November 20, 2007 
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November 20, 2007 [00:00:00] *** eviljames has quit IRC[00:00:36] <adaptr> kreg you can never use SSL with only one IP on the same port, and yes, TLS can separate whatever it does just fine - why wouldn't it ? don't confuse transport with mail[00:05:22] <js_> nevermind, i sorted the proxymap problem.. however, since i enabled VDA my CPU usage has highered by almost 10 times[00:06:00] <contraventor> how control atachamment per user ?[00:36:30] <rob0> Part of SSL/TLS security includes checking the reverse DNS and reporting / objecting to any instance in which there's a mismatch between the cert's commonName and rDNS name.[00:37:02] *** Bagualas has quit IRC[00:37:03] <rob0> So, it's simply not possible to do multiple certs on the same IP.[00:37:18] <kreg> ya[00:37:19] <rob0> Why not just get/use more IP addresses?[00:37:28] *** Bagualas has joined #postfix[00:37:41] <kreg> i am aliasing the IP addresses from the previously real mail servers[00:41:07] *** chatran has quit IRC[01:00:48] *** war has quit IRC[01:10:32] <mmlj4> i have virtual hosts working correctly with /etc/postfix/virtual, but I need to use transport maps instead (for cyrus IMAP vhosting). Am I supposed to use both, or comment out the virtual_alias_maps, and use only transport_maps? is virtual_alias_domains getting in my way? I'm getting "User unknown in virtual alias table" when I lost the virtual_alias_maps parameter.[01:12:21] <mmlj4> and "mailbox does not exist" when I re-enable virtual_alias_maps[01:23:25] *** unixun has quit IRC[01:27:52] *** boun has quit IRC[01:29:33] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[01:31:59] *** githogori_ has quit IRC[01:32:57] *** pirho has quit IRC[01:34:00] *** pirho has joined #postfix[01:35:06] *** boun has joined #postfix[01:37:17] *** follia has joined #postfix[02:14:58] *** qiyong has joined #postfix[02:29:21] *** unixipher has joined #postfix[02:45:43] *** prebur has quit IRC[02:47:18] *** hachiya has quit IRC[02:55:30] *** duki has quit IRC[02:55:33] *** etaylor has quit IRC[02:55:51] *** duki has joined #postfix[02:56:01] *** etaylor has joined #postfix[02:56:11] *** follia has quit IRC[03:03:48] *** pirho has quit IRC[03:04:14] *** hachiya has joined #postfix[03:04:54] *** Tachy_ has joined #postfix[03:14:32] *** w0rd54 has quit IRC[03:15:25] *** Tachy has quit 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joined #postfix[05:34:47] *** amrit|afk is now known as amrit[06:03:32] *** Tinozaure is now known as Tino[06:03:41] *** Tino is now known as Tinozaure[06:09:30] *** jetole has joined #postfix[06:10:14] <jetole> hey guys, I am running spam assassin, great program, works fine, have mail with the spam assassin tags delivered to my imap folder which I access daily from two locations ...[06:10:55] <jetole> I would like to implement sieve to automagically move spam to the spam folder based on one of the headers in the mail, I don't know where this is supposed to be done, is it a postfix or dovecot issue[06:10:59] <jetole> ?[06:32:27] *** mathez has joined #postfix[06:44:33] *** Motoko-chan has joined #postfix[06:45:43] *** variable_office has joined #postfix[06:46:03] <variable_office> is there a way to append a string to the subject of all the messages being sent out?[06:46:17] <variable_office> *err the body, not the subject[07:03:01] <Motoko-chan> Yes.[07:03:08] <Motoko-chan> Search, it has been asked before[07:03:21] <Motoko-chan> (I believe alterMIME is one method)[07:04:58] *** skyion has quit IRC[07:12:39] *** _bugz_ has quit IRC[07:13:56] *** _bugz_ has joined #postfix[07:21:19] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[07:32:18] *** kreg_lt has joined #postfix[07:36:49] *** diveli_ has quit IRC[07:55:47] *** goo has joined #postfix[07:58:39] *** f3ew has joined #postfix[08:03:43] *** Twinkletoes_ has joined #postfix[08:15:18] *** sadmin1 has joined #postfix[08:15:27] <sadmin1> any one works on body_checks[08:19:20] <f3ew> sadmin1 man body_checks[08:19:24] <f3ew> !cheatsheet[08:19:25] <knoba> f3ew: "cheatsheet" : http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt : A HOWTO for pre-DATA spam control.[08:20:00] *** Twinkletoes has quit IRC[08:20:01] <sadmin1> hey i want caseinsensitve[08:20:13] <sadmin1> i want to check a particular name in all emails[08:20:18] <sadmin1> Mohin Raza[08:20:27] *** skyion has joined #postfix[08:20:33] <sadmin1> if some one says mohin RaZa then should be blocked[08:20:36] <sadmin1> or not[08:20:59] <skyion> hi guys, is there a way to redirect mail from one specific external user to another address?[08:21:38] *** iishi has quit IRC[08:23:08] *** AllenJB has quit IRC[08:24:51] <f3ew> skyion, use a policyd[08:25:19] <skyion> f3ew >> thank-you looking at now/[08:25:45] <skyion> hmmm its an external plugin.[08:27:33] <skyion> sender_canonical ?[08:28:12] <skyion> hmm... maybe not/.[08:28:18] *** Internat3 has joined #postfix[08:28:48] *** Internat has quit IRC[08:29:11] <f3ew> skyion sender_bcc_maps ?[08:31:30] <skyion> so I should be able to take all mail from joe at somewhere dot com to anyone at mydomain dot com and redirect it to someoneelse at somewhereelse dot com[08:36:55] <sysmonk> f3ew: not really, bcc_maps send a copy, not redirect the mail[08:37:19] <sysmonk> skyion: simple alias maps should do it[08:37:37] <skyion> alias maps :)[08:38:00] <skyion> ok... sorry there are quiet a few options ;)[08:38:11] <skyion> will look at that now sysmonk[08:38:35] <sysmonk> skyion: hmm, wait, you said from one SPECIFIC user to other SPECIFIC user ?[08:38:45] <skyion> yes[08:38:50] <sysmonk> ah...[08:39:07] <skyion> mail comes in from field: personx at somewhere dot com[08:39:18] <skyion> i want to forward it out to another address[08:39:30] <skyion> regardless of who its send to within my domain.[08:40:15] <sysmonk> er, so from anyone to one specific user ?[08:40:34] <sysmonk> if from * to user at domain dot com then it's alias table/maps[08:40:50] <sysmonk> if fom user1 at xxx dot com to user2 at yyy dot com then i don't know :)[08:42:24] <skyion> if from user at domain dot com to * at mydomain dot com[08:43:02] <skyion> redirect to someone at someoneelsesdomain dot com[08:43:09] <skyion> make sense sysmonk ?[08:43:29] <skyion> I just have really weird requests from sysadmins downstairs.[08:47:31] <f3ew> skyion, check_sender_access with REDIRECT[08:47:44] <f3ew> Sorry, caught up with something else, not paying sufficient attention here[08:53:29] *** kreg_lt has quit IRC[08:55:15] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[09:01:11] *** clusterer has joined #postfix[09:02:19] <clusterer> hi all, I have a clustered setup and I'm running into an annoying problem[09:02:39] <clusterer> one system in the cluster has all my virtual mailbox directories[09:02:53] <clusterer> all the other are supposed to forward email they receive to this machine[09:03:11] <clusterer> I have it setup ok, using 'relay_domains'[09:03:17] <clusterer> and relayhost[09:03:39] <clusterer> but when I send e-mail from the other nodes in the cluster[09:03:50] <clusterer> they forward it to the main system and then e-mail out[09:04:04] <clusterer> I don't want this I just want the node system to send the mail directly[09:04:08] <clusterer> any thoughts?