November 21, 2007 
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http://www.spamhaus.org/zen/ : A composite of all Spamhaus DNSBLs: SBL, XBL and PBL[02:07:55] *** cafuego has quit IRC[02:08:25] <TapoutT> thanks rob0, added that :)[02:08:33] *** cafuego has joined #postfix[02:13:10] *** Lucky7 has quit IRC[02:19:54] *** adaptr has quit IRC[02:20:06] *** adaptr has joined #postfix[02:23:36] <ikaro> :>[02:28:15] *** thumbs_ is now known as thumbs[02:30:18] *** nictuku has joined #postfix[02:47:06] *** vice-versa has joined #postfix[02:51:11] *** ack_syn has joined #postfix[02:59:06] *** duki has quit IRC[03:03:52] *** pirho has quit IRC[03:05:02] *** Tachy has joined #postfix[03:12:31] *** christopher__ has joined #postfix[03:15:27] *** Tachy_ has quit IRC[03:15:56] *** christopher__ is now known as christopher_s[03:23:21] *** mavez has joined #postfix[03:23:24] <mavez> yo yo[03:25:12] <nictuku> hi[03:25:40] <ack_syn> hy[03:27:38] <mavez> has anyone ever got saslauthd and postfix to work[03:28:25] <ack_syn> for sure has[03:28:26] <nictuku> sure[03:28:35] <adaptr> sure[03:28:36] <ack_syn> I use cyrus[03:28:46] <ack_syn> cyrus + patch[03:28:48] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[03:29:24] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[03:29:33] <mavez> i've followed all the tutorials nothing seems to work[03:29:57] <mavez> on my server i test with testsaslauthd -u -p[03:30:02] <mavez> and it says OK Success[03:30:17] <mavez> but from remote host it just fails[03:32:52] <mavez> am gonna try that dovecot[04:02:06] *** githogori has quit IRC[04:12:42] *** vice-versa has quit IRC[04:13:54] *** Martz has joined #postfix[04:15:52] *** klauwhamer has quit IRC[04:16:05] *** joshim has joined #postfix[04:16:05] *** GuHHH has quit IRC[04:21:51] *** amrit|wrk is now known as amrit|bbl[04:32:35] *** w0rd54 has quit IRC[04:33:51] *** bhagat has joined #postfix[04:36:49] *** Motoko-chan has joined #postfix[04:37:00] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[04:37:33] *** w0rd54 has joined #postfix[04:38:01] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[04:40:44] *** arcleaf has joined 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cj_sze27 has joined #postfix[07:46:09] *** cj_sze27 has quit IRC[07:46:22] *** cj_sze27 has joined #postfix[07:49:23] *** cj_sze27 has quit IRC[07:49:40] *** cj_sze27 has joined #postfix[07:51:07] *** cj_sze27 is now known as narutu[07:52:03] *** narutu has quit IRC[07:54:48] *** cj_sze27 has joined #postfix[07:56:35] <arcleaf> ermss, any idea why i'm getting this kind of error "unknown transport error" when i recieved email ?[07:56:56] *** cj_sze27 has quit IRC[07:57:01] <arcleaf> recieve email to multiple account at the same time ?[07:57:33] <keanne> check your transport mapping[07:58:31] <arcleaf> fafafaf.com dst-orig:[07:58:36] <arcleaf> inside my transport[07:59:07] <arcleaf> transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/transport[07:59:13] <arcleaf> i will getting this error[07:59:24] <arcleaf> for certain user[07:59:57] <arcleaf> because some user have function to forward sms alert to their mobile phone.[08:00:14] <keanne> dst-orig: ?[08:00:31] <arcleaf> it only happen to account who activated sms alert.[08:00:32] <arcleaf> yup[08:04:26] <arcleaf> any idea ?[08:14:23] *** [a]freebsd_fan has joined #postfix[08:15:05] *** [a]freebsd_fan has quit IRC[08:18:28] *** Tinozaure is now known as Tino[08:25:50] *** fiftycal has joined #postfix[08:33:01] *** Motoko-chan has quit IRC[08:45:02] *** Jax has joined #postfix[08:45:43] *** Edward123 has quit IRC[08:50:07] *** fiftycal has quit IRC[08:52:22] *** phnord has joined #postfix[09:01:52] *** oates|zzzZ is now known as oates|AFK[09:10:19] *** confound has quit IRC[09:10:38] *** confound has joined #postfix[09:12:59] *** milligan has quit IRC[09:14:25] *** ^Willie^Laptop has joined #postfix[09:14:33] *** unixipher has quit IRC[09:14:34] <^Willie^Laptop> join #windows[09:17:18] *** unixipher has joined #postfix[09:21:19] *** harobed has joined #postfix[09:25:10] *** cutmasta has joined #postfix[09:27:38] <keanne> arcleaf, what is dst-orig?[09:27:59] <arcleaf> maildrop[09:28:21] <arcleaf> i'm sure there is no problem with transport map[09:30:35] *** amrit is now known as amrit|zzz[09:37:05] *** _bugz_ has joined #postfix[09:37:26] *** adam33 has joined #postfix[09:38:06] *** smtpsslproblem has joined #postfix[09:39:34] <smtpsslproblem> Hey I'm trying to learn whats going on.. I get this from the maillog: Nov 21 03:20:16 smtp postfix/smtpd[134]: SSL_accept error from localhost[86.58.155.71]: -1 \ Nov 21 03:20:16 smtp postfix/smtpd[134]: warning: TLS library problem: 134:error:140760FC:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_CLIENT_HELLO:unknown protocol:/usr/src/secure/lib/libssl/../../../crypto/openssl/ssl/s23_srvr.c:580: - and I wonder, is "TLS Library problem: 134" a pos[09:41:10] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[09:43:20] <keanne> arcleaf, postfix is saying that there is[09:43:53] <arcleaf> ok[09:43:58] <arcleaf> i'm using maildrop[09:44:02] <arcleaf> i notice[09:44:36] <arcleaf> i will get this error if i recieve email to multiple account.[09:44:39] <arcleaf> for example[09:44:54] <arcleaf> my email account is bababa at bababa dot com[09:45:31] <arcleaf> and i activated sms alert for any incoming email for my account. all alert will be sent to bababa at sms dot bababa.com[09:45:45] <arcleaf> and i will get this error[09:45:58] <^Willie^Laptop> someone here who use clamav in production area`s with postfix ?[09:46:05] <arcleaf> me[09:46:21] <arcleaf> i'm using it for ISP datacenter at brunei[09:46:22] <^Willie^Laptop> i did setup an test machine to fix a new postfix conf ..[09:46:32] <^Willie^Laptop> we host some adobe stuff :)[09:46:57] <arcleaf> ohh[09:47:11] <^Willie^Laptop> but someone ask me to try a milter setup .. clamav and postgrey greylisting before que ..[09:47:49] <^Willie^Laptop> i have that working postgrey results in 70% less spam pass true .. and clamav scans before accepting the email when it contains a virus it send a 5xx back ..[09:48:08] *** canatella has joined #postfix[09:48:11] <mavez> !seen smesjz[09:48:11] <knoba> mavez: smesjz was last seen in #postfix 6 weeks, 5 days, 16 hours, 1 minute, and 38 seconds ago: <smesjz> unixtippse: consider yourself slapped[09:48:12] <canatella> hello[09:48:15] <mavez> lol[09:48:19] <^Willie^Laptop> now i ask my self if an p3 700mhz 512mb system need 2 sec to scan the eicar signature .. what happend if someone deliver 2500 emails ..[09:48:22] <mavez> man 6 weeks ago[09:48:49] <^Willie^Laptop> the production mail server is an dual 3ghz xeon system with 2G ram :)[09:49:03] <^Willie^Laptop> 1 guess clam will scan faster on that server[09:49:34] <arcleaf> ermss[09:50:06] <canatella> I want to send all my virtual domains mails to a command, is there a way to do that ?[09:50:23] <^Willie^Laptop> arcleaf: do you understand my point ?