November 19, 2007 
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November 19, 2007 [00:02:16] *** z3ndrag0n has joined #postfix[00:07:42] *** havvg has quit IRC[00:08:27] <higuita> js_: check your transport file and your master.cf file[00:08:37] <js_> i can send and receive mail[00:08:48] <higuita> you are trying to use a transport that doesnt exists[00:08:49] <js_> but there are still a lot stuck in the queue[00:09:05] <js_> it happened when i turned off amavis before disabling it[00:09:27] <js_> theyre trying to use the local mta, which works when i test it[00:09:36] <js_> i just need those failed ones to be sent[00:09:58] <higuita> try postsuper -r ALL[00:11:10] <js_> alright[00:13:09] <js_> that seemed to do it[00:17:12] <eviljames> So I'm using postfix trying to send mail from local user root to nis user eviljames and it refuses to send.[00:17:22] <eviljames> I can post log output if someone doesn't mind helping me find what error I've made. :/[00:22:19] <higuita> eviljames: getent passwd eviljames[00:22:32] <eviljames> success.[00:23:05] <higuita> postconf -n |grep nis:[00:23:47] <eviljames> hm, no output.[00:24:04] <higuita> postconf local_recipient_maps[00:24:16] <higuita> you need to add here the "map" for nis[00:24:19] <eviljames> no, local_recipient_maps = unix:passwd.byname nis:passwd.byname $alias_maps[00:24:54] <higuita> dont know exactly what to put, but probably is... err... nis:passwd.byname :)[00:25:13] <eviljames> mail from nis user to root is successful.[00:25:29] <eviljames> mail from root to nis user is not successful.[00:25:32] <higuita> the from isnt being check usually[00:26:02] <higuita> what is the error in the log? user unknown?[00:26:42] <eviljames> just waiting for this to time out, then I'll post/pastebin log and do a different test.[00:28:05] <higuita> http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/postfix/2003-01/0953.html[00:28:08] <higuita> try this[00:28:39] <higuita> i have no experience with nis in postfix, but this post feels right 8)[00:30:07] <eviljames> Wow, that actually looks close to what I need.[00:38:53] <eviljames> Actually, that has seemingly created the effect I'm looking for?[00:38:57] <eviljames> j'sec tseting.[00:41:24] <eviljames> higuita: alias_maps I think created a big difference for me.[00:46:15] *** flami has joined #postfix[00:47:45] *** Tinozaure has quit IRC[00:48:06] *** btl has joined #postfix[00:50:33] <eviljames> Ok, so I have mail from outside sources working by setting eviljames at obscenely dot strangled.net as an alias for eviljames[00:50:50] <eviljames> Now that account has the ability to send/receive.[00:55:51] *** Zathraz has quit IRC[01:00:34] <btl> i setup postfix according to a tutorial (new to postfix/email), and things seem to mostly work. can send to mail at host.sharkhunt.org but when i send to sharkhunt.org i get email back saying relay access denied. i have sharkhunt.org setup as a virtual domain (host.sharkhunt.org as part of mydomain). anyone have any ideas?[01:01:23] <btl> http://pastebin.org/8538 <- postconf -n[01:01:32] *** war has quit IRC[01:13:12] <eviljames> mydestination = sharkhunt.org[01:13:19] <eviljames> or rather,[01:13:39] <eviljames> mydestination = sharkhunt.org, host.sharkhunt.org, localhost.sharkhunt.org, localhost[01:13:41] <btl> i thought you weren't supposed to have a virtual domain listed in mydestination?[01:13:48] <eviljames> oh[01:13:59] <eviljames> You probably know more about it than I do, I installed postfix yesterday.[01:16:05] <eviljames> then shouldn't sharkhunt.org be specified as a virtual_alias_domain ?[01:17:08] *** Filbert has quit IRC[01:17:52] *** flami has quit IRC[01:18:20] *** Motoko-chan has joined #postfix[01:23:24] *** tracer` has joined #postfix[01:28:35] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[01:43:11] *** duki has quit IRC[01:52:17] <js_> can i handle quota somehow even though my postfix version isn't patched for quota?[01:52:31] <js_> can that be handled via the imap server? (feels unlikely)[01:58:17] <sysmonk> js_: yes, it can be[01:58:24] <sysmonk> i.e. cyrus supports quotas[01:58:49] <sysmonk> also, there's a possibility of using system quotas[02:05:34] <js_> sysmonk: yes, but i mean, will the imap server be able to force a hard quota?[02:06:54] *** prebur has quit IRC[02:07:10] *** qiyong has joined #postfix[02:09:25] <sysmonk> js_: it's the problem of you IMAP server, not postfix[02:10:59] <js_> is it technically possible?[02:12:29] <shasta> sysmonk, are you sure?[02:12:42] <sysmonk> shasta: sure of what?[02:12:49] <shasta> sysmonk, how would you tell postfix not to accept incoming mails if user is over quota?[02:12:49] <sysmonk> js_: yes[02:13:25] <sysmonk> shasta: postfix will get an error when trying to deliver the mail to the backend[02:15:48] <shasta> i don't think js means standard unix disk quotas[02:16:12] <sysmonk> shasta: and i answered 'yes' to both standard unix quotas, and imap quotas[02:18:57] <js_> sysmonk: so instead of postfix delivering to maildir, it would need to deliver to imap? or am i confused?[02:19:41] <sysmonk> js_: it depends on your imap implementation[02:20:36] <sysmonk> if you're using something, which doesn't have anything like lmtp - then the solution would be to use system quotas, if the users are system ofcorse[02:21:03] <sysmonk> if you use something what has lmtp, and supports quotas - i.e. cyrus - then you just deliver to lmtp[02:21:09] <sysmonk> and cyrus takes care of quotas[02:21:10] <js_> the users are mysql, so i use the same system uid for it all[02:21:17] <js_> i see[02:21:20] <js_> i use dovecot right now[02:21:33] * sysmonk doesn't, so i can't help here[02:21:44] <js_> alright, but you pointed me in the right direction[02:21:44] <js_> thanks[02:22:19] <sysmonk> js_: if dovecot doesn't support quotas - and the users are virtual - then ... use the patch :)[02:22:38] <js_> it does support quotas, and i've set that part up accordingly[02:22:47] <js_> right now i'm messing around with making it a hard quota[02:23:11] <js_> but i actually didn't test if it already works[02:24:28] <js_> apparently it doesn't[02:25:25] <sysmonk> i think you should ask about it on #dovecot[02:25:37] <sysmonk> as at this phase it's dovecot's problem[02:25:48] <sysmonk> unless you're using VDA patch[02:26:07] <js_> VDA?[02:26:44] *** Filbert has joined #postfix[02:28:08] <sysmonk> yes[02:28:15] <sysmonk> !vda[02:28:15] <knoba> sysmonk: Error: "vda" is not a valid command.[02:28:18] <sysmonk> uh[02:29:21] <sysmonk> js_: http://vda.sf.net[02:30:33] <js_> ah, that patch enables virtual users?[02:31:06] <js_> or maybe it extends it[02:31:31] <js_> damnit, seems i need to discard the debian package and go with the source[02:32:46] <sysmonk> or change your os of choice *Grin*[02:32:47] <sysmonk> ;)[02:33:39] <sysmonk> also, getting a sysadmin and paying him for a work is preatty nice solution :)[02:33:56] <js_> yeah, well, this is me working towards becoming that person[02:42:31] *** rmayorga has quit IRC[02:42:48] *** cj_sze27 has joined #postfix[02:42:53] *** rmayorga has joined #postfix[02:43:38] *** githogori has joined #postfix[02:45:45] <js_> wohoo, i just realized how easy it is to patch postfix and build a custom debian package[02:45:58] <js_> sysmonk: should i be using VDA or another patch to enable quota?[03:00:25] *** btl has left #postfix[03:04:39] *** Tachy has joined #postfix[03:06:40] <js_> yay, it works[03:10:06] *** pirho has quit IRC[03:16:56] *** Tachy_ has quit IRC[03:35:18] *** De_Mon has left #postfix[04:00:09] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[04:02:48] *** marc77 has joined #postfix[04:11:10] *** diveli has quit IRC[04:17:06] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[04:28:41] *** skyion has quit IRC[04:41:45] *** skyion has joined #postfix[04:55:38] *** Filbert has quit IRC[04:57:18] *** hparker has quit IRC[05:02:03] *** steevel_ has quit IRC[05:02:08] *** steevel has joined #postfix[05:10:34] *** andi__ has joined #postfix[05:18:02] *** andi__ has quit IRC[05:28:13] *** phnord has quit IRC[05:35:27] *** z3ndrag0n has quit IRC[06:02:47] *** kk_CHN has joined #postfix[06:27:32] *** Filbert has joined #postfix[06:32:50] *** asmas has joined #postfix[06:37:10] *** bhagat has joined #postfix[06:39:50] *** arcleaf has joined #postfix[06:40:40] <arcleaf> hi, does anyone know how to fix this problem ?