[09:13:15] *** Kraklok has joined #postfix[09:13:21] <Kraklok> hello[09:13:29] *** mark-use has joined #postfix[09:26:01] *** cutmasta has joined #postfix[09:26:21] *** Jax has joined #postfix[09:26:34] *** clusterer has quit IRC[09:26:39] *** Motoko-chan has quit IRC[09:27:14] *** harobed has joined #postfix[09:30:29] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[09:34:39] *** boun has quit IRC[09:37:43] *** boun has joined #postfix[09:38:09] *** amrit is now known as amrit|zzz[09:45:05] *** AL13N_work has left #postfix[09:56:27] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[09:57:10] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[10:00:17] *** githogori has quit IRC[10:02:12] *** war has joined #postfix[10:05:59] *** aaronc has joined #postfix[10:06:36] *** aaronc_ has quit IRC[10:09:27] *** evadave_ has joined #postfix[10:10:56] *** phnord has joined #postfix[10:13:35] *** tarik has joined #postfix[10:20:01] *** AllenJB has joined #postfix[10:22:45] *** evadave has quit IRC[10:43:08] *** rootsvr has joined #postfix[10:45:52] *** sysadmin-lb has joined #postfix[10:46:02] *** Internat3 has quit IRC[10:46:19] <sysadmin-lb> Hi All..can anyone tell me where to disable NDR (Non Delivery Reports)[10:47:17] *** Internat has joined #postfix[10:48:58] <sysadmin-lb> anyone ?[10:49:32] *** Kraklok has left #postfix[10:51:05] *** meandtheshell has joined #postfix[10:54:26] *** sadmin1 has quit IRC[10:55:29] *** qiyong has quit IRC[11:06:33] *** Twinkletoes_ is now known as Twinkletoes[11:07:42] *** Thurisaz has joined #postfix[11:07:52] <Thurisaz> Hi all[11:08:21] <Thurisaz> I have some problems with installation of PostfixAdmin on OpenBSD[11:08:42] <Thurisaz> http://pastebin.ca/790344[11:09:11] <Thurisaz> that is the report by setup.php[11:09:28] <Thurisaz> I'm following this guide http://www.thostrup.dk/obsdmailserver.html[11:10:18] <Thurisaz> If someone has any experience in install this software on OpenBSD, please help me[11:11:28] *** mark-use has quit IRC[11:14:50] *** asmas has joined #postfix[11:15:16] *** asmas has quit IRC[11:15:43] *** asmas has joined #postfix[11:16:20] *** asmas has quit IRC[11:16:27] *** asmas has joined #postfix[11:21:20] <sysadmin-lb> Hi All..can anyone tell me where to disable NDR (Non Delivery Reports)[11:36:52] <f3ew> Why?[11:38:55] *** ming_zym has left #postfix[11:39:47] *** lucky13 has joined #postfix[11:39:56] <lucky13> hi everyone[11:47:16] <lucky13> i'm experiencing some problems delivering mail to external servers... namely gmail and hotmail... i get an error "(delivery temporarily suspended: connect to gmail.com[64.233.161.83]: Connection timed out)"[11:47:21] <lucky13> anyone can explain?[11:48:36] *** sysadmin-lb has quit IRC[11:48:58] *** Jax has quit IRC[11:51:34] <lucky13> in this case, the port 25 is indeed closed... it seems like postfix is confusing the mail server with the web server... it is sending me to the google home page[11:58:35] *** cpm has joined #postfix[12:02:03] *** rootsvr_ has joined #postfix[12:19:06] <lucky13> found it... i had disable_dns_lookups = yes[12:19:07] *** netcrash has joined #postfix[12:19:13] <lucky13> changed it to no and now it works[12:20:04] <netcrash> Hello , I'm trying to do 2 content_filters on one machine but trying to reinject the email back to postfix is causing a loop, how can I disable content_filter for mail received locally ? ( sendmail command )[12:20:42] *** rootsvr has quit IRC[12:22:49] *** idioterna has quit IRC[12:23:09] *** idioterna has joined #postfix[12:24:06] *** duki has joined #postfix[12:24:26] *** Zeit|awy has joined #postfix[12:26:02] *** lysander has quit IRC[12:26:12] *** lysander has joined #postfix[12:33:50] *** bhagat has quit IRC[12:34:32] *** kk_CHN has quit IRC[12:36:31] *** asmas has quit IRC[12:37:13] *** lucky13 has quit IRC[13:00:23] *** atilaX has quit IRC[13:05:31] *** mark-use has joined #postfix[13:06:21] *** mark-use has quit IRC[13:06:33] *** mark-use has joined #postfix[13:25:24] *** Tinozaure is now known as Tino[13:25:48] *** Tino is now known as Tinozaure[13:30:45] *** rootsvr_ has quit IRC[13:33:19] *** marl has joined #postfix[13:34:32] <marl> hi, could some kind person tell me if there is a way to display the build options for postfix? i have an old mail server, and am trying to find out if it was compiled with cyrus-sasl support or not, before i try and download cyrus[13:39:22] <rob0> postconf -A (client SASL) or -a (server SASL)[13:40:22] *** adam33 has joined #postfix[13:49:52] *** dbaio has joined #postfix[14:00:19] *** rootsvr has joined #postfix[14:00:23] *** solar_ant has joined #postfix[14:04:03] *** etaylor has quit IRC[14:06:54] *** hf|work has joined #postfix[14:07:01] <hf|work> hi everyone[14:07:14] <netcrash> Can a NAS server handle requests for about 3 MX servers ( mailbox delivery + read pop ) with a dual core 1.6Mhz 4MB cache , 1GB ram ?[14:08:41] <netcrash> by logic since most work is done by the mx I think it can take the load. Some people say it might be unsufficient[14:09:17] <hf|work> I just was successful in specifying some smtp_restriction_classes and was wondering if it is possible to specify even seperate entries like reject_rbl_client per emailadress instead of a whole group[14:09:31] <hf|work> netcrash: what filesystem are u using?[14:09:42] <netcrash> not my machine[14:10:02] <netcrash> w8[14:10:05] <netcrash> a moment[14:10:15] <hf|work> with xfs, eg, it would be unsufficient i think[14:10:25] <hf|work> xfs uses much ram[14:10:53] <netcrash> LVM under ext3[14:11:20] <hf|work> ok, that should be not critical with ram itself[14:11:42] <hf|work> about how many mails we are talking here per hour/day?[14:12:26] <netcrash> hour ?![14:12:32] <netcrash> lol[14:12:49] <netcrash> let's say 100 per minute[14:13:22] <hf|work> sounds like a medium frequented system[14:13:33] <hf|work> in this case, is NAS == NFS?[14:14:24] <f3ew> netcrash, most of the work is done by the file server[14:14:50] <f3ew> hf|work, see smtpd_restriction_classes and policy daemons[14:15:01] <cpm> morn'n f3ew[14:15:10] <f3ew> lo[14:16:24] <hf|work> f3ew: i already read that smtpd_restriction_classes part - as far as I understood only classes are possible, just wanted to be sure[14:17:01] <netcrash> hf|work: f3ew , but if the mx do all the filtering the file server will only have to read and write the "valid" emails to the box or maildir , maildir would be better ...[14:17:04] *** arcleaf has joined #postfix[14:17:42] <marl> is there a way to get saslauthd to output verbose logging? am trying to get it to work, but cant find a way to tell if it saslauthd that causing the problem or not :([14:17:55] <hf|work> netcrash: exactly that writing is the critical part - mails are very small files usual, so the read/write is very excessive[14:18:27] <arcleaf> Nov 20 21:18:00 email1 postfix/pipe[16064]: fatal: shared lock active/C06FE40400E4: Resource temporarily unavailable[14:19:01] <hf|work> netcrash: your hard disk(s) can only do a limited number of jumps per second[14:19:08] *** rootsvr has quit IRC[14:19:53] <hf|work> and if the NAS is a NFS server: forget it, NFS is very bad for excessive read/write amounts of very small files[14:20:58] <netcrash> hf|work: what would you suggest ?[14:21:50] *** NET||abuse has joined #postfix[14:21:51] <hf|work> I think this depends on the needs of the setup itself[14:21:59] <hf|work> is a centralized storage recommended?[14:22:29] <netcrash> If you think on cost+ growth I believe yes[14:22:41] <netcrash> low cost + high growth[14:22:49] * rob0 would suggest a 64-core Expectoron CPU with 32TB RAM and a 100MB ATA hard drive.