November 8, 2007 
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November 8, 2007 [00:01:31] *** pitakill has quit IRC[00:02:13] <rob0> ebrahim: That would have to be a restriction class. The lookup result has to be a single token.[00:02:28] <ebrahim> rob0, done! thnx[00:02:40] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[00:02:43] <ebrahim> rob0, I did it as I said[00:03:20] <rob0> oh, that worked?[00:04:12] <ebrahim> rob0, yes! now I can send as usual when authenticated or mynetworks and else rejected[00:04:29] <ebrahim> rob0, but I did it using hash:/[00:04:42] <ebrahim> rob0, I'd like to do it using mysql:/[00:04:54] <ebrahim> rob0, how?[00:05:53] <rob0> make a table with the data you want, make a query to return the right data ... MYSQL_README.html[00:06:03] <rob0> (seems like a strange idea FWIW)[00:07:30] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[00:08:51] <ebrahim> rob0, you mean I ought to leave it as hash:/[00:08:56] <ebrahim> rob0, ?[00:10:05] *** pitakill has quit IRC[00:11:18] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[00:11:38] <rob0> how often is this access map going to change? SQL is good for frequently changing data.[00:11:57] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[00:12:45] <ebrahim> rob0, u r right. I'll keep hash:/ (but I'm still curious about how it can be done with mysql:/!!!)[00:14:27] <rob0> snwered[00:14:35] <rob0> answered*[00:16:32] <ebrahim> rob0, the result of MySQL query must be sth like this?: mydomain.com permit_mynetworks,reject[00:19:06] <rob0> The domain (use "example.com" as example, not a real domain name) is the key, and "permit_mynetworks,reject" would be the result.[00:19:21] *** Ballsius has joined #postfix[00:19:34] <Ballsius> i have this problem:[00:19:35] <Ballsius> 554 Error: too many hops[00:19:42] <Ballsius> with amavisd/clamd[00:20:44] <rob0> Ballsius: add more barley[00:21:00] <Ballsius> lol[00:21:04] <Ballsius> host 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1] said: 554 5.6.0 Failed, id=10449-01, from MTA([127.0.0.1]:10025): 554 Error: too many hops (in reply to end of DATA command)[00:21:11] <rob0> looks like you have a mail loop[00:21:14] *** bkw has quit IRC[00:21:41] <Ballsius> Nov 7 18:07:45 localhost amavis[10449]: (10449-01) FWD via SMTP: <jkdoherty at gmail dot com> -> <jkdoherty at thecsl dot org>, 554 5.6.0 Failed, id=10449-01, from MTA([127.0.0.1]:10025): 554 Error: too many hops[00:22:01] <Ballsius> i guess postfix its a snoby beer drinker[00:22:56] *** duki has joined #postfix[00:23:54] <ebrahim> rob0, I get 451 4.3.5 Server configuration error!!![00:23:55] *** Golumn has quit IRC[00:24:06] <ebrahim> rob0, how can I find the error?[00:24:33] <Ballsius> yes rob0 it would appear that i hav a mail loop on localhost[00:24:44] *** roland_k has left #postfix[00:25:09] <Ballsius> would you look at my master.cf to see where it could be occuring?[00:25:13] <rob0> I'll bet Ballsius has content_filter pointed at what should be the reinjection port.[00:26:47] *** pitakill has quit IRC[00:27:06] <Ballsius> http://pastebin.com/d17086a6[00:30:18] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[00:39:07] *** felix_da_catz has quit IRC[00:46:34] *** Xzisted has quit IRC[00:52:17] *** pitakill has quit IRC[00:54:09] *** ebrahim has quit IRC[00:54:21] *** Ballsius has quit IRC[00:58:15] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[01:05:21] *** linkslice has quit IRC[01:05:46] *** Lunar_Lamp has quit IRC[01:05:56] *** war has quit IRC[01:09:54] *** sn00p- has quit IRC[01:10:16] *** sn00p- has joined #postfix[01:18:11] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[01:33:04] *** solar_ant has joined #postfix[01:35:53] *** Motoko-chan has quit IRC[01:38:55] *** duki has quit IRC[01:39:13] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[01:39:39] <kgoetz> !bot[01:39:39] <knoba> kgoetz: "bot" : The bot 'knoba' resides here to learn and tell about factoids. See http://workaround.org/f=postfix for the list of currently supported factoids.[01:39:56] <kgoetz> !local_recipient_maps[01:39:57] <knoba> kgoetz: "local_recipient_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Lookup tables with all names or addresses of local recipients. A recipient address is local when its domain matches $mydestination, $inet_interfaces or $proxy_interfaces.[01:40:04] * kgoetz had forgotten who teh bot was :$[01:40:23] <kgoetz> !virtual_alias_maps[01:40:24] <knoba> kgoetz: "virtual_alias_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup tables that alias specific mail addresses or domains to other local or remote address. The table format and lookups are documented in virtual(5).[01:40:53] <kgoetz> having seen them, does anyone know if i need both or not?[01:42:17] <Supaplex> virtual_alias_maps can direct mail to one or more local, remote users.[01:42:19] <rob0> I would ask kgoetz. How could anyone else say what you "need"?[01:42:36] <Supaplex> I haven't use the other[01:42:41] <kgoetz> rob0: fair call.[01:43:50] <kgoetz> Supaplex: ok, cheers[01:45:53] <kgoetz> !local_recipient_maps[01:45:54] <knoba> kgoetz: "local_recipient_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Lookup tables with all names or addresses of local recipients. A recipient address is local when its domain matches $mydestination, $inet_interfaces or $proxy_interfaces.[01:45:55] *** wdp has quit IRC[01:46:15] <kgoetz> doesnt accept that in pm :|[02:00:03] <jduggan> can you do a transport based on sasl_username?[02:00:34] <jduggan> s/can you/is it possible to/[02:00:41] <sn00p-> What is a good auto responder for postfix?[02:03:32] <rob0> local_recipient_maps are necessary for local(8) delivery, unless you're using luser_relay (a catchall, bad idea.)[02:03:48] <rob0> virtual_alias_maps has a dual purpose.[02:04:01] *** methods has joined #postfix[02:04:03] <methods> is it possible/normal/appropriate for the mta to use lmtp for authentication purposes, leaving it up to the imap server to handle the authentication?[02:04:12] <rob0> 1. list all valid addresses in virtual_alias_domains;[02:04:27] <rob0> 2. redirect any address to somewhere else.[02:04:49] <methods> you talking to me ?[02:04:52] <hparker> alias somewhere else to rob0[02:05:30] <sn00p-> What is a good auto responder for postfix?[02:06:14] *** hachiya has joined #postfix[02:06:21] <hachiya> anyone know if vmailadmin is still being maintained?