November 10, 2007 
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November 10, 2007 [00:00:10] <}btorch{> imap(david): mkdir(/var/spool/mail/davidkellymassage.com/david/.INBOX) failed: Permission denied[00:11:20] *** karsten has joined #postfix[00:12:20] *** pitakill has quit IRC[00:21:19] *** havvg has quit IRC[00:31:33] *** x-ip has joined #postfix[00:31:36] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[00:32:19] *** pitakill has quit IRC[00:32:52] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[00:33:13] *** darkphader has quit IRC[00:33:14] *** Golumn has quit IRC[00:34:23] <x-ip> i want postfix to check the rcpt to in an openldap and if the rcpt to doesnt exist at ldap, reject the email. My question is: I have a lot of accounts and domains, it will work ? the time that the smtpd process will be waiting for the query to finish will afect the performance from the smtpd ... someone with experience in this topic ?[00:35:47] *** hemry has quit IRC[00:40:28] <sirlog_postfix> Has somebody an idea to send the mail to the relay host via SSLver Port 465? Where can I configure these parameters?[00:41:36] <x-ip> relayhost:domain.tld:465[00:41:43] <x-ip> >.<'[00:41:52] <x-ip> relayhost = domain.tld:465[00:43:13] *** hemry has joined #postfix[00:47:14] <}btorch{> anyone here uses dovecot with postfix ?[00:48:23] *** bronb has joined #postfix[00:49:51] <thelostbutler> yeah i use dovecot with postfix[00:53:06] <dec_> me too.[00:53:10] *** dec_ is now known as dec[00:54:06] *** Spec is now known as x-spec-texas[00:55:55] *** TomatoMonster_79 has joined #postfix[00:55:57] *** TomatoMonster_79 has left #postfix[00:56:11] *** AIChains has joined #postfix[00:56:36] <AIChains> when using postfix as a secondary mx for a domain, what is the syntax for the transport map file so that it does an MX lookup in order to find the next hop ?[00:56:48] <AIChains> instead of hardcoding a next hop[00:57:08] *** imcsk8 has quit IRC[00:58:16] <}btorch{> I'm trying to get dovecot to work with postfix when using virtual mailbox maps ... the problem that I got right now is that I can't seem to login using the complete email address[01:04:58] *** AIChains has left #postfix[01:05:12] *** atula has quit IRC[01:05:35] *** x-ip has left #postfix[01:07:32] <thelostbutler> btorch: are you following a specific guide or is it your setup , if guide url ?[01:13:33] *** pitakill has quit IRC[01:17:04] *** }btorch{ has quit IRC[01:28:31] *** Ryushin has quit IRC[01:33:40] <bronb> i'm having hard time understanding why a header i got can't pass hotmail.com, anybody mind to spare a minute to look at a header and tell me why its not passing hotmail.com ?[01:36:22] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[01:42:37] *** ack_syn has joined #postfix[01:48:49] *** war has joined #postfix[01:52:22] *** thunder_storm has quit IRC[01:57:02] *** hemry has quit IRC[01:57:25] *** hemry has joined #postfix[01:58:30] *** unixtippse has quit IRC[01:58:32] *** stevo_inco has joined #postfix[01:58:44] *** unixtippse has joined #postfix[02:01:52] *** jpalmer has quit IRC[02:02:48] *** pirho has quit IRC[02:07:25] *** jpalmer has joined #postfix[02:08:50] *** meandtheshell has joined #postfix[02:09:09] *** etaylor has quit IRC[02:12:03] *** R1ck has quit IRC[02:12:06] *** R1ck has joined #postfix[02:14:25] *** stevo_inc has quit IRC[02:14:30] *** githogori has quit IRC[02:20:41] *** T0M4T0E_4_Y0U21 has joined #postfix[02:20:48] <T0M4T0E_4_Y0U21> WRAARRRR!!! I'm the Tomato Monstahhhhh! WRAARRRR!!![02:20:49] *** T0M4T0E_4_Y0U21 has quit IRC[02:21:03] <thumbs> ...