[14:24:05] <hf|work> rob0: lol :)[14:24:37] *** dman_ has joined #postfix[14:24:45] <hf|work> netcrash: there are many solutions for redundant/central storage[14:24:55] <hf|work> eg ata over ethernet[14:24:56] <NET||abuse> oh boy.. so long since i've done this.. trying to add our local network to the mail server online (it's a web/mail server), adding the local ip (it's static) to the networks= directive,, so the web server has 127.0.0.0/8 but our ip,, how do i find our subnet?[14:25:01] <dman_> can i get postfix to relay via the transport map to a host without looking up the mx of the host?[14:25:05] <dman_> just going direct to its ip[14:25:06] <hf|work> or drbd[14:25:28] <hf|work> but there is not the "everything simple, perfect and cheap" solution ;)[14:25:44] <rob0> dman_: [hostname] as seen in "man 5 transport"[14:26:50] *** deltaray2 has joined #postfix[14:28:04] <deltaray2> Hi, I am having trouble with someone sending spam to localhost from the webserver, but I'm having trouble determining which host it is, is there a way to detect this or is this something I have to do on the Apache/PHP/CGI side?[14:29:23] <cpm> I would expect.[14:29:39] <dman_> rob0: thats what i needed, thanks :)[14:30:39] <rob0> NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition![14:31:53] <f3ew> NET||abuse see the netmask on your desktop?[14:32:16] <f3ew> deltaray2 Apache logs[14:32:25] *** Jax has joined #postfix[14:32:49] <cpm> Amongst our weaponry are such diverse elements as fear, , ,[14:33:24] <f3ew> and surprise[14:33:29] <deltaray2> f3ew, right, but when I have 300 vhosts on a machine, that's a lot of logs to look through and its not always straight forward how the e-mail is being sent and by who.[14:33:47] <NET||abuse> f3ew, the netmask for the server on the local network will not be apparent to the server on the internet[14:34:28] <NET||abuse> ok,, what's the sub in the address style x.x.x.x/sub when it's 255.255.255.252[14:34:42] <NET||abuse> is it just x.y.z.a/3[14:34:55] *** elt0n has joined #postfix[14:35:00] <rob0> /30[14:35:03] <elt0n> hi[14:35:04] <NET||abuse> ohhh[14:35:05] <NET||abuse> thanks[14:35:25] * rob0 keeps all netmasks in a DNS zone :)[14:35:44] <NET||abuse> rob0, eh? what do you mean?[14:36:21] <rob0_> 255.in-addr.arpa.[14:36:34] * cpm puts rob0 in a zone[14:36:49] * rob0 zones out[14:36:58] <NET||abuse> i'm adding the office's internet ip to the networks of the postfix server on the domains web/email server out on the intarweb, so our local app server can send out emails to our external email accounts relaying through that server[14:37:15] <NET||abuse> so mail comes from our company domain[14:40:48] *** dman has joined #postfix[14:44:54] *** deltaray2 has quit IRC[14:48:22] <marl> my respons to ehlo wen conencting to port 25 doesnt include STARTTLS, could this be something ive missed in the main.cf file?[14:48:58] *** dman_ has quit IRC[14:51:58] *** rootsvr has joined #postfix[14:53:24] *** lambda has joined #postfix[14:53:37] <lambda> !reject_unknown_sender_domain[14:53:38] <knoba> lambda: "reject_unknown_sender_domain" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Checks the domain name in the MAIL FROM: address, to make sure it exists.[14:54:44] *** contraventor has quit IRC[14:54:56] <lambda> does it make sense to reject unknown_sender_domain in smtpd_recipient_restrictions ?[14:56:31] <Roobarb-Work> lambda: I do[14:56:32] <rob0> lambda, it blocks a lot of spam. And IMO no non-spammer has any right to use a non-replyable sender address. Just do it.[14:57:46] <lambda> ok thx[15:00:49] <lambda> but should i do it in smtpd_sender_restrictions or smtpd_recipient_restrictions ?[15:02:33] <rob0> !access[15:02:33] <knoba> rob0: "access" : http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_ACCESS_README.html : An overview of access(5) controls in the Postfix smtpd(8) SMTP server.[15:02:44] <rob0> Apparently lambda hasn't read this ^^[15:03:31] <rob0> In short, you can use any restriction in any stage, if it makes sense there, and even if not (it just won't work in that case.)[15:04:09] <lambda> ok ^^[15:05:53] *** dman has left #postfix[15:08:53] <arcleaf> what is erms[15:09:24] <arcleaf> it is really weird[15:09:24] <arcleaf> relay=none, delay=0.05, delays=0.04/0.01/0/0.01, dsn=4.3.0, status=deferred (unknown mail transport error)[15:09:24] <arcleaf> anybody have been facing this problem before ?[15:10:55] <rob0> GIGO, pastebin a complete unmunged log of a mail from initial arrival/submission to the first deferral.[15:10:56] <Roobarb-Work> arcleaf: paste the whole log excerpt for that mail (should be several lines[15:10:59] <Roey> hey adaptr, good morning![15:11:41] <arcleaf> 1 min[15:12:23] <arcleaf> http://pastebin.us/?show=d3336ce9c[15:12:24] <arcleaf> here[15:13:01] <Roobarb-Work> arcleaf: thats an interesting set of errors[15:13:01] <arcleaf> weird, sometimes it work ok for a while[15:13:36] <rob0> You set up a pipe(8) transport which is not working.[15:13:44] <arcleaf> i have no idea how to fix it now[15:13:58] <arcleaf> hold on[15:14:09] <rob0> We have no idea, either.[15:14:30] <arcleaf> dst-orig unix - n n - 1 pipe[15:14:31] <arcleaf> flags=DRhu user=vmail:vmail argv=/usr/bin/maildrop -w90 -d ${user}[15:16:26] <arcleaf> ermms[15:16:31] <arcleaf> just notice[15:16:34] <arcleaf> it will happen[15:17:00] <arcleaf> if someone send to multiple recieption in my server[15:17:02] <arcleaf> good[15:17:46] *** mark-use has quit IRC[15:23:54] <arcleaf> hahaha[15:23:59] <arcleaf> not working also[15:32:37] *** unixipher has joined #postfix[15:38:21] <marl> ah, i think i have found the prob with my saslauthd and postfix, if i run testsaslauthd -u name -p pass it fails with no such directory, but if i put -f path_to_socket it works fine, anyone any idea why this whould fail if i dont specify the socket file?[15:39:17] <elt0n> hi everytime my postfix bounces a mail I get this error in my log "mail for <myhostname> loops back to myself" paste:http://rafb.net/p/p2ITM984.html[15:39:29] <elt0n> what can I do against this loop?[15:40:34] <marl> wat is your post master email addy?[15:41:50] <rob0> !loopback[15:41:51] <knoba> rob0: "loopback" : 'Mail loops back to myself' means that your Postfix wanted to send out the mail to the internet but then discovered that the DNS says your mail server should be responsible. Most likely you forgot to list your domain in mydestination or virtual_(alias|mailbox)_domains[15:42:07] <cpm> send your mail to rob0[15:43:11] <elt0n> cpm: to rob0? I'll check whether I forgot to list my domain[15:43:29] <elt0n> !loopback[15:43:29] <knoba> elt0n: "loopback" : 'Mail loops back to myself' means that your Postfix wanted to send out the mail to the internet but then discovered that the DNS says your mail server should be responsible. Most likely you forgot to list your domain in mydestination or virtual_(alias|mailbox)_domains[15:43:29] *** faxm0dem has joined #postfix[15:43:31] <faxm0dem> hey[15:43:49] <elt0n> sry cleared my chat...my fault[15:43:52] <faxm0dem> I've got a lot of messages in my mailq[15:43:58] <faxm0dem> looks like spam though[15:44:19] <faxm0dem> postfix flush doesn't flush them because of:[15:44:32] <faxm0dem> Sender address rejected: Domain not found[15:45:00] <faxm0dem> why doesn't postfix trash those msgs?[15:45:07] <Dominian> it will after they time out[15:45:24] <faxm0dem> what's the default timeout?[15:45:30] <faxm0dem> is that RFC?