[02:06:31] <hachiya> the webpage has been down for a few months now[02:09:53] *** thumbs has joined #postfix[02:09:53] *** deemon has quit IRC[02:15:19] *** hparker has quit IRC[02:16:36] *** hparker has joined #postfix[02:20:16] *** vr has quit IRC[02:20:16] *** mikefoo has quit IRC[02:20:18] *** emo_ninja has quit IRC[02:20:18] *** Stijn has quit IRC[02:20:19] *** sep has quit IRC[02:20:19] *** jpalmer has quit IRC[02:20:22] *** keanne has quit IRC[02:20:23] *** k31th has quit IRC[02:20:23] *** dec has quit IRC[02:20:24] *** mathez has quit IRC[02:20:24] *** rmayorga has quit IRC[02:20:24] *** AllenJB has quit IRC[02:20:25] *** hachiya has quit IRC[02:20:25] *** Bejgli has quit IRC[02:20:25] *** rsc has quit IRC[02:20:26] *** memic has quit IRC[02:20:26] *** sysmonk has quit IRC[02:20:26] *** higuita has quit IRC[02:20:26] *** kimmey2k3 has quit IRC[02:20:26] *** dmnd has quit IRC[02:20:26] *** jelly has quit IRC[02:20:27] *** Kamping_Kaiser has quit IRC[02:20:27] *** hal1on has quit IRC[02:20:32] *** sysmonk has joined #postfix[02:20:32] *** memic has joined #postfix[02:20:32] *** Bejgli has joined #postfix[02:20:32] *** rsc has joined #postfix[02:20:32] *** jelly has joined #postfix[02:20:32] *** higuita has joined #postfix[02:20:32] *** vr has joined #postfix[02:20:32] *** dmnd has joined #postfix[02:20:32] *** kimmey2k3 has joined #postfix[02:20:32] *** hal1on has joined #postfix[02:20:32] *** Kamping_Kaiser has joined #postfix[02:25:21] *** hachiya has joined #postfix[02:25:21] *** mikefoo has joined #postfix[02:25:21] *** rmayorga has joined #postfix[02:25:21] *** keanne has joined #postfix[02:25:21] *** Stijn has joined #postfix[02:25:21] *** emo_ninja has joined #postfix[02:25:22] *** jpalmer has joined #postfix[02:25:22] *** sep has joined #postfix[02:25:22] *** dec has joined #postfix[02:25:22] *** mathez has joined #postfix[02:25:22] *** AllenJB has joined #postfix[02:25:22] *** k31th has joined #postfix[02:35:06] *** rsc has quit IRC[02:35:06] *** Bejgli has quit IRC[02:35:06] *** memic has quit IRC[02:35:07] *** sysmonk has quit IRC[02:36:28] *** rsc has joined #postfix[02:36:28] *** Bejgli has joined #postfix[02:36:28] *** memic has joined #postfix[02:36:28] *** sysmonk has joined #postfix[02:37:35] *** Stijn has quit IRC[02:37:35] *** mathez has quit IRC[02:37:35] *** emo_ninja has quit IRC[02:37:35] *** dec has quit IRC[02:37:36] *** AllenJB has quit IRC[02:37:37] *** keanne has quit IRC[02:37:37] *** mikefoo has quit IRC[02:37:38] *** k31th has quit IRC[02:37:38] *** sep has quit IRC[02:37:40] *** hachiya has quit IRC[02:37:40] *** jpalmer has quit IRC[02:37:43] *** rmayorga has quit IRC[02:37:44] <alamar> uff I was told to use maildrop for mailsorting with virtual domain users. I'm running debian and it seems the etch version of maildrop doesn't have mysql support. all documents I read regarding debian and maildrop[02:38:36] <alamar> always actually tell me that fact and talk about a patch to apply. the problem is everything i can find seems to be for sarge and an older maildrop version - is there any source for this patch i might have missed?[02:39:06] *** methods has left #postfix[02:39:37] *** hachiya has joined #postfix[02:39:37] *** mikefoo has joined #postfix[02:39:37] *** rmayorga has joined #postfix[02:39:37] *** keanne has joined #postfix[02:39:37] *** Stijn has joined #postfix[02:39:37] *** emo_ninja has joined #postfix[02:39:37] *** jpalmer has joined #postfix[02:39:37] *** sep has joined #postfix[02:39:38] *** dec has joined #postfix[02:39:38] *** mathez has joined #postfix[02:39:38] *** AllenJB has joined #postfix[02:39:38] *** k31th has joined #postfix[02:44:19] <hacim> alamar: to get mysql support you need to rebuild the package[02:44:32] <hacim> alamar: I did this myself, and submitted a bug to the maintainers asking for -mysql support[02:44:33] *** eboutilier has joined #postfix[02:44:47] *** stevo_inco has joined #postfix[02:44:55] <hacim> alamar: its not a patch, its just a compile-time option[02:45:06] <hacim> alamar: if you want, I can give you the deb[02:47:12] <alamar> oh I would appreciate that :)[02:47:54] <hachiya> anyone here use command line tools to create and administer virtual domains and mailboxes?[02:59:27] *** lwilke has joined #postfix[03:02:19] *** elite_chaos has joined #postfix[03:02:24] <elite_chaos> Hi everyone there is a new site out that is real great!!! This site is called Wired Geeks Forums and is based on Computer Security, hacking, gaming, warez, and also many more things. This is a fast growing community. Please check it out at http://www.wgforums.com[03:02:25] *** elite_chaos has quit IRC[03:05:05] *** Tachy has joined #postfix[03:05:54] <lwilke> hi, i am wondering how to do the following. I have some local aliases like abuse, security etc. and users like root and such. I want to accept mail for abuse@$myhostname or abuse@$somedomain from the internet but not root@$myhostname. From the inside (mynetworks) i want to accept root, too? What is the way to go here? I would use local_recipient_maps and $mydomains for root and abuse@$mydomain, and virtual_alias_{domains,maps} for abuse@some[03:06:02] <lwilke> check_recipient_accees[03:06:17] <lwilke> is there a more elegant method i wonder[03:07:23] <lwilke> the smtpd_recipient_restrictions contain reject_unlist_recipient[03:07:36] *** hparker has quit IRC[03:08:13] <lwilke> and permit_mynetworks at the top[03:08:21] *** githogori has quit IRC[03:21:34] *** Tachy_ has quit IRC[03:22:51] <lwilke> anyone?[03:23:28] *** hparker has joined #postfix[03:28:23] *** shibbz has joined #postfix[03:28:51] <shibbz> Hello everyone - newish to linux, running centos and having some config issues with postfix - anyone around to lend a hand?[03:29:08] <shibbz> I'm not a complete linux idiot, but unfortunately it's not my every day os[03:29:42] *** _FBI has quit IRC[03:29:52] *** _FBI has joined #postfix[03:29:54] <shibbz> Here's my postconf -n output[03:29:59] *** shibbz has quit IRC[03:30:26] *** shibbz has joined #postfix[03:30:31] <shibbz> Should have seen that coming...[03:30:39] <shibbz> alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases[03:30:39] <shibbz> alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases[03:30:39] <shibbz> broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes[03:30:39] <shibbz> command_directory = /usr/sbin[03:30:39] <shibbz> config_directory = /etc/postfix[03:30:40] <shibbz> daemon_directory = /usr/libexec/postfix[03:30:42] <shibbz> debug_peer_level = 2[03:30:45] <shibbz> html_directory = no[03:30:46] <shibbz> inet_interfaces = all[03:30:48] <shibbz> local_recipient_maps = unix:passwd.byname $alias_maps[03:30:50] <shibbz> mail_owner = postfix[03:30:52] <shibbz> mail_spool_directory = /var/spool/mail[03:30:55] <shibbz> mailq_path = /usr/bin/mailq.postfix[03:30:56] <shibbz> manpage_directory = /usr/share/man[03:30:58] <shibbz> mydestination = $myhostname, $mydomain, localhost[03:31:00] <shibbz> mydomain = rememberit.us[03:31:03] <shibbz> myhostname = smtp.$mydomain[03:31:04] <shibbz> mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8[03:31:05] <shibbz> mynetworks_style = subnet[03:31:08] <shibbz> myorigin = $mydomain[03:31:10] <shibbz> newaliases_path = /usr/bin/newaliases.postfix[03:31:11] <shibbz> queue_directory = /var/spool/postfix[03:31:14] <shibbz> readme_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix-2.3.3/README_FILE[03:31:16] <shibbz> relay_domains = $mydestination[03:31:18] <shibbz> sample_directory = /usr/share/doc/postfix-2.3.3/samples[03:31:21] <shibbz> sendmail_path = /usr/sbin/sendmail.postfix[03:31:22] <shibbz> setgid_group = postdrop[03:31:24] <shibbz> smtp_tls_note_starttls_offer = yes[03:31:26] <shibbz> smtp_use_tls = yes[03:31:28] <shibbz> smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_sasl_authenticated,permit_mynetworks,check_ relay_domains[03:31:29] <dec> dude[03:31:30] <dec> stop[03:31:30] <shibbz> smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes[03:31:32] <shibbz> smtpd_sasl_local_domain =[03:31:34] <shibbz> smtpd_sasl_security_options = noanonymous[03:31:36] <shibbz> smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/postfix/ssl/cacert.pem[03:31:38] <shibbz> smtpd_tls_auth_only = no[03:31:41] <shibbz> smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/postfix/ssl/smtpd.crt[03:31:43] <shibbz> smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/postfix/ssl/smtpd.key[03:31:44] <shibbz> smtpd_tls_loglevel = 1[03:31:46] <shibbz> smtpd_tls_received_header = yes[03:31:48] <shibbz> smtpd_tls_session_cache_timeout = 3600s[03:31:49] <dec> one of those times ops would be useful.