[09:50:34] <canatella> I see that in aliases I can do a @foo.com |command[09:50:43] <arcleaf> yup[09:50:48] <canatella> but I would like to be able to do the same command for every domain[09:51:02] <arcleaf> i'm not sure about that[09:51:13] <arcleaf> but you can try a stress test[09:51:55] <arcleaf> with smtp-source[09:52:34] <arcleaf> put a attachment with eicar[09:52:51] <^Willie^Laptop> or let my php sendmail script loop 1500 times :)[09:53:04] <arcleaf> ./smtp-source -s 20 -l 5120 -m 1000 -c \[09:53:28] <arcleaf> time ./smtp-source -s 20 -l 5120 -m 1000 -c \[09:53:29] <^Willie^Laptop> some mailing lists send 2500 emails away at once :S[09:54:24] <arcleaf> yup u can try[09:55:01] <arcleaf> i found something where u can speed up clamav with ramdisk[09:55:57] <^Willie^Laptop> i`m thinking ..[09:56:21] <^Willie^Laptop> leave the setup like it is now .. postfix will need clamav to function normal else it is not accepting email at all ..[09:56:37] <^Willie^Laptop> or let it accept everything and just drop those emails with some sort of virus ..[10:00:43] *** unixipher has quit IRC[10:01:25] *** war has joined #postfix[10:04:13] *** pythonic has joined #postfix[10:04:36] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[10:06:40] *** tris has joined #postfix[10:07:36] *** unixipher has joined #postfix[10:12:28] <Jax> hey guys, i'm turning off my postfix server but still have a webserver on that box with some php scripts using php's mail() function (which calls sendmail locally). how can i tell sendmail not to try sending through the local smtp anymore, but another one? i think the defaults for sendmail are in /etc/postfix/main.cf if you have postfix installed.[10:14:57] <sysmonk> Jax: you can't. you have to use other function of mail() to do that, or you should tell postfix to not accept any connections, and only send email[10:15:42] <Jax> hm the latter sounds reasonable?[10:17:08] <sysmonk> change the inet_interfaces[10:18:33] <keanne> Jax, or set the relayhost of that postfix to the new smtp server that you will be using[10:19:43] <sysmonk> keanne: yes, but that won't work if postfix won't be up[10:21:42] <keanne> and just using postfix's sendmail binary will?[10:24:22] <sysmonk> not really[10:24:25] <sysmonk> until postfix will be up[10:26:10] <keanne> unless that php is windoze based, postfix will always be needing to be active. i wonder why windows php can use external smtp while on *nix it supports sendmail[10:26:47] <Jax> yeah was wondering that too...[10:26:55] <Jax> i'll just install some other smtp.. like ssmtp[10:27:11] <Jax> and then turn off postfix and setup ssmtp to send to my new mail server[10:27:31] <Jax> with ssmtp you can just set: mailhub=my.new.mx[10:27:49] <Jax> then i just set the old mail server in my_networks so it trusts it without SASL auth.[10:32:11] <^Willie^Laptop> PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND[10:32:14] <^Willie^Laptop> 5355 root 25 0 1864 280 232 R 100 0.0 83273:26 saslauthd[10:32:19] *** tarik has joined #postfix[10:33:45] <^Willie^Laptop> CPU3: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.00GHz stepping 0a[10:33:46] <^Willie^Laptop> Total of 4 processors activated (23945.98 BogoMIPS).[10:33:54] <^Willie^Laptop> .. uuhhmm saslauth ..[10:35:15] *** arcleaf has quit IRC[10:40:03] <R1ck> ^Willie^Laptop: sweet[10:41:07] <^Willie^Laptop> restarted saslauthd[10:41:49] *** tehmaze has joined #postfix[10:41:52] <tehmaze> hello[10:42:07] <tehmaze> how can I deliver to a pipe using addresses in virtual(5) ?[10:50:09] *** Edward123 has joined #postfix[10:52:13] *** prebur has quit IRC[10:53:14] *** benp- has quit IRC[10:53:25] *** benp- has joined #postfix[10:53:50] *** knoba has quit IRC[10:54:00] *** knoba has joined #postfix[11:02:19] *** arcleaf has joined #postfix[11:05:56] *** cilly has joined #postfix[11:08:22] *** solar__ has joined #postfix[11:08:23] <solar__> hi all[11:08:36] <solar__> any suggestion for a good book on certificates for ssl tsl[11:09:32] <canatella> tehmaze: I'm trying to do the same thing. I've added a line to master.cf to define a pipe command and I use the virtual_transport parameter[11:09:56] <tehmaze> well you can't, you need a virtual pair redirecting to a local alias, and then add the pipe in your aliases file[11:10:18] <tehmaze> virtual(5) doesn't seem to accept pipes as a recipient[11:10:48] *** deskdevil has left #postfix[11:11:31] *** Zeit|awy has joined #postfix[11:11:38] <canatella> tehmaze: here I am redirectering all virtual mail traffic to a command... don't know if this is good for you ...[11:11:58] <tehmaze> how?[11:11:58] <canatella> tehmaze: but you might the chose which transport to use by using a transport maps[11:12:12] <canatella> tehmaze: have a look at http://wiki.rubyonrails.org/rails/pages/HowToReceiveEmailsWithActionMailer[11:12:26] *** ming_zym has left #postfix[11:12:43] *** diabel- has quit IRC[11:13:13] <tehmaze> ah right, by using an entry in aliases(5)[11:13:39] *** diabel has joined #postfix[11:15:30] <canatella> tehmaze: no, you should scroll down. Using a command in aliases for virtual aliases does not work[11:15:47] <canatella> have a look at the paragraph titled Configuring Postfix to Handle All Mail for a Domain[11:16:08] <tehmaze> yes I see[11:16:29] *** Gibbonz has joined #postfix[11:17:23] <tehmaze> but this is completely useless for mixed domains, both having 'normal' aliases and maillist for example[11:19:59] <canatella> tehmaze: yes :/[11:20:11] <canatella> I don't know why the |command thing is not working with virtual aliases[11:20:38] <tehmaze> works great though if you create a subdomain for it[11:20:39] <tehmaze> (:[11:24:15] *** cilly has quit IRC[11:24:52] *** Zeit|awy_ has quit IRC[11:35:05] *** Mr_Alex has joined #postfix[11:41:42] <f3ew> canatella, see man 8 virtual[11:49:13] *** hans__ has joined #postfix[11:51:02] <hans__> hi, i've got a mail server (server1) and another server (server2), both behind a nat router. when (server 2) sends an email to an address at (server 1), the logs say that the mail is deferred and connection times out when trying to connect that (server 1)'s public ip address.[11:51:19] <hans__> I tried adding (server 1)'s internal ip address in the hosts file[11:51:28] <hans__> but it still tries to route to its public ip address[11:52:45] <hans__> how would i configure the main.cf file to route with an internal ip address for that particular server (mail.bla.com)?[11:55:55] <hans__> ideas appreciated[12:03:27] *** pitakill has quit IRC[12:07:50] *** unixipher has quit IRC[12:09:34] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[12:09:50] *** Mr_Alex has quit IRC[12:09:55] <f3ew> hans__ transport_maps[12:16:03] *** xmaster has joined #postfix[12:19:17] *** arcleaf has quit IRC[12:25:59] <hans__> thanks, i'll google that[12:27:31] *** Gibbonz has quit IRC[12:47:13] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[12:48:24] *** Tino has quit IRC[12:57:49] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[12:58:37] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[12:58:59] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[12:59:44] *** bhagat has quit IRC[12:59:50] *** UQlev has quit IRC[13:00:27] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[13:01:06] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[13:03:16] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[13:03:48] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[13:05:09] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[13:09:12] *** DrkShdw has joined #postfix[13:09:16] *** rob0_ has quit IRC[13:11:45] *** cpm has joined #postfix[13:17:29] *** rob0_ has joined #postfix[13:17:47] <cpm> imposter![13:20:59] <f3ew> hey cpm[13:21:06] <cpm> morn'n f3ew[13:21:12] <cpm> hey, hows that laptop?