[02:27:41] <hparker> Figures, a newyorker[02:28:17] <hparker> Well, maybe zew jersey, but not much difference imo[02:28:51] *** wdp has quit IRC[02:39:29] *** war has quit IRC[02:42:50] *** solar_ant has quit IRC[02:46:23] *** djs_2_6 has joined #postfix[02:57:30] *** hemry has quit IRC[02:57:55] *** hemry has joined #postfix[03:04:57] *** Tachy has joined #postfix[03:10:06] *** thelostbutler has quit IRC[03:16:03] *** bronb has quit IRC[03:19:26] *** rcsu_ has joined #postfix[03:19:55] *** darkphader has joined #postfix[03:20:14] *** Tachy_ has quit IRC[03:20:52] * darkphader is away: Leaving[03:21:53] <thumbs> darkphader: drop it[03:23:36] <thumbs> idtios[03:23:37] *** meandtheshell has quit IRC[03:25:03] *** meandtheshell has joined #postfix[03:31:11] *** theblackbox has quit IRC[03:33:08] *** meandtheshell has quit IRC[03:36:00] *** rcsu has quit IRC[03:43:20] *** squisher has joined #postfix[03:46:11] <squisher> Hi! Can anyone help me diagnose why email sent from localhost (so I assume through /usr/sbin/sendmail) just vanishes without a trace? Nothing in mail.err, mail.info, syslog, messages...[03:54:16] *** eidolon has joined #postfix[03:54:34] <eidolon> hi folks, i have a real problem right now i have a postfix install that is stuck - everything in the queue is 'queue active', but no delivery is actually happening.[03:54:59] <eidolon> we ran out of space on /var, that stopped a lot.... so we restarted postfix, clamav, and amavis, but still nothing is being delivered.[03:57:22] *** hemry has quit IRC[03:57:56] *** hemry has joined #postfix[03:58:06] *** squisher has quit IRC[04:01:03] * hparker thinks eidolon might want to peek at his logs a bit[04:01:09] <dragonheart> eidolon: postqueue -f[04:02:20] *** amrit|wrk is now known as amrit|bbl[04:02:48] <eidolon> i am -all over- the logs :)[04:02:53] <eidolon> we just move a metric buttload of mail.[04:03:35] <eidolon> Nov 9 22:03:02 boomer amavis[31786]: (31786-01) (!!) ClamAV-clamd av-scanner FAILED: Too many retries to talk to /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl (Can't connect to UNIX socket /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl: No such file or directory) at (eval 44) line 268.[04:03:40] * eidolon worries.[04:04:19] <eidolon> mailq|wc says '4995'[04:04:45] <eidolon> postqueue -f shows a lot of 'queue active' but no 'delivered'[04:05:47] <hparker> clamav isn't running[04:06:11] <hparker> Or it and amavis don't agree on where to communicate[04:06:13] <eidolon> clamscan is[04:06:17] <eidolon> freshclam is[04:06:32] <hparker> Well, amavis can't talk to clamd[04:06:44] <eidolon> we just rebooted this machine 2 days ago, no problems. :-/ i don't think we touched anything[04:07:06] <eidolon> no datestamp cahnges in /etc/amavis/conf.d[04:07:06] <hparker> I'm just telling you what the error is saying[04:07:12] <eidolon> i hear ya, i know. i'm edgy :)[04:07:24] <hparker> And 5k emails isn't many[04:07:35] <eidolon> we trashed /var/ - it filled up.[04:07:39] <eidolon> i wonder if we damagedsomething[04:07:51] <eidolon> i could turn off clamav for a bit i guess[04:07:58] <hparker> Uhm... does /var/run/clamav exist?[04:08:07] <eidolon> yessir[04:08:12] <hparker> Proper ownership and perms?[04:08:20] <eidolon> clamav:clamav[04:08:27] <eidolon> rwx-rx-rx[04:08:28] <hparker> Does clamd.ctl exist in it?[04:08:31] <eidolon> nossir.[04:08:38] <eidolon> freshclam.pid does[04:08:40] <hparker> mine runs as amavis:amavis[04:08:52] <eidolon> this is... debian etch[04:08:57] <hparker> but, may be different[04:09:25] <hparker> no clue, never seen a debian.. Or an etch... Have had an itch before though, does that count?