November 15, 2007 
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November 15, 2007 [00:00:29] *** gpled has joined #postfix[00:00:57] <gpled> rob0: you there?[00:05:30] *** goo has joined #postfix[00:15:44] *** aatmaa has quit IRC[00:16:30] *** jellis has quit IRC[00:21:40] *** alamar has quit IRC[00:26:20] *** gpled has left #postfix[00:27:57] *** alamar has joined #postfix[00:28:09] *** jelly-home has joined #postfix[00:31:35] *** theblackbox has joined #postfix[00:32:32] <donkdonk> most likely a simple thing but when i send email from my server is goes out as donkdonk at localhost dot domain.com. how do i get rid of or change the localhost part? I already tried changing the mydomain directive in the main.cf file.[00:33:51] <rob0> Someone answered you awhile ago. The answer was wrong, but nonetheless you should have acknowledged the attempt.[00:37:53] *** dragonheart has quit IRC[00:39:31] *** alamar has quit IRC[00:39:39] *** alamar has joined #postfix[00:40:41] *** Bejgli has quit IRC[00:40:59] <donkdonk> rob0: well i screwed up. still, i could really use a point in the right direction[00:43:42] *** Bejgli has joined #postfix[00:44:23] *** Inssomniak has joined #postfix[00:49:51] <Inssomniak> is 10 meg emails these days too small?[00:50:03] <Inssomniak> thats what postfix defaults to right?[00:51:03] *** donkdonk has quit IRC[00:55:48] *** solemnwarning has left #Postfix[00:56:39] *** duki has quit IRC[01:00:23] *** nihilis7 has quit IRC[01:07:00] *** j_s has quit IRC[01:10:32] *** hparker has quit IRC[01:13:38] <keanne> afaik, 1MB is postfix's default[01:15:33] <Inssomniak> keanne, 1mb? ok, I thought I read 10mb, I must have been mistaken[01:15:43] *** hparker has joined #postfix[01:16:26] *** war has quit IRC[01:19:41] <rob0> 10MB (actually 9.something) is the default, and most sites won't accept anything bigger.[01:20:00] <rob0> Face it: email is a lousy means for sharing large files.[01:21:16] <keanne> i stand corrected then :)[01:22:44] <keanne> 10MB is the default, was it like that even before the early postfix days? (6 years to be exact :))[01:29:54] <Motoko-chan> rob0, indeed.[01:30:07] <Motoko-chan> Since e-mail causes attachments to grow by about 33%.[01:30:59] <jelly-home> 25%?[01:31:10] <Motoko-chan> 33% on average.[01:31:19] <Motoko-chan> Due to encoding in base64.[01:31:24] <jelly-home> base64 is 6/8 bits[01:31:52] <jelly-home> ah, you're right.[01:32:29] *** metres has joined #postfix[01:32:42] <Motoko-chan> Those 10 meg attachments are actually taking 13 meg in the e-mail (and that is why they get blocked even with a 10 meg limit).[01:33:46] <metres> Hi all, do postfix alone can be used to send message out of my personnal network ?[01:35:27] <rob0> !basic[01:35:28] <knoba> rob0: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[01:35:34] <rob0> !rob0[01:35:34] <knoba> rob0: "rob0" : a bot that reacts to newly joined users with reciting the !basic factoid :)[01:35:43] <metres> because tenet localhost 25 seem working only half-way : I can connect but EHLO does not return anything...[01:36:10] *** harz has joined #postfix[01:36:37] <metres> telnet*[01:37:18] <jelly-home> did you wait for the banner before EHLOing?[01:37:39] <metres> the banner did not came[01:37:45] <jelly-home> then something's amiss[01:37:48] <Motoko-chan> Check log[01:38:12] <harz> hello, I'm trying to setup postfix with spamassassin and clamav (clamsmtp). I have clamsmtp listening on port 10025, but first my mail gets processed via spamassassin - this is working OK. How can, once been processed with spamassassin, send the mail through the clamsmtp port? I currently have, in my master.cf spamassassin section: /usr/sbin/sendmail -oi -f ${sender} ${recipient} <-- I think that needs to change somehow to sent the mail through port 10025 but[01:38:13] <harz> I'm not sure how to do that[01:38:20] <harz> oops.. long msg sorry[01:38:54] <rob0> harz, the typical way to do all of this in a single content_filter is amavisd-new.[01:39:12] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[01:39:17] <jelly-home> can one chain content_filters?[01:39:28] <harz> rob0: yeah I kind of want to avoid amavisd-new because well, extra overhead that's not needed (in my opinion that is)[01:40:12] <jelly-home> harz: have you measured amavisd-new vs. plain spamd?[01:40:20] <rob0> Chaining is possible, just have one hand off to the next. But it might increase the chances of mail loss.[01:40:20] <harz> I have working setup with dspam and clam, dspam can inject it out through a port very easily and nicely but spamassasin can't do that I don't think[01:40:28] <harz> jelly-home: no I haven't actually =)[01:40:36] <jelly-home> pity ;-)[01:40:54] <Inssomniak> I got a question[01:40:56] <harz> ah... ok well seeing that's the more common way of doing things, looks like amavisd-new it is then. Thanks =)[01:41:16] <Inssomniak> all inbound mail is checked with amavisd/spamassassin/clamav, but does it also check mail leaving?[01:41:21] <rob0> harz, I think you're quite wrong about that. Amavisd-new relieves you of the need to run spamd, because it calls SA as perl modules.[01:41:30] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[01:41:39] <rob0> You also save on clamsmtp (but you'd want clamd running.)[01:42:01] <harz> rob0: right ok then. No probs, I'll set it up that way then[01:42:10] <rob0> see also:[01:42:14] <rob0> !cheatsheet[01:42:15] <knoba> rob0: "cheatsheet" : http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt : A HOWTO for pre-DATA spam control.[01:42:34] <jelly-home> yet another poor soul caught in twisted nets of amavisd-new[01:42:49] <harz> ah thankyou[01:42:52] <harz> will check that now[01:43:27] <rob0> I actually get along fine with no content filter at all. But I don't have any heavily-spammed users.[01:43:40] <Inssomniak> I cant for the life of me why my mail server kills emails with .doc attachments[01:43:40] <rob0> (who complain :) )[01:44:06] <jelly-home> lemme guess, your users are only your family? :-)[01:44:35] <rob0> well, I used to run some small-business MTAs, but at the moment, yes.[01:44:45] <rob0> (family and a couple of friends.)[01:47:13] <hparker> jelly-home: I admin 3 MTAs atm (1 for a gov't office, 1 for an ISP, and 1 for a hosting company), and all would cry without amavisd-new/spamassassin.. just what's wrong with amavisd-new I should be aware of?[01:49:17] <jelly-home> hparker: nothing, I was just mocking the worries about the overhead of amavisd-new vs spamd ;-)[01:49:23] *** keanne has quit IRC[01:49:27] <hparker> ahh[01:49:34] * jelly-home uses amavisd-new, too[01:49:55] <hparker> It adds too many goodies to not use it imo[01:49:56] *** ack_syn has joined #postfix[01:50:21] <jelly-home> I kinda liked the sendmail + amavisd-new-milter setup I had before... but it used sendmail.[01:51:05] <hparker> I'm not keen on running something that heavy at connection time... http://mail.odsgc.net/cgi-bin/mailgraph.cgi is a good example of why not to[01:51:34] <jelly-home> lemme guess, incoming queues not keeping up[01:52:20] <hparker> Actuall,y that old ass p4 2.4 runs with a load of < .5 most of the time and < 10 in active[01:53:50] <hparker> When it gets busy it'll have ~400 connections per minute[01:54:22] <Inssomniak> can anyone look at this: http://rafb.net/p/2TiA5v22.html regarding why all mails sent from my server end up in hotmail's junk folder?[01:55:03] <hparker> that's normal, don't worry about it... the reason is hotmail sux[01:55:30] <Inssomniak> I was kinda using it as an example, other server's spam detection often detect it as spam too[01:56:02] <hparker> On fun days you'll send 3 mails to hotmail... 1 makes it to inbox, 1 makes it to spam, and 1 makes it to /dev/null[01:56:15] *** Edward123 has quit IRC[01:56:52] <jelly-home> Inssomniak: do the other destinations give any reason with the 5xx reject message, or do they just swallow your mail?[01:57:07] <hparker> would have to look at why they tagged it... check that your rDNS/DNS is proper and you're not in any RBLs is about all you can do[01:57:50] <Inssomniak> Im not in any RBls that I know of, my ptr/rdns reverse's exactly the same as it forwards to[01:58:35] <Inssomniak> I wish I had an off network email server to test to[01:58:54] <Inssomniak> send emails back and fourth and examine how other servers see it[01:59:58] *** Elite_Chaos has joined #postfix[02:00:07] <Elite_Chaos> Relatively new Computer Security Site http://www.wgforums.com Check it out FORUMS FOR EVERYTHING: Computer Hacking, Computer Security, Computer Networking, Computer Programming, Lots of Warez, Gaming, ++ Lots MORE!!....Thank You. Once again the site is HTTP://WWW.WGFORUMS.COM[02:00:22] <jelly-home> Elite_Chaos: your spam RULES![02:00:39] <Elite_Chaos> ty[02:00:46] <jelly-home> Elite_Chaos: the CAPS guarantee we'll visit your site![02:00:52] <Elite_Chaos> kk[02:00:59] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o hparker[02:01:08] *** hparker sets mode: +b *!*@65.19.247.