR OWN SERVERS[01:21:07] <ma3x> hello[01:21:15] <ma3x> does postfix store somewhere received messages?[01:21:28] <Kalavera_> XD[01:21:36] <adaptr> ma3x not... directly, unless you mean in the queue[01:21:48] <Kalavera_> ok adaptr thank you[01:21:50] <rob0> !rob0[01:21:52] <knoba> rob0: "rob0" : a bot that reacts to newly joined users with reciting the !basic factoid :)[01:21:53] <Kalavera_> at all[01:21:56] <rob0> !basic[01:21:57] <knoba> rob0: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[01:21:59] <Kalavera_> and thank you rob0[01:22:10] <ma3x> I mean I got this postfix/qmgr[3001]: C3D44113984: from=<tiger at dedi8 dot ukhost4u.com>, size=1238, nrcpt=1 (queue active)[01:22:17] <adaptr> yes[01:22:20] <ma3x> and I deleted the message[01:22:27] <ma3x> and now I don't know from which site it was sent[01:22:28] <adaptr> how ?[01:22:36] <ma3x> that's just the server dedi8.ukhost4u.com[01:22:37] <ma3x> the mailserver[01:22:46] <ma3x> but the original site name is different[01:22:49] <adaptr> HOW did you delete a message on the active queue ?[01:22:57] <ma3x> i've killed myself googling it and I couldn't find the site name[01:23:02] <ma3x> I didn't[01:23:07] *** Bejgli has quit IRC[01:23:07] *** hal1on has quit IRC[01:23:08] <ma3x> I received it, I deleted it[01:23:09] <adaptr> that's what you said[01:23:14] <ma3x> and now I forgot the site name[01:23:42] <ma3x> is there a log somewhere that shows the sender or reply-to address?[01:23:51] <Kalavera_> ma3x: postqueue -p to list the queue mails[01:24:04] <ma3x> Mail queue is empty[01:24:05] <adaptr> so.. postfix received a spam for you, it did its job perfectly, as always, and now YOU want it to magically regurgitate something that YOU deleted ?[01:24:11] *** Bejgli has joined #postfix[01:24:11] *** hal1on has joined #postfix[01:24:19] <adaptr> allow me to laugh quietly in the corner[01:24:28] <rob0> C3D44113984: from=<tiger at dedi8 dot ukhost4u.com> ... that sure looks like a sender address.[01:24:35] <ma3x> well if it could least show the sender of the email[01:24:38] <Kalavera_> adaptr: XD[01:24:41] <ma3x> well no that's just the mailhost[01:24:46] <ma3x> it's not the reply-to address[01:24:46] <adaptr> ma3x what do you think the log means ?[01:24:47] <Kalavera_> regurgitate is a funny word :D[01:24:56] <adaptr> ma3x and how would you know this ?[01:25:03] <Kalavera_> sounds like a drunk guy[01:25:05] <rob0> If you have deleted the message body, it is gone.[01:25:06] <adaptr> it is the sender that SENT YOU THE MAIL[01:25:15] <adaptr> how can it NOT be a valid return address ?[01:25:26] <ma3x> adaptr, maybe but the site i went to was not dedi8.ukhost4u.com[01:25:33] <adaptr> who *cares* ?[01:25:42] <adaptr> you want the mail back, mail the guy back and ask him to resend[01:26:13] * adaptr goes off to a corner to be alone for a while[01:26:38] <the1d> I think the short answer is: No, Postfix doesn't save copies of mail it sends and receives unless you specifically told it to[01:26:50] <ma3x> adaptr, when I sent mail to that address it returns it to me[01:26:53] <ma3x> says junk??[01:27:05] <adaptr> yes, you know that *now* ... what he asked was nothing like what you interpreted[01:27:16] <rob0> You have clearly read NONE of the documentation.[01:27:25] <ma3x> know what?[01:27:34] <adaptr> that was to the1d[01:28:03] <ma3x> that's just the mailserver dedi8.ukhost4u.com[01:28:10] <the1d> adaptr: that's true..[01:28:11] <ma3x> it's not the original site[01:28:42] <adaptr> ma3x so...how did you get the original mail ?[01:29:01] <rob0> dedi8.ukhost4u.com. 14400 IN A 85.13.239.90[01:29:14] <adaptr> it's rather simple - if he sent you a legitimate email that has no valid sender address, then that's his bad[01:29:15] *** Kalavera_ has quit IRC[01:29:16] <ma3x> rob0, that ip is shared[01:29:23] <ma3x> it probably hosts about thousand sites[01:29:37] *** Kalavera has joined #postfix[01:29:38] <adaptr> no, it is not[01:29:47] <adaptr> it has a valid and IDENTICAL rDNS[01:29:50] <ma3x> ukhost4u.co[01:29:53] <Kalavera> ma3x: do you speak spanish?=[01:30:03] <ma3x> they probably host a lot of sites on that dedi8 server[01:30:06] <ma3x> Kalavera, nope[01:30:17] <adaptr> "they" probably use that server as their *mail server*[01:30:21] <Kalavera> mm ok[01:30:23] <adaptr> which is a Clue[01:30:51] <ma3x> adaptr, but i can't find out the www site, you know what i mean?[01:31:16] <adaptr> and if they host many domains but do not use the virtual domain as te sender, then they have screwed up their config - badly[01:31:25] <adaptr> that's really the bottom line[01:31:51] <adaptr> even if it's masqueraded, it should *still* be a valid address[01:32:08] <adaptr> or they just hose all their clients on the cheap, which would not surprise me either[01:32:29] <ma3x> yeah[01:33:50] <ma3x> is /var/log/mail.log the only log from postfix?[01:34:12] <rob0> !logs[01:34:13] <knoba> rob0: "logs" : by default, postfix logs to the mail facility of syslog. something like grep -i `postconf -h syslog_facility` /etc/syslog.conf should tell you where logs are going.