[04:09:58] <eidolon> no :)[04:10:04] <hparker> You need to figure out why clamd.ctl isn't there and you'll fix your problem[04:11:31] <eidolon> weird, locate database says clamd.ctl is in... /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl[04:11:36] <eidolon> but it ain't there.[04:11:41] <eidolon> so something in clam startup isn't going right[04:11:50] <hparker> It was there when updatedb ran is all[04:12:32] <eidolon> yeahy, means it -was- tehre.[04:13:01] <eidolon> clamd.conf says the dright dir.[04:13:46] <dragonheart> permissions problems on clamd socket?[04:14:06] <dragonheart> opps i was scrolled up[04:14:17] <hparker> heh[04:14:24] *** keanne has joined #postfix[04:14:43] <eidolon> dragonheart: the socket isn't being created.[04:15:17] <dragonheart> time for strace on clamav then[04:16:10] <eidolon> bleah[04:18:02] <eidolon> ahh. we have a lot of stuck clamscan scanners[04:18:08] <eidolon> they may be caugsin grief.[04:18:10] * eidolon kills a lot[04:18:22] <keanne> clamscan?[04:18:51] <keanne> why not use clamdscan[04:19:01] *** sirlog_postfix has quit IRC[04:20:29] <Dominian> why not just use clamavmodule[04:37:47] <eidolon> Dominian: this is what etch sets up. this has been working perfectly for months.[04:38:19] * Dominian doesn' tuse etch[04:38:28] <Dominian> which is why I wasn't aware of the configuration.[04:43:43] *** darkphader has quit IRC[04:44:44] *** Motoko-chan has joined #postfix[04:44:52] *** solar_ant has joined #postfix[04:47:02] *** pitakill has quit IRC[04:47:40] <eidolon> so i commented out the av-scanners in amavis' conf file. but things are still stuck[04:47:45] <eidolon> even with a postfix flush[04:51:44] <eidolon> apparently, that was the WRONG thing to do to amavis[04:51:55] <eidolon> i just got a ton of mail shunted into a VIRUS SCANNERS FAILED! PRESERVING EVIDENCE IN...[04:54:00] <Motoko-chan> There is a simple toggle setting to disable the AV code.[04:54:07] <eidolon> yes? where?[04:54:55] <Motoko-chan> Talking amavisd-new, right?[04:54:58] <eidolon> yes[04:55:29] <Motoko-chan> # @bypass_virus_checks_maps = (1); # controls running of anti-virus code[04:55:30] <Motoko-chan> # @bypass_spam_checks_maps = (1); # controls running of anti-spam code[04:55:30] <Motoko-chan> # $bypass_decode_parts = 1; # controls running of decoders&dearchivers[04:56:08] <eidolon> hrm.[04:56:12] *** hemry has quit IRC[04:56:21] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[04:56:46] <eidolon> putting '1' means bypass?[04:56:55] *** hemry has joined #postfix[04:57:34] <Motoko-chan> Yes.[04:57:42] <Motoko-chan> If you have the line, just remove the comment[04:57:49] <eidolon> i have...[04:57:54] <Motoko-chan> Then uncomment it[04:57:58] <eidolon> @bypass_virus_checks_maps = ([04:57:58] <eidolon> \%bypass_virus_checks, \@bypass_virus_checks_acl, \$bypass_virus_checks_re);[04:58:17] <Motoko-chan> What version of amavisd-new are you running?[04:58:31] <eidolon> ii amavisd-new 2.4.2-6.1 Interface between MTA and virus scanner/cont[04:59:01] <Motoko-chan> Not too old.[04:59:13] <Motoko-chan> If you make it 1 it should bypass all[04:59:29] <Motoko-chan> (Better than Debian's three-year-old version)[04:59:52] <eidolon> this is debian etch, actually.[05:00:07] <Motoko-chan> I don't keep track of the cool name.[05:00:18] <Motoko-chan> I'm guessing unstable?[05:00:25] <eidolon> no, this is 'testing'[05:00:27] <eidolon> i think[05:01:53] <Motoko-chan> Stable, Unstable, Testing[05:01:55] <Motoko-chan> I think in that order.