November 4, 2007 
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November 4, 2007 [00:00:57] <rcsu> posfix send messages to other MTA instances[00:04:21] *** rockets has quit IRC[00:12:16] *** havvg has joined #postfix[00:14:54] *** brancaleone has quit IRC[00:16:43] *** felix_da_catz has joined #postfix[00:23:42] *** theblackbox has quit IRC[00:25:25] *** rockets has joined #postfix[00:25:27] <rockets> cronolog[00:25:29] *** rockets has left #postfix[00:25:34] *** rockets has joined #postfix[00:26:29] <rockets> I have a silly qeustion . . . I cant figure out how to start postfix and have it run in the background[00:26:34] <rockets> like a regular service[00:26:54] *** solar_ant has quit IRC[00:28:30] *** tshine has joined #postfix[00:30:51] *** amedee has joined #postfix[00:30:58] <rob0> rockets: That silly question is only partially answerable, because it's a function of your OS. Try "postfix start", but that's only a one-time thing (you probably want it to start again after a reboot.)[00:31:20] <amedee> I have a question after reading http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-etch/[00:31:40] <rockets> rob0, right. well its solaris, and with solaris you start postfix with svcadm, except this isnt an offical postfix distrobution so there is none[00:31:55] <mark-use> n8[00:31:59] *** mark-use has quit IRC[00:32:13] <amedee> I read: "We are using the raw power of the Sieve_ plugin which is a mail filter like procmail (which is not useful for virtual mailboxes)."[00:32:36] <amedee> It is not explained why procmail is not useful for virtual mailboxes[00:33:27] <amedee> I'm fooling around a bit with sieve and honestly: I don't like it... :([00:35:02] *** glitchz has quit IRC[00:35:03] <rob0> procmail requires a real $HOME and $USER and $SHELL. No, it's not suited for virtual mailboxes.[00:35:08] *** githogori has quit IRC[00:35:38] <wdp> rob0 isn't it possible to use procmail with virtual_transport or something like this?[00:35:52] <wdp> when using it as a service or something like that?[00:37:15] <amedee> rob0: so what you are saying is, if I want to use procmail, I have to throw away my virtual mailbox configuration?[00:39:38] <rob0> wdp, some people have tried to force that square peg into a round hole, yes, usually using pipe(8).[00:40:39] <rob0> virtual(8) delivery is less featureful than local(8). In fact virtual itself is a scaled down version of local.[00:42:56] <amedee> I fear I have come to the wrong place to ask my question...[00:43:17] <wdp> rob0, well i ask because i would need something like this.[00:43:32] <wdp> rob0 i need to filter incoming mails using procmail. the server itself is doing virtual.[00:43:37] <wdp> rob0, so how would i do this?[00:50:47] <rob0> If you ask me (and no one ever does), virtual mailboxes are overrated. Chris calls it ISP-style in his HOWTO, and yes, virtual makes sense for an ISP. I still like using Unix users and local delivery.[00:51:19] *** duki has quit IRC[00:51:27] <rob0> The main drawback is the lack of namespace separation for local domains. But ...[00:51:37] *** havvg has quit IRC[00:51:43] <wdp> no one ever does is wrong, i did ;) Also, yep, i'm using postfix for hosting purposes. (ISP-Style)[00:51:49] <rob0> ... there are workarounds for that, namely, virtual alias domains.[00:52:35] <rockets> Ok I've got a real question now. I try to do postfix start and I get Re-run this command as /opt/csw/etc/postfix/post-install command_directory=/some/where. But I've set the correct command_directory variable in /etc/profile[00:52:42] <amedee> I currently have what you call an ISP-style setup. what would be the easiest way to change that to local delivery without headaches?[00:52:54] *** jduggan_ has joined #postfix[00:53:09] <wdp> amedee, hireing a postfix admin[00:53:14] <wdp> *hidez*[00:53:23] * rockets slaps wdp with a fish.[00:53:28] * amedee slaps wdp around with whatever[00:53:33] <rockets> haha. score.[00:53:34] <rob0> No, it's pretty easy to set up local delivery.[00:53:39] <rob0> !basic[00:53:39] <knoba> rob0: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[00:54:01] <wdp> ewww. he/she said "without headaches"[00:54:02] <wdp> :p[00:54:15] <amedee> It's just for me, my wife, and a mailing list I'm hosting for friends[00:54:30] <amedee> "my wife" implies that I'm a "he"[00:54:33] <rob0> The professionals are needed for the big virtual setups. Postfix is very friendly to the home hobbyist.