[01:35:33] <Kalavera> ma3x: mail.log mail.info mail.warn[01:35:38] <Kalavera> I have it[01:36:18] <adaptr> rob0 "by default, postfix logs to the mail facility of syslog" <-- shouldn't that be "postfix logs to syslog, by default to the mail facility" ?[01:36:24] <adaptr> it's ambiguous[01:37:32] <rob0> Kalavera, those names all vary by OS.[01:37:48] <Kalavera> ok is an example[01:38:02] <Kalavera> only an alone answer[01:38:09] <Kalavera> XD[01:38:19] <adaptr> an *isolated* answer - see ? there's that word again[01:38:59] <Kalavera> jeje adaptr thank you[01:39:34] <Kalavera> adaptr: where r u tfrom ?[01:40:05] <adaptr> I R FROM BABOON[01:40:12] <rob0> From Hell. adaptr is the Bastard Operator.[01:40:21] <Kalavera> :D[01:40:22] <the1d> I AM WEASEL[01:40:30] <Kalavera> nice to meet you adaptr[01:40:43] <the1d> (or whatever it is he says)[01:40:59] <rob0> nice for him to get out of the Underworld to do IRC.[01:41:10] <adaptr> okay, I hope you get somewhere with your problem[01:44:22] *** coolblade has quit IRC[01:50:57] *** ek has quit IRC[02:11:55] *** theblackbox has joined #postfix[02:12:44] *** duki has quit IRC[02:17:11] *** ek has joined #Postfix[02:24:15] *** war has quit IRC[02:33:41] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[02:34:25] *** funky has quit IRC[02:34:34] *** pitakill has quit IRC[02:34:50] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[02:35:39] *** Severed_Head_Of_ has 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89.xxx.xxx.xxx[13:04:57] <Harrdy> i know ... this is a postfix channel ... but i think many of peopls here can help me :)[13:19:06] *** halorgium has left #postfix[13:31:46] *** lambda has quit IRC[13:42:25] *** phnord has joined #postfix[13:45:16] *** havvg has joined #postfix[13:47:08] <stone> Harrdy: check acl setting in amavisd config[13:59:41] *** war has quit IRC[14:14:56] *** cilly has joined #postfix[14:15:39] *** alys has joined #postfix[14:19:51] <Harrdy> what do you mean by saying check access control list? i dunno where files are located at[14:25:45] <Stijn> Harrdy: How should we know ?[14:25:56] <Stijn> depens on distro[14:27:00] <Harrdy> i have the config files ... but i find any acl settings in this ... conf.d/[14:27:19] <Harrdy> the distro is debian with the newest apt amavisd-new[14:32:39] <shinao1> hi.. im a relative noob, but ive been able to get postfix up and running for my domain with dovecot and openldap. this box is a RHEL5 clone (Startcom Linux). I have tried to setup ssl/tls on postfix, but my problem is when i test the service, my 'ehlo host' returns 250-STARTTLS but not 250-AUTH. can some one please tell me what im missing?[14:33:21] *** prebur has quit IRC[14:34:46] <shinao1> im also very interested in setting up an email gateway for my postfix server in the LAN. I would like to be able to proxy webmail from the internal postfix server, and use the external gateway for relaying.. im hoping someone has a guide to setting this up on RHEL5..or similar...[14:40:14] *** solar_ant has joined #postfix[14:48:26] *** robboplus has quit IRC[14:49:14] *** alys has quit IRC[14:49:46] *** pirho has quit IRC[14:55:07] *** prebur has joined #postfix[15:07:04] *** ljmeijer has quit IRC[15:08:07] <js_> is there a quota alternative to vda?[15:22:45] *** pirho has joined #postfix[15:26:03] *** havvg_ has joined #postfix[15:40:09] *** havvg has quit IRC[15:43:21] *** solar_ant has quit IRC[15:43:54] *** rob0__ is now known as rob0[15:48:01] <shinao1> hi.. im a relative noob, but ive been able to get postfix up and running for my domain with dovecot and openldap. this box is a RHEL5 clone (Startcom Linux). I have tried to setup ssl/tls on postfix, but my problem is when i test the service, my 'ehlo host' returns 250-STARTTLS but not 250-AUTH. can some one please tell me what im missing?[15:50:25] <rob0> !sasl_readme[15:50:26] <knoba> rob0: "sasl_readme" : www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html[15:52:05] <rob0> Official RHEL4 RPMs did not support Dovecot SASL, so I had to build a custom RPM for that. Or, I could have used Cyrus SASL.[15:52:35] <the1d> there are so many things the official RHEL RPM's doesn't support.. :/[15:52:59] <rob0> Like Debian, they stay deliberately behind the times.[15:53:26] <the1d> understandable, but at times toubblesome..[16:02:07] *** Kalavera has joined #postfix[16:02:16] <Kalavera> heya adaptr[16:02:23] <Kalavera> how r u[16:02:26] <Kalavera> XD[16:02:41] <Kalavera> hey rob0[16:02:57] *** solar_ant has joined #postfix[16:04:23] *** funky has quit IRC[16:15:16] *** war has joined #postfix[16:21:11] *** Herbo has quit IRC[16:22:17] *** meandtheshell has quit IRC[16:30:26] <Kalavera> guys I see this error on my MTA : warning: 467701E921A: queue file size limit exceeded[16:31:03] *** havvg_ has quit IRC[16:32:23] <shasta> Results 1 - 10 of about 481,000 for queue file size limit exceeded. (0.16 seconds) ...[16:32:56] <Kalavera> shasta: I am reading on google[16:33:45] <shasta> already got to the part about message_size_limit?