[06:40:41] <arcleaf> warning: SASL authentication failure: cannot connect to saslauthd server: No such file or directory[06:45:08] *** lkthomas has joined #postfix[06:45:11] <lkthomas> hey guys[06:45:51] <lkthomas> if I want the incoming email being pass to content filter, but not outgoing, what section should I add -o content_filter= ?[06:49:32] <f3ew> lkthomas, -o content_filter= in your incoming smtpd definition[06:57:11] *** atilaX has quit IRC[07:04:14] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[07:05:29] *** ming_zym has left #postfix[07:06:37] *** lkthomas_ has joined #postfix[07:06:46] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[07:08:21] *** aaronc_ has joined #postfix[07:09:57] *** z3ndrag0n has joined #postfix[07:13:07] <lkthomas_> f3ew: isn't outgoing ?[07:14:32] *** cj_sze27 has quit IRC[07:17:18] *** lineman60 has quit IRC[07:19:41] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[07:19:42] *** aaronc has quit IRC[07:23:09] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[07:23:59] *** lkthomas has quit IRC[07:29:00] *** sadmin1 has joined #postfix[07:29:34] <sadmin1> hi all how i add content filtering dictionary in postfix to check all emails body[07:30:08] *** z3ndrag0n has quit IRC[07:31:00] <f3ew> body_checks[07:34:42] <sadmin1> but what content i gave in body checks[07:34:56] <sadmin1> is there any list of contents that it blocks[07:36:04] <sadmin1> by default[07:39:23] <sadmin1> f3ew[07:39:28] <sadmin1> ?[07:47:37] *** kreg_lt_ has joined #postfix[07:48:47] <sadmin1> f3ew u there?[07:49:23] <f3ew> yes?[07:49:31] <f3ew> !body_checks[07:49:31] <knoba> f3ew: "body_checks" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup tables for content inspection as specified in the body_checks(5) manual page.[07:56:36] <sadmin1> i did that but by default it maintain a dictionary words or not[07:57:06] <sadmin1> in manual it saya[07:57:08] <sadmin1> /etc/postfix/main.cf:[07:57:09] <sadmin1> body_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix/body_checks[07:57:09] <sadmin1> /etc/postfix/body_checks:[07:57:09] <sadmin1> /^<iframe src=(3D)?cid:.* height=(3D)?0 width=(3D)?0>$/[07:57:09] <sadmin1> REJECT IFRAME vulnerability exploit[07:57:24] <sadmin1> dont specify any list of dictionary to block by default[07:58:43] *** UQlev has quit IRC[08:08:32] *** Zeit|awy_ has joined #postfix[08:13:46] *** marc77 has quit IRC[08:13:58] *** Zeit|awy has quit IRC[08:14:52] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[08:15:36] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[08:20:10] <sadmin1> knoba[08:20:18] *** zamba has left #postfix[08:20:36] <sadmin1> helo[08:25:22] *** duki has joined #postfix[08:25:52] *** aozturk has quit IRC[08:29:39] *** sadmin1 has quit IRC[08:30:47] *** asmas has quit IRC[08:33:04] *** Motoko-chan has quit IRC[08:35:24] *** boun has joined #postfix[08:40:01] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[08:46:26] <arcleaf> ermss[08:46:33] <arcleaf> what are this problem ?[08:46:34] <arcleaf> warning: connect to transport amavis: No such file or directory[08:52:23] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[08:53:42] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[08:59:40] *** prebur has joined #postfix[09:04:40] *** marc77 has joined #postfix[09:28:16] *** asmas has joined #postfix[09:36:26] *** ^Willie^Laptop has joined #postfix[09:43:24] *** Phil4 has joined #postfix[09:43:50] *** harobed has joined #postfix[09:44:31] <Phil4> hi guys, I pass postfix mail to procmail after receipt and before delivery using 'mailbox_command = procmail -a "$EXTENSION"'[09:44:42] *** jstrom has left #postfix[09:44:43] <Phil4> anyone know how to stop it doing this for locally delivered e-mail?[09:45:34] *** duki has quit IRC[09:46:12] *** Phil4 is now known as Phil[09:46:52] *** duki has joined #postfix[09:51:54] *** atilaX has joined #postfix[09:53:03] *** Tino has joined #postfix[09:54:24] *** Phil is now known as Phil|Away[09:54:44] *** Phil|Away is now known as Phil[09:55:13] *** mooch has quit IRC[09:56:58] *** Tino is now known as Tinozaure[10:03:21] *** war has joined #postfix[10:03:55] *** hollo has joined #postfix[10:04:28] <hollo> hi.. i want postfix to respond differently on 2 different ip's.. for instance use two different policy filters on 2 different ips.. is that possible?[10:05:11] <f3ew> yes[10:05:26] <f3ew> define a separate smtpd instance on each interface in master.cf[10:07:49] <hollo> f3ew, hmm.. i think i would need a bit help to get going with that? i have the master manual right here..[10:09:57] <f3ew> hollo , just copy the smtpd line[10:10:06] <f3ew> See the amavisd-new docs for an example[10:13:10] <whatever__> listen to Enya while you as you read[10:16:57] *** mark-use has joined #postfix[10:18:55] *** f3ew has quit IRC[10:19:47] *** cutmasta has joined #postfix[10:20:46] *** tracer` has quit IRC[10:25:40] <lkthomas_> hey guys[10:25:51] <lkthomas_> I am trying to use sasl to relay our main email server with postfix[10:26:11] <lkthomas_> but postfix complain that unknown user noreply at domain dot coim[10:26:12] <lkthomas_> com*[10:26:27] <lkthomas_> shouldn't it be asking the main email server first ?[10:31:00] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[10:33:33] <Phil> hi guys, I pass postfix mail to procmail after receipt and before delivery using 'mailbox_command = procmail -a "$EXTENSION"'. Anyone know how to stop it doing this for locally sent e-mail?[10:34:19] <Phil> if it helps, anyone sending locally should be authed using SASL[10:39:32] *** Phil is now known as Phil|Away[10:47:50] *** amrit|bbl is now known as amrit|zzz[10:50:16] *** carl- has joined #postfix[10:50:49] *** CyberCr33p has joined #postfix[11:08:59] *** af_ has joined #postfix[11:20:50] *** bjorn` has joined #postfix[11:21:24] <bjorn`> hi! when using spamassassin with postfix, is it possible to have it move all probable spam mail moved to a separate (imap) folder?[11:27:36] <LaZZaR> well i dont know, but which imap server do you have[11:28:18] *** LaZZaR has quit IRC[11:35:39] *** mark-use has quit IRC[11:51:34] *** ramoni has joined #postfix[11:52:23] *** eject_ck has joined #postfix[11:52:25] <bjorn`> roundcube[11:52:54] <bjorn`> erm, sorry[11:53:03] <bjorn`> dovecot i mean[11:53:55] <eject_ck> Hi all, I have configured postifx I now have task - save all sent and recived emails (for security reasons following our company security policy) how can I realize it ?[11:54:54] <eject_ck> I have idea with incoming emails - using aliases (it's ugly way) , but no have ideas about outgoing messages[11:55:33] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[11:57:42] *** CyberCr33p has quit IRC[12:03:42] *** etaylor has quit IRC[12:06:00] *** Phil|Away is now known as Phil[12:08:37] *** pitakill has quit IRC[12:09:19] *** arcleaf has quit IRC[12:10:36] <eject_ck> any suggestions ?[12:13:39] *** Phil has quit IRC[12:20:36] *** havvg has joined #postfix[12:23:41] *** af_ has quit IRC[12:23:52] *** McFly has joined #postfix[12:24:37] <McFly> How do I setup postfix to act as backup mx for my main server. I have the dns, set up correctly.[12:28:42] <eject_ck> McFly: it's easy[12:28:53] <eject_ck> everything what you need is ...[12:28:56] <eject_ck> sec[12:29:16] <eject_ck> on Backup host[12:31:28] *** kk_CHN has quit IRC[12:34:22] <McFly> eject_ck: yes?[12:34:49] *** _andrius has quit IRC[12:35:56] *** qiyong has quit IRC[12:38:22] <McFly> I set this: smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_sasl_authenticated, permit_mynetworks, reject_unauth_destination relay_domains = $mydestination, example.com relay_recipient_maps = but is that all? Don't I need to set anything else?[12:43:27] <McFly> eject_ck: You still here?[12:45:05] *** prebur has quit IRC[12:46:34] <eject_ck> yes[12:46:35] <eject_ck> sec[12:47:56] *** kk_CHN has joined #postfix[12:48:00] <eject_ck> just add to main.cf on backup server relay_domains = domain1.com, domain2.com[12:48:05] <eject_ck> sorry for delay[12:48:28] <eject_ck> that's all what you need[12:49:53] <eject_ck> to test -[12:49:53] <eject_ck> 1. start backup server[12:49:53] <eject_ck> 2. stop primary server and send emails, (btw, look to backup server tail -f /var/log/maillog)[12:49:53] <eject_ck> 3. start primary server[12:49:53] <eject_ck> 4. look for reciving backed letters from backup[12:54:54] <McFly> eject_ck: I read something about permit_mx_backup. Is that not needed then?