[15:46:15] <Dominian> I have no idea[15:46:24] <Dominian> but if you want them gone you can look at postqueue -d option[15:47:50] <faxm0dem> hmmm...don't have that option[15:48:10] *** aaronc has quit IRC[15:48:23] *** aaronc has joined #postfix[15:48:33] <Dominian> sorry its postsuper -d[15:48:38] <faxm0dem> this sucks cause I get "Err[15:48:39] <faxm0dem> or: too many connections from 82.224.162.122"[15:49:00] <faxm0dem> from my relayhost[15:49:22] <faxm0dem> that IP was me bugger should have crypted it ;)[15:50:08] <Roey> Hi, can anyone help me with a Postgrey problem? I've put a few entries to whitelist Verizon (*.verizon.net) in /etc/postgrey/whitelist_recipients and have restarted the Postgrey server, yet Postgrey keeps greylisting (rejecting) messages from Verizon (as far as I can tell from /var/log/mail.log). What's going on here? Must I re-start Postfix too?[15:51:35] <rob0> All your mail are belong to us.[15:51:56] *** m_g has joined #postfix[15:52:24] <Roey> myes[15:53:53] <Dominian> I don't use postgrey[15:53:54] * Dominian uses sqlgrey[15:53:57] <Dominian> and I don't whitelist anyone[15:54:20] <rob0> Lies! You whitelisted me![15:54:46] <Dominian> rob0: pfft[15:54:49] <sep> one of my clients replaced my postfix with a shiny new ironport. and now they are backscattering $everyone (Muahhahah) :P[15:54:50] <Dominian> rob0: not initially[15:54:53] <Dominian> rob0: :)[15:55:14] <faxm0dem> tnx Dominian[15:55:15] <rob0> All your ironport are belong to us.[15:55:21] <Dominian> faxm0dem: n p[15:55:37] *** faxm0dem has left #postfix[15:55:43] <Dominian> sep: just wait till they call on you to come fix it[15:55:54] <sep> a bit perplexed why a "industry leader" as they claim to be can have such a horrid default behavior[15:55:55] <Roey> where can I check out postgrey's dynamic whitelist? Where does it keep it, in /var?[15:56:13] <Roey> you mean like Microsoft making certain ports open by default?[15:56:32] <rob0> Postgrey's mailing list is low volume and populated by some good people. I suggest you take it there.[15:56:36] <m_g> hey guys[15:56:49] <m_g> my virtual domains/user setup still isn't working :)[15:57:13] <Roey> rob0: ok[15:57:20] *** growltiger_ has quit IRC[15:57:34] *** growltiger_ has joined #postfix[15:58:26] <m_g> virtual_alias_domains = sub.domain.tld; virtual_alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/virtual_alias; the virtual_alias file contains only one line of the form me at sub dot domain.tld mysystemuser. i do postmap /etc/postfix/virtual_alias and reload postfix but the mails still bounce with "User unknown in virtual alias table"[15:58:48] *** k1ckn1ck has joined #postfix[16:00:16] *** pego has joined #postfix[16:00:42] <m_g> anybody an idea?[16:00:55] *** Jax has quit IRC[16:01:27] <pego> hi there, i have my queue block by unknown mail transport error mail, but when i postqueu -f my spamd/mysql take too much and can't handle the only 300 main in queue ... what can i do please[16:02:03] <k1ckn1ck> i am currently using maps_rbl_domains = bl.spamcop.net,dynablock.njabl.org,zen.spamhaus.org,list.dsbl.org to check email, should there not be a link in smtpd_recipient_restrictions to actually read the line above[16:02:37] <rob0> "User unknown in virtual alias table" means that the recipient domain is in virtual_alias_domains, but the user@domain was NOT found in virtual_alias_maps.[16:02:53] <rob0> maps_rbl_domains was deprecated years ago![16:02:56] <marl> ahhhhhhhhhhhrrrrrrrrggggggggggg loosing to much hair over saslauthd :( can anyone give me any idea why testsaslauthd wont work without specifying the socket ?[16:03:11] <rob0> !cheatsheet[16:03:12] <knoba> rob0: "cheatsheet" : http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt : A HOWTO for pre-DATA spam control.[16:03:43] <rob0> marl, Debian or similar?[16:03:52] <marl> redhat based :([16:04:36] <marl> testsaslauthd works fine so long as i specify the mux file, butr if i dont then it fails with connect() : No such file or directory[16:05:01] <rob0> Still, might be chroot'ed[16:05:02] <m_g> rob0: do you have an idea for how to solve this?[16:05:14] <rob0> !postmapq[16:05:14] <knoba> rob0: "postmapq" : You can check your lookups with the postmap command. Example: if you defined "transport_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/transport.cf" you may check this mapping by running "postmap -q domain.com mysql:/etc/postfix/transport.cf" and see if it works.[16:05:15] <marl> does saslauthd require a config file? it is started with : /usr/sbin/saslauthd -m /var/run/saslauthd/mux -a pam[16:05:20] <js_> ever since i enabled VDA my mail server has an extremely high load.. acn these things be related?[16:05:57] <m_g> rob0: yes i did it and it printed my user[16:07:50] <rob0> m_g: pastebin "postconf -n" and a log of one of these rejections[16:08:25] <m_g> sure, just a second[16:09:15] *** GuHHH has joined #postfix[16:09:18] <GuHHH> fatal: /etc/postfix/master.cf: line 49: bad transport type: smtp_data_done_timeout=1200[16:09:29] <GuHHH> is it incorrect?[16:09:39] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[16:10:18] <m_g> rob0: here it is: http://rafb.net/p/qR0J1553.html[16:10:21] <rob0> GuHHH: obviously NOT, otherwise why would you have gotten that error? Probably forgot leading whitespace.[16:11:16] <rob0> Snakeoil :)[16:11:56] <arcleaf> ohh ok[16:12:04] <arcleaf> i need an advise here[16:12:51] <arcleaf> where i should see 1st if i will getting an error if i my mail server recieve 2 email at the same time.[16:13:15] <rob0> m_g, what you showed (with the caveat that it was MUNGED) looks right. Perhaps a typo that got munged out?[16:14:07] <GuHHH> !pastebin[16:14:07] <knoba> GuHHH: "pastebin" : a way to paste larger amounts of text so that other people can read it. Try http://www.rafb.net/paste/ or http://paste.debian.net/ - Do not forget to tell us the URL where you pasted it.[16:14:25] <GuHHH> http://rafb.net/p/2qu2CV35.html[16:14:33] <m_g> hm pretty sure that i didn't do a typo.. could it be a problem that myhostname is a virtual_alias_domain at the same time?[16:14:40] <GuHHH> rob0: can u tell me whats wrong?[16:15:06] *** jellis has joined #postfix[16:16:41] <GuHHH> rob0 oh... i guess i got it... i need a tab sapce before -o, right?[16:19:02] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[16:19:53] *** jbt has joined #postfix[16:20:57] *** Thurisaz has quit IRC[16:21:34] <Roey> Hi, can anyone help me with a Postgrey problem? I've put a few entries to whitelist Verizon (*.verizon.net) in /etc/postgrey/whitelist_recipients and have restarted the Postgrey server, yet Postgrey keeps greylisting (rejecting) messages from Verizon (as far as I can tell from /var/log/mail.log).[16:26:06] <GuHHH> postfix/local[14281]: warning: required alias not found: postmaster[16:26:11] <GuHHH> what it means?[16:27:51] *** aaronc has quit IRC[16:29:14] <Roobarb-Work> GuHHH: take a wild guess[16:39:45] *** pego has quit IRC[16:40:50] <m_g> ok different question: my user has a maildir created with maildirmake Maildir. instead of putting the mail into Maildir/new postfix creates files like Maildir/msg.tAYD, what does that mean?[16:41:06] <m_g> procmailrc problem?[16:42:10] <m_g> yep![16:42:11] <m_g> missing /[16:42:54] <m_g> rob0: by adding sub.domain.tld to mydestination and commenting out virtual_* it works, strange[16:43:24] *** adam33 has quit IRC[16:46:30] <js_> how can i find out what's using so much cpu time?[16:47:35] <Edward123> js_: top?[16:47:50][16:48:50] <Edward123> strace?[16:51:43] *** lambda has quit IRC[16:53:11] *** unixipher has quit IRC[16:53:28] <rob0> m_g: Always use fully-qualified addresses as targets in virtual_alias_maps. Since you used an unqualified local username, you got username@$mydomain, and THAT was what failed in your virtual_alias_maps.