[16:33:48] <shasta> !message_size_limit[16:33:49] <knoba> shasta: "message_size_limit" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The maximal size in bytes of a message, including envelope information.[16:44:23] *** robboplus has joined #postfix[16:56:39] <Kalavera> I see other kind of problems too on the same box[16:56:44] <Kalavera> that was one[17:01:14] <adaptr> how large is the queue[17:08:32] <Kalavera> adaptr: is a question ?[17:08:43] <Kalavera> this another problem mysql query failed: Illegal mix of collations[17:08:54] <adaptr> this is not #mysql[17:09:17] <Kalavera> I know adaptr but is an error on my MTA[17:09:17] <Kalavera> :D[17:09:28] <Kalavera> I have postfix + mysql[17:09:33] <Kalavera> so I am googling now[17:10:20] <adaptr> it is NOT a postfix error[17:10:23] <adaptr> it can't be[17:11:26] <Kalavera> > When Postfix tries to look up the adress in the transport table and the[17:11:26] <Kalavera> > address contains a character which is invalid with the table's character[17:11:27] <Kalavera> > set, mysql emits a warning:[17:11:43] <Kalavera> well is a track :D[17:13:09] <shasta> using email addresses or domain names containing non-latin1 characters is asking for trouble[17:13:32] <adaptr> heh[17:14:36] <shasta> isn't it? :>[17:15:07] *** alamar has quit IRC[17:16:53] <adaptr> well, yes - the RFC is very clear about it[17:17:01] <adaptr> it's actually quite a limited subset of latin1[17:17:11] <adaptr> has been since the 70s[17:17:40] <Kalavera> ok, that is my problem of lookup[17:17:43] <Kalavera> http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/postfix/2007-07/0983.html[17:18:24] <Kalavera> see that :[17:18:26] <Kalavera> 451 4.3.0 < Contactosindirecci ndeemail???>: Temporary lookup failure; from=<biblioteca at miraflores dot gob.pe> to=<??? Contactosindirecci?ndeemail???>[17:19:12] <adaptr> oh-kay - you still have not spent the time to actually read the requisite postfix documentation, I see[17:19:13] <Kalavera> ok, the problem is not on the gateway, the problem is on the MTA[17:19:53] <Kalavera> now, what part of this bos causes this problem, the MTA or antivirus postfix[17:20:51] <adaptr> Kalavera you can stop spouting stuff nobody wants to hear, because you have shown to be excruciatingly bad at listening[17:21:18] <adaptr> start with what you need to know, make sure you get to know it, then come back once you have some background in mail and DNS[17:21:47] <adaptr> we're not #internet-for-dummies , there are specialized sites for that[17:22:32] *** atilaX has joined #postfix[17:22:36] <atilaX> hi[17:22:44] <adaptr> ho[17:25:00] <atilaX> i have a mail server with virtual domains. It works fine, but i have one problem. if anybody send a mail with the address user1 at mydomain dot com to user2 at mydomain dot com the system don't use SASL. If user1 at mydomain dot com doesn't exist the mail is approved. I want to authenticate all the local mails too. Any idea??[17:25:35] <evadave> Uh[17:26:26] <evadave> When anything connects via SMTP to your server and says it is sending e-mail to a virtual domain it recognises it, of course, accepts it since you want accept e-mails.[17:26:28] <adaptr> you have a lousy restriction sequence[17:27:20] <evadave> SASL is optional. If your clients don't SASL auth then they cannot send e-mail to anybody but your virtual domains. If you require SASL auth you won't receive e-mails from anybody, like, other mail servers[17:27:39] *** alamar has joined #postfix[17:27:40] <shinao1> hi.. im a relative noob, but ive been able to get postfix up and running for my domain with dovecot and openldap. this box is a RHEL5 clone (Startcom Linux). I have tried to setup ssl/tls on postfix, but my problem is when i test the service, my 'ehlo host' returns 250-STARTTLS but not 250-AUTH. can some one please tell me what im missing?[17:28:47] <atilaX> but spammers send me mails with users that don't exist to valid users. I don't want this spam[17:29:52] <evadave> Spammers often will say "RCPT TO: valid email" but set the header to "To: invalid email", so whilst it looks like it looks like they were sending to an invalid e-mail address, in reality the header is fake and they did tell your mail server a correct email.[17:31:06] *** mark-use has joined #postfix[17:34:40] *** ack_syn has joined #postfix[17:42:42] *** hemry has joined #postfix[17:46:19] *** EvaLuaTe has left #postfix[17:51:26] *** cilly has quit IRC[17:53:29] <shinao1> hi im setting up an email gateway for my internal postfix server.. what directive do i put in my internal server's main.cf to tell it to direct mails to the external mail gateway? thanks in advance[17:54:18] <adaptr> !relayhost[17:54:18] <knoba> adaptr: "relayhost" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The default host to send non-local mail to when no entry is matched in the optional transport(5) table. When no relayhost is given, mail is routed directly to the destination.[17:54:49] <shinao1> thanks very much[17:55:50] <shinao1> im also using ldap as a relay_recipient in the external host.. i need to encrypt this communication over the net.. how do i define this in my relay recipients file?