[12:57:35] *** havvg has quit IRC[12:57:59] *** smesjz has joined #postfix[12:58:25] *** rokra has joined #postfix[13:00:29] *** CyberCr33p has joined #postfix[13:00:34] <CyberCr33p> hello[13:01:12] <eject_ck> McFly: not need[13:01:18] <CyberCr33p> drwx------ 2 postfix creta 512 Nov 19 13:24 cur[13:01:18] <CyberCr33p> drwx------ 2 postfix creta 512 Nov 19 13:24 new[13:01:18] <CyberCr33p> drwx------ 2 postfix creta 512 Nov 19 13:24 tmp[13:01:24] <eject_ck> just do steps[13:01:27] <CyberCr33p> I have these files for a e-mail account[13:01:33] <eject_ck> Maildir[13:01:35] <CyberCr33p> is it possible to configure postfix to chmod 770 them[13:01:38] <CyberCr33p> when it creates them?[13:01:40] <eject_ck> sure[13:01:50] <eject_ck> use umask[13:02:07] <CyberCr33p> ok[13:02:08] <CyberCr33p> thanks[13:02:11] <eject_ck> it's unix system administration task not related to postfix[13:02:14] <eject_ck> man umask[13:02:21] *** eject_ck has left #postfix[13:03:51] *** prebur 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it 30 seconds[13:52:01] *** cutmasta has left #postfix[13:52:29] *** cutmasta has joined #postfix[13:53:33] *** sparkleytone has joined #postfix[13:56:12] *** Signum_ has quit IRC[13:57:01] *** ishamael has joined #postfix[14:00:55] *** iishi has joined #postfix[14:02:18] <iishi> If I got postfix frontends doing all the av/as stuff and then to hand off the mail to the "backend" where the mailboxes are, what is best using SMTP or LMTP?[14:03:10] *** ams has joined #postfix[14:10:01] <Roobarb-Work> iishi: either[14:10:46] *** Zathraz has joined #postfix[14:11:41] *** ishamael has left #postfix[14:12:07] <Zathraz> hi. I need to batch SMTP a file info postfix. I am migrating from exim. The exim command for that is exim -bS. I think the postfix equivalent is sendmail -bs but at first glance this dfoes not seem to work well. Any suggestions please?[14:14:50] *** solar_ant has joined #postfix[14:14:53] <solar_ant> hi all[14:15:07] <solar_ant> I get this error[14:15:08] <solar_ant> SSL routines:SSL3_GET_SERVER_CERTIFICATE:certificate verify failed[14:15:11] <solar_ant> any leads ?[14:17:53] *** rokra has quit IRC[14:24:55] <eject_ck> CyberCr33p: threre? Sorry for delay I was not near pc[14:25:07] <eject_ck> what's with you are status ?[14:25:13] <CyberCr33p> eject_ck: no problem[14:25:16] <eject_ck> what with your status ?[14:25:25] <CyberCr33p> it still creates files as 700[14:25:40] <eject_ck> who is owner?[14:25:43] <CyberCr33p> postfi[14:25:45] <CyberCr33p> postfix[14:25:57] <eject_ck> what in main.cf ?[14:26:08] <CyberCr33p> postfix[14:26:11] <CyberCr33p> drwx------ 2 postfix creta 512 Nov 19 14:55 cur[14:26:12] <CyberCr33p> drwx------ 2 postfix creta 512 Nov 19 15:02 new[14:26:12] <CyberCr33p> drwx------ 2 postfix creta 512 Nov 19 15:02 tmp[14:26:16] <CyberCr33p> the problem is with permissions[14:26:21] <CyberCr33p> I need 770 perms[14:26:33] <CyberCr33p> so I can read e-mail using dovecot[14:26:46] <eject_ck> start dovecot with postfix user perm[14:28:36] <CyberCr33p> I don't think that will fix the problem[14:28:50] <CyberCr33p> because[14:28:59] <CyberCr33p> it needs group creta read/write access[14:29:26] <CyberCr33p> solution with umask is good idea[14:29:30] <CyberCr33p> but doesn't work[14:29:53] <eject_ck> use postfix group[14:30:24] <CyberCr33p> instead of group creta to use postfix group?[14:30:35] *** braden` has joined #postfix[14:30:38] <braden`> Hello[14:30:38] <CyberCr33p> I have group quotas[14:30:45] *** braden` is now known as Braden`[14:31:15] <Braden`> I am having a problem to where if I send mail from the server it sends ok, but if I try to do it via pop3 I get "relay access denied"[14:31:26] <Braden`> I can't seem to find the solution in the documentation =/[14:34:04] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[14:38:24] *** rokra has joined #postfix[14:39:58] *** brancaleone has joined #postfix[14:42:07] *** Ryushin has joined #postfix[14:43:05] <Braden`> Anyone?[14:45:06] <rob0> !basic[14:45:09] <knoba> rob0: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[14:45:19] *** havvg has quit IRC[14:46:20] <Roobarb-Work> how does one SEND mail via POP3 ?[14:46:44] <Roobarb-Work> (rhetorical question...)[14:46:59] <ams> Let alone how you get a relay access denied report from a pop3 server...[14:47:51] <whatever__> knoba, http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html#relay_from[14:49:55] <whatever__> ams, that is not helping him that is being sarcastic, the guy might not be as professional as you are so the best thing to do is to set him on the right path if you can. but then again that is only my opinion[14:50:23] <rob0> BS.[14:51:04] <rob0> The thing is, too many people try to take on mail services without even understanding what the protocols are and do. IRC is a lousy place to try to learn the basics.[14:51:53] <Braden`> Thank you, that document worked great![14:51:54] <Braden`> =][14:55:31] *** Braden` has left #postfix[14:56:43] <CyberCr33p> eject_ck: I found the solution with umask, I add umask 007 on my postfix start script and now it works[14:56:54] <CyberCr33p> drwxrwx--- 2 postfix creta 512 Nov 19 15:31 cur[14:56:54] <CyberCr33p> drwxrwx--- 2 postfix creta 512 Nov 19 15:54 new[14:56:54] <CyberCr33p> drwxrwx--- 2 postfix creta 512 Nov 19 15:54 tmp[14:56:55] <CyberCr33p> :D[14:58:23] <whatever__> rob0, no doubt about it. yet I don't see how this as a good reason why to be rude with others?[15:00:30] <ams> whatever__: Professional? Knowing basic protocols? If someone doesn't know the difference between pop3 and smtp then they shouldn't be setting up a mail server.[15:00:39] *** rokra has quit IRC[15:05:01] <whatever__> ams, yet another correct statement, you are absolutely right, then i believe you would want to tell him that and not being sarcastic? i am sorry it is not my place to say what is correct or what is not but again it is only my opinion[15:05:21] <rob0> I didn't see any real rudeness to him. I'm more concerned about the rudeness coming the other way. Someone who clearly lacks the basics is wasting my time here.[15:06:13] <CyberCr33p> rob0, if you think someone waste your time then don't reply[15:07:50] <ams> IRC is a lovley place to get quick info for short questions.[15:07:51] <rob0> When I have questions, I try to prepare. In preparing, I either find the answer or make it a smarter question.[15:10:29] <whatever__> rob0, exactly, see that would have been an excellent advice for whoever is asking basic "ignorant" questions. I think it should be included in the welcome message[15:10:30] <ams> whatever__: My mission in life is not to lecture those who do not wish to spend a single second looking things up.[15:10:31] * cpm tries to come up with a really stupid question to ask rob0[15:10:58] <ams> cpm: "Can I use postfix for sending mail?"[15:11:17] <cpm> rob0, will postfix work with my gmail accounts?[15:11:22] <cpm> thanks amrit|zzz[15:11:27] <cpm> ams rather[15:12:29] <rob0> :)[15:12:47] <rob0> whatever__: see /TOPIC[15:15:43] <ams> I really miss the days of sendmail... Only people with guts would configure that.[15:17:34] <cpm> I'm wondering what article was published a few months ago that convinced the hordes that they needed to run postfix on their ubuntu boxes[15:18:20] <cpm> and told them to come here if they had questions[15:19:06] <ams> Sounds like a great plan.[15:19:28] <ams> I think we both are grumpy old BOFH's ;-)[15:19:32] <cpm> all are[15:19:37] <rob0> At least Debian defaults to Exim.[15:20:42] <rob0> I think it's inevitable, that competent people who try to help out in places like this end up grumpy and abrasive.[15:20:46] <roe> that bugs the crap out of me. you don't happen to know why debian defaults that way do you?[15:21:18] <cpm> rob0, I dunno. Seems like things started getting really bad in here a few months ago.[15:21:23] <cpm> something changed[15:21:28] <rob0> Debian is a mystery. Their Postfix non-default defaults piss me off.