*[02:01:09] *** Elite_Chaos was kicked by hparker (hparker)[02:01:14] <jelly-home> oopx[02:01:28] <hparker> damnit, wrong button[02:01:39] <jelly-home> your bad![02:01:50] *** hparker sets mode: -o hparker[02:02:06] <hparker> Before I hit that button again i'd better take off my hat[02:03:14] <Inssomniak> error: "your message is larger than the destination computer is willing to accept", its kinda vague but this is the message the user sent me, could this be coming from my server? or the other ISP server?[02:03:41] <hparker> check your logs[02:03:57] <Inssomniak> I broke my logs[02:03:58] <Inssomniak> lol[02:04:20] *** Motoko-chan has quit IRC[02:04:36] <jelly-home> Inssomniak: also, complete headers would be more helpful, see if you can get the user to send it all[02:04:38] <hparker> that's... inconvenient at best[02:05:38] <jelly-home> Inssomniak: this implies the user knows where to find the "internet headers" and how to send them :-|[02:05:52] <Inssomniak> my users are idiots[02:06:32] <jelly-home> well, they're users. It's their job not to know anything.[02:06:44] <Inssomniak> only this one guy though says he is sending .doc and .zip files, that are not making it, his brother cant send him emails, blah, out of 50 accounts, he is the only one that says there is all these problems[02:07:13] <Inssomniak> I tested .doc and .zip up to 10 megabyte, different ones, blah and it all works Im pulling my hair out[02:07:36] *** prebur has quit IRC[02:07:50] <jelly-home> well, increase the limit to 20MB and tell him the limit is 15MB.[02:08:14] <hparker> Maybe it's the other end[02:08:47] <jelly-home> could be, but then his brother couldn't send the same zip to any address[02:09:10] <hparker> ahh[02:09:11] <jelly-home> couldn't have sent?[02:09:30] <jelly-home> couldn't have been able to send?[02:09:37] * jelly-home goes to bed[02:10:49] <hparker> coun't of go to bed?[02:12:58] <rob0> Inssomniak: If you broke your logs, take the time NOW to fix that problem. I won't try to help anyone who can't/won't post logs of a problem.[02:13:21] *** metres has quit IRC[02:14:54] <Inssomniak> I have a log full of errors eg: hostname adsl190-024063072.dyn.etb.net.co verification failed: Name or service not known[02:15:07] <Inssomniak> warnings actually[02:15:13] <hparker> that's a warning, no biggie[02:16:55] <Inssomniak> mail.log, is empty, it always has been[02:18:41] <hparker> where is it configured to log to?[02:20:17] <Inssomniak> ya know what[02:20:22] <Inssomniak> I broke it with uhm[02:20:26] <Inssomniak> logrotate[02:20:56] <Inssomniak> var/log/mail.log {[02:20:56] <Inssomniak> missingok[02:20:56] <Inssomniak> daily[02:20:56] <Inssomniak> rotate 7[02:20:56] <Inssomniak> create[02:20:57] <Inssomniak> compress[02:20:58] <Inssomniak> start 0[02:21:14] <Inssomniak> I guess it doesnt like it when it rotates it, it doesnt continue logging to the file after it runs[02:26:24] <Inssomniak> according to online docs its right, but no log![02:26:53] <Inssomniak> creating it as wrong user I think[02:27:17] <Inssomniak> postfix runs as user postfix, logrotate recreates it user/group root[02:29:11] *** nickjqw has quit IRC[02:32:57] <rob0> syslogd(8) probably runs as root:root.[02:35:22] <Inssomniak> I see at one point my logs were /var/log/mail.log(.info, .err)[02:35:31] <Inssomniak> now I cant get any logfiles created[02:36:30] <rob0> A restart of syslogd should clear that up.[02:37:04] <Inssomniak> syslog-ng?[02:38:03] <rob0> ah, well I can't help with that.[02:38:24] <Inssomniak> well restarting that worked :)[02:38:47] <hparker> It should restart after rotation[02:40:19] <Inssomniak> yea I can see that it should be, (gentoo) seperate files for logrotate, maybe my one for mail runs after the file for syslog-ng runs..[02:55:07] *** metres has joined #postfix[02:58:24] *** jellis has joined #postfix[02:58:52] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[02:58:53] <metres> Do someone knows why I get postfix/smtp[16767]: connect to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[72.14.203.27]: Connection timed out (port 25) in my logs ? (I scan my IP with nmap and the port 25 is open... and seem working...)[03:00:44] <rob0> is ANY mail going out?[03:00:58] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[03:01:51] <metres> only local[03:01:54] *** ack_syn has quit IRC[03:02:39] <rob0> Your ISP is probably blocking your outbound SMTP.[03:02:42] <rob0> !relayhost[03:02:43] <knoba> rob0: "relayhost" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The default host to send non-local mail to when no entry is matched in the optional transport(5) table. When no relayhost is given, mail is routed directly to the destination.[03:02:46] <rob0> !basic[03:02:46] <knoba> rob0: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[03:03:09] <hparker> !rob0[03:03:10] <knoba> hparker: "rob0" : a bot that reacts to newly joined users with reciting the !basic factoid :)[03:04:20] <jelly-home> !hparker[03:04:21] <knoba> jelly-home: Error: "hparker" is not a valid command.[03:04:27] <jelly-home> damn.[03:04:34] <hparker> heh[03:04:56] *** Tachy_ has joined #postfix[03:05:16] <rob0> His wife has been trying for years to command him to do something. ANYthing![03:05:26] <hparker> lol[03:05:50] <hparker> Hey, i replaced a terloit last week... Washing machine over the weekend[03:06:49] *** rootsvr has quit IRC[03:07:51] <jellis> good evening all[03:15:46] *** n01101111x has joined #postfix[03:16:26] *** nox has quit IRC[03:16:32] *** n01101111x is now known as nox[03:17:02] *** Tachy__ has joined #postfix[03:17:03] *** diabel has quit IRC[03:17:15] *** diabel has joined #postfix[03:18:26] *** Tachy has quit IRC[03:19:18] *** misc-- has joined #postfix[03:24:35] *** Signum has quit IRC[03:25:12] *** knoba has quit IRC[03:26:36] <Inssomniak> Nov 14 21:24:08 mail postfix/smtpd[17436]: SSL_accept error from ursa.calvin.edu[153.106.4.1]: -1[03:26:37] <Inssomniak> Nov 14 21:24:08 mail postfix/smtpd[17436]: lost connection after STARTTLS from ursa.calvin.edu[153.106.4.1][03:26:38] *** knoba has joined #postfix[03:26:47] *** Signum has joined #postfix[03:26:54] <Inssomniak> I have no idea why I get this error sometimes[03:27:20] <Inssomniak> my server is rejecting SSL? TLS?[03:29:46] <Inssomniak> do I really need to accept SSL connections?[03:30:02] *** Tachy_ has quit IRC[03:32:27] *** jelly-home has quit IRC[03:34:42] *** harz has quit IRC[03:41:05] <rob0> That would be your decision.[03:44:02] <Inssomniak> may I lose email if I dont have it?[03:46:14] <rob0> Many MTA's do not offer TLS.[03:46:48] *** blake has joined #postfix[03:48:01] * Inssomniak scraps the whole system[03:49:32] *** mmlj4 has joined #postfix[03:49:52] <mmlj4> ok, this is starting to tick me off... if I turn off imap in postfix's files, mail works as expected, to the unix mailboxes. However, if I enable imap, I can send mail from the shell and mail gets delivered to the imap mailboxes, but I cannot send mail to the box from another host without getting the error "Mailbox does not exist". I'm running debian etch. Ideas?[03:50:17] *** pirho has quit IRC[03:57:54] *** amrit|wrk is now known as amrit|bbl[03:58:16] <misc--> if I have this in my main.cf: local_recipient_maps = proxy:unix:passwd.byname $alias_maps $transport_maps then alias_maps (hash:/etc/aliases) should get checked and processed before transport_maps right? For some reason it appears that it ignores it and goes on to send mail straight to transport_maps[04:02:05] <rob0> How do you "turn off imap in postfix's files"? Postfix does not do IMAP.[04:02:22] *** ek has quit IRC[04:11:49] *** idle-boy has quit IRC[04:12:32] <misc--> so local_recipient_maps are used with respect to $mydestination, $inet_interfaces or $proxy_interfaces. I have: mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, localhost, $mydomain yet mail for $mydomain just gets passed straight to transport_maps bypassing my alias_maps. Any ideas why it would be doing that?[04:12:49] <misc--> all I can think of is because it doesn't recognise my domain as being part of $mydestination.[04:12:58] *** idle-boy has joined #Postfix[04:14:04] <Inssomniak> I have some service running on port 143 Im sure has never been used[04:16:10] <misc--> hmm thats weird, in the logs it shows localhost.localdomain is connecting, which means $mydomain is actually 'localdomain'. Although hostname -f yields my correct fqdn hostname and hostname -s shows my hostname.[04:20:34] <misc--> is it valid to have a fqdn that is also your domain name? so... host.domain.com, the email domain is also @host.domain.com ?[04:23:39] *** sn00p- has joined #postfix[04:23:40] <rob0> !transport_maps[04:23:41] <knoba> rob0: "transport_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup tables with mappings from recipient address to (message delivery transport, next-hop destination). See transport(5) for details.[04:24:10] <rob0> You would NOT want to list $transport_maps in $local_recipient_maps.[04:24:23] <rob0> the format is different, for one thing.