November 16, 2007 
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November 16, 2007 [00:00:13] *** Twinkletoes has joined #postfix[00:00:46] *** Twinkletoes has joined #postfix[00:00:54] *** Twinkletoes has quit IRC[00:01:28] *** Twinkletoes_ has joined #postfix[00:02:43] *** Motoko-chan has quit IRC[00:07:17] *** el_cuban1 is now known as el_cubano[00:18:20] *** idle-boy has quit IRC[00:18:51] *** idle-boy has joined #Postfix[00:21:52] *** aaronc_ has joined #postfix[00:32:30] *** aaronc has quit IRC[00:34:08] *** gpled has quit IRC[00:36:04] *** jellis has quit IRC[00:37:13] *** jelly-home has quit IRC[00:37:32] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[00:42:53] *** shwouchk has quit IRC[00:44:35] *** pickcoder has quit IRC[00:46:49] *** shwouchk has joined #postfix[00:56:44] *** jMCg_ is now known as jMCg[01:11:33] *** shwouchk has quit IRC[01:16:39] *** motion has joined #postfix[01:17:22] <motion> how can i tell postfix to try sending all queued mail[01:17:30] <motion> like without restarting it[01:20:00] <dragonheart> postqueue -f[01:20:59] <motion> thnx <3[01:24:45] *** marc77_ has joined #postfix[01:25:24] *** Predom[Work] has quit IRC[01:25:59] *** oates is now known as oates|zzzZ[01:29:48] *** war has quit IRC[01:41:08] *** marc77 has quit IRC[01:41:19] *** Predom[Work] has joined #postfix[01:47:45] *** ftp3 has joined #postfix[01:50:58] *** marc77_ has quit IRC[01:51:34] <ftp3> every time i (or any of my clients) try to check their email in my new secure postfix, it gives an error about the cert not being trusted.. is there a cert i can buy that outlook trusts so everyone does not see the error and so it will just work?[02:00:43] *** grandy has joined #postfix[02:02:01] *** Supaplex has quit IRC[02:02:10] *** wingot has joined #postfix[02:02:13] <wingot> Hey[02:02:30] <wingot> Does anyone here have much experience with postfix + mysql?[02:02:55] <wingot> My aliases aren't working, but the rest of the info in the mysql database is, and would appreciate someone doublechecking for me[02:03:39] *** jazzon666 has joined #postfix[02:03:46] <jazzon666> dddd[02:03:50] <jazzon666> hiola[02:04:26] <grandy> Hello ... does anyone know if it's possible to set up a catch-all to receive all mail received by postfix? I've found examples of how to do this on a domain by domain basis, but I just want a single catch-all (an alias, ideally)[02:05:53] *** jazzon666 has left #postfix[02:08:31] <wingot> Can't you add to /etc/aliases a line "* root" or something similar?[02:12:41] <grandy> wingot hmm... i tried *: /tmp/mails[02:12:46] <grandy> and it didn't appear to work[02:12:54] *** dec_ is now known as dec[02:13:45] <grandy> wingot: hmm maybe there is a setting that I need to change to allow postfix to receive mail for unknown recipients[02:15:40] <wingot> Anyway, figured out my issue, I'm off[02:15:42] *** wingot has left #postfix[02:15:45] *** solar_ant has quit IRC[02:17:06] *** pitakill has quit IRC[02:26:44] *** ftp3 has quit IRC[02:30:20] *** donspaulding has quit IRC[02:40:09] *** ikaro^ has joined #postfix[02:40:12] *** ikaro has quit IRC[02:40:19] *** ikaro^ is now known as ikaro[02:47:38] *** grandy has quit IRC[02:50:55] *** wilymage_ has joined #postfix[02:51:20] <wilymage_> hey I've configured postfix with sasl, /etc/sasl2/smtpd.conf describes mechanisms, but I don't get 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN[02:51:21] *** tuxnode has joined #postfix[02:51:43] <wilymage_> or any mechanism listed when I telnet to port 25. Why is this?[02:54:22] *** tuxnode has quit IRC[02:55:10] *** tuxnode has joined #postfix[02:58:12] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[02:59:02] *** NsOmNiAc has quit IRC[03:00:22] *** alamar has quit IRC[03:01:35] <slimjimflim> ok, i think i successfully installed postfix and i'd like to test it. i created a user, sent it a message from another email provider, and now i'd like to check to see if it came through[03:01:49] <slimjimflim> what command do i use for that?[03:03:30] <slimjimflim> oh wait, i got a failure notice emailed back to me[03:04:45] *** Tachy_ has joined #postfix[03:18:04] *** Tachy has quit IRC[03:21:01] <Inssomniak> I seem to be getting these errors in my logs: not sure why[03:21:08] <Inssomniak> conversation with birchslb.mountaincable.net[24.215.60.2] timed out while sending message body[03:21:24] <Inssomniak> and it happens with not only this email server[03:22:20] <hparker> sucky cable company?[03:22:41] <Inssomniak> well it happens with any server[03:23:19] <hparker> your connection overloaded?[03:24:04] <Inssomniak> doesnt appear so[03:24:44] <Inssomniak> connect to moutaincable.net[66.45.252.237]: Connection timed out (port 25)[03:24:51] <Inssomniak> this happened 15 times today alone[03:25:28] *** alamar has joined #postfix[03:25:58] <hparker> well, with the servers i've seen under attack lately, maybe they are[03:26:14] <Inssomniak> funny thing is[03:26:25] <hparker> telnet 66.45.252.237 25[03:26:31] <hparker> see how it responds[03:26:40] <Inssomniak> (that particular cable company is local), and I was pretty sure that ip address isnt even mouintaincable's IP[03:27:00] <Inssomniak> I tried that, and it didnt do crap[03:27:13] <hparker> there's your timeout[03:27:28] <hparker> Did you try it with the other IPs?[03:28:52] <Inssomniak> the one that times out while sending message body, it works[03:29:48] *** motion has left #postfix[03:29:49] <Inssomniak> certificate verification failed for birchslb.mountaincable.net: num=20:unable to get local issuer certificate[03:30:01] <Inssomniak> certificate verification failed for birchslb.mountaincable.net: num=21:unable to verify the first certificate[03:30:06] <Inssomniak> Server certificate could not be verified[03:30:44] <Inssomniak> are these errors I have control over?[03:34:47] *** raz has joined #postfix[03:38:22] *** prebur has quit IRC[03:44:50] *** githogori has joined #postfix[03:45:00] <Inssomniak> is there a way to see all emails waiting in queue?[03:45:25] <Inssomniak> or at least how many? why they are there?