[15:21:31] <cpm> it was pretty good for many years[15:21:49] <ams> rob0: That explains why I'm having so many problems with postfix on debian....[15:21:54] <shasta> ok, that's my fault, i joined here few months ago[15:22:00] <cpm> ah ha!@[15:22:23] <rob0> We do seem to have a higher percentage of PEBKAC questions.[15:22:39] <ams> I don't think I've had a single week where I haven't heard users comment about the mail here.[15:23:04] <ams> rob0: Shouldn't that be PEAD (Problem Exists At Debian)? ;-)[15:24:19] <rob0> :)[15:24:26] <roe> I don't have any complaints with the debian defaults[15:25:01] <rob0> roe, do you answer any of the dozens of broken chroot questions? :)[15:25:47] <roe> oh, hehe, the first thing I usually do when setting up postfix is unchroot it[15:25:55] *** eject_ck has left #postfix[15:26:02] <roe> sasl is a bitch too chrooted[15:26:20] <cpm> or the almost universal "Are you running chroot" "No" "how do you know ?" "I've checked"[15:26:44] <cpm> and of course, every single time they are running chroot.[15:26:51] <ams> hehe[15:26:58] <roe> just be glad ubuntu hasn't released a gui for postfix because then, they would say "because I unchecked the box"[15:27:52] <ams> I really need tof ix the spam setup here.... Any one got any nice setups? Debian's defaults are making me vomit.[15:28:25] <roe> I would be happy if debian installed nullmailer as a default mta for the majority of the machines (in my world at least) the only thing the mta does is send along logs/actions from various daemons[15:28:37] <rob0> I love the inet_interfaces questions. "$DISTRO sets inet_interfaces to prevent clueless people from running a real MTA on the Internet."[15:28:59] <ams> roe: While nullmailer is niceish, I'd like to see a queuing mechanism in it...[15:29:00] <rob0> !cheatsheet[15:29:01] <knoba> rob0: "cheatsheet" : http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt : A HOWTO for pre-DATA spam control.[15:29:10] <ams> rob0: Danke.[15:29:20] <Edward123> i could possibly benefit from that doc actually[15:29:23] <roe> ams, aye, that would be nice[15:29:33] <Edward123> i'm scanning 35k/messages a day by 5pm[15:29:48] <ams> roe: That is really only my wish for nullmailer, and why I still use a full fledged setup on dummy boxes.[15:29:52] <rob0> Here, I don't even need content filtering.[15:30:45] <ams> Lucky you.[15:30:46] <ams> :)[15:30:51] <Edward123> lucky you indeed[15:31:02] <Edward123> ams, what kind of setup do you have?[15:33:01] <ams> postfix, and spamassassin... Mostly default, but spamassassin lives its own life..[15:33:41] <ams> Like despite the main tld being whitelisted, and excluded in everypossible way, spamassassin still likes to decide that mail sent to and from the main domain is spam.[15:33:52] <ams> s/tld/domain/ -- jeez... early in the morning still?[15:35:26] <ams> Edward123: That is, a very plain postfix configuration where all mail is sent to spamc, and that is really it.[15:36:18] <Edward123> ams, considered amavisd-new at all?[15:37:24] <Edward123> i run mailscanner myself but i don't recommend it[15:38:04] <whatever__> Edward123, why not?[15:38:11] <ams> Edward123: Not really.[15:39:06] <ams> Edward123: Doubt it would really help, since it would still be using a broken spamassassin...[15:39:08] <Edward123> whatever__, well the postfix community says some valid things about the perils of not using lmtp and fiddling with the mail queue directly - do you run it yourself?[15:39:11] <ams> And god knows that this is broken.[15:39:18] <Edward123> ams, sure, was just curious[15:39:31] <ams> Not sure what is wrong, or how to fix it either.[15:40:13] <Edward123> ams, does spamassassin lint?[15:41:00] <whatever__> Edward123, I am running MS but it is a dedicated CF/FE server[15:41:29] <Edward123> CF/FE?[15:42:09] <whatever__> sorry, i meant front end, content filtering[15:44:26] <ams> Edward123: Yeah.[15:44:50] <ams> Edward123: It isn't such a problem, more like spamassassin being a stupid !@!@$[15:45:33] <ams> Edward123: It filters mail, but it filters it very wrong.[15:46:20] <roe> it is only doing what you told it to do[15:46:25] *** sadmin1 has joined #postfix[15:46:26] <ams> Yeah. ;-)[15:47:25] <sysmonk> ams: amavisd-new has whitelist sender maps, which should be the solution for you[15:52:24] <ams> sysmonk: I whitelisted the whole place, spamassassin still thinks that mail sent to/from the domain is spam.[15:52:26] <ams> It is quite peculiar.[15:53:30] *** orogor has joined #postfix[15:53:46] <orogor> hello here[15:54:10] <sysmonk> ams: when using amavisd-new, it is amavis who is responsible for marking the mail as spam, ar not[15:54:23] <orogor> something weird did happen with the web server, untill postfix reboot , it was delivering mails to :var:mail instead of : /home/*/mail/mbox[15:54:35] <orogor> this was happenign during a few hours[15:54:51] <sysmonk> even thou you've got 100 score from spamassassin, amavisd-new is able to still send it to the mailbox[15:54:57] <orogor> anyone would know the reason of this or how to fix mail alreasdy delivered int he bad place ?[15:55:00] <ams> sysmonk: Yeah well, mucking around with such things isn't fun in a setup that is activley used :-)[15:55:21] *** havvg has joined #postfix[15:55:29] <sysmonk> ams: you can always make a copy of the setup, test the new stuff, and then merge it[15:55:40] <ams> True.[15:55:45] *** solar_ant has quit IRC[15:55:50] <ams> But kinda hard to test it.[15:56:01] <ams> Only thing you will get to know is that it is delivering mail.[15:56:45] <sysmonk> there are always ways to test it.[15:56:52] *** asmas has quit IRC[15:58:00] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[15:58:13] <ams> sysmonk: Nope, it is infact impossible to test it to a level that one can trust it well.[15:58:21] <sysmonk> heh[15:58:28] <sysmonk> ams: you're saying it to me ? :)[15:58:29] * cpm chuckles[15:58:44] <sysmonk> ams: sorry, how much users and how much mail are you getting per day?[15:58:47] <ams> (then again, I would probobly trust anything more than this setup ;-)[15:58:50] <orogor> .... anyone has any idea about theses mails delivered to the bad place ?[15:59:29] * orogor guesses no[15:59:31] <ams> sysmonk: A couple 10k or so.[15:59:39] <sysmonk> ams: users?[15:59:46] <ams> sysmonk: Messages, users are about 100.[16:00:00] <ams> sysmonk: customer support thingie, so we get lots of inbound, but not much outbound.[16:00:03] <sysmonk> ams: multiply that by 1000 and you'll get my setup[16:00:09] <sysmonk> and then try talking about 'not able to test it'[16:00:38] *** narcoclepsy has joined #postfix[16:00:44] <sysmonk> ams: err, multiply that by 1000 and you'll get the user count here, and the mail count is much bigger[16:00:52] <ams> sysmonk: It is infact impossible to test, if you want to test it you;d have to generate all possible input, then send it to each and everyuser.[16:01:08] <narcoclepsy> i am trying to set up postfix, i can telnet to port 25 and mock up a test email but i don't see it showing up anywhere... where should i be looking? Thanks...0[16:02:07] <ams> sysmonk: Do the math on input, and output. And you will see why it is impossible to test it 100%, or even 70%.[16:02:56] <sysmonk> ams: yeah, then i must be lucky by migrating and testing all those 200k+ users[16:03:16] <ams> sysmonk: You didn't test all those 200k+ users, you tested a subset and made several assumptions.[16:03:21] <sysmonk> must be the probability theory[16:03:45] <ams> Seriously, if you could do such a test then you could easily guarantee that no spam comes through.[16:03:55] <ams> It is a simple NP problem.[16:04:14] * cpm drops a nail, it hits the ground, but is supposed to assume that the same thing will not happen when he goes to drop a bucketful of nails.[16:05:23] <sysmonk> ams: um, a bit of scripting, a bit of data mining ( for tests ), and you've got a test bed[16:05:42] <ams> sysmonk: Yeah, that doesn't do _all_ possible tests, just a good subse.[16:05:47] <sysmonk> and asuming your theory, you can't even ssh to the server, or else it MAY crash something, and uh, bad things may happen[16:05:51] * cpm just drops the nail, and goes for it.[16:06:06] <sysmonk> cpm: same here[16:06:08] <sysmonk> ;PPP[16:06:41] <sysmonk> ams: uh, then how did you try to add a domain whitelisting? didn't you fear that it could crash your system?