[03:31:50] <shibbz> smtpd_use_tls = yes[03:31:52] <shibbz> tls_random_source = dev:/dev/urandom[03:31:55] <shibbz> unknown_local_recipient_reject_code = 550[03:31:58] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o hparker[03:32:05] <shibbz> how do you figure? It says to paste your postconf -n in here[03:32:12] <shibbz> Just doing as the instructions said.[03:32:14] <hparker> /kick shasta pastebin it[03:32:23] <hparker> eeekk... Glad I didn't use that one[03:32:27] *** ChrisC35 has joined #postfix[03:32:33] <hparker> shibbz: Reread /topic[03:32:38] <ChrisC35> hi[03:32:39] <dec> shibbz: it says to post them to a pastebin.[03:32:47] <shibbz> I'm not familiar with what pastebin is, sorry - not an everyday IRC user[03:32:53] <hparker> !pastebin[03:32:54] <knoba> hparker: "pastebin" : a way to paste larger amounts of text so that other people can read it. Try http://www.rafb.net/paste/ or http://paste.debian.net/ - Do not forget to tell us the URL where you pasted it.[03:32:59] <dec> and the "On using IRC" link makes specific note of using a pastebin and _not_ flooding[03:33:12] <shibbz> ok my bad[03:33:21] <hparker> ask, people will help you not make mistakes[03:34:06] <ChrisC35> I have a dev server on my home cable internet connection, and I'd like to set it up to send mail from php apps, etc. I have postfix installed through webmin. What is the minimum configuration I need to set to get it to send mail? i assume I need set they outgoing shaw server somewhere? do I need to set an existing mail account to use to send mail?[03:34:53] <hparker> !basic[03:34:54] <knoba> hparker: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[03:34:59] <hparker> ChrisC35: ^^^^^^^^6[03:36:16] <ChrisC35> i'm actualy already going thru that[03:36:40] <ChrisC35> but not sure what applies to what i want to do[03:39:49] *** pirho has quit IRC[03:41:25] <growltiger> if you just want sendmail, postfix will do that right out of the box, no config needed[03:41:30] <shibbz> I think I Have a dns/gateway config issue - I can telnet to postfix locally but not outside of the machine[03:42:24] <growltiger> if you are on a home connection, you might have to use relayhost=your.ispmsmtpserverhere.com to get the mail out to the internet[03:42:57] <shibbz> I have a vps out somewhere with a legit fqdn - oddly enough this is the first time I've had any connectivity issues[03:43:55] <shibbz> it has the mx records setup, and appears to be listening on port 25[03:44:16] <sn00p-> What is a good auto responder for postfix?[03:44:36] <shibbz> when I do netstat -an |grep :25 I get tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:25 0.0.0.0:* listen[03:45:08] *** robtone_ has quit IRC[03:49:00] <shibbz> I must have f'd up the config, I replaced it with the default - and while I cannot connect remotely (kind of preferred) - it's now sending mail[03:55:11] *** hparker sets mode: -o hparker[03:56:08] *** Zeit|awy is now known as Zeit|zZZz[03:56:54] *** lwilke has quit IRC[03:58:50] *** dragonheart has quit IRC[04:06:19] *** Kalavera has quit IRC[04:10:16] *** amrit|wrk is now known as amrit|bbl[04:11:53] *** ikaro^ has joined #postfix[04:25:31] *** ikaro has quit IRC[04:25:37] *** lysander has quit IRC[04:29:29] *** Stijn has quit IRC[04:29:29] *** mathez has quit 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!cheatsheet[08:45:19] <knoba> johnny_: "cheatsheet" : http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt : A HOWTO for pre-DATA spam control.[08:46:04] *** johnny_ is now known as johnny[08:52:07] *** amrit_ is now known as amrit[09:03:58] *** ek has quit IRC[09:05:33] *** pitakill has quit IRC[09:07:57] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[09:12:17] <roxlu_> hi[09:12:54] <roxlu_> When I create an alias the To: header contains the original address, is it possible to change that to the aliased mail address?[09:16:11] *** AllenJB_ is now known as AllenJB[09:19:51] *** lysander has joined #postfix[09:27:57] *** ^Willie^Laptop has joined #postfix[09:32:39] *** ioii has joined #postfix[09:34:45] *** meandtheshell has joined #postfix[09:38:20] *** Jax has joined #postfix[09:38:21] *** harobed has joined #postfix[09:45:01] *** hparker has quit IRC[09:47:51] *** brancaleone has joined #postfix[09:49:04] *** row has joined #postfix[09:51:19] <row> Morning all.[09:52:55] <row> I currently have a perfect working postfix+mysql virtual setup for a machine but my client wants to be able to set up email->email forwarding for his clients (the domains will not be managed on our server) so basically I wanted to know is there a way I can do a simple relay look table pref mysql based (different db though) to check if a email address is in the table and if so send it to a different address.[09:53:13] <row> I would rather not mix the two databases as it will get messy.[09:53:32] <row> they want to provide a email->email forwarding.[09:54:00] <row> Now as I understand way mysql works it first looks up if domain is managed or does it check alias table first?[09:55:18] <row> And even better would be if I could make the normal setup only work on one ip and the forwarding on another[09:55:51] <row> that way I can move them to dedicated systems if it grows too big etc but I don't think thats possible.[09:57:37] <row> hmm, think I might know how...[09:57:39] * row tests[10:02:06] *** war has 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How can I send via commandline all mails in the inbox of a user?[12:01:07] <keanne> rsync or scp[12:01:27] <Enquest> keanne, no that is not possible my account is now with google[12:01:41] <Enquest> same email adres but other provider[12:01:50] *** jelly-home has quit IRC[12:01:51] *** unixcoder has quit IRC[12:04:53] *** johnny has left #postfix[12:06:36] *** harobed has quit IRC[12:06:55] *** harobed_ has quit IRC[12:07:22] *** harobed has joined #postfix[12:13:11] <Enquest> all the delivered mails in mbox should be resend so they come in the right email box![12:14:31] <rob0> If you have IMAP on both sides, use an IMAP client like fetchmail/getmail.[12:14:40] <Enquest> only pop3[12:15:25] <rob0> should work.[12:15:43] *** Sieg has quit IRC[12:22:30] *** rsc is now known as rsc_F8[12:23:18] <rsc_F8> Is it possible to do TLS without having a officially signed certificate? So can I use self-signed certificated within Postfix? How does this impact?