[00:55:02] <rockets> eh[00:55:07] <rockets> communigate pro FTW[00:55:11] <rob0> ugh[00:55:22] <rockets> set up subdomains in three seconds[00:55:51] <wdp> rob0 do you know any howto or could you point me to a howto, where i can look at such a "workarround" getting procmail with virtual working?[00:56:07] <rob0> wdp, it is not a problem which interests me.[00:59:29] *** pirho has quit IRC[00:59:51] <rockets> Does this matter?[00:59:52] <rockets> postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by group mail: /opt/csw/var/spool/postfix//public[01:00:25] <rockets> its owned by group postfix . . .[01:00:29] <rockets> which is the default for this package.[01:01:13] *** war has quit IRC[01:04:32] <amedee> I'm a home hobbyist, I have a servername.domain0; user1@domain1; user2@domain2; mailinglist@domain3 and nothing else. i use postfix and dovecot. I should totally rm my current so-called ISP-style virtual domain configuration and restart from scratch with local delivery. Yes or no?[01:07:17] <rockets> amedee, I'm going to be hissed at for this, but communigate pro is great and has a free community edition.[01:07:44] <rockets> and its very easy to configure[01:07:53] * amedee googles[01:08:02] *** rafailowski has joined #postfix[01:08:16] <rockets> Its also not open source :-([01:09:18] <amedee> closed source payware? what's next, microsoft?[01:10:03] <rockets> its payware if you have more then 5 users.[01:10:13] <rockets> its free for 5 or less users[01:10:37] <amedee> and does it play nice with mailman?[01:11:12] <rockets> idk. but why would you need mailman for that[01:11:16] <rockets> its self contained[01:11:55] <amedee> because I use a drupal module that cooperates with mailman[01:12:03] <rockets> ah.[01:12:07] <rockets> oh well.[01:12:21] <amedee> drupal = web cms[01:12:33] *** Bronsky has quit IRC[01:13:47] *** cafuego has joined #postfix[01:14:29] *** cilly has quit IRC[01:15:11] <rockets> i know what it is[01:15:16] <rockets> my company used to use it[01:15:20] <rockets> we hate it :-D[01:15:28] <rockets> we're using wordpress now[01:16:08] *** majoosh has joined #postfix[01:16:16] <majoosh> Hi Guys[01:16:43] <majoosh> I need a small help. Am a newbie to postfix[01:17:09] <majoosh> am getting the error[01:17:33] <majoosh> postfix/qmgr[14923]: warning: connect to transport domain.com/folder/: No such file or directory[01:17:41] <majoosh> what is the fix for this[01:17:45] <majoosh> ?[01:18:11] <amedee> rockets: I heard the same thing, the other way around :)[01:18:21] <rockets> amedee, hehe to each his ow[01:18:24] <rockets> or her.[01:18:31] <amedee> :)[01:18:51] *** geek_cl has joined #postfix[01:18:58] <geek_cl> hello everyone[01:19:07] <geek_cl> somebody here[01:19:08] <majoosh> am not sure what to do , can anyone help me ?[01:19:34] <rockets> geek_cl, nope, nobody here.[01:19:38] <amedee> right... it's 01:18 at night over here, it's not like I'm going to mess up a perfectly working configuration at this unholy hour.[01:19:47] <geek_cl> ok rockets thanks[01:20:34] <geek_cl> i have 2 postfix, but one of them is a relayhost, and the accounts are in a second postfix ,[01:20:52] <majoosh> I get this error tooo[01:20:53] <majoosh> relay=none, delay=0.02, delays=0/0.01/0/0, dsn=4.3.0, status=deferred (mail transport unavailable[01:20:58] <geek_cl> how i can validate this accounts in other 2d portfix=[01:21:36] *** Bronsky has joined #postfix[01:21:46] <majoosh> patrician postfix/error[28935]: 983944A774: to=<****@localdomain>, orig_to=<****>, relay=none, delay=125680, delays=125679/0.35/0/0.74, dsn=4.3.0, status=deferred (mail transport unavailable)[01:21:55] <amedee> argh why are all articles on howtoforge.com about virtual domains :([01:23:24] *** KhensU has quit IRC[01:24:01] <adaptr> amedee what, specifically, do you need help with ?