[16:06:50] <sysmonk> i mean, you'd have to test it before doing it ![16:06:59] * cpm tests rob0[16:07:02] <sysmonk> and you didn't !!!![16:07:28] * sysmonk tests cpm testing rob0[16:08:43] <ams> sysmonk: You realise that I have written 10k line long assembler programs without testing and that they worked the first time?[16:08:44] <ams> ;)[16:09:46] *** jellis has joined #postfix[16:10:27] <cpm> real men don't test their code[16:10:46] <ams> Aye.[16:10:59] <roe> I tied my shoes this morning without testing the lace strength[16:11:18] <ams> I always test my laces actually...[16:11:32] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[16:11:33] * cpm is too lazy to tie shoes[16:11:43] <ams> Though today I have no lace shoes.[16:11:53] * rob0 has slip-on sandals today[16:12:29] <rob0> I wear those for my 20-second commute to work. Then I take 'em off.[16:13:06] <ams> Mmm.. sandals.. to cold for that here. :/[16:14:07] *** prebur65 has quit IRC[16:14:48] *** Sitting_Bull has joined #postfix[16:14:49] *** jellis has quit IRC[16:14:55] <Sitting_Bull> hi[16:15:02] *** CyberCr33p has quit IRC[16:15:04] *** jellis has joined #postfix[16:15:44] <Sitting_Bull> running postfix with virtual domains and mailboxes in /home/vmail/domain.com/mailuser[16:15:55] <Sitting_Bull> using feahmail to get mail from dropbox[16:16:01] <Sitting_Bull> *fetchmail[16:16:38] <Sitting_Bull> mail ends up in /var/mail root[16:16:48] <sadmin1> hey aaronc u there[16:16:52] <Sitting_Bull> how do i get it to end up in the users mailboxes[16:17:00] <Sitting_Bull> anyone have any idea[16:18:15] *** orogor has quit IRC[16:20:53] <Signum> Sitting_Bull: did you tell fetchmail where to deliver the emails?[16:21:28] *** narcoclepsy has quit IRC[16:21:29] <Signum> Sitting_Bull: Like... "is user at my dot server here" syntax[16:22:25] *** afnarcizo has joined #postfix[16:22:43] <Sitting_Bull> that's the thing Signum how do i tell it to send it to the right user... how does it distritbute the mail[16:23:01] <Sitting_Bull> sorry bit new to this whole virtual domain thing[16:23:41] *** narcoclepsy has joined #postfix[16:23:46] <Signum> Sitting_Bull: Generally I wouldn't use fetchmail but rather receive the mails directly on your server.[16:24:03] <Signum> Sitting_Bull: But if you like to use fetchmail then see it's documentation (e.g. man page) on the syntax.[16:24:15] <narcoclepsy> i see my mail failing and ending up in the root mailbox with the following message- failed: create maildir file /home/jeff ..... permission denied[16:24:24] <Sitting_Bull> jip wanted to do that but unfortunately cleint didn't want to listen[16:24:25] <Sitting_Bull> hehe[16:24:40] <Signum> Sitting_Bull: Fetchmail allows you to deliver emails to a certain user. Like "fetch email from server X as user A with password B via POP3 and send those mails to local user Y"[16:24:41] <narcoclepsy> do i have to maildirmake with postgres user?[16:24:50] <narcoclepsy> or chown/chgrp that subdirectory to postgres?[16:25:03] <Sitting_Bull> k cool thanks Signum[16:25:07] <Sitting_Bull> will check it out[16:25:31] *** afnarcizo has quit IRC[16:25:34] <Signum> narcoclepsy: maildirmake should not be necessary. are you using local or virtual mailboxes?[16:25:42] <iishi> Sitting_Bull: an alternative to "fetchmail" is "getmail" and you don't have to reinject mail to deliver mail..[16:25:44] <Sitting_Bull> so it's actualy fetchmail doing the distributing[16:25:46] <narcoclepsy> local i beleive[16:26:10] <iishi> Sitting_Bull: http://pyropus.ca/software/getmail/[16:26:11] <narcoclepsy> i never set up postfix before so i am learning how to break it a lot...[16:26:19] <Sitting_Bull> thanks iishi will check it[16:26:23] <Signum> narcoclepsy: don't worry :)[16:26:32] <Signum> narcoclepsy: do you use "home_mailbox"?[16:26:38] <narcoclepsy> no[16:26:47] <narcoclepsy> i used /home/jeff/.maildir[16:26:52] <narcoclepsy> as the user mail directory[16:26:57] <Signum> narcoclepsy: where did you set that?[16:27:04] <narcoclepsy> in the main.cf i think[16:27:19] <narcoclepsy> yeah[16:27:27] <narcoclepsy> home_mailbox = .maildir/[16:29:28] <narcoclepsy> heh at least it delivered to root correctly. it can't all be wrong.[16:29:37] * narcoclepsy is making friends with google.[16:29:39] *** prebur65 has joined #postfix[16:33:09] *** jhaig has joined #postfix[16:34:05] <Zathraz> sorry to ask again. But I have a major issue. How do I process a bsmtp file from the commandline into postfix please?[16:35:06] *** trym has joined #postfix[16:35:42] <trym> dspam suddenly core dumps - so I decided to remove the content filter - however the mails in the queue still try to go through it - is there a way to force those emails through without using the content filter?[16:36:51] *** Sitting_Bull has left #postfix[16:37:43] <Zathraz> I am fine with a reply like rtfm (if I could find it in a manual that is)[16:39:32] <jduggan> is it possible to always bcc a user then transport to another MTA?[16:40:09] <jduggan> s/user/domain[16:44:13] <trym> same goes for dns lookups[16:44:30] <trym> if I change a hostname to a different ip - things in the queue still try the old thing[16:46:48] <Signum> narcoclepsy: I think you need to create ~/.maildir but the structure beneath it is automatically created (new, cur, tmp)[16:49:48] <narcoclepsy> i just got it actually[16:50:07] <narcoclepsy> i chowned / chgrp'd everything to match the user whos mailbox it is[16:50:16] <narcoclepsy> so now i can see the files showing up there[16:50:32] <narcoclepsy> i just need to get pine to be happy about it now. Thanks Signum[16:50:36] * trym cries[16:51:55] *** narcoclepsy has quit IRC[16:52:56] <trym> Im willing to give away a huge hug to anyone that tries to help out :)[16:53:40] <trym> to summarize: I have mails which are temporarily deferred. These queue files have content filter stored. I want to remove that content filter parameter.[16:54:06] *** ^Willie^Laptop has quit IRC[16:56:45] *** j_s has joined #postfix[16:57:49] *** sadmin1 has quit IRC[17:02:02] <iishi> trym: postsuper -r ALL[17:02:03] *** binary010 has joined #postfix[17:02:05] <binary010> Hey all[17:02:35] *** zez_zez has joined #postfix[17:04:10] <binary010> i'm trying to get vacation.pl working with postfix+mysql i have the entry added in master.cf, added vacation table in mysql and under trasport table i have domain.com virtual:[17:04:36] <binary010> if i put domain.com vacation[17:05:04] <binary010> in i'm getting an mail.alias table not found[17:05:07] <binary010> error[17:06:05] <binary010> can give me tips and guide would be appreciated[17:06:12] *** Lucky7 has joined #postfix[17:06:38] <Lucky7> Anyone use mailscanner here?[17:07:09] <Lucky7> trying to gather information on it[17:13:10] <whatever__> Lucky7, > #mailscanner[17:16:14] *** smesjz has quit IRC[17:16:19] *** Ryushin has quit IRC[17:23:56] <binary010> anyone here have experiance with vacation.pl with postfix/mysql[17:25:17] <cpm> binary010, I gave up on it. build my own based on yaa.pl[17:25:25] <cpm> s/build/built[17:30:43] *** goo has quit IRC[17:30:52] *** solar_ant has joined #postfix[17:31:47] <binary010> cpm: it's working for me[17:31:54] <cpm> cool[17:31:59] <binary010> its complaining about some alias table missing in mysql[17:32:30] <binary010> Command died with status 255:[17:32:30] <binary010> "/var/spool/vacation/vacation.pl". Command output: DBD::mysql::st execute[17:32:30] <binary010> failed: Table 'mail.alias' doesn't exist at /var/spool/vacation/vacation.pl[17:32:30] <binary010> line 39, <STDIN> line 35. DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Table 'mail.alias'[17:32:30] <binary010> doesn't exist at /var/spool/vacation/vacation.pl line 39, <STDIN> line 35.[17:32:51] <binary010> the the bounce back email i get[17:33:01] *** Twinkletoes has joined #postfix[17:33:06] <binary010> and i don't know what it should contain[17:33:41] <binary010> cpm: you have any idea ?[17:38:27] *** tracer` has joined #postfix[17:42:25] *** roe has quit IRC[17:43:02] *** jhaig has left #postfix[17:47:49] *** tracer` has left #postfix[17:52:52] *** roe has joined #postfix[17:54:10] *** mark-use has joined #postfix[17:54:33] <trym> iishi: thanks a heap :)[17:55:46] *** roe has joined #postfix[18:01:19] *** jhaig has joined #postfix[18:02:27] *** roe has quit IRC[18:03:10] <jhaig> Apologies for the simple question (I've only just started using postfix). I can "telnet localhost 25" but attempting from a remote machine I get connection refused. nmap shows that port 25 is not open but there is no firewall. Is there something I need to set to allow remote connection? Thanks.