[16:54:18] <rob0> You'll need to have something in $mydestination if you want to use local(8) delivery.[16:54:51] <m_g> rob0: oh, so if i add my domain to mydestination and activate the virtual_alias settings again it should work?[16:55:11] <rob0> And just turn off mailbox_command if you don't want to use procmail. A bad Debian non-default default setting.[16:55:27] <m_g> that's ok, i want to use procmail :)[16:55:37] *** row_ has joined #postfix[16:55:40] <cpm> YSABDNDDS[16:56:06] <rob0> We need to teach knoba that one.[16:56:14] <m_g> uhm?[16:56:16] * rob0 is too lazy[16:56:27] <row_> I am using php to send emails ie password resets, the Return-Path is getting set to www-data@hostname even though I am setting the From header etc, is there some postfix related setting forcing this?[16:56:37] <row_> and if so how does one disable it/make it use From header[16:56:42] <cpm> yet still another bad debian no default default setting (there are plenty more)[16:56:55] <m_g> heh[16:57:20] <row_> cpm: what setting would that be?[16:57:58] *** Lucky7 has joined #postfix[16:58:47] <m_g> rob0: ohh great, with that domain in mydestination it's working. but.. the postfix doc says not to list a domain in both, virtual_domains and mydestination?[16:59:36] <Lucky7> Hey everyone[16:59:43] <m_g> hey[16:59:55] <Lucky7> I'm trying to get ClamAV and Spamassassin scanning setup on my Postfix-based SMTP relay server[17:00:10] <Lucky7> and I've gotta be doing something really stupid, because i can't seem to get it to work.[17:00:14] <m_g> rob0: oh ok, just took it out of virtual domains and it's still working, thanks![17:00:27] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[17:00:33] *** ming_zy1 has joined #postfix[17:01:14] <Lucky7> http://rafb.net/p/MJAN4786.html thats my postfix main.cf[17:01:33] <Lucky7> i've currently commented out the content_filter line[17:02:28] *** j_s has joined #postfix[17:04:32] *** Jax has joined #postfix[17:04:54] <Lucky7> nvm, going to clone virtual and just tinker with that[17:10:54] *** cutmasta has quit IRC[17:11:34] *** unixipher has joined #postfix[17:23:12] *** elt0n has quit IRC[17:29:44] *** duki has quit IRC[17:29:52] *** duki has joined #postfix[17:30:57] *** tarik has quit IRC[17:31:11] *** k1ckn1ck has left #postfix[17:37:37] *** Gibbonz has quit IRC[17:42:24] *** ming_zy1 has quit IRC[17:53:14] *** Jax has quit IRC[18:00:45] *** Gibbonz has joined #postfix[18:13:24] *** lambda has joined #postfix[18:14:01] *** pickcoder has joined #postfix[18:14:40] *** alys has joined #postfix[18:17:43] *** alys has quit IRC[18:18:15] *** rootsvr has quit IRC[18:19:42] *** rootsvr has joined #postfix[18:21:55] *** meandtheshell has quit IRC[18:25:23] *** winsct_za has joined #postfix[18:25:42] *** k1ckn1ck has joined #postfix[18:25:55] <winsct_za> halo, i am asking for advice how to set up postfix for sending newsletters for this company, i have tried many things but for some reason my emails go to google spam?[18:26:29] *** tarik has joined #postfix[18:26:30] <winsct_za> even though i see this in the original message: Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of smtpd at musedmail dot com designates 69.77.167.212 as permitted sender)[18:26:42] <winsct_za> so i am thinking what else to do[18:27:59] <k1ckn1ck> hi, i am currently using debian with postfix. Lately the company i work for has recieved two emails from an address anony-666(at)hotmail.co.uk, i am guessin this could possibly using one of these fake email websites, but it has an X-Originating-IP: = our ip address and X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Nov 2007 16:48:19.0699 (UTC) the time it was sent, can this be faked?[18:28:18] *** theblackerbox has joined #postfix[18:28:29] <k1ckn1ck> is it possible to fake the x- headers?[18:28:52] <winsct_za> k1ckn1ck, anything can be faked,[18:28:56] <k1ckn1ck> or would be just some stupid person within the company knot knowing it actually logs the ip[18:28:59] <arcleaf> ermss[18:30:19] <k1ckn1ck> surely its a little more difficult as it says its being sent from bay0-omc1-s23.bay0.hotmail.com[18:30:53] <k1ckn1ck> i thought hotmail wud block relays[18:31:39] <winsct_za> does the ip in the headers and that hostname match?[18:32:05] <k1ckn1ck> (bay0-omc1-s23.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.95])[18:32:28] <k1ckn1ck> yes[18:32:39] *** desrt has joined #postfix[18:32:49] *** sepski has joined #postfix[18:32:51] <desrt> hi. i'm having a bit of a mail emergency right now.[18:33:03] <winsct_za> hmm, then it must be from hotmail,[18:33:08] <desrt> i'm currently under attack by Bad People(tm) and generating a rather significant amount of backscatter[18:33:09] <k1ckn1ck> ok thx[18:33:20] <desrt> i have:[18:33:21] <desrt> mydestination = desrt.ca[18:33:39] <desrt> and i also have smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, reject_unauth_destination, check_policy_service inet:127.0.0.1:2525[18:33:50] <desrt> and sure enough if people send to <foo at desrt dot ca> they get a reject message[18:33:59] <desrt> but if they send to <foo at kopesetik dot desrt.ca> then the message is queued[18:34:03] <desrt> and the bounce is generated later[18:34:18] <winsct_za> desrt, have you seen this : http://www.postfix.org/BACKSCATTER_README.html[18:34:22] *** ack_syn has joined #postfix[18:34:29] <desrt> no[18:34:37] <desrt> reading this one http://www.postfix.org/LOCAL_RECIPIENT_README.html right now :p[18:34:47] <winsct_za> read that too it will help,[18:34:52] <desrt> k. thanks.[18:35:18] <GuHHH> postfix/local[14281]: warning: required alias not found: postmaster ---- can anyone help?[18:35:54] *** Aw0L has joined #postfix[18:36:01] *** phnord has quit IRC[18:36:02] <desrt> winsct_za; this isn't the problem[18:36:09] <desrt> i'm not receiving backscatter. i'm generating it.[18:36:30] <Aw0L> I"m trying to setup smtp auth with cyrus-sasl, and I keep getting this error when I try to authenticate via telnet: 535 5.7.0 Error: authentication failed: no mechanism available[18:36:50] *** k1ckn1ck has left #postfix[18:37:10] <Aw0L> I assume something isn't setup correctly, but where is the error most likely?[18:38:14] <ack_syn> Aw0L, are u trying a crypt auth?[18:38:27] <ack_syn> cyrus need a patch to work using crypt[18:38:48] <ack_syn> to it works*[18:38:53] <Aw0L> ack_syn, I was trying to use plain[18:39:07] <Aw0L> but, it's possibly I don't know what I'm doing, so...[18:40:13] <ack_syn> hehe[18:40:43] <ack_syn> if something is wrong and you dont know what or why, take a look in the logs[18:42:21] <desrt> what would cause postfix to reject mail to nosuchuser at desrt dot ca but accept (and later bounce) mail for nosuchuser at * dot desrt.ca?[18:42:56] *** teknoprep has joined #postfix[18:43:03] <Aw0L> ack_syn, I a few different errors in the logs: http://pastebin.ca/790908[18:43:05] <teknoprep> Nov 19 08:17:44 debian postfix/smtpd[3076]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from wa-out-1112.google.com[209.85.146.182]: 554 5.7.1 relay denied[18:44:47] <teknoprep> any idea why that would happen when i have the recipient domain in the transport table?[18:44:58] <teknoprep> lglcable.com smtp:[10.10.20.111][18:45:04] <ack_syn> hum Aw0L, check your smtpd.conf the error must be there[18:45:15] <Aw0L> ack_syn, thanks...[18:45:18] <ack_syn> or some lib is missing..[18:45:42] <ack_syn> look your ld.so.conf and run ldconfig[18:46:10] *** scoates has joined #postfix[18:46:11] <marl> is there a way to specify a mux path for saslauth in postfix?