November 5, 2007 
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November 5, 2007 [00:06:06] *** rob0_ is now known as Oprah[00:06:27] *** Oprah is now known as rob0_[00:09:41] *** oates has joined #postfix[00:13:38] *** jcrites has joined #postfix[00:13:47] <jcrites> hey[00:13:56] <jcrites> how much mail can I expect a good performance machine with Postfix to deliver per hour?[00:16:08] *** brancaleone has quit IRC[00:16:45] <cafuego> Depends on whether it's a good performance laptop or a good performance multi-cpu multi-core box with SAN storage and lots of gb of ram that doesn't do anything else.[00:17:33] <jcrites> I'm just trying to get a benchmark.... on a dedicated server is it easy to get 500K/hr?[00:17:52] <jcrites> I could probably set up something like you described, if that was the way to do it[00:18:06] <jcrites> but I should also consider the price/performance of having a fleet of cheap machines :) I am just trying to get a baseline idea[00:19:12] <jcrites> the company I work for sends a large volume of subscription mail to its customers, and I think we spend more money on custom MTA stuff than we ought to[00:23:38] *** hemry has quit IRC[00:24:07] *** hemry has joined #postfix[00:24:30] *** oblio has joined #postfix[00:24:31] <oblio> hola[00:25:31] <oblio> if qmgr happens to be erroring with this, what might it indicate?[00:25:32] <oblio> status=deferred (delivery temporarily suspended: conversation with 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1] timed out while receiving the initial server greeting)[00:25:54] <oblio> who is qmgr trying to talk to that is timing out?[00:26:03] <oblio> port 25 seems fine and responsive[00:29:16] <jcrites> so anyone have an idea how much mail I could get per hour out of a dedicated postfix server?[00:30:37] *** oates is now known as oates|AFK[00:31:39] <hparker> jcrites: postfix has some testing programs, look for smtpsink and it's companion who' name escapes me atm[00:31:43] *** meandtheshell has quit IRC[00:31:55] *** oates|AFK has quit IRC[00:32:13] <hparker> oblio: My first guess is a content filter considering the IP[00:32:57] <rob0> Talk to that guy who runs 127.0.0.1[00:33:40] * hparker thought rob0 ran 127.0.0.1... damnit, google failed me again[00:41:36] <tshine> 127.0.0.1 is a labor of love. We ALL run it. It's just THAT special :)[00:42:17] <oblio> hparker: yeah.. amavis is being a tardo it would appear[00:42:36] <oblio> i just commented out the content-filter for now[00:42:47] <oblio> looks like i'm at least delivering mail now[00:42:48] <oblio> yayz[00:43:23] <hparker> eww.. unfiltered mail... My phone would cry in pain if I did that[00:44:00] <oblio> spamd is still going[00:44:44] *** war has quit IRC[00:45:52] <hparker> Oh, I use spamassasssin in amavisd-new, more flexible that way imo[00:46:20] <oblio> the primary mail server is a sloth[00:55:15] *** roe has joined #postfix[00:55:22] *** roe_ has quit IRC[00:58:42] *** hemry has quit IRC[00:59:08] *** hemry has joined #postfix[01:11:54] *** djs_2_6 has joined #postfix[01:12:48] *** zention has joined #postfix[01:13:00] *** hemry has quit IRC[01:13:53] <zention> I have got a remote server running postfix - I don't have many users just me really - is there a quick way to setup a secure link for retrieving mail?[01:14:27] <zention> at the mo I am just sshing and using mail :) but I would like to retrieve the mail to the lan[01:15:01] <zention> in the past I have used various web based setups using ssl to keep the connection and login secure[01:16:31] <zention> something over ssh would be a good solution[01:17:22] <zention> or perhaps I just run a mail server locally and retrieve but then I would have to open the firewall[01:17:38] <rob0> Retrieving mail would be an IMAP thing, i.e., not Postfix.[01:17:48] <zention> s/retrieve/push to/[01:18:10] <zention> yeah I thought it would need something extra[01:18:26] <zention> I just want that extra thing to be liteweight[01:18:30] <zention> and secure[01:21:30] <rob0> If you run a Postfix at home, you could relay to it, relay_domains.[01:22:05] *** duki has quit IRC[01:22:10] <rob0> (that's what I do)[01:22:18] <zention> are you behind a firewall?[01:22:30] <rob0> and yes, TLS is not very difficult to set up.[01:23:04] <zention> I am not so concerned about the mail being encrypted moreso the login details[01:23:41] <zention> but hey really mail should be encrytped[01:24:01] <zention> are many ISPs using TLS?[01:25:20] <zention> yeah I think a secure relay is probably what I want thanks rob0[01:26:17] <rob0> As far as opening the firewall is concerned, you only need one port opened to one host, which you presumably control.[01:26:36] <zention> I am assuming I can trigger the relay[01:27:00] <zention> so just connect from the lan via the lan's external ip onto the remote machine[01:27:06] <rob0> home isn't online full-time? See ETRN_README.[01:27:07] *** theblackbox has quit IRC[01:27:24] <zention> rob0: yeah lan is not on all the time[01:29:59] <zention> anyway some bed time reading thanks again[01:30:02] *** zention has quit IRC[01:30:54] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[01:45:05] *** Mavvie_ has joined #postfix[01:54:23] *** Mavvie has quit IRC[01:55:57] *** Mavvie_ is now known as Mavvie[02:05:49] *** noodl has joined #postfix[02:09:35] *** roe has quit IRC[02:10:44] *** roe_ has joined #postfix[02:10:46] *** x-ip has joined #postfix[02:30:36] *** pirho has quit IRC[02:32:20] *** wdp has quit IRC[02:32:40] *** menace has quit IRC[02:34:54] *** pitakill_ has joined #postfix[02:37:58] *** k-man has joined #postfix[02:38:29] <k-man> how can i set up postfix to filter emails that contain virus? or virii?[02:40:28] * hparker uses clamav called from amavisd-new[02:43:36] <shasta> ... which is quite a common setup[02:43:42] <k-man> ok[02:43:51] <k-man> is there a guide to that you can recommend?[02:44:28] <hparker> both postfix and amavisd-new have docs covering how to implement that[02:44:37] <k-man> thanks[02:44:49] <hparker> shasta: c'mon, i wanna feel special ;)[02:45:24] <shasta> not this time, sorry (-;[02:46:03] <hparker> heh[02:48:23] *** internat2 has joined #postfix[02:51:12] <k-man> hparker, so when it detects a virus, does it just not send that email? or does it inform the receiver somehow? or what?[02:51:26] <shasta> depends on how you configure it[02:51:30] <shasta> read the docs :)[02:51:42] <shasta> hparker, if you want to feel special, run qmail (-8[02:52:57] <hparker> that would qualify me as one of Jerry's Kids, yes[02:53:55] <rob0> I was just looking at qmail.org[02:54:40] <rob0> "[Daniel J. Bernstein] has three suggestions for allowing your users to relay when they're not at a known IP address (which is the FAQ 5.4 solution):"[02:54:48] <rob0> Incredibly LAME.[02:55:37] <rob0> One of the suggestions wasn't lame, but it isn't practical. That was to use PGP signatures for relay auth.[02:56:09] <hparker> hey Mr. CEO, I need your PGP key[02:56:48] <rob0> The other 2 suggestions were plain old security-through-obscurity BS.[02:56:58] <hparker> imagine that[02:58:39] *** pitakill has quit IRC[03:05:02] *** internat85 has quit IRC[03:05:26] *** Tachy has joined #postfix[03:17:09] *** x-ip has quit IRC[03:19:32] *** Tachy_ has quit IRC[03:28:28] *** djs_2_6 has quit IRC[03:45:08] *** noodlet has joined #postfix[03:51:55] *** pitakill_ is now known as pitakill[03:56:06] *** noodl has quit IRC[04:03:24] *** noodlet has quit IRC[04:16:32] *** internat85 has joined #postfix[04:23:02] *** darkphader has joined #postfix[04:32:25] *** darkphader has quit IRC[04:32:28] *** internat2 has quit IRC[04:46:53] *** Motoko-chan has joined #postfix[05:09:22] *** veepster has joined #postfix[05:13:40] *** higuita has joined #postfix[05:24:18] *** pitakill has quit IRC[05:24:35] *** kamihacker has joined #postfix[05:57:53] *** solar_ant has joined #postfix[06:09:22] *** cilly has quit IRC[06:09:53] *** cilly has joined #postfix[06:10:29] *** deevil has joined #postfix[06:12:28] <deevil> hi, I have 2 sequential ip addresses configured on the same nic, and I want postfix to bind itself only to the higher number ip, so I put that ip in inet_interfaces and "netstat -na | grep .25" shows that it's listening on that ip, but when the machine sends mail, it connects to their server from the lower ip..?[06:12:55] <hparker> there's like bind_ip or something[06:13:11] <deevil> oh, thanks, I'll look into that[06:13:56] <deevil> hrmm. don't see "bind" in the conf[06:16:01] *** fluffles has joined #postfix[06:16:16] <fluffles> hi, can i make postfix listen on another port than the default 25?[06:16:25] <fluffles> i do not see a "listen" or "bind" option in main.cf[06:16:36] <fluffles> like in httpd.conf[06:16:55] <hparker> what problem are you trying to solve?[06:17:13] <fluffles> i want to test the config before i replace the current SMTP daemon (exim)[06:17:37] <fluffles> so see if i can login witht he same passwords etc, if it works well, ill let it run on port 25 instead so it fluently can replace my old daemon[06:17:51] <hparker> I would enable submission and test it there[06:18:06] <fluffles> submission?