[01:24:31] <adaptr> sorry, I really meant majoosh ... but you can ask too, of course[01:26:09] <majoosh> thanks adaptr[01:26:17] <majoosh> I get the error[01:26:18] <majoosh> patrician postfix/error[28935]: 983944A774: to=<****@localdomain>, orig_to=<****>, relay=none, delay=125680, delays=125679/0.35/0/0.74, dsn=4.3.0, status=deferred (mail transport unavailable)[01:26:21] <geek_cl> i have 2 postfix, but one of them is a relayhost, and the accounts are in a second postfix , how i can validate this accounts in other 2d portfix= ??[01:26:32] <majoosh> also it says postfix/qmgr[14923]: warning: connect to transport domain.com/folder/: No such file or directory[01:27:05] <majoosh> am just a newbie to postfix :) Like to learn it :)[01:27:19] <majoosh> I can send mail but cannot recieve[01:27:52] <geek_cl> majoosh check this first : http://www.postfix.org/docs.html[01:28:21] <majoosh> [root@server]# postconf -n[01:28:22] <majoosh> alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases[01:28:22] <majoosh> command_directory = /usr/sbin[01:28:22] <majoosh> config_directory = /etc/postfix[01:28:22] <majoosh> daemon_directory = /usr/libexec/postfix[01:28:22] *** majoosh has quit IRC[01:29:02] *** majoosh has joined #postfix[01:29:21] <majoosh> kicked out from IRC he he[01:29:47] <majoosh> tried to paste the postconf -n results[01:29:57] <majoosh> alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases[01:29:58] <majoosh> command_directory = /usr/sbin[01:29:58] <majoosh> config_directory = /etc/postfix[01:29:58] <majoosh> daemon_directory = /usr/libexec/postfix[01:29:58] <majoosh> debug_peer_level = 2[01:29:58] <majoosh> html_directory = no[01:30:00] <majoosh> inet_interfaces = all[01:30:02] <majoosh> mail_owner = postfix[01:30:04] <majoosh> mailq_path = /usr/bin/mailq.postfix[01:30:06] <majoosh> manpage_directory = /usr/share/man[01:30:08] <majoosh> message_size_limit = 20480000[01:30:10] <majoosh> mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, localhost[01:30:11] *** wdp has quit IRC[01:30:12] <majoosh> mydomain = globalchangemultimedia.org[01:30:15] <adaptr> will you stop that ? you've lost my interest and my help, go away[01:30:19] <adaptr> fucktard[01:30:35] <majoosh> hey whatz the problem ?[01:30:59] <adaptr> what's the *problem* ?[01:31:10] <adaptr> at this point, you are[01:31:24] <geek_cl> majoosh Click here: http://www.postfix.org/docs.html[01:32:01] <geek_cl> i have 2 postfix, but one of them is a relayhost, and the accounts are in a second postfix , how i can validate this accounts in other 2d portfix= ??[01:32:32] <adaptr> geek_cl generally speaking, you cannot - either share the accounts between the servers, or forget about validating recipients[01:32:47] <geek_cl> exact ![01:33:14] <geek_cl> the firts its a antispam filter and relay mail to a 2dn..[01:33:47] <geek_cl> Relay access denied on 1st[01:34:02] <adaptr> where is this going ?[01:34:11] *** hemry has quit IRC[01:34:27] <geek_cl> a 2nd postfix[01:34:39] <adaptr> doing spam filtering on a host that gets more mail than will eventually be delivered is a waste anyway you look at it[01:34:48] <majoosh> thanks adaptr for the help :'([01:34:53] <majoosh> am out[01:34:56] *** majoosh has left #postfix[01:35:08] <adaptr> why not only filter valid recipient mail ?[01:35:46] <geek_cl> filter to all at domain1 dot cl and domain2.cl[01:41:14] *** cilly has joined #postfix[01:43:08] *** Motoko-chan has joined #postfix[01:43:46] *** Motoko-chan has quit IRC[01:44:08] *** Motoko-chan has joined #postfix[01:45:03] *** rcsu has quit IRC[02:02:42] *** geek_cl has quit IRC[02:02:59] <rockets> hooray postfix is working.[02:03:03] <rockets> i did it in such a lame way though[02:03:05] <rockets> crontab -e[02:03:12] <rockets> @reboot /opt/csw/sbin/postfix start[02:08:20] *** Ryushin has quit IRC[02:12:48] *** |DeuS| has quit IRC[02:28:16] *** havvg has joined #postfix[02:30:57] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[02:37:18] *** Ramoni has quit IRC[03:05:40] *** Tachy_ has joined #postfix[03:05:54] *** etaylor has joined #postfix[03:14:58] *** kreg_lt has joined #postfix[03:15:43] <kreg_lt> trying to do a very simple example of setting up postfix to recieve mail[03:16:39] <kreg_lt> i fail to understand why i get "relay access denied" when other smtp servers try to send mail to me, if i do not define myhostname= and mydomain=[03:17:10] <kreg_lt> all i am doing is trying to recieve mail from the net. if i define both as "example.com" it works[03:17:19] <kreg_lt> however example.com is not a hostname[03:17:45] <kreg_lt> so if i use mail.example.com for myhostname, and example.com for mydomain, it fails.