[13:21:36] <f3ew> good[13:24:29] *** jpalmer has quit IRC[13:24:55] *** Predominant has quit IRC[13:28:32] *** Mavvie has quit IRC[13:29:00] *** Mavvie has joined #postfix[13:30:48] <cpm> cool[13:31:00] *** tris has quit IRC[13:31:07] <f3ew> not really ;)[13:31:13] *** tris has joined #postfix[13:31:23] <f3ew> Think of it as a small form factor workstation instead of a laptop[13:31:43] *** ramoni has joined #postfix[13:32:18] <cpm> heh[13:32:33] <cpm> it's working out well for you though, that's cool[13:32:44] <f3ew> It works[13:32:56] <cpm> Ifinally bought a new laptop, and promptly gave it away.[13:33:15] <f3ew> oh?[13:33:49] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[13:35:00] <cpm> Yeah, just as I finally 'bit the bullet' and ordered it, buddy'o'mine's son -a sortof protege` got notice that he was accepted to a very good school in comp/sci,[13:35:10] <f3ew> ah[13:35:31] <cpm> so, I couldn't let him go off to first year with a used dell[13:36:44] *** lucas has joined #postfix[13:37:35] <cpm> i really wanted that laptop, I'd been saving up for it for almost 2 years. :)[13:37:37] <R1ck> i luv my new laptop[13:38:22] <lucas> hey. I've setup postfix to deliver email to virtual mailbox domains. works nice. now I'm trying to get it to forward mail to mailman. however, when I send an email to lucas at lists dot mydomain.com, postfix sees that email as being to lucas at mydomain dot com.[13:38:48] <lucas> which I believe is the reason for postfix not forwarding the message to mailman. (since that happens only for messages * at lists dot mydomain.com).[13:39:00] <lucas> anybody got a clue what might be causing this?[13:40:09] *** duki has joined #postfix[13:40:30] *** theblackbox has joined #postfix[13:43:34] *** Zeit|awy has quit IRC[13:44:14] <cpm> you don't have a transport set for lists.domain.com perhaps?[13:44:29] <cpm> you don't have an alias for lucas[13:44:38] <cpm> all kinds of things I can think of[13:49:10] *** ramoni has left #postfix[13:49:21] <lucas> cpm: I have a transport, but no alias. looking at your reply, I guess I should look for the problem there then.[13:49:50] <cpm> http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/node13.html[13:50:00] <cpm> this is probably mostly a mailman question[13:51:29] <lucas> cpm: thanks. I assumed since I sent to nam at subdomain dot domain.com, and the email got processed as name at domain dot com, it was something postfix was doing.[13:52:24] <cpm> not a bad assumption[13:53:35] <lucas> guess I'm off to #mailman then :)[13:53:56] *** cpm_ has joined #postfix[13:54:46] <lucas> btw, do I also need an alias if I setup postfix with virtual mailbox domains? As I understood things, that approach does not use aliases.[13:56:20] *** Jax has quit IRC[13:56:49] *** cpm_ has quit IRC[14:24:00] <rob0> impostor![14:24:19] *** tehmaze_ has joined #postfix[14:24:33] *** tehmaze has quit IRC[14:24:44] *** tehmaze_ is now known as tehmaze[14:29:33] <roe_> I am relaying for domain 'a'. Is there any easy way to have all subdomains of 'a' also relay to the same place?[14:35:28] <R1ck> you could try adding a MX record on *.domain.com.. but I dont know if thats gonna work :)[14:36:19] *** DrkShdw is now known as jpalmer[14:36:23] *** roe_ has quit IRC[14:36:40] *** roe has joined #postfix[14:38:52] *** lambda_ has joined #postfix[14:39:38] *** lambda_ is now known as lambda[14:40:37] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[14:42:59] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[14:47:07] *** Tino has joined #postfix[14:47:17] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[14:47:24] <solar__> when using a relay , what is the setting to chaneg the from and the return path to the relay address and not use the local machines name and domain[14:50:50] *** DaedalusvX has joined #postfix[14:52:02] <DaedalusvX> Okay, so I'm attempting to get postfix + cyrus sasl2 working on 10.4.11 OS X using macports.[14:52:23] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[14:52:26] <tehmaze> wildcard MX records should work[14:52:46] <DaedalusvX> I'm using a relayhost and smtp auth[14:52:53] <DaedalusvX> now, I've checked my postfix config on two ubuntu servers and both of them work fine[14:53:06] <DaedalusvX> they find cyrus's mechanisms just fine and connect[14:53:14] <DaedalusvX> so I know main.cf is right[14:53:39] <tehmaze> R1ck, he meant relay transports btw, relay_transport = .some.domain smtp[...] will also accept subdomains[14:53:55] <DaedalusvX> but on OS X, it won't recognize the mechanisms I have installed w/ macports. and cyrus was installed as a build dependency for postfix[14:54:04] <DaedalusvX> and I check the lib dir[14:54:07] <rob0> Client auth and server auth are totally separate matters, controlled by different (but similar looking!) settings.[14:54:28] <DaedalusvX> and all of the mechanisms are represented[14:54:35] <rob0> postconf -A # client[14:54:40] <DaedalusvX> libplain.a, etc[14:54:41] <rob0> postconf -a # server[14:55:00] * cpm auths rob0[14:55:08] <smtpsslproblem> m>Hey I'm trying to learn whats going on.. I get this from the maillog: Nov 21 03:20:16 smtp postfix/smtpd[134]: SSL_accept error from localhost[86.58.155.71]: -1 \ Nov 21 03:20:16 smtp postfix/smtpd[134]: warning: TLS library problem: 134:error:140760FC:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_CLIENT_HELLO:unknown protocol:/usr/src/secure/lib/libssl/../../../crypto/openssl/ssl/s23_srvr.c:580: - and I wonder, is "TLS Library problem: 134" a p[14:55:09] <rob0> solar__: normally the client software (MUA) sets the sender address.[14:55:40] <DaedalusvX> any ideas or has anyone gotten postfix with relayhost & smtp working from macports?[14:56:00] <rob0> If you are going to ask questions, be READING the channel.[14:56:31] <thumbs> ...topic[14:56:43] <DaedalusvX> k, sec[14:57:27] <solar__> rob0: so postfix should do that automatically ?[14:58:01] <rob0> grrrrrrrrrrrr[14:58:16] <smtpsslproblem> robanyone have an idea what this TLS library problem :SSL23_GET_CLIENT_HELLO:unknown protocol is about?[14:58:47] * cpm smells outlook[14:58:56] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[14:59:15] <rob0> Look at the name resolution: "localhost[86.58.155.71]"[14:59:22] <cpm> wow![14:59:35] <DaedalusvX> http://pastebin.com/m1b75268[14:59:48] <smtpsslproblem> I get it everytime I try to test "telnet host 465 + EHLO test.com it works fine when I do the same with 'telnet host 25 + EHLO test.com + STARTTLS' so it seems[15:00:41] <rob0> "man s_client"[15:00:41] <smtpsslproblem> rob0: yes, for the record, its a freebsd6.2 jail, postfix, dovecot installation.[15:01:18] <DaedalusvX> http://pastebin.com/m3e320db1[15:01:30] <smtpsslproblem> thanks, I'll be reading the man page now.. anything in particular to look for?