[06:18:16] <fluffles> is there no way to let postfix run on another port than 25?[06:18:48] <hparker> The submission port is 567 iirc.. Standard port for remote auth[06:20:14] <fluffles> i dont know what submission is, i do know that SMTP is port 25, and i was hoping i could (temporarily) change that to 26 or so, so i wouldn't have to kill off my old smtp server while testing this new postfix daemon[06:21:45] <deevil> I'm not sure this'll work, but it should..? add an "smtp-test" entry in /etc/services with the port you'd like to use, and change "smtp" in master.cf to "smtp-test"[06:21:57] <f3ew> fluffles submission is 587[06:23:26] <fluffles> f3ew: ok but if i run postfix now it'll try to bind to port 25, which is not possible because another daemon is bound to that port on this interface.[06:23:31] <fluffles> deevil: thanks ill try that![06:31:17] *** kk_CHN has joined #postfix[06:32:35] *** hparker has quit IRC[06:32:45] <fluffles> f3ew: that worked! its now running at port 26, thanks :)[06:32:52] <deevil> can anyone help with making postfix send from a specific ip on my machine.? it's listening on the ip i'd like it to, but it's sending from the other ip[06:33:02] <fluffles> deevil i mean[06:33:15] <f3ew> deevil smtp_bind_address[06:33:15] <deevil> fluffles: cool, glad it worked[06:33:24] <deevil> f3ew, thanks!![06:36:05] *** hparker has joined #postfix[06:37:18] <deevil> f3ew: thanks, that seems to have done the trick!![06:37:46] *** sh0wt1me has joined #postfix[06:41:42] *** deevil has quit IRC[06:43:13] *** githogori has joined #postfix[06:43:24] *** githogori has quit IRC[06:43:26] *** githogori_ has joined #postfix[06:49:33] *** keanne has joined #postfix[06:56:15] *** Aletheuo has joined #postfix[06:59:25] <Aletheuo> I've got a box with 4 ip's, with postfix configured to relay inbound for 4 email domains, how do I get postfix to send out email for each email domain on its own unique ip?[07:01:37] * hparker thinks that would require 4 different postfix instances[07:01:57] <Aletheuo> ah, I was hoping to avoid that if its possible[07:02:25] <Aletheuo> that would mean 4 instances of postfix / amavisd-new / spamassassin / clamav too right?[07:02:39] <hparker> I'm not sure on that part[07:03:22] <Aletheuo> the reason I'm having to do this is so that each outbound email looks like it came from its down domain/ip etc[07:03:48] <Aletheuo> *own[07:03:56] <hparker> Yeah, figured as much... Not sure why it'd make a bit of difference, but whatever ;)[07:04:44] <Aletheuo> to prevent recipients from thinking its spam or raising suspicion on their end, if an email arrived from a domain that didn't reverse back to the same domain/ip[07:05:17] <hparker> i host ~30 domains on one IP without problems... Other then the normal problem sites like hotmail[07:05:59] <hparker> As long as helo, dns, and rDNS match there should be no suspicion[07:06:23] *** DarklyCute has joined #postfix[07:06:39] <Aletheuo> how do you get helo to match, won't it helo the 1st domain only?[07:07:12] <hparker> my helo == dns == rDNS[07:07:40] <hparker> As long as those pass it shouldn't matter about domains within the email[07:08:00] <Aletheuo> what issue are you having with hotmail?[07:08:23] *** DarklyCute has quit IRC[07:08:59] <hparker> the same as everyone else... some email makes it.. some ends up in junk.. And some is never seen again[07:10:00] <hparker> I just explain to anyone that asks that hotmail shouldn't be used for anything beyond forwarding jokes, smoke signals are more likely to make it to the recipient[07:10:20] <Aletheuo> hehe[07:10:33] <Aletheuo> ic[07:10:34] <hparker> And yet my brother keeps using them... oh well[07:10:48] <Aletheuo> so hotmail hasn't gotten into dkim yet I guess[07:10:53] <hparker> We talk on the phone often enough it's not a problem[07:11:08] <hparker> Not sure if they've adopted it or not[07:11:30] <hparker> i've not even thought about adding it yet as it's been too much of a moving target[07:11:56] <Aletheuo> its another one of my projects[07:13:14] <Aletheuo> my boss wants our postfix box to answer for multiple domains, but each domain on its own ip, I gotta figure that out[07:13:35] <Aletheuo> receiving is simple, just have postfix listen on all interfaces, its the sending thats tough[07:14:25] <hparker> Have you searched the list yet? It comes up there, that's where I heard about multiple instances at[07:15:21] <Aletheuo> no I haven't yet, I guess I'll check there now[07:15:45] <Aletheuo> I guess most are asleep on here right now hehe, wish I was too actually[07:16:16] <hparker> yeah, just after midnight here.. not sure how much longer i'm going to be here[07:17:26] <Aletheuo> you must be central aswell, feels like 1:17am actually if it wasn't for the time change[07:18:00] <hparker> heh.. yeah.. watched it be 1am twice last night.. was a lot tireder the second time for some reason[07:18:37] <Aletheuo> hehe[07:20:37] <Aletheuo> is there a searchable maillist?[07:20:58] <hparker> i think gmane and marc have an archive[07:21:05] <Aletheuo> k[07:29:02] *** Motoko-chan has quit IRC[07:38:16] *** diveli has quit IRC[07:43:09] *** hparker has quit IRC[08:05:09] *** felix_da_catz has quit IRC[08:11:54] *** Zeit|awy has quit IRC[08:21:50] <Aletheuo> I wonder if multiple postfix instances on different ip's on the same box, could all use 1 amavisd-new / spamassassin / clamav etc[08:25:27] <f3ew> yes[08:26:15] <Aletheuo> k good to know, I need to setup multiple postfix instances on different ip's for hosting multi-domains[08:27:14] *** Lap_64 has joined #postfix[08:31:45] *** cutmasta has joined #postfix[08:31:58] *** duki has joined #postfix[08:37:00] <fluffles> offtopic: i just removed 89775 spam messages from all my mail accounts :S[08:37:09] <fluffles> now using postfix with spamcop, hope it helps :)[08:37:57] *** die_z has joined #postfix[08:47:39] *** Lap_64 has quit IRC[08:48:02] *** duki has quit IRC[09:22:45] *** roxlu_ has joined #postfix[09:22:46] <roxlu_> hi[09:23:31] <roxlu_> I've got a really strange thing here. When I send a mail to user at a dot com it receives the mail. But, when I create a alias info at b dot com -> info at a dot com the mail is rejected by a.com ???[09:24:11] <roxlu_> and gives me this error: 550 5.7.1 Requested action not taken: message refused (in reply to end of DATA command)[09:29:40] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[09:35:32] *** Zeit|idle has joined #postfix[09:37:50] *** mark-use has joined #postfix[09:38:13][09:47:22] <roxlu_> :-)[09:47:38] *** UQlev has quit IRC[09:53:01] *** harobed has joined #postfix[09:55:06] *** lennard has quit IRC[09:56:47] *** lennard has joined #postfix[09:58:09] <mark-use> I get crazy with smtpd-auth over sasl2 with md5-passwords from mysql[09:58:19] <mark-use> is this working?[10:00:03] <kimmey2k3> ye, how to do it? i endend up with cleartext passwords and ssl for this[10:00:35] *** war has joined #postfix[10:02:08] <mark-use> kimmey2k3, I'm at the point thinking about this 8-)[10:03:45] <mark-use> ok, now I backupped the "mailserver-jail" and try that[10:04:07] <mark-use> damn, changing l cfg's again, what a boring job[10:07:14] *** amrit is now known as amrit|zzz[10:13:37] *** lennard has quit IRC[10:14:18] <mark-use> postfix/smtpd[77163]: warning: SASL authentication problem: unknown password verifier[10:14:25] <mark-use> where do I configure this?[10:15:55] *** prebur has quit IRC[10:15:55] *** lennard has joined #postfix[10:16:06] *** Roobarb-Work has joined #postfix[10:20:44] *** zoggy has joined #postfix[10:21:47] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[10:22:35] <dragonheart> why would a milter application _abort (at EOM) when a _envrcpt handler is added (and never called by milter) and when _envrcpt is set to null it processes though the milter chain nicely[10:22:59] <zoggy> good morning, sorry to bother, please could someone point me in the right direction. i'm not sure what to google for, but we have 2 mail servers, setup so that one is a satellite to the other, mail on the primary mail server goes immediately, but the mail from the satellite takes literally hours. where could i even start to research this? thanks in advance[10:23:54] <dragonheart> what do the logs on the second server say? whats the configuration of the second server?[10:23:57] <zoggy> ..even if i could just do some debugging on one email, i might be able to track it down, but i'm not sure where/how to achieve that[10:24:16] <zoggy> thanks dragonheart, i'll get that stuff together quick[10:24:17] <dragonheart> logs are good start[10:29:30] <zoggy> dragonheart: i am tailing /var/log/mail.err as well as /var/log/mail, while sending from the satellite server, but get no messages regarding this mail??[10:29:34] <zoggy> i'm confused[10:29:55] <zoggy> my main.cf on the satellite is very simple, may i paste it somewhere?