[12:26:27] *** jelly-home has joined #postfix[12:26:46] *** ^Willie^Laptop has quit IRC[12:27:55] *** ^Willie^Laptop has joined #postfix[12:28:04] <rob0> "Official" is an artificial distinction. The only isue with self-signed certs is client trust. MS clients might have trouble trusting the "unofficial" cert, but more sophisticated software will ask the user.[12:31:23] *** Twinkletoes has joined #postfix[12:34:05] *** fernando2 is now known as fernando[12:34:13] <rsc_F8> rob0: hm...M$ clients only or even M$ servers?[12:37:05] <rob0> If another MTA decides it won't trust your cert, the worst it will do is refrain from STARTTLS and deliver the mail en clair.[12:40:42] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[12:44:12] *** rootsvr has joined #postfix[12:44:33] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[12:47:06] <whatever__> can I use relay_recipient_maps with only one of the relay_domains that I have?[12:52:58] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[12:55:20] *** mark-use has quit IRC[13:02:30] <rob0> No, relay_recipient_maps if set, applies to all relay_domains. But any of those domains can have wildcard entries. (Not recommended.)[13:03:01] *** xDie has joined #postfix[13:03:31] <rob0> The wildcard could be offset with reject_unverified_recipient ... that would work and avoid backscatter.[13:05:42] <xDie> rob0, this check lookup database?[13:12:53] *** af__ has quit IRC[13:15:36] *** UQlev has quit IRC[13:16:32] *** x-ip has joined #postfix[13:16:57] *** tetraedr has joined #postfix[13:17:02] <tetraedr> hi everyone![13:20:09] <tetraedr> I want postfix to work with username not as user@domain but local_part in username and domain in domain. that's all in mysql table, I've changed username='%s' to: username='%u' and domain='%d' in postfix configs, but now I got problem with authmysqlrc instead of substituing username='${local_part}' and domain='${domain}' it sends that to mysql as is :([13:20:14] <tetraedr> what am I doing wrong?[13:23:00] <xDie> any? :P[13:25:51] <tetraedr> I'm an idiot :( not curly brackets but simple ones, 1600x1280 is evil :([13:26:16] *** mark-use has joined #postfix[13:27:00] *** tetraedr has quit IRC[13:29:27] *** Enquest has quit IRC[13:40:44] *** duki has quit IRC[13:41:47] <f3ew> oops[13:41:56] <f3ew> which is why you use a 80x25 console[13:43:49] *** etaylor has quit IRC[13:45:27] *** wdp has joined #postfix[13:47:44] <rsc_F8> Are there any information how to setup a Postfix when it shall send e-mails via relayhost where the relayhost is using TLS? And how to setup such a relayhost with TLS for mail? http://www.postfix.org/TLS_README.html mentions certificates instead of passwords...and that's what confuses me[13:53:29] <rob0> I think you're confused. TLS does not involve passwords, in general. Sounds like SASL AUTH, see the #client_auth anchor here:[13:53:36] <rob0> !sasl_readme[13:53:37] <knoba> rob0: "sasl_readme" : www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html[14:10:19] *** rootsvr has quit IRC[14:13:37] *** Peter_LI has joined #postfix[14:13:41] <Peter_LI> hi all[14:13:48] *** staimeer has joined #postfix[14:19:38] *** cpm has joined #postfix[14:20:48] *** duki has joined #postfix[14:21:15] *** hollo has joined #postfix[14:22:37] <hollo> hi.. im about to implant a policy filter on postfix.. but i wonder what the difference will be on start the policy filter as a service, or as a file.. someone who has any experiences with that?[14:27:07] <hollo> i mean in the master.conf file... refer to a policy filter with.. unix:file or inet:127.0.0.1..[14:33:49] <hollo> hmm.. now i read a thread that one contend that there are nothing to improve no matter what you choose.. is that correct?[14:39:51] *** Jax has quit IRC[14:39:56] *** Jax has joined #postfix[14:45:41] *** stevo_inco has joined #postfix[14:46:07] *** Ryushin has joined #postfix[14:50:52] *** sepski has quit IRC[14:55:33] *** aozturk has quit IRC[14:55:45] *** aozturk has joined #postfix[14:58:18] <Jax> what directory layout would you guys propse on a mass virtual hosting system?[14:58:29] <Jax> just /vmail/address ? or /vmail/domain/addressprefix ?[14:58:57] <Jax> i'm thinking of /home/domain/..[14:59:07] *** sepski has joined #postfix[14:59:44] <sysmonk> a _mass_ virtual hosting system? :)[14:59:55] * sysmonk wonders how big it is[15:00:03] <Jax> yeah like hm... dunno 1000 mailboxes not that big..[15:00:08] <sysmonk> s/it is/will be/[15:00:14] <Jax> but still.. anything you don't feel like doing every mailbox by hand, is mass for me ;)[15:00:15] <sysmonk> ah, 1k mailboxes[15:00:17] <sysmonk> that's not much[15:00:36] <Jax> 'mass' just means it has to be manageable in a decent way.[15:01:20] <sysmonk> dunno, i think i'd still go for domain/username[15:01:45] <sysmonk> but /vmail/username@domain would be allright too, with only 1k users[15:08:51] *** etaylor has joined #postfix[15:10:23] *** x-ip has quit IRC[15:10:38] *** x-ip has joined #postfix[15:14:01] *** felix_da_catz has joined #postfix[15:26:31] *** die_z has joined #postfix[15:26:48] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[15:27:18] *** brancaleone has quit IRC[15:28:16] <Jax> is this one common? postfix/smtpd[6923]: sql_select option missing \n postfix/smtpd[6923]: auxpropfunc error no mechanism available \n postfix/smtpd[6923]: _sasl_plugin_load failed on sasl_auxprop_plug_init for plugin: sql[15:30:45] <Jax> nevermind[15:30:46] <Jax> duh[15:30:46] <Jax> ;)[15:31:59] *** sepski has quit IRC[15:39:12] <mark-use> is there a way to log mail-subjects in maillog?[15:41:04] <rob0> header_checks(5), "/^Subject: / WARN"[15:41:39] <sysmonk> damn it, rob0 was first ;/[15:42:16] <rob0> First in war, first in peace, first in the hearts of our countrymen.[15:42:28] <rob0> or something like that[15:42:33] <rob0> cpm said so[15:42:51] <rob0> he wouldn't lie[15:42:53] *** Nockian has joined #postfix[15:43:53] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[15:44:34] *** Golumn has joined #postfix[15:46:47] *** unixcoder has joined #postfix[15:49:42] *** rsc_F8 is now known as rsc[15:49:43] <mark-use> rob0, I use pcre, in header_checks.pcre I have a few Subject lines, do I only have to add the one you sent?[15:50:45] *** staimeer has left #postfix[15:51:14] <rob0> IIUC you can only get one action per any particular header line. So maybe this won't work for you.[15:52:36] *** Ramattack has joined #Postfix[15:52:37] <Ramattack> Hi[15:52:46] <Ramattack> is postfix multi-rcpt or single-rcpt?[15:53:33] <rob0> SMTP is multi-rcpt. What are you asking?[15:54:04] <mark-use> Ramattack, if you use postfix as smtp, yes ;)[15:54:29] <Ramattack> I'm talking about mta delivery techniques[15:54:36] <Ramattack> for example qmail is single-rcpt[15:55:18] <Ramattack> if has to deliver one mail with 200 rcpt to a server.. it connects to the mailserver and pases the same mail 200 times...[15:55:19] *** harobed has quit IRC[15:55:27] <Ramattack> single-rcpt mtas work like this[16:00:46] <rob0> Ah, well, that's qmail. IIUC the Postfix smtp(8) client groups recipients per MX name. But it may be per domain.[16:01:39] <Ramattack> sorry IIUC what means?[16:02:44] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[16:04:54] <Jax> so what is your guys policy on sending back a notification of failure when somebody's mail is marked as spam or virus infected?