[03:45:57] <hparker> man postqueue.. I think -p will do it[03:46:14] <hparker> I use pfqueue to poke through the queues when I need to[03:50:41] <Inssomniak> thx![03:53:20] <raz> anyone know if atrn or anything similar has been done for postfix? i'm in the classic situation that i would like to have my mail directly delivered to my dynamic ip host (dsl). i have seen the uucp faq, but umm, seriously, uucp?![03:57:18] *** pirho has quit IRC[04:05:06] *** raz is now known as raz_[04:06:01] *** jjjja has joined #postfix[04:06:25] *** jjjja is now known as nictuku[04:06:42] *** raz_ is now known as razZ[04:06:49] *** razZ is now known as razZz[04:07:13] *** razZz is now known as raz[04:13:46] *** context has joined #postfix[04:14:11] <context> would someone know why i have all the sasl options i need in main.cf but i dont get an AUTH option when connecting to smtp[04:17:24] <context> and wth is the difference between smtp_sasl_path and smtpd_sasl_path[04:18:03] <context> oh oops[04:24:37] *** solar_ant has joined #postfix[04:34:11] <context> fixed[04:48:48] *** magyar has quit IRC[04:48:49] *** magyatr has joined #postfix[04:48:57] *** magyatr has quit IRC[04:49:10] *** magyar has joined #postfix[04:49:13] *** roe has quit IRC[04:53:46] *** prebur has joined #postfix[04:59:40] *** Internat3 has joined #postfix[05:03:11] <context> mmm where does postfix chroot to :x[05:08:52] *** roe has joined #postfix[05:10:40] *** internat85 has quit IRC[05:12:25] *** amrit|wrk is now known as amrit|afk[05:18:03] *** andi__ has joined #postfix[05:20:34] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[05:21:07] *** solar_ant has quit IRC[05:21:12] *** solar_ant has joined #postfix[05:27:38] *** Dominian has quit IRC[05:27:41] *** Dominian has joined #postfix[05:33:46] *** ftp3 has joined #postfix[05:33:47] <ftp3> so, i am having a problem.. i cannot seem to send email thru postfix using outlook express using ssl[05:35:16] *** kk_CHN has joined #postfix[05:35:49] *** phnord has quit IRC[05:38:43] *** pitakill has quit IRC[05:42:26] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[05:43:03] <ftp3> anyone? ;-)[05:43:36] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[05:43:37] *** hparker has quit IRC[05:44:06] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[05:44:07] <f3ew> ftp3 did you read TLS_README?[05:44:18] <f3ew> context queue_directory[05:45:04] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[05:47:55] *** psyllo has quit IRC[05:48:01] <kk_CHN> f3ew, I have a postfix mailserver with mailman , spam assassin & clamav . Its working fine for a long time suddenly the mails I am sending to the mmailing lists is not delivering ?[05:48:33] <kk_CHN> emails are accepted by the server but not being delivered.[05:48:53] <f3ew> kk_CHN what changed?[05:50:43] <kk_CHN> nothing changed ,[05:51:55] <f3ew> something must have[05:52:00] <f3ew> What do the logs say?[05:55:21] <kk_CHN> checking that[05:57:32] <ftp3> f3ew, reading the giant TLS_README now.. anything i should be looking for?[06:00:16] <f3ew> ftp3, it tells you how to setup Postfix to offer SSL[06:02:50] <jpalmer> f3ew: does linux have 'mtree' ?[06:03:30] <ftp3> f3ew my postfix ssl works great with thunderbird[06:03:39] <ftp3> f3ew, but outlook express does not work[06:03:49] <kk_CHN> http://pastebin.ca/776651[06:04:31] <f3ew> jpalmer what does mtree do?[06:04:44] <f3ew> ftp3, that's an outlook express issue then :)[06:05:03] <ftp3> lol, thus my question about outlook express[06:05:06] <kk_CHN> f3ew, ^^[06:05:20] <jpalmer> f3ew: maps a directory hierarchy, so you can actually see what changed in a folder/directory/filesystem[06:05:21] <f3ew> #[06:05:21] <f3ew> Nov 16 10:27:11 star postfix/local[60109]: 3F1132EB883: to=<youth-sia at ssn dot net>, relay=local, delay=0, status=sent (delivered to command: /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post youth-sia)[06:05:32] <f3ew> Postfix sent it to mailman[06:05:47] <f3ew> Start your mailman service/queue-runner @ kk_CHN[06:06:44] <f3ew> Ah, not by default that I know of[06:11:01] <jpalmer> f3ew: ahh. that sucks. it's quite a handy tool when people use it. "What changed" "Nothing" (quick mtree command) "I mean, I've modifed this list of 8 files."[06:12:23] *** Motoko-chan has joined #postfix[06:12:41] <kk_CHN> f3ew, : I have done /usr/local/etc/mailman restart this what you told me right ? What the queue-runner will do[06:13:24] *** ek__ has joined #Postfix[06:15:52] <f3ew> kk_CHN, it flushes mailman's queue[06:16:55] <f3ew> jpalmer, that's what tripwire is for[06:17:17] <jpalmer> tripwire isn't in base either, though ;)[06:17:34] <f3ew> though in this case, kk_CHN's mailman service probably wasn't running[06:17:49] <f3ew> True[06:18:13] <kk_CHN> yup you were right it was not running[06:18:36] <kk_CHN> so I used mailman restart[06:18:45] <kk_CHN> then the next thing is[06:18:55] <jpalmer> and to be honest, the kind of people you're asking "what changed" aren't going to be running tripwire. where mtree could be installed in base, and have periodic system scripts to update it occasionally. all in base[06:18:56] <kk_CHN> looking qrunner[06:19:36] <f3ew> kk_CHN, same thing[06:19:57] <f3ew> /usr/local/etc/mailman restart will deal with the queue-runner command for you[06:20:05] <f3ew> jpalmer, true[06:25:00] *** tuxnode has quit IRC[06:26:25] *** tuxnode has joined #postfix[06:27:24] *** ek has quit IRC[06:27:37] *** ek__ is now known as ek[06:27:57] <kk_CHN> f3ew, : thanks a lot[06:28:39] *** ek_ is now known as eekay[06:34:00] *** slimjimflim has quit IRC[06:37:24] *** alamar has quit IRC[06:46:18] *** nictuku has quit IRC[07:00:15] *** arcleaf has joined #postfix[07:11:31] *** Joelwork has joined #postfix[07:12:06] <Joelwork> is it possible to postqueue just a few amount of mails.. say 10[07:12:13] <Joelwork> or postqueue in sets[07:12:18] <Joelwork> like 10 mb[07:12:30] <Joelwork> once that gets delivered then postqueue the next set[07:16:05] *** cj_sze27 has joined #postfix[07:20:08] <context> i have the .crt and .key for a domain, which do i turn to a .pem for postfix :x[07:21:15] <context> joelwork: what would that do as appose to postqueue'ing everything[07:22:04] <context> joelwork: im sure you can script postqueue -p to only queue so many[07:26:30] *** lowks has joined #postfix[07:26:45] <lowks> can a virtual user have aliases ?[07:27:02] <lowks> if yes ... is there any guide to do it ?[07:27:28] *** alamar has joined #postfix[07:28:34] <f3ew> !virtual_alias_maps[07:28:35] <knoba> f3ew: "virtual_alias_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup tables that alias specific mail addresses or domains to other local or remote address. The table format and lookups are documented in virtual(5).[07:30:53] <lowks> but my system is using virtual users and they are already there in the virtual_alias_maps[07:35:54] *** diveli has quit IRC[07:40:55] *** qiyong has joined #postfix[07:40:56] <qiyong> my dovecot quota is out of sync, how to repair?[07:47:45] *** atilaX has quit IRC[07:49:15] *** atilaX has joined #postfix[07:49:30] *** ftp3 has quit IRC[07:57:00] <Joelwork> context well if I have over 2 GB of mails queued it would surely help[07:57:23] <Joelwork> if I dont want the server to get overloaded[07:58:26] *** fifo_ has left #postfix[08:00:07] *** qwerty has joined #postfix[08:07:41] *** Zeit|awy_ has joined #postfix[08:11:43] *** cj_sze27 has quit IRC[08:13:13] *** Zeit|awy has quit IRC[08:15:51] <context> it happens .