November 12, 2007 
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November 12, 2007 [00:03:48] *** jsoftw has joined #postfix[00:04:00] <jsoftw> Ive got about 300 mails in the queue, and they arnt clearing... any ideas?[00:05:26] *** punkpussy has quit IRC[00:09:22] *** hans_ has joined #postfix[00:14:13] *** flami has joined #postfix[00:17:02] *** JohnFlux has joined #postfix[00:17:05] <JohnFlux> Hey all[00:18:19] *** duki has joined #postfix[00:18:27] <JohnFlux> I get the error: 550-Verification failed for <jt50 at master dot cluster> 550-Unrouteable address 550-jt50 at master dot cluster is not a valid email address sender verify failed for 550 jt50 at master dot cluster. (in reply to RCPT TO command))[00:19:07] <JohnFlux> but I want it to use a different domain name[00:19:11] <JohnFlux> when it talks to the email server[00:19:12] <jsoftw> :|[00:19:19] <JohnFlux> how do I do this ? :)[00:19:27] <jsoftw> Any ideas why my queue is not clearing? Ive got old stuff in there from an hour ago and its just sitting there.[00:19:30] <jsoftw> Nothing happening.[00:19:37] <jsoftw> Postfix does not even appear to be trying to deliver it.[00:19:54] <JohnFlux> jsoftw: checked /var/log/mail* ? :)[00:20:30] <jsoftw> yes. It seems to accept new mail ok.[00:20:39] <jsoftw> But I dont actually see it deliver the old mail.[00:22:39] *** higuita has quit IRC[00:23:25] <jsoftw> Arrrgh![00:23:30] <jsoftw> wtf is going on with this stupid thing[00:24:21] *** captiancrash has joined #postfix[00:25:03] *** loa_dude has joined #postfix[00:25:15] <jsoftw> Come on guys, any ideas?[00:28:41] *** djs_2_6 has joined #postfix[00:33:13] <kgoetz> !tell kgoetz about mynetworks[00:33:14] <knoba> kgoetz: Error: No factoid matches that key.[00:33:22] <kgoetz> !mynetworks[00:33:23] <knoba> kgoetz: "mynetworks" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The list of "trusted" SMTP clients that can relay email.[00:34:14] <kgoetz> mmm[00:35:57] <kgoetz> !smtp[00:35:58] <knoba> kgoetz: Error: "smtp" is not a valid command.[00:38:34] <jsoftw> Why is postfix not emptying its queue?[00:38:41] <jsoftw> Any ideas? Surely someone must know[00:39:02] <kgoetz> hang around. someone who knows is probably afk[00:43:06] *** duki has quit IRC[00:45:44] *** war has quit IRC[00:45:49] *** hemry has quit IRC[00:46:18] *** hemry has joined #postfix[00:47:44] *** unixcoder has quit IRC[00:47:49] *** flami has quit IRC[00:54:02] *** higuita has joined #postfix[01:05:15] *** Fullmoon has joined #postfix[01:20:02] *** _bugz_ has quit IRC[01:29:19] *** meandtheshell has quit IRC[01:35:14] *** Mattias has joined #postfix[01:44:20] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[01:58:11] *** Fullmoon has quit IRC[02:01:15] *** Mattias has left #postfix[02:02:25] *** matiu has joined #postfix[02:02:41] <matiu> What format is postfix storing the passwords in the database?[02:02:55] <matiu> I want to batch import a bunch of users[02:03:12] <matiu> do I md5 the password or crypt it or what?[02:03:16] <matiu> please[02:09:06] *** pirho has quit IRC[02:19:38] *** Zeit|awy is now known as LittleMacGirl[02:26:50] *** hparker has joined #postfix[02:29:56] *** voidy has joined #postfix[02:30:32] <voidy> hey guys, i've bene racking my brains trying to figure this problem out. it's strange. postfix is all configured nicely, mail incoing is delivereed, mail outgoing is delivered, and mail from web scripts is delivered too[02:30:51] <voidy> but with the webscripts, i can't deliver mail to a local mailbox[02:30:58] <voidy> i get this logfile entry whenever i try[02:31:16] <voidy> id=000C3733.472F1EE4.0000526E,from=<>,addr=<apache at server88-208-201-66 dot cherryjobs.co.uk>: maildir.open: ./Maildir: No such file or directory: No suchfile or directory[02:32:00] <voidy> before i go on about what i've been trying, has anyone seen this before?[02:32:19] <voidy> the transport file is just set up to maildrop for cherryjobs.co.uk[02:32:35] <voidy> that obviously works, as mail incoming is received with no problems etc[02:37:46] <voidy> is it looking for a mailbox @ apache at server88-208-201-66 dot cherryjobs.co.uk ?[02:39:17] <voidy> i even tried creating a mailbox with that name... totally stumped[02:49:59] <jsoftw> How do I get the queue to empty faster?[02:57:36] <voidy> use postsuper[02:58:18] *** hparker has quit IRC[02:58:56] <voidy> erm,.. or postqueue -f perhaps[02:59:04] <voidy> to flush it[02:59:21] <voidy> i use postsuper for deleting deferred mail and stuff actually.. not sure if you use it for flushiung[02:59:24] *** havvg has quit IRC[02:59:32] <voidy> i'm not a postfix guru tbh :)[02:59:53] *** voidy has quit IRC[03:05:34] *** Tachy has joined #postfix[03:06:32] *** loa_dude has quit IRC[03:17:03] *** Tachy_ has quit IRC[03:19:56] *** k31th has quit IRC[03:27:23] <jsoftw> Cripes.[03:40:22] *** dembug is now known as Azio[03:51:00] *** alamar has quit IRC[03:51:01] *** twuHB has quit IRC[03:51:01] *** mXr has quit IRC[03:51:01] *** bisoc has quit IRC[03:51:02] *** poptix has quit IRC[03:51:02] *** Zerberus has quit IRC[03:51:02] *** xored has quit IRC[03:51:02] *** steevel has quit 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IRC[09:59:32] *** flami has quit IRC[10:00:40] *** black_johhny has joined #postfix[10:02:14] *** war has joined #postfix[10:14:52] *** mark-use has joined #postfix[10:17:10] *** ^Willie^Laptop has joined #postfix[10:23:37] *** phnord has joined #postfix[10:24:00] *** ^Willie^Laptop has quit IRC[10:25:21] *** ^Willie^Laptop has joined #postfix[10:27:59] *** jMCg_ is now known as jMCg[10:35:20] *** KhensU has quit IRC[10:35:46] *** teddy has quit IRC[10:36:17] *** brancaleone has joined #postfix[10:43:47] *** adam33 has joined #postfix[10:43:51] *** marc7 has quit IRC[10:44:31] <mark-use> What is the normal configuration for recieving mails? What is standart, should this come or not?:[10:44:34] <mark-use> Nov 9 02:43:15 natrium postfix/smtpd[61950]: warning: 201.208.94.95: hostname 201-208-94-95.genericrev.cantv.net verification failed: hostname nor servname provided, or not known[10:45:07] <f3ew> mark-use, that's a remote end DNS problem[10:45:12] <sysmonk> mark-use: yes, it's normal. this is dns problem[10:45:19] <sysmonk> not on your side, but on the clients side[10:46:37] <mark-use> I beleave it's cause this in main.cf: smtpd_sender_restrictions reject_unknown_sender_domain[10:46:49] <mark-use> The question is if I have to remove this[10:47:15] <f3ew> mark-use no[10:48:34] <mark-use> this is also ok, I guess: Nov 10 14:41:46 natrium postfix/smtpd[43830]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from unknown[91.146.32.238]: 554 5.7.1 Service unavailable; Client host [91.146.32.238] blocked using sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org; http://www.spamhaus.org/query/bl?ip=91.146.32.238; from= to= proto=SMTP helo=<88.198.116.108>[10:49:44] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[10:51:29] <f3ew> yes[10:52:03] <mark-use> sysmonk, ok, lets change the question: "Is it fatal to remove the ' reject_unknown_sender_domain'-rule"?