[03:18:16] <kreg_lt> if i use example.com for myhostname, and example.com for mydomain, it works.[03:18:21] <kreg_lt> why?[03:18:46] *** Tachy has quit IRC[03:20:36] *** veepster has joined #postfix[03:24:57] *** n3kl_ has quit IRC[03:29:46] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[03:35:23] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[03:36:55] *** KhensU has joined #postfix[03:41:18] *** githogori has joined #postfix[03:43:09] <hparker> !basic[03:43:09] <knoba> hparker: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[03:43:14] <hparker> kreg_lt: ^^^^^^^^^[03:47:18] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[03:57:57] <kreg_lt> thanks[03:58:09] <kreg_lt> questions answered[04:00:21] *** 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has joined #postfix[09:30:25] <bh> excuse me,[09:30:48] <bh> is there anyone to use dkimproxy?[09:31:07] <bh> please review this: http://marc.info/?l=postfix-users&m=119416394129369&q=raw[09:56:19] *** bkw has quit IRC[10:03:47] *** duki has joined #postfix[10:43:43] *** pirho has joined #postfix[11:00:30] *** dragonheart has quit IRC[11:01:35] *** dragonheart has joined #postfix[11:02:52] *** badaxx has joined #postfix[11:03:18] <badaxx> hey guys! everytime I send an email to web at filsh dot net I receive an email with the message "User unknown in virtual alias table" what does that mean in detail?[11:25:37] *** j_s has quit IRC[11:35:11] *** j_s has joined #postfix[11:41:51] *** rcsu has joined #postfix[11:50:30] *** jssa has joined #postfix[11:51:19] <jssa> I'm setting up a postfix server with virtual domains using MySQL. I need some help optimizing the queries over the DB.[11:52:15] <jssa> I see postfix querying the DB for domain entries on the "virtuals" table (always returning 0 rows, 'cause my virtuals table only has the recipient addresses)[11:52:19] *** cilly has quit IRC[11:53:13] *** cilly has joined #postfix[11:54:05] *** benp- has quit IRC[11:55:41] *** cilly has quit IRC[11:56:46] *** cilly has joined #postfix[11:57:26] *** pirho has quit IRC[12:13:08] *** jssa has left #postfix[12:22:09] *** bh has quit IRC[12:31:57] *** pirho has joined #postfix[12:32:49] *** hemry has joined #postfix[12:41:37] *** meandtheshell has joined #postfix[12:44:05] *** the_sniff has joined #postfix[12:44:42] <the_sniff> any workaround steps for a postfix server not sending anything?[12:55:05] *** Gabrys has joined #postfix[12:56:07] <Gabrys> hello there, I've got a question about Postfix and PAM, I spent the whole yesterday trying to deal with it...[12:56:38] <Gabrys> is there a natural way to have Postfix authenticate users (SMTP AUTH) via PAM or /etc/shadow, not using SASL?[13:21:31] <lawnchair> i dont know of any other way[13:21:34] <lawnchair> think you need sasl[13:24:38] <Gabrys> ok, thank you[13:24:59] <Gabrys> I was quite confused with the "pam" USE flag for postfix in Gentoo[13:25:03] *** havvg has joined #postfix[13:29:52] <adaptr> SASL can *use* PAM - PAM is not an authentication mechanism in itself[13:31:03] <Gabrys> Yes, now I got this (finally) working this way[13:31:17] <Gabrys> Postfix -> Cyrus-sasl -> PAM[13:31:37] <Gabrys> in smtpd.conf I have pwcheck_method=saslauth[13:31:52] <Gabrys> and saslauthd is run with -a pam (it works as well with the -a shadow)[13:32:21] <Gabrys> what's quite strange I had pwcheck_method=pam in smtpd.conf by default[13:32:28] <Gabrys> and that was NOT working[13:32:57] <Gabrys> it authenticated users through sasldb[13:33:03] <Gabrys> I have no idea why[13:33:37] *** duki has quit IRC[13:35:28] <Gabrys> some incompatibility with <cyrus-sasl-2.0 I guess...