[15:01:57] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[15:02:26] <DaedalusvX> any ideas?[15:02:39] <rob0> Simply that telnet(1) cannot do SSL/TLS. You're testing with the wrong app. Of course you get errors![15:03:37] *** eikke_ has joined #postfix[15:04:12] <smtpsslproblem> rob0: ok figured that would be something, learned the telnet test example from a guide.[15:07:32] <smtpsslproblem> rob0: the 'user' problem in my case is that when using the installation with roundcube webmail, the browser is "hanging" in the "sending message" dialogue when composing/sending a message. the message does get sent though. any experience with postfix,dovecot,roundcube anyone?[15:09:16] *** magyar has joined #postfix[15:09:33] <rob0> ISTM that using SSL/TLS on a loopback interface is rather pointless. Who's going to sniff that traffic? If anyone can, you have huge problems.[15:10:20] * sysmonk pwns rob0 box and sniffs his loopback interface[15:10:31] *** havvg has joined #postfix[15:10:49] * sysmonk runs a ./ryly_ryly_ryly_kewl_DDos -h 127.0.0.1[15:10:52] <rob0> oooooOOOOOOOOoooooooooo[15:10:59] <sysmonk> your doomed![15:12:23] <rob0> Furthermore, a webmail interface on the same system as the Postfix server can use sendmail(1) submission, no networking required, just good old-fashioned stdin.[15:12:57] <sysmonk> yeah, just the pickup(8)[15:13:39] <sysmonk> which is one of the ways to delimit the incoming and outgoing traffic[15:14:57] *** eikke has quit IRC[15:15:11] *** eikke_ is now known as eikke[15:16:03] <smtpsslproblem> rob0: I agree, replace localhost with a public address and it makes more sense.[15:17:16] <smtpsslproblem> rob0: thats an idea. yet I'm at first just trying to learn and not really that experienced. so I'm trying to figure out a working solution first, and then when I have something to compare with, I can work out better solutions having a reference.[15:19:20] <rob0> Dovecot can be set to require SSL, but it will not enforce that on loopback.[15:19:54] <smtpsslproblem> rob0: and whats more, there is something about freebsd jail and when connecting to ports from localhost it recognizes it as the connection coming from the external interface.[15:23:33] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[15:27:47] *** PhilKC has joined #Postfix[15:28:04] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[15:28:52] * cpm forces rob0 on loopback[15:30:24] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[15:30:41] *** mark-use has joined #postfix[15:31:28] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[15:33:13] *** DaedalusvX has left #postfix[15:38:16] *** prebur has joined #postfix[15:43:06] *** Jax has joined #postfix[15:43:38] <Jax> hm, when people use POP3 to download their mails but have the option "Keep copy on server" how does the client know not to download it twice?[15:44:53] *** PhilKC has quit IRC[15:49:57] *** Lap_64 has quit IRC[15:53:08] *** Jax has quit IRC[15:53:30] *** solar_ant has quit IRC[15:58:39] *** magyar has quit IRC[16:02:12] *** duki is now known as santos[16:02:20] *** santos is now known as santoos[16:02:23] *** mark-use has quit IRC[16:02:41] *** santoos is now known as duki[16:02:52] *** duki has quit IRC[16:02:59] *** duki has joined #postfix[16:11:51] *** rootsvr has joined #postfix[16:12:46] *** havvg_ has joined #postfix[16:13:17] *** tarik has quit IRC[16:13:55] *** mordaunt has joined #postfix[16:14:01] <mordaunt> can hold be a transport?[16:14:20] *** tarik has joined #postfix[16:14:37] <mordaunt> basically i want to hold stuff going to a catchall there's a huge amount of spam coming into it[16:16:54] <f3ew> mordaunt, yes[16:17:40] <mordaunt> yay =D[16:18:37] *** adam33 has quit IRC[16:20:36] *** xmaster has left #postfix[16:27:08] *** havvg has quit IRC[16:32:46] *** m_g has joined #postfix[16:32:53] <m_g> hey again guys[16:35:47] <R1ck> ello[16:39:17] *** dogwater has joined #postfix[16:39:55] <dogwater> Hi, in postfix 2 what is the best way to send mail to all users? I created a list of the local users using /etc/passwd and made a map using postalias but how do I append that to my aliases file?[16:44:01] *** kokoko1 has joined #postfix[16:44:04] <kokoko1> hi guys[16:44:43] <kokoko1> how to tell postfix to forward all emails to another host?[16:45:33] *** af_ has joined #postfix[16:45:35] <Roobarb-Work> relayhost = x.x.x.x[16:45:39] <kokoko1> actually we are in the middle of changing host but do not want to lose emails[16:46:37] <kokoko1> Roobarb-Work, this will take care of all incoming emails?[16:46:58] <Roobarb-Work> no, but thats not quite what you asked for[16:47:10] <kokoko1> Roobarb-Work, oh sorry[16:47:17] <Roobarb-Work> what are you actually trying to achieve ?[16:47:27] <dogwater> kokoko1: most likely what you want to do is point your mx record in dns at another host[16:47:33] <dogwater> but thats not really relevant here[16:47:44] <dogwater> does anyone know if you can use include: in /etc/aliases ?[16:47:58] <Roobarb-Work> dogwater: not that I know of[16:48:07] <dogwater> damn sendmail for making me lazy[16:48:54] <kokoko1> Roobarb-Work, actaully i am confuse[16:49:21] <kokoko1> i am migrating our RT services from one host to another.[16:49:27] <kokoko1> everythign tested.[16:49:28] <dogwater> Roobarb-Work: so i generated this alias using the contents of /etc/password called ChristmasList: and it has usernames one per line... right..[16:49:36] <dogwater> sorry /etc/passwd[16:50:03] <kokoko1> now i am looking how to tranaprently migrate services to new hosts.[16:50:04] <dogwater> i'm trying to figure out how I can get that to into the configuration do I just copy/paste that into /etc/aliases and then do newalias[16:51:13] <Roobarb-Work> dogmeat: man (5) aliases, and look for the :include: syntax[16:51:18] <kokoko1> if i change the MX it will surely loose lot of emails.[16:51:33] <Roobarb-Work> kokoko1: how?[16:51:42] <dogwater> not if the old server delivers the mail to the new server[16:51:58] <Roobarb-Work> or of the old server is simply not listening on port 25[16:52:44] <kokoko1> right, i so i go and change mx so that it points to new servers.[16:52:55] <kokoko1> and how to tell old server to forward emails to new server?[16:53:39] <kokoko1> Roobarb-Work, sorry for being dump[16:54:09] <kokoko1> Roobarb-Work, you suggesting that its safe to chang MXer but keeping both old, and new server live[16:54:36] <kokoko1> how to tell postfix at old server to forward all emails to new server? :-s[16:54:42] <kokoko1> still relayhost?[16:55:01] <kokoko1> but i thinks releyhost for outgoing emails.[16:56:16] <Roobarb-Work> kokoko1: personally, I'd shutdown postfix on the old box, start it on the new one then change the MX.[16:56:37] <Roobarb-Work> that way mail will either be defered (on remote servers) or delivered to the new box.[16:57:40] <kokoko1> Roobarb-Work, actaully i want to minimze the delay, so that all emails go to new server withotu being deferred at remote servers[16:59:13] <Roobarb-Work> then you need to drop the TTL of your domain to ~5 mins then wait for however long the current TTL is before doing anything.