[10:53:31] <mark-use> just to have an argument if someone is angry because my server doesn't let his mail through[10:53:46] <mark-use> s/dosn't/wount/[11:01:04] *** havvg has joined #postfix[11:01:07] *** hal1on has joined #postfix[11:02:47] *** githogori has quit IRC[11:05:09] <milligan> I need to set up a virtual alias, that forwards emails to a lot of contacts .. (all at domain dot tld) (Yes, I'm aware of the implications=). How can this be done? I'm thinking procmail, but unsure how to set it up.[11:05:24] *** rokra has joined #postfix[11:05:35] <f3ew> generate a virtual_alias_maps entry instead?[11:06:27] *** Jax has joined #postfix[11:07:10] <milligan> at the momenyt, I have a mysql_virtual_alias_maps.cf file that checks my db for virtual maps. Can I append values to that file ?[11:07:28] <Jax> hm, one of my clients would like to use their own SMTP server instead of mine. i have a check in my postfix though that checks if the incoming mail has a sender of a domain that is hosted by my machine, then it it spam because it's originating from another server (and isn't SASL authed).. so i drop it. what should i do?[11:09:17] <Jax> the problem is, that every postfix by default accepts mail for which it is responsible for even if the accounts don't exist[11:09:20] <mark-use> again, sry: "Is it fatal to remove the ' reject_unknown_sender_domain'-rule"? <-- I need an argument if some costumers are angry because mails were filtered[11:10:13] <dragonheart> so is that the cause? do they really want emails who's sender doesn't exist[11:10:17] <dragonheart> not fatal though[11:11:02] <mark-use> One costumer would be really angry if I would filter to extreme[11:11:37] <mark-use> so it's a normal behavor, other mailservers like 1und1, hotmail, yahoo, etc. also use?[11:11:48] <dragonheart> could just to a recipient map accept for that customer[11:11:55] <f3ew> milligan, you could use a SP?[11:12:12] <f3ew> mark-use yes[11:12:29] <f3ew> Jax uh?[11:12:33] <Jax> yeah[11:12:34] <Jax> lol[11:12:37] <Jax> let me explain again.[11:12:53] <mark-use> ok, thats all I needed to know, so I just can say f*ck off, tell the senders to get a correct email-service[11:13:18] <Jax> say my mail server is responsible for my.tld now some random spammer sends a mail from non-existant at my dot tld - postfix will accept it?[11:14:09] <mark-use> Jax, you want: smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_sasl_authenticated[11:14:29] <dragonheart> a sysadmin role is to look after systems. if they look after customers then systems fail and customer get unhappy. apply the principles and customers will generally be happy. listen to the customer and they won't be[11:14:42] <mark-use> sry, sender restriction[11:15:03] <milligan> f3ew, SP ?[11:15:14] <Jax> my current smtpd_sender_restrictions = reject_non_fqdn_sender, reject_unknown_sender_domain[11:15:36] <f3ew> stored proc[11:15:59] <milligan> how would that work ?[11:16:18] *** unixcoder has joined #postfix[11:16:19] <Jax> but mark-use / f3ew i can't put permit_sasl_authenticated in there. if the client uses their ISP's mail server as the SMTP, and send to an account on my server (another domain), then my psotfix will drop it, no?[11:17:18] <mark-use> Jax, I /msg you my config, then you can see. Mine is accepting mails from eg. yahoo to a virtual maildir...[11:17:57] <Jax> k, i'm getting a Sender address rejected: Access denied;[11:18:17] <Jax> from the ISP mail server trying to send the mail to me (another domain on my machien)[11:18:23] <mark-use> or moment, lets pastebin it and discuss with the others[11:18:48] <f3ew> Jax, then you need to figure out your configuration requirements[11:19:00] <f3ew> milligan, your SP can return whatever you like[11:19:15] <f3ew> Including your "expands to all" alias[11:19:20] <mark-use> here: http://bsdpaste.bsdgroup.de/643[11:19:21] <Jax> i'm using this in my smtpd_recipient_restrictions check_sender_access proxy:mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_check_access2.cf[11:19:37] <Jax> that basically does: SELECT CASE WHEN _latin1'%d' IN(SELECT domains.domain FROM domains) THEN "REJECT" END[11:19:47] <f3ew> Jax, perhaps you need to stop rejecting mail sent from elsewhere by users with accounts on your domain?[11:19:48] <Jax> that happens AFTER permit_sasl_authenticated of course[11:20:05] <Jax> f3ew yeah i USED to have that.. but then noticed people were sending spam through my domain to my local accounts[11:20:20] <Jax> i.e then ANYBODY can just send spam to my accounts on my server responsible for the domains[11:20:31] <f3ew> Jax, then look for an alternate filtering solution?[11:20:42] <Jax> i.e say i host: my.tld and my2.tld now any spammer can send a mail from gah at my dot tld to real-account at my2 dot tld[11:21:52] <Jax> and it'll just go through because my server knows he's responsible for both domains[11:22:13] *** hemry has quit IRC[11:22:40] *** hemry has joined #postfix[11:27:54] *** adam33 has quit IRC[11:29:35] <Jax> well?[11:38:09] * Jax frowns[11:38:19] * Jax is interested in how you deal with this[11:40:30] <f3ew> "ip"[11:47:09] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[11:47:10] <Jax> f3ew :([11:48:23] <Jax> but seriously... if you host a couple domains and one of your clients decides to send mail via their ISP instead... (so they don't have to use SMTP Auth)..[11:48:34] <Jax> how can you know if it's spam or not, coming in?