[04:24:24] <misc--> well thats the thing, I haven't...[04:24:32] <misc--> oops[04:24:33] <misc--> yes I have[04:25:16] <rob0> $transport_maps says where/how mail to those addresses is to be delivered.[04:25:51] <rob0> In a typical Postfix install, you would not need transport_maps at all.[04:26:46] <misc--> right... in this case, I have another local system taking care of mail delivery so that's why I've got transport maps. But I took it out of my local_recipient_maps and sent another mail to root@mydomain but still it gets delivered via transport_maps[04:27:33] <rob0> 03:25 < rob0> $transport_maps says where/how mail to those addresses is to be delivered.[04:28:04] <mmlj4> rob0: you have to tell it to, in main.cf (local_transport = cyrus) and master.cf (cyrus unix - n n - - pipe flags=R user=cyrus argv=/usr/sbin/cyrdeliver -e -m ${extension} ${user})[04:28:46] <mmlj4> as in, I enabled it after I installed cyrus imap[04:28:55] <rob0> Ah, so it was a Cyrus question. I don't do Cyrus.[04:29:20] <mmlj4> not necessarily a cyrus question, I'm not sure where the fault is[04:29:50] <rob0> The fault might be that Cyrus and Postfix don't use the same source of local usernames/aliases.[04:30:00] <mmlj4> how does postfix (or any MTA) decide whether an email is originated locally from the shell, or came in off the network?[04:30:14] <mmlj4> correct, they don't[04:30:20] <misc--> rob0: so, even though I have my alias_maps set, and a mail is delivered to an address like root@mydomain, then if 'mydomain' is listed in transport_maps, then does that means that transport_maps takes preference? Even though my system domain name is mydomain, then because its listed in transport_maps, this means that transport_maps takes over and not alias_maps[04:30:39] <mmlj4> but again, if I turn on imap and send mail at the command prompt, it works, but if I send mail from another host, it fails[04:31:05] <rob0> It knows that a mail is originated locally if it ... originates locally! That question makes no sense.[04:31:32] <misc--> yeah sorry about that, it didn't make much sense[04:31:41] <rob0> no, I meant mmlj4[04:31:56] <rob0> but misc--'s question has been answered[04:31:59] <misc--> oh =)[04:33:12] *** ek has joined #Postfix[04:34:32] <misc--> ok I see, yeah transport_domains takes over from whatever rule I have in there. If I have my domain name set as 'mydomain.com' and in transports I have @mydomain.com => 127.0.0.1:10025, then root at mydomain dot com gets handled by the serivce at 127.0.0.1:10025[04:35:46] <misc--> would still be nice to have a 'global' alias I can use for all domains so that it checks the alias files and if the email address exists in there then it doesn't go to transports (sorry if this isn't making much sense)[04:38:46] *** el_cubano is now known as il_italiano[04:38:56] *** il_italiano is now known as el_cubano[04:39:40] *** roe__ has quit IRC[04:41:48] *** djs_2_6 has quit IRC[04:41:48] *** johnny_ has joined #postfix[04:42:09] *** roe has joined #postfix[04:43:02] <johnny_> hi, i'm trying to debug why i'm getting bad startup command throttling[04:43:05] <johnny_> any suggestions?[04:43:17] <johnny_> i tried running postfix manually with -vv but that didn't help much[04:44:21] <rob0> I bet you're not seeing all the mail.* logs, because there was more information logged about the problem. And no, do not use verbose logging.[04:46:27] <johnny_> aha.. it wasn't in mail.warn .. and i don't have a mail.err[04:46:33] <johnny_> it was in mail.log[04:46:38] <johnny_> unexpected[04:51:01] <rob0> Debian. sigh[04:51:39] <rob0> I can almost guess your problem is chroot.[04:52:39] * hparker shoves rob0 into a chroot[04:52:44] <rob0> They need a debian-postfix channel, because I'm tired of dealing with all their problems. :)[04:52:50] <hparker> :-o[04:52:58] <rob0> I nominate hparker to be the op.[04:53:03] <johnny_> nah.. it wasn't chroot[04:53:08] <johnny_> it was me deleting mailman[04:53:10] <hparker> lol[04:53:17] <johnny_> and postfix not being smart enough to ignore a missing file[04:53:24] <johnny_> that isn't required that is[04:53:33] <hparker> what file?[04:53:39] <rob0> If it's listed in $alias_maps, it's required.[04:53:41] <johnny_> my entire old mailman install that wasn't ative anymore[04:54:03] * hparker thinks about GIGO[04:54:10] <rob0> Postfix is quite a bit smarter than johnny_ in that regard.[04:54:21] <rob0> Postfix doesn't want to lose valid mail.[04:54:21] <mmlj4> hey, I'm not a fan of debian by any means... it unfortunately was the best choice for my mix of servers, sigh[04:55:20] <mmlj4> debian: "we complicate it for you so you don't have to"[04:55:31] <rob0> I *am* a fan of Debian, sort of, ironically. I just hate their Postfix maintainer.[04:55:50] <hparker> heh.. Someone I was chatting with earlier decided to update samba and ldap on a debian box... then asked whydahell it was 2+ years old[04:56:04] *** obscurant has quit IRC[04:57:13] <mmlj4> if I could have pulled off using freebsd, I'd have done it in a heartbeat[04:58:12] <thumbs> rob0: I hate their httpd maintainer, too.[04:59:02] <johnny_> aha, now i get to go home, even tought i coudn't fix the autologin bug on ltsp :([04:59:05] <johnny_> though*[04:59:10] <johnny_> bug filed..[04:59:16] <johnny_> or rather commented it[05:05:52] *** johnny_ has quit IRC[05:39:52] *** aaronc_ has joined #postfix[05:41:23] *** metres has quit IRC[05:46:54] *** kk_CHN has joined #postfix[05:53:02] *** aaronc has quit IRC[05:55:39] *** githogori has joined #postfix[06:03:23] *** Tinozaure is now known as __Tino[06:03:27] *** __Tino is now known as Tinozaure[06:22:44] *** lunaphyte_ has quit IRC[06:25:03] *** black_jo1hny has joined #postfix[06:26:42] *** ovd has quit IRC[06:27:26] *** hax has quit IRC[06:28:18] *** hax has joined #postfix[06:32:29] *** ovd has joined #postfix[06:34:53] *** black_johhny has quit IRC[06:35:41] *** Motoko-chan has joined #postfix[06:41:38] *** DarklyCute has joined #postfix[06:53:39] *** misc-- has quit IRC[06:56:46] *** Motoko-chan has quit IRC[07:02:45] *** sn00p- has quit IRC[07:05:13] *** oates|zzzZ is now known as oates|AFK[07:11:52] *** solar_ant has quit IRC[07:21:32] *** DarklyCute has quit IRC[07:25:04] *** Motoko-chan has joined #postfix[07:29:09] *** deskdevil has joined #postfix[07:29:14] <deskdevil> good morning[07:30:15] <deskdevil> I nee dto know where I can whitelist an emailaddress so it will not be scanned by clam-av[07:44:36] *** diveli has quit IRC[07:45:47] *** lunaphyte_ has joined #postfix[07:52:47] <Motoko-chan> Depends on how you are calling the scanning engine[08:00:28] * hparker calls rob0 to scan things[08:08:11] *** ek__ has joined #Postfix[08:11:42] *** ek has quit IRC[08:11:44] *** ek__ is now known as ek[08:13:32] <deskdevil> Motoko-chan: well I have set up two smtp daemons for this[08:13:55] <Motoko-chan> Okay...[08:14:02] <Motoko-chan> Details on how the setup works?[08:14:25] *** jelly-home has joined #postfix[08:14:32] *** Zeit|awy_ has quit IRC[08:14:43] *** idle-boy has quit IRC[08:16:02] *** idle-boy has joined #Postfix[08:17:11] <deskdevil> well one smtp-d accepts the mail, then clam-av scans it and after scanning clam-av send the mail to another smtp-d which only accepts emails from the clam-av and the 2nd daemon delivers it[08:17:30] <Motoko-chan> How do you send to the scanner?[08:17:49] *** prebur has joined #postfix[08:20:38] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[08:23:01] <deskdevil> sorry had a phonecall[08:23:30] <deskdevil> well I send it to the scanner via "content_filter" in the main.cf[08:24:01] <Motoko-chan> Directly?[08:24:35] <deskdevil> content_filter = smtp-amavis:[127.0.0.1]:10024[08:24:38] <deskdevil> thats the line[08:24:41] <deskdevil> so I think yes[08:25:48] <Motoko-chan> Ah, amavisd.[08:26:05] <Motoko-chan> Look up how to set virus-lover for certain addresses.[08:26:31] <deskdevil> virus lover is a seperate tool or in amavis integrated?[08:26:56] <Motoko-chan> It is a flag you can give to addresses.[08:26:59] <Motoko-chan> In amavisd-new.[08:27:11] <Motoko-chan> It bypasses virus scanning for that address.[08:27:15] <deskdevil> ok I will google it. thank you so far[08:33:53] *** hparker has quit IRC[08:36:33] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[08:39:53] <deskdevil> Motoko-chan: for me it looks like virus-lover is responsible for the recipient address but I need something that can bypass an email from e defined sender[08:46:09] <Motoko-chan> Ah.[08:47:43] <Motoko-chan> Look at smtpd_sender_restrictions[08:58:06] *** githogori has quit IRC[09:00:42] *** klauwhamer has quit IRC[09:00:57] *** klauwhamer has joined #postfix[09:08:34] *** k-man has quit IRC[09:13:37] *** prebur has quit IRC[09:15:52] *** poisdeux has joined #postfix[09:18:09] *** Motoko-chan has quit IRC[09:24:29] *** harobed has joined #postfix[09:28:54] *** Zeit|awy has joined #postfix[09:29:34] *** cutmasta has joined #postfix[09:29:55] *** duki has joined #postfix[09:43:05] <Internat3> this is probably a stupid question, but is there a way to limit the ammount of smtp process that keep getting spawned? probably when its trying to process the queue?