[17:55:57] <adaptr> you might want to put it in brackets to avoid doing lookups for every delivery[17:56:05] <shinao1> id like to use ldaps[17:56:10] <shinao1> put it in brackets?[17:56:16] <adaptr> "an ldap" is not an MTA[17:56:19] <adaptr> so you can't[17:56:20] <shinao1> how do you mean please?[17:56:33] <adaptr> !basic[17:56:34] <knoba> adaptr: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[17:57:02] <adaptr> click on the relayhost link[17:57:21] *** meandtheshell has joined #postfix[17:57:37] *** Ramattack has joined #postfix[17:57:39] <Ramattack> Hi[17:57:47] <Ramattack> I'm having a little trouble[17:57:54] <Ramattack> have set up maildrop with postfix[17:58:48] <Ramattack> and seems maildrop to be working because If I do a maildrop -V5 -d egoitz at ramattack dot org < /mensprueba[17:58:56] <Ramattack> the message is delivered to the mailbox[17:59:10] <Ramattack> I'm using postfix and courier-maildrop from debian etch[17:59:18] <Ramattack> what could I be doing wrong?[17:59:30] <Ramattack> If I deliver the message through postfix doesn't work[18:00:02] <adaptr> what is your mailbox_command set to ?[18:00:11] <Ramattack> I'm using virtual transport[18:00:22] <adaptr> yes... so....[18:00:24] <Ramattack> should I set too mailbox_command?[18:00:28] <adaptr> what is your mailbox_command set to ?[18:00:33] <Ramattack> commented[18:00:56] <Ramattack> # mailbox_command = procmail -a "$EXTENSION"[18:01:04] <Ramattack> should be something set there?[18:01:19] *** sepski has joined #postfix[18:01:43] <adaptr> !virtual_mailbox_command[18:01:44] <knoba> adaptr: Error: "virtual_mailbox_command" is not a valid command.[18:01:49] <adaptr> !mailbox_command[18:01:50] <knoba> adaptr: "mailbox_command" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional external command that the local(8) delivery agent should use for mailbox delivery. The command is run as the recipient. Exception: command delivery for root executes with $default_user privileges.[18:02:06] <adaptr> I don't know what you use, you give shit-all very little actual information[18:02:31] <Ramattack> I'm using virtual transport[18:02:38] <Ramattack> and have configured maildrop in master.cf[18:03:26] <adaptr> so it's working,m yes ?[18:04:04] <Ramattack> no... but this is not needed because in another server I have it commented too and works nice...[18:04:15] <Ramattack> same installation[18:04:20] <Ramattack> with the difference[18:04:27] <adaptr> sigh[18:04:32] <Ramattack> I'm using courier-maildrop package here instead of maildrop[18:05:12] *** Internat3 has joined #postfix[18:05:17] *** Internat has quit IRC[18:06:09] <Ramattack> strange...[18:07:00] <Ramattack> and this seem to be delivered[18:07:00] <Ramattack> Nov 24 19:01:11 correo-piloto postfix/pipe[6251]: A17481AB41D: to=<egoitz at hosting01ram dot net>, relay=maildrop, delay=0.17, delays=0.12/0.04/0/0.02, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered via maildrop service)[18:09:28] <Ramattack> and[18:09:31] <Ramattack> all mails[18:09:45] <Ramattack> are being delivered in a single file in /home/vmail/Maildir[18:10:34] <adaptr> so your maildir setting sucks[18:10:58] <Ramattack> but if I do from command line it... it works and delivers properlyu[18:11:09] <Ramattack> only when sent through postfix[18:11:12] <Ramattack> doesn't work[18:11:36] <Ramattack> and writes in maildirsize and all...[18:12:06] <the1d> btw - what's the status for a SRS plugin for Postfix?[18:13:19] <the1d> is there anything that's stable and usable? It's been a year since I last looked at it, and decided to do my own semi-implementation of it using a transport and custom transport-script to to the actual rewriting..[18:22:11] *** lambda has joined #postfix[18:22:26] *** hark has quit IRC[18:29:26] *** thumbs has quit IRC[18:30:49] *** tarik has quit IRC[18:36:34] *** duki has quit IRC[18:36:35] *** hparker has joined #postfix[18:36:52] *** duki has joined #postfix[18:41:02] *** mark-use has quit IRC[18:42:06] *** duki has quit IRC[18:42:22] *** duki has joined #postfix[18:45:49] *** thumbs has joined #postfix[18:45:50] *** atilaX has quit IRC[18:47:31] *** duki has quit IRC[18:47:40] *** duki has joined #postfix[18:47:42] <shinao1> hi.. im trying to configure my postfix install to behave itself :) im running squirrelmail which is on the mailserver itself and so emails coming from the mailserver are user at localhost dot mydomain.org. how do i make it correct the address to use at mydomain dot org?[18:54:10] *** duki has quit IRC[18:54:34] *** duki has joined #postfix[18:56:54] <shinao1> hi.. im trying to configure my postfix install to behave itself :) im running squirrelmail which is on the mailserver itself and so emails coming from the mailserver are user at localhost dot mydomain.org. how do i make it correct the address to use at mydomain dot org?[18:56:58] <shinao1> :)[19:03:50] *** duki has quit IRC[19:04:08] *** duki has joined #postfix[19:07:26] *** pirho has quit IRC[19:10:48] *** duki has quit IRC[19:11:03] *** duki has joined #postfix[19:16:13] *** duki has quit IRC[19:16:33] *** duki has joined #postfix[19:17:37] <shinao1> Kalavera: ?