[11:48:55] <Jax> you even send a mail from your local machine via telnet like that to my mail server[11:49:15] <Jax> as long as the address is on my box, it'll send to one of my local accoutns[11:49:20] <Jax> if the RCPT TO is on my box as well[11:49:25] <Jax> (otherwise he'll get a relay denied)[11:50:03] <Jax> the problem is just from: hosted address to hosted address[11:50:45] <Jax> to be honest, i don't think there's anything you can do about it...[11:50:52] <Jax> but i want your 2 cents f3ew ;)[11:51:03] *** ramoni has joined #postfix[11:51:35] <f3ew> Jax, the questions is, "do I care?"[11:52:16] *** rokra has quit IRC[11:53:07] <idioterna> Jax: you can't[11:53:13] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[11:53:14] <idioterna> Jax: re: how can you know if it's spam or not, coming in?[11:54:23] <Jax> it's just ridiculous to allow people to send mail without username and password anyway these days[11:55:57] <idioterna> yes[11:56:10] <idioterna> but just today i've had a problem with that[11:56:24] <idioterna> i won't let my users authenticate without TLS[11:56:27] <idioterna> or SSL[11:57:04] <idioterna> and a silly hp scanner/printer/copier appliance can't use ssl[11:57:13] <idioterna> they support smtp auth, but no encryption[12:02:13] <dragonheart> idioterna: so allow it on a different port[12:03:11] <jduggan> or add the scanner to mynetworks[12:04:32] <Jax> the problem is... that somebody was actually sending spam from the ISP domain to my clients hosted on the box..[12:04:37] <Jax> like from whoever at myISP dot com[12:04:41] <Jax> how nice is that???[12:05:02] <Jax> and you can do that from any machine if you know which domains are hsoted on the box[12:05:32] <idioterna> yes, i did[12:05:38] <idioterna> add it to mynetworks[12:06:09] <idioterna> but the point is, you still stumble upon stuff that won't work in an elegant setup[12:06:23] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[12:08:49] <Jax> yeah just tested via telnet.. of course it works[12:08:52] <Jax> how stupid GAHHH[12:09:31] <rob0> Allowing mynetworks to relay is stupid? Huh?[12:10:04] <Jax> Yeah i'd say so.[12:10:13] *** hemry has quit IRC[12:10:29] <rob0> Well then perhaps you should complain to Wietse. :)[12:10:30] <Jax> actually, my ISP only allows mails to be sent via SMTP Authentication[12:10:39] *** hemry has joined #postfix[12:10:42] <rob0> I allow mynetworks to relay.[12:11:08] <Jax> yeah but if you're an ISP and have like 1 million users on your network and probly 10% of them infected by some spamming program...[12:11:09] <Jax> that's A BAD IDEA[12:11:41] <rob0> If you're an ISP with 1 million users YOU HAVE REVENUE. USE IT.[12:12:02] <Jax> how will money help you in this case?[12:12:11] <Bejgli> :)[12:12:19] <rob0> Well, you're right, you have to GAFC first.[12:12:29] <Bejgli> gafc?[12:12:47] <Bejgli> go and find cats?[12:13:25] <Jax> well..[12:13:38] <Jax> i think one should enforce that mail only ought to be sent and retrieved via the DNS MX[12:14:25] <rob0> Georgia Association of Fire Chiefs ... or, Get a fine clue. :) You have to know what you're up against.[12:14:52] <Jax> rob0 i was speaking of my ISP, it's not me running their mail servers ;)[12:14:57] <Bejgli> i'll rather find a cat[12:15:00] <Jax> i just have a mailserver with like 100 mailboxes.. that's all[12:15:01] <rob0> I would use virus scanning on submission mail in such a situation.[12:15:43] <rob0> Besides, AUTH provides about 0.001% protection against viruses relaying.[12:15:56] <Jax> i just made my own rule saying "if the mail is coming from something not SMTP Authed, and is for one of my domains - kill it"[12:16:08] <Jax> sorry.. and if FROM one of my domains[12:16:11] <rob0> Remember, the virus has rooted the Windows box. It can figure out how to AUTH.[12:16:47] <Jax> yeah i know.[12:17:00] <Jax> well.. i guess i'll just live with people bad mouthing about my ISP through my own domain[12:17:01] <Jax> NICE[12:17:08] <rob0> With only 100 users, MAKE A POLICY. Tell the users, "you MUST relay your @this.domain address through this mail server."[12:17:22] <Jax> yeah[12:17:30] <Jax> that's what they should do[12:17:51] <rob0> "If you try to relay through your ISP, your mail is likely to be rejected, wherever you send it, especially if you send it here."[12:19:02] <Jax> you think that policy makes sense?[12:21:13] <rob0> It breaks traditional uses of SMTP, but not a problem if users are aware of it. Sure, they'll forget, but when they come to complain, you have something to point at.[12:21:49] <Jax> i need a good reason though[12:25:46] <rob0> spam?[12:29:01] *** rokra has joined #postfix[12:37:54] *** solar_ant has joined #postfix[12:37:57] <solar_ant> hi all[12:38:06] <solar_ant> I am trying to use gmail as a relay server and I get the following error[12:38:08] <solar_ant> http://rafb.net/p/V8ec8Q39.html[12:38:10] <solar_ant> any lead ?[12:38:19] <solar_ant> do I need to create a certificate or something for tls[12:39:38] <dragonheart> they have a certificate signed by someone that isn't in your trusted certs[12:39:47] <dragonheart> its onely a warning - i'd just ignore it[12:40:31] <dragonheart> ah auth required-[12:41:01] *** die_z has quit IRC[12:41:23] <solar_ant> dragonheart: I have set up auth details in /etc/postfix/sasl_passwd[12:41:38] <solar_ant> in the format smtoservername username:password[12:41:43] <solar_ant> and done the hashing[12:42:18] *** die_z has joined #postfix[12:42:55] <dragonheart> postconf | fgrep smtp_sasl[12:43:15] <dragonheart> is it enabled corectly -caus its not being used according to yoru logs[12:45:35] *** phnord has quit IRC[12:49:12] <solar_ant> dragonheart: http://rafb.net/p/rAx1rs56.html[12:49:15] *** vali has joined #postfix[12:49:51] *** unixcoder has quit IRC[12:52:51] <dragonheart> solar_ant: can you specify jus t the gmail domain? is the some smtp ssl auth option interfereing?[12:53:19] <dragonheart> btw i haven't done this before so i might just leave you too it. i'm not thinking that well either[12:54:27] <solar_ant> some stmp ssl auth option ?[12:55:10] <solar_ant> are you talking about smtpd_recipient_restrictions[12:55:40] <solar_ant> dragonheart: I understand , any help is valuable though :)[12:56:22] <dragonheart> was more thinking some smtp_ssl option that says verify certificates[12:57:15] <Jax> damn spam attacks...