[16:05:01] <Jax> you do it, or drop silently?[16:05:52] <Ramattack> Jax thats for me?[16:05:58] <Jax> no, for anybody[16:05:59] <Ramattack> I was just talking about performance...[16:06:05] <Ramattack> of course[16:06:08] <Ramattack> drop silently[16:06:18] <Ramattack> but always when are viruses[16:06:29] <Ramattack> spam I never delete it... I only tag it[16:06:30] <rob0> "If I understand correctly," meaning, I am not authoritatively certain of the answer.[16:06:52] <Ramattack> you shouldn't bounce back for saying someone he has sent a virus[16:07:02] <Ramattack> when mail has viruses drop them and you're done[16:07:24] <Ramattack> when mail is spam deliver it tagged and the user to say what he wants[16:07:31] <rob0> NEVER return something viral/spammy, because it was almost never sent by the owner of the sender address.[16:08:01] <sysmonk> bounce bounce bounce! :)[16:08:56] <Jax> so give a 5xx response?[16:09:40] <rob0> If it's an after-queue filter, either flag and pass it or quarantine or delete.[16:10:04] <rob0> 5xx would send the bounce to the "sender".[16:14:30] *** Lukemob has joined #postfix[16:14:34] <Lukemob> hello![16:14:41] <Lukemob> guys, any1 know how to make Postifx will create Maildir/ folder for every new user?[16:15:59] <Jax> which vacation script you guys use? need one with mysql support[16:16:11] <UQlev> Lukemob: once you send something to new user, postfix will create Maildir[16:16:16] <Dominian> I don't use one[16:16:24] <sysmonk> sieve ftw! :)[16:19:59] *** unixcoder has quit IRC[16:21:46] <Jax> rob0 you ever use postfixadmin ?[16:22:03] *** mark-use has quit IRC[16:29:46] <Lukemob> UQlev: thanks... but, isn't there any command?[16:32:09] <Edward123> i hear sieve ftw![16:32:18] <Edward123> not tried it myself though, don't know how to use it but it's on my to-do list[16:32:37] *** ek has joined #Postfix[16:35:40] *** hollo has quit IRC[16:39:52] *** loompek has joined #postfix[16:41:08] <loompek> what's the simplest way for creating a distribution list but with a 'hidden' To: header. i currently run sendmail and .forward file and i'd like to change to postfix.[16:42:36] <loompek> i'm planning on using postfix with courier's maildrop and pop3/imapd and Maildir/ delivery...[16:43:21] *** githogori has quit IRC[16:47:04] * Dominian just uses mailman[16:47:53] <Edward123> i use postfix & cyrus myself[16:49:18] *** xDie has quit IRC[16:51:39] <Jax> how can i read the *.db files again? there was a program...[16:52:46] <Jax> postmap -s ;)[16:52:47] <Jax> thx[16:53:13] *** mattx86 has joined #postfix[16:54:21] *** harobed has joined #postfix[16:54:33] <loompek> Jax don't mention it[16:55:29] *** frego has joined #postfix[16:55:47] <frego> Hello, is it a good solution to use alias for small ( < 20 ) mailling-list?[16:56:03] <mattx86> any ideas how to get past this AOL message: http://postmaster.aol.com/errors/421rlynw.html[16:56:19] *** af_ has joined #postfix[16:56:53] <frego> mattx86: I think you have to register somewhere on there whitelist[16:56:54] <Dominian> mattx86: Yeah.. don't send bulk email to AOL[16:57:11] <frego> mattx86: also, make sure you have a reverse host[16:57:40] <mattx86> I'm already doing all of that, minus the whitelist[16:57:42] *** j_s has joined #postfix[16:57:52] <Dominian> mattx86: how many messages are you sending to them?[16:58:24] <mattx86> Dominian: I'm not for sure.. maybe 50 - 100 per day[16:58:25] <Edward123> mattx86: have you tried speaking to the AOL postmaster? i can assure you an irritating time indeed[16:58:36] *** kreg_lt has quit IRC[16:58:37] <loompek> wc -l .forward[16:58:38] <loompek> 14507 .forward[16:58:47] <loompek> i don't think that would suffice here ;)[16:58:58] <mattx86> Edward123, not this time around...yet heh[16:59:10] <Dominian> er..[16:59:19] <Dominian> 50-100 per day sshouldn't cause AOL to throttle you..[16:59:20] <Edward123> they are incompetent in my experience[16:59:35] <Edward123> it happened to us once, appeared to be random[16:59:40] * Dominian nods[16:59:48] <Dominian> or it could be spammers ;)[16:59:57] <Dominian> but frankly..[16:59:57] <Edward123> you know what users are like - they'll click a 'spam' icon to get rid of a message instead of delete, even if it's legit[17:00:04] <Edward123> AOL users especially so[17:00:05] <Dominian> if people on my email server can't send to AOL.. I don't care[17:00:19] <Edward123> i care, we provide a lot of e-mail to external users not within our company[17:00:28] <Edward123> but people should not use AOL for business[17:00:31] <Dominian> Oh I provide.. but most people I know..[17:00:39] <Dominian> don't know anyone who uses AOL crap[17:00:44] <Dominian> unless its their IM application[17:00:53] <Dominian> and even for that most people I know use pidgin[17:00:54] <mattx86> we had been sending our outgoing mail thru our ISP, but we started sending directly again just 2 days ago[17:01:43] *** Trengo has joined #postfix[17:01:46] <rob0> I've never had trouble getting through to AOL.[17:02:14] <mattx86> I had left out mail server like that over night and came in the next morning to find about 75 AOL-destined messages queued with that 421 error[17:02:39] <rob0> Well, I take that back. I had a distribution list which included some AOL people, and got spammed. AOL rejected the spams.[17:03:10] <rob0> I ended up moving it to Mailman, and all is well again.[17:03:39] <mattx86> so yesterday I set it back, for AOL emails to go thru our ISP, and then today I set it back to go directly -- and the first e-mail to AOL gave me the 421 again[17:04:11] <mattx86> apparently ~12 hours isn't a long enough wait[17:04:16] * cpm moves rob0 to mailman[17:04:45] <Edward123> heh[17:04:49] * Edward123 sits on cyrus[17:05:34] <frego> is there a way to change the undisclosed-recipients by the email address of the alias?[17:06:02] <mattx86> since yesterday, I've had aol and a few others set to a dest. concurrency of 2 and dest. recip. limit of 50... I can't understand what I'm doing wrong[17:09:14] *** af_ has quit IRC[17:09:57] <frego> I found a solution, thx anyway[17:10:35] *** sepski has joined #postfix[17:21:16] *** ^Willie^Laptop has quit IRC[17:24:27] *** gpled has joined #postfix[17:24:41] *** mastaofdisasta has joined #postfix[17:25:37] <gpled> looking for ideas to slow down spamming machines. would like list lookup, then slow down connections that are in the list[17:25:46] <Dominian> sqlgrey[17:25:49] <Dominian> use RBLs in postfix[17:26:30] <gpled> is their backoff timers?[17:27:22] *** stevo_inco has quit IRC[17:28:22] <gpled> was also thinking of doing this at tcp level[17:28:36] <Dominian> backoof timers?[17:28:41] <Dominian> well greylisting will d othat automatically[17:28:51] <Dominian> Ify ou don't use greylisting at this point.. I would highly suggest you do so.[17:29:04] <Dominian> I'd say 90% of the conenctions that hit my greylist.. never try again because well.. they are spammers :)[17:31:36] *** Acxty has joined #postfix[17:32:08] *** Golumn has quit IRC[17:36:33] <gpled> most of our spam is from bot nets. their net uses rfc compliant smtp servers[17:38:24] <gpled> i think servers that would get caught by greylists, never get that far. they fail hostname lookups and such, before ever having a chane to grey list[17:42:20] <hacim> does anyone use a dkim signing milter?