[19:17:41] <shinao1> are you there?[19:21:38] *** duki has quit IRC[19:21:59] *** duki has joined #postfix[19:27:08] *** duki has quit IRC[19:27:31] *** duki has joined #postfix[19:29:45] *** pirho has joined #postfix[19:32:39] *** duki has quit IRC[19:32:57] *** pirho has quit IRC[19:33:02] *** duki has joined #postfix[19:37:10] *** pirho has joined #postfix[19:38:14] *** duki has quit IRC[19:38:26] <kreg_lt_> my sasl works but i still get this in logs[19:38:27] *** duki has joined #postfix[19:38:30] *** blokkie has joined #postfix[19:38:43] <kreg_lt_> warning: SASL authentication problem: unable to open Berkeley db /etc/sasldb2: No such file or directory[19:38:59] <kreg_lt_> yet it works fine[19:40:39] <blokkie> hi , is it "normal" that /var/log/mail/mail.log is not used and empty ?[19:41:52] <kreg_lt_> don't think so. i haven't run into that on any of my distros[19:42:30] <rob0> Check your syslogd.[19:45:39] *** ack_syn has quit IRC[19:45:40] *** duki has quit IRC[19:45:45] *** ack_syn has joined #postfix[19:45:54] *** duki has joined #postfix[19:51:23] *** hemry has quit IRC[19:52:16] * cpm checks rob0logd[19:52:19] *** blokkie has quit IRC[19:53:45] * adaptr installs cpm on rob0[19:53:57] * cpm starts screaming[19:54:49] *** num000 has joined #postfix[19:55:03] <num000> hello[19:56:24] *** duki has quit IRC[19:56:48] *** duki has joined #postfix[19:58:41] *** hal1on has quit IRC[19:58:41] *** Bejgli has quit IRC[19:58:52] *** tarik has joined #postfix[19:59:11] <num000> i'm getting for month spam mail tries from different hosts and always tries to deliver to a local mailbox called bookers at mydomain dot tld, since this host sends no conform helo comand my server rejects this, i suppose that the spammer is for long terms going to adapt and send correct helo comands, is there an other way to prevent this?[19:59:51] *** pirho has quit IRC[20:00:03] *** Bejgli has joined #postfix[20:00:03] *** hal1on has joined #postfix[20:00:15] *** ejovrh has quit IRC[20:00:18] *** hal1on has quit IRC[20:00:31] *** ejovrh has joined #postfix[20:01:25] *** hal1on has joined #postfix[20:01:53] *** duki has quit IRC[20:01:54] <adaptr> if this is the ONLY spam you ever get, I think you're either very lucky or much more clueful than you let on[20:02:17] *** duki has joined #postfix[20:02:29] <adaptr> but it really all depends - you will always get HELO forgeries , so you always need to protect against them[20:02:41] <adaptr> postfix's HELo checks are more than capable[20:02:42] *** amrit|zzz is now known as amrit[20:03:03] <adaptr> the next step up is spam from valid servers, which is where blacklists come in[20:03:09] <adaptr> if you don't use one now, start today[20:04:04] <num000> adaptr, sure i do get spam mail delivery tries from many hosts, but this is really awfull, i'm seeing this for month and always the same address[20:04:04] * cpm redirects rob0 spam to adaptr[20:05:05] <num000> can i do this blacklist restrictions with access restrictions?[20:05:13] <adaptr> no[20:05:28] <adaptr> you don't want to - you put them AFTER all your access restrictions[20:06:08] <num000> with access restrictions you mean stuff like check_helo_access etc...?[20:07:25] *** duki has quit IRC[20:07:34] *** ack_syn has quit IRC[20:07:48] *** duki has joined #postfix[20:07:51] *** hemry has joined #postfix[20:09:09] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[20:10:57] *** prebur has quit IRC[20:12:56] *** duki has quit IRC[20:13:21] *** duki has joined #postfix[20:15:36] <adaptr> yes[20:15:43] <adaptr> among others[20:16:38] <num000> adaptr have you got a working example configuratio for blacklists?[20:17:04] <adaptr> yes[20:17:16] <adaptr> !smtpd_recipient_restrictions[20:17:17] <knoba> adaptr: "smtpd_recipient_restrictions" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The access restrictions that the Postfix SMTP server applies in the context of the SMTP RCPT TO command. See smtpd(5) for an overview of access restriction features. Default is to relay only for source IP addresses in your $mynetwork and to domains set in $relay_domains.[20:17:20] <adaptr> it all goes in there[20:17:32] <adaptr> including HELO and access checks[20:17:41] <adaptr> don't ask why[20:17:54] <rob0> why[20:18:18] * adaptr beats rob0 over the syslog with his zenbat[20:18:23] *** tarik has quit IRC[20:18:31] *** duki has quit IRC[20:18:57] *** duki has joined #postfix[20:19:30] *** unixipher has joined #postfix[20:19:42] *** hark has joined #postfix[20:20:38] *** gonzzor has joined #postfix[20:21:36] <gonzzor> If postconf myhostname returns merrin.localdomain but hostname -f returns a correct fqdn, what could be wrong?[20:21:53] <adaptr> myhostname, obviously[20:22:13] <rob0> Just set it to what you need.[20:23:33] <gonzzor> But why can't postfix figure it out?[20:24:47] *** duki has quit IRC[20:24:57] <rob0> I'm sure Wietse has answered that question a time or 2,000.[20:25:30] <gonzzor> Guess it's a common question..[20:25:44] <gonzzor> But I haven't found any solution to the problem on google.