[17:00:03] <kokoko1> Roobarb-Work, current TTL is 1200s[17:00:10] <kokoko1> 20m[17:00:13] <cpm> they won't be delayed long.[17:00:34] <cpm> well, the longer you wait to switch over, the longer it will take to happen, so just do it.[17:02:06] *** cutmasta has quit IRC[17:03:22] *** coolblade has quit IRC[17:03:43] <kokoko1> right i have changed TTL to 300s[17:03:50] *** felix_da_catz has joined #postfix[17:03:54] <kokoko1> and now waiting it to expire[17:05:43] <kokoko1> cpm, when its expires i do the MXer change and then restore the old ttl?[17:07:37] *** af_ has quit IRC[17:08:14] <kokoko1> one more thing.[17:08:43] <kokoko1> is it possible to use the sqlgrey sqlite db from old box on new one?[17:09:10] <kokoko1> imean its safe to scp the sqlgrey db while sqlgrey is runing?[17:09:23] <kokoko1> don't want to end with corrupt db on new host :-s[17:11:02] <kokoko1> want to use it so that new host do not blacklist those which already been whilelisted (again minimize email delay :0s)[17:11:18] *** sepski has joined #postfix[17:12:32] <kokoko1> /var/lib/sqlgrey/sqlgrey.db safe to copy it while sqlgrey is running?[17:12:41] * kokoko1 ponders[17:12:52] *** j_s has joined #postfix[17:14:31] *** korozion has joined #postfix[17:14:39] <korozion> how to I increase the file size limit in postfix?[17:15:26] <jduggan_> mailbox_size_limit =[17:15:31] <korozion> d'oh heh[17:15:32] <korozion> thanks :)[17:15:33] <jduggan_> ooh[17:15:34] *** stony has joined #postfix[17:15:35] <jduggan_> maybe not[17:15:36] <jduggan_> sec[17:15:41] <jduggan_> nah[17:15:46] <jduggan_> message_size_limit[17:15:47] <jduggan_> duh :)[17:15:50] <cpm> message_size_limit[17:16:00] <korozion> thanks[17:16:05] <stony> hi[17:16:37] *** duki has quit IRC[17:17:39] *** duki has joined #postfix[17:17:54] *** ^Willie^Laptop has quit IRC[17:22:11] <korozion> how can I set the size limit unlimited?[17:22:23] <Dominian> that's a bad idea[17:22:30] <korozion> it's just temp for 10 mins[17:22:38] <Dominian> still a bad idea[17:22:43] <Dominian> If someone has something that big.. use ftp[17:22:48] <korozion> ok, I'll try somethign else :)[17:22:49] <korozion> thanks again[17:22:54] <rob0> I think mailbox_size_limit has to be at least 2x message_size_limit[17:23:43] * Dominian nods[17:23:53] <korozion> excellent, thanks all[17:23:54] <korozion> bbl[17:23:55] *** korozion has left #postfix[17:24:00] <Dominian> still a bad idea[17:26:39] *** Ryushin has joined #postfix[17:31:02] *** kryl has joined #postfix[17:31:03] <kryl> hi[17:32:25] <kryl> I want to flush my queue every 2d but when I check I find emails from 20/08 ![17:34:12] <kryl> is there a tool to flush the queue please?[17:35:36] *** githogori has quit IRC[17:39:56] *** solar_ant has joined #postfix[17:43:35] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[17:45:11] *** Spec has joined #postfix[17:45:14] *** brancaleone has joined #postfix[17:46:16] *** phnord has quit IRC[17:58:35] *** dragonheart has quit IRC[17:59:48] *** dragonheart has joined #postfix[18:00:22] *** harobed has quit IRC[18:08:53] *** hparker has joined #postfix[18:11:06] *** ramoni has joined #postfix[18:15:07] <cpm> kreg, man postsuper[18:15:24] <cpm> also, take a look at qshape[18:17:27] *** MikeD_ has joined #postfix[18:18:41] <MikeD_> i want postfix to accept and relay for a domain that is not a virtual host - how do I configure that?[18:19:34] <rob0> !address_classes[18:19:35] <knoba> rob0: "address_classes" : http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_CLASS_README.html describes how Postfix deals with different classes of addresses: local, relay, virtual alias, virtual mailbox, and Internet.[18:19:46] <rob0> MikeD_, see relay domain class[18:19:51] <MikeD_> thanks[18:20:47] *** ramoni has quit IRC[18:21:09] *** maharaja_ has quit IRC[18:21:47] *** dogwater has left #postfix[18:23:35] <hans__> postfix flush <- flushes thwe queue[18:24:18] <kreg> cpm: o[18:24:21] <kreg> cpm: k[18:24:38] *** Gibbonz has joined #postfix[18:25:08] *** rob0_ has quit IRC[18:27:02] <cpm> !rob0[18:27:03] <knoba> cpm: "rob0" : a bot that reacts to newly joined users with reciting the !basic factoid :)[18:28:42] *** brancaleone has quit IRC[18:37:19] *** duki has quit IRC[18:39:54] *** duki has joined #postfix[18:45:28] <kryl> how to be sure emails are purged from the mailqueue after 5 days ?[18:45:36] <kryl> (in spam case)[18:45:37] <kryl> please[18:46:04] <sepski> kryl, dont accept into your mailq things you can not deliver[18:46:28] <hans__> narf[18:46:36] <sepski> and having to rm mails from your queue is a sign you have something wrong earlier ![18:47:07] <kryl> sepski, I was locked by comcast.net ...[18:47:20] <kryl> and I fixe my mailqueue to be purged after 2 days[18:47:33] <kryl> but it appears I have emails since 1 or 2 month in this queue ![18:47:42] <adaptr> "locked" ? "purged" ?[18:47:47] <kryl> locked[18:47:52] <kryl> in deffered[18:48:07] *** rootsvr has quit IRC[18:48:12] <sepski> kryl, man postsuper for an example[18:48:13] <kryl> the reason is a lock from comcast[18:48:48] <adaptr> kryl I am not aware of that term[18:48:56] <adaptr> what was locked ?[18:49:03] <kryl> sorry[18:49:22] <kryl> comcast refuse emais from my server for spam reason (it's an automatic process)[18:49:37] <kryl> and so they stay in my queue more than 2 days ![18:49:40] <adaptr> okay, and you now want to re-send those ?[18:49:41] <kryl> and I don't understand why[18:49:51] <adaptr> because postfix tries again later[18:50:14] <kryl> yes but not more than 2 days ! I fix the config to purge the queue after 2d I don't understand why they stay there[18:50:31] <adaptr> you cannot configure postfix to do that[18:50:39] <adaptr> so I wonder what you did do[18:50:49] <cpm> they should expire after 5 days, that doesn't make sense[18:50:49] <kryl> bounce_queue_lifetime = 2d[18:50:49] <kryl> maximal_queue_lifetime = 2d[18:51:03] <kryl> in main.cf[18:51:07] <adaptr> yes, so they are *bounced*[18:51:14] <cpm> yup.[18:51:14] <adaptr> *purge* means delete without trace[18:51:18] <cpm> they should bounce.[18:51:21] <adaptr> and you can't and shouldn't[18:51:32] <kryl> so[18:51:37] * adaptr raises unibrow at cpm[18:51:37] <cpm> adaptr is absolutely correct.[18:51:41] <cpm> dont' do that![18:51:43] <adaptr> heh[18:51:44] <cpm> that freaks me out![18:51:49] <adaptr> scray , isn't it ?[18:51:53] <cpm> indeed[18:51:53] <adaptr> *scary, even[18:52:04] <cpm> I'm very sensitive[18:52:19] <adaptr> me too - I shudder whenever I see a woman that has one[18:52:23] <adaptr> it's unnatural![18:52:28] <kryl> :)[18:52:39] <adaptr> (in fact, it is of course very very natural - we just pretend it isn't)[18:52:46] <adaptr> I reject reality![18:53:00] <adaptr> 500 REJECT - this reality does not comply with my worldview[18:53:05] <kryl> question[18:53:10] <adaptr> statement![18:53:15] <adaptr> really :)[18:53:18] <kryl> what will be a good config to purge them after 2d ?[18:53:19] <jelly> counter-statement.[18:53:35] <adaptr> kryl as I said before, postfix should never do that[18:53:48] <adaptr> you need to define more precisely what you think "purge" means[18:54:02] <kryl> remove them from the server hardrive is my definition[18:54:07] <adaptr> yes[18:54:20] <adaptr> but when the mail is sent, they are also.. removed from the hard drive[18:54:26] <cpm> they should bounce when the queue lifetime is up.