[17:47:13] *** Jax has quit IRC[17:48:16] <gpled> hacim: was reading a little on that. was not sure if it was worth the effort[17:48:18] <mattx86> applying for the AOL white list revealed that our IP space is blocked.[17:48:39] <rob0> what's the IP? Did you check on RBLs?[17:50:05] * cpm checks rob0 for an IP[17:50:12] <hacim> gpled: its a bit of a pain, I've been getting dkim-milter to work, but it wont sign everything I need it to[17:50:54] <gpled> mattx86: http://www.spamhaus.org/pbl/query/PBL033043[17:51:12] <gpled> for 68.187.20.73[17:51:33] *** Ramattack has quit IRC[17:52:20] <gpled> mattx86: what domain name are you sending email under?[17:54:28] <mattx86> hm.. interesting (talking with AOL)[17:55:06] <mattx86> if you get a 421, they say you should apply for their whitelist[17:55:55] <mattx86> we had one IP blocked, but it was in the same subnet as our mail server.[17:56:26] *** fernando has left #postfix[17:56:40] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[17:57:01] <mattx86> gpled: it's on a diff subnet than what I'm on.. RBL's generally looked fine[17:57:03] *** stse has joined #postfix[17:58:08] <mattx86> fwiw, I checked senderbase.org, dnsbl.info, and dnsstuff.com[17:58:16] <stse> Hi! How do I block mails containing a non-ASCII character in the envelope-from? strict_rfc821_envelopes is the wrong options for this.[17:59:13] <Peter_LI> it's possible, "peter trovisco"<peter at domain dot com> ?[17:59:55] <Peter_LI> in canonical[18:00:10] *** duki has quit IRC[18:00:32] *** duki has joined #postfix[18:01:18] <Peter_LI> I want that it appears in the addressee the description to peter Trovisco[18:02:00] <Peter_LI> how it is possible?[18:05:00] <mattx86> cool. apparently our IP block at AOL, was an old entry...and I can reapply for the whitelist tomorrow[18:06:43] <rob0> PBL? Why are you on PBL? That says your provider says you should not be running a MTA.[18:06:50] <gpled> can you put unicode in envelope-from?[18:06:55] *** VivekKhera has joined #postfix[18:08:18] <stse> gpled: I don't think it is allowed, but of course you can type it ;-)[18:08:33] <mattx86> nah, that IP space you just looked at is primarily for customers; our MTA is on a totally different subnet[18:09:54] <stse> MAIL FROM: <hallö at gmx dot de>[18:09:56] <stse> 250 2.1.0 Ok[18:10:28] <gpled> stse: i always wondered how you type unicode :)[18:10:29] *** frego has left #postfix[18:10:54] <gpled> we usaly get someone copying and pasting from the web[18:11:14] <stse> gpled: Linux with an UTF-8-locale, and you type everything in unicode ;-)[18:19:03] <gpled> è[18:19:14] <gpled> thats the one that gets me :)[18:19:51] <stse> gpled: I can correctly see it ;-)[18:20:26] <gpled> yep, it is tricky to do in windows. i have to alt num pad[18:22:33] <Peter_LI> is possible ?[18:22:39] <Peter_LI> please[18:22:51] <Peter_LI> it's possible, "peter trovisco"<peter at domain dot com> ?[18:23:00] <Peter_LI> I want that it appears in the addressee the description to peter Trovisc[18:23:14] *** Trengo has quit IRC[18:23:19] *** mastaofdisasta has left #postfix[18:24:05] *** mastaofdisasta has joined #postfix[18:24:13] *** die_z has quit IRC[18:25:59] *** stse has quit IRC[18:26:56] *** jake__ has joined #postfix[18:30:51] *** githogori has joined #postfix[18:31:15] <jake__> Hi is there a quick and dirty way of making a alias map without having to also tell postfix that domain is support, I don't want to be able to create mailboxes for the domains just forward to other addresses?[18:31:51] <jake__> As far as I can tell from my current mysql virtual setup it first checks if a domain exists before checking if a alias does.[18:35:17] *** mastaofdisasta has quit IRC[18:37:36] <adaptr> virtual_alias_maps[18:37:37] <adaptr> !virtual_alias_maps[18:37:38] <knoba> adaptr: "virtual_alias_maps" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup tables that alias specific mail addresses or domains to other local or remote address. The table format and lookups are documented in virtual(5).[18:37:53] <adaptr> note *specific* mail addresses[18:37:58] *** x-ip has quit IRC[18:38:17] <adaptr> it can include any domain, as long as you actually receive mail for it[18:39:11] <jake__> yeah I did that, I have working virtual mysql setup[18:39:20] <jake__> I tried by adding just the alias to the alias table[18:39:25] <jake__> and I got relay access deined[18:39:55] <jake__> when my other smtpd tried to send it, so seems like its trying to check if domain is managed before checking alias map was wondering if I could get around that without keeping a list of domains too[18:40:24] * cpm notes specific adaptr[18:40:27] <adaptr> again, the domain must be one you receive mail for[18:40:38] <Lukemob> guys, what could be the reason of that I can't receive an emails from my server? I can send... coz I've setted up the smarthost, but no way to receive... any ideaz?[18:40:39] <adaptr> that has nothing to do with virtualisms[18:40:50] <adaptr> !mydestination[18:40:51] <knoba> adaptr: "mydestination" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The list of domains that Postfix delivers via the $local_transport mail delivery transport. By default, mail is given to the Postfix local(8) delivery agent that looks up all recipients in /etc/passwd and /etc/aliases, or their equivalents.[18:40:52] <jake__> adaptr: k[18:40:59] <adaptr> and simlar[18:41:14] <adaptr> !virtual_alias_domains[18:41:14] <knoba> adaptr: "virtual_alias_domains" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional list of names of virtual alias domains, that is, domains for which all addresses are aliased to addresses in other local or remote domains.[18:41:31] <adaptr> it's in one of those, I'm nearly certain :)[18:41:48] <adaptr> postconf | grep virtual tends to be the quickest way[18:41:50] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[18:42:30] <jake__> I was in here early I am trying to avoid using my mysql db to do this as this is not to do with the current mail setup[18:42:58] <jake__> its something different, was hoping I could mix in a normal hash ffile[18:42:59] <jake__> hmm[18:43:47] <adaptr> and why not ?[18:44:06] <adaptr> postfix doesn't care where the lookup tables are[18:45:26] <adaptr> you MUST, however, list the domain in either virtual_alias_domains or virtual_mailbox_domains.[18:45:35] <adaptr> or it won't be accepted[18:45:53] <adaptr> virtual_mailbox_domains does NOT mean what you seem to think it means[18:46:23] <adaptr> it does not say that every user from that domain has a mailbox - it's merely the mydestination for virtual domains[18:49:08] *** duki has quit IRC[18:50:00] <jake__> I can use two types of lookups right for lets say virtual mailbox domains right?[18:50:10] <jake__> I can use a mysql: and a hash: was my question[18:50:18] <adaptr> for the same map ?[18:50:21] <jake__> so I can store the data in two different files[18:50:22] <jake__> yes[18:50:29] <adaptr> why would you want to do that ?