[09:43:27] <Internat3> would it just be a matter of setting the max procs in the master.cf file from 0 to some limited ammount, ie 10?[09:45:02] <R1ck> yes[09:48:33] <Internat3> hmms that didnt seem to work[09:48:55] <Internat3> one would assume if i set the smpt to be limited to 10, i would get 30 instances of "smtp -t unix -u -c" running when the queue gets flushed[09:48:58] *** duki has quit IRC[09:49:27] <R1ck> would or wouldnt[09:49:32] <Internat3> wouldnt[09:49:36] <Internat3> sorry typo[09:51:34] <Internat3> ok, well looking back over the config i may have done the wrong thing.. i limited the smtpd not smtp which seems to be the queue being processed..[09:57:07] *** solar_ant has joined #postfix[10:01:28] *** war has joined #postfix[10:05:04] *** amrit|bbl is now known as amrit|zzz[10:06:33] *** Edward123 has joined #postfix[10:09:13] *** aozturk has joined #postfix[10:26:56] *** fifo_ has joined #postfix[10:27:29] <fifo_> Hey, currently our mailserver doesn't support virtual domains, <somename>@<anydomain> all gets delivered to the same account, ie. <somename>. This is intended[10:28:01] <fifo_> We are hosting 6 domains on this server, we do however want one account, ie. photo@domain1, and photo@domain2 ... photo@domain6 all to be separate[10:28:22] <fifo_> How can I go about doing this? without converting everything to virtual hosts[10:29:06] <fifo_> Even if I have to rewrite the e-mails to be delivered like photo@domain1 TO photo.domain1, photo@domain2 TO photo.domain2[10:29:17] *** vms has quit IRC[10:29:22] *** memetic has joined #postfix[10:29:41] <fifo_> Basically rewriting an exact match <name at domain dot com> to be delivered to an account containing the domain in it's name, like name.domain at domain dot com[10:37:32] *** HuHH has joined #postfix[10:38:14] *** HuHH has quit IRC[10:39:00] <fifo_> Or more simply, how can I rewrite mail by exact recipient e-mail address, even if the server doesn't do virtual domains?[10:44:40] *** prebur has joined #postfix[10:47:50] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[10:48:41] *** mark-use has joined #postfix[10:54:51] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[10:55:03] *** tris has quit IRC[10:55:12] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[10:57:02] *** Roobarb-Work has joined #postfix[10:59:10] <f3ew> aliases[10:59:36] <f3ew> fifo_ you can use virtual_alias_maps without using virtual domains[11:00:03] *** seemant has quit IRC[11:00:10] *** mmlj4 has quit IRC[11:00:26] *** rob0 has quit IRC[11:00:54] *** mmlj4 has joined #postfix[11:01:44] <fifo_> Yeah, I ended up doing that. I tried it at first, and it looked like it didn't deliver. It seems that if it matches there, and redirects to another account, then the normal aliases for this "other" account isn't applied[11:02:15] <fifo_> ex. photo@d1 goes to photo_d1@d1, then there is an alias "photo_d1: photo_d1, photo_d1 at other dot server"[11:02:32] <fifo_> it seemed to only deliver to "photo_d1", and not "photo_d1 at other dot server"[11:02:55] <fifo_> now i just list photo_d1 at other dot server in the virtual alias map file as well[11:02:56] <f3ew> logs?[11:03:01] <f3ew> ah, that works[11:03:21] <fifo_> Log show it rewrites to photo_d1, and thats it, nothing further, as if the alias file doesn't even exist[11:10:20] <f3ew> Hmmm[11:10:39] *** rob0 has joined #postfix[11:12:31] <sysmonk> ah, i've saw rob0 hostname! buahahaa[11:12:51] * sysmonk executes ./kewl_0day_exploit -h sorry.nodns4.us[11:13:19] <f3ew> sorry.nodns4.us. 7200 IN A 127.0.0.1[11:13:22] <f3ew> oops[11:13:23] <f3ew> :P[11:13:54] * sysmonk also executes a postconf -e "luser_relay = rob0@sorry.nodns4.us"[11:13:54] <sysmonk> :)[11:25:52] *** brancaleone has joined #postfix[11:34:10] *** meandtheshell has joined #postfix[11:35:35] *** andrago has joined #postfix[11:35:38] <andrago> hi[11:36:27] <andrago> is possible to redirect the mail that one account receives to another one?, not alias. The two accounts should can be able to send and receive emails[11:36:27] <andrago> thanks[11:42:04] <sysmonk> andrago: make two aliases, one to the original account, second - to the second account[11:42:23] <sysmonk> i.e. andrago at domain dot com -> andrago at domain dot com,somebody@domain.com[11:43:04] <andrago> it doesn't permit me to alias to an existent account[11:43:09] <f3ew> it does[11:43:26] <andrago> well, I try again[11:47:58] <andrago> I added this line to the postfix aliases file: andrago at domain dot com : andrago at domain dot com,somebody@domain.com[11:48:24] <andrago> reloaded postfix, but the mail deson't arrive to the second one[11:50:50] *** lasantha1978 has joined #postfix[11:51:01] *** Tangent has joined #postfix[11:51:44] <Tangent> Hi all - Whenever I send emails from my laptop via my postfix box, they get marked up as spam because I'm sending from a dynamic IP address[11:52:00] <Tangent> I'm looking for a way to disable the content_filter for authenticated SMTP sessions[11:52:16] <Tangent> I only really want to check spam for random internet mails.. not for authenticated trusted users[11:52:27] <Tangent> Anyone know a quick and easy way?[11:52:48] <sysmonk> you're using virtual or local?[11:53:00] <Tangent> virtual[11:53:08] <sysmonk> err[11:53:09] <sysmonk> sorry[11:53:12] <sysmonk> it was for andrago :)[11:53:13] <Tangent> :)[11:53:26] <andrago> I used virtual and local[11:53:31] <andrago> both, but no one worked[11:53:48] <sysmonk> Tangent: use a different port ( i 465 ) for sasl[11:53:52] <andrago> well, not, I used virtual and local users[11:54:09] <andrago> I try with local email adress[11:54:16] <sysmonk> andrago: i'm asking for the current configuration[11:54:48] <Tangent> sysmonk, I do use 465 for SASL.. but there are places where that port's blocked anyway so 25 is the only option... but 25 with auth is still good enough to be trusted as not-spam in my book[11:54:48] <sysmonk> andrago: if you're using local transport only, then the alias file should look like: andrago: andrago,somebody[11:55:18] <sysmonk> Tangent: if you use 465 for sasl, you can specify "content_filter =" in master.c[11:55:29] <sysmonk> master.cf*, and then it won't check though content_filter[11:56:07] <andrago> ok, I'm using virtual transport[11:56:46] <sysmonk> Tangent: and if you want the same solution for port 25, you'd have to code a policy script[11:57:10] <andrago> in fact the mails users not appear in the passwd file, are created by the webmanager of the mail[11:57:16] <sysmonk> andrago: there's a different file for virtual aliases[11:57:27] <sysmonk> and it doesn't have the ":" between the source and destination[11:57:37] <Tangent> sysmonk, Do you have a URL I could look at for policy scripts ? That's not something I've come across before[11:58:00] <sysmonk> !policyd[11:58:01] <knoba> sysmonk: Error: "policyd" is not a valid command.[11:58:06] <andrago> thx sysmonk, I think I found on the same directory of the main.cf[11:58:11] <andrago> I try in this file[11:58:18] <sysmonk> !SMTPD_POLICYD[11:58:18] <knoba> sysmonk: Error: "SMTPD_POLICYD" is not a valid command.[11:58:23] <sysmonk> !SMTPD_POLICYD_README[11:58:24] <knoba> sysmonk: Error: "SMTPD_POLICYD_README" is not a valid command.[11:58:27] <sysmonk> ah[11:58:29] <sysmonk> !SMTPD_POLICY[11:58:30] <knoba> sysmonk: "SMTPD_POLICY" : http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_POLICY_README.html[11:58:34] <sysmonk> here you go Tangent :)[12:01:36] *** asmas has joined #postfix[12:02:36] <Tangent> Lovely.. tanks sysmonk[12:03:53] * sysmonk is a tank[12:03:54] <sysmonk> :)[12:04:11] <Tangent> Cool.. do you have a big turret gun?[12:04:34] <Tangent> A big turret gun would be great for those boring meetings[12:04:37] <sysmonk> yeah, between my legs :P[12:05:05] <Tangent> Yeah.. that would be great for boring ;)[12:08:27] <andrago> a little question, how can I rebuild the aliases.db manually?[12:09:15] <sysmonk> andrago: postalias[12:11:18] *** ^Willie^ has joined #postfix[12:12:22] *** chrisq has quit IRC[12:13:20] *** anebi has joined #postfix[12:15:49] <andrago> ok, thanks[12:16:43] *** solar_ant has quit IRC[12:20:22] *** duki has joined #postfix[12:25:00] *** tris has joined #postfix[12:25:54] <anebi> hi, i want to ask about some parameters, can you give me more info about reject_unverified_sender?[12:26:07] <sysmonk> !reject_unverified_sender[12:26:08] <knoba> sysmonk: Error: "reject_unverified_sender" is not a valid command.[12:26:09] <anebi> we have problem with rejecting non exist recipients and senders[12:26:22] <sysmonk> anebi: just ask the full question[12:26:29] <sysmonk> if somebody knows the answer - they'll answer[12:27:41] <anebi> how is the best way to configure postfix to not accept mails from non exist senders and also to reject mail if recipients is non exist?