[13:38:45] *** rafailowski has quit IRC[13:45:33] *** menace has joined #postfix[13:46:20] *** veepster has joined #postfix[13:59:52] <adaptr> noo... as I have already said, PAM is not an authentication mechanism *in and of itself* - you have to tell SASL to use PAM, postfix cannot use it[14:01:28] *** duki has joined #postfix[14:04:12] *** j_s has quit IRC[14:09:46] *** Gabrys has left #postfix[14:11:32] *** badaxx is now known as badaxx`brb[14:12:52] *** war has quit IRC[14:14:37] *** war has joined #postfix[14:16:36] *** the_sniff has quit IRC[14:21:50] *** havvg has quit IRC[14:22:32] *** etaylor has quit IRC[14:31:38] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[14:32:52] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[14:40:39] *** badaxx`brb is now known as badaxx[14:40:55] *** badaxx is now known as ir[14:41:26] *** ir is now known as iradiax[14:57:22] *** theblackbox has joined #postfix[15:12:12] *** solar_ant has quit IRC[15:18:33] *** veepster has quit IRC[15:18:57] *** amedee has quit IRC[15:20:10] *** wdp has joined #postfix[15:35:45] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[15:35:59] *** havvg has joined #postfix[15:37:19] *** solar_ant has joined #postfix[15:39:21] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[15:50:21] *** FreeSoul has joined #postfix[15:50:38] *** FreeSoul has left #postfix[15:57:33] *** Ryushin has joined #postfix[16:01:11] *** havvg has quit IRC[16:01:54] *** punkpussy has joined #postfix[16:07:09] *** solar_ant has quit IRC[16:19:02] *** stse has joined #postfix[16:20:02] <stse> Hello! Is the mail user something special, that will always accepted by postfix (mail@domain)?[16:21:47] <stse> In my case postfix (a dmz relay) always accepts mail@domain, even if the target host says "5.5.1 no such user", and then postfix creates a bounce message. This does not happen with other unknown users.[16:39:09] <rob0> Not that I know of. Only postmaster@$mydomain (or maybe $myorigin) gets special treatment as recipient. Maybe that address is in your relay_recipient_maps ?[16:41:35] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[16:42:57] <stse> rob0: I don't have a relay_recipient_map.[16:44:55] <stse> no alias map or other things for this user.[16:46:41] *** hparker has joined #postfix[16:47:59] *** FreeSoul has joined #postfix[16:48:34] <rob0> Several other things could cause this. Pastebin logs of it happening.[16:48:54] <FreeSoul> hi everybody. I've a problemi with postfix: if i telnet to localhost:25 the connection is accepted but i don't get any kind of message from the server. How to solve it? I can't understand why it has this behaviour[16:49:33] <FreeSoul> of course no firewall is running[16:49:35] <rob0> read your ====> LOGS <====[16:50:00] <FreeSoul> rob0 in /var/logs/ i've no logs about postfix[16:50:08] <rob0> Then you have a problem.[16:50:31] <FreeSoul> rob0 yep, i have :) and i'm looking for solution[16:51:17] <FreeSoul> do you think you can help me please?[16:51:20] <rob0> You need to learn how to operate your OS. And this is not the place for that. Try reading the OS' documentation and going to its forums.[16:52:18] <FreeSoul> os documentation? i know how my os works (i'm using linux)[16:53:28] <hparker> Then you need to look into your system logger and see why it's not logging what postfix is sending it[16:54:15] <FreeSoul> hparker: ok thanks[16:54:50] <hparker> without logs it's really hard to figure out what postfix is/isn't doing[16:55:00] <FreeSoul> hparker: yes[16:55:17] <FreeSoul> is there any way to run it in foreground with verbose output?[16:55:37] <hparker> don't know, never had a need to so never tried[16:56:27] <FreeSoul> ok thanks anyway[16:57:44] <stse> rob0: Are 11 lines to paste into the channel okay, or should I use a pastebin?[16:58:14] <hparker> pastebin please[17:01:23] <stse> okay, http://rafb.net/p/Igbwmn66.html shows a log example that mail@mydomain will be first accepted and later bounced, because the user is unknown.[17:01:55] <stse> this happens not with other users.[17:02:37] <rob0> The paste doesn't show where it originated. And the munging might result in a GIGO answer.[17:06:42] <stse> okay, I'll rework the log example[17:07:12] <rob0> show where it comes in[17:08:53] <FreeSoul> syslogs say this: Nov 4 17:08:39 Cocai postfix/master[5909]: daemon started -- version 2.3.6, configuration /etc/postfix[17:08:53] <FreeSoul> Nov 4 17:08:49 Cocai postfix/smtpd[5916]: warning: connect #1 to subsystem private/proxymap: Connection refused[17:09:10] <hparker> chroot?[17:09:14] <FreeSoul> no :-/[17:10:03] <FreeSoul> any idea?