[18:50:33] <jake__> I want to keep the dbs apart as they are not related as such.[18:50:38] <jake__> I will explain my exact reason[18:50:43] <adaptr> trust me, they are very related[18:50:47] <jake__> hehe[18:51:18] <adaptr> as long as you're feeding the same postfix with them, they should be in one table/map[18:51:27] <adaptr> it'll only invite confusion if you don't[18:51:28] <jake__> This server runs a full blown mail server, but my client wants to enable his clients to setup email->email forwarding so this wont require mailboxes etc so I don't want it to show in the same admin interface etc[18:51:43] <jake__> and get in way of the more complex datbase used for my postfix/courier setup[18:52:14] <jake__> would it be easy to run two postfixes on the same machine just differnet IPs?[18:52:24] <jake__> or could you recommend a daemon for my needs?[18:52:30] <adaptr> admin interface ? jake__ -- # just like that, no further info necessary; it's a negatory[18:52:52] <adaptr> you can run two smtpd servers easily, yes[18:53:02] <adaptr> which is not the same as running postfix twice[18:54:26] <jake__> nm[18:56:19] *** Edward123 has quit IRC[18:56:29] <gpled> Peter_LI: not sure, but i think the name that gets put in your from, is done at that application that you make the mail at.[18:57:32] <Peter_LI> gpled: how ?[18:57:45] <adaptr> how ? erm.. the application provides it ?[18:57:54] <gpled> Peter_LI: how are you making an email?[18:59:02] <adaptr> I feed my thoughts to the unholy spawn of sed and mailx, then wait for a few days until they produce offspring[18:59:03] <Peter_LI> gpled: creating an exit smtp[18:59:30] <adaptr> 5.1.1 no parse, sorry[18:59:43] <gpled> Peter_LI: i dont understand.[19:01:11] <Peter_LI> servmail smtp for internet[19:01:36] <Peter_LI> only[19:01:55] <adaptr> duh -whut ?[19:02:04] <adaptr> can you try to use more words ?[19:03:29] <Peter_LI> gpled: my machine ----> servermail (notes) ----> servermail (postfix) ----> internet[19:03:41] <adaptr> what the heck is "servermail"?[19:04:38] *** apeiron_ has joined #postfix[19:04:44] <Peter_LI> it was thought about something thus:[19:04:55] <Peter_LI> sender_canonical[19:05:25] <Peter_LI> peter at domain dot com "peter trovisco"<peter at domain dot com>[19:05:49] *** Spec[x] has joined #postfix[19:05:51] <adaptr> that is not information postfix cares about, or is willing to supply for you[19:06:03] *** Spec[x] is now known as Spec[19:06:07] *** Internat3 has joined #postfix[19:06:07] <adaptr> if it's there, it's rpeserved, but if it's not, there's nothing postfix can do about it[19:06:12] <adaptr> *preserved, even[19:06:23] *** g-Lukemob has joined #postfix[19:06:46] <adaptr> supplying the pretty mailboxname is and always will be the task of the user agent[19:07:04] <adaptr> or source MTA, in this case[19:08:28] *** Lukemob has quit IRC[19:08:28] *** Internat has quit IRC[19:08:28] *** _Tino has quit IRC[19:08:29] *** SeJo has quit IRC[19:08:29] *** jpalmer has quit IRC[19:08:29] *** rmayorga has quit IRC[19:08:29] *** growltiger has quit IRC[19:08:30] *** Dominian has quit IRC[19:08:31] *** hacim has quit IRC[19:08:31] *** Chattanuga has quit IRC[19:08:31] *** aakkonen has quit IRC[19:08:34] *** _gAri- has quit IRC[19:08:35] *** aaronc has quit IRC[19:08:35] *** x-spec-t has quit IRC[19:08:36] *** apeiron has quit IRC[19:08:38] *** growltiger has joined #postfix[19:08:47] *** apeiron_ is now known as apeiron[19:08:52] <Peter_LI> how could this making this?[19:09:05] <rob0> SMTP addresses are strictly controlled. "MAIL FROM:<foo at example dot com>" "RCPT TO:<bar at example dot org>", there is no "real name" portion to the envelope addresses.[19:09:08] *** Dominian has joined #postfix[19:09:10] *** hacim has joined #postfix[19:10:33] *** jpalmer has joined #postfix[19:10:55] *** SeJo has joined #postfix[19:11:02] *** _gAri- has joined #postfix[19:11:19] <adaptr> rob0 I know, I assume he means the header from, which is set by whatever sent the mail[19:11:26] *** _Tino has joined #postfix[19:11:56] *** aakkonen has joined #postfix[19:12:11] <Peter_LI> but would have as to make this?[19:12:25] <Peter_LI> how ?[19:12:36] <adaptr> I can't understand every other word, Peter_LI[19:12:51] <adaptr> how can postfix do this ? it *cannot*.[19:13:15] <rob0> Yeah, I sense a major language barrier here.[19:13:32] <Peter_LI> i'm sorry[19:13:37] <rob0> We answered the question as best we could understand it.[19:13:42] * adaptr frowns at rob0's 6th sense[19:13:44] <Peter_LI> my bad ingles[19:13:48] <adaptr> heh[19:13:56] <adaptr> English![19:14:06] <rob0> Anglais![19:14:08] <adaptr> ....I'll leave it up to others to finish the sentence[19:14:11] <Peter_LI> yes...[19:14:11] *** Lukemob has joined #postfix[19:14:11] *** Internat has joined #postfix[19:14:11] *** rmayorga has joined #postfix[19:14:11] *** x-spec-t has joined #postfix[19:14:11] *** aaronc has joined #postfix[19:14:11] *** Chattanuga has joined #postfix[19:14:12] *** rmayorga has quit IRC[19:14:24] <adaptr> Samuel-el-el ftw[19:15:00] *** x-spec-t has quit IRC[19:15:10] <Peter_LI> i have big problem... :([19:15:34] <adaptr> that's.. actually superfluous information, we already get that[19:18:00] <adaptr> if you could explain what the problem *is* :)[19:18:34] <Dominian> adaptr: the problem is that he has a problem.[19:19:29] *** rmayorga has joined #postfix[19:19:35] <adaptr> understood - he's a master of zen[19:19:43] <adaptr> is he Yoda in disguise ?[19:19:56] *** duki has joined #postfix[19:20:08] <Dominian> adaptr: Do not know I do.[19:20:10] <Dominian> er.[19:21:01] <adaptr> I have a better one for you: http://www.forum.tarnow.pl/grafika_forum/57.jpg[19:22:06] <Dominian> haha[19:22:11] <Dominian> I almost spit my soda[19:22:15] <Dominian> damn you[19:22:56] *** jpalmer has quit IRC[19:22:56] *** g-Lukemob has quit IRC[19:22:58] *** Zeit|awy has quit IRC[19:22:58] *** lysander has quit IRC[19:22:59] *** chrisq has quit IRC[19:22:59] *** Sweeper has quit IRC[19:22:59] *** Radiance has quit IRC[19:23:01] *** idioterna has quit IRC[19:23:01] *** andi__ has quit IRC[19:23:02] *** roxlu_ has quit IRC[19:23:02] *** dogmeat has quit IRC[19:23:02] *** flart has quit IRC[19:23:04] *** roxlu has quit IRC[19:23:04] *** Radiance has joined #postfix[19:23:12] <adaptr> wouldn't that be: "Cursed by the gods, be you" ?[19:23:32] <Dominian> hah[19:23:36] <adaptr> and wtf is up with freenode randomly dropping users[19:23:41] <Dominian> netsplits[19:23:48] <adaptr> from random servers[19:23:49] <Dominian> must be the DDoS they've been getting hit with[19:23:55] <adaptr> uhm[19:24:01] <Dominian> It was reallyb ad last night[19:24:03] <Dominian> really bad[19:24:15] <adaptr> velly velly bad, last night it was....[19:24:18] <Dominian> I've been tempted to fire my ircd back up[19:24:29] *** fernando has joined #postfix[19:24:43] *** Internat has quit IRC[19:24:53] *** fernando has quit IRC[19:24:56] *** jpalmer has joined #postfix[19:24:56] *** g-Lukemob has joined #postfix[19:24:56] *** Zeit|awy has joined #postfix[19:24:56] *** lysander has joined #postfix[19:24:56] *** chrisq has joined #postfix[19:24:56] *** Sweeper has joined #postfix[19:24:57] *** roxlu has joined #postfix[19:24:57] *** idioterna has joined #postfix[19:24:57] *** andi__ has joined #postfix[19:24:57] *** flart has joined #postfix[19:24:57] *** roxlu_ has joined #postfix[19:25:26] *** dogmeat has joined #postfix[19:25:33] *** fernando has joined #postfix[19:25:36] <rob0> DDoS leads to anger. Anger leads to netsplits. Netsplits lead to the Dark Side.