[10:30:40] <dragonheart> !pastebin[10:30:41] <knoba> dragonheart: "pastebin" : a way to paste larger amounts of text so that other people can read it. Try http://www.rafb.net/paste/ or http://paste.debian.net/ - Do not forget to tell us the URL where you pasted it.[10:34:18] <zoggy> great thanks[10:35:49] <zoggy> dragonheart: http://rafb.net/p/BUdvh979.html[10:35:56] <zoggy> (thanks!!)[10:39:22] <zoggy> dragonheart: an excerpt fromm the logs of the satellite server: http://rafb.net/p/4eeYXN63.html[10:39:43] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[10:39:56] <zoggy> (which is from /var/log/mail.info)[10:41:57] *** Edward123 has joined #postfix[10:43:11] <zoggy> dragonheart: and here is the main.cf from the primary mail server: http://rafb.net/p/HHizLb53.html (in case it makes it any easier to figure out stuff)[10:48:53] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[10:49:20] <shinao1> hi.. i hope someone here has the time for a very silly noob.. ive been trying to setup postfix on a rpm-based distro called startcom linux. i need postfix to be able to connect to ldap on my samba-domain, and then send the local emails to the recipients email directory in /home/vmail/$user, and for the user to pick it up with dovecot. Dovecot also queries the ldap domain to ascertain that the user exists on the system.but ive become thoroughly confused.[10:49:22] <shinao1> . postix accepts the emails and puts it in the queue, and i can neither see the emails in the external mail addresses ive been sending to, and i cant see the emails sent to local users either, in vmail? I wonder if someone can take a look at my main.cf and help recommend changes, or tell me what i should really be doing! :) id be very grateful. ive spent a great amount of time on this and i seem to be heading nowhere.[10:50:34] <shinao1> id be happy to pastebin it for any lifesaver out there :)[10:50:43] *** wsxws has joined #postfix[10:50:47] <wsxws> hi all[10:52:37] *** meandtheshell has joined #postfix[10:53:26] <wsxws> i installed postfix/cyrus/pam.d/sasl/postgrey (all running fine), i also installed amavis, spamassassin and clamav, but amavis ist always causinf errors (like spamassassin is scanning but not writing headers and there a preresistant right probs in writing into the temp patz for clamav) ist the an alternative i/o like amavis i counld try ?[10:57:13] *** prebur has joined #postfix[10:58:57] <dragonheart> wsxws: their is a smtp content filter addon for spamassassin[10:59:38] <dragonheart> shinao1: pastebin it and we;ll look[11:00:56] <shinao1> thank you dragonheart : the link is http://pastebin.ca/762061[11:01:15] <shinao1> my main.cf is on http://pastebin.ca/762061[11:03:09] <dragonheart> shinao1: mbox or maildir?[11:03:29] <shinao1> maildir dragonheart[11:06:00] <dragonheart> shinao1: have you used postmap to check ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap-users.cf?[11:06:03] <wsxws> sorry, i have been on phine[11:06:50] <idioterna> what's a phine? :)[11:06:57] <wsxws> amavis is managing the i/o clamav and spammassassin to postfix, im lokking for a similir tool or a way to add clamav and spammassassin without anny tool[11:07:07] <wsxws> phine is a typo of phone :P[11:07:34] <dragonheart> wsxws: there is a smtp content filter addon for spamassassin[11:08:10] <shinao1> no i havent dragonheart[11:08:42] <shinao1> but i think it works ok.. it used to tell me unknown recipient ...[11:08:47] <shinao1> but now it doesnt[11:09:03] <shinao1> can you please tell me how to check?[11:09:11] *** die_z has quit IRC[11:09:21] <dragonheart> so your looking up a recipent email address and it should return $user[11:10:04] *** die_z has joined #postfix[11:10:05] <dragonheart> postmap -q recip at domain dot com ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap-users.cf[11:10:13] <shinao1> ok[11:10:55] <shinao1> yes it does return the username of the user dragonheart[11:10:58] <shinao1> i just checked[11:11:07] <shinao1> i get recip back[11:11:48] *** af_ has joined #postfix[11:12:42] <shinao1> i have a question.. checking uid/gid of vmail in the computer returns : vmail:x:100:101::/home/vmail:/bin/bash[11:12:51] <wsxws> hm, i c u the first time in here and maybe u can simply help me fox my my majorprb in amavis/clamav installtion[11:12:54] <wsxws> Nov 5 10:59:18 static amavis[11620]: (11620-09) (!!) ask_av (ClamAV-clamd) FAILED - unexpected result: /var/lib/amavis/tmp/amavis-20071105T010542-11620/parts: lstat() failed. ERROR\n[11:13:38] <wsxws> this is a problem of rights, when i (just for testing) set chmod -R 777 /var/lib/amavis/tmp it works without errors (just for a while though)[11:13:42] <shinao1> isnt that whats supposed to be in the main.cf under minimum_uid/gid dragonheart ?[11:14:25] <sysmonk> wsxws: both amavis and amavisd should be using the same uid/gid, check the configs[11:17:30] *** cpm has joined #postfix[11:20:17] <wsxws> amavis is user amavis group clamav and clamav is user clamav and group amavis[11:20:20] <f3ew> hey cpm[11:20:29] <wsxws> what to change into what here ?[11:20:31] <cpm> morn'n f3ew[11:22:11] *** tris has joined #postfix[11:22:35] <sysmonk> wsxws: set them both to the same user and group[11:22:52] *** af_ has quit IRC[11:22:57] <wsxws> how to change the user of one of them ?[11:23:08] <sysmonk> wsxws: edit the config files?[11:23:41] <sysmonk> heya there cpm, f3ew[11:23:50] <cpm> morn'n sysmonk[11:24:11] <sysmonk> not really morning anymore here :P[11:26:29] *** havvg has joined #postfix[11:27:16] *** Sitting_Bull has joined #postfix[11:27:21] <Sitting_Bull> hi all[11:27:57] <Sitting_Bull> is there a way to ger postfix to create the mail user's folders with mode 770 automatically?[11:28:02] <Sitting_Bull> *get[11:28:37] <Sitting_Bull> dovecot seem to want 770 set to the mailfolders of the users to be able to access it[11:28:57] <Sitting_Bull> or can i change something in dovecot that anybody know of?[11:29:45] <zoggy> dragonheart: regarding the primary and satellite postfix server conf issue that i mentioned earlier, did my confs look ok?[11:30:22] <dragonheart> Sitting_Bull: umask setting?[11:31:07] <Sitting_Bull> sorry dragonheart, could you explain i'm new to postfix ;)[11:31:31] *** duki has joined #postfix[11:32:08] <dragonheart> Sitting_Bull: look for a umask setting in dovecot[11:32:49] <Sitting_Bull> k thanks dragonheart[11:32:56] <Sitting_Bull> will check it out[11:33:36] <shinao1> hey dragonheart : any joy ? :)[11:34:00] <dragonheart> zoggy: no - but mroe logs[11:34:18] <dragonheart> btw peoples i'm trying to solve some of my own faults too[11:35:11] <dragonheart> shinao1: you can read the manual on minimum_uid as well as i can[11:37:16] <shinao1> ok[11:37:21] <shinao1> thanks anyway :)[11:37:30] <shinao1> but does my main.cf check out?[11:39:07] <dragonheart> shinao1: check default minium gid value and if it above 101 that could be your cause[11:39:20] <dragonheart> postconfig -n | fgrep minium[11:39:27] <dragonheart> postconf-n | fgrep minium[11:39:34] <wsxws> hm, that have been easy, whysoever that isnt in the howtow i sfound so far[11:39:35] <dragonheart> omit -n too[11:40:00] <wsxws> so just opne problem is still there, spamassassin ist filtering but does not modify the header[11:42:31] *** duki has quit IRC[11:50:43] *** lennard has quit IRC[11:52:38] *** wdp has joined #postfix[12:01:57] *** kk_CHN has quit IRC[12:04:16] *** Lap_64 has joined #postfix[12:12:24] *** weggpod has joined #postfix[12:12:39] *** weggpod has joined #postfix[12:13:27] *** havvg has quit IRC[12:14:40] *** Jax has joined #postfix[12:20:19] *** lennard has joined #postfix[12:25:33] *** havvg has joined #postfix[12:26:52] <zoggy> dragonheart: thanks for the attempted help, i really do appreciate it.. i'll keep searching and see what comes up[12:27:23] *** ramoni has joined #postfix[12:28:30] *** Jax has quit IRC[12:29:59] *** die_z|away has joined #postfix[12:30:59] *** die_z has quit IRC[12:36:33] *** Sitting_Bull has left #postfix[12:46:50] *** etaylor has quit IRC[12:47:27] *** etaylor has joined #postfix[12:49:52] *** zoggy has left #postfix[12:51:04] *** etaylor has quit IRC[12:51:46] *** etaylor has joined #postfix[12:54:34] <Edward123> hey - deliveries to root at eddnux dot office (my default domain) are failing, probably because i've messed something up with my ldap/virtual users setup[12:56:09] <Edward123> here's a swathe from my logfile: http://www.pastebin.ca/762121[13:00:33] <Edward123> hrm as the message suggests it is a problem from ldap (SEARCH RESULT tag=101 err=80 nentries=0 text=internal error) - error 80, i'll look that up[13:11:17] *** bronb has joined #postfix[13:13:45] *** x-ip has joined #postfix[13:21:49] *** havvg has quit IRC[13:24:04] *** Jax has joined #postfix[13:25:00] <Jax> hey guys, i got a new server just for mail and would like to transfer all my mails to the new server. what's the easiest way to do this? the accounts are all maildir format[13:30:33] *** die_z|away is now known as die_z[13:32:31] *** UQlev has quit IRC[13:41:39] *** tenfjord has joined #postfix[13:46:14] *** L|NUX has joined #postfix[13:52:52] <shasta> rsync, probably[13:55:15] <memic> or create a tar.gz & copy[13:57:26] <rob0> old:# tar zc /path/to/mail | nc newhost 1111 ... new:# cd /new/path/to/mail ; nc -l -p 1111 | tar zx[14:04:16] <cpm> tar cf - mailstuff | ssh oldserver " ( cd /yer/mail/path ; tar xf - ) " ssh oldserver "( cd /somewhere ; tar cf - something ) " | tar xf -[14:04:17] <cpm> or something like that[14:06:54] * rob0 likes nc (if you need encryption, pipe through gpg(1))[14:07:28] <cpm> you always need encryption, unless you are rob0[14:07:48] <cpm> ssh is just a handy tool, not as handy as nc, but still, pretty handy[14:10:52] <wsxws> hm[14:11:10] <wsxws> so, meanwhile the amount of errors in my logs come closer to 0[14:11:10] *** tenfjord has quit IRC[14:12:07] <wsxws> now i got one left[14:12:32] <wsxws> syslog tells me the emailaccount root@mymaildomainhere does not exist[14:13:31] <wsxws> when i try to create that mailbox using my webcyradmin it denies to do so, it says its a reserverd emailadress[14:13:38] <wsxws> so how to create thatone ?