[17:10:15] <FreeSoul> i really can't figure out what causes this[17:11:01] <rob0> How did you install it?[17:11:13] <rob0> looks like a broken install[17:11:19] <rob0> or upgrade[17:11:37] <FreeSoul> emerge postfix[17:11:49] <FreeSoul> using Gentoo linux packet manager[17:11:57] <rob0> hparker: all yours :)[17:12:10] <hparker> lol[17:12:23] <hparker> mine doesn't do that when I emerge it :P[17:12:42] <FreeSoul> i've just deleted /etc/portage and i'm re emerging it[17:12:47] <FreeSoul> i hope it will fix the situation[17:13:05] <hparker> What's /etc/portage got to do with it?[17:13:46] <FreeSoul> sorry /etc/postfix[17:14:15] <stse> rob0: This is the starting point:[17:14:21] <stse> Nov 4 16:18:41 mail postfix/smtpd[32218]: connect from unknown[61.135.170.160][17:14:22] <stse> Nov 4 16:18:44 mail postfix/smtpd[32218]: 0B27D4C07B: client=unknown[61.135.170.160][17:14:22] <stse> Nov 4 16:18:46 mail postfix/cleanup[32402]: 0B27D4C07B: message-id=<20071104151844.0B27D4C07B at mail dot mydomain.com>[17:14:22] <stse> Nov 4 16:18:46 mail postfix/qmgr[29113]: 0B27D4C07B: from=<Mieslj at 123 dot com>, size=1352, nrcpt=1 (queue active)[17:14:22] <stse> Nov 4 16:18:47 mail postfix/smtpd[32218]: disconnect from unknown[61.135.170.160][17:15:40] <rob0> 61.135.170.160 could be in $mynetworks or a check_client_access lookup[17:16:00] <rob0> damn munging, I think I will /ignore you[17:16:25] <rob0> Warned you once.[17:17:27] <hparker> that info be teh sektrit[17:17:39] *** the_sniff has joined #postfix[17:17:49] <the_sniff> any help why my messages won't get sent?[17:17:58] <the_sniff> any trouble shooting steps?[17:17:59] <FreeSoul> hparker: ok most probably the problem is a missin /etc/mail/aliases.db[17:18:39] <hparker> yeah, emerge doesn't run postalias for you[17:18:55] <hparker> You're supposed to fix aliases and then run it yourself[17:19:23] <rob0> IOW, check the distro documentation and do what it says.[17:19:49] <rob0> the_sniff: read your ====> LOGS <====[17:20:17] <rob0> Radical concept, that.[17:21:27] *** solar_ant has joined #postfix[17:24:52] *** punkpussy has quit IRC[17:28:27] *** duki has quit IRC[17:29:49] *** b4 has joined #postfix[17:29:56] *** duki has joined #postfix[17:34:56] <b4> Hi, is it possible to only allow mail for senders above a certain UID (but still specify exceptions to this rule, like root)? I want to reject mail for system users like lighttpd and pgsql...[17:35:18] <b4> or can I maybe specify a list of denied users?[17:36:51] <b4> should I use restriction classes?[17:37:29] *** MrBig has joined #postfix[17:39:28] *** salryman has quit IRC[17:40:52] <b4> or is it somehow possible to put a list of exceptions at the beginning of the local_recipient_maps definition?[17:45:11] <rob0> !authorized_submit_users[17:45:12] <knoba> rob0: Error: "authorized_submit_users" is not a valid command.[17:45:22] <roe> any idea why I would be getting relay acces denied when from the outside i am trying to send mail to a domain in my transport file?[17:45:23] <rob0> postconf.5.html#authorized_submit_users[17:46:01] <rob0> roe, the transport_maps do not define what domains you accept.[17:46:24] *** felix_da_catz has joined #postfix[17:46:41] <roe> so I need them in "mydestinations" as well[17:47:21] *** iradiax has quit IRC[17:47:51] <rob0> b4, note that there's no way to prevent a specific process which uses SMTP to send, but your httpd probably uses sendmail(1) submission.[17:47:59] *** unixipher has joined #postfix[17:48:30] <rob0> address_classes[17:48:35] <rob0> !address_classes[17:48:35] <knoba> rob0: "address_classes" : http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_CLASS_README.html describes how Postfix deals with different classes of addresses: local, relay, virtual alias, virtual mailbox, and Internet.[17:48:39] <rob0> roe: ^^[17:49:57] <the_sniff> rob0: logs give me nothing :s its a relay server[17:50:07] <the_sniff> btw :s[17:52:35] *** duki has quit IRC[17:52:38] *** duki has joined #postfix[17:52:41] <FreeSoul> hparker: now postfix is running.... i connect, send mail to myself and log says that mail was delivered to maildir... but /var/mail that links to /var/spool/mail is empty. Do you know why?