[18:46:16] <marl> socket path sorry[18:46:39] <scoates> hi. I'd like to make postfix deliver all mail to only a single address. Is this possible? (closest I can find is a @domain catchall)[18:46:42] <desrt> so this is a pretty awful bug[18:47:23] <desrt> postfix accepting mail for domains that it hasn't been told to[18:48:35] <teknoprep> hmm so any idea?[18:48:58] *** mark-use has joined #postfix[18:50:39] *** harobed has quit IRC[18:53:58] <teknoprep> can anyone help me with a relaying problem i am having?[18:54:03] *** boun has quit IRC[18:54:26] *** winsct_za has quit IRC[18:57:00] <cpm> teknoprep, postconf relay_domains says what?[18:58:27] <desrt> ok, seriously guys[18:58:37] <desrt> this is the -worst feature ever-[18:58:40] <desrt> it's like, surely a bug[18:58:43] <teknoprep> i have it setup through SQL[18:58:48] <desrt> parent_domain_matches_subdomains[18:58:48] <teknoprep> db[18:58:51] <desrt> !!![18:58:52] <knoba> desrt: Error: "!!" is not a valid command.[18:59:43] <Aw0L> ack_syn, something very simple, it seems my /etc/sasl2/smtpd.conf file was wrong[18:59:44] <teknoprep> relay_domains = $mydestinations[18:59:47] <teknoprep> relay_domains = $mydestination[19:01:48] <teknoprep> if i add lglcable.com to mydestination it tells me no account for incooming mail.. since lglcable isn't on that server... i am trying to relay it to a server[19:01:57] *** desrt has left #postfix[19:02:08] <teknoprep> cpm you still there?[19:02:11] *** havvg has joined #postfix[19:03:24] <cpm> postconf mydestination ?[19:04:46] <teknoprep> mydestination = debian.example.com, localhost, localhost.localdomain[19:06:03] *** jbt has quit IRC[19:07:23] *** Roey has left #postfix[19:07:49] *** _mXr has joined #postfix[19:08:08] <teknoprep> ??[19:08:22] <teknoprep> cpm mydestination = debian.example.com, localhost, localhost.localdomain[19:10:26] <teknoprep> you still there?[19:11:31] *** Twinkletoes has quit IRC[19:11:39] *** scoates has left #postfix[19:12:45] *** mXr has quit IRC[19:16:18] <marl> aw0l, u still here?[19:16:43] *** lennard has quit IRC[19:16:51] *** lennard has joined #postfix[19:16:53] <teknoprep> cpm ?[19:17:00] *** arcleaf has quit IRC[19:18:47] <cpm> teknoprep, so, why would your machine accept mail for that domain, it's not specified[19:19:01] <cpm> and what's that debian.example.com crap?[19:21:56] <teknoprep> well if i put lglcable.com into mydestinations[19:22:01] <teknoprep> it gives me a different error[19:22:11] <teknoprep> saying that the user doesn't exist[19:22:23] <teknoprep> i am trying to use the postfix server as a mail gateway only[19:24:17] *** NET||abuse has quit IRC[19:24:47] <cpm> you need to configure your postfix[19:24:49] <cpm> !basic[19:24:50] <knoba> cpm: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[19:27:51] <teknoprep> non of what i need is in that[19:27:59] <teknoprep> i have a transport mapping for lglcable.com[19:29:37] <cpm> you have to configure your postfix before you can do much. the output of your mydestination including debian.example.com very strongly implies you haven't configured it yet.[19:30:07] <teknoprep> i have mydestination setup for lglcable.com although i thought that wasn't neccessary[19:30:13] <teknoprep> i have everything setup through SAL[19:30:13] <teknoprep> SQL[19:30:18] <cpm> you'll need to be able to accept mail for lglcable.com before you can hand it off to a transport[19:30:19] <teknoprep> the transports and such[19:30:59] <teknoprep> well even with this in mydestinations i still have an error... its saying that virtual user doesn't exist[19:31:26] <cpm> not according to relay_domains you don't.[19:31:36] <teknoprep> recipient address rejected: user unknown in virutla mailbox table[19:31:56] <teknoprep> i put it in after i did that[19:32:02] <teknoprep> and took out the example[19:32:27] <teknoprep> added the transport.... lglcable.com smtp:[10.10.20.111][19:32:44] <teknoprep> i also added... .lglcable.com smtp[10.10.20.111][19:32:54] <teknoprep> add a :[19:32:59] <teknoprep> after smtp[19:33:27] <cpm> the first example is the correct syntax.[19:33:55] <cpm> but again, (and for the last time) none of this matters if your postfix doesn't have a basic working configuration.[19:34:30] <cpm> hint, first get postfix working, then start adding stuff on like support for virtual domains and the like.[19:34:43] *** carl- has joined #postfix[19:34:54] <teknoprep> i have postfix working fine on another vmware machine[19:35:08] <teknoprep> i used a preconfigured postfix machine this time with dspam[19:35:17] <teknoprep> and i can't see anything wrong with the config[19:35:25] <teknoprep> i thought i could ask here to see if i was just missing something[19:35:34] <teknoprep> but i assume i am wrong[19:35:44] <cpm> dude, look at your mydestinations[19:35:48] <cpm> no way that is correct[19:36:15] <Aw0L> marl, what's up?[19:36:41] <cpm> your transport is probably fine. but if postfix isn't directed to relay mail for that domain, it's going to reject it.[19:37:47] <teknoprep> like i said i alreday fixed mydestinations[19:38:38] <teknoprep> debian:~# postconf mydestination[19:38:40] <teknoprep> mydestination = lglcable.com, localhost, localhost.localdomain[19:38:47] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[19:39:16] <teknoprep> Nov 19 09:12:52 debian postfix/smtpd[5894]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from wa-out-1112.google.com[209.85.146.179]: 450 4.1.1 <bob.umberger at lglcable dot com>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table[19:39:50] <teknoprep> let met setup a transport table without sql[19:42:27] *** mark-use has quit IRC[19:43:02] <cpm> cool, now, what says relay_domains[19:43:29] <cpm> or postconf relay_domains rather[19:44:28] <teknoprep> still says @mydestination[19:44:39] <cpm> in essence, we're looking for a line that points to hash:/path/to/transports[19:45:08] <teknoprep> transport_maps = proxy:mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_transports.cf[19:45:15] *** Moofius has joined #postfix[19:45:42] <Moofius> Is postfix capable to send emails without an smtp-server?[19:45:44] <cpm> wait a sec[19:46:27] <cpm> your transport entry for lglcable is in a mysql lookup? or a transport map?[19:46:38] <teknoprep> mysql lookup[19:47:29] <cpm> so, relay_domains = $transport_maps $mydestination[19:48:14] <teknoprep> no but it should[19:48:21] <ack_syn> zomfg Moofius, postfix is the smtpd :F[19:48:38] <cpm> okay, make it so[19:49:00] <cpm> reload postfix after[19:49:39] <Moofius> the only thing I want to do is like sending mails with sendmail with a console-command, but as sendmail wont let me send mails unless I am root I need to use something else[19:50:42] <cpm> Moofius, example please?[19:52:13] <Moofius> I dunno, I use "ActionMailer" to send mails, but I can't do it without the user root[19:53:15] <Moofius> But can postfix acts as a smtp server and send mails? That would be the easiest[19:54:51] <cpm> perhaps you need to speak with the folks who wrote ActionMailer. Postfix provides a drop-in binary replacement for sendmail[19:56:58] <teknoprep> cpm[19:57:06] <cpm> ?[19:57:09] <teknoprep> i can't find relay_domains anywhere in my config files[19:57:11] <teknoprep> lol[19:57:15] <cpm> :)[19:57:16] <cpm> add it.[19:57:22] <teknoprep> i don't know how its even being set right now[19:57:34] <cpm> defaults[19:57:47] <cpm> add it after your variables are set.