[14:13:56] <wsxws> (im using postfix,cyrus/pam.d sasl with mysql[14:15:33] *** Ryushin has quit IRC[14:16:35] *** mark-use has quit IRC[14:27:33] <Jax> thx for that rob0 / cpm[14:30:51] *** brancaleone has joined #postfix[14:31:32] <rob0> wsxws: This support forum sucks, remember?[14:32:01] *** x-ip has quit IRC[14:32:16] <rob0> Don't go throwing childish little fits and think no one will remember.[14:32:24] <Jax> haha[14:32:45] <sysmonk> ye, and i do suck too[14:33:01] <sysmonk> and i don't read what wsxws says and etc ( remembering our talk few days ago)[14:33:41] <rob0> I didn't /ignore him then because I figured this opportunity would present itself. :)[14:34:09] *** Danielss89 has joined #postfix[14:35:00] *** Danielss89 has left #postfix[14:35:56] <wsxws> i did not ever think none here would remeber[14:36:21] <wsxws> and sysmonk, u neither read the circumstances properly nor did u know an answer[14:37:05] *** shasta has quit IRC[14:37:08] <wsxws> and sorry, but if u ask a total of 5 questions and only one of them becomes answered it be be frustrating[14:37:17] <wsxws> +can[14:38:20] <rob0> Here's a lesson, then. IRC does not revolve around you. People have jobs and responsibilities. Be thankful and consider yourself lucky for ANYTHING you get.[14:38:20] <wsxws> the first really usefull answaer has been that one with the users and groupd of clamav and amavis (is came from sysmonk) and i really appreceate thatone[14:39:02] <rob0> You were asking way off-topic questions, like how to manage your distro.[14:39:16] <wsxws> im on irc for 11 years now and have been used to hel in 'help on dalnet for 6 years, i still help users on irc on another network and i know that this all all volunteers[14:39:42] <wsxws> secand all should be an are[14:40:47] <cpm> 'secand all should be an are' ?? WTF?[14:40:52] <wsxws> and i did not think thos question would be that out of topic cause they all belong to this postfix-based emailsystem[14:41:15] <wsxws> cpm that shopuld have been the corrention for the sentence before[14:41:47] <wsxws> all all volunteers = all are volunteers[14:44:06] <wsxws> i meanwhile fixed all problems which appeared by myself (exept that one sysmonk helped, thanks again) and the last error over here is a postfix-error[14:44:46] <wsxws> according to the log : static postfix/pipe[14:48:17] <rob0> Anyway, not that you deserve an answer, but the proper way to handle mail to root is via aliases(5). And I have no idea about Cyrus.[14:50:09] <wsxws> i guess the most of u already has been pissed because of nonworking configfiles for hours too, so if i offend u i herewithin appologize for that[14:50:28] <wsxws> (took a bit longer, i had to search the dictonary for that word)[14:52:26] *** Signum has quit IRC[14:52:33] *** Signum has joined #postfix[14:52:58] <rob0> My mail is working fine, thanks. :)[14:57:03] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[15:00:25] *** Ryushin has joined #postfix[15:01:44] *** havvg has joined #postfix[15:05:20] *** shasta has joined #postfix[15:17:44] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[15:22:51] *** amaia has joined #postfix[15:24:25] <amaia> hi everyone... i have a problem: when i try to send an e-mail to an allusers@ list, my server stops responding because postfix opens a large number of "local" processes and the uptime rises to 60 for a few minutes[15:24:31] <amaia> is there a way to prevent this?[15:25:19] <amaia> i think what is happening is that postfix tries to deliver the e-mail to all users at the same time and opens hundreds of simultaneous processes that hang the machine[15:28:11] <kamihacker> I am not familiar with postfix[15:28:16] <kamihacker> but google using the keywords[15:28:22] <kamihacker> postfix throttling[15:28:29] <kamihacker> postfix process throttling[15:28:44] *** felix_da_catz has joined #postfix[15:31:45] <amaia> kamihacker, txs, but unfortunately i dont find anything relevant at google[15:32:01] <cpm> amaia, local users?[15:32:18] <amaia> cpm, yes, local users[15:32:19] *** solar_ant has quit IRC[15:32:21] <kamihacker> amaia, did you read/skim all the possible commands on main.cf for postfix ?[15:32:40] <cpm> amaia,[15:33:05] <cpm> set your local_destination_concurrency_limit to something like 2 and stop and then start postfix and try again.[15:33:36] <cpm> also, what says;[15:33:39] <cpm> postconf default_destination_concurrency_limit[15:33:40] <cpm> ?[15:34:01] <amaia> 20[15:34:28] <cpm> k[15:34:38] <amaia> the local_destination_concurrency_limit is already set at 2 by default[15:34:45] <cpm> k[15:34:47] <amaia> i ran postconf local_destination_concurrency_limit[15:35:06] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[15:35:07] <amaia> so, it shouldnt be because of that, right?[15:35:12] <cpm> nope.[15:35:53] <cpm> however, it should only attempt 2 local destinations per[15:35:56] <cpm> not hundreds[15:36:13] <amaia> and, what is the default_destination_concurrency_limit for?[15:36:14] <cpm> what's this '@list' bit? Are you using a list manager of some kind?[15:38:03] <amaia> mailman[15:38:17] <amaia> but the processes that i see at "top" are from user "postfix"[15:42:01] <amaia> cpm, "The local_destination_concurrency_limit parameter controls how many messages are delivered simultaneously to the same local recipient." this is for user.... my destination is 1000+ different users, so this setting doesnt apply[15:44:18] <cpm> ah, yes.[15:44:26] <cpm> there is one just for mailman though.[15:44:43] <cpm> do you have a mailman transport set?[15:45:35] <Edward123> hrm i think i've somehow broken postfix's access to the lmtp socket, i don't see how though, it's got rwx for everyone: srwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Nov 6 2007 lmtp[15:46:13] <cpm> amaia, are you using the postfix to mailman py script?[15:46:27] <amaia> cpm, i think not... i have the default instalation... the mail is delivered via the /etc/aliases to mailman: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman"[15:46:50] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[15:48:25] *** Jax has quit IRC[15:49:14] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[15:49:31] <amaia> cpm, what's the postfix to mailman py script?[15:49:32] <cpm> amaia, try this[15:49:35] <cpm> mailman_destination_recipient_limit = 1[15:49:44] <cpm> stop and then start postfix (not reload)[15:49:47] <cpm> and try again[15:49:56] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[15:50:59] <amaia> here it goes[15:51:16] *** bronb has quit IRC[15:51:25] * cpm crosses fingers[15:51:57] <amaia> me too :)[15:52:10] *** mark-use has joined #postfix[15:52:30] <amaia> nope, same thing[15:53:27] <amaia> i see a bunch of clamav processes beeing created too[15:53:39] <amaia> could it be related to that too?[15:53:56] <amaia> relay=clamav, delay=147, status=sent (clamav)[15:55:30] <cpm> how are you launching into clam? using amavis? or doing it some other way?[15:55:58] <cpm> I do not have this issue. The largest mailing list I have is only about 1200 members, and postings come and go. No biggie[15:56:09] <cpm> they just kinda chunk on through,[15:57:39] <cpm> but then again,[15:57:44] <cpm> I don't have any local users.[15:58:58] <amaia> cpm, i think the problem is really about they beeing local -> the hard disk doesn't handle the i/o[15:59:29] <cpm> could be.[15:59:47] <cpm> when you see those loads of 60, where is the issue? Is it in cpu? or iowait?[16:02:13] <amaia> iowait[16:02:42] <cpm> ah[16:02:49] <cpm> well, go to a raid[16:02:50] <cpm> :)[16:03:28] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[16:04:38] <cpm> would still be nice to somehow tune it better[16:04:41] <cpm> take a look at[16:04:43] <cpm> http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq06.004.htp[16:04:55] <cpm> scroll down to the mailman section[16:05:29] <cpm> but you're not having that kind of issue.