[12:28:35] <sysmonk> reject_unverified_sender and reject_unknown_destination[12:29:06] <anebi> we have this configuraion right now: http://pastebin.com/d342f80ba[12:29:13] <sysmonk> err, sorry, the second one is reject_unauth_destination[12:31:28] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[12:31:44] <sysmonk> anebi: if you want to reject non-existent senders, you should add the reject_unverified_sender to smtpd_sender_restrictions[12:31:47] *** theblackbox has quit IRC[12:33:06] *** Internat3 has quit IRC[12:34:16] <anebi> sysmonk: ok, i will add this. how can i do the same think for non exist recipients too? Our problem with recipients is this - some of the recipienrs that are non exist are rejecting, and others not, i can't understand why postfix make this, it should reject all non exist recipients[12:35:01] <sysmonk> anebi: can you give an example of such action?[12:35:05] <sysmonk> an log entry for that[12:35:31] <anebi> yes, give me a minute[12:38:08] *** internat85 has joined #postfix[12:39:54] <sysmonk> anebi: as i see, you are using cyrus, maybe your cyrus user db is out of sync with your virtual_* stuff[12:41:58] *** duki has quit IRC[12:42:01] *** theblackbox has joined #postfix[12:44:41] <andrago> sysmonk: I made the change in virtual and updated virtual.db, but the mails only are received by one email account, as always. I used several combinations of the virtual entry[12:45:01] <andrago> no errors appears on the logs[12:45:05] *** jbt has joined #postfix[12:45:18] <sysmonk> andrago: postconf -n and pastebin the output[12:47:36] <andrago> http://pastebin.com/d331e9a87[12:47:53] <anebi> sysmonk: reject_unverified_sender works, thanks. yes we are using cyrus-imap, i'dont know maybe you right[12:47:59] *** solar_ant has joined #postfix[12:48:43] <sysmonk> anebi: if you'd show a log entry for the unjrected bad recipient, i could say something more, but now - it's just a guess[12:48:55] <sysmonk> andrago: one moment, i have some work too :)[12:50:03] <andrago> don't worry sysmonk, thanks a lot for you time and patience .-)[12:56:01] <anebi> here is a part from the log: http://pastebin.com/de6545[12:56:33] <anebi> this user is non-exist : accounting at alphamedica dot de[12:58:16] <sysmonk> one moment, one more SR to do[12:58:17] *** dragonheart has joined #postfix[12:58:45] <anebi> np :)[12:59:20] *** jbt has quit IRC[13:01:13] <sysmonk> ok, who's first[13:01:40] <anebi> lets be andrago, np :)[13:02:08] <sysmonk> andrago: you're sending to domain which isn't your $myhostname?[13:03:04] <andrago> one second[13:03:36] <andrago> yes[13:03:45] <sysmonk> k[13:03:56] <andrago> I'm sending to more domains than the one is $myhostname[13:04:11] <sysmonk> andrago: pastebin your /etc/postfix/virtual.mysql and virtual.regexp[13:04:30] <andrago> ok[13:04:48] <andrago> but they seem to be very short to handle all the things in virtual[13:05:11] <sysmonk> just do it :)[13:06:03] <andrago> mysql http://pastebin.com/d2033ce3d[13:06:37] <andrago> regexp http://pastebin.com/d162b97c7[13:06:40] <sysmonk> andrago: heh, you've could hide the password :P[13:07:20] <andrago> yeah, I know that[13:07:41] <sysmonk> andrago: i don't know your web app to do the postfix stuff, so i don't know what to do[13:07:44] <sysmonk> 1. insert a mysql row[13:07:54] <sysmonk> 2. add another lookup table to virtual_alias_*[13:07:59] <sysmonk> which way do you want to do it ? :)[13:09:42] <andrago> 2[13:09:48] <andrago> will be better[13:10:03] <sysmonk> ok, then edit main.cf, and add change the virtual_alias_maps line[13:10:05] <sysmonk> to ...[13:10:25] <sysmonk> virtual_alias_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/virtual.mysql, regexp:/etc/postfix/virtual.regexp, hash:/etc/postfix/virtual.file[13:10:30] <andrago> ok[13:10:33] <andrago> thanks[13:10:45] <sysmonk> don't reload postfix yet[13:10:59] <sysmonk> now create the /etc/postfix/virtual.file[13:11:15] <sysmonk> and add a line like: andrago at domain dot com andrago at domain dot com,somebody@domain.com[13:14:08] *** dragner has joined #postfix[13:14:11] *** UQlev has quit IRC[13:14:12] <dragner> hi[13:15:14] <dragner> could someone help me?[13:16:17] *** Kirann has joined #postfix[13:16:21] <sysmonk> andrago: so ?[13:16:23] <Trengo> hi, could you ask first, please?[13:16:50] <andrago> one moment, restarting daemons[13:17:00] <sysmonk> andrago: damn it, i didn't say to do that[13:17:15] <sysmonk> andrago: you have to postmap the file first[13:17:16] <andrago> ok[13:17:21] <andrago> yes[13:17:26] <Kirann> Hi, my postfix is getting DDoS'd. Is there anything I could do to prevent it within postfix?[13:17:29] <dragner> ofc :) im trying to setup a vmail server postfix+postgrest+courrier+mailman[13:17:32] <sysmonk> andrago: after editing and saving the file, do a postmap /etc/postfix/virtual.file[13:17:36] <sysmonk> andrago: and then restart it[13:17:41] <sysmonk> andrago: and then try if it works[13:17:54] <andrago> ok, I was in the step of restarting, all the other things are done[13:18:41] *** adam33 has joined #postfix[13:18:46] <dragner> all works fine only mailman dont works[13:18:53] <dragner> when i send mail to the list[13:19:09] <dragner> but I think than is not mailman problem is postfix problem[13:19:48] <dragner> the main problem is when i send a mail to the list @list.mydomain.net[13:19:56] *** kk_CHN has quit IRC[13:20:07] <dragner> the mail arrives to the smtp server[13:20:20] <sysmonk> anebi: grep F3A9A3698390 in the maillog[13:20:38] <dragner> postfix use virtual-aliases and change test at list dot mydomain.net to test[13:20:51] <anebi> sysmonk: ok[13:20:52] <dragner> this is correct[13:20:57] *** Lap_64 has joined #postfix[13:21:08] *** Pondiboy has joined #postfix[13:21:42] <dragner> but the next step than do is change test to test at mydomain dot net[13:21:55] <dragner> this is the wrong thing[13:22:44] <anebi> sysmonk: http://pastebin.com/d51d3e71[13:23:14] <dragner> DA752952A: to=<test at mydomain dot net>, orig_to=<test at list dot mydomain.net>, relay=virtual, delay=1.2, delays=1.1/0.01/0/0.05, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (unknown user: "test at mydomain dot net")[13:23:33] <andrago> sysmonk thanks for the time, it doesn't work. This evening I'll try again[13:23:35] <dragner> i think than the problem is in the relay system[13:23:53] <dragner> relay=virtual I think than relay have to be local[13:24:00] <dragner> but i can change it can someone help me?[13:24:05] <dragner> cant*[13:24:08] <sysmonk> andrago: first of all, it wasn't sent, it was discarded by antispam system, secondly does accounting at almedica-berlin dot de exist?[13:24:20] <lasantha1978> Hi all, If I install postfix from source code, is it secure than the install it from rpm. ?[13:24:21] <sysmonk> andrago: show the log file, what does it say[13:24:51] <andrago> one second, I search for the error[13:24:52] <sysmonk> lasantha1978: it's all depends on your system/distribution, not on postfix :)[13:25:49] *** Tangent has quit IRC[13:25:52] <anebi> sysmonk: no, this user not exist, but smtp accepted the mails, yes it is discarded i see this, but this should be rejected before to go to the amavisd[13:26:09] <sysmonk> anebi: the user doesn't exist, but does the alias exist?[13:26:54] <anebi> the alias, yes[13:27:13] <sysmonk> anebi: postmap -q "accounting at almedica-berlin dot de" hash:/etc/postfix/virtual[13:27:25] <sysmonk> and postmapq -q "accounting at almedica-berlin dot de" ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap-aliases.cf[13:27:38] <sysmonk> ah, it does[13:27:43] <sysmonk> so, you've got your answer :)[13:28:01] <adam33> Hi all, we got a little problem with the integration of Postfix-with-virtual-domains and OpenLDAP+TLS.[13:28:03] <adam33> I am using alias_maps with LDAP for which the connection is set through STARTTLS. Now I am also using LDAP for virtual_domain_domains, it works when not using STARTTLS, however it fails to connect when using STARTTLS.[13:28:07] <adam33> Anyone?[13:28:24] <sysmonk> anebi: you could add reject_unverified_recipient and it will reject this kind of email[13:28:25] *** duki has joined #postfix[13:28:40] <fifo_> I have an e-mail account which recieves e-mails plus attachments. Is it possible to deliver this e-mail, plus send the email without the attachments to another acocunt? Even if I have to pipe it through a script that does this?[13:28:53] <sysmonk> anebi: but don't do it, if you use autocreate in cyrus[13:28:59] * sysmonk out for a smoke[13:29:11] <anebi> sysmonk: yeah :) from postmap -q "accounting at almedica-berlin dot de" hash:/etc/postfix/virtual: empry result and from second also empty result[13:29:36] <anebi> we are using ispman for the point[13:30:17] <sysmonk> anebi: uh, shouldn't be emty in some of them, atleast postfix sees that it's an alias to the accounting at alphamedica dot de[13:30:20] <sysmonk> k, afk[13:31:31] <anebi> i don't know this is strange[13:33:00] <anebi> when i connect from telnet to the mail server and try to send mail to accounting at alphamedica dot de it rejected me with 450 code, but then how it continue to accept messages to this email address, why rejects me, and accept the others[13:33:06] <lasantha1978> Thank for the comment. If I use CentOS and with only required s/w installed Is it secure to use compiled postfix server I am asking to get general idea to change my sendmail and exchange servers to postfix on CenntOS.