[18:54:41] <kryl> yes but if comcast block my emails they are not sent[18:54:46] <kryl> :-)[18:54:49] <kryl> that's the problem[18:54:52] <adaptr> kryl and ? that's what the queue is *for*[18:54:53] <cpm> so, they bounce[18:55:03] <hans__> hehe, its getting lively in here suddenly[18:55:10] <kryl> I don't understand[18:55:19] <adaptr> kryl that much is clear :)[18:55:39] <kryl> I can't believe comcast emails in my queue stay there for many years :)[18:55:57] <adaptr> kryl the sequence is as follows: postfix receives mail, it goes into the active queue, it tries to deliver, if it cannot, it goes into the deferred queue with a specific timeout[18:56:19] <adaptr> after that timeout, postfix tries once again to deliver, if it still fails, it is sent back to the deferred queue with a higher timeout[18:56:20] <kryl> ok what's the matter after the specific timeout ?[18:56:36] <kryl> ok what's the matter after the specific timeout in the deffered queue?[18:56:45] <adaptr> this continues until the mali is delivered or the maximal_queue_lifetime is reached[18:57:01] *** tarik has quit IRC[18:57:13] <kryl> maximal_queue_lifetime = 2d[18:57:20] <adaptr> when it is, the original mal is *bounced* - sender and recipient are inverted, a DSN is attached, and the mail is sent[18:57:23] <kryl> I have set maximal to 2d ![18:57:30] <adaptr> you're not *listening*[18:57:34] <kryl> sorry[18:58:12] <adaptr> it does not *matter* what you set it to - when that time is reached, the mail is sent back to its orginator address[18:58:25] <adaptr> which you can disable if you wish, but you really shouldn't[18:58:30] *** prebur102 has joined #postfix[18:58:47] <adaptr> because people kind of like to know that what they sent failed somewhere - more specifically, at your server[18:59:02] <kryl> it's ok[18:59:09] <adaptr> queued mail is not routinely deleted, ever[18:59:28] <kryl> but I don't understand why I have emails from august 2007 in the deffered queue ![18:59:55] <adaptr> because the deferred queue holds more than just messages that could not be delivered[19:00:17] <adaptr> it also holds frozen mail, which will stay indefinitely unless the administrator (that would be you) deals with them[19:00:22] <adaptr> mailq[19:00:42] <adaptr> read what it says, it gives the reason for the message being in the queue[19:01:17] <adaptr> postfix will stop sending mail to a server that does not accept mail for a prolonged (and configurable) amount of time[19:01:25] <adaptr> so these messages are put on *hold*[19:01:34] <adaptr> indefinitely, which is where you come in[19:02:01] <kryl> it's really more clear[19:02:02] <adaptr> this is 30-year-old tech, and implemented for very very good reasons[19:02:47] <cpm> and by and large shouldn't be implemented by folks who don't understand it.[19:05:07] <kryl> question to confirm ! if I have something like 600Mo of mails on hold it's sure the server don't use his capacity to try to send them again & again every days ?[19:05:20] <adaptr> yes, it is absolutely definite[19:05:49] <kryl> so I can delete them manually[19:06:02] <adaptr> you can easily see this in your mail logs, since re-sending 600MB every day would mean thousands and thousands of failures[19:06:21] <kryl> exact[19:06:24] <adaptr> kryl yes, you can - but that also removes all "normal" messages in th equeue[19:06:37] <kryl> adaptr, I hope to keep good ones :)[19:06:41] <adaptr> so first *flush* your queue, immediately followed by a postsuper -d ALL[19:06:53] <kryl> sendmail -q to flush ?[19:06:59] <adaptr> well, not immediately - until you have no more deferrals left[19:07:07] <adaptr> postqueue (or mailq) -f, rather[19:07:13] <kryl> ok[19:07:14] *** carl- has joined #postfix[19:07:16] <adaptr> man postqueue, man postsuper[19:07:19] <kryl> okok[19:07:31] <adaptr> the queue purge might take a minute or so :)[19:07:42] <kryl> and if I choose the config method to remove them after some days ?[19:07:46] <adaptr> or an hour, depending on the amount of messages and the speed of the machine[19:07:52] <kryl> for futur[19:07:59] <adaptr> kryl they WILL NOT BE REMOVED aaargh[19:08:02] <adaptr> sigh[19:08:05] <kryl> woops[19:08:08] <adaptr> over to you cpm[19:08:13] <adaptr> I gives up[19:08:19] <kryl> oh sorry[19:08:54] <kryl> it's ok :)[19:08:58] <kryl> just a test[19:09:18] <kryl> it's really clear now[19:09:25] <adaptr> "just a test" ?[19:09:33] <adaptr> that might just earn you an ignore, you know[19:10:22] <adaptr> my sense of humour is minimal after 8 hours of SQL braindamage following a 2-hour mail server revitalisation in the middle of the night[19:10:35] *** marc7 has joined #postfix[19:10:47] <kryl> sure I do the same from my side :-([19:11:00] * rob0 gives adaptr an emergency intervenous humor injection[19:11:03] <kryl> and apparently it's the same for the following night :-([19:11:15] <rob0> *humour[19:11:44] * rob0 enjoys the sight of the bloody needle[19:11:56] *** MikeD_ has left #postfix[19:12:01] * rob0 looks at cpm with an evil grin[19:12:26] <adaptr> don't scare him any further - I won't get a chance to test out my squint with unibrow![19:12:49] <adaptr> evil grin + squint + unibrow = disco[19:13:17] <kryl> I need a dictionnary at this point[19:14:31] *** rob0_ has joined #postfix[19:14:37] <adaptr> I wants a nunnnerry[19:15:04] *** prebur has quit IRC[19:25:36] *** hparker has quit IRC[19:30:58] *** hparker has joined #postfix[19:31:02] *** PhilKC has joined #Postfix[19:32:49] *** rootsvr has joined #postfix[19:36:05] *** row_ is now known as row[19:39:05] *** freq9 has joined #postfix[19:41:20] <freq9> Hi guys... I updated my os today (yum update; fedora c6) and now my postfix has no mysql support anymore. what i have to do now?[19:46:03][19:46:04] *** ramoni has joined #postfix[19:46:30] *** githogori has joined #postfix[19:46:45] <cpm> rebuild postfix[19:47:01] <cpm> take a note, production machines shouldn't get updated. security patches only.[19:47:15] <cpm> unless you are doing an upgrade[19:47:45] <freq9> yeah, my fault but now my postfix has no mysql-support[19:48:20] <cpm> and what do you expect us to do?[19:48:28] <cpm> you need to rebuild your mail server now.[19:48:58] <freq9> dont know how to rebuild my postfix... i installed it with yum but dont know how to get mysql support[19:49:00] <cpm> how have you determined that postfix no longer has mysql support?[19:49:07] <rob0> Or, ask for Fedora help (maybe they have a mysql-enabled build?)[19:49:48] <freq9> postfix/proxymap[20165]: fatal: unsupported dictionary type: mysql[19:50:03] <freq9> "postconf -m" contains no mysql[19:52:45] <freq9> i already had exactly the same error after initial install of postfix but it long time ago and i dont know how i fixed it.[19:53:38] <rob0> The generic answer is in MYSQL_README. The Fedora answer might be in Fedora documentation.[19:53:53] *** amrit|zzz is now known as amrit|wrk[19:55:59] <cpm> you'll need to get the source rpm, and rebuild it with mysql.[19:56:03] <freq9> MYSQL_README says mysql:/etc/... but my master.cf says proxy:mysql:/etc/...