[16:05:30] *** shinao1 has joined #postfix[16:05:45] <cpm> your issue is in the ability of the file system to take the messages, yes?[16:10:43] *** ^Willie^Laptop has joined #postfix[16:11:18] <amaia> cpm, yes... thats the problem... and I already have a RAID on the system :)[16:11:19] <^Willie^Laptop> hi there[16:11:26] *** lee has quit IRC[16:11:29] <^Willie^Laptop> can someone explane me something about the content filters ?[16:12:28] <amaia> cpm, this page is nice... the default_process_limit = 150 may be interesting[16:13:29] <^Willie^Laptop> i use the before-queue content filter feature[16:14:33] *** x-ip has joined #postfix[16:14:55] *** darkphader has joined #postfix[16:18:14] *** lee has joined #postfix[16:20:12] <wsxws> i just recieved a perlerror about missconfigured locales[16:20:36] <wsxws> id paste it if i would knew a pastebinaddy :)[16:21:12] <wsxws> http://de.pastebin.ca/762266[16:23:18] *** lee has quit IRC[16:24:39] *** cutmasta has quit IRC[16:25:26] <wsxws> oops, sorry, wrong channel[16:26:56] *** lee has joined #postfix[16:30:18] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[16:31:32] *** wsxws has quit IRC[16:31:58] *** lee has quit IRC[16:41:00] *** staimeer has joined #postfix[16:43:31] *** ^Willie^Laptop has left #postfix[16:43:54] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[16:46:31] *** mark-use has quit IRC[16:50:05] <staimeer> I am having problems of sending email to hotmail[16:50:14] <staimeer> it always falls in the spam box, my MX and my dns are configured[16:50:23] <staimeer> correctly ?[16:50:30] <staimeer> Can anyone help me figuring this out?[16:51:59] *** j_s has joined #postfix[16:52:15] <tshine> staimeer: have you checked to make sure your IP(s) aren't on any blacklists?[16:52:35] <tshine> Also, do you have a rDNS for your domain as well as an SPF record?[16:53:39] <tshine> After that, likely causes are subject line and email content[16:54:37] *** kreg_lt has quit IRC[16:59:04] *** collink has joined #postfix[16:59:19] <collink> Hi, I'm getting this error: The IMAP command “UID COPY” (to Deleted Messages) failed for the mailbox “INBOX” with server error: Error in IMAP command received by server..[16:59:30] <collink> anyone know why this might be happenibg?[16:59:37] <collink> or happening[16:59:55] *** lee has joined #postfix[17:01:38] *** Lap_64 has quit IRC[17:03:09] *** collink has left #postfix[17:04:17] *** theblackbox has joined #postfix[17:08:33] *** amaia has quit IRC[17:12:03] *** AgraWork has joined #Postfix[17:16:07] *** vr has quit IRC[17:16:15] *** vr has joined #postfix[17:16:20] *** vr has joined #postfix[17:18:28] *** ramoni has quit IRC[17:33:13] *** sepski has joined #postfix[17:33:41] <staimeer> tshine[17:33:42] <staimeer> Not mentioned in any blacklist[17:34:09] <tshine> how about your DNS records. Everything good to go there?[17:36:34] <staimeer> tshine yes, Only the Hotmail, which falls in the box of spam[17:37:22] <staimeer> tshine Configure and recommended SPF?[17:38:36] <tshine> rDNS is more important than SPF[17:39:03] *** benp- has joined #postfix[17:42:47] <staimeer> tshine[17:42:48] <staimeer> I set the SPF to see if for the fall in spam[17:44:58] <tshine> staimeer: if your DNS stuff is set up good and you aren't on any blacklists (as you have confirmed) then it's either the subject line or the email body that's causing your mails to arrive in the spam folder[17:50:34] <staimeer> tshine The times the email passes, and the majority falls on spam[17:57:28] <staimeer> tshine sometimes the emails go directly to* inbox, but most of the times* go to the "spam" box[17:59:15] <tshine> have you tried to send just a regular text email ?[17:59:25] <tshine> And if so, does the same thing happen?[18:01:28] *** die_z has quit IRC[18:03:21] <staimeer> tshine Only a text not yet, I will try here[18:09:10] *** harobed has quit IRC[18:18:41] *** flami has joined #postfix[18:20:19] <flami> COuld it be that bayes_auto_learn 1 is ignored when i run Spamassassin with amavisd-new . I get spam witha score of 20 but i cant see any trace of it useing the autolearn.[18:22:02] *** L|NUX has quit IRC[18:24:03] *** githogori_ has quit IRC[18:24:50] <staimeer> tshine Just had a text and still falls on spam[18:26:48] *** shinao1 has quit IRC[18:31:08] *** titacgs has joined #postfix[18:35:15] *** titacgs has left #postfix[18:37:02] *** theblackbox has quit IRC[18:38:04] *** theblackbox has joined #postfix[18:39:43] *** cilly has quit IRC[18:40:13] *** cilly has joined #postfix[18:46:05] *** Sburk has quit IRC[18:47:29] *** brancaleone has quit IRC[18:50:38] <emo_ninja> I want have both an "internal" that does not pipe through a content filter and an "external" that does. I have set it up, and now I'd like to reject all mail that's sent to the internal address if its' not sasl authenticated[18:51:20] <emo_ninja> I'm not really sure how to force sasl authentication on _all_ email sent to the "internal" address[18:52:37] <emo_ninja> would I just change my: smtpd_client_restrictionspermit_sasl_authenticated, reject -- and can I do that in master.cf?[18:52:58] *** cilly has quit IRC[18:53:30] *** cilly has joined #postfix[18:56:17] *** Petaris has joined #postfix[18:56:31] <Petaris> Hello[18:58:06] <Petaris> I want to blacklist an email address for all of my users, I found instructions on how to do so but I have a question on them. They start out with a sender_access file then when specifying the check in main.cf they reference sender_checks file[18:58:52] <Petaris> The instructions given are as follows: create and edit /etc/postfix/sender_access[18:59:35] <Petaris> put the email address in -> someuser at somewhere dot com REJECT[18:59:56] <Petaris> save the file then issue: postmap hash:sender_access[19:00:25] <Petaris> open main.cf and add: smtpd_recipient_restrictions = check_sender_access hash:/etc/postfix/sender_checks[19:00:36] <Petaris> restart postfix[19:01:16] <Petaris> so is that correct or did they mean to use: hash:/etc/postfix/sender_access there?[19:06:23] <emo_ninja> they meant to use /etc/postfix/sender_access (or whatever file you created your map in)[19:06:29] <flami> I that should be sender_access . cant really use a file taht doesnt exist ^^[19:06:30] <Petaris> ahh[19:06:46] <Petaris> ok, just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything[19:06:57] <Petaris> Thanks guys (or girls)[19:08:30] <rob0> Petaris: you also must have relay control in smtpd_recipient_restrictions[19:08:33] <rob0> !access[19:08:33] <knoba> rob0: "access" : http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_ACCESS_README.html : An overview of access(5) controls in the Postfix smtpd(8) SMTP server.[19:09:37] * Petaris reads[19:12:16] <flami> Hum does Amavis give any feedback if it used bayes autolearn or not in spamassassin ? ( when i run spamassass -D -t on spam it does use it ) ... its just that on some spam ( 20+ points ) the bayes gives -2 points and no sign ( logs, headers ) of it useing autolearn[19:13:35] <flami> while trying to find that out i moved my DB to sql :P[19:15:14] <Petaris> rob0: I am not seeing a relay_control parameter[19:16:58] <Petaris> rob0: here is what I have for smtpd_recipient_restrictions[19:17:00] <Petaris> http://phpfi.com/274072[19:17:26] <Petaris> I am already using postgrey, policyd-weight, and dSPAM[19:17:47] * cpm controls rob0[19:17:54] *** jjshoe has joined #postfix[19:17:55] <jjshoe> is anyone aware of a way in postfix to limit emailing yourself from yourself to only be from your server? for ex. jjshoe at joel dot io can only email jjshoe at joel dot io if it was originated on joel.io?[19:18:50] *** L|NUX has joined #postfix[19:21:02] *** oomii has joined #postfix[19:21:27] <rob0> I did not say "relay_control". I did say "relay control". And in your case it's there, line 4, reject_unauth_destination. (BTW reject_unauth_pipelining is useless at that point.)[19:22:01] <rob0> !tell jjshoe access[19:22:02] *** x-spec-t is now known as Spec[19:23:07] <jjshoe> rob0 I[19:23:21] <jjshoe> rob0 I've seen this page before, can you be a little more specific in which section I should be reading into?[19:24:22] <Petaris> rob0: oh, sorry I miss read[19:24:27] <Petaris> Thanks for your help[19:27:42] <jjshoe> people seem to be suggesting things like SPF to do this :\[19:28:57] *** hparker has joined #postfix[19:31:02] *** thelostbutler has joined #postfix[19:31:44] <oomii> hey all.. i am quite n00bish and am trying to get postfix setup for a my vhosts on a VPS... where is the best place to start learning how to do this[19:32:54] *** thelostbutler has quit IRC[19:33:12] <tshine> oomii: http://www.postfix.org/docs.html has a good amount of tuts on getting started with postfix[19:33:46] <oomii> tshine: thanks... i am VERY new.. and not so linux saavy... you thin i should be able to do this?