[18:03:27] <rob0> !inet_interfaces[18:03:28] <knoba> rob0: "inet_interfaces" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The network interface addresses that this mail system receives mail on. By default, the software claims all active interfaces on the machine. The parameter also controls delivery of mail to user at [ip dot address]. If your server does not react to connection attempts on a certain interface you should check this setting.[18:03:41] <jhaig> Thanks.[18:04:14] *** cutmasta has quit IRC[18:04:36] <rob0> Just unset that. Distributors set that to prevent people from running real MTAs on the Internet, unintentionally.[18:05:58] <jhaig> If I set it to inet_interfaces=all (one of the examples) will this do what I need?[18:07:04] <jhaig> That's worked. Thanks.[18:07:26] *** roe has joined #postfix[18:10:11] *** binary010 has quit IRC[18:13:08] *** roe_ has joined #postfix[18:13:43] *** roe has quit IRC[18:25:40] *** Zathraz has quit IRC[18:27:23] *** dan__t has left #postfix[18:31:34] *** sadmin has joined #postfix[18:33:08] *** solar_ant has quit IRC[18:33:57] <jhaig> I think I cannot set up my own mailserver anyway. The ISP is blocking port 25 (I think). :-([18:34:00] *** prebur65 has quit IRC[18:35:46] *** rmayorga has quit IRC[18:35:47] <sadmin> hi i did use body_checks in postfix all good[18:35:52] <rob0> !relayhost[18:35:52] <knoba> rob0: "relayhost" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The default host to send non-local mail to when no entry is matched in the optional transport(5) table. When no relayhost is given, mail is routed directly to the destination.[18:35:58] <rob0> jhaig: ^^[18:36:11] <rob0> set that to your ISP's smtp server[18:36:20] <sadmin> i want to block text in 2 lines how i make it in block_checks[18:36:27] <sadmin> Regards,[18:36:30] <sadmin> Mohin raza[18:36:40] <sadmin> that i wan to block in all emails body[18:36:41] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[18:37:00] <sadmin> how i say next line in body check as regular expression[18:37:25] <jhaig> rob0: Is that for incoming or outgoing mail?[18:37:33] <rob0> No, header/body checks act on single lines only. This cannot be done without a more complete content filter.[18:37:46] <rob0> !basic[18:37:47] <knoba> rob0: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[18:37:50] <rob0> jhaig: ^^[18:38:21] <jhaig> Thanks.[18:42:22] <sadmin> aaronc_[18:42:26] <sadmin> u there[18:43:21] *** gpled has joined #postfix[18:43:51] <gpled> has anyone had trouble with syslogs needing to be restarted, if you restart postfix?[18:44:05] <Dominian> nope[18:44:45] <gpled> i wonder what is causing this. sometimes if i restart postfix, i get not mailloging. i have to restart syslog, then postfix will start logging again.[18:45:02] <gpled> not/no[18:45:26] *** jhaig has quit IRC[18:49:26] *** goo has joined #postfix[18:50:34] *** ramoni has quit IRC[18:50:40] <gpled> syslog.conf:[18:50:50] <gpled> mail.* -/var/log/maillog[18:50:59] <gpled> any idea what the - is for?[18:52:51] *** rmayorga has joined #postfix[18:54:34] <gpled> found it: The - may only be used to prefix a filename if you want to omit sync'ing the file after every write to it.[18:56:06] *** jel has joined #postfix[18:56:44] <jel> hi all. How do I disable bounce messages? I know it's not ideal, but that's what I need for now.[18:57:33] *** growltiger_ has quit IRC[18:57:33] *** Severed_Head_Of_ has joined #postfix[18:58:08] <sadmin> rob0 what i do for complex content filtering[18:58:39] <whatever__> jel, you do know that you might eventually block delivery reports as well?[18:58:42] <sadmin> do body check filter some thing by default from his dictionary[19:00:04] <jel> whatever__: yep[19:01:27] *** harobed has quit IRC[19:03:25] *** teknoprep has joined #postfix[19:03:28] <teknoprep> hi all[19:03:51] <teknoprep> i am having a problem with postfix... and setting it up as a mail gateway...[19:04:04] <teknoprep> Nov 19 11:51:54 redwall postfix/qmgr[2399]: 90BAB20087: to=<bob.umberger at lglcable dot com>, relay=none, delay=1379, status=deferred (delivery temporarily suspended: connect to 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]: Connection refused)[19:04:12] <jel> I figured the most obvious way to prevent bounces would be to change bounce to discard in main.cf, but that gives errors about unknown attributes (or something to that effect)[19:05:28] <teknoprep> that is one of the emails at my office here.. but the problem is its trying to send it to localhost... even tho i have this in the transport mappings file... lglcable.com smtp:[10.10.20.111:25][19:05:36] <teknoprep> .lglcable.com smtp:[10.10.20.111:25][19:05:44] <teknoprep> hmm its not putting the space in when i hit enter[19:06:46] <teknoprep> any idea/[19:06:55] <sadmin> hey rob0 i want my regular expression not be case ensitive[19:07:02] <whatever__> jel, well only if you want, you can block the empty return-path messages[19:07:19] <sadmin> i do in body_check filr /Azhar jejje/i is it ok[19:07:34] <jel> whatever__: I thought that was needed for things other than bounces. No?[19:08:36] <jel> teknoprep: have you rebuilt the mapfile's db file yet?[19:09:26] <teknoprep> probably not[19:09:34] <teknoprep> how would i go about doing that?[19:09:39] <jel> teknoprep: man postmap[19:10:01] *** brancaleone has quit IRC[19:10:35] <sadmin> i did but its case sensitive Azhar Mehmood if thats the case then it blocks else email goes[19:10:50] <sadmin> i want to do it not case sensitive[19:11:40] <whatever__> jel, yes auto responds as well rfc3834[19:12:58] <jel> mmm, OK, that's not too serious.[19:13:01] <jel> How would I go about that?[19:14:01] <gpled> jel: if you email someone, and it does not go, do you want to know about it?[19:14:49] <jel> gpled: generally yes, but for the moment, it's a necessary sacrifice, and the lesser of two evils[19:17:00] *** mark-use has quit IRC[19:17:02] <jel> the users affected are the type to pickup phones and ask if their mail hasn't been replied to within 15 minutes, so I doubt it'll be a big deal.[19:17:33] *** sadmin has quit IRC[19:17:44] *** stone has joined #postfix[19:18:23] <jel> gpled: although, Ideally, I'd still like to get the reports to postmaster.[19:19:45] <jel> hmm. Gotta go, sorry.[19:19:51] *** jel has quit IRC[19:25:03] *** ExElNeT has joined #postfix[19:25:48] *** teknoprep has left #postfix[19:26:46] *** hparker has joined #postfix[19:29:30] <ExElNeT> i have set myhostname = hostname.domain.com and mydomain = domain.com ... if if try to send an email using those settings i get an error message from the receviing server that the sender address username at username dot domain.com cant be found ... why does postfix add the username. infronnt of the domain? should it be username at hostname dot domain.com??[19:31:06] *** asymetrixs has joined #postfix[19:33:37] *** marc77 has quit IRC[19:39:36] <asymetrixs> i set up an postfix + mysql and courier using this tutorial: http://www.2linux.net/postfix-mysql-courier.html - unfortunatly my server cannot receive or send emails. logs: http://exchange.silvern.ath.cx/postconf http://exchange.silvern.ath.cx/maillog_receive http://exchange.silvern.ath.cx/maillog hope you can help me, thx[19:40:39] <asymetrixs> i'm trying to solve this now for about 3 days ;>[19:41:31] <stone> asymetrixs: master.cf?[19:41:39] <asymetrixs> ok mom[19:42:12] <asymetrixs> http://exchange.silvern.ath.cx/master[19:42:27] <asymetrixs> user vmail exists, added as displayed in the howto[19:47:11] *** githogori_ has joined #postfix[19:50:06] *** lunaphyte_ has quit IRC[19:50:31] *** Severed_Head_Of_ is now known as growltiger[19:51:35] <ExElNeT> how can i tell postfix to use username at myhostname dot mydomain.com as sender address?