[08:16:23] <context> joelwork: and yeah just script postqueue -p and do like 1000 at a time[08:17:03] *** eject_ck has joined #postfix[08:19:07] *** idle-boy` has joined #Postfix[08:19:29] *** idle-boy has quit IRC[08:29:49] <context> all i want is a damn pem file :([08:30:10] <eject_ck> context: what you mean?[08:30:59] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[08:31:21] *** Motoko-chan has quit IRC[08:32:46] <eject_ck> ???[08:33:05] <context> eject_ck: im using easy-rsa[08:33:13] <context> and it gives me .crt and .key files[08:33:15] <context> but NO .pem[08:33:16] <context> :([08:33:25] <eject_ck> :)[08:33:33] <context> i switched the .crt's to .pem but cant find a way to convert the key to a .pem[08:33:36] <eject_ck> you want use SASL ?[08:33:45] <context> whats sasl have to do with tls[08:33:51] <eject_ck> TLS ?[08:34:00] <context> ...[08:34:11] <context> and i have to use sasl... and i HATE sasl![08:34:21] <eject_ck> why it's great[08:34:27] <context> no its a PoS[08:34:28] <context> it was working[08:34:32] <context> then it stopped[08:34:44] <context> now i get xsasl_cyrus_blahblahblah_BullSh*t[08:34:48] <eject_ck> context: openssl req -new -x509 -nodes -out smtpd.pem -keyout smtpd.pem -days 365[08:35:02] <eject_ck> context: I was in same situation[08:35:17] <context> i dont want a new one, i already have it :/ meh whatever[08:35:18] <eject_ck> some days ago when I configured my postfix+mysql+sasl2[08:35:26] <eject_ck> now it works great[08:35:36] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[08:35:42] <context> heh[08:36:28] <context> and good old CA.pl is just as worthless[08:36:51] <eject_ck> you don`t need it[08:39:02] <context> so how do i sign the new smtpd.pem :/[08:39:27] <eject_ck> you want sign in Verisign ?[08:40:18] *** Lap_64 has joined #postfix[08:41:19] <context> no self sign[08:41:28] <context> why does openssl have to be so damn confusing :/[08:42:12] <eject_ck> context: command which I posted is enough[08:58:57] *** rokra has joined #postfix[08:59:24] <context> i think that sasl_local_domain = fixed a few of my problems[08:59:29] <context> it was set to $myhostname i think[08:59:54] <context> ahh that woulda borked it[09:02:00] <context> hmm thnx eject_ck[09:03:14] <eject_ck> ok[09:03:33] <eject_ck> does it works for you[09:03:44] <eject_ck> and what about sasl pwcheck ?[09:03:58] <eject_ck> what you use ?[09:05:00] <context> im using authdaemond to use encrypted passwords in pgsql[09:07:06] <eject_ck> great[09:10:14] *** amrit|afk is now known as amrit|zzz[09:19:37] *** ^Willie^Laptop has joined #postfix[09:24:50] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[09:42:34] *** solar_ant has quit IRC[09:46:11] *** cutmasta has joined #postfix[09:46:26] *** qwerty has quit IRC[09:46:34] *** qwerty has joined #postfix[09:47:57] *** githogori has quit IRC[10:00:40] *** rokra has quit IRC[10:01:24] *** war has joined #postfix[10:06:26] *** harobed has joined #postfix[10:15:40] *** asmas has joined #postfix[10:21:03] *** oates|zzzZ is now known as oates[10:22:29] *** ishi_ has quit IRC[10:26:28] *** meandtheshell has joined #postfix[10:26:43] *** tuxinside_ has joined #postfix[10:27:27] *** mark-use has joined #postfix[10:31:07] *** brancaleone has joined #postfix[10:34:40] *** Lap_64 has quit IRC[10:37:52] *** Edward123 has joined #postfix[10:43:17] *** Twinkletoes_ has quit IRC[10:43:39] *** Twinkletoes has joined #postfix[10:43:56] *** monohate has quit IRC[10:49:58] *** eject_ck has quit IRC[10:50:34] *** meandtheshell has quit IRC[10:54:41] *** pitakill has quit IRC[11:05:17] *** Internat3 is now known as Internat[11:05:31] *** boun has joined #postfix[11:09:08] *** boun has quit IRC[11:09:15] *** boun has joined #postfix[11:10:16] *** tuxinside__ has joined #postfix[11:16:11] *** pariviere has joined #postfix[11:20:39] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[11:24:57] *** arcleaf has quit IRC[11:26:54] *** lowks has quit IRC[11:27:00] *** jduggan has quit IRC[11:27:48] *** tuxinside_ has quit IRC[11:28:36] <mark-use> hi[11:33:50] <mark-use> where can I change this? .....NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from xxxxxx[xx.xx.xx.xx]: 450 4.1.8 <postmaster at change-this-to-your dot domain.tld>: Sender address rejected: Domain not found; from=<postmaster at change-this-to-your dot domain.tld> to=<xxxxxxx at xxxxxx dot xxx> proto=ESMTP helo=<localhost>[11:33:51] <dragonheart> ho[11:34:20] <mark-use> change-this-to-your..... can't find that anywhere in mysql of cfg-files[11:34:24] <sep> mark-use, then sending server should NOT use localhost as it's helo[11:34:45] <sep> also change-this-to-your.domain.tld should be a hint[11:34:52] <dragonheart> fgrep -r change-this-to-your.domain.tld /etc[11:35:20] <dragonheart> and what is sending it may give some hint[11:36:51] <mark-use> dragonheart, nope, nothing found with fgrep -r change-this-to-your.domain.tld {/etc,/usr/local/etc}[11:37:02] <mark-use> <- on FreeBSD 8-)[11:38:39] <mark-use> [root@natrium ~]# fgrep -r change-this /var/db/mysql/postfix[11:38:40] <mark-use> Binary file /var/db/mysql/postfix/log.MYD matches[11:38:50] <mark-use> where the hell could "change-this..." come from[11:39:27] <dragonheart> could use postmap to make a few queries or just dump your database[11:40:26] *** asdfgh has joined #postfix[11:42:30] *** Zeit|awy_ has quit IRC[11:53:50] *** asdfgh has quit IRC[11:54:28] *** aozturk has quit IRC[11:55:58] *** qwerty has quit IRC[11:57:43] *** Zeit|awy has joined #postfix[11:59:18] *** meandtheshell has joined #postfix[12:05:21] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[12:06:02] *** GuHHH has joined #postfix[12:06:06] <GuHHH> hey, about mail listing services... whats the most simple to configure, mailman or majordomo?[12:09:48] <dragonheart> i've done mailman recently and it was pretty easy. don't know about majordomo[12:12:11] *** atilaX has quit IRC[12:12:57] <GuHHH> dragonheart: do you have the tutorial/[12:14:15] <dragonheart> i just followed the packaged instructions and configured the options i wanted[12:14:55] <dragonheart> just don't forget the mailman_recipients_limit (check!) = 1 in main.cf[12:15:32] <GuHHH> dragonheart: okay, thanks :D[12:22:17] *** netcrash has quit IRC[12:25:38] *** jduggan has joined #postfix[12:31:07] *** qiyong has quit IRC[12:33:02] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[12:36:10] *** cpm has joined #postfix[12:36:11] *** skyion has joined #postfix[12:36:31] <skyion> HI, is there a way to seperate local and remote outbound mail?