[19:34:33] <tshine> oomii: yes but I would recommend you read up a bit on basic linux commands just to be familiar[19:34:49] <oomii> thanks[19:35:11] <tshine> anytime :)[19:35:33] *** carl- has joined #postfix[19:35:53] *** fl4mi has joined #postfix[19:36:07] *** flami has quit IRC[19:37:44] *** flami has joined #postfix[19:38:32] *** thelostbutler has joined #postfix[19:47:20] *** amrit|zzz is now known as amrit|wrk[19:47:22] *** unixcoder has joined #postfix[19:47:26] <emo_ninja> hrm I really want to set up two ip addresses to listen on smtp, have one of them go through a content filter and one of them force sasl authenticaton to send ANY mail -- how would I do this[19:47:38] <emo_ninja> I have two set up and it works, but I can't seem to force one of them to require sasl[19:49:11] *** weggpod has quit IRC[19:51:59] <unixcoder> emo_ninja, well the one u want to filter just don't but in you 'mynetworks'[19:53:44] <unixcoder> *put[19:54:24] *** fl4mi has quit IRC[19:58:44] *** flami has quit IRC[20:03:40] *** jodi2 has joined #postfix[20:03:47] <jodi2> hi guys[20:05:03] <jodi2> can anybody give me considerations i must bear in mind if i change the ip address of my linux box[20:08:01] <tshine> jodi2: nothing wrong with changing the IP, just make sure your DNS records are in place before sending mail[20:08:35] <tshine> that's A record, MX record rDNS and for extra points SPF[20:09:05] <unixcoder> and if u don't want to lose mails while the dns are updating use a backup mx ..[20:09:08] *** the_sniff has joined #postfix[20:09:22] <the_sniff> i have a 200k mail list which takes days to send[20:09:25] <the_sniff> is it normal?[20:09:41] <jodi2> tshine thanks for that[20:09:59] *** mikefoo has joined #postfix[20:10:07] *** bkw has joined #postfix[20:10:08] <tshine> the_sniff: is it because of greylisting?[20:10:17] <the_sniff> whats greylisting?[20:10:35] <wdp> greylisting is like a girl[20:10:45] <wdp> you can't life without it[20:10:51] <wdp> live?life? whatever[20:11:03][20:11:09] <wdp> the_sniff, ever tried google?[20:11:20] <wdp> the_sniff, or wikipedia?[20:11:24] <the_sniff> HMM[20:11:27] <the_sniff> well[20:11:37] <the_sniff> someone might just say what greylisting is[20:11:44] <the_sniff> instead of hinting over it[20:11:51] <the_sniff> ever heard of not being the riddler?[20:11:53] *** meandtheshell has quit IRC[20:11:58] <wdp> a special method to validate mails[20:11:59] <tshine> greylisting works like this. the receiving MTA looks at a mail from a domain it hasn't received an email from. It then return a temp bounce code (that can vary) in hopes that the originating MTA will send it back[20:12:06] <wdp> or better, to validate the sender of mails[20:12:14] <wdp> (but thats not the correct description)[20:12:19] <the_sniff> how can i disable that?[20:12:25] *** jodi2 has quit IRC[20:12:28] <tshine> the_sniff: you can't[20:12:31] <the_sniff> hmm well[20:12:41] <the_sniff> it seems to send less than 1 email per 10 seconds[20:12:47] <the_sniff> which is pretty lame[20:13:02] <wdp> the_sniff, greylisting is not enabled by default, also you'll need to implement a greylisting policy/daemon to your mailserver.[20:13:15] <wdp> the_sniff, so if you never heard about greylisting, i don't think that you use it.[20:13:28] <the_sniff> hmm ok so what else could be the issue?[20:13:32] <the_sniff> cause thats really slow[20:14:50] <tshine> the_sniff: when you run qshape what is the output?[20:15:11] <the_sniff> all zeroz[20:15:33] <tshine> hmm, do you tail your /var/log/maillog file?[20:15:44] <tshine> err tail -f[20:16:03] <tshine> Sounds like you are hitting greylisting. yahoo is one of the worst for that[20:16:40] <the_sniff> dunno i don't even see any messages sent[20:16:55] <the_sniff> lemme paste[20:17:30] <the_sniff> http://rafb.net/p/CMoH8U96.html[20:17:37] <tshine> if you have root to the box it's a good idea to do a tail -f /var/log/maillog (or whatever the path is to your MTA's log)[20:17:42] *** Petaris has left #postfix[20:17:43] <the_sniff> i am[20:17:46] <the_sniff> thats the output[20:17:47] *** githogori has joined #postfix[20:19:09] <tshine> you need to first do a "sudo postmap aliases" on your aliases file[20:21:14] <the_sniff> why? and done[20:22:15] <tshine> cause of the error in your logs[20:22:41] <tshine> I've had the same prob before and doing the postmap was the solution[20:23:18] <the_sniff> really?[20:23:21] <the_sniff> lets see :p[20:25:16] *** bkw has quit IRC[20:26:39] *** oomii has quit IRC[20:29:07] *** b0rked has quit IRC[20:35:33] *** ek_ has quit IRC[20:41:42] *** ek_ has joined #Postfix[20:44:39] *** Xen^ has joined #postfix[20:45:40] *** sepski has quit IRC[20:49:47] *** weggpod has joined #postfix[20:55:38] *** thelostbutler has quit IRC[20:55:45] *** tmjb has joined #postfix[20:56:26] *** staimeer has quit IRC[20:58:16] *** gg__ has quit IRC[20:58:57] *** prebur has quit IRC[21:00:08] *** growltiger has quit IRC[21:01:15] *** weggpod has quit IRC[21:01:40] *** L|NUX has quit IRC[21:03:41] *** weggpod has joined #postfix[21:05:47] <kreg> anyone know what to tell postfix for mailbox_transport for a cyrus imap? i've tried some default ones on google, but i don't know how to read the syntax[21:06:53] <kreg> i've tried both "mailbox_transport = lmtp:unix:extern/cyrus/lmtp" and "mailbox_transport = lmtp:unix:/var/lib/imap/socet/lmtp"[21:07:08] <kreg> i don't fully understand either line[21:08:20] *** havvg has quit IRC[21:09:26] *** duki has joined #postfix[21:12:33] <dragonheart> kreg: is cyrus running? does a socket exist in /var/lib/imap/socet/lmtp?[21:12:46] <dragonheart> is it ment to be socket?[21:14:20] <kreg> cyrus is running. there is a file called "lmtp=" in /var/lib/imap/socket/[21:15:11] <kreg> if it's a running socket, could i confirm it with netstat?[21:17:11] *** kamihacker has left #postfix[21:17:57] *** Edward123 has quit IRC[21:20:52] *** carl- has quit IRC[21:27:00] <emo_ninja> unixcoder, I think I should be putting in -o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_mynetworks,permit_sasl_authenticated,reject[21:27:25] <emo_ninja> rather -o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_sasl_authenticated,reject[21:27:45] <emo_ninja> but if I do that, no clients seem to be able to connect to port 25 without being immediately rejected[21:31:08] *** zention has joined #postfix[21:31:41] <zention> I cannot get AUTH to show in a telnet session with a supposedly smtp authd postfix[21:32:18] <zention> STARTTLS is showing I have cyrus-sasl in postfix and saslauthd running[21:33:32] <emo_ninja> smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes <--?[21:33:36] <emo_ninja> do you have that set zention?[21:33:37] <zention> yep[21:33:44] <zention> set?[21:33:48] <zention> yes[21:34:02] <zention> no errors in maillog either[21:35:56] <emo_ninja> what do you get when you ehlo?[21:36:16] <zention> none[21:36:26] <zention> I just a get list without AUTH in it[21:36:45] <zention> oh there is something else that is probably easier to fix[21:37:06] <zention> how do I get Maildir format in a place other than a user's home directory[21:39:13] <zention> I have a parition set aside for mail[21:39:57] <emo_ninja> can you do a postconf -n | grep sasl[21:40:24] <zention> do you want me to post it?[21:40:41] <emo_ninja> sure to the pastebin[21:41:10] <zention> http://pastebin.com/d78e55022[21:43:11] <unixcoder> emo_ninja what;s the content of permit_mynetwork... because if it's rejected by default then none of permit_mynetworks,permit_sasl_authenticated match and the last command is reject[21:44:15] *** UQlev has quit IRC[21:44:23] <emo_ninja> unsure zention - that's what I have in mine[21:45:00] <zention> I am on freebsd with this server and I am sure freebsd does something with the config files[21:45:07] <emo_ninja> unixcoder I'm not sure what you're asking... what do you mean the "Content" of permit_mynetwork[21:45:08] <zention> it is not vanilla[21:45:33] <unixcoder> what does the mynetworks = ... looks like :P[21:46:27] <emo_ninja> mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8 -- and a string of machines that are "trusted"[21:46:40] <emo_ninja> though I'm not sure why permit_sasl_authenticated wouldn't kick in[21:47:04] <zention> do you have the same problem emo_ninja[21:47:29] <emo_ninja> I do not zention, mine works just fine on the one interface. I just want to be able to force ONLY sasl traffic on the other[21:48:49] *** meandtheshell has joined #postfix[21:49:29] *** apeiron has quit IRC[21:50:28] *** apeiron has joined #postfix[21:55:39] *** cpm has quit IRC[22:02:43] <zention> I wonder if I need smtpd installed[22:03:32] <zention> oh do not run by hand[22:03:45] *** andresmujica has joined #postfix[22:06:32] <andresmujica> _Hi, I'm having trouble sending mails to a domain without a proper MX. I know that it's a incredible fault from the dns admin of the domain in question, but my bosses don't understand this and they want me to solve the problem from our side.. anyone knows what can i do?