[20:26:10] <rob0> Mostly a Linux one, I bet. I think the resolver libraries in *BSD are different.[20:26:45] *** pirho has joined #postfix[20:26:55] <gonzzor> Yes, it runs on a Linux machine, but the other machine is also doing that..[20:29:16] *** duki has joined #postfix[20:31:30] <num000> is this smtpd_helo_required = yes the same as smtpd_helo_restrictions = reject_unknown_helo_hostname[20:32:36] <rob0> No. smtpd_helo_required means that a client which does not use a HELO/EHLO command will be rejected. That's very rare, even among ratware.[20:32:39] <Ramattack> Hi[20:32:42] <rob0> !reject_unknown_helo_hostname[20:32:42] <knoba> rob0: Error: "reject_unknown_helo_hostname" is not a valid command.[20:33:10] <Ramattack> how could be happening that maildrop delivers nice a message doing from command line and integrated with postfix deliver it to /home/vmail/Maildir file all mails???[20:33:11] <rob0> reject_unknown_helo_hostname means that if the hostname given in HELO/EHLO does not resolve in DNS, reject.[20:33:25] <num000> i see[20:34:01] <rob0> reject_unknown_helo_hostname is not a safe restriction to use, because there are many clueless MSexChange admins which give internal hostnames as HELO.[20:34:14] <num000> is it recommented to use reject_unknown_helo_hostname? this would also affect dsl connected sender, wouldn't it[20:34:27] *** duki has quit IRC[20:34:28] *** prebur has joined #postfix[20:34:48] *** duki has joined #postfix[20:41:51] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[20:42:13] *** duki has quit IRC[20:42:37] *** duki has joined #postfix[20:43:47] *** duki has quit IRC[20:44:09] <Ramattack> have reading something about home_mailbox[20:44:16] <Ramattack> and Maildir/ should be set[20:44:35] <Ramattack> I got it..[20:45:34] *** Harrdy has quit IRC[20:45:47] <Ramattack> this is my config[20:45:47] <Ramattack> http://pastebin.com/d4270661e[20:47:48] <Ramattack> could anyone help me please? this is very amazing and I'm sure is something at postfix[20:48:49] *** djs_2_6_ has joined #postfix[20:49:24] *** djs_2_6 has quit IRC[20:50:08] *** djs_2_6_ is now known as djs_2_6[20:50:15] *** prebur has quit IRC[20:50:19] *** djs_2_6 has joined #postfix[20:55:34] <Kalavera> Ramattack: cuentame[20:55:37] <Kalavera> cual es el problema[20:55:46] <Ramattack> lol[20:56:06] <Ramattack> where my maildrop seems to be working nice and from command line delivers properly the mail on maildir new folder[20:56:19] <Ramattack> but then I launch it from postfix (so as its normal use)[20:56:34] <Ramattack> delivers all mail in a file and in /home/vmail/Maildir file[20:56:38] <Ramattack> donde understand this[20:56:41] *** dragonheart has quit IRC[20:56:54] <Ramattack> my main.cf is some lines before in pastebin.com[20:57:22] <Kalavera> asi veo[20:57:43] *** dragonheart has joined #postfix[20:58:02] <rob0> home_mailbox won't affect maildrop, and it would only be used for delivery via local_transport.[20:58:41] <Ramattack> but maildrop seems to be going fine...[20:58:44] *** gonzzor has left #postfix[20:58:45] <Ramattack> it delivers..[20:59:07] <Ramattack> and in postfix logs you don't see errors too... but all is delivered to a wrong place...[21:00:09] <Kalavera> can you paste some logs messages?[21:00:35] <rob0> So, I told you that home_mailbox won't affect maildrop, and you don't believe me?[21:01:02] <Ramattack> for example[21:01:03] <Ramattack> http://pastebin.com/d65b0e5cf[21:01:09] <Ramattack> yes yes[21:01:13] <Ramattack> I believe you mate...[21:01:23] <Ramattack> the only I was talking is that I'm amazed[21:01:34] <Kalavera> ok I didn't read you[21:02:14] <Ramattack> they're completely normal[21:03:08] <Ramattack> what could have I done wrong... amazing[21:03:31] <Kalavera> mmmm has esto : cat /var/log/maillog | grep to= | grep ramattack.net[21:03:38] <rob0> You say maildrop is working fine, and yet it's delivering to the wrong place. Which?[21:03:54] <Ramattack> yes /home/vmail/Maildir file[21:03:55] *** ack_syn has joined #postfix[21:04:00] <Ramattack> everything is there...[21:04:11] <Ramattack> don't have maillog I'm on debian[21:04:15] <Ramattack> only have syslog[21:04:20] <Ramattack> for that...[21:04:40] <Kalavera> Ramattack: solo tienes una ubicacion para todas las cuentas?[21:04:44] <rob0> Nov 24 21:58:53 correo-piloto postfix/pipe[2882]: BBB9F1AB47D: to=<xxx@munged>, relay=maildrop, delay=0.18, delays=0.09/0.03/0/0.06, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered via maildrop service)[21:04:58] <Ramattack> no...[21:05:07] <Ramattack> /home/vmail/domain/account[21:05:46] <Kalavera> ok[21:06:07] <rob0> so the one you pasted went to /home/vmail/probak.com/egoitz ? And is this wrong?[21:06:17] <Kalavera> grep ramattack.net /var/log/maillog | grep to=[21:06:35] <Kalavera> solo una transaccion sera suficiente[21:06:36] <Ramattack> yes[21:06:48] <rob0> yes wrong?[21:07:01] <Ramattack> Kalavera, don't have maillog[21:07:11] <Ramattack> and only have that on syslog[21:07:12] <Kalavera> well whatevere he has[21:07:43] <Kalavera> Ramattack: excuse, whatever you have[21:07:51] <rob0> Anyway, I don't know how to tell you to configure maildrop, because I've never used maildrop. I can say definitively: NO Postfix settings will affect what maildrop does.