[19:58:07] *** phnord has joined #postfix[19:58:11] *** mordaunt has joined #postfix[19:58:19] <cpm> relay_domains = $transport_maps $mydestination[19:58:30] <cpm> then restart, and check it with postconf,[19:58:35] <cpm> then try again.[19:58:55] <mordaunt> smtp_data_done_timeout how is this evaluated? is the timelimit for transferring data?[19:59:09] <teknoprep> debian:/etc/postfix# postconf relay_domains[19:59:10] <teknoprep> relay_domains = $transport_maps, $mydestination[19:59:12] <teknoprep> look good?[19:59:18] *** amrit|zzz is now known as amrit|wrk[19:59:19] <teknoprep> or do i take the , out?[19:59:34] <mordaunt> you can use comma or spaces teknoprep[19:59:38] <teknoprep> ok[19:59:43] <cpm> the ',' is okay, just not needed[20:00:30] <teknoprep> lol now it works[20:00:46] <teknoprep> wow that was a pain to miss that one setting[20:00:48] *** havvg has quit IRC[20:00:53] <teknoprep> ty for the help[20:01:15] <ack_syn> Moofius, u can configure a postfix and send e-mails in the shell[20:01:36] <ack_syn> somelike echo "ALSKD" | mailto -s "subject" Moofius at freenode dot org[20:02:27] *** teknoprep has left #postfix[20:02:46] *** githogori has joined #postfix[20:06:41] <cpm> yw[20:07:32] <Moofius> Is there a simple configuration example for making postfix be like a normal smtp-server (like them isps uses) but only accept mails from localhost?[20:08:26] <cpm> by default, postfix only accepts mail from/to localhost[20:09:44] *** ejovrh has joined #postfix[20:10:20] <ejovrh> hello all[20:10:46] <ejovrh> does anybody have a clue, what the reason behind this could be?:[20:10:47] <ejovrh> Nov 15 12:54:12 dmz3 postfix/smtpd[4095]: lost connection after DATA[20:10:47] <ejovrh> >from relay3.mail.interoute.net[154.15.247.58][20:11:07] *** theblackerbox has quit IRC[20:11:38] <Moofius> cpm: ok, but how to make it start a smtp-server then? I have added "postfix_enable="YES""[20:12:15] <cpm> never seen that before.[20:12:21] <cpm> How about 'postfix start'[20:15:24] *** unixcoder has joined #postfix[20:15:54] <Moofius> cpm: so I just need to start it and then I have a smtp-server?[20:18:04] *** Lucky7 has quit IRC[20:19:00] *** Twinkletoes has joined #postfix[20:23:37] *** pitakill has quit IRC[20:24:23] *** UQlev has quit IRC[20:28:27] *** ackz0r has joined #postfix[20:29:54] *** ack_syn has quit IRC[20:35:17] *** Zeit|awy has quit IRC[20:35:28] *** carl- has quit IRC[20:35:36] *** num000 has joined #postfix[20:39:00] <num000> i'm getting need fully-qualified hostname mail rejecting messages from some domains like nokia.com, in my main.cf i've smtpd_helo_required = yes configured. is this something I need to consider and is it my failure?[20:39:01] *** ackz0r is now known as ack_syn[20:39:29] <cpm> num000, example ?[20:40:30] <num000> cpm yes moment[20:40:57] <cpm> k[20:42:27] <num000> http://pastebin.com/d26c44767[20:42:38] <num000> i've pastet the last example,[20:42:58] <num000> but i did crop it properly sorry[20:43:12] <GuHHH> could anyone help me with postfix + amavis + clamav + spamassassin? its configured okay... but i dont get the tags for spam...[20:43:57] <cpm> num000, they aren't sending a fqdn helo, so they can piss off.[20:43:58] <ack_syn> http://www.explosm.net/comics/718/[20:44:01] <cpm> helo=<saempgwp02>[20:44:06] <cpm> no go[20:44:20] <cpm> num000, not your fault.[20:44:28] <num000> yes[20:44:37] <num000> he is sending only the hostname, not a real fqdn[20:44:48] <num000> but i do have this sometimes with some mail server[20:45:03] <num000> and important mails are getting lost of course, i don't know how to handle this[20:45:05] <cpm> nope. You shouldn't.[20:45:25] <cpm> helo should be fqdn, the rfc allows for ip address, but I reject those[20:45:28] <num000> i was thinking of taking the helo restriction off, but this would also open doors for spammers[20:45:34] <cpm> yes it would[20:45:50] <num000> this never ending spam shit doesn't end[20:45:57] <cpm> if you want to skip checks for certain machines, you can do with with access maps[20:46:03] <cpm> no, it never ends[20:47:01] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[20:47:52] <rob0> cpm never ends![20:49:03] *** evadave_ is now known as evadave[20:49:54] <cpm> never ever ends![20:50:10] <sepski> num000, you could try contacting the sending mta's postmaster and inform him of the issue.[20:50:11] <cpm> there is a way,[20:50:41] <cpm> sepski's answer is the correct one. But these days, most folk seem to dev/null postmaster email[20:52:34] <sepski> cpm, true. i'v had more succcess with asking the sending user, to go over to his it admin guy and have him call me, then to use postmaster@[20:52:52] <GuHHH> Passed SPAM, LOCAL [192.168.2.19] [192.168.2.19] <mailtest at itst dot net> -> <mailtest2 at itst dot net>, Message-ID: <47433ADC.7050809 at itst dot net>, mail_id: 0-M9NDZZO01f, Hits: 998.671, queued_as: A25E51B9E5, 341 ms[20:53:05] <GuHHH> its not tagging or adding headers... can anyone help?[20:57:03] *** duki has quit IRC[20:57:54] <GuHHH> i'm getting this error: warning: required alias not found: postmaster[20:57:59] <GuHHH> why that?[20:58:07] <GuHHH> never had this[20:58:44] <sepski> GuHHH, all domains should have a postmaster, a hostmaster and a abuse address that someone is reading.[20:58:50] *** duki has joined #postfix[20:59:04] <GuHHH> sepski: how do i configure it?[20:59:16] <sepski> like any other alias.[20:59:32] <sepski> or account[20:59:33] <GuHHH> sepski: /etc/aliases?[20:59:34] <sepski> depends on how you want it[20:59:40] <GuHHH> why i never needed it?[20:59:57] <sepski> GuHHH, you'v allways needed it, you just didn't notice it before now[21:00:16] <GuHHH> sepski: what i mean is that i never got this error[21:01:04] <rob0> Because you did something differently. Anyway now you know.[21:04:00] <Moofius> cpm: I get a timeout when smtp-ing to localhost with port 25[21:07:00] <GuHHH> damn....[21:07:11] <GuHHH> how can i solve it? im a kind noob :([21:15:42] <sepski> do you have only 1 domain with local unix user users ? then use /etc/aliases[21:16:14] <sepski> if you have virtual users and multiple domains, you'll have to add postmaster@ for each domain, and it should all end up in a account that someone actualy reads[21:30:52] *** _mXr is now known as mXr[21:36:28] *** ack_syn has quit IRC[21:53:41] *** stony has joined #postfix[21:54:10] <stony> hi[21:56:56] *** cpm has quit IRC[21:58:33] *** Supaplex has joined #postfix[22:01:27] *** brancaleone has joined #postfix[22:02:12] *** Supaplex has left #postfix[22:02:41] *** m_g has quit IRC[22:07:00] *** Lucky7 has joined #postfix[22:07:50] <Lucky7> well, I cant find a mailgraph irc chat, so i guess i'll ask here, is there anyway to get mailgraph.pl to actually output any log or information, its just sitting there frozen on me, and its not creating the mailgraph.rrd[22:08:04] *** hooch has quit IRC[22:08:45] *** khris has quit IRC[22:14:24] *** RichW has joined #postfix[22:14:32] <RichW> Anyone here use postfix with dbmail?[22:15:05] *** jellis has quit IRC[22:19:09] *** diveli has joined #postfix[22:20:04] *** Inssomniak has quit IRC[22:23:49] *** sepski has quit IRC[22:25:28] *** unixcoder has quit IRC[22:31:46] <adaptr> sure[22:39:15] <RichW> Im testing my mailserver, can someone email richie at richieward dot com ?[22:39:24] <adaptr> to what end ?[22:39:50] *** tarik has quit IRC[22:44:46] <rob0> 250-ubuntu ?? Wtf's that?[22:45:26] <adaptr> that's not RFC, I know that[22:45:37] <rob0> They must have patched.[22:45:40] <adaptr> heh[22:45:59] <adaptr> does postfix always put a space behind the 250, or is that fungible ?