[19:56:39] <cpm> freq9, we didn't build your system, you did.[19:56:47] *** dragonheart has quit IRC[19:57:13][19:57:32] *** dragonheart has joined #postfix[19:59:18] <cpm> maybe you are lucky and there will be hints in your .bash_history[19:59:22] <rob0> Just pay attention to how to build it. If you build it, they will come.[19:59:41] *** ejovrh has quit IRC[19:59:43] <cpm> but the long and the short of it is, fedora doesn't ship a postfix with mysql support, so it would have had to be custom built. So, do again, what you did last time[19:59:55] *** ejovrh has joined #postfix[20:00:10][20:00:15] <cpm> and turn that yum update off for crying out loud[20:00:26] <cpm> LISTEN TO ME[20:00:34] <cpm> you need to rebuild your rpm with mysql support.[20:00:39] <cpm> just google the following[20:00:43] <cpm> Fedora Postfix Mysql[20:01:05] <adaptr> push a 6 in there too[20:01:29] <rob0> Fe6dora[20:01:38] <rob0> Post6fix[20:01:48] <rob0> My6sql[20:02:39] <adaptr> yes, try all of those[20:02:42] <adaptr> rob6, too[20:03:19] <rob0> You have a 6 sense of humor (humour.)[20:03:32] *** meandtheshell has joined #postfix[20:05:58] *** maniacxs has joined #postfix[20:10:25] <maniacxs> Hi, i am using dovecots sasl with a passwd-file [user|pass]db. in the passdb i have "user:{MD5}MD5-CRYPTPASSWORD::::". After changing passwords from {PLAIN} storage to what it is now i am not able anymore to login for sending emails. any ideas?[20:11:26] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[20:12:33] <cpm> adaptr, when googling fedora stuff, trying to nail it to a specific release only annoys the pig.[20:17:23] *** dragonheart has quit IRC[20:17:35] <adaptr> uh?[20:17:51] *** dragonheart has joined #postfix[20:19:18] <goo> I thought they shut down oink?[20:19:59] <goo> Then again, annoying dead pigs might have it's own value, same as kicking on a dead horse.[20:24:17] *** duki has quit IRC[20:24:36] *** duki has joined #postfix[20:26:20] *** m_g has quit IRC[20:26:49] *** mordaunt has left #postfix[20:33:07] *** Tino is now known as Tinozaure[20:33:41] *** theblackbox has quit IRC[20:35:28] *** `VL has joined #postfix[20:37:26] *** unixcoder has joined #postfix[20:38:38] <`VL> Hello. I`m using fetchmail to get my mail from different mailboxes in internet. Currently i simply put it to my local mailbox with maildrop. I`d like to perform antivirus scan on incoming mail. But all scanners have 'smtp interface'. I can inject letters from fetchmail to postfix, but i`m in doubt, what will hapen later...[20:39:38] <`VL> it should accept mail, which was originally sent to my boxes (in misc domains) and deliver it to local mailboxes (named by mail addresses) and perform av scan before..[20:39:52] <`VL> is that possible in any way? or i want something wrong?[20:45:01] <Signum> `VL: I'd say you should run amavis and make fetchmail deliver the emails to the amavis SMTP port. amavis in turn would then deliver the email to postfix which delivers it to the mailbox.[20:46:07] <Signum> `VL: Because the only content filter that I'd know which extract attachments and sends them to a virus scanner is amavis.[20:48:31] * `VL is reading...[20:49:13] *** freq9 has left #postfix[20:53:23] <`VL> i don`t see any trouble with av part, i just don`t understand how deliver will work (and configured) in postfix. Example: 2 addresses: xxx at yahoo dot com and yyy at hotmail dot com. Both fetchmail`ed and inserted to postfix. Where will it deliver to? I want postfix to deliver them to my local mailboxes, and all other mail to @yahoo.com and @hotmail.com to be deliverd normally[20:53:36] *** theblackbox has joined #postfix[20:55:08] <Signum> `VL: you can tell fetchmail where to deliver to. if you are vl@mybox then you can tell fetchmail "is vl@mybox here". it will be delivered to that user (RCPT TO in the SMTP dialog"[20:55:33] <Signum> `VL: in that case your fake domain would be defined in the main.cf as "mydestination=mybox"[20:55:56] <Signum> `VL: since neither yahoo.com nor hotmail.com (evil!) are listed as domains served by your postfix it will try to relay it to the internet[20:59:03] <kryl> bye all[20:59:06] <kryl> & good luck :)[20:59:06] *** kryl has left #postfix[21:00:42] <rob0> Thank you. I need all the luck I can get.[21:01:03] * cpm lends rob0 a little of his luck[21:01:18] <rob0> The "bad" kind, I bet.[21:01:35] *** ramoni has quit IRC[21:01:43] <cpm> now, why would you make that assumption?[21:02:07] <rob0> Okay, you're right.[21:02:10] <`VL> as i thought. thanks[21:02:14] * rob0 takes cpm's luck[21:02:40] <cpm> howz that work'n out for ya?[21:04:19] <rob0> hmmm[21:04:28] <rob0> not sure yet[21:05:07] <rob0> oh NO! Phone rang, they're foreclosing my mortgage. And I don't even have a mortgage![21:05:23] *** Tomek has joined #postfix[21:06:19] *** christopher_s has quit IRC[21:06:41] <cpm> well, there you are then[21:10:47] *** coolblade has joined #postfix[21:12:19] <coolblade> I am using gmail as my mail server but i want to setup a mail server just for my webapp to send out email to and not my users, can i setup postfix as a secondary mail server? Can you have your MXs in your dns point at two servers?[21:13:25] *** zez_zez has joined #postfix[21:13:26] *** Dominian has quit IRC[21:13:35] *** Dominian has joined #postfix[21:16:18] *** smtpsslproblem has left #postfix[21:16:18] *** smtpsslproblem has joined #postfix[21:18:07] *** tarik has joined #postfix[21:19:16] <smtpsslproblem> I have a postfix installation, where I'm currently testing some webmail clients. roundcube notifies me about space usage is 'over limit' + I can't send because it can not move to sent folder or trash and squirrelmail gives me a hard time when I'm trying to send saying that "Server responded: Quota exceeded". I believe that is not the case, so where do I check for these quota settings?[21:20:47] *** pitakill has quit IRC[21:27:28] <`VL> smtpsslproblem: regarding quota: you ever have filesystem-based quotas or some sort of 'virtual' (i used vda patch for postfix). if 1st - check filesystem where your boxes reside[21:27:52] *** rootsvr has quit IRC[21:27:57] <`VL> edquota command[21:28:31] *** Tomek has left #postfix[21:30:41] <smtpsslproblem> VL: I installed postfix in a jail on freebsd, I can't recollect defining any quotas for any users.[21:31:14] <smtpsslproblem> VL: how can I check to see if quotas are set?[21:33:36] <`VL> maybe this help[21:35:25] <smtpsslproblem> ahh yes, I'm reading. ok enable_quotas="YES" is not etc /etc/rc.conf so we can be safely sure thats not it. maybe its somewhere in the postfix configs, the sql's, or its making trouble because its in a jail.[21:36:17] *** rootsvr has joined #postfix[21:37:29] *** KRF has joined #postfix[21:39:25] *** cpm has quit IRC[21:39:45] *** freq9 has joined #postfix[21:41:35] <freq9> I am back :) Someone said I have to "rebuild" my postfix installation to re-get mysql support. I actually have an installed version of postfix. Do I have to compile postfix new? Does ist override my existing installation?