[22:06:33] <andresmujica> (delivery temporarily suspended: Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=thegallerytravel.com type=MX: Host not found, try again)[22:08:11] *** kreg_lt has joined #postfix[22:08:22] <kreg_lt> i can't seem to whip this[22:08:23] <kreg_lt> status=deferred (connect to email6.directcom.com[/var/lib/imap/socket/lmtp][22:08:43] <kreg_lt> i've confirmed that cyrus is creating a socket at that path[22:08:48] <unixcoder> andresmujica, no u can't not from your side anyway[22:09:03] <kreg_lt> postfix is set to "local_transport = lmtp:unix:/var/lib/imap/socket/lmtp"[22:10:41] <andresmujica> unixcoder. thks, the **$$%% problem is that they previoulsy had a mail server with debian and there were no troubles with that server. is only when the new server started... so i thought that maybe there's some way..[22:11:06] <emo_ninja> heh, technically you can probably have your own dns server lie .. but that's not the best idea about things[22:11:38] <unixcoder> emo_ninja, but if no one ask his dns server there;s no point :)[22:12:06] <emo_ninja> sure, but he'd be able to send mail to thegallerytravel.com[22:12:20] <emo_ninja> since his postfix would query his dns and get a "valid" MX record, no?[22:12:39] <andresmujica> hmm.. maybe i could try that. i cannot believe thatsomething like that would be true...[22:12:48] <andresmujica> i mean, a domain without MX[22:13:16] *** oblio has left #postfix[22:13:17] <unixcoder> yes u'r right but from outside mails wont be delivered[22:13:46] <andresmujica> yeap. i don't get that either..[22:14:01] *** jamie77 has joined #postfix[22:14:04] <andresmujica> maybe it was a coincidence and their are having troubles with their domains...[22:14:38] <unixcoder> host -t MX thegallerytravel.com[22:14:39] <unixcoder> thegallerytravel.com mail is handled by 10 mail.thegallerytravel.com.[22:14:39] <unixcoder> thegallerytravel.com mail is handled by 20 mail-backup.thegallerytravel.com.[22:14:56] <unixcoder> host -t A mail.thegallerytravel.com[22:14:57] <unixcoder> mail.thegallerytravel.com has address 63.214.164.12[22:15:09] <unixcoder> this ip is yours 63.214.164.12[22:15:11] <unixcoder> ?[22:15:19] <andresmujica> hmm.. but i'm trying from here and tehre's no such data[22:15:20] <unixcoder> for the current mail server[22:15:35] <unixcoder> there u are using a bad dns server[22:15:41] <unixcoder> cat /etc/resolv.conf[22:15:51] <zention> ahh got it[22:16:11] <zention> TLS authenticate only stops the auth even showing[22:20:36] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[22:20:39] *** prebur has joined #postfix[22:23:51] <emo_ninja> oh you need: smtpd_tls_auth_only=no[22:23:56] <emo_ninja> sorry, I missed telling you that :([22:24:26] <emo_ninja> also, my issue was solved by changing it to: smtpd_recipient_restrictions not smtpd_client_restrictions -- thanks ;)[22:29:12] *** growltiger has joined #postfix[22:32:53] <andresmujica> hmm.. i cannot believe this.. i've got to use a differnt DNS, it seems that my ISP dns weren't resolving fine...[22:32:59] <andresmujica> thanks![22:34:07] *** the_sniff has quit IRC[22:35:04] *** pirho has joined #postfix[22:35:47] <zention> how can I work out which version of sasl (1 or 2) I am using?[22:36:19] <zention> hmm well this is really for the test of authentication[22:36:25] <zention> which is via pam[22:36:36] <zention> so I am guessing the sasldb is not used[22:36:52] <zention> I will just add a test user to the system[22:40:51] <zention> hmm still not working[22:40:55] <unixcoder> zention, well if it's /etc/sasl/ u are using ver 1.* if it's /etc/sasl2 u are using 2.*[22:40:58] <zention> does PLAIN work with PAM[22:41:16] <zention> unixcoder: thanks[22:41:34] <zention> it is neither on this sytem though[22:42:04] *** bronb has joined #postfix[22:42:05] <unixcoder> well postconf -a to see what is supported[22:42:30] <zention> postconf -a is an illegal option[22:45:03] *** js_ has quit IRC[22:45:29] <unixcoder> are u root ?[22:45:50] <zention> yep[22:45:55] <zention> I am on freebsd though[22:45:56] *** githogori has quit 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freebsd boxes and check ?[22:48:35] <zention> sysmonk: go on :)[22:49:01] <zention> though all I am trying to do is authenticate via telnet[22:49:17] <zention> and using perl base64[22:49:18] <sysmonk> zention: 2.4 has it[22:49:20] <sysmonk> 2.3 has it[22:49:25] <sysmonk> searching for 2.2 :)[22:49:29] <zention> to geenrate the password and username[22:49:44] <zention> so currently I am not sure what it is checking against[22:50:04] <zention> and to confuse matters even more I have both sasl abd sasl2 programs[22:50:07] <zention> and[22:50:21] *** githogori has joined #postfix[22:50:35] <sysmonk> ugh, can't find postfix-2.x anywhere on my boxes ;/[22:50:47] <zention> well what does -a do?[22:50:54] <sysmonk> lists available sasl mechs[22:51:05] <zention> fatal: usage: /usr/local/sbin/postconf [-c config_dir] [-d (defaults)] [-e (edit)] [-h (no names)] [-l (lock types)] [-m (map types)] [-n (non-defaults)] [-v] [name...][22:51:16] <zention> that appears to be what I have[22:51:26] <sysmonk> yup, just found postfix-20010228 ( don't ask! )[22:51:35] <sysmonk> ye, you've got an ooold postfix :)[22:51:42] <sysmonk> zention: which freebsd is it ?[22:51:47] <zention> 6.2[22:52:03] <zention> It is the latest one in ports[22:52:03] <unixcoder> u installed via ports or via pkg_add ?[22:52:10] <sysmonk> uh, and why the hell did you put postfix 2.x on it ?[22:52:15] <unixcoder> did u update the ports?[22:52:18] <zention> yeah[22:52:19] <sysmonk> zention: you're joking? :)[22:52:21] <zention> no[22:52:24] <sysmonk> :)))[22:52:28] <zention> oh god[22:52:38] <sysmonk> zention: latest one is 2.4 in the ports[22:52:49] <sysmonk> 2.4.6 to be specific[22:52:50] <zention> well I didn't use current[22:53:03] <zention> tell you what I will go install current[22:53:10] <zention> but I hope my config files stay[22:53:14] <sysmonk> zention: maybe you've installed /usr/ports/mail/postfix22/ ?[22:53:27] <sysmonk> zention: just back them up, for gods sake :)[22:53:38] <sysmonk> cp -Rp /usr/local/etc/postfix/ /usr/local/etc/postfix.bak[22:53:39] <zention> yeah 22[22:53:48] <zention> I thought that is the highest number I will install that[22:53:55] <zention> so current is the one?[22:53:56] <sysmonk> zention: install /usr/ports/mail/postfix/ and not postfix22[22:53:59] <zention> or just postfix[22:54:06] <zention> ok[22:54:13] <sysmonk> zention: also, update the ports, please[22:54:18] <sysmonk> and use tag=. for it[22:54:29] <sysmonk> (or use portsnap)[22:54:41] <zention> which SASL shoudl I use?[22:54:47] *** cilly has quit IRC[22:54:50] <zention> 1 or 2?[22:55:24] <sysmonk> uh, if you're talking about cyrus-sasl then 2[22:55:32] <zention> it has everything I need in this one dovcot is there[22:55:48] <sysmonk> you need dovecot or cyrus-sasl ?[22:56:06] <zention> oh can only have dovecot or sasl[22:56:11] <zention> cyrus not both[22:56:25] <zention> But I want to use dovecot for the imap server[22:56:26] <sysmonk> um, it's just kinda stupid to have cyrus-sasl for sasl, and dovecot for imap[22:56:28] <sysmonk> or other way around[22:56:43] <sysmonk> if you're using one tool - use it for everything :)[22:56:44] <zention> so easiest one?[22:56:52] <sysmonk> i don't know, i never used dovecot[22:57:02] * sysmonk is a cyrus user, for sasl, imap, and other stuff[22:57:04] <zention> ok cyrus my manual covers that[22:58:20] <zention> I am going with 2.4 I have borked 2.3[22:58:39] <zention> make clean did not sort the double choice[22:58:58] <sysmonk> make config[22:59:03] <sysmonk> or make rmconfig && make[22:59:16] <sysmonk> or any way you know how to handle that :P[22:59:17] <zention> ah the rmconfig I needed[22:59:29] <zention> well 2.4 is better[22:59:36] *** pirho has quit IRC[23:04:11] <unixcoder> zention, try installing portupdate to manage the ports better[23:04:43] <zention> I have got it[23:04:44] *** fnuneedme has joined #postfix[23:04:44] <sysmonk> unixcoder: portupgrade you meant?[23:04:49] <zention> I chose 22 myself[23:06:01] <unixcoder> sysmonk, yup :P i ment to say portupgrade :[23:06:12] *** jamie77 has left #postfix[23:06:42] <zention> postconf -a shows cyrus and dovecot[23:06:49] <zention> I installed dovecot[23:07:40] <zention> hmm just deinstalled dovecot and it still shows[23:08:20] <sysmonk> zention: because it was compiled with dovecot support[23:08:38] <unixcoder> :) just wanted to write that .[23:08:49] <zention> no only cyrus support[23:08:49] <sysmonk> unixcoder: lies![23:08:59] <unixcoder> sysmonk, all lies :)[23:09:08] <zention> well I couldn't do both in 2.3 so I did not bother trying in 2.4[23:09:44] *** stew has joined #postfix[23:10:06] <stew> when i see "Nov 5 16:06:19 cory postfix/qmgr[4556]: 34306EC84B4: from=<foo at bar dot com>, size=4526, nrcpt=1 (queue active)" in my logs, foo at bar dot com is the ENVELOPE sender, right?[23:11:32] <zention> ok back to the same place expecpt I have lost CRAMMD5 and other hashing and am left with LOGIN and PLAIN[23:14:05] <zention> I try to AUTH via plain to user of the system (ie a user that has been added to /etc/passwd) I give the user's name name password in a MIME64 hash and it does not authorize[23:14:08] *** brancaleone has joined #postfix[23:14:30] *** veepster has quit IRC[23:14:31] *** prebur has quit IRC[23:15:30] *** prebur69 has joined #postfix[23:15:42] <zention> any ideas what pam wants as an auth by hand?