[12:37:21] <skyion> I want to put all remote outbound mail on hold and process internal mail first then resume.[12:40:28] *** Edward123 has quit IRC[12:40:51] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[12:46:19] <cpm> skyion, as far as postfix (the mta) is concerned, there is only mail, inbound/outbound means nothing to the mta.[12:46:39] <cpm> If you want to separate them, you want to run two different instances. This isn't uncommon.[12:47:26] <Joelwork> what is the courier v4.1 UIDL format?[12:51:50] *** arcleaf has joined #postfix[12:52:26] <dragonheart> Joelwork: what's your objective?[12:59:08] *** etaylor has quit IRC[13:05:26] <Joelwork> dragonheart: well im migrating from courier v4.1 to dovecot[13:06:04] <Joelwork> and because im unable to get the UIDL format currently in use by courier, all mails get redownloaded with dovecot[13:06:42] <Joelwork> the dovecot wiki specifies the UIDL to be used for courier versions earlier that 4[13:07:01] <Joelwork> is there anyway I could find the courier UIDL format in use[13:23:23] *** UQlev has quit IRC[13:26:00] *** Zeit|awy has quit IRC[13:33:24] *** flith1 has joined #postfix[13:34:40] <flith1> hey everyone... anyone know how I can get postfix to listen to port 25 from addresses other than localhost?[13:36:13] *** Ol_Blue has quit IRC[13:36:27] *** Edward123 has joined #postfix[13:36:56] <Edward123> hrm sorry to be dumb, but how are you supposed to list the number of messages in the queue using postfix? i tried postqueue but that doens't seem to have such a feature[13:38:47] *** flith1 has left #postfix[13:38:52] <sep> mailq[13:40:20] <Edward123> ah, like sendmail[13:40:44] <Edward123> heh there's no manpage for it[13:41:48] <rob0> there should be, it's sendmail(1)[13:41:58] <Edward123> i don't have sendmail on this machine, i removed it before installing postfix[13:42:03] <Edward123> was that unwise?[13:42:08] <Edward123> not a big problem, i'll just check out the manpage online[13:42:15] * rob0 sighs[13:42:21] <cpm> isn't mailq just a sendmail call with arguments?[13:42:24] <rob0> yes[13:42:35] <cpm> thought so[13:42:49] <cpm> Edward123, postfix installs a sendmail binary[13:43:01] <rob0> If you have Postfix, you have sendmail(1) and a man page therefor.[13:43:05] <cpm> that's pretty much a drop in for sendmail[13:43:12] <cpm> so, man sendmail[13:43:18] <rob0> Said man page is what you get with "man mailq".[13:43:31] <cpm> sendmail -bp[13:43:33] <rob0> If not, your distributor broke something.[13:44:28] <Edward123> ah yeah, sendmail -bp works[13:44:29] <Edward123> thanks[13:44:36] <cpm> bow to rob0 ![13:44:41] * Edward123 bows[13:44:48] <rob0> bow-wow[13:44:57] <cpm> see? Edward123's a good 'un, 'ee iz[13:45:00] <rob0> It's a dog day.[13:45:22] *** ^Willie^Laptop has quit IRC[13:48:19] *** mark-use has quit IRC[13:48:41] <cpm> isn't[13:52:29] *** kk_CHN has quit IRC[13:53:03] *** GuHHH has quit IRC[13:53:32] *** arcleaf has quit IRC[13:58:15] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[14:01:47] *** asmas has quit IRC[14:02:21] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[14:13:33] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[14:48:50] *** klorinsky has joined #postfix[14:49:54] <klorinsky> hi! I got this message "warning: connect to transport smtp-amavis: No such file or directory" in postfixlog. I have turned off amavis but it still trying to transport it. How can I stop it?[14:53:58] *** rob0_ has quit IRC[14:55:27] *** lunaphyte_ has quit IRC[15:01:00] *** UQlev has quit IRC[15:05:33] *** ming_zym has left #postfix[15:16:35] *** jra has joined #postfix[15:19:03] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[15:20:40] *** Zeit|awy has joined #postfix[15:26:37] *** pitakill has quit IRC[15:26:53] *** skyion has quit IRC[15:28:46] *** jellis has joined #postfix[15:29:12] *** skyion has joined #postfix[15:32:27] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[15:37:21] <tm-30740-exa> I have written a patch which allows the policy server to get all the recipients of a mail : http://thomas.mangin.com/#tag:link_postfix_all_recipients[15:37:36] <tm-30740-exa> Feel free to report me any failure/success.[15:40:45] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[15:45:51] *** flithm has joined #postfix[15:47:07] *** alamar has quit IRC[15:47:39] <flithm> hey everyone... I've just set up a postfix smtp server. It's working great and everything, but I've got one weird issue remaining: I can authenticate to it from anywhere and send email from it fine using telnet. However as soon as I configure thunderbird to use it, although the mails look like they get delivered fine (even in the server logs), they never get delivered -- even to the same addresses that work fine when sending mail from telnet[15:47:44] <flithm> anyone have any ideas what could be going on here?[15:49:08] <tm-30740-exa> your thunderbird server is using an smtp server performing mx resolution which does not go to your new box[15:49:11] <rob0> I'll bet your logs do.[15:49:50] <tm-30740-exa> (remove the first occurrence of the word server in my sentence)[15:50:17] <flithm> tm-30740-exa: not sure what you mean exactly, why does the mx record for the server factor into when when using it to send mail?[15:50:51] <flithm> rob0: the logs give an OK status message, and they look exactly the same as the logs produced by the raw telnet commands?[15:51:41] <tm-30740-exa> your thunderbird has a smtp server configuration.[15:51:47] <tm-30740-exa> The server at the end gets the mail[15:51:55] <tm-30740-exa> store it in its queue[15:52:02] <tm-30740-exa> then try to deliver to your email[15:52:08] <tm-30740-exa> it perform DNS lookup for the MX[15:52:14] <tm-30740-exa> connect "there"[15:52:24] <tm-30740-exa> wher there is not where you are testing[15:53:02] <tm-30740-exa> nslookup -type=mx <domain.name> , and check if the name/ip is where you think it is[15:53:11] <flithm> tm-30740-exa: ohh... I see... that makes sense. So, how come it works when I issue raw smtp commands via telnet?[15:53:33] *** teddy_ has quit IRC[15:55:29] <tm-30740-exa> you are connecting to the server you are building (the new server) when the mail from thunderbird goes to the old one ?[15:55:39] <tm-30740-exa> Sorry I need to get some real work done.. good luck.[15:56:33] <flithm> thanks :)[15:57:14] <rob0> if you pastebin some of those logs within a few minutes, I might look.[15:57:23] <rob0> (getting ready to go.)