[21:41:57] <KRF> hi folks, i've got a problem: i'm owning multiple domains, example1.com and example2.com and so on. now i want all domains to catch the abuse account, but i want user at example1 dot com and user at example2 dot com in different mailboxes (for this i have two create a virtual_alias_map, ok). but if i add the domains to the virtual domains, postfix ignores /etc/aliases (in which "abuse" is defined of course). is there a way to add abuse@ to virtual_alias_map maybe?[21:43:00] <KRF> the main problem is: postfix doesnt want one single domain in both "mydestination" and "virtual_alias_map"[21:43:05] *** tarik has quit IRC[21:44:45] <KRF> i hope someone understands it :P[21:47:37] <`VL> freq9: this depends on what you have installed and what you will compile and with which keys. check the manual at http://www.postfix.org/INSTALL.html[21:51:51] *** Zeit|awy has joined #postfix[21:57:53] *** maniacxs has quit IRC[22:01:02] *** pirho has joined #postfix[22:01:19] *** kokoko1 has left #postfix[22:01:51] *** Casan has joined #postfix[22:03:21] *** githogori has quit IRC[22:03:39] *** carl- has quit IRC[22:04:37] *** dec has quit IRC[22:05:46] *** githogori has joined #postfix[22:06:50] <smtpsslproblem> VL: the big problem was dovecot and a quota plugin module.[22:06:59] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[22:07:59] *** Mavvie has quit IRC[22:13:15] *** UQlev has quit IRC[22:26:42] *** felix_da_catz has quit IRC[22:30:11] *** solar__ has quit IRC[22:31:04] *** pythonic has quit IRC[22:31:38] *** pythonic has joined #postfix[22:32:10] *** sepski has quit IRC[22:34:59] *** matiu has joined #postfix[22:36:09] <matiu> Can someone please tell me why my mail server is not relaying this mail to the right alias ?[22:36:09] <matiu> http://pastebin.com/m5be64536[22:36:28] <matiu> It's supposed to go lanz at maxnet dot co.nz[22:36:34] <matiu> but the mail server is going:[22:36:45] <matiu> 72C6A636AD1: to=<lanz at maxnet dot co.nz>, orig_to=<ken at shadesdirect dot co.nz>, relay=virtual, delay=0.1, delays=0.09/0/0/0, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (unknown user: "lanz at maxnet dot co.nz")[22:37:00] *** Predom[Work] has joined #postfix[22:38:09] *** KRF has left #postfix[22:39:45] <adaptr> !virtual[22:39:46] <knoba> adaptr: "virtual" : a way to configure additional domains and user accounts (that do not need to exist in your /etc/passwd). See: http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html[22:41:05] <matiu> ah,[22:41:12] *** diveli has joined #postfix[22:41:19] <matiu> so what do I need? virtual_alias_maps?[22:41:26] <adaptr> what do you *have* ?[22:41:34] <matiu> someone else set this thing up[22:41:45] <matiu> and it went live yesterday[22:41:48] <adaptr> where is this alias defined ?[22:42:04] <matiu> and now I'm in charge of 89 people wondering why it takes 2 hours to fix their email address :D[22:42:10] <matiu> it's in a mysql table[22:42:21] <adaptr> harrumph[22:42:30] <adaptr> so why did you let yourself be suckered into this ?[22:42:41] <matiu> the "other guy" is busy :D[22:42:49] <matiu> I'm charging by the hour, I'm not to upset :D[22:42:58] <adaptr> ah[22:43:18] <adaptr> so... you're charging by the hour to fix something you don't actually know how to fix ?[22:43:41] <matiu> well, I used to do postfix, it's changed a lot in 8 years[22:43:44] <rob0> Nice work if you can get it.[22:43:51] <matiu> :)[22:44:18] <matiu> after I sort this out, I have to figure out why dovecot is rejecting all logins[22:44:33] <matiu> I asked the other guy before we went live "are you sure it's working?"[22:44:36] <matiu> like 3 times[22:44:41] <matiu> he said, yes 100%[22:44:44] <adaptr> and he lied, like, about 3 times[22:44:50] <adaptr> I would, too[22:44:50] <matiu> yeah man[22:44:54] <matiu> lol[22:45:09] <adaptr> the correct thing to do was: show me how it works[22:45:24] <matiu> So instead of saying to postfix, this is your "virtual alias" table[22:45:40] <adaptr> ..which you don't[22:45:45] <matiu> I need to say "this is "some other kind of alias table"[22:45:53] <adaptr> !virtual_alias_maps[22:45:54] <knoba> adaptr: "virtual_alias_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup tables that alias specific mail addresses or domains to other local or remote address. The table format and lookups are documented in virtual(5).[22:46:20] *** havvg_ has quit IRC[22:46:35] <matiu> Thanks adaptr :)[22:46:51] <matiu> I was heading down this way, I guess I have to sit down and read the instructions..[22:47:46] <adaptr> indeed you do[22:47:57] * adaptr wishes people paid him money to read manuals[22:48:22] <matiu> So I found this: virtual_alias_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/maps/mysql_virtual_alias[22:48:31] <rob0> !postmapq[22:48:32] <knoba> rob0: "postmapq" : You can check your lookups with the postmap command. Example: if you defined "transport_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/transport.cf" you may check this mapping by running "postmap -q domain.com mysql:/etc/postfix/transport.cf" and see if it works.[22:48:37] *** hf|work has quit IRC[22:51:11] *** xored has quit IRC[22:58:33] *** fernando has quit IRC[23:00:28] *** duki has quit IRC[23:00:43] *** freq9 has left #postfix[23:00:52] *** duki has joined #postfix[23:06:03] *** dbaio has quit IRC[23:06:03] *** duki has quit IRC[23:06:18] *** j_s has quit IRC[23:06:23] <matiu> Anyone know what process postfix admin uses to encode a password in mysql?[23:06:28] *** duki has joined #postfix[23:06:50] <matiu> I have a db full of plain text passwords, which dovecot refuses to recognise[23:07:07] <matiu> I don't really want to reset them all in the web interface,[23:07:18] <matiu> I'd write a script if I knew how to encode them properly..[23:07:50] <jpalmer> Mait, look at pacrypt()[23:08:45] <jpalmer> functions.inc.php[23:09:33] <jpalmer> the actual crypt that is being called, is the one you define in config.inc.php[23:11:07] <matiu> thanks jpalmer :)[23:11:38] *** duki has quit IRC[23:11:52] <rob0> You *need* plaintext passwords if you want to support secure AUTH mechanisms.[23:12:30] <adaptr> ugh ? run that by me again, will you ?[23:12:41] <rob0> Not that that's a big deal, as I just require TLS for AUTH.[23:13:31] <rob0> With crypted passwords you can only have AUTH PLAIN (and LOGIN, for braindead MS MUAs.)[23:15:11] <pythonic> do i sense a hint of ingratitude?[23:15:46] <rob0> No. I'm sorry. Thank you.[23:17:18] *** duki has joined #postfix[23:20:05] *** duki has quit IRC[23:31:46] * adaptr remembers this moment[23:32:30] <rob0> Oh come on, SOMEONE, give me a hint of redemption here. The guilt is getting to me.[23:32:46] <pythonic> your sins are forgiven :-)[23:32:57] <rob0> whew, thanks.[23:32:58] <pythonic> better now? :-p[23:33:02] <rob0> much[23:36:29] *** pirho has quit IRC[23:37:07] *** pirho has joined #postfix[23:39:35] *** prebur36 has joined #postfix[23:41:18] *** prebur102 has quit IRC[23:46:07] *** rayvd has joined #postfix[23:47:10] *** xored has joined #postfix[23:47:50] *** unixcoder has quit IRC[23:53:24] *** rayvd has quit IRC[23:54:37] *** jpalmer has quit IRC[23:55:11] *** jpalmer has joined #postfix[23:57:30] *** chatran has joined #postfix[23:57:43] *** diveli has quit IRC[23:59:03] <chatran> www.minhasideias.com