[05:02:01] <eidolon> no[05:02:06] <eidolon> stable, testing, unstable[05:02:10] <eidolon> usntable is always 'sid'[05:02:13] <Motoko-chan> This is why I don't run Debian. Too much confusion.[05:02:25] <eidolon> regardless. i'll try the '1'[05:02:38] <eidolon> i'm -very- concerned why my clamav suddenly stopped working on the disk fillup though[05:02:43] <eidolon> someting 'broke' i geuss.[05:02:46] <eidolon> but i can't figure out what.[05:03:21] <Motoko-chan> I once had amavisd and sqlgrey break on me.[05:03:27] <Motoko-chan> Turns out my maillog was over 2gb[05:03:28] <eidolon> i'm running sqlgrey.[05:04:24] <Motoko-chan> And that caused syslogd to exit.[05:04:34] <Motoko-chan> It wasn't a fun night. I rotate logs nightly now.[05:04:35] <eidolon> yeah, that's not the problem.[05:05:08] *** lunaphyte has quit IRC[05:05:32] <Motoko-chan> ClamAV needs somewhere to keep temp files, especially when scanning archives.[05:05:38] <Motoko-chan> Might be why it stopped on fillup.[05:06:14] <eidolon> wtf!![05:06:17] <eidolon> i have a clamav.ctf now[05:09:34] <Motoko-chan> nfi[05:10:00] <eidolon> friend of mine and i are working on it. it was there, with clamd running[05:10:17] <eidolon> now it's gone again when we did /etc/init.d/freshclam-daemon restart[05:10:32] *** hparker has quit IRC[05:17:59] <eidolon> so..freshclam is giving an error[05:18:06] <eidolon> ERROR: Can't download daily.cvd from db.local.clamav.net[05:18:40] <eidolon> maybe i can do something like purge my entire clam directory? i really think the database for clam is trashed.[05:21:47] <eidolon> ah, i got freshclam to pull a new db[05:21:56] <eidolon> but still can't get clamd to start with a ctl file[05:22:25] <eidolon> in fact[05:22:32] <eidolon> it won't create a clamd.pid either[05:22:41] <eidolon> it's realyl behaving like it's ignoring the clamd.conf file[05:24:10] <Motoko-chan> Try removing and then installing?[05:24:17] <Motoko-chan> Clear the conf files[05:25:23] <eidolon> i removed the /var/lib/clamd dir and reran freshclam - it pulled down a new one.[05:25:48] <eidolon> i tried clamd -c /etc/clamd/clamd.conf[05:25:53] <eidolon> still nothing unusual[05:27:54] <eidolon> okay... it appears to be honoring the clamd.conf[05:27:59] <eidolon> i tried turning syslog on and off, and it worked.[05:30:22] <Motoko-chan> Odd[05:33:34] *** _pixmap has quit IRC[05:34:04] <eidolon> ahh.[05:34:14] <eidolon> okay, i got clamd to start in the foreground, so i could strace it.[05:34:24] <eidolon> it's... very very slowly... reading definitions. i can't tell if it's stuck in a loop though[05:34:54] *** _pixmap has joined #postfix[05:35:07] *** phnord has quit IRC[05:35:20] *** phnord has joined #postfix[05:36:55] <eidolon> ah.. HAH![05:36:58] <eidolon> it -was- processing![05:37:00] <eidolon> we now have a ctl file[05:38:00] <thumbs> congratulations?[05:38:43] <eidolon> i'm not sure yet :)[05:38:53] <eidolon> we're goign to restart the entire stack, but wait while clamd does its work.[05:49:25] <eidolon> ITS WORKING!!![05:53:58] <eidolon> is there a simple way to find the size of the mail queue? i do mailq|wc, but that just counts lines, and isn't realy alid.[05:54:00] <eidolon> valid.[05:55:37] *** hemry has quit IRC[05:56:27] *** hemry has joined #postfix[06:03:05] *** Tinozaure is now known as _Tino[06:03:11] *** _Tino is now known as Tinozaure[06:10:25] *** Supaplex is now known as \Supaplex[06:14:53] *** \Supaplex is now known as Supaplex[06:17:18] *** F|oFF has quit IRC[06:18:42] *** F|oFF has joined #postfix[06:21:31] *** Supaplex is now known as nick12S[06:26:11] *** nick12S is now known as sontek[06:26:32] *** sontek is now known as nick12[06:34:22] *** nick12 is now known as Supaplex[06:44:19] *** jcrites has quit IRC[06:44:28] *** jcrites has joined #postfix[06:45:13] *** jcrites is now known as JustinC[06:47:18] *** JustinC has quit IRC[07:28:53] <stevo_inco> Hi guys, I'm trying to setup sasl on my mail server, and I've got it "semi" working.