[22:46:16] <rob0> Anyway RichW, the server is up and answers, DNS looks good.[22:46:20] <adaptr> if it is, his HELO could be -ubuntu[22:46:54] *** pirho has joined #postfix[22:47:16] *** pirho has quit IRC[22:47:31] <rob0> Ah, of course. It's $myhostname ... not good.[22:47:54] *** pirho has joined #postfix[22:48:46] <RichW> I do run ubuntu[22:48:48] <rob0> $myhostname should be a name which resolves to your IP address.[22:48:55] <rob0> !basic[22:48:55] <knoba> rob0: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[22:49:19] <rob0> You'll also have to use relayhost, as you do not have rDNS.[22:49:26] <adaptr> heh his priority is 1, too :)[22:49:36] <adaptr> at least it's better than the bloke that set it to zero[22:50:04] <adaptr> don't people read RFCs anymore ? or even, I dunno, the friggin BIND ARM ?[22:50:14] <rob0> What's wrong with 0/1?[22:50:41] <rob0> Perhaps I should set my MX to 42.[22:50:48] <adaptr> well, zero won't work, as DNS doesn't support it, and 1 leaves you very little options in case you need to supplant it with a better one[22:51:02] <rob0> really? I thought it worked.[22:51:09] <adaptr> in other words, it 's pretty much the worst possible value[22:52:52] *** j_s has quit IRC[22:53:04] *** phnord has quit IRC[22:54:01] *** rootsvr has joined #postfix[22:54:10] *** adam33 has joined #postfix[22:54:32] <adaptr> hum... rfc 974 proves me wrong, as usual :)[22:54:46] <adaptr> blast that Mockapetris man[22:54:52] <adaptr> with his big brain[22:55:08] <rob0> bummer[22:55:47] <adaptr> MX prio 0 is perfectly normal, and is even mentioned in the examples in the RFC[22:55:57] <rob0> I see your point about leaving some "breathing room", but in practice I doubt it matters.[22:56:00] <adaptr> I think I'll be setting mine to 65535[22:56:09] <adaptr> just to be contrary[22:56:17] <rob0> 666[22:56:18] <adaptr> oh, or 666[22:56:21] <adaptr> heh[22:56:23] <rob0> gmta[22:56:25] <adaptr> done![22:56:40] <Gibbonz> 1337 anyday..[22:56:45] <adaptr> (it's not public, so nobody will see :([22:56:49] <rob0> 3.14159[22:57:12] <adaptr> that..might prove diffcult, unless you can encode it in a 16-bit fixed format[22:58:10] <rob0> I know, sigh.[22:58:16] *** coolblade has joined #postfix[22:58:32] <adaptr> I think you've found your next infinite project![22:58:51] <coolblade> I installed postfix from source and started it, never used it before, is it something I can just point my app at it and use it as a smtp server some how?[22:59:08] <rob0> !basic[22:59:09] <knoba> rob0: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[22:59:13] <rob0> !rob0[22:59:14] <knoba> rob0: "rob0" : a bot that reacts to newly joined users with reciting the !basic factoid :)[23:00:14] <adaptr> !rob1[23:00:15] <knoba> adaptr: Error: "rob1" is not a valid command.[23:00:20] <adaptr> should be[23:03:38] *** rootsvr has quit IRC[23:05:30] *** Yvo has joined #postfix[23:12:35] *** mordaunt has left #postfix[23:13:04] <Yvo> hi[23:15:14] <Yvo> I had a mailman list named "index", deleted the list and added a unix-user named "index"[23:15:15] <Yvo> but now the unix-user can't receive mails:[23:15:15] <Yvo> "User unknown in local recipient table"[23:15:15] <Yvo> can somebody tell me what to do now?[23:17:18] *** prebur has quit IRC[23:19:39] <adaptr> !local_recipient_maps[23:19:39] <knoba> adaptr: "local_recipient_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Lookup tables with all names or addresses of local recipients. A recipient address is local when its domain matches $mydestination, $inet_interfaces or $proxy_interfaces.[23:22:25] *** prebur has joined #postfix[23:23:05] <Yvo> I already read this: http://www.postfix.org/LOCAL_RECIPIENT_README.html but I still don't know what to do to solve the problem :-([23:24:01] <adaptr> you now have something else than unix:passwd.byname in it, is what I meant[23:24:07] <adaptr> because that is the default behaviour[23:24:57] <rob0> Unset local_recipient_maps to return to the default.[23:25:05] <adaptr> rob0++[23:25:08] <adaptr> as per usual[23:25:13] <rob0> shhhh[23:25:18] <adaptr> but it wil destory his mailman setup :)[23:25:22] <adaptr> *de-story*[23:25:26] <adaptr> heh[23:25:26] <rob0> haha[23:25:41] <rob0> oh I thought he wanted to remove mailman[23:25:48] <rob0> so, nm :)[23:26:18] <Yvo> I think it is already unset, because it looks like that:[23:26:19] <Yvo> #local_recipient_maps = unix:passwd.byname $alias_maps[23:27:05] <Yvo> "her" and "she" by the way ;-)[23:30:26] <rob0> Sorry. Anyway, you want to list your mailman aliases file in $alias_maps.[23:30:31] <rob0> !postmapq[23:30:32] <knoba> rob0: "postmapq" : You can check your lookups with the postmap command. Example: if you defined "transport_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/transport.cf" you may check this mapping by running "postmap -q domain.com mysql:/etc/postfix/transport.cf" and see if it works.[23:31:07] <rob0> postmap -q unix:passwd.byname index:[23:31:22] <rob0> (I think you need the colon, try with and without.)[23:32:01] *** brancaleone has quit IRC[23:32:30] *** Moofius has quit IRC[23:40:15] *** echelog has joined #postfix[23:40:17] <adaptr> if the domains are not in mydetsinations, they will never be considered[23:40:21] <RichW> I want it to just get the domain list from a database[23:40:34] <adaptr> local domains ? virtual ones ?[23:40:35] <pickcoder> !virtuals[23:40:35] <knoba> pickcoder: Error: "virtuals" is not a valid command.[23:40:38] <pickcoder> meh[23:40:52] <RichW> !virtual[23:40:53] <knoba> RichW: "virtual" : a way to configure additional domains and user accounts (that do not need to exist in your /etc/passwd). See: http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html[23:40:54] <RichW> ?[23:41:05] <coolblade> Can someone point me to some doc on how i can configure postfix as a smtp server? I looked all over the basic thing and i see 3 or 4 mentions of smtp but nothing thats a how-to set up smtp[23:41:39] <pickcoder> RichW: virtual_mailbox_domains[23:41:48] <adaptr> sorry, I only know how to set it up as a Quake server[23:42:23] *** nitbix_ has joined #postfix[23:42:41] *** deskdevil has joined #postfix[23:42:56] *** diabel- has joined #postfix[23:43:00] *** steevel_ has joined #postfix[23:43:00] *** FWP^^^ has joined #postfix[23:43:00] *** bjorn` has joined #postfix[23:43:00] *** steevel has joined #postfix[23:43:00] *** jduggan has joined #postfix[23:43:00] *** Mazon has joined #postfix[23:43:01] *** tm-30740-exa has joined #postfix[23:43:01] *** diabel has joined #postfix[23:43:01] *** nitbix has joined #postfix[23:43:01] *** twuHB has joined #postfix[23:43:01] *** Chattanuga has joined #postfix[23:43:02] *** diabel has quit IRC[23:43:02] <Yvo> rob0: sorry, can you perhaps explain in more detail? where do I have to execute this command and what exactly does it?[23:43:02] *** steevel has quit IRC[23:43:03] *** jduggan_ has joined #postfix[23:43:24] *** Bagualas has quit IRC[23:43:31] *** jduggan has quit IRC[23:44:14] *** Mazon has quit IRC[23:44:30] *** fwp has joined #Postfix[23:44:31] *** Mazon has joined #postfix[23:44:55] *** FWP^^^ has quit IRC[23:46:47] *** Chattanuga has quit IRC[23:46:47] *** twuHB has quit IRC[23:46:48] *** tm-30740-exa has quit IRC[23:46:50] *** bjorn` has quit IRC[23:46:50] *** nitbix has quit IRC[23:46:59] *** Lucky7 has quit IRC[23:47:00] *** tm-30740-exa has joined #postfix[23:48:03] *** capt-rogers has joined #postfix[23:48:20] *** bjorn` has joined #postfix[23:52:54] *** num000 has quit IRC[23:57:22] *** Aw0L has quit IRC[23:59:28] *** stony_ has joined #postfix