[15:59:38] <flithm> there's not that much to see... just a connect message, a from message, then a disconnect msg, followed by: to=<address@gma[15:59:39] <flithm> il.com>, relay=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[66.249.83.114]:25, delay=1.6, delays=0[15:59:39] <flithm> .77/0.01/0.15/0.71, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 OK 1195220822 i13si4362669[15:59:39] <flithm> wxd)[15:59:42] <flithm> ahh crap[15:59:42] <flithm> sorry[15:59:47] *** Zeit|awy has quit IRC[16:00:11] <flithm> anyway as you can see all I get is a sent OK status message[16:02:34] *** jra has quit IRC[16:07:53] <flithm> alright I've been able to confirm that it's only sending to gmail that's the issue... I can send to other domains fine[16:08:40] *** Oddmonger has joined #postfix[16:09:25] <Oddmonger> hello[16:10:20] <Oddmonger> i use transport map for sending to another smtp servers all mails belonging to domain "xxx.com"[16:11:07] <Oddmonger> i works, but i like to deliver "test at xxx dot com" to "me at mydomain dot com" (local delivery)[16:11:09] *** etaylor has joined #postfix[16:11:19] <Oddmonger> i use canonical map, with this rule:[16:11:36] <Oddmonger> test at xxx dot com me at mydomain dot com[16:12:01] <Oddmonger> but "test at xxx dot com" is still sent to the mail server of xxx.com[16:13:28] <Oddmonger> are "canonical" entries superseded by "transport" rules ?[16:18:31] *** idle-boy` has quit IRC[16:18:38] *** lunaphyte_ has joined #postfix[16:19:02] *** idle-boy` has joined #Postfix[16:20:16] *** flithm has left #postfix[16:25:21] *** alamar has joined #postfix[16:26:42] *** pitakill has quit IRC[16:49:27] <UQlev> can anyone kindly remind RFC number for rDNS coply for mail-servers?[16:52:51] *** Joelwork has left #postfix[16:57:06] *** aozturk has joined #postfix[17:00:49] *** cutmasta has quit IRC[17:05:03] <UQlev> !rdns[17:05:04] <knoba> UQlev: Error: "rdns" is not a valid command.[17:05:18] <UQlev> !reverse lookup[17:05:19] <knoba> UQlev: Error: "reverse" is not a valid command.[17:13:18] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[17:16:02] *** tuxinside__ has quit IRC[17:19:16] *** solar_ant has joined #postfix[17:27:46] *** Zeit|awy has joined #postfix[17:29:15] <pingouin> Oddmonger: are you still there ?[17:30:30] <pingouin> obviously....[17:35:09] *** harobed has quit IRC[17:40:40] <Oddmonger> yes i'm here[17:44:02] *** githogori has joined #postfix[17:44:52] *** capt-rogers has quit IRC[17:48:01] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[17:50:07] *** flami has joined #postfix[17:54:06] *** pickcoder has joined #postfix[17:54:31] <pickcoder> any recommendations for commecial web mail software?[17:54:50] *** pitakill has quit IRC[17:55:53] <flami> I just know a free one .... roundcube ^^[17:56:04] <UQlev> pickcoder: popular ones are included in crm/groupware applications[17:56:31] <pickcoder> I have roundcube, but parts of it are borked[17:56:52] <pickcoder> Squirrelmail is too geeky for the boss[17:57:04] <pickcoder> I've been through them all and he won't use any of the GPL ones[17:57:14] <pickcoder> getting frustrated at this point[17:57:26] <pickcoder> especially when his mailbox ends up 2GB[17:57:37] <UQlev> pickcoder: try e-groupware, sugarCRM[17:57:48] <pickcoder> what about atmail?[17:57:59] <UQlev> no ideas[17:58:25] <pickcoder> does sugarcrm use MySQL as a mail backend[17:58:37] <pickcoder> I don't want to run into the file size problem again[17:58:37] <UQlev> pickcoder: 2GB mail box is abnormal, archive part of it[17:58:44] <pickcoder> UQlev: tell him that[17:58:51] <pickcoder> I've been fighting it for years[17:58:57] <pickcoder> I'm done fighting[17:59:08] <UQlev> pickcoder: I do not tell them, I just do so, noone complained[17:59:16] <pickcoder> well he's the company owner[17:59:30] <pickcoder> and I like my job[17:59:35] <Oddmonger> pickcoder: same problem here :) some mailboxes reaches 4gb[17:59:40] <flami> well the question is ... will he find out ? ;)[17:59:49] <pickcoder> I just let it grow until Outlook barfs on the file size in Doze[18:00:03] <pickcoder> then he HAS to do something[18:00:15] <UQlev> I archive them from time to time, if they need any particular period I can place it back[18:00:33] <pickcoder> I'm not his secretary, so I'm not going to offer archival services[18:00:34] <pickcoder> <g>[18:00:43] <pickcoder> when the time comes, it gets deleted[18:00:52] <UQlev> pickcoder: yousaid you like your job ;)[18:01:03] <pickcoder> well when he can't get _any_ mail, he changes his tune[18:01:09] <UQlev> it is not very costly[18:01:12] <pickcoder> and we dump 2-3 years worth of crap[18:01:16] <pickcoder> that he never looks at![18:01:17] <pickcoder> grrr[18:01:21] <pickcoder> phone.. brb[18:02:14] *** pslacker has joined #postfix[18:02:17] <pickcoder> yes.. more problems![18:02:22] <pickcoder> it's friday![18:02:46] * pickcoder sends attack monkeys after problem users[18:04:27] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[18:05:21] <pickcoder> sugarcrm looks a bit bloated for what we need[18:05:43] <flami> pfft bloat impresses[18:05:57] <flami> (e.g. Vista got 3d WOoOoOOOoOoO )[18:07:55] <pickcoder> I just need a webmail client[18:08:30] <pickcoder> meh.. more problems.. bbl[18:09:44] *** UQlev has quit IRC[18:11:05] *** pariviere has left #postfix[18:11:37] *** lee has quit IRC[18:12:40] *** flami has quit IRC[18:13:36] *** Twinkletoes has quit IRC[18:17:30] *** aaronc_ is now known as aaronc[18:20:44] *** aatmaa has joined #postfix[18:23:03] *** duki has joined #postfix[18:28:30] *** boun has quit IRC[18:31:41] *** mordaunt has joined #postfix[18:32:21] <mordaunt> what kind of separators can i use to separate aliases? just comma? or semicolon too?[18:39:18] *** flami has joined #postfix[18:39:57] *** hparker has joined #postfix[18:40:28] <pslacker> I would stick with commas. Never tried using semi-colons[18:41:38] <mordaunt> i'm looking at an alias db with ; , and newlines for separators.. i have no idea which ones aren't working =D[18:42:41] <pslacker> I'd change 'em all to commas[18:43:21] <pslacker> The commas work.[18:43:23] <mordaunt> that's what i'm going to do too.. it's thousands of entries though =)[18:43:35] <mordaunt> thanks pslacker[18:43:37] <pslacker> Newlines are fine, as long as the continuation on the next line starts with white space.[18:43:51] <mordaunt> it starts with a comma[18:44:04] <pslacker> semicolons I'm not sure about[18:44:26] *** Oddmonger has left #postfix[18:44:27] <pslacker> The continuation of a previous line starts with 'comma' as the very first character on that line, not even a space/tab?[18:44:47] <mordaunt> it's random[18:45:14] <mordaunt> different versions of the insertion code inserted diff stuff[18:45:17] <pslacker> To insert a space before the comma, on all lines in which the first character is a comma, use this command:[18:45:32] <pslacker> sed -i 's/^,/ ,/' <filename>[18:45:37] <pslacker> 1. make a backup first.