[07:29:20] <stevo_inco> It's referencing a pgsql database (for dbmail) for the usernames and passwords.[07:29:40] <stevo_inco> I have two accounts, one's username is "steve" and the other is "steve@domain".[07:30:06] <stevo_inco> the 'steve' account works, and the 'steve@domain' doesn't.[07:30:46] *** keanne has quit IRC[07:31:03] <stevo_inco> I'm not really sure why it would do that... other than I've been at this for several hours and perhaps I'm missing something stupid.[07:31:04] <stevo_inco> lol[07:31:43] <stevo_inco> Is there any reason that the full e-mail address would cause an issue like that?[07:33:11] *** marc7 has joined #postfix[07:50:01] *** hemry has quit IRC[07:50:27] *** hemry has joined #postfix[07:53:57] <stevo_inco> ah crap[07:53:58] *** _bugz_ has quit IRC[07:54:54] <stevo_inco> It wont work if the password is hashed in the database at all[07:54:55] <stevo_inco> :([07:56:07] <stevo_inco> anyway. Set it to plaintext and it worked. :/[07:58:35] <Motoko-chan> Which SASL provider are you using?[08:00:34] *** Motoko-chan has quit IRC[08:07:54] <stevo_inco> It has providers? lol[08:08:10] <stevo_inco> Cyrus SASL2[08:11:53] *** Zeit|awy has quit IRC[08:18:35] *** pitakill has quit IRC[08:45:18] *** hemry has quit IRC[08:45:57] *** hemry has joined #postfix[09:12:18] *** j_s has joined #postfix[09:19:38] *** rootsvr has joined #postfix[09:22:59] *** rootsvr has quit IRC[09:37:27] *** solar_ant has quit IRC[09:37:34] *** hemry has quit IRC[09:37:36] *** solar_ant has joined #postfix[09:46:57] *** hemry has joined #postfix[09:51:05] *** jMCg_ has joined #Postfix[09:55:23] *** jMCg has quit IRC[10:01:00] *** war has joined #postfix[10:01:57] *** djs_2_6 has quit IRC[10:09:50] *** duki has joined #postfix[10:30:18] *** rootsvr has joined #postfix[10:36:32] *** duki has quit IRC[10:37:39] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[10:43:05] *** rootsvr has quit IRC[10:43:32] *** jMCg_ is now known as jMCg[11:02:11] *** theblackbox has joined #postfix[11:02:30] *** Lap_64 has joined #postfix[11:07:12] *** pirho has joined #postfix[11:08:59] *** duki has joined #postfix[11:13:06] *** rootsvr has joined #postfix[11:15:46] *** hemry has quit IRC[11:16:26] *** hemry has joined #postfix[11:21:24] *** amrit|bbl is now known as amrit|zzz[11:30:16] *** flami has joined #postfix[11:41:11] *** Lap_64 has quit IRC[11:42:20] *** vms has joined #postfix[11:43:00] *** memetic has quit IRC[11:47:07] *** Lap_64 has joined #postfix[11:57:48] *** roxlu_ has quit IRC[11:57:53] *** roxlu_ has joined #postfix[12:00:55] *** stevo_inco has quit IRC[12:15:17] *** rootsvr has quit IRC[12:15:45] *** ack_syn has quit IRC[12:31:07] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[12:32:30] *** christopher_ has quit IRC[12:40:03] *** hemry has quit IRC[12:40:27] *** hemry has joined #postfix[12:41:06] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[12:54:56] *** marc77 has joined #postfix[12:54:57] *** marc7 has quit IRC[12:56:38] *** duki has quit IRC[13:07:09] <whatever__> hi, I am using spamhaus Zen's RBL, can I whitelist an IP address from my postfix?[13:08:45] <dragonheart> whatever__: what restriction are you using the RBL on?