[12:57:21] <Jax> they just try random addresses[13:10:30] *** aatmaa has joined #postfix[13:11:24] *** ncritu has joined #postfix[13:12:45] <dragonheart> hunt them down and kill them all[13:15:27] *** solar__ has joined #postfix[13:20:10] *** solar_ant has quit IRC[13:20:14] *** solar__ is now known as solar_ant[13:29:36] *** Ottsen2802 has joined #postfix[13:29:43] <Ottsen2802> hello all[13:30:07] <Ottsen2802> ive got a problem with my postfix relay mail system[13:30:33] <Ottsen2802> in mail logfile there is an entry where mails will send to localhost.de[13:30:59] <Ottsen2802> but i want to send the mails to an local exchange server[13:33:10] <Ottsen2802> should i post my configs or something else ?[13:33:20] *** Twinkletoes has quit IRC[13:33:50] <f3ew> !standard[13:33:51] <knoba> f3ew: "standard" : Your question is probably answered in http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html[13:33:54] <f3ew> Ottsen2802 see that[13:35:16] <Ottsen2802> thx[13:35:46] *** meandtheshell has joined #postfix[13:36:44] *** aatmaa has quit IRC[13:38:10] *** captiancrash has quit IRC[13:38:51] *** lennard has quit IRC[13:40:51] *** lennard has joined #postfix[13:41:46] *** Tinozaure is now known as _Tino[13:41:49] *** phnord has joined #postfix[13:42:55] *** Twinkletoes has joined #postfix[13:48:03] *** pitakill has quit IRC[13:57:37] *** Edward123 has joined #postfix[13:57:38] *** aatmaa has joined #postfix[14:05:08] *** sysadmin-lb has joined #postfix[14:06:48] <sysadmin-lb> Hi All I have setup my linux box to be a smtp gateway it filters spam and sends valid emails to my exchange server. I have only allowed emails to my domain to be forwarded through the postfix deamon so that wont be a target for Spammers however, this stopping me from being able to send emails generated on the linux box itself to the internet I.e. Gmail or otherwise..any hints please ?[14:09:17] *** af_ has joined #postfix[14:12:21] *** GNU\colossus has joined #postfix[14:12:25] <GNU\colossus> hello all :)[14:12:47] *** LaZZaR has joined #postfix[14:12:50] <LaZZaR> hello[14:13:27] <LaZZaR> since the last power cycle our mailserver delays connections, i telnet there, and about 30seconds later i get the ESMTP banner and may enter data.[14:13:32] <LaZZaR> any hints what to repair ?[14:14:09] <GNU\colossus> I'm planning on an email setup for local users (authenticated via pam/shadow) that will make use of address rewriting for mapping UNIX usernames to mail-addresses. I wish to extend the setup to do imap later on, possibly by using Cyrus. can you point me to pieces of documentation or howtos I should read to do that?[14:14:27] <GNU\colossus> LaZZaR: do you use hostnames or IP addresses when connecting?[14:15:02] <LaZZaR> dns is fast, even the bigbrother monitoring deamon who connects any 5 minutes has the issue so it dioesnt seem to be dns[14:15:59] *** wdp has joined #postfix[14:17:33] *** hemry has quit IRC[14:30:55] <sysmonk> LaZZaR: what do the logs say ?[14:33:12] <LaZZaR> they dont log anything until the banner arrives so the delay is not logged any way[14:33:47] <GNU\colossus> other services on said machine work fine?[14:34:20] <LaZZaR> there is only imap and the webmail but yes[14:34:28] <LaZZaR> Nov 12 14:06:50 gemini-vii postfix/smtpd[13329]: some disconnect[14:34:49] <LaZZaR> my connect (after waiting 30 secs on an open tcp port) Nov 12 14:06:51 gemini-vii postfix/smtpd[13329]: connect from[14:38:27] <LaZZaR> hm okay seems to me i was on the limit for smtpd procs (default 50)[14:39:47] <LaZZaR> there are many many mails stuck on the content filter[14:51:38] *** rokra has quit IRC[14:54:04] *** vali has quit IRC[14:54:22] *** vali has joined #postfix[15:04:03] *** hparker has joined #postfix[15:12:21] *** wsxws has joined #postfix[15:12:24] <wsxws> hi there[15:12:48] <R1ck> hi here[15:13:08] <wsxws> i installed postgrey on a redhat rel4 distri, but unkie it worked on debian i cant figure out how to set up the default starting modes. could someone pls tell me where to set them ?[15:13:17] <wsxws> unkie = unlike[15:13:53] *** ashokcvs has joined #postfix[15:14:00] <wsxws> (in debian i simply put them into /etc/default/postgrey but i dot know where toput it on redhat)[15:14:02] *** ldrada has joined #postfix[15:14:22] <ldrada> Anyone else having trouble resolving postfix.org?[15:14:41] <wsxws> Dns unable to resolve postfix.org[15:15:11] <wsxws> Dns resolved www.postfix.org to 131.211.84.186[15:15:20] <wsxws> :)[15:15:46] <ldrada> How did you resolve it?[15:16:01] <R1ck> www.postfix.org has address 131.211.84.186[15:16:02] <R1ck> www.postfix.org has address 168.100.10.85[15:16:29] <ldrada> Using nslookup, i get "unable to resolve postfix.org"[15:16:35] *** ramoni has quit IRC[15:16:44] <wsxws> you can resolve it here using /dns nameoriphere[15:16:47] <ldrada> To be more specific:[15:16:48] <ldrada> Non-authoritative answer:[15:16:49] <ldrada> *** Can't find postfix.org: No answer[15:16:57] <jduggan> there's no record for postfix.org[15:17:00] <jduggan> hasnt been for a long time[15:17:03] <wsxws> and without www it did not work here neither[15:17:04] <jduggan> use www.postfix.org[15:17:38] <ldrada> jduggan: Why no dns for postfix.org? That makes no sense.[15:18:04] <jduggan> ldrada: ask wietse, im sure he has his reasons[15:20:06] <rob0> There *is* DNS for postfix.org. There is simply not an "A" record at that RR name.[15:20:22] <rob0> There is SOA, NS, MX.[15:20:41] *** JohnFlux has left #postfix[15:21:39] *** ashokcvs has quit IRC[15:22:59] <[diecast]> always bothers me when sites don't do that. who wants to type 'www.domain.com' <- old[15:23:54] <rob0> Many (most?) browsers will try www. if plain example.com fails.[15:25:23] <ldrada> odd thing here, I can resolve any domain fine both from home and from work, but www.postfix.org only resolves from home and gets a dns timeout from work.[15:25:44] <[diecast]> empty cache maybe[15:26:18] <[diecast]> default install of ie wants to search msn for postfix.org instead of adding 'www.'[15:26:24] <rob0> I will say, FWIW, I agree, I prefer having www.$DOMAIN and $DOMAIN resolve to the same host.[15:27:02] <ldrada> rob0: accessing websites via $DOMAIN instead of www.$DOMAIN is cleaner anyway, imho.[15:27:45] <[diecast]> admitedly i enjoy it simply for the lazy factor of not typing more[15:28:08] <rob0> Well, it's HTTP-centric, which isn't necessarily right. There are lots of other network services besides HTTP.