[21:07:54] <Ramattack> Nov 24 21:58:53 correo-piloto postfix/pipe[2882]: BBB9F1AB47D: to=<egoitz at probak dot com>, relay=maildrop, delay=0.18, delays=0.09/0.03/0/0.06, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered via maildrop service)[21:08:08] *** num000 has left #postfix[21:08:22] *** Ryushin has joined #postfix[21:08:23] <Kalavera> egoitz is your account?[21:09:37] <Kalavera> I think this is a mail from your local domain to one outside domain right?[21:09:48] <Ramattack> yep[21:09:55] <Ramattack> no no[21:09:57] <Kalavera> and your problem is deliver mail to your local account from outside[21:10:00] <Ramattack> I'm handling several domains[21:10:03] <Ramattack> no no[21:10:04] <Kalavera> ok[21:10:08] <Kalavera> this is one of them?[21:10:12] <Ramattack> are virtual users[21:10:23] <Kalavera> I know[21:10:24] <Ramattack> yes any localdomain is not properly delivered from postfix[21:10:41] <Kalavera> grep BBB9F1AB47D: /var/log/loqueseaquetengas[21:10:53] <Kalavera> paste on pastebin[21:11:29] *** pitakill_ has joined #postfix[21:12:49] <Kalavera> Ramattack: select username,domain, maildir from mailbox where username like 'egoitz%';[21:12:52] <Ramattack> http://pastebin.com/m57b58ad1[21:13:03] <Kalavera> previously use vmail;[21:13:13] <Ramattack> sorry?[21:13:31] <Kalavera> do you store your virtual users on the database right?[21:13:42] <Kalavera> and you store in the maildir path too[21:14:21] <Ramattack> no...[21:14:27] <Ramattack> but before too didn't[21:14:30] <Ramattack> and worked[21:14:37] <Ramattack> I used this howto... is official[21:14:47] <Ramattack> http://www.howtoforge.com/virtual_users_and_domains_with_postfix_debian_etch_p2[21:14:50] <Ramattack> and worked[21:15:02] <Kalavera> Ramattack: execute this query on you mysql database[21:15:09] <Kalavera> and paste the line[21:16:11] <Kalavera> virtual_mailbox_maps = proxy:mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_mailboxes.cf <- Ramattack you are storing virtual users on the mysql database[21:16:33] <Kalavera> Ramattack: select username,domain, maildir from mailbox where username like 'egoitz%'; <- in order to know if the maildir path on the database is ok[21:17:49] <rob0> I *can*, however, tell you how to set this up without maildrop.[21:17:59] <rob0> !virtual_mailbox_base[21:17:59] <knoba> rob0: "virtual_mailbox_base" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: A prefix that the virtual(8) delivery agent prepends to all pathname results from $virtual_mailbox_maps table lookups. This is a safety measure to ensure that an out of control map doesn't litter the filesystem with mailboxes. While virtual_mailbox_base could be set to "/", this setting isn't recommended.[21:18:04] <rob0> !virtual_mailbox_maps[21:18:04] <knoba> rob0: "virtual_mailbox_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup tables with all valid addresses in the domains that match $virtual_mailbox_domains.[21:18:37] <rob0> those two settings combined would give you the path to any virtual(8) mailbox.[21:18:52] <Kalavera> Ramattack: r u theer[21:19:01] <rob0> You'd have to remove the "virtual_transport" line.[21:19:38] <rob0> (This assumes that your virtual_mailbox_maps query does indeed return a pathname.)[21:20:35] <Ramattack> one moment[21:20:49] <Kalavera> ok[21:21:38] *** sepski has quit IRC[21:21:57] <Kalavera> Ramattack: I have the same configuration of you but with gentoo :D[21:22:06] <Kalavera> not debian[21:23:57] <Ramattack> Kalavera, and worked for me before... but don't remember now... one moment mates I'm sshed to that machine[21:27:11] <Ramattack> but one question[21:27:27] <Ramattack> how could postfix know you mailbox path if it's not specified in mysql?[21:28:41] *** tarik has joined #postfix[21:29:52] <Ramattack> I know[21:29:58] <Ramattack> it's concatenated in one .cf[21:32:00] *** unixipher has quit IRC[21:32:24] *** djs_2_6 has quit IRC[21:34:40] <Ramattack> what damn in this world makes that when I add the line virtual_transport = maildrop all mail to be saved in damn /home/vmail/Maildir file... it's amazing!!!!!!!!!!![21:35:44] <Ramattack> if I stop using maildrop[21:35:47] <Ramattack> mail is delivered fine[21:37:45] <Ramattack> and if I use maildrop from command line mail goes fine too...[21:37:50] <Ramattack> no errors in syslog...[21:37:57] <Ramattack> where is the ghost.. lol :([21:42:09] <Kalavera> mm reading . . .[21:45:15] <Ramattack> he hehe wait a minute[21:45:19] *** lambda has quit IRC[21:45:21] <Ramattack> when I deliver as root works[21:45:26] <Ramattack> else... it doesn't....[21:45:27] <Ramattack> mmmmm[21:45:36] <Ramattack> authlib socket permissions???-..... mmmm lets check[21:47:52] *** higuita has quit IRC[21:48:47] *** cpm has quit IRC[21:53:44] <Ramattack> I think this was[21:53:51] <Ramattack> finding authlib socket[21:55:21] <rob0> It's less than amazing. It is what I have been telling you.