[13:37:24] *** Kirann has left #postfix[13:38:20] <sysmonk> anebi: you're looking from the bad side :)[13:38:43] <sysmonk> anebi: first of all, try sending to accounting at almedica-berlin dot de, and not to accounting at alphamedia dot de[13:39:23] <anebi> sysmonk:yes, this was my mistake. i did it before minutes, it accepted the mail[13:39:42] <sysmonk> anebi: sure, cause somewhere you have an alias for it[13:41:17] <milligan> lasantha1978, I don't see any reason postfix would impose a bigger security risk than sendmail[13:42:01] <sysmonk> postfix was created as a secure alternative to sendmail[13:42:55] *** aozturk has quit IRC[13:44:47] <anebi> sysmonk: i checked now in ldap records: there are only these lines for almedica-berlin.de:[13:44:47] <anebi> mailLocalAddress: @almedica-berlin.de[13:44:47] <anebi> mailForwardingAddress: @alphamedica.de[13:45:16] <sysmonk> anebi: yup, that's the problem...[13:45:39] <sysmonk> it says 'accept all mails to @almedica-berlin.de and forward them to @alphamedica.de'[13:45:46] <sysmonk> a "catch-all" in other words[13:46:41] <anebi> and these are the lines from ldap_alias.cf:[13:46:42] <anebi> query_filter = (|(mailLocalAddress=%s)(mailAlias=%s)(uid=%s))[13:46:42] <anebi> result_attribute = mailRoutingAddress,mailForwardingAddress[13:46:42] <anebi> ldap-aliases.cf (END)[13:47:09] *** theblackbox has quit IRC[13:47:10] <sysmonk> anebi: 1. always use pastebin if you want to paste >= 3 lines[13:47:16] <sysmonk> secondly, the config is allright[13:47:22] <sysmonk> it's the alias itself which sucks :)[13:48:02] <anebi> sysmonk: perfect, i will try later to fix this .... thanks a lot :)[13:48:30] <sysmonk> anebi: i see few ways of fixing it ..[13:48:48] <sysmonk> 1. use reject_unverified_recipient, but it may break your config if you use autocreate[13:48:57] *** brancaleone has quit IRC[13:49:26] <sysmonk> 2. delete this alias, and add an alias with @almedica-berlin.de to each use in @alphamedia.de[13:49:44] <sysmonk> i.e. user at almedica-berlind dot de -> user at alphamedia dot de[13:50:25] *** eject_ck has joined #postfix[13:50:43] *** aozturk has joined #postfix[13:53:02] <andrago> sysmonk: the logs doesn't reveal anything, at least that I can realise. Thanks for your time. I will continue tomorrow.[13:53:33] <lasantha1978> Thanks for the informations[13:53:34] <anebi> sysmonk: i will discuse these things with my boss and will choice how to fix it :) thanks for everything :)[13:53:53] *** ashokcvs has joined #postfix[13:53:58] <sysmonk> np[13:53:59] *** lasantha1978 has left #postfix[13:54:19] <ashokcvs> hi all , like to know how to run postfix in debug mode, to increase the log level[13:54:40] *** oates|AFK is now known as oates[13:55:15] <sysmonk> !DEBUG[13:55:15] <knoba> sysmonk: "DEBUG" : http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html : a good starting point for how to deal with problems and to report information to those who might help. Post your information in a pastebin such as http://pastebin.ca/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ .[13:57:22] *** Pondiboy has quit IRC[13:58:44] *** asmas has quit IRC[14:00:14] <anebi> i have another question. when we use reject_unverified_sender, i get this kind of things in the log: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from .....: 450 4.1.7 <Info at letstradeonebay dot com>: Sender address rejected: unverified address: Address verification in progress;[14:01:17] <anebi> it means that the other side don't answer for validation?[14:01:36] *** cpm has joined #postfix[14:02:01] *** andrago has quit IRC[14:03:55] <sep> anebi, correct and you'll find that a shitload of mailservers don't support sender verification since it's mostly used for email address harvesting for spammers.[14:04:45] *** tris has quit IRC[14:08:49] *** jellis has quit IRC[14:11:09] <anebi> sep: thanks for the fast reply :) for now i will comment this line from sender restrictions[14:11:34] *** jellis has joined #postfix[14:19:00] *** mark-use_ has joined #postfix[14:25:34] *** hans_ has quit IRC[14:25:47] *** mark-use__ has joined #postfix[14:27:44] *** cpm has quit IRC[14:28:07] *** ack_syn has joined #postfix[14:30:34] *** mark-use has quit IRC[14:32:43] *** Predom[Work] has joined #postfix[14:33:16] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[14:41:26] *** phnord has joined #postfix[14:42:53] *** tris has joined #postfix[14:44:27] *** mark-use_ has quit IRC[14:51:37] *** Predominant has quit IRC[14:54:43] *** tris has quit IRC[14:55:14] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[15:00:47] *** pitakill has quit IRC[15:04:46] *** sadmin1 has joined #postfix[15:07:32] <sadmin1> hi all[15:07:58] <sadmin1> i want to block some contents if those are in emails that those emails should blocked[15:08:06] <sadmin1> any idea how i do in postfix[15:08:57] <f3ew> header_checks, body_checks[15:11:50] <sadmin1> hey some one is emailing my management odd stuff[15:12:14] <sadmin1> hes emailing from different domain but in every email he say Regards[15:12:21] <sadmin1> and his name[15:12:26] *** eject_ck has left #postfix[15:12:36] <sadmin1> do i need that his name is blocked from every domain[15:12:43] <sadmin1> is this possible[15:12:57] *** eject_ck has joined #postfix[15:13:08] <eject_ck> what virtual_mailbox_extended = yes mean ?[15:13:52] <eject_ck> there is no this option there http://www.postfix.org/virtual.8.html[15:15:41] <rob0> /usr/sbin/postconf: warning: virtual_mailbox_extended: unknown parameter[15:15:56] <eject_ck> rob0 sure[15:16:39] *** tris has joined #postfix[15:20:31] *** cpm has joined #postfix[15:23:16] <sadmin1> hey[15:23:40] <sadmin1> f3ew if i increese +10 in spam to reject that email then[15:28:07] <sadmin1> how i tel spamassain to mark that name in email as spam n drop[15:28:27] *** mark-use__ is now known as mark-use[15:28:54] <sadmin1> f3ew u there[15:29:37] *** Predominant has joined #postfix[15:35:04] *** brancaleone has joined #postfix[15:44:25] *** sadmin1 has quit IRC[15:44:39] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[15:45:54] *** eject_ck has left #postfix[15:46:32] *** Predom[Work] has quit IRC[15:48:37] *** ashokcvs has quit IRC[15:53:08] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[15:54:36] *** af_ has joined #postfix[15:55:03] *** solar_ant has quit IRC[15:56:10] *** solar_ant has joined #postfix[15:56:15] <dragner> hi anyone knows how to do than postfix runs local transport whit some users?[15:56:58] *** zamolxes has joined #postfix[15:58:18] <zamolxes> hey. weirdo customer wants to autobcc both incoming and outgoing mail . now, for incoming mail it's simple, what about outgoing mail? thanks[15:58:21] <dragner> I wasted 2 days in configure an internal Lan inside vm[15:58:50] <sysmonk> zamolxes: always_bcc if the server is dedicated to that client[15:59:28] <dragner> ops[15:59:33] <dragner> this is not here sorry[16:00:07] <zamolxes> sysmonk: and if it's not? there are several domains on that machine[16:00:23] <sysmonk> zamolxes: then sender_bcc_maps and recipient_bcc_maps[16:00:36] <zamolxes> thank you[16:06:12] *** tm-30740-exa has joined #postfix[16:09:36] *** eject_ck has joined #postfix[16:09:45] <eject_ck> are virtual_create_maildirsize = yes obsolete ?[16:10:54] *** duki has quit IRC[16:15:56] *** zombor has joined #postfix[16:17:59] <zombor> can anyone help me out with a command to delete all messages in the queue to or from a specific email address? ive been having some difficulty with it[16:18:04] *** idle-boy has quit IRC[16:18:50] *** idle-boy has joined #Postfix[16:22:36] *** Lap_64 has quit IRC[16:23:39] *** SilenceGold has quit IRC[16:26:58] *** blake has quit IRC[16:30:12] *** af_ has quit IRC[16:38:36] *** sh0wt1me has quit IRC[16:41:49] *** ack_syn has quit IRC[16:42:02] *** aozturk has quit IRC[16:42:44] *** aozturk has joined #postfix[16:45:44] *** aozturk has quit IRC[16:46:29] *** aozturk has joined #postfix[16:49:05] *** aozturk has quit IRC[16:49:51] *** aozturk has joined #postfix[16:52:08] *** majmun has joined #postfix[16:52:41] <majmun> a server which should receive a mail rejects it and says "Helo command rejected: need fully-qualified hostname" ...what exactly should i change? the server's hostname..?[16:53:59] *** aozturk has quit IRC[16:54:47] *** aozturk has joined #postfix[16:57:36] *** capt-rogers has joined #postfix[16:58:48] <poisdeux> majmum: you need to sent the email from a server that has a fully-qualified domainname[16:59:18] <capt-rogers> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/virt-mail-howto.xml -<----In SSL Certs, anyone get # ./CA.pl -sign step to run correctly?