[19:25:50] <Dominian> Right you are young rob0[19:25:57] *** flart has quit IRC[19:26:09] *** flart has joined #postfix[19:26:18] <adaptr> anger leads to hate. hate leads to fear. fear is the mind killer.[19:26:20] <adaptr> erm no, wait.....[19:26:36] <adaptr> anger leads to hate... hate leads to.. damn[19:26:45] *** roxlu has quit IRC[19:26:48] *** roxlu has joined #postfix[19:26:54] <Dominian> anger leads to hate.. hates leads to lust.. lust leads to masturbation[19:26:55] <Dominian> er. no[19:27:06] <gpled> lol[19:27:17] <adaptr> fear, absolutely - I'm afraid to talk to you now[19:27:21] <Dominian> hehe[19:27:24] *** Sweeper has quit IRC[19:27:27] *** Sweeper has joined #postfix[19:27:32] *** Lukemob has quit IRC[19:28:47] <gpled> its all ball bearings http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGUZGsBB7Q4[19:29:06] *** harobed has quit IRC[19:31:20] *** gpled has left #postfix[19:32:22] *** _Tino has quit IRC[19:32:22] *** _gAri- has quit IRC[19:32:22] *** SeJo 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Choose a POP3 server, install it, tell it to read from the same mailboxes that Postfix delivers to, enjoy.[20:14:19] *** hacim_ has joined #postfix[20:14:23] *** greed has quit IRC[20:14:30] *** Radiance has quit IRC[20:15:03] *** hacim has quit IRC[20:15:49] *** dogmeat has joined #postfix[20:17:08] <hacim_> alamar_: did you get my .deb?[20:18:59] *** unixcoder has joined #postfix[20:24:09] *** dogmeat has quit IRC[20:24:12] *** roe__ has quit IRC[20:24:12] *** Signum has quit IRC[20:24:13] *** Mavvie has quit IRC[20:24:13] *** VivekKhera has quit IRC[20:24:14] *** war has quit IRC[20:24:14] *** Internat3 has quit IRC[20:24:14] *** lunaphyte_ has quit IRC[20:24:14] *** lunaphyte has quit IRC[20:24:14] *** majikman has quit IRC[20:24:14] *** tibyke has quit IRC[20:24:14] *** w0rd54 has quit IRC[20:24:14] *** traxx has quit IRC[20:24:17] *** apeiron has quit IRC[20:24:17] *** dembug has quit IRC[20:24:17] *** ek has quit IRC[20:24:17] *** kreg has quit IRC[20:24:17] *** mooch has quit 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to change to postfix.[20:40:50] <loompek> i'm planning on using postfix with courier's maildrop and pop3/imapd and Maildir/ delivery...[20:41:12] <loompek> for a quite BIG distribution list...[20:41:44] <loompek> i just don't want the recipients to see what address i'm sending the mail to (so they couldn't spam)[20:41:57] *** UQlev has quit IRC[20:41:59] *** unixcoder has quit IRC[20:41:59] *** fernando has quit IRC[20:41:59] *** mjoseph has quit IRC[20:42:02] *** Peter_LI has quit IRC[20:42:02] *** Aletheuo has quit IRC[20:42:02] *** ziyax has quit IRC[20:42:03] *** memetic has quit IRC[20:42:03] *** ikaro has quit IRC[20:42:03] *** kgoetz has quit IRC[20:42:03] *** dec has quit IRC[20:42:04] *** hachiya has quit IRC[20:42:04] *** thumbs has quit IRC[20:42:04] *** faitZ has quit IRC[20:42:04] *** e_ has quit IRC[20:42:05] *** cafuego has quit IRC[20:42:45] *** unixcoder has joined #postfix[20:42:45] *** fernando has joined #postfix[20:42:45] *** mjoseph has joined #postfix[20:42:46] 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and like i said... i wouldn't like users to see To: mylist at domain dot com part :D[20:55:18] *** mozart132 is now known as mozart213[20:55:35] *** mozart213 is now known as gilbertonunes32[20:56:06] *** gilbertonunes32 has quit IRC[20:58:25] *** hparker has quit IRC[20:58:27] <aent_> I'm not too familiar with postfix but I think spam is somehow being sent from my server... 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Postfix hands it off, I process it, add in some headers, pass it back.[21:26:47] <mbainter> that all works great[21:26:56] *** Acxty has quit IRC[21:27:09] <mbainter> now what I want to do is take all of the mail that is flagged as 'Spam' and redirect it to a new (local) user rather than send it on.[21:27:09] *** stpierre has joined #postfix[21:27:52] <stpierre> if someone sends mail to "" at mydomain dot com, it winds up in my mailbox, presumably because postmaster@... delivers to me. how can I stop that from happening?[21:28:07] <mbainter> so, in the master.cf entry for the smtpd instance listening for the filtered mail, I added a -o header_checks=pcre:/etc/postfix/header_checks.db[21:28:56] <mbainter> then in header_checks I'm matching on X-Bogofilter: Spam, with a REDIRECT target for this other address[21:29:07] <mbainter> It doesn't seem to be working however.[21:29:28] <mbainter> Am I missing something? 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#postfix[21:50:46] *** Acxty has joined #postfix[21:51:21] <roe__> isn't 450 a temporary error and the sending mailserver should be expected to try again?[21:51:40] <dragonheart> yes[21:52:42] *** etaylor has quit IRC[21:52:50] *** prebur has quit IRC[21:53:34] <roe__> infact aren't all 400s temporary errors?[21:54:05] <dragonheart> y[21:54:54] <Supaplex> 404 message not found. ;)[21:55:58] *** cpm has quit IRC[21:57:17] *** loompek has quit IRC[22:01:23] *** apeiron has quit IRC[22:01:37] *** apeiron has joined #postfix[22:09:19] *** Golumn has quit IRC[22:11:01] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[22:11:41] *** rootsvr_ has joined #postfix[22:12:50] *** unixtippse_ is now known as unixtippse[22:13:22] *** rootsvr has quit IRC[22:23:48] *** Isnogud has joined #postfix[22:23:58] <Isnogud> exit[22:24:02] *** Isnogud has left #postfix[22:24:58] *** pirho has joined #postfix[22:25:27] *** Ryushin has joined #postfix[22:38:14] *** sparkley1one has quit IRC[22:38:35] *** sparkleytone has 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procmail entry can pipe the email through an arbitary script including php[23:14:28] <Danielss89> do you know guide on how to set something like that up? I already have psotfix installed with virtual users[23:17:19] *** AgraWork has quit IRC[23:17:37] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[23:23:08] <dragonheart> Danielss89: i don't have it availabel to me at the moment - look for some mail delivery to procmail doco and it should be there[23:27:50] *** lunaphyte has quit IRC[23:29:02] <rob0> A virtual user can't run a shell command. This is a drawback of using virtual delivery. If you want more features, that's what local(8) is for.[23:29:28] <rob0> You can play around with setting up a pipe(8) transport if you want. Don't ask me for help.[23:30:09] <adaptr> rob0++[23:30:20] <adaptr> why didn't I think of that![23:30:22] <rob0> The simplest solution is to use virtual_alias_maps to redirect a virtual(8) address to a local one.[23:30:51] <rob0> (or to an alias)[23:34:33] <rob0> It's just a pet peeve of mine. Everybody and his brother thinks he has to have virtual mailboxes, even when serving just a handful of users and a single domain. 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