[18:45:51] <pslacker> 2. Notice the space in the second expression, just before the comma.[18:46:09] <pslacker> To replace all semicolons in the file with commas:[18:46:19] <pslacker> sed -i 's/\;/,/g' <filename>[18:46:29] <pslacker> 1. Have to escape semicolon with a backslash[18:46:44] <pslacker> Be sure to run newaliases after you're done.[18:47:23] *** lee has joined #postfix[18:47:28] <mordaunt> it's mysql[18:47:55] <pslacker> I'm sure it's easy to do with Perl. Unfortunately, I'm not a great perl programmer (yet).[18:48:32] <pslacker> try googling 'postfix mysql perl text substitution'.[18:48:35] <pslacker> You get the idea.[18:48:45] <pslacker> Well I gtg, time for work[18:52:03] *** atilaX has joined #postfix[18:55:57] *** hemry has joined #postfix[18:59:11] *** flami has quit IRC[19:01:25] *** havvg has joined #postfix[19:04:44] *** flami has joined #postfix[19:05:25] *** j_s has joined #postfix[19:32:03] *** cpm has quit IRC[19:32:16] *** jra has joined #postfix[19:34:38] *** cpm has joined #postfix[19:35:42] *** brancaleone has quit IRC[19:42:57] <solar_ant> hi all[19:43:04] <solar_ant> is there a way to sync a imap to an maildir[19:43:17] <Dominian> do what[19:45:12] *** supa_user has joined #postfix[19:47:08] <supa_user> hi guys. is there anyway to get a message which is bcc'd to a flat-file virtual alias user to show the bcc'd to address in something other than the received lines?[19:47:51] *** amrit|zzz is now known as amrit|wrk[19:48:01] <supa_user> X-Original-To: and Delivered-To: both seem to show the expanded alias address[19:54:46] <pickcoder> mordaunt: man aliases[19:55:07] <zamba> i have used a secondary mx for a while now.. the primary mx is now back up again.. and i want to queue all these emails back to the primary mx[19:55:14] <pickcoder> mordaunt: never mind.. I just noticed your mysql comment[19:55:17] <zamba> so i issue postqueue -f on the secondary mx[19:55:26] <zamba> problem is that i have greylisting running on the primary mx[19:55:28] <pickcoder> so it's not an aliases db it's virtual aliases[19:55:42] <zamba> what will happen if i just add the host of the secondary mx in the whitelist?[19:56:30] <jra> it will bypass greylisting and make you happy[19:56:39] <zamba> ok, so i should do that, then?[19:57:13] <jra> I'd say risk it[19:57:35] <zamba> i'm crazy![19:57:36] *** duki has quit IRC[19:58:28] <pickcoder> supa_user: that has to do with header rewriting, but I can't help. If no one responds consider postfix.org or google for postfix header rewriting[19:59:10] <pickcoder> I think there may alias expansion control in the config, but again I'd have no clue with looking it up in the manual[19:59:18] <pickcoder> s/with/without[19:59:35] <zamba> jra: what if i now want my secondary mx just to reply 451 (or something?) for the same domains i used to relay? is there an easy way of doing that?[20:02:07] *** meandtheshell has quit IRC[20:03:05] <jra> eh? a secondary mx on standby or what?[20:05:11] *** slimjimflim has joined #postfix[20:06:30] *** flami has quit IRC[20:09:31] <pickcoder> zamba: do those old domains have 2nd mx as a primary mx?[20:09:44] *** wdp has joined #postfix[20:10:42] <zamba> pickcoder: what do you mean?[20:12:10] *** wdp has quit IRC[20:12:18] <pickcoder> why would you need to make a secondary MX bounce mail?[20:12:29] <pickcoder> if the domains are configured correctly then mail should go straight to MX1[20:12:52] <zamba> pickcoder: yeah, but for spam.. spam bots often go for the secondary mx[20:13:02] <pickcoder> so remove the MX2 entry in your DNS[20:13:17] <zamba> and i'm not sure if i'm out of the woods just yet concerning the issues we've been experiencing with the primary mx[20:13:28] <zamba> that's why i want to leave it still[20:14:18] *** wdp has joined #postfix[20:14:25] *** duki has joined #postfix[20:14:41] <jra> it's quite easy: if you don't have full control over your secondary mx (to set up the same level of antispam measures as on the primary), it's better not to use a secondary[20:15:45] *** Ryushin has joined #postfix[20:15:50] <cpm> it's in general, better to not use a secondary, period. Secondaries, unless you have some really fancy need, and skills, create more problems than they solve.[20:15:56] <zamba> jra: well, as i said just now.. i've been using the secondary mx for a while now, since the primary mx went down.. i'm not sure if the primary is out of the woods just yet, so that's why i don't want to alter x domains in dns just yet[20:16:19] <zamba> so while the primary mx is up, i want to instead just send a 450 back to all clients trying to connect to the secondary mx[20:16:23] <jra> btw, I've come up with a very primitive policy server (bash script) you could run on the secondary. it checks if the primary is up and refuses mail in that case[20:16:41] <pickcoder> My secondary is just a different public IP coming in on a different network[20:17:13] <zamba> so it's not possible from the postfix side?[20:20:49] <pickcoder> zamba: look at access[20:21:01] <pickcoder> !access[20:21:02] <knoba> pickcoder: "access" : http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_ACCESS_README.html : An overview of access(5) controls in the Postfix smtpd(8) SMTP server.[20:23:18] <slimjimflim> hi. i just installed postfix for the first time, and i need to figure out how to test it. can anyone help?[20:23:57] <slimjimflim> i tried setting up smtp w/ evolution mail, but it won't connect[20:24:14] <pickcoder> zamba: you can write your own "policy server" for check_policy_service to always return "action=451 service down"[20:24:20] <slimjimflim> using ubuntu gutsy[20:27:45] *** klorinsky has quit IRC[20:27:53] *** theblackbox has joined #postfix[20:30:49] *** havvg has quit IRC[20:42:05] <pickcoder> !basic[20:42:06] <knoba> pickcoder: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[20:42:10] <pickcoder> slimjimflim: ^^^[20:42:28] <slimjimflim> great, thx[20:45:28] *** pslacker has quit IRC[20:48:02] *** aatmaa has quit IRC[20:49:41] *** Ryushin has quit IRC[20:53:30] *** Doug52392 has joined #Postfix[20:54:54] *** mordaunt has quit IRC[20:57:14] <Doug52392> hi[21:00:20] *** unixcoder has joined #postfix[21:01:16] <raz> hm. i have a fairly exotic idea for getting email from my remote server to my dsl box here. i thought about setting up a ssh tunnel (initiated fro $dsl) that creates a tunnel from localhost:1234 on $server to my postfix on $dsl. then i would tell the postfix on $server to use localhost:1234 as smarthost (relay all mail there). whenever $dsl goes down the postfix on $server would just keep the mails on queue and once the tunnel comes back they would be resent. ..