[15:28:40] <rob0> Wietse on the Internet surely predates the WWW.[15:29:39] <f3ew> heh[15:36:14] <Edward123> heh[15:36:15] <Edward123> nerds![15:36:30] *** die_z|away has joined #postfix[15:36:50] *** die_z has quit IRC[15:38:00] *** die_z|away is now known as die_z[15:40:22] *** prebur has joined #postfix[15:46:32] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[15:50:47] *** jake__ has quit IRC[15:50:48] *** unixcoder has joined #postfix[15:53:45] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[16:02:38] *** prebur has quit IRC[16:02:50] <sysadmin-lb> bye Muza fukas[16:06:25] *** captiancrash has joined #postfix[16:09:14] *** ovd has quit IRC[16:11:24] *** ovd has joined #postfix[16:11:48] *** ncritu has quit IRC[16:11:51] *** solar_ant has quit IRC[16:12:21] *** Kurtism has joined #postfix[16:12:47] *** Kurtism is now known as Kurt2[16:13:39] *** prebur has joined #postfix[16:17:33] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[16:18:38] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[16:36:33] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[16:42:02] *** wsxws has quit IRC[16:42:11] *** Ottsen2802 has quit IRC[16:42:43] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[16:44:50] *** ming_zym has left #postfix[16:52:42] *** ramoni has joined #postfix[16:52:42] *** j_s has joined #postfix[16:54:19] *** die_z has quit IRC[16:54:26] *** af_ has quit IRC[16:54:55] *** die_z has joined #postfix[17:02:47] *** AL13N_work has joined #postfix[17:04:47] <AL13N_work> i have a mutually recursive group in ldap, and postmap tells me: "Recursion limit exceeded for special attribute" . the thing is, that i actually want this, but maybe that it would silently ignore the warning and proceed with the mail and all current found emails. i was looking if there was a main.cf paramater that would accomplish this, but alas, i didn't find it[17:04:47] *** atula has joined #postfix[17:05:21] *** aozturk has joined #postfix[17:05:28] <AL13N_work> any idea as how to solve this besides not allowing mutually recursive groups?[17:07:59] *** jel has joined #postfix[17:08:08] <jel> hi all :)[17:09:28] <jel> I had a number of bounce mails that were sent to an invalid address. How do I go about finding the original messages these relate to, from the logs? Presumably I can trace them back through the message IDs?[17:10:24] <jel> Basically I need to generate a list of original messages that weren't sent, and for which no bounce notifications were sent.[17:15:49] *** duki has joined #postfix[17:16:25] *** kimmey has joined #postfix[17:16:26] *** ^Willie^Laptop has quit IRC[17:16:45] *** unixcoder has quit IRC[17:17:31] <kimmey> i got this problem that i end up at /setup.php no matter what I do.. the file is deleted. have any been into it?[17:19:54] *** sysadmin-lb has quit IRC[17:20:45] <jel> kimmey: wrong channel[17:21:57] <kimmey> oh, haha.. didnt notice :)[17:21:58] <kimmey> thanks[17:29:55] *** kreg_lt has joined #postfix[17:33:38] *** AgraWork has joined #PostFix[17:35:02] *** sh0wt1me has quit IRC[17:35:17] *** jel has quit IRC[17:42:31] *** atula has quit IRC[17:42:51] *** flami has joined #postfix[17:50:11] *** mark-use has quit IRC[17:56:50] *** aatmaa has quit IRC[17:58:33] *** phnord has quit IRC[17:59:27] *** kreg_lt has quit IRC[18:11:52] *** Jax has quit IRC[18:12:39] *** _MarkH_ has joined #postfix[18:20:47] <_MarkH_> Hi, I'm trying to configure Postscript to send mail to an SMTP server, on port 587, using SSL.[18:20:48] <_MarkH_> So far, I have configured main.cf as follows[18:20:50] <_MarkH_> smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes[18:20:51] <_MarkH_> smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd[18:20:53] <_MarkH_> smtp_sasl_security_options =[18:20:54] <_MarkH_> smtp_tls_policy_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/tls_policy[18:20:56] <_MarkH_> transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/transport[18:20:58] <_MarkH_> And postfix correctly picks up the transport map[18:20:59] <_MarkH_> However, the server on the remote end seems to be waiting for some input and ultimately I see[18:21:00] <_MarkH_> connect to secure.server.net[nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn]: read timeout (port 587)[18:21:02] <_MarkH_> sasl_passwd contains :-[18:21:04] <_MarkH_> secure.server.net user:pass[18:21:05] <_MarkH_> and tls_policy contains :-[18:21:06] <_MarkH_> secure.server.net must[18:21:08] <_MarkH_> If I configure Thunderbird to talk to the server then I see a similar timeout if I select TLS for the connection but uif I select SSL then all is well. I thought TLS==SSL...[18:21:09] <_MarkH_> Any help would be welcome[18:21:11] <_MarkH_> Mark[18:21:14] <_MarkH_> smtp_tls_loglevel = 4[18:21:15] <_MarkH_>[18:24:51] *** mike_jh has quit IRC[18:26:21] *** ramoni has quit IRC[18:26:46] <GNU\colossus> I'm planning on an email setup for local users (authenticated via pam/shadow) that will make use of address rewriting for mapping UNIX usernames to mail-addresses. I wish to extend the setup to do imap later on, possibly by using Cyrus. can you point me to pieces of documentation or howtos I should read to do that?[18:30:06] <AL13N_work> i have a mutually recursive group in ldap, and postmap tells me: "Recursion limit exceeded for special attribute" . the thing is, that i actually want this, but maybe that it would silently ignore the warning and proceed with the mail and all current found emails. i was looking if there was a main.cf paramater that would accomplish this, but alas, i didn't find it[18:36:46] *** sepski has joined #postfix[18:46:51] *** jellis has joined #postfix[18:52:14] *** xtech_ has joined #postfix[18:52:19] *** felix_da_catz has joined #postfix[18:53:38] <xtech_> can i ask something about amavis here?