[19:52:00] *** duki has joined #postfix[19:52:31] *** Braden` has joined #postfix[19:52:33] <Braden`> Hello[19:52:41] <growltiger> hi![19:52:42] <growltiger> wb[19:52:50] <Braden`> Thank you =][19:54:02] <Braden`> I am getting an error whenever I try to send an e-mail to my server running postfix. The error is: "Recipient address rejected: undeliverable address: User unknown in virtual alias table;" I do have the e-mail address in /etc/postfix/virtual which I ran "postmap virtual" after adding it, so I am unsure why I am getting this error.[19:55:43] *** zez_zez has quit IRC[19:57:17] *** lunaphyte_ has joined #postfix[19:58:44] *** amrit|zzz is now known as amrit|wrk[20:00:16] <Braden`> Any help would be greatly appreciated[20:03:46] *** Sitting_Bull has joined #postfix[20:04:08] <Sitting_Bull> hi all still struggling with postfix and fetchmail[20:04:09] *** dragonheart has quit IRC[20:04:43] <Sitting_Bull> it doesn't deliver to my postfix /home/vmail/domain.com/userdir[20:04:53] *** dragonheart has joined #postfix[20:05:03] <Sitting_Bull> this is what i have in my fetchmailrc file now:[20:05:30] <hollo> hi, i have read the rft 1893.. but im still not sure if errorcode 4.7.1 would defer or reject the message?[20:06:08] <Sitting_Bull> poll mail.snpool.co.za localdomains snpool.co.za:[20:06:09] <Sitting_Bull> user dropbox at snpool dot co.za with pass password to * here[20:06:29] <Sitting_Bull> what happens is the mail is sent out from the server again[20:06:32] <hollo> X.7.1 Delivery not authorized, message refused i would say.. reject? but i know someone how is using this for greylisting.. which would be as reject all emails?[20:06:39] <Sitting_Bull> and received in the dropbox again[20:06:41] <Sitting_Bull> any ideas[20:07:14] <Sitting_Bull> is there something wrong with my postfix config?[20:08:17] *** trym has left #postfix[20:23:57] <Braden`> I am getting an error whenever I try to send an e-mail to my server running postfix. The error is: "Recipient address rejected: undeliverable address: User unknown in virtual alias table;" I do have the e-mail address in /etc/postfix/virtual which I ran "postmap virtual" after adding it, so I am unsure why I am getting this error.[20:30:10] *** etaylor has joined #postfix[20:41:24] *** contraventor has quit IRC[20:41:58] <ExElNeT> have you added the domain to virtual alias domains?[20:43:51] <rob0> ExElNeT: Yes, that is what the error means. Domain is in virtual_alias_domains, but user@domain is NOT found in virtual_alias_maps.[20:44:37] <ExElNeT> a simple question ... how can i set the postfix name? i have several postfix servers and they send all errors to me with the subject Postfix smtp server: errors from or postfix mailsystem: ... how can i edit those messages? e.g the name of the server in the subject would be fine to begin with[20:47:08] <rob0> !myhostname[20:47:09] <knoba> rob0: "myhostname" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The internet hostname of this mail system. The default is to use the fully-qualified domain name from gethostname(). $myhostname is used as a default value for many other configuration parameters.[20:47:16] *** gpled has left #postfix[20:48:19] <ExElNeT> rob0: yeah but the hostname isnt used in the subject of the error messages ...[20:50:18] <rob0> That gets a big ... "HUH?"[20:50:25] *** ams has left #postfix[20:50:32] <rob0> Are you saying you want to change OTHER hostnames?[20:52:10] <ExElNeT> Postfix SMTP server: errors from 220-133-201-145.HINET-IP.hinet.net[220.133.201.145][20:52:55] <ExElNeT> i would like Postfix SMTP on mydomain.com: errors from ...[20:54:25] <rob0> Ah. Then you probably have to hack the source code.[20:55:05] *** adam33 has joined #postfix[20:56:12] <ExElNeT> doh ...[21:00:53] <ExElNeT> rob0: ha! man 5 bounce :=)[21:01:28] <rob0> Does that work with notify_classes mail?[21:02:27] <ExElNeT> delivery status notification (DSN) messages for undeliverable mail, delayed mail, successful delivery or[21:02:31] <ExElNeT> address verification requests.[21:02:46] <ExElNeT> yeah those might not be the ones i want[21:03:31] <rob0> I think not.[21:03:38] <rob0> Hack away.[21:08:50] *** lkthomas_ has quit IRC[21:15:46] *** carl- has quit IRC[21:20:38] *** follia has joined #postfix[21:26:58] *** unixcoder has joined #postfix[21:35:28] <Braden`> Anyone know a solution to my problem?[21:42:25] *** havvg has quit IRC[21:42:37] <rob0> Almost an hour ago, xx:43, I posted it (or at least, an accurate description of the problem which should lead you to the solution.)[21:43:36] *** meandtheshell has quit IRC[21:48:13] *** cpm has quit IRC[22:00:09] *** goo has quit IRC[22:08:13] *** Roey has joined #postfix[22:08:14] <Roey> hi all[22:08:51] <Roey> question about Postgrey. It doesn't appear to be letting slip by emails from verizon, which we've added to our /etc/postgrey/whitelist_clients. (And we've also re-started postgrey for that matter)[22:08:55] <Roey> what gives??[22:10:52] <rob0> I would guess that a name like /etc/postgrey/whitelist_clients means a list of rDNS patterns in client hostnames. Perhaps you're using the wrong pattern.[22:11:36] <Braden`> rob0: My appologies, I thought you were talking to someone else.[22:11:45] <Braden`> I did get it sort of working based on your advice[22:11:46] <Braden`> brb[22:11:47] *** Braden` has quit IRC[22:12:20] <Roey> rob0: *.verizon.net is not enough/[22:12:21] <Roey> ?[22:12:55] <Roey> rob0: I mean, that's what Postfix says the mail return address is... er... lemme guess, it's coming from a pool[22:12:56] <Roey> rag[22:12:57] <Roey> *arg[22:13:08] <Roey> or that the same name binds to multiple IPs[22:14:44] <rob0> What connection is there between the sender address and the client hostname?[22:14:55] <Roey> er[22:15:00] <Roey> redefine client and sender ;)[22:15:03] <Roey> client is verizon[22:15:06] <Roey> sender is verizon[22:15:11] <Roey> recipient is our postfix box[22:17:26] <rob0> "client" is the host that connects to you. It has an IP address and (unless reverse DNS is broken) a name.[22:18:01] <rob0> "sender" is the address given in the SMTP "MAIL FROM:<foo>" command.[22:18:42] *** UQlev has quit IRC[22:20:26] <Roey> ok[22:20:48] <Roey> so when postfix says "from=", it's extracting this handle from the MAIL FROM: line, yes/[22:20:49] <Roey> ?[22:21:17] *** jellis has quit IRC[22:26:52] <adaptr> "extracting the handle", indeed[22:27:06] <adaptr> where do you get this from ? It's... so fresh, so new[22:27:36] <Roey> extracting the <foo>[22:27:45] *** Sitting_Bull has quit IRC[22:27:52] <adaptr> no[22:27:56] <Roey> adaptr: ah, I moonlight as a scriptwriter for hollywood action flicks[22:28:16] <Roey> adaptr: part of my job is to come up with faux-terminology that sounds techy but cool[22:28:35] <Roey> "DUDE, I just surfed past their firewalls directly into their user roles matrix"[22:28:43] <adaptr> the sender address the client gives in the SMTP conversation is... well, the sender address[22:28:46] <Roey> "now I'm gonna give us admin privs"[22:28:49] *** supa_user has quit IRC[22:28:58] <Roey> adaptr: well there are two things here, though[22:29:03] <adaptr> Roey I have always wondered about that - are they really as stupid as that, or just clueless[22:29:04] <Roey> (1) the FROM: address[22:29:17] <adaptr> Roey no, there are not[22:29:18] <Roey> (2) the actually source of the mail[22:29:25] <adaptr> there are one address[22:29:27] <Roey> adaptr: then correctme[22:29:35] <adaptr> I am :)[22:30:02] <Roey> adaptr: btw I don't work as a scriptwriter, and yes I do think that people are stupid, but not the scriptwriters--it's the audience that pays money to have this garbage spoon-fed to them[22:30:20] <Roey> !!! ENTER PASSWORD !!! (in three-inch-high blinking red on black letters)[22:30:20] <knoba> Roey: Error: "!!" is not a valid command.[22:30:21] <rob0> :)[22:30:23] <adaptr> Roey have you yet goggled at the perversity that was Die Hard 4.0 ?[22:30:33] <Roey> have not seen it yet :)[22:30:37] <adaptr> it was almost too hard to stomach[22:30:40] <adaptr> seriously[22:30:41] <Roey> I saw part of Hackerz[22:30:56] <adaptr> Hackers is cool - it has teh chikz0rz[22:31:02] <adaptr> Hackerz does not exist[22:31:05] <rob0> SMTP "MAIL FROM:<foo>", yes, "foo" is the "from=".[22:31:07] <Roey> where Vintage Angelina Jolie's waxing poetic about the New Pentium Chip[22:31:10] <adaptr> or is idiotic l33t sp33k[22:31:24] <Roey> adaptr: whichever way they called that movie with vintage Angelina Jolie[22:31:37] <adaptr> "vintage" ? are you, like, 20 ?