[21:01:29] <raz> s/fro/from/[21:01:51] <adaptr> what do you need a tunnel for ?[21:02:10] <raz> adaptr, i forgot to mention: my dsl doesn't have a static ip. so i cannot just relay to an ip.[21:02:21] *** tris- has joined #postfix[21:02:22] <adaptr> yes, you can - dyndns was made for this[21:02:26] <adaptr> get onel, set it up[21:02:28] *** tris has quit IRC[21:02:35] <adaptr> all linuxen can update your dyndns domains[21:02:40] *** tris- is now known as tris[21:02:46] <raz> adaptr, not safely. when my link goes down the next customer will inherit my old ip and could get all my mail.[21:03:09] <adaptr> that is why you would not use a tunnel, but an SASL connection[21:03:12] <cpm> only if they are running your mail server[21:03:20] <adaptr> it also fails when it tries to login[21:03:22] <adaptr> indeed[21:03:38] <adaptr> you're making things diffcult when they aren't[21:03:45] <raz> adaptr, oh, are there docs about that? maybe that's indeed easier[21:03:48] <cpm> back in the good old days, that used to work just fine.[21:03:49] <adaptr> ..which is kind of a skill, I guess[21:04:01] <Doug52392> Hi, my e-mail server randomly stopped sending outbound e-mail. I can send e-mail fine from localhost to a remote e-mail address, but if I use Evolution on the server or try to send e-mail from a different computer, I get this error message:[21:04:04] <Doug52392> Error while performing operation.[21:04:04] <Doug52392> RCPT TO <destination e-mail> failed: <destination e-mail>: Relay access denied[21:04:18] <adaptr> raz as long as it is up, your box is not likely to just "lose" an IP[21:04:22] <cpm> email servers would accept mail from anywhere to anywhere, and then queue and forward when they figured out where the mail was supposed to go.[21:05:04] <raz> adaptr, this is not about likelyness. it's obviously about making it absolutely impossible that someone else could steal my mail. even if that "someone" is malicious and tries really hard.[21:05:47] <adaptr> raz which is why you use SASL for that[21:05:56] <adaptr> it is incredibly standard[21:05:57] <raz> adaptr, checking the docs, thx for the pointer :)[21:06:28] <adaptr> you should also adjust the transport for it to react faster than postfix normally would, and tell it to resend sooner, too[21:06:40] <Doug52392> I get that message whenever sending e-mail through Evolution or another e-mail program. I can send mail fine with the mail command. What's wrong?[21:06:57] <adaptr> your mail server does not accept mail from the network[21:07:17] <adaptr> which could be said to be quite secure[21:08:04] <raz> adaptr, hm. in the sasl docs i only see how to make the server require authentication from the client (i.e. the sender). how do i it the other way round so that my postfix on $server doesn't deliver to foreign smtp servers?[21:08:32] <adaptr> by making that transport deliver only with SASL[21:08:40] <adaptr> it's all about transports baby[21:09:15] <raz> well, i would need it to check some kind of server cert but cannot see an option for that[21:10:10] <adaptr> no, you don't[21:10:17] <adaptr> I am talking about *SASL*, not TLS[21:10:23] <adaptr> SMTP Authentication[21:10:44] <adaptr> if you want encryption on top of that, sure - but it's entirely separate from authentication[21:10:45] <raz> adaptr, it's trivial to hack up a smtp server that would accept any credentials.[21:10:56] <adaptr> raz really ?[21:11:04] <raz> sure[21:11:17] <adaptr> then you obviously don't need anybody's advice on this[21:11:20] <raz> and that would then fool my postfix to deliever the mail to anyone else[21:11:56] <adaptr> it would also have to be able to A. dothis at a second's notice, and B. be able to impersonate the domain names as well[21:12:03] <adaptr> you're really reaching with this[21:12:13] <Doug52392> hello?[21:12:18] <cpm> really reaching.[21:12:19] <adaptr> hi?[21:12:37] <cpm> lo[21:13:37] <raz> adaptr, i already said i want this to be *secure*. sure it's unlikely that someone goes through the effort but heck, do you leave car-windows open when parking next to a wall only because it's highly unlikely that someone will notice?[21:13:44] <Doug52392> My Postfix server does not send e-mail through Evolution anymore. It says "relay access denied", but it works fine if I use the mail command, or send the e-mail through a webmail program on my web server.[21:14:04] <adaptr> Doug52392 I already told you what the problem is: your mail server does not accept mail from the network[21:14:53] <adaptr> raz in that case, you can use only TLS and require it - no authentication needed when you encrypt all traffic[21:15:16] *** hparker has quit IRC[21:15:32] <raz> adaptr, well, the problem is that tls server cert verification doesn't seem to be implemented yet :\[21:15:35] <raz> smtp_sasl_tls_verified_security_options (default: $smtp_sasl_tls_security_options)[21:15:39] <raz> The SASL authentication security options that the Postfix SMTP client uses for TLS encrypted SMTP sessions with a verified server certificate. This feature is still under construction. It will not be included in the Postfix 2.3 release.[21:15:47] <jra> Doug52392: postconf mynetworks[21:16:04] <raz> so, back to my little ssh tunnel i guess[21:16:14] <adaptr> raz postfix is up to 2.5 in the meantime[21:16:20] <adaptr> so you're reading old hat[21:16:37] <raz> oh, then the docs are out of date[21:16:40] <adaptr> unless that *is* from the 2.5 release...[21:16:50] <adaptr> and they probably did not implement it in 2.5 either :([21:16:57] <raz> it's from http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html[21:17:13] <adaptr> yes, those aren't updated all that often, as they do cover the basics[21:17:24] <adaptr> !smtp_sasl_tls_verified_security_options[21:17:25] <knoba> adaptr: Error: "smtp_sasl_tls_verified_security_options" is not a valid command.[21:17:32] <adaptr> see ? even the bot is clueless[21:17:39] <raz> hehe[21:17:40] <adaptr> but then, it's clueless a lot[21:24:50] *** atilaX has quit IRC[21:25:20] *** eye69 has joined #postfix[21:26:34] *** ziyax has quit IRC[21:32:12] *** phnord has joined #postfix[21:33:06] *** capt-rogers has joined #postfix[21:36:50] *** sadmin has joined #postfix[21:37:41] *** duki has quit IRC[21:38:21] *** duki has joined #postfix[21:39:57] *** cpm has quit IRC[21:46:30] <supa_user> jra: can I get a copy of that policy server?[21:47:35] <jra> I have no idea if it still works... but let me search it[21:48:26] *** andi__ has quit IRC[21:49:50] <jra> supa_user: ok, found it. I'll strip the german comments and paste the relevant parts. justamoment.