[17:55:02] *** ikaro^ has quit IRC[17:55:05] *** ikaro has joined #postfix[17:55:08] <stse> FreeSoul: if it is saying something about maildir, try looking in your HOME directory. There may be a maildir directory.[17:55:28] <FreeSoul> stse: yep... i allready did it :-/ nothing found[17:55:39] <FreeSoul> no wait[17:55:42] <FreeSoul> found![17:56:01] <rob0> !home_mailbox[17:56:02] <knoba> rob0: "home_mailbox" : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional pathname of a mailbox file relative to a local(8) user's home directory.[17:56:24] <FreeSoul> yeah yeah yeah it's in ~/.maildir :)[17:56:29] <FreeSoul> thanks you stse[17:56:38] <rob0> See "man local" for the possible settings and their priorities.[17:57:29] <FreeSoul> rob0 sure, many thanks![17:58:41] <FreeSoul> but is there any way to use spamassassin to check mails without using procmail, amavis or something like that?[18:00:05] <stse> FreeSoul: don't know. But why don't you want procmail or amavis?[18:00:42] <FreeSoul> stse: i read that procmail requires lot of resourse with big amount of work... dunno if this is true[18:01:04] <FreeSoul> let's say i hoped in a direct solution, for a clearer way[18:01:10] <FreeSoul> but it's just an idea[18:02:36] <rob0> !cheatsheet[18:02:37] <knoba> rob0: "cheatsheet" : http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt : A HOWTO for pre-DATA spam control.[18:02:54] <rob0> ^^ shoot the fish in a barrel before SA[18:03:15] <rob0> The typical choice is to use SA from amavisd-new.[18:03:38] <FreeSoul> ok thanks again[18:09:36] *** duki has quit IRC[18:09:46] *** amrit|zzz is now known as amrit[18:18:54] <FreeSoul> ok guys, many many thanks and c ya[18:19:04] *** FreeSoul has quit IRC[18:32:24] <kreg_lt> been trying to build postfix with mysql support[18:32:28] <kreg_lt> keep getting this[18:32:31] <kreg_lt> Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.73376 (%install)[18:32:42] <kreg_lt> dang near looks like it finishes[18:33:27] *** bronb has joined #postfix[18:41:07] *** MrBig has left #postfix[18:43:15] *** hemry has quit IRC[18:43:37] *** hemry has joined #postfix[19:01:10] *** bronb has quit IRC[19:11:00] *** tshine has joined #postfix[19:11:29] <tshine> good morning/aft/eve all[19:19:06] <b4> rob0, no I meant receiving e-mail[19:19:13] <b4> I am fine with them sending it[19:19:36] <b4> I don't want e-mail adressed to lighttpd at example dot com be delivered to the mailbox of user lighttpd[19:19:46] <b4> because nobody is ever going to read that[19:20:36] *** stse has left #postfix[19:21:54] *** unixipher has quit IRC[19:23:39] <rob0> The standard solution is to use aliases(5) to point such accounts to real users. You can also build a special map for local_recipient_maps if desired, or add the ones you want to reject to a check_recipient_access lookup in smtpd_recipient_restrictions.[19:27:58] <wdp> re[19:33:39] *** solar_ant has quit IRC[19:34:55] <the_sniff> i hate postfix :([19:35:18] <the_sniff> can't i clear the entire queue in a second its taking hours[19:36:20] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[19:36:34] <rob0> I guess that's what you get for running a relay server without logs.[19:37:05] <adaptr> the_sniff of course you can : postsuper -d ALL[19:40:49] *** bronb has joined #postfix[19:41:33] <the_sniff> rob0 i have logs, they just don't say anything about the emails im trying to find[19:41:44] <the_sniff> adaptr im doing that, it's running for 2 hours now[19:42:25] <hparker> sounds like some recipient validation might be needed[19:42:49] <the_sniff> whats that?[19:47:32] *** j_s has joined #postfix[19:52:56] *** bronb has quit IRC[19:57:19] <rob0> http://cr.yp.to/talks/2007.11.02/slides.pdf qmail released to public domain?[19:57:34] <rob0> I wonder what that means?[19:57:50] <rob0> It still isn't likely to become a viable MTA.[19:57:55] <hparker> It still sux?[19:58:26] <hparker> There's already netqmail, a fork of some sort from what i understand[19:58:34] <rob0> That lying bastard, says the $500 (whoop-de-doo) was never claimed.[19:58:43] <rob0> He just refused to pay it.[19:58:54] <hparker> heh[19:59:31] <rob0> As if $500 is a significant sum for a complete code audit by a competent professional.