[22:31:40] <adaptr> she's younger than I am[22:31:44] <Roey> 16 or so[22:31:45] <Roey> ?[22:31:57] <adaptr> hackers was made in 1994[22:32:02] <Roey> (her, in that movie)[22:32:02] <Roey> ah[22:32:04] <adaptr> that would make her 20[22:32:14] <adaptr> at least[22:32:21] <Roey> dude, don't get me going on how disappointed I was when I found out that Angelina Jolie's body was completely digitally rendered in Beowulf.[22:32:38] <adaptr> I'm not you rdude[22:32:40] <Roey> I thought she's about 30 now[22:32:43] <adaptr> trust me[22:32:45] <Roey> no, you're my dude, not my rdude[22:33:01] <Roey> (actually I support you there because I don't like the word 'dude')[22:33:08] <Roey> (myself)[22:33:17] <adaptr> that's wildly hypocritical[22:33:19] <rob0> I call my kids my "dudes".[22:33:41] <Roey> adaptr: So I needed a place holder word before that long-winded sentence.[22:33:47] *** miguel_ has joined #postfix[22:33:50] <Roey> adaptr: s/dude/man[22:34:09] <adaptr> actually, you don't - you need a good sentence, or topping that, actual language skills :)[22:34:16] *** miguel_ has quit IRC[22:34:17] <Roey> hee hee[22:34:19] *** diveli has joined #postfix[22:34:23] <Roey> it's fine, my writing is perfect.[22:34:35] <adaptr> no shame - you can't help where you was born any more than I can[22:34:49] <Roey> :)[22:34:52] <Roey> <-- smrt[22:34:57] <Roey> but anyway,[22:35:10] <Roey> So regarding this 'from=' line in /var/log/mail.log[22:35:24] <Roey> it's /not/ coming from the hostmask of the sender?[22:35:33] <Roey> it's coming from the FROM: instead?[22:36:36] <adaptr> "hostmask" ?[22:36:50] <adaptr> dude, the "from=" *is* the sender[22:37:09] <adaptr> the machine it is sent from has a hostname, if it's known it is given[22:37:26] <adaptr> but nobody can control what they send as the sender address - that's completely up to them[22:37:34] <adaptr> which is one reason why email is trivial to fake[22:37:41] *** ElzWhere has joined #postfix[22:38:11] *** pirho has joined #postfix[22:40:51] <Roey> adaptr: alright then[22:41:22] <adaptr> I don't know what you are looking for[22:41:42] *** unixcoder has quit IRC[22:41:43] <Roey> Dude, so what I put into /etc/whitelist_clients is the /hostname/ of the sender, or the /sender address/ ?[22:41:57] <adaptr> it says *clients*, does it not ?[22:42:00] *** adam33 has quit IRC[22:42:05] <Roey> rdude, and that's what I put in.[22:42:08] <Roey> ok I'll stop[22:42:21] <adaptr> the Dude thanks you[22:42:22] <Roey> adaptr: so it says clients--yet--hrm[22:42:27] * Roey nods and smiles :)[22:42:38] <Roey> adaptr: alright, how about this scenario:[22:42:50] <Roey> adaptr: (a) I don't have reverse address resolution on in postgrey[22:43:24] <Roey> adaptr: I get a mail from one remote server among a pool of servers which all take on the same hostname.[22:43:41] <Roey> adaptr: how will this confused postgrey?[22:44:08] <adaptr> it...won't ? why do you think something would get confused ?[22:44:57] <Roey> well, because if I'm putting an absolute IP address in /etc/whitelist_clients, then mail coming from verizon.net will come from different IPs every time, thereby rendering my Postgrey filter useless.[22:45:10] <Roey> *postgrey /whitelist/ filter[22:45:52] *** chatran has joined #postfix[22:46:52] <adaptr> so use a hostname[22:46:57] <adaptr> what's the big deal ?[22:47:10] <Roey> becuase mail STILL doesn't get whitelisted![22:49:35] *** asymetrixs has quit IRC[22:50:38] <adaptr> ah, an actual problem ![22:51:13] *** Zeit|awy_ has quit IRC[22:51:28] *** j_s has quit IRC[22:51:49] * Roey grins[23:06:07] <kreg> i have a situation where i am not going to use TLS, but directly SSL. this means I will need two IP addresses, and effectively two instances of postfix for smtp authentication[23:06:16] <kreg> anyone got advise on running two instances of postfix?[23:06:35] <adaptr> why ? just start an extra smtp transport[23:06:36] <kreg> first thing to comes to mind, is .....alternate_config_directories = /etc/postfix/main2.cf[23:06:58] <kreg> adaptr: i need a way to seperate two sets of ssl certs.[23:07:21] <kreg> customer 1 is going to use mail.hisdomain.com port 465 for sending mail[23:07:38] <kreg> cusomter 2 is going to use mail.herdomain.net port 465 for sending mail[23:07:47] <kreg> each is it's own cert.[23:07:49] <adaptr> okay, and ?[23:07:55] <Roey> adaptr: I'll be here tomorrow btw[23:08:00] <adaptr> Roey that's fine :)[23:08:05] <Roey> adaptr: ok, see ya tomorrow then![23:08:11] <kreg> well i guess i don't konw what else i can do if i don't run a 2nd instances of postfix. what does only running a 2nd transport mean?[23:08:31] <adaptr> it means setting up a second smtp listener on a second IP:port[23:08:43] <kreg> how is that different?[23:08:44] <adaptr> but I agree that what you're looking for is hard to do witha single instance[23:08:48] *** follia has quit IRC[23:08:53] <adaptr> how is it not ?[23:09:01] <adaptr> so run 2 virtual boxes :)[23:09:44] <kreg> trying to find advise on how. first question that comes to mind is "inet_interfaces =" for each. not sure how to make a second smtp fire up.[23:09:51] <kreg> and load different certs or the 2nd[23:09:56] <adaptr> !transport[23:09:57] <knoba> adaptr: Error: "transport" is not a valid command.[23:10:00] <adaptr> sheesh[23:10:19] <adaptr> anyhoo, the how and why of transports is explained in most of the basic docs[23:10:35] <kreg> i foudn this one[23:10:36] <kreg> http://advosys.ca/papers/postfix-instance.html[23:10:44] <kreg> recommand another obvious one i'm overlooking?[23:11:02] <adaptr> I dunno, never needed to run more than one[23:11:27] <adaptr> but why are you offering your clients separate SSL connection if you know this will cost you multiple instances ?[23:11:42] <adaptr> let them connect to your box with your cert, period[23:11:57] <adaptr> you should not do ingress filtering with domains anyway - use normal IP spaces[23:12:32] *** w0rd54 has quit IRC[23:12:49] <kreg> i'm trying to avoid providing each customer new instructions on how to configure their mail clients. each just uses the addressing format "mail.theirdomain.com" for incoming/outgoing[23:13:00] <kreg> and the mere challenge[23:13:01] *** w0rd54 has joined #postfix[23:13:02] <kreg> >: )[23:15:20] <adaptr> kreg you're going to have to put them through some fairly rigorous paces to get them to set up SSL - waste of time, really[23:15:30] <adaptr> every client in the universe supports TLS, so use it![23:16:02] <kreg> adaptr: they already are, just using a physical box each[23:16:12] <jMCg> Hm?[23:16:15] <adaptr> hm?[23:16:15] <kreg> so i'm moving them into a single box, if i do it right, they'll never know.[23:16:17] <adaptr> heh[23:16:30] <adaptr> like greats mind a think[23:17:29] <jMCg> adaptr: know a regex how I can match my name[,:] without matching [rv]igorous.. hmmm.. never mind...[23:19:37] <jMCg> adaptr: can you try that again?[23:19:44] <adaptr> whut ?[23:20:34] <jMCg> Say rigorous or vigorous or something like that.[23:20:45] <adaptr> rigorous ?[23:20:49] <jMCg> Thanks.[23:21:07] <adaptr> rous ?[23:22:23] <jMCg> adaptr: almost, Igor.[23:22:38] <jMCg> Also, IIRC, RoUS means Rodent of Unusual Size.[23:22:44] <adaptr> yes, it does[23:22:54] <adaptr> but he used to hang[23:23:12] <adaptr> or skitter, or whatever[23:30:17] *** ExElNeT has quit IRC[23:34:23] <kreg> adaptr: i'm not sure i understand why TLS would make this situation easier. They each have purchased real certs.[23:34:47] <kreg> smtpd will still need a way to know what cert to load. Is there a way to do that with only 1 ip and instance?[23:35:11] <kreg> if suing tls[23:39:45] <kreg> can two instances share the same spool?[23:39:45] *** contraventor has joined #postfix[23:39:48] <kreg> queue, etc[23:39:53] <contraventor> hi[23:40:30] *** prebur has joined #postfix[23:41:27] *** marc77 has joined #postfix[23:42:05] *** marc77 is now known as marc7[23:43:04] *** Zeit|awy has joined #postfix[23:46:11] <contraventor> how control atachamment per user ?[23:48:12] *** Lucky7 has quit IRC[23:53:32] *** ElzWhere has left #postfix[23:55:38] <js_> do i need to do anything to start proxymap?[23:55:47] <js_> my mysql server is getting ~150 connections right now[23:57:17] *** mathez has quit IRC