[21:51:05] *** Doug52392 has left #Postfix[21:51:25] <supa_user> thanks[21:58:16] <jra> supa_user: http://pastebin.archlinux.org/19731[21:58:43] <supa_user> jra: arch too? sweet[21:59:09] <jra> The original was http://listi.jpberlin.de/pipermail/postfixbuch-users/2005-January/013831.html ...has been quite a while, and I never used it in "production"[21:59:21] <supa_user> when you said simple you meant it[21:59:45] <supa_user> I don't think I can open a connection for each mail attempt - there are just too many[22:00:03] <supa_user> i'll have to write something that checks every minute and then it checks that file/db/lock/whatever[22:00:26] <supa_user> plus only certain domains have certain primary MXs.[22:00:35] <dragonheart> jra: nice idea[22:00:38] *** {clam} has left #postfix[22:00:41] <supa_user> mine will end up being more complicated[22:08:50] *** wdp has quit IRC[22:09:37] *** jellis has quit IRC[22:09:38] <jra> supa_user: about arch... yep, for almost 2 years now. you should visit #archlinux more often. :p[22:09:58] <supa_user> jra: too many people bother me when I go there[22:11:13] <jra> I can imagine... heh, I'm quite sure I did so myself[22:12:12] <jra> must've been when postfix stayed at 2.2.x for so long[22:16:29] <supa_user> more than likely.[22:16:47] <supa_user> Paul's been keeping up with that hopefully[22:20:46] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[22:22:14] *** kurt has joined #postfix[22:22:52] *** kurt is now known as Riff_[22:23:08] *** Riff_ is now known as Kurt_[22:27:52] <slimjimflim> ok, i went to dnsstuff.com and my server passed all the tests except for mail, i got, 'error: i could not complete a connection to any of your mailservers." however, i can ping mail.myserver.com, and it's not being stopped by my firewall.[22:32:16] *** havvg has joined #postfix[22:33:14] <UQlev> slimjimflim: ping is not SMTP these are different services[22:34:04] <UQlev> slimjimflim: what is IP of your server?[22:35:52] <slimjimflim> 74.139.152.66[22:36:33] *** jstrom has joined #postfix[22:37:22] <UQlev> Scanning 74.139.152.66 (74.139.152.66) port 25[22:37:22] <UQlev> Unable to connect remote host : Invalid argument[22:37:22] <UQlev>[22:37:37] <jstrom> im trying to smtp_sasl_password_maps to work to use authing when it use relayhost.. but it doesnt seem to work.. i got relayhost = mail.domain.com:26 and i've tried both mail.domain.com and mail.domain.com:26 in my passwd_map, but it doesnt seem to use it at al[22:38:19] <slimjimflim> so does that mean that the daemon isn't running?[22:38:50] <supa_user> slimjimflim: yes, or the firewall is blocking tcp 25.[22:38:56] <UQlev> smtp server is down or prohibited by firewall[22:39:16] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[22:39:32] *** brancaleone has joined #postfix[22:40:18] <UQlev> slimjimflim: either your ISP blocking inward packets to 25 port[22:40:31] *** sadmin has quit IRC[22:40:52] <slimjimflim> well, it looks like i've got my firewall rule set to allow access on port 25[22:41:01] <slimjimflim> should i call up my isp?[22:41:19] <slimjimflim> or is there any way to check via localhost[22:41:22] <UQlev> slimjimflim: ask your ISP as well about their policy[22:41:27] *** capt-rogers has quit IRC[22:41:35] <slimjimflim> ya, i think i did when i signed up[22:41:41] <slimjimflim> but i can again[22:42:10] <UQlev> slimjimflim: check first locally via your LAN if 25th port responds[22:42:42] <UQlev> slimjimflim: do you have access to your server?[22:42:51] <slimjimflim> yes, it's local[22:43:18] <UQlev> slimjimflim: show output for "netstat -an | grep :25"[22:44:05] <jra> jstrom: shouldn't you use relayhost = [mail.domain.com]:26 ?[22:45:11] <slimjimflim> http://pastebin.ca/777555[22:46:25] <UQlev> slimjimflim: ha, it is listening only local interface[22:46:43] <UQlev> you can't get access from internet to it[22:47:06] <slimjimflim> oh, cause smtpd is running[22:47:14] <slimjimflim> oh[22:47:38] <slimjimflim> is that one of the install questions: 'local only'[22:48:01] <slimjimflim> cause that's what i set it to[22:48:10] <UQlev> yes, it is "local only"[22:48:25] <slimjimflim> so should i change it to 'internet site'?[22:48:41] <UQlev> slimjimflim: depends on your needs[22:49:17] <jstrom> jra: got it working with mail.domain.com in my map now..[22:49:18] <UQlev> slimjimflim: if you supposed to use it for website - you should not[22:49:21] <jstrom> aws something else :)[22:49:30] <slimjimflim> ya, i am[22:49:43] <slimjimflim> what's the correct value, then[22:50:45] <UQlev> slimjimflim: I have no ideas, what, where..[22:52:53] <slimjimflim> if i run the configuration wizard again i can change 'local only' to something else...what value should i use for a webserver (also using dovecot and clamav if that matters)[22:53:55] *** context has left #postfix[22:54:22] <UQlev> slimjimflim: if I never ran your configuration wizard how can I answer?[22:55:03] <jra> We don't know all options of 'dpkg-reconfigure postfix', so just tell us what's offered.[22:56:14] <Kurt_> slimjimflim, the configuration wizard is only an easy way to insert x amount of commands[22:56:30] *** [diecast] has quit IRC[22:56:47] <Kurt_> slimjimflim, so.. you could start reading at www.postfix.org so you actually know how and what to do. :)[22:57:27] *** context has joined #postfix[22:57:30] <context> oops[22:57:31] *** context has left #postfix[22:59:00] <slimjimflim> oh, i assumed you had...but when i run postconf, i get "inet_interfaces = loopback-only"[22:59:36] <slimjimflim> i'm also reading there[23:05:42] *** UQlev has quit IRC[23:15:18] <slimjimflim> i decided to set it to 'all'[23:15:37] *** eye69 has quit IRC[23:26:10] *** eye69 has joined #postfix[23:27:55] *** aatmaa has joined #postfix[23:29:17] *** grandy has joined #postfix[23:35:50] <grandy> hello -- does anyone know if there is a way that I can get all received mail to be written to a file?[23:36:45] <jra> !always_bcc[23:36:46] <knoba> jra: "always_bcc" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional address that receives a "blind carbon copy" of each message that is received by the Postfix mail system.[23:38:43] <grandy> jra: excellent.... thanks[23:38:48] *** duki has quit IRC[23:41:50] <grandy> jra: i added that but apparently the messages are not being received b/c the address I am sending to is not a valid recipient...[23:43:26] <jra> well, it'll only work on existing addresses[23:44:11] <grandy> jra: so do you think the simplest way to create such valid addresses would be to add aliases?[23:44:21] *** brancaleone has quit IRC[23:44:54] <jra> probably, yes[23:45:05] *** unixcoder has quit IRC[23:45:15] <grandy> jra: ok... excellent thanks[23:58:53] *** pirho has joined #postfix