[18:54:09] *** die_z has quit IRC[18:54:35] *** die_z has joined #postfix[18:55:39] <flami> just shoot[18:56:39] <flami> xtech_, go ahead :P[19:03:48] *** unixcoder has joined #postfix[19:04:40] *** eject_ck has joined #postfix[19:04:54] <eject_ck> How enable SPF checks in postfix 2.4[19:07:48] *** githogori has joined #postfix[19:08:52] *** fzzzt has joined #postfix[19:10:52] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[19:11:59] *** harobed has quit IRC[19:13:19] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[19:13:31] *** aozturk has quit IRC[19:20:12] *** Zeit|awy has quit IRC[19:21:33] *** wdp has quit IRC[19:26:13] *** hemry has joined #postfix[19:26:50] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[19:29:01] *** brancaleone has quit IRC[19:33:58] *** Knoedel_ has joined #postfix[19:34:18] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[19:34:23] <Knoedel_> hi all[19:34:30] <eject_ck> рщ[19:34:39] <eject_ck> Knoedel_: hi[19:37:37] *** die_z has quit IRC[19:38:56] <Knoedel_> i've currently 1 novell server as mail reciever and sender 1 mail relay in internal DMZ and 1 root server in internet[19:39:49] <Knoedel_> the both last server have a connection over openvpn[19:40:08] *** tshine has joined #postfix[19:40:56] <Knoedel_> i'm planning to do this: 1 novell -> 2x mail relays internal -> bridging both as br0 -> openvpn -> 2x external server[19:41:01] <Knoedel_> is this possible[19:41:20] <Knoedel_> with DNS MX entrys for the both external server[19:41:50] <UQlev> Knoedel_: why so complicated?[19:42:38] <Knoedel_> cause i want to have failover on both sites (internal and external)[19:42:40] <UQlev> Knoedel_: how many accounts doyou handle on all servers?[19:42:58] <Knoedel_> about 300 on the novell server[19:43:53] <UQlev> 5 servers for 300 accounts is awesome. Your messages must have been very valuable[19:44:16] <Knoedel_> the both internal are in vmware so doenst matter[19:45:04] <Knoedel_> how else can you make a failover if the mail relay internal and/or external are fail ?[19:45:09] <UQlev> 1 server in DMZ with imap-ssl and pop3-ssl will cover all your needs and override your security[19:46:00] <Knoedel_> but i want to gt the mails first on the external server before i get it on the DMZ[19:46:16] <UQlev> Knoedel_: failover for server itself or for internet connection?[19:46:38] <Knoedel_> for server itself[19:46:49] <UQlev> makes no sense[19:47:24] <Knoedel_> currently we have 3 server[19:47:54] <Knoedel_> novell -> internal mail relay -> external mail relay i need to get a failover for internal mail and external mail[19:47:56] <UQlev> Knoedel_: you may have 15 servers it will not became more reduntant[19:48:33] <UQlev> 3 servers in a chain it is more vulnerable than 1[19:49:32] <Knoedel_> it is ! but is is possible to do this ?: 1 novell -> 2x mail relays internal -> bridging both as br0 -> openvpn -> 2x external server ?[19:50:12] <Knoedel_> i dont know another channel where i can ask someone :([19:50:44] <UQlev> Knoedel_: well, how does your novel server will select relay?[19:51:57] <Knoedel_> i'm not allowed to touch the novell server, so the novell server sending currently all mails to internal DMZ relay[19:52:17] <Knoedel_> to 10.0.0.1[19:52:22] <UQlev> to which one of 2?[19:52:23] <xtech_> flami: thanks, i was afk[19:52:56] <Knoedel_> are you speking from currently or planning network ?[19:53:02] <UQlev> Knoedel_: how will it secide which one of 2 to select?[19:53:03] <xtech_> i want to use bogofilter (torought a shell script i wrote) with amavis, so i can handle one single quarantine[19:54:25] <xtech_> but i dont fully understand what amavis is expecting from the external command[19:54:39] <Knoedel_> UQlev you right then i need also a second bridge[19:55:07] <Knoedel_> ah lol no[19:55:14] <Knoedel_> over the br0 device UQlev[19:55:43] <UQlev> Knoedel_: yousaid youwant to have 2 internal relays relaying to 2 external ones[19:56:03] <flami> xtech_, wouldnt spamassassin do the same?[19:56:06] <UQlev> Knoedel_: connected over bridges[19:56:24] <Knoedel_> yes[19:56:29] *** eject_ck has left #postfix[19:56:35] <xtech_> flami: yes, i use both and bogofilter seems to filter some spams sa doesn't[19:56:59] <UQlev> Knoedel_: how your novel will select which of 2 internal relays to select?[19:57:19] <flami> I read the 1st few lines of it and it says it uses bayesian ... thats included in SA too , you gotta have 200 spam and ham so SA uses it[19:58:00] <Knoedel_> i thought also over the same bridge[19:58:29] <xtech_> ok, i will talk to the person who installed the current setup, to ask him why he didn't use sa's bayesian[19:58:47] <xtech_> it *might* be a reason for that[19:59:11] <flami> you need to train the baywsian DB with at least 200 spams and 200 hams[19:59:44] <xtech_> all this mess it's beacuse i discovered a nice web app called mailzu, usefull for the users to manage they own quarantine[19:59:53] <xtech_> did you hear of mailzu?[19:59:55] <flami> and install razor/pyzor/dcc , and enable all those "non-local" tests. For me spam normally gets a score of 15 +[20:00:15] <UQlev> Knoedel_: it is absolutely unreasonable use of hardware. even if youmanage those 5 to work togetner it will be very difficult to maintain duly working[20:01:16] <adaptr> "I'm not allowed to touch the Novell server" - heh. heh. heh.[20:01:21] <flami> well I have amavis settings in a mysql DB so it can have different settings per domain. most people just use the normal ***SPAM*** tag and then quarantine the spam themselves[20:02:00] <flami> gets the resposibility of me when someone gets a real mail and gets tagged as spam[20:02:27] <Knoedel_> UQlev i thought if i put 2 servers off f.g. 1 external and 1 internal server off link off, the brige will hold and both servers can still communicte over the bridge[20:02:35] <Knoedel_> sorry for my english[20:02:53] <xtech_> flami: ok, i will talk to the one who installed the server and study the way to use sa'bayesian, thanks for your help[20:03:25] <UQlev> Knoedel_: nothing wrong with your English, but your structure is awfull[20:03:43] <xtech_> gotta go now, i'l almost sure be back tomorrow[20:03:52] <xtech_> bytes![20:03:52] <flami> you need to use sa-learn to fill up the DB mannually , the normal way its if a mail has 14+ score its learned as spam if it has 0.1- its learned as ham[20:04:11] <xtech_> flami: can you re-use the bogofilter db?[20:04:22] <flami> hum dunno[20:05:20] <flami> i ahve my bayesian DB in mysql now , from the berkley DB to mysql worked pretty easy , but from a different tool , i dont know[20:05:26] <UQlev> Knoedel_: what a partucular this novel server? Domino?[20:05:42] <xtech_> ok, see you tomorrow[20:05:45] *** xtech_ has quit IRC[20:05:46] <flami> bye[20:06:05] *** flami has quit IRC[20:11:28] *** gpled has joined #postfix[20:11:52] <gpled> can a MessageID have a comma in it?