[23:15:45] *** pirho has joined #postfix[23:16:06] <unixcoder> zention, u can tell what vers of sasl u enable on postfix by adding this lines : smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes[23:16:06] <unixcoder> smtpd_sasl2_auth_enable = yes //[23:16:21] <zention> ah ok[23:16:38] <zention> well my confusion is really where is saslauthd checking for the user?[23:16:57] <zention> it is it looking in its database or is it using pam and the system database[23:17:06] <zention> I think it is the later[23:17:39] <zention> because sslauthd -a pam is being run[23:18:43] <zention> sasl[23:19:25] <sysmonk> zention: ugh[23:19:26] <sysmonk> it goes like this[23:20:08] <sysmonk> postfix -> sasl(lib) -> sasl_auth_method(like saslauthd) -> saslauthd mode ( like pam ) -> pam.d conf file ( like /etc/pam.d/smtpd )[23:20:24] *** Spec is now known as x-spec-t[23:20:25] <sysmonk> i.e. postfix uses sasl lib, and it's conf file /usr/local/lib/sasl2/smtpd.conf ( for smtpd )[23:20:38] <zention> ok I am missing smtpd.conf[23:20:46] <sysmonk> then, you'd have pwcheck_method: saslauthd in there <- this says it should use saslauthd for auth[23:20:55] <sysmonk> saslauthd -a pam says it should use pam for auth[23:21:00] <unixcoder> cd /usr/local/lib/sasl2 && echo "pwcheck_method: saslauthd" > smtpd.conf[23:21:15] <sysmonk> and pam searches for facility, in this case - /etc/pam.d/smtpd (or maybe i'm wrong :P )[23:21:53] <sysmonk> unixcoder: sure, it's more harder to do a echo "pwcheck_method: saslauthd" > /usr/local/lib/sasl2/smtpd.conf ? :)[23:22:05] <sysmonk> you definitely need to cd there ?[23:22:09] <sysmonk> :P[23:22:11] <unixcoder> yup :)[23:22:52] <zention> the reason I am missing smtpd is because I don't have pam_stack.so on the system[23:23:09] <zention> so I am not sure what to put in smtpd[23:23:18] <sysmonk> uh, what?[23:23:36] <sysmonk> wtf is pam_stack.so ?[23:23:54] <zention> well this is from my book[23:24:09] <sysmonk> what the *** book is it ? :)[23:24:13] <zention> which does make reference to the fact that their example is for redhat systems[23:24:24] <zention> The Book of Postfix[23:24:32] <sysmonk> oh[23:24:39] * sysmonk heard that it's a good book, but never read it[23:24:55] <zention> well it is indepth but probably is aiding top my confusion[23:24:56] <zention> to[23:25:05] *** fnuneedme has quit IRC[23:27:25] <zention> well what do you guys use if you don't use pam?[23:28:01] <rob0> Brush a small amount of vegetable oil on the cooking surface.[23:28:27] <rob0> Oh!! Different pam.[23:29:17] <sysmonk> ;PPP[23:29:25] <rob0> I just set up the auth in Dovecot, and use Dovecot SASL. That can be pam, or it can be a lot of other things.[23:29:57] <sysmonk> zention: why can't you use pam again ?[23:30:24] <zention> sysmonk: because I don't know what to put in smtpd[23:30:37] * sysmonk beeeeeps[23:30:42] <sysmonk> zention: didn't we tell you ?[23:30:50] <zention> sysmonk: nope[23:30:56] * sysmonk rolls over[23:31:12] <sysmonk> zention: in /etc/pam.d/smtpd or in /usr/local/lib/sasl2/smtpd.conf ?[23:31:14] <zention> pam.d/smtpd not stmpd.conf[23:31:48] <sysmonk> zention: how about ... cp /etc/pam.d/login /etc/pam.d/smtpd ?[23:31:49] <sysmonk> ;)[23:32:18] *** stew has left #postfix[23:32:54] <zention> is this wise I don't really want someone to login thru this?[23:33:13] <unixcoder> login where :)[23:33:21] <sysmonk> unixcoder: to postfix! :)[23:33:24] <zention> to the box :)[23:33:34] <zention> ok well I will give it a whirl[23:33:42] <sysmonk> zention: it just uses the same authorization system for smtpd as for 'login' service[23:33:59] <sysmonk> i.e. looks if there's a system account and etc[23:34:05] <unixcoder> lol put /sbin/nologin when make users for mail[23:34:19] *** x-ip has quit IRC[23:34:25] <adaptr> rob0 do you have a link for setting up dovecot SASL ?[23:35:14] <unixcoder> adaptr, did u try the dovecot wiki?[23:35:24] <adaptr> still... linky ?[23:35:33] <zention> ok still cannot authenitcate using telnet[23:36:09] <adaptr> zention so just point a MUA at it! using telnet to do anything non-trivial will be.. well, non-trivial[23:36:43] <unixcoder> zention, silly question on what port do u telnet :) and try to auth :)[23:36:48] <zention> 25[23:37:00] <zention> I get the mail server[23:37:04] <zention> I EHLO it[23:37:12] <sysmonk> zention: pastebin the configs?[23:37:13] <zention> the AUTH PLAIN sdgtfjhsdjgfjwhdg[23:37:34] <sysmonk> zention: and how do you get the sdfadfadsffasd stuff ? (base64)[23:38:16] <sysmonk> maybe you have teh wrong asdafadfadgfsadga stuff[23:38:20] <sysmonk> ;)[23:38:23] <zention> perl -MMIME::Base64 -e 'print encode_base64("test\0test\0txxx000xxx")'[23:38:53] <rob0> Dovecot SASL is almost completely documented in Postfix's SASL_README.[23:39:11] <zention> when I use LOGIN instead of PLAIN it grunts something bask at me[23:39:14] <zention> back[23:41:11] <unixcoder> zention, do u have something similar to this in your main.cf for smtpd_sasl http://pastebin.com/m639d6ee1[23:41:15] <zention> it does seem odd to have the user name twice[23:41:16] <rob0> If using perl to generate an AUTH PLAIN string, you must escape any "@" characters.[23:41:53] <zention> unixcoder: yeah mostly the same TLS is off for now though[23:42:16] <zention> which is why I want to get the testing done - so I can get that back on[23:42:44] <zention> there is no @ characters[23:43:15] * sysmonk would offer verbosing postfix and sasl[23:43:25] <sysmonk> and saslauthd[23:43:58] <zention> the font they use in the book does not really help in distinguishing between \0 and \O but I am assuming it is a zero[23:44:09] <sysmonk> zention: yes, a zero[23:44:20] <sysmonk> and @ should be escapes ( as rob0 mentioned)[23:44:34] <zention> there are no @s[23:44:40] <sysmonk> any special chars?[23:44:43] <zention> none[23:44:52] <sysmonk> pastebined your config?[23:45:03] <sysmonk> restarted saslauthd? restarted postfix?[23:45:08] <zention> all restarted[23:45:24] <zention> I will pastebin the main.cf but it has not had all the comments removed[23:45:35] <sysmonk> zention: postconf -n[23:45:40] <sysmonk> it only gives what we need :)[23:45:44] <sysmonk> and also, cat master.cf[23:45:53] <unixcoder> zention, or use sed '/^\#/d'[23:47:05] <sysmonk> unixcoder: better postconf -n[23:47:09] *** ikaro has quit IRC[23:47:30] <sysmonk> unixcoder: or, if so, grep -v "^#" main.cf would do the trick too :PPPP[23:47:35] <unixcoder> sysmonk, i didn't say it wasn't .. and it's on the topic :)[23:48:02] <sysmonk> unixcoder: just fooling around[23:48:16] <sysmonk> waiting for a csup to finish[23:49:35] <unixcoder> ehh mine is at 3 am :)) i mean emerge --sync :))[23:49:35] <zention> http://pastebin.com/d9753374[23:50:04] *** xDie has joined #postfix[23:50:09] <xDie> hi all[23:50:18] <xDie> "postsuper: warning: bogus file name: incoming" wtf?[23:51:17] *** pitakill has quit IRC[23:51:58] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[23:52:54] <unixcoder> did u upgrade or something?[23:53:21] <xDie> nop[23:53:28] <xDie> postsuper -r[23:54:17] <sysmonk> zention: how about master.cf ?[23:54:28] <zention> oh it worked[23:54:34] <sysmonk> zention: :)[23:54:35] <zention> it just worked[23:54:38] <zention> hooray[23:54:42] <unixcoder> :)))[23:54:57] <zention> hmm I might get the domain boadciousbabes.com[23:55:00] <sysmonk> zention: you can go buy as a beer now! :)[23:55:41] <unixcoder> zention, u just restarted the postfix and it worked :) right ?[23:55:46] <zention> well if you weren't at vitual length[23:55:49] <sysmonk> unixcoder: :))))[23:55:57] <zention> well no I just tried again[23:56:04] <sysmonk> zention: and you're from... ? :)[23:56:15] <zention> uk[23:56:44] <zention> but hey I oculd have tunred things on and off or just got in there too quick[23:56:47] <zention> could[23:57:00] <zention> I was very careful at the paste that time though[23:57:20] <zention> sysmonk: and yourself?[23:57:44] <sysmonk> zention: lithuania, *cough*[23:57:52] <zention> bit of a distance[23:58:05] <sysmonk> oh, you even know where it is? :)))[23:58:21] <zention> of course I am european :)[23:58:47] <sysmonk> heh, most people don't even know if it's on the moon or on venus[23:58:48] <zention> well your eastern europe close to ukraine :)[23:59:08] <rob0> FSVO close[23:59:20] <zention> probably borders Romania[23:59:26] <Trengo> isnt it up north?[23:59:30] <unixcoder> i'm close to ukraine :)[23:59:31] <rob0> no, it's Baltic[23:59:33] <Trengo> around the baltic?[23:59:34] <sysmonk> uh, what? romania? lithuania ? :)[23:59:35] <unixcoder> in Romania[23:59:38] <zention> oh other side[23:59:39] <sysmonk> jesus[23:59:43] <zention> near POland[23:59:44] * sysmonk faints[23:59:48] <sysmonk> yes yes, bingo! :)[23:59:50] *** UQlev has quit IRC[23:59:51] <rob0> Closer to St. Petersburg[23:59:57] <sysmonk> poland, latvia! :)