[17:00:13] *** SilenceGold has joined #postfix[17:02:55] <majmun> poisdeux: that is so - but my server's hostname is just "server" instead of e.g. server.com[17:03:19] *** aozturk has quit IRC[17:03:33] <majmun> so is it enough to change the hostname? i'm asking because i can't test it right now[17:04:26] *** aozturk has joined #postfix[17:04:48] <poisdeux> majmum: in postfix configuration you can set the hostname: "myhostname = google.com"[17:05:30] <majmun> oh, yes, of course...thank you a lot[17:07:14] *** ^Willie^ has quit IRC[17:07:32] *** apeiron has quit IRC[17:07:56] *** zombor has left #postfix[17:08:30] *** anebi has left #postfix[17:09:12] *** prebur has quit IRC[17:10:58] *** eject_ck has quit IRC[17:16:58] *** Predom[Work] has joined #postfix[17:20:58] *** hparker has joined #postfix[17:24:04] *** githogori has joined #postfix[17:28:23] *** netcrash has joined #postfix[17:29:48] <netcrash> !sasl[17:29:48] <knoba> netcrash: "sasl" : short for "Simple Authentication and Security Layer". It is provided by the cyrus mail server to enable the "SMTP AUTH" feature. Learn more at: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/sasl/[17:35:42] *** echelog has joined #postfix[17:41:45] *** prebur has joined #postfix[17:47:32] <js_> is it possible to blacklist certain mailservers which are known to only send spam?[17:49:22] *** dragner has quit IRC[17:49:53] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[17:50:26] <mmlj4> sure[17:51:02] *** lunaphyte_ has quit IRC[17:51:17] *** lunaphyte_ has joined #postfix[17:51:27] <mmlj4> but you might look into (reliable) blacklists to do that stuff for you: http://www.spamhaus.org/[17:52:18] *** poisdeux has quit IRC[17:55:25] *** majmun has quit IRC[18:00:53] *** cutmasta has quit IRC[18:01:04] *** Ol_Blue has joined #postfix[18:02:35] *** GoGi has joined #postfix[18:04:14] *** {clam} has joined #postfix[18:04:32] *** roe has quit IRC[18:04:33] *** Ol_Blue_2 has joined #postfix[18:04:38] *** Ol_Blue has quit IRC[18:04:40] *** Ol_Blue_2 is now known as Ol_Blue[18:06:28] *** aatmaa has joined #postfix[18:06:53] *** roe has joined #postfix[18:06:54] <Ol_Blue> Hi, Im pretty new to using postfix - anyway I have it set up on my freeBSD box and its sending internal mails just fine however nothings getting out properly - is there anyone out there can lend a newbie a hand working out what Im doing wrong please?[18:07:29] <Ol_Blue> I cant see email going out in the logs ok, however the emails are not ending up getting delivered to the recipients outside of the server[18:07:40] <Ol_Blue> I set up the reverse DNS and it seems to resolve fine[18:09:07] <Ol_Blue> I mean I CAN see the mails going out[18:09:10] <Ol_Blue> sorry, typo[18:09:22] <hparker> If it shows a 250 saying it delivered to the other end, you need to ask the other end[18:09:38] <Ol_Blue> I would however this is to a lot of different emails, none of which are recieving[18:09:58] <hparker> So, not all to hotmail?[18:10:13] <Ol_Blue> nope[18:10:21] <Ol_Blue> heres an example if I may?[18:10:22] <Ol_Blue> Nov 15 01:43:52 3d-palace postfix/smtp[26648]: C25442976864: to=<username at sbcglobal dot net>, relay=sbcmx1.prodigy.net[207.115.21.20]:25, delay=1.6, delays=0.02/0.01/0.4/1.2, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 lAF6hmGd028614 Message accepted for delivery)[18:10:38] <hparker> then ask sbc[18:10:48] <hparker> They accepted it, you're done with it[18:10:52] <Ol_Blue> its the same header for yahoo, gmail, everyone[18:11:07] <Ol_Blue> I mean log[18:11:41] <hparker> Again, you'll have to ask them.. Did the recipient check their spam folders?[18:11:42] <Ol_Blue> Thats whats confusing us as surely everyone cant be autorejecting the mail soon as it arrives[18:11:45] <Ol_Blue> yep[18:12:06] <hparker> It's not rejecting it, otherwise you wouldn't have a 250, you'd have 4xx or 5xx[18:12:37] <Ol_Blue> it makes no sense - I have a 90,000 member site thats sending mails all the time and now no one is getting them[18:13:47] *** adam33 has quit IRC[18:14:46] *** duki has joined #postfix[18:15:40] *** roe has quit IRC[18:25:04] *** apeiron has joined #postfix[18:25:07] *** j_s has joined #postfix[18:26:31] *** wdp has joined #postfix[18:27:56] *** Ol_Blue has left #postfix[18:28:58] *** Ol_Blue has joined #postfix[18:29:21] <Ol_Blue> Could someone have a look at my debug log to see if they can spot any errors? Im completely out of ideas now[18:30:15] *** githogori has quit IRC[18:32:02] <Ol_Blue> I can post it on pastebin[18:36:31] *** mark-use has quit IRC[18:37:07] <Ol_Blue> Anyone?[18:58:03] <adaptr> Ol_Blue is that your relay, or theirs ?[18:58:28] *** Ol_Blue has quit IRC[18:58:36] *** Ol_Blue has joined #postfix[18:58:56] <Ol_Blue> adaptr - sorry about that, I was getting a coffee[18:58:59] * rob0 wonders if this pastebin URL is ever going to appear ...[18:59:07] <Ol_Blue> right - I will get hte postbin up[18:59:19] <adaptr> coffee++[18:59:27] * cpm pastes rob0[18:59:28] <Ol_Blue> my machine is broken :/ Its instant[18:59:49] <Ol_Blue> which parts of the log are useful? Or do yu want it all?[18:59:52] <Ol_Blue> Its quite large[19:00:07] <adaptr> tail -n 1000 mail.log >pastebin[19:00:28] <Ol_Blue> one moment please[19:04:24] <Ol_Blue> trying to get it from an ssh into pastebin[19:05:48] <Ol_Blue> http://pastebin.com/m17e889a0[19:06:56] *** harobed has quit IRC[19:07:07] *** sadmin has joined #postfix[19:08:41] <sadmin> hi all[19:08:51] <Ol_Blue> just getting the postconf[19:09:15] <sadmin> i want to make spam +10 for emails having name mohin raza[19:09:19] <sadmin> is this possible[19:09:22] <sadmin> with spam[19:09:27] <sadmin> where i do that[19:10:20] *** Ol_Blue has quit IRC[19:10:31] *** Ol_Blue has joined #postfix[19:10:39] <Ol_Blue> connection dropped :/[19:12:45] <adaptr> Ol_Blue your logs are *full* of crap that should have been filtered out waaay earlier[19:13:16] <adaptr> if you filter the log on messages that are actually sent, you will see that it's less than 5% of all traffic[19:13:24] <adaptr> 95% is pure crud[19:13:26] <Ol_Blue> Right[19:13:44] <adaptr> *and* you're sending DSNs for those messages[19:13:52] *** brancaleone has quit IRC[19:13:58] <rob0> status=bounced (unknown user: "squid")[19:14:13] <rob0> 2 of those on the 1st page[19:14:21] <jelly-home> yay backscatter![19:15:26] <Ol_Blue> You have to bear with me as Im new to postfix - we only started using it about 5 days ago[19:15:26] <sadmin> where i set required_hits =+10 so that that email have content mohin raza with droped my spamassasian[19:15:43] <adaptr> Ol_Blue for a high-traffic site, that's pretty much the wrong apporach[19:16:03] <Ol_Blue> What would you suggest if you dont mind me asking ?[19:16:35] <adaptr> set up a second MX for your domains that uses postfix, forward some stuff to it, and start learning postfix[19:16:36] <adaptr> seriously[19:16:40] <rob0> what did you do?[19:16:44] <adaptr> you won't master it in a week[19:16:48] <rob0> !basic[19:16:49] <knoba> rob0: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[19:17:06] <Ol_Blue> Cool - I'll read that[19:17:47] <Ol_Blue> Thanks :)[19:19:17] <rob0> did you try to follow some HOWTO?[19:20:20] *** ack_syn has joined #postfix[19:21:01] <Ol_Blue> it was a standard ports compile[19:23:31] <Ol_Blue> I have the main.cf if you want to see it[19:24:25] <adaptr> impossible[19:24:33] <adaptr> postfix will not run without you editing main.cf[19:24:39] <adaptr> I'll guarantee it[19:24:56] <Ol_Blue> followed a couple of howtos to configure it up - like you say it wouldnt work "out of the box"[19:25:41] <Ol_Blue> I can post the main.cf in here or in pm, got a lot of server path info and so on in there[19:26:47] <adaptr> no PM unless granted; general freenode rule[19:26:59] <Ol_Blue> thats why I asked / suggested[19:27:03] <adaptr> if you feel in danger, yes, you may PM it :)[19:27:07] <Ol_Blue> lol[19:27:10] <adaptr> but the danger may well be me ...[19:27:11] <Ol_Blue> its on the main pastebin list[19:27:11] <sadmin> guy any one help me out[19:27:19] <Ol_Blue> http://pastebin.com/d4414515f[19:28:56] <adaptr> that must be the most minimal config I have ever seen...[19:29:19] <adaptr> you should expand your recipient_restrictions ASAP; mine is fairly simple yet has over 25 lines in it[19:29:29] <Ol_Blue> ok[19:29:30] <adaptr> you are catching pretty much all the spam that is sent to you[19:29:36] <adaptr> if that's what you want, fine[19:29:45] *** Ol_Blue has quit IRC[19:29:56] *** Ol_Blue has joined #postfix[19:30:13] <Ol_Blue> back[19:30:14] <Ol_Blue> connection here is bad, sorry[19:34:11] <sadmin> helo[19:35:08] *** meandtheshell has quit IRC[19:37:00] *** Ol_Blue_2 has joined #postfix[19:37:00] *** Ol_Blue has quit IRC[19:38:02] *** Ol_Blue_2 is now known as Ol_Blue[19:51:44] <adaptr> 450 relaying denied[19:54:57] *** zamolxes has left #postfix[20:05:55] *** alexp789 has joined #postfix[20:06:36] *** githogori has joined #postfix[20:07:14] <alexp789> hi all, does anyone know how to configure it so that a postfix holds large emails till a certain time? ie release emails over 10mb after 18:00 etc......