[20:14:39] <Knoedel_> no documentation ^^[20:15:12] *** githogori has quit IRC[20:16:01] <adaptr> gpled that depends on what it is[20:17:32] *** githogori has joined #postfix[20:17:35] *** amrit|zzz is now known as amrit|wrk[20:17:41] *** theblackbox has quit IRC[20:18:33] <gpled> it is the Message-ID: from the maillog[20:19:42] <Knoedel_> UQlev how you imagin about a failovr concept in my situation[20:22:10] <UQlev> Knoedel_: I would assemble 1 server with good power supply and cooled hdd and install on it FreeBSD with postfix with users validation. And that's all "failover"[20:22:46] <[diecast]> by good power supplyi hope you mean two. =)[20:23:25] <[diecast]> don't forget raid and battery backup[20:23:33] <UQlev> [diecast]: I mean tested PSU and UPS with shutdown option[20:24:39] *** sepski has quit IRC[20:24:52] *** theblackbox has joined #postfix[20:25:31] *** shal3r has joined #postfix[20:26:42] <shal3r> is it possible to see postfix statistics like received and sent mails per day, per hour, per second?[20:27:57] <adaptr> there are tools, yes[20:28:05] <adaptr> mailgraph is good[20:28:10] <adaptr> munin is good[20:28:32] <shal3r> thank you![20:29:04] <adaptr> np[20:29:07] *** Edward123 has quit IRC[20:29:49] <shal3r> emerging mailgraph... ;)[20:31:02] <[diecast]> yay gentoo =)[20:32:20] *** havvg has quit IRC[20:33:15] <shal3r> [diecast], gentoo forever and everywhere ;)[20:35:07] <adaptr> not on my box![20:35:10] <adaptr> not anymore[20:35:28] *** fzzzt has quit IRC[20:35:33] <[diecast]> we're a dying breed =/[20:35:41] <adaptr> really ?[20:35:49] <adaptr> I thought the community was still going strong[20:36:02] <shal3r> [diecast], i helped to grow gentoo community by 3 persons for last week ;)[20:36:12] <shal3r> some friends[20:36:38] <[diecast]> i still think it is strong, i didnt mean that[20:37:00] <[diecast]> ust being dwarfed by the prettier ones like ubuntu[20:37:27] *** mofino has quit IRC[20:38:16] <[diecast]> and the packages page is still down.. which is annoying.. but i use http://pebuilds.peschke.us[20:38:17] <adaptr> being prettier is hardly the major reason for that :)[20:38:34] <shal3r> [diecast], gentoo isn`t distro for everyone and ubuntu doesn`t take gentoo users to self. In my point of view, ubuntu brings more people to linux world on some of them changes distro gentoo lately[20:39:08] <[diecast]> true, and gentoo is the only one that suits my taste for linux[20:41:00] *** growltiger has joined #postfix[20:41:00] <shal3r> [diecast], the same for me ;). Gentoo is my only OS on all workstations and servers for last five years :)[20:41:17] <sysmonk> freebsd is my os of choice! :P[20:41:22] <Knoedel_> form what do i need Bogofilter if SpamAssassin has it included ?[20:41:49] <sysmonk> adaptr: what are you using then ? :)[20:42:21] <adaptr> I use Windows XP, Ubuntu X64 and Ubuntu LTS as server[20:42:40] <sysmonk> heh, any bsd users out here? :P[20:42:48] <sysmonk> or am i the only one ? :)[20:43:01] <adaptr> I am intending to set up FreeBSD 64 on my sparc thingy when I have the time[20:43:12] <adaptr> it can't run any worse than Ubuntu :)[20:43:13] <sysmonk> um, what? :) freebsd 64? :)[20:43:35] <adaptr> um yes, freebsd 64 bit SPARC[20:43:38] <[diecast]> i have been a bsd user =)[20:43:41] <sysmonk> ah[20:43:54] <[diecast]> but that was at another company, they still use bsd =)[20:44:17] <[diecast]> but currently: gentoo, redhat, sco, aix[20:44:18] <adaptr> "still" ? we have BSD servers with uptimes in excess of 3 years, mmmkay ?[20:44:21] * sysmonk uses bsd for a long time, and i;m happy with it[20:44:29] <sysmonk> adaptr: same here[20:44:31] <adaptr> I'd like to see Getoobuntu do half as well[20:44:34] <[diecast]> oh and as400[20:44:47] <adaptr> you run SCO ? die, cast - die![20:44:52] <adaptr> blasphemer![20:44:53] <[diecast]> but the as400 is for stuff that nothing else can do[20:44:54] <sysmonk> ;))))[20:45:05] <sysmonk> we still have one freebsd 3.5 up and runing :PPP[20:45:12] <[diecast]> hah, proprietary apps =)[20:45:38] <[diecast]> until someone says - hey you, recode this. it will remain on sco =)[20:45:51] <adaptr> then I'm saying it now[20:46:14] <[diecast]> yes well, i meant my boss of course[20:53:08] *** Zeit|awy has joined #postfix[20:53:13] <shal3r> adaptr, i need cgi for mailgraph, right?[21:02:58] *** Azio is now known as dembug[21:11:19] <adaptr> yers[21:12:25] *** wdp has joined #postfix[21:24:56] *** mohshami has joined #postfix[21:25:35] <mohshami> hey guys, can I run a filter on an email if a header doesn't exist? I've been googling all day but with no luck[21:29:23] *** gpled has left #postfix[21:31:04] *** djs_2_6 has joined #postfix[21:37:29] *** mohshami has quit IRC[21:37:38] *** wdp has quit IRC[21:39:56] <Knoedel_> UQlev are u around ?[21:41:11] *** klauwhamer has quit IRC[21:41:24] *** klauwhamer has joined #postfix[21:46:09] *** KhensU has joined #postfix[21:52:06] *** hemry has quit IRC[21:52:29] *** hemry has joined #postfix[21:52:43] <UQlev> Knoedel_: yes[21:57:45] *** amaia has joined #postfix[21:58:23] <Knoedel_> want can i do to solve my problem ?[21:58:40] <amaia> hi, is it possible block the emails for a given "To:" address with postfix? i am beeing attacked by some guys who are trying to use my smtp to send email to a @nate.com address[21:59:36] <UQlev> Knoedel_: I have already told[22:07:41] *** githogori has quit IRC[22:14:39] *** UQlev has quit IRC[22:14:49] *** githogori has joined #postfix[22:21:13] *** amaia has quit IRC[22:21:54] *** maj has joined #postfix[22:22:49] *** sweed has joined #postfix[22:24:01] <maj> i have "smtpd_banner = $hostname ESMTP $mail_name (CHI-STL-INBOUND)" in my main.cf, but the banner reply comes back as <br /> 220 ESMTP Postfix (CHI-STL-INBOUND) <br />[22:24:20] <maj> what could be the problem?[22:25:23] <adaptr> $Hostname and $mailname contain bad characters[22:25:28] <adaptr> remove them[22:25:57] <adaptr> or, rather - *where* do you see this ? with telnet ?[22:26:04] <adaptr> forget the previous - use telnet[22:26:12] <maj> telnet and dnstools test[22:26:15] *** unixcoder has quit IRC[22:26:26] <maj> yea... if i use telnet it still doesn't have hostname[22:26:41] *** brancaleone has joined #postfix[22:28:42] <maj> where does it take $hostname variable out of? I don't have $hostname defined in main.cf at all[22:31:46] *** captiancrash has quit IRC[22:32:29] <maj> any suggestions?