[20:03:17] <hparker> yeah[20:05:00] <rob0> Another thing, I'd say that the refusal to do recipient validation is a security breach, easily exploited by spammers, and a common cause for blacklisting of qmail sites.[20:05:23] <rob0> depends how you want to define "security"[20:05:44] <shasta> "cryptography is outside the scope of the qmail security guarantee" ;-)[20:05:51] <rob0> I'd say, if your system can be used by bad guys in ways you would not intend, it's insecure.[20:23:31] <the_sniff> postsuper -d ALL takes over 3 hours and still running. how is this possible?[20:24:42] <hparker> tons of files? slow drives? using a 486 :P[20:25:01] <hparker> Maybe they're coming in faster then you can delete them[20:27:56] *** UQlev has joined #postfix[20:31:55] *** the_sniff has quit IRC[20:37:37] *** etaylor has joined #postfix[21:00:07] *** Sitting_Bull has joined #postfix[21:00:12] <Sitting_Bull> hi guys[21:00:53] <Sitting_Bull> any idea how i set the mode in potfix to 770 so it creates mailboex with 770 premissions?[21:01:19] <Sitting_Bull> only thing i need to sort out then all is fine ;)[21:01:38] <Sitting_Bull> dovecot only logs in to the mailbox with that premissions[21:01:56] <el_cubano> umask setting maybe?[21:02:05] <Sitting_Bull> if not i get this in maillog: Nov 4 21:43:53 server dovecot: POP3(johan at test dot co.za): stat(/home/vmail/test.co.za/johan/cur) failed: Permission denied[21:02:06] <Sitting_Bull> Nov 4 21:43:53 server dovecot: POP3(johan at test dot co.za): stat(/home/vmail/test.co.za/johan/cur) failed: Permission denied[21:02:06] <Sitting_Bull> Nov 4 21:43:53 server dovecot: POP3(johan at test dot co.za): Couldn't open INBOX: Internal error occurred. Refer to server log for more information. [2007-11-04 21:43:53][21:03:25] <Signum> Sitting_Bull: you can't. you should rather use static_uid_maps and static_gid_maps to give the virtual mailbox directories the same ownership that dovecot will use[21:04:52] <Sitting_Bull> cool thanks Signum[21:04:55] <Sitting_Bull> will check it out[21:15:05] *** bronb has joined #postfix[21:20:07] *** brancaleone has joined #postfix[21:26:22] *** UQlev has quit IRC[21:38:08] *** roe is now known as roe_[21:39:53] *** hemry has quit IRC[21:40:29] *** hemry has joined #postfix[21:44:01] *** sh0wt1me has joined #postfix[21:53:16] *** sh0wt1me has quit IRC[21:57:27] *** pirho has quit IRC[21:58:15] *** pirho has joined #postfix[22:01:55] *** Sitting_Bull has quit IRC[22:11:52] *** bronb has quit IRC[22:23:08] *** hemry has quit IRC[22:23:29] *** hemry has joined #postfix[22:23:54] *** j_s has quit IRC[22:37:53] *** diveli has joined #postfix[22:40:48] *** thesysop has joined #postfix[22:41:03] *** thesysop has left #postfix[22:49:08] *** b4 has quit IRC[22:57:58] *** rcsu has quit IRC[23:01:56] *** hemry has quit IRC[23:05:44] *** duki has joined #postfix[23:10:59] *** hemry has joined #postfix[23:19:24] <roe_> Here is my conf: http://www.pastebin.ca/761492[23:19:31] <roe_> I am getting: Recipient address rejected: undeliverable address: mail for digiraticc.com loops back to myself[23:19:47] <roe_> when trying to send mail to any of the relay domains[23:19:57] <rob0> !loopback[23:19:58] <knoba> rob0: "loopback" : 'Mail loops back to myself' means that your Postfix wanted to send out the mail to the internet but then discovered that the DNS says your mail server should be responsible. Most likely you forgot to list your domain in mydestination or virtual_(alias|mailbox)_domains[23:20:03] <adaptr> !damn you beat me![23:20:04] <knoba> adaptr: Error: "damn" is not a valid command.[23:20:07] <adaptr> yes it is![23:20:24] <rob0> :)[23:20:37] <roe_> yes, I know what it is complaining about, but the relay domains should be telling it to send it out to ther given IP address[23:20:50] <rob0> digiraticc.com. 86400 IN MX 10 mail.digiraticc.com.[23:20:58] <rob0> mail.digiraticc.com. 86400 IN A 206.71.169.49[23:21:38] <roe_> correct, and 206 has the transport table to send it to the final mta[23:22:33] <roe_> I am pretty sure I did it correctly, as per: http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#relay_domains[23:24:14] <rob0> Pastebin "postconf -n". Don't munge names.[23:24:38] *** Alexys has joined #postfix[23:59:48] *** Alexys has quit IRC