[20:07:46] <adaptr> that's not a function of an MTA[20:08:01] <rob0> And, most remote sites are not going to accept those anyway. :)[20:08:02] <adaptr> but you could probably hack up a transport for it[20:08:12] <adaptr> the routing and logic have to be external, however[20:08:21] <rob0> but how to direct to the transport, would be tricky.[20:08:26] <rob0> yes[20:08:46] <adaptr> and the end result would be a grotty hack that abuses postfix :)[20:09:15] <adaptr> why not limit the message size to 10MB and send a message pointing to your FTP site when people go over it ?[20:09:29] <adaptr> mailing multiple megabytes is.. very AOL[20:09:37] <cpm> grotty hack? or bletcherous kludge?[20:09:51] <adaptr> lecherous fudgicle[20:09:54] <alexp789> thanks, well at least i know to stop looking in that direction! Its very political in our organisation, if i had my way, they'd be limited well before the 10mb![20:10:27] <alexp789> but unfortunately i don't![20:10:35] <cpm> 10mgs? what's the big deal?[20:11:51] <alexp789> we're trying to manage congestion on our internet feed, thats the idea behind holding the mails. I personally hate the 10mb as the users never actually get round to deleting the emails![20:12:05] <alexp789> i'm sat on over 2tb's of 'archived' emails![20:12:23] <cpm> your 'internet feed' ?[20:12:31] <adaptr> heh[20:12:53] <alexp789> sorry i was answering the 10mb, whats the big deal question!.....[20:12:56] <cpm> alexp789, what country are you in?[20:13:04] <alexp789> uk, why?[20:13:05] *** alamar has quit IRC[20:14:22] *** amrit|zzz is now known as amrit|wrk[20:16:01] *** alexp789 has quit IRC[20:18:01] <jelly-home> because cpm will laser it from the orbit?[20:18:48] <Ol_Blue> can you try and get my office then - its about 29f here :/[20:19:58] *** roe has joined #postfix[20:20:24] <sadmin> guys[20:20:34] <sadmin> how i set spam required_hits[20:21:19] *** Ol_Blue_2 has joined #postfix[20:21:28] *** etaylor has joined #postfix[20:21:30] *** Ol_Blue has quit IRC[20:21:34] *** Ol_Blue_2 is now known as Ol_Blue[20:25:37] *** alamar has joined #postfix[20:26:07] *** gpled has joined #postfix[20:26:21] <sadmin> i want if any mail come with his line in subject mohin raza with make required_hit=10 and mark it spam nad drop immediately that email[20:26:22] <gpled> looking at maillog: Nov 15 08:37:45 mta-01 postfix/smtp[24926]: 2BFAC73C5E:[20:26:25] <sadmin> is this possible[20:26:31] <gpled> what is the 2BFAC73C5E called?[20:26:47] <gpled> postfix event id?[20:28:52] <adaptr> queue ID[20:30:58] <rob0> If you're asking about spamassassin hacking, perhaps #spamassassin would be a better place to do so.[20:35:59] *** aaronc_ is now known as aaronc[20:38:24] *** Edward123 has quit IRC[20:39:04] *** githogori has quit IRC[20:39:56] *** githogori has joined #postfix[20:42:03] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[20:50:20] *** pitakill has quit IRC[20:51:37] <gpled> adaptr: thanks[20:52:41] <gpled> custom sa rules can be tricky[20:52:57] <gpled> but i have some, if you need an easy rule[21:00:31] *** ikaro^ has joined #postfix[21:01:03] *** ikaro has quit IRC[21:01:10] *** ikaro^ is now known as ikaro[21:06:58] *** githogori has quit IRC[21:08:46] *** Bagualas has quit IRC[21:10:09] *** githogori has joined #postfix[21:14:58] *** sadmin has left #postfix[21:17:27] <gpled> what would you call 24926 ?[21:19:29] <Dominian> a number[21:19:33] *** duki has quit IRC[21:19:44] *** duki has joined #postfix[21:20:20] <rob0> definitely not prime, as it's even.[21:20:42] <rob0> 24926: 2 11 11 103[21:20:55] <rob0> 11 squared, in there![21:24:11] <gpled> lol[21:24:22] <gpled> looking at maillog: Nov 15 08:37:45 mta-01 postfix/smtp[24926]: 2BFAC73C5E:[21:24:38] <gpled> what is the name for the [24926] ?[21:24:56] <gpled> postfix id?[21:25:40] <rob0> PID, process ID[21:27:37] <rob0> 24943 is the next biggest prime[21:33:39] *** UQlev has quit IRC[21:35:57] <adaptr> rob0 has too much spare brain[21:36:20] <rob0> hmmm maybe that's the problem[21:39:43] *** duki has quit IRC[21:41:25] *** etaylor has quit IRC[21:41:43] *** duki has joined #postfix[21:41:46] *** etaylor has joined #postfix[21:48:56] *** Motoko-chan has joined #postfix[21:51:20] *** capt-rogers has quit IRC[21:57:48] *** flami has joined #postfix[22:01:16] *** cpm has quit IRC[22:01:30] *** Ol_Blue_2 has joined #postfix[22:10:31] *** ack_syn has quit IRC[22:20:02] *** Ol_Blue has quit IRC[22:25:23] *** capt-rogers has joined #postfix[22:29:27] *** flami has quit IRC[22:32:41] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[22:37:24] *** slimjimflim has joined #postfix[22:39:15] <slimjimflim> can anyone recommend some reading for installing postfix on ubuntu gutsy with apache, mysql, and php? 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drops[23:18:45] <rob0> Also beware, Ubuntists run into major problems because of the distro's packager.[23:18:50] <jelly-home> slimjimflim: sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix, perhaps. ask the ubuntu guys[23:19:01] <slimjimflim> hmm, k[23:19:25] <jelly-home> it doesn't sound much different to the "original" Debian packaging[23:19:39] <rob0> It's not, which is why they have so many problems.[23:20:11] <jelly-home> dunno, it asks you a few simple questions and sets up one of 3-4 reasonable default setups[23:20:45] <jelly-home> of course, a lot of people get stuck at the first question... "wtf is a mailname and what do I put in??"[23:20:49] <rob0> Default chroot is not reasonable. I also don't see the point in using procmail.[23:21:13] <slimjimflim> ok, that worked, but now i have a new screen asking for the 'root and postmaster mail recipient'[23:21:35] <slimjimflim> do i use root or an unprivilged user?[23:21:37] <rob0> That would be your username.[23:21:40] <slimjimflim> ok[23:21:48] *** _dan__t is now known as dan__t[23:22:13] <jelly-home> slimjimflim: it wants to set up an alias, a normal user who will receive all the mail for a few system email addresses[23:22:32] <slimjimflim> right[23:23:02] <jelly-home> ah, procmail is for some reason the default mda, yes.[23:23:36] *** aatmaa has quit IRC[23:23:50] <slimjimflim> should i force synchronous updates to speed it up since i'm on ext3?[23:24:13] <jelly-home> is this a mail server of just your local machine?[23:24:39] <slimjimflim> mail server[23:24:47] <jelly-home> if it's a mail server, you want to take every reasonable precaution not to lose mail[23:24:50] *** atilaX has joined #postfix[23:24:51] <slimjimflim> did you mean or?[23:24:56] <jelly-home> yes[23:25:29] <slimjimflim> If not forced, then there is a remote chance │[23:25:29] <slimjimflim> │ of losing some mail if the system crashes at an inopportune time, and you are not using a journaled filesystem (such │[23:25:29] <slimjimflim> │ as ext3).[23:25:51] *** githogori has quit IRC[23:25:57] <slimjimflim> if the system crashes AND youre NOT using a journaled filesystem[23:26:20] <slimjimflim> that sounds like an ext3 partition would be immune to that[23:26:46] <jelly-home> well, then you have to read about journaling options for ext3, see what can happen when eg. power fails and make a decision[23:27:25] <slimjimflim> ok, i guess i'll just leave it off for now[23:27:34] <gpled> ext3 should write down what its going to do before doing it[23:27:40] <jelly-home> off is less safe option[23:27:55] <gpled> so if you lost power, it would know where it was[23:28:02] <gpled> when power came back up[23:28:04] <jelly-home> I think ext3 by default only journals metadata.[23:28:26] *** githogori has joined #postfix[23:28:29] <jelly-home> so you get fs consistency, but contents of some files may be b0rken[23:29:42] <slimjimflim> well, i'm through it now[23:29:43] <slimjimflim> thanks[23:31:09] *** marc77 has joined #postfix[23:31:36] <atilaX> hi, anybody can help me??? i have a postfix server with a lot of virtual domains. I want to have a domain that cannot send and receive from all domains in the world except one[23:32:26] <atilaX> this "local" domain cannot send mail to any domain, only to the domain that i want[23:32:37] <atilaX> but receive from all domains[23:32:49] <atilaX> i use in main.cf this[23:33:07] <atilaX> smtpd_recipient_restrictions =[23:33:22] <atilaX> check_sender_access hash:/etc/postfix/restricted_senders[23:33:22] <atilaX> permit_sasl_authenticated,[23:33:22] <atilaX> permit_mynetworks,[23:33:22] <atilaX> reject_unauth_destination,[23:33:23] <atilaX> ...[23:33:35] <atilaX> smtpd_restriction_classes = local_only[23:33:36] <atilaX> local_only = check_recipient_access hash:/etc/postfix/local_domains, reject[23:34:32] <atilaX> but i don't know how i can reject the received mails[23:36:23] *** pickcoder has joined #postfix[23:36:48] *** monohate has joined #postfix[23:37:44] *** lunaphyte has quit IRC[23:47:44] <adaptr> aren't you doing just that ?[23:50:51] *** duki has quit IRC[23:51:12] *** githogori has quit IRC[23:59:05] *** unixtippse has quit IRC[23:59:39] *** Twinkletoes has quit IRC