[22:34:46] *** darkphader has joined #postfix[22:35:54] <maj> ok[22:36:06] <maj> fixed it, put $myhostname instead of $hostname[22:38:13] *** tehmaze has joined #postfix[22:38:16] <tehmaze> morning[22:38:27] <tehmaze> how can I discard double/triple bounces with postfix?[22:40:25] <adaptr> !soft_bounce[22:40:26] <knoba> adaptr: "soft_bounce" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Safety net to keep mail queued that would otherwise be returned to the sender. This parameter disables locally-generated bounces, and prevents the Postfix SMTP server from rejecting mail permanently, by changing 5xx reply codes into 4xx. However, soft_bounce is no cure for address rewriting mistakes or mail routing mistakes.[22:40:38] *** thelostbutler has joined #postfix[22:40:44] <adaptr> erm, or, almost :)[22:40:50] <tehmaze> !2bounce_notice_recipient[22:40:51] <knoba> tehmaze: "2bounce_notice_recipient" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The recipient of undeliverable mail delivery error reports. This feature is enabled with the notify_classes parameter.[22:40:56] <adaptr> yeah[22:40:57] <tehmaze> hm[22:41:12] <tehmaze> just make it a toss | /dev/null address?[22:41:36] <thelostbutler> hello folks, i have a system that is sitting behind a router without a fqdn name, i need to all the checks to be disabled for that particular ip address, how would i do that, thanks for the help[22:41:47] *** Kurt2 has quit IRC[22:43:55] <adaptr> add the IP to mynetworks[22:44:05] <adaptr> simple[22:46:18] <thelostbutler> adaptr: would that be the case if my mail server is hosted else where (outside the office network) and the machine is in the office network[22:47:07] <adaptr> I don't know, how have you set it up now[22:48:50] *** HnL has joined #postfix[22:48:59] <HnL> http://www.gizmohunt.com/[22:48:59] <HnL> http://www.gizmohunt.com/[22:49:00] <HnL> http://www.gizmohunt.com/[22:49:01] *** HnL has left #postfix[22:49:20] *** Twinkletoes has quit IRC[22:49:38] <thelostbutler> adaptr: the mail server is hosted on a vps server at the moment. the client machine is behind the a dls modem/router. the mail server rejects the mail from the client machine since the helo=<foobar> since Helo command rejected: need fully-qualified[22:50:44] <tehmaze> thelostbutler, define myorigin on the sending postfix[22:50:45] <tehmaze> !myorigin[22:50:46] <knoba> tehmaze: "myorigin" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The default domain name that locally-posted mail appears to come from, and that locally posted mail is delivered to. The default $myhostname, which is fine for small sites. If you run a domain with multiple machines, you should (1) change this to $mydomain and (2) set up a domain-wide alias database that aliases each user to user at that dot users.mailhost.[22:52:53] <thelostbutler> tehmaze: okay will do that thanks[22:57:29] *** pirho has joined #postfix[23:00:06] *** jellis has quit IRC[23:00:34] *** hemry has quit IRC[23:01:02] *** hemry has joined #postfix[23:04:18] *** meandtheshell has quit IRC[23:06:00] *** shal3r has quit IRC[23:08:42] *** robair has joined #postfix[23:11:23] *** marc7 has joined #postfix[23:18:27] <thelostbutler> tehmaze: thanks for that it, worked[23:18:44] <tehmaze> glad to hear[23:20:12] *** _Tino is now known as Tinozaure[23:27:01] <thelostbutler> tehmaze: for some reason spamhaus considers my dsl router ip to be bad host and causes it to be reject, what is the option i should be looking to suspend such rules only for this particular ip address?[23:27:34] <adaptr> add your IP to mynetworks[23:27:41] <adaptr> how many times do you think I need to repeat that ?[23:28:20] <thelostbutler> adaptr: sorry, i didn't realize that, i am having a real bad day[23:28:27] <adaptr> sure[23:29:07] <adaptr> add the IP to mynetworks and make sure it is accepted before spamhaus is checked (as it always should be)[23:31:17] <thelostbutler> thanks[23:32:55] *** marc77 has joined #postfix[23:33:19] *** Knoedel_ has quit IRC[23:36:40] <tehmaze> thelostbutler, spamhaus probably has your IP listed in its DUL/DUN lists, no big thing[23:36:51] <tehmaze> thelostbutler, some ISP's decide to block all domestic mail servers[23:38:02] <adaptr> spamhaus includes most dynamic IP ranges[23:38:54] *** marc7 has quit IRC[23:49:19] <hans_> hi everyone. was wondering if anyone knew of a more effective method of interfacing with postfix to get queue information than using postqueue (postqueue only returns message id, to and from)... i am looking for a way for my mailing scripts to be able to do things such as tracks messages from the moment they are sent from our web scripts[23:51:35] <hans_> it would be nice to do things, such as being able to tracks specific messages and put them on hold, for example, if a more important set of messages need to be processed[23:54:22] *** felix_da_catz has quit IRC[23:55:25] *** j_s has quit IRC[23:55:29] *** duki has quit IRC[23:56:20] *** MysticOne-XMPP has joined #postfix[23:56:46] <MysticOne-XMPP> hi all ... hopefully a quick, easy question. I'm trying to decide if an error is being generated by my server, or a remote server.[23:57:22] <hans_> go for it, whats the error?[23:57:45] <hans_> (usually /var/log/mail.info will be fairly clear about it tho)[23:57:47] <MysticOne-XMPP> is it okay if I paste the line?[23:57:52] <MysticOne-XMPP> about... two lines I think[23:57:59] <hans_> sure[23:58:00] <MysticOne-XMPP> the names have been changed to protect the guilty :)[23:58:04] *** thelostbutler has quit IRC[23:58:06] <MysticOne-XMPP> Nov 12 13:34:25 puddlejumper postfix/smtpd[90256]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from unknown[24.96.xxx.xxx]: 554 5.7.1 <info at foo dot com>: Relay access denied; from=<booga at bar dot net> to=<info at foo dot com.com> proto=ESMTP helo=<PCName>[23:58:24] *** maj has quit IRC[23:58:29] <hans_> which is your server?[23:58:37] <MysticOne-XMPP> the bar.net ones[23:58:47] <hans_> the error is from the other server[23:59:19] <hans_> postfix is trying to relay the email via their server, and it is configured not to allow that[23:59:35] <MysticOne-XMPP> but, it shouldn't be relaying, should it?[23:59:45] <MysticOne-XMPP> or... hmmmm[23:59:50] *** higuita has quit IRC[23:59:51] *** steevel_ has joined #postfix