[13:08:59] <whatever__> recipient[13:09:12] <war> then whitelist before that check yeah?[13:09:37] <dragonheart> check_client_access having a map that accepts your whitelisted values[13:10:15] <whatever__> war, to my knowledge order is not important for postfix, not like exim[13:10:16] <dragonheart> disclaimer - watch out for adding relays[13:10:45] <dragonheart> order is important - once an accept is hit it stops processing[13:11:02] *** meandtheshell has joined #postfix[13:11:46] <whatever__> dragonheart, that is good to know, I will give it a shot. Thank you[13:12:48] <flami> whatever__, maybe this is the right topic: http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_ACCESS_README.html[13:13:15] <dragonheart> probably[13:13:25] <dragonheart> putting after reject_unauth_destination would be advisable[13:14:08] <flami> see ya dudes and dudettes[13:14:09] *** flami has quit IRC[13:14:12] <whatever__> Great!! thanks all[13:16:54] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[13:19:25] *** stevo_inco has joined #postfix[13:22:43] *** hemry has quit IRC[13:23:01] *** duki has joined #postfix[13:23:27] *** hemry has joined #postfix[13:25:11] *** rootsvr has joined #postfix[13:26:19] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[13:31:31] <rob0> This is ever so wrong: 12:10 < whatever__> war, to my knowledge order is not important for postfix, not like exim[13:31:45] <rob0> Restrictions are indeed evaluated in order.[13:32:14] <sysmonk> rob0: nah, let him set smtp_client_restrictions = reject[13:32:20] <sysmonk> the order doesn't matter ! :)[13:32:21] <rob0> ah, I see dragonheart got it[13:32:34] <whatever__> rob0, yes i get it now thank you[13:33:00] <whatever__> sysmonk, you are the funny man[13:33:09] <sysmonk> nah, i'm the bad man :)[13:33:41] <rob0> Nice little whitelisting trick: don't use "OK" or permit ... use "permit_auth_destination". That way you're not open to relaying.[13:33:42] *** lambda has joined #postfix[13:33:49] <lambda> hello[13:34:09] <dragonheart> nice suggestion bad man sysmonk[13:34:18] <rob0> Although, this works too: 12:13 < dragonheart> putting after reject_unauth_destination would be advisable[13:35:36] <lambda> I can't understand why a spam with From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?bedou=20marie?=" <bedou_marie at orangemail dot es>[13:35:36] <lambda> To: bedou_marie at orangemail dot es <bedou_marie at orangemail dot es>[13:35:53] <lambda> can't reach my own mailbox lambda at mydomain dot org ?[13:37:37] <rob0> Headers are irrelevant. So I would have no idea, either.[13:38:22] *** rootsvr has quit IRC[13:40:11] <lambda> some kind of black magic[13:41:13] <rob0> Well, I have a really bizarre idea. LOOK IN YOUR LOGS![13:41:53] <rob0> If a message was rejected OR accepted, it is logged.[13:42:23] <rob0> If it's not logged, then either: 1. your syslogd is broken; or 2. it never arrived.[13:47:37] *** aatmaa has joined #postfix[13:47:46] <lambda> (22136-09) ESMTP::10024 /var/amavis/tmp/amavis-20071110T021734-22136: <bedou_marie at orangemail dot es> -> <lambda at so-sweet dot org> SIZE=4174 Received: from smtp.so-sweet.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.so-sweet.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP for <lambda at so-sweet dot org>[13:48:41] <aatmaa> hi.. when i send mail to hotmail .. it doesn't go there instead it says mail has been queued. Any ideas?