[21:59:04] <rob0> Apparently your pipe(8) transport isn't running maildrop with the same parameters that you're using at the command line?[22:00:02] <the1d> perhaps some env-settings that make the difference?[22:01:35] <Kalavera> Ramattack: works?[22:01:51] <Kalavera> Ramattack: what do you have on maildroprc?[22:02:03] <Ramattack> the problem is permissions[22:02:06] <Ramattack> don't solved now[22:02:09] <Ramattack> but from root works[22:02:12] <Ramattack> from vmail not[22:02:18] <Kalavera> ok[22:02:18] <Ramattack> when you do su - vmail doesnt work[22:02:23] <Kalavera> Ramattack: what do you have on maildroprc?[22:03:35] <Ramattack> nothing[22:03:39] <Ramattack> everything commented[22:03:42] <Kalavera> nothing?[22:04:41] <Kalavera> in my case, I work with maildrop, maildir path is maildir path on mysql + a directory stored on maildroprc[22:04:51] <Kalavera> so, you need to have something like this :[22:05:08] <Kalavera> DEFAULT="$HOME/Maildir/"[22:05:16] *** pitakill_ has quit IRC[22:05:34] <Kalavera> when $HOME is the result of a sql query with :[22:05:45] <Kalavera> +----------------------------------------+[22:05:48] <Kalavera> | maildir |[22:05:49] <Kalavera> +----------------------------------------+[22:05:49] <Kalavera> | /home/vmail/rolando at miraflores dot gob.pe/ |[22:05:49] <Kalavera> +----------------------------------------+[22:05:49] <Kalavera> 1 row in set (0.00 sec)[22:05:59] *** pitakill_ has joined #postfix[22:06:21] <Kalavera> if you see /home/vmail/rolando at miraflores dot gob.pe/ + $HOME/Maildir/ = the right path[22:06:23] <Ramattack> nope it's not like mine...[22:06:28] <Ramattack> one moment please...[22:06:42] <Kalavera> ok[22:15:37] <Kalavera> so ?[22:17:35] <Ramattack> it's all a permission issue[22:17:41] <Ramattack> don't know where but a permission issue[22:17:50] <Ramattack> maildir is concatenated in one .cf file...[22:17:55] <Ramattack> when quering[22:17:59] <Kalavera> why do you think so ?[22:18:11] <Kalavera> show me[22:18:56] <Ramattack> because that's what exactly happened to me last time[22:19:01] <Ramattack> and because as root works[22:19:04] <Ramattack> and as su - vmail not[22:19:24] <Kalavera> any permission message on logs?[22:21:25] <Kalavera> what do you have on virtual_minimum_uid?[22:21:27] <Kalavera> and gid_?=[22:23:11] <Ramattack> one moment...[22:24:51] <Ramattack> sorry where?[22:25:06] <Kalavera> main.cf[22:25:25] <Kalavera> grep vmail /etc/passwd[22:26:31] <Ramattack> 5500[22:26:44] <Ramattack> and 5500 for group too[22:26:52] <Kalavera> ok[22:26:59] <Kalavera> and grep vmail /etc/passwd[22:27:22] <Ramattack> the issue is quite clear IMHO[22:27:26] <Ramattack> as root works[22:27:34] <Ramattack> as non root not... and appends mail to Maildir[22:27:50] <Ramattack> If I try to run as root from master.cf don't know why it doesn't work[22:27:54] <Ramattack> but it doesn't[22:28:05] <Ramattack> for something postfix sais...[22:29:00] <Ramattack> I'm newbie at postfix, I normally use qmail[22:29:57] <Ramattack> well or unless is what I have used till now[22:34:47] <Ramattack> Kalavera are you there?[22:35:18] *** megaTherion has quit IRC[22:38:01] <Ramattack> Kalavera, ???[22:38:26] <Ramattack> rob0, knoba get the solution!!!!!!!!!![22:39:52] <Ramattack> I have had to recompile maildrop package and compile it with the next in rules file[22:43:34] *** Zeit|awy_ has joined #postfix[22:44:07] *** pitakill_ has quit IRC[22:50:59] *** Zeit|awy has quit IRC[23:11:58] *** rcsu has joined #postfix[23:21:48] <Kalavera> Ramattack: yes[23:22:00] <Ramattack> solved :)[23:22:15] <Kalavera> Ramattack: what was the problem?[23:22:32] <Kalavera> and what was the solution ?[23:22:33] <Kalavera> :D[23:22:33] <Ramattack> at compile time of maildrop should say that params[23:22:39] <Ramattack> of course mate...[23:22:47] <Ramattack> few lines upper you have it :)[23:23:01] <Kalavera> DEFAULT blaaa?[23:23:58] <Ramattack> lol[23:24:01] <Ramattack> yep[23:24:12] <Kalavera> cool[23:24:17] <Kalavera> compilation problem[23:24:21] <Ramattack> take not of that... you need to insert that in my case in debian rules[23:24:29] <Ramattack> of maildrop package in debian etch[23:24:40] <Ramattack> and in maildrop package not courier-maildrop[23:24:59] <Kalavera> mm I use gentoo , I do something like : USE="mysql vmail" emerge postfix[23:25:00] <Ramattack> this enforces quotas even in imap when sending mails and go to send folder lol :) :) :) :)+[23:25:07] <Kalavera> and the package compile as well[23:25:20] <Ramattack> I'm debianner :p[23:26:41] <Kalavera> :D[23:26:48] <Ramattack> mate should go outside....[23:26:51] <Ramattack> thanks a lot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![23:27:00] <Ramattack> hasta luego... lol[23:27:45] *** Ramattack has quit IRC[23:32:23] *** joshim has left #postfix[23:35:21] *** klauwhamer has joined #postfix[23:38:49] *** klauwhamer has quit IRC[23:39:06] *** klauwhamer has joined #postfix[23:46:13] <Kalavera> hasta luego[23:50:07] *** havvg has joined #postfix[23:51:53] *** netcrash has quit IRC[23:58:53] *** ack_syn has quit IRC