[13:50:37] <lambda> I am little worry about ESMTP in mail.log[13:52:11] <UQlev> aatmaa: you must be in a very close relations to M$ to send them ;)[13:52:21] *** denis has joined #postfix[13:53:57] <aatmaa> sorry couldnt get you .. mails are being sent fine elsewhere... except hotmail. iam getting this error[13:54:00] <aatmaa> ....relay=mx4.hotmail.com[65.54.244.104]:25, delay=0.58, delays=0.01/0/0.26/0.3, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 <20071110123037.A8D121230001 at web1 dot xxx.com> Queued mail for delivery)[13:54:11] <denis> Hi, Is there an easy way to put a footer for all outgoing messages?[13:54:17] <rob0> Hotmail issues are well known. They discard mail. They're not a real email provider.[13:54:37] *** alamar has quit IRC[13:54:40] <aatmaa> any way to overcome this.. should i be mail their support :P[13:55:05] <jduggan> aatmaa: advise your customers not to use them, and advise your customers to advise their customers not to use them[13:55:34] <rob0> However, if you have all your DNS right (your reverse DNS equals $myhostname and forward lookup matches), you have a better chance.[13:56:31] <rob0> A very common thing we see is people who expect to run a MTA from dynamic IP space. That doesn't work. Get a static IP or use $relayhost.[13:57:26] <aatmaa> hmm .. ok thanks for all the assistance.[13:58:16] <rob0> This host here (the one I'm on IRC from) has perfect FCrDNS, but I've had Hotmail discard my mail too.[13:58:44] <rob0> So, there's no telling what logic they use. They're clueless.[13:59:25] <dragonheart> aatmaa: keep looking - it would be queued before its sent[13:59:44] <jduggan> dns spam[13:59:44] <jduggan> ;][13:59:57] <dragonheart> damit -scrolled up again[14:00:05] <aatmaa> i have been contacted by them.. they say we need to place your domain in our SenderID framework.. .. and you will have it functional in two business days. huh big names...[14:06:20] *** doori has quit IRC[14:06:31] *** hemry has quit IRC[14:06:56] *** hemry has joined #postfix[14:07:02] *** prh has joined #postfix[14:07:52] <prh> I want to test a new mail server with real mail - can I get my postfix box to forward a copy of all incoming mail to the new box as well as delivering it locally?[14:08:34] *** f3ew has quit IRC[14:11:24] *** Riff_ has joined #postfix[14:20:01] *** Jax has joined #postfix[14:20:20] <Jax> hey guys, can you tell me in which sequence virtual_alias_maps, virtual_mailbox_domains and virtual_maps are read?[14:20:26] <Jax> sorry virtual_mailbox_maps 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has joined #postfix[22:54:41] *** PierreTramo has joined #postfix[22:54:41] *** Zerberus has joined #postfix[22:54:42] *** nox has joined #postfix[22:54:42] *** Filbert has joined #postfix[22:59:04] *** krugger has joined #postfix[23:00:27] <adaptr> !masquerade_domains[23:00:27] <knoba> adaptr: "masquerade_domains" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional list of domains whose subdomain structure will be stripped off in email addresses.[23:00:34] <krugger> I followed what was in the rewrite section on postfix.org[23:00:35] <krugger> and was hoping that any mail coming to user at someserver dot my.domain would be changed to user at my dot domain[23:00:36] <krugger> as I also set up the masquerade_classe[23:00:36] <krugger> to masquerade_classes = envelope_sender, envelope_recipient, header_sender, header_recipient[23:00:37] <adaptr> erm.. no, incoming mail is never rewritten, of course - that's what aliases are for[23:00:38] <krugger> so that envelope_recipient doesn't affect that?[23:00:39] <krugger> because I got a whole lot of someserver[23:00:57] <krugger> so how can I alias user at machine dot my.domain to user at my dot domain? I was trying with virtual put it was also not working[23:01:18] <adaptr> you have to answer why it is sent that way in the first place[23:01:18] <adaptr> avoid that if at all possible, as it's useless :)[23:01:24] <krugger> well I just migrated a mail server[23:01:25] <krugger> and some other department is sending to the old server[23:01:26] <krugger> so I changed the firewall to deliver everything to me[23:01:26] <adaptr> *why* are they doing that ? tell them to stop, and use the MX to send mail[23:01:27] <adaptr> that's what they should be doing in the first place[23:01:28] <krugger> I changed the MX to point to the new one[23:01:28] <krugger> but the got it hard coded[23:01:28] <adaptr> that'll be their problem :)[23:01:43] <krugger> and what about smtpd_client_restrictions ?[23:01:43] <krugger> what should I use there?[23:01:44] <krugger> I got only authenticated user to send mail[23:01:44] <adaptr> for what purpose ?[23:01:44] <krugger> but that makes it impossible for gmail for example to deliver mail to me[23:01:44] <adaptr> every other mail server in the world is also a client[23:01:44] <krugger> as it is not autenticated[23:01:45] <adaptr> so yes, it appears you have discovered that[23:01:45] <krugger> so I should allow anyone to come here and spam my users?[23:01:46] <adaptr> no... you should put some more time into discovering how postfix' access controls work[23:01:47] <adaptr> as they are quite flexible[23:01:50] <krugger> I have experimented with permite sasl and permite networks and the check access white list[23:01:50] *** phnord has joined #postfix[23:01:50] <adaptr> that's only part of the puzzle... you need to put decent spam controls in place as well, and set up exactly what you wish to deliver, and where[23:01:52] <krugger> I only got postgrey and spamassassin[23:01:52] <adaptr> you don't use blacklists ?[23:01:53] <adaptr> blacklists stop 85% or more of all my spam[23:02:04] <adaptr> and just one blacklist stops 90% of that - zen.spamhaus.org[23:02:11] <krugger> so something like dspam ? razor?[23:02:21] <adaptr> why ?[23:04:22] <krugger> I will put it up next[23:04:36] <krugger> but first I have to make sure people are getting their mail[23:04:53] <adaptr> do you mean they are not getting their mail now ?[23:04:56] <krugger> I added the server.my.domain to the destinations[23:05:05] <krugger> but still it doesn't know the users[23:05:19] <krugger> yes, they are not getting outside mail[23:05:40] <adaptr> what do you mean, "still" ?[23:05:43] <krugger> as it is sunday I don't have lots of people jumping around at the moment[23:05:47] <adaptr> what do your logs say[23:05:50] *** doori has quit IRC[23:06:00] *** doori has joined #postfix[23:07:37] <krugger> user unknown in local recipient table, because he doesn't know user at server dot mydomain although the user does exist[23:07:52] <krugger> and it gets mail if sent with user@domain[23:08:19] <krugger> I put the server.mydomain in the destinations, but it didn't help[23:10:52] *** UQlev has quit IRC[23:11:27] <krugger> it correctly identifies it as local and deliverabel but then rejects the mail[23:14:14] *** andi__ has quit IRC[23:14:59] <krugger> will put some canonical maps to see if it gets solved[23:17:50] <krugger> removed client restrictions[23:18:54] *** Schmidt has joined #postfix[23:31:23] *** rcsu has quit IRC[23:44:47] *** andi__ has joined #postfix[23:46:18] <adaptr> well, yes - usually, recipient restrictions suffices[23:48:22] <adaptr> krugger if putting the FQDN of the server in mydestinations doesn't solve it, then you also have it elsewhere, where it should not be[23:59:01] *** j_s has quit IRC