October 31, 2007 
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October 31, 2007 [00:04:54] *** _gAri- is now known as gAri-[00:05:13] *** pickcoder has quit IRC[00:05:37] <grigora> does anyone know how one address can be translated into another address outside of the /etc/alias? I have a server that does address translation/forwarding, but I can't find where it's configured to do that.[00:05:47] *** Motoko-chan has quit IRC[00:06:36] *** gAri- is now known as _gAri-[00:15:20] *** rajkohax has quit IRC[00:17:28] *** rmayorga has quit IRC[00:20:06] *** rootsvr has quit IRC[00:24:31] *** grigora has quit IRC[00:28:05] *** mark-use has quit IRC[00:33:18] <Mavvie> eeks... my whitelist/blacklist daemon isn't handling the current mail flood.[00:36:11] <Mavvie> it does do about 15 emails per second, resulting in 90 database queries per second.[00:37:57] <Mavvie> maybe I should cache the data locally instead of doing the queries on the database itself.[00:38:08] <Mavvie> after all, the hitrate on average is very low.[00:42:32] <gg__> can someone tell me what the difference is between postalias and postmap? it seems that redirections only work from /etc/mail/aliases (postalias); the entries in the postmap "lookup tables" are ignored...[00:44:15] <Mavvie> local mail delivery redirections are done via /etc/aliases[00:44:42] <Mavvie> MTA mail delivery redirections are done via etc/postfix/virtual (and that file is compiled with postmap)[00:44:47] <gg__> ohh.. that's why it ignored my lookup tables[00:45:51] <gg__> "MTA mail delivery redirection", as in "non-local" mail that should be relayed to another MTA for delivery?[00:46:37] <Mavvie> yes, email being received for an address in a domain this server is responsible for, but which should be delivered different:[00:46:50] <Mavvie> for example:[00:46:53] <Mavvie> fiveyears at mavetju dot org nwaizer at barnet dot com.au,edwin[00:47:27] <Mavvie> I'm responsible for receiving email for @mavetju.org, but the final delivery is done on a different machine.[00:49:33] <gg__> I'm confused... your postfix is running on mavetju.org, and anything sent to 'edwin at mavetju dot org' or 'nwaizer at barnet dot com.au' will be redirected to 'fiveyears at mavetju dot org' ?[00:50:03] <Mavvie> no, the other way around.[00:50:22] <Mavvie> anything send to fiveryears at mavetju dot org will be send to edwin at mavetju dot org and nwaizer at barnet dot com.au[00:51:20] <gg__> I see... one last questions... since edwin is on the same machine (e.g. local), shouldn't that entry go into /etc/aliases ?[00:51:25] <gg__> question*[00:51:51] <Mavvie> the machine this is on is not the final delivery for @mavetju.org, it is send to another machine.[00:55:19] <gg__> so the machine this is on is not mavetju.org ?[00:55:31] <Mavvie> it is the MX record for mavetju.org, but not the final delivery.[00:58:38] *** menace has joined #postfix[00:59:40] <menace> after updating my postfix, the mailuseragent thunderbird waits forever for courier-imapd, but login works (when i look at the logmessages)[00:59:48] <menace> does someone has a clue, why?[01:03:58] <gg__> Mavvie: say I have only one server (that acts as a webserver, mailserver, ..etc) and I have an MX entry for domain.tld pointing to it (e.g. an MX entry pointing to domain.tld, and an A entry for domain.tld pointing to the IP address of the server), then, normally, that would be the final destination for mail, and I wouldn't need to add anything to /etc/postfix/virtual (unless I need to forward mail somewhere else), correct?[01:04:29] *** oates|AFK is now known as oates[01:04:33] <Mavvie> true[01:05:16] *** war has quit IRC[01:05:18] <gg__> Great. Thanks a lot.[01:07:03] *** yannf is now known as yann|away[01:12:20] *** hparker has joined #postfix[01:14:06] *** rajkohax has joined #postfix[01:17:39] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[01:22:12] *** rmayorga_ has joined #postfix[01:23:26] *** rmayorga_ has quit IRC[01:23:35] *** rmayorga has joined #postfix[01:23:50] *** prebur has joined #postfix[01:31:27] *** rajkohaxor has quit IRC[01:35:51] *** pirho has quit IRC[01:51:55] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[02:14:44] *** duki has quit IRC[02:15:10] *** pitakill_ has joined #postfix[02:24:43] *** oates is now known as oates|zzZz[02:25:13] *** menace has quit IRC[02:28:28] *** rmayorga has quit IRC[02:35:00] *** Arcainus has joined #postfix[02:35:07] <Arcainus> morning[02:35:43] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[02:38:05] *** el_cubano has joined #postfix[02:39:19] <el_cubano> Hello. I am trying to get virtual aliases working in LDAP. Could someone help me out?[02:39:53] <el_cubano> When I setup ldap-users.cf and then run 'postmap -q foo@bar ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap-users.cf' it returns the right address.[02:39:57] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[02:40:24] <el_cubano> However, once I add it in the alias_maps in main.cf, all mail starts bouncing with "alias database unavailable"[02:41:30] <el_cubano> Anyone have any ideas?[02:58:03] <el_cubano> Anyone?[03:00:27] <rob0> 01:39 < el_cubano> Hello. I am trying to get virtual aliases working ... 01:40 < el_cubano> However, once I add it in the alias_maps in main.cf ...[03:00:49] <rob0> alias_maps IS NOT THE SAME as virtual_alias_maps[03:01:43] *** githogori has quit IRC[03:02:19] <Arcainus> can i ask a postgrey question here ? :/[03:02:52] <rob0> I think you just did.[03:02:57] <Arcainus> lol[03:03:12] <Arcainus> when i start postgrey[03:03:15] <Arcainus> i get this[03:03:18] <Arcainus> Starting postfix greylisting daemon: postgreyUse of uninitialized value in split at /usr/lib/perl5/Sys/Syslog.pm line 123.[03:03:46] <Arcainus> google tells me it's a bug?[03:03:58] <Arcainus> but i've tried like 4 versions already[03:05:21] <rob0> is the bug in postgrey, or in the Syslog CPAN module?[03:05:27] *** Tachy has joined #postfix[03:06:13] <el_cubano> rob0: Yes, well I am following the instructions here: http://www.postfix.org/LDAP_README.html[03:06:28] <el_cubano> So, I guess they are not really virtual aliases (apologies for wrong terminology)[03:07:09] <Arcainus> rob0, they tell me postgrey :/[03:07:19] <rob0> see also aliases.5.html[03:09:25] <Arcainus> hmmm[03:09:28] <Arcainus> i found my problem[03:09:30] <Arcainus> :D[03:10:32] <el_cubano> rob0: I don't see anything there that is helpful[03:15:17] <Arcainus> cpan -i Sys::Syslog[03:15:33] <Arcainus> it's 4:20am :/[03:15:58] <rob0> el_cubano: check the syntax. An alias_maps lookup key is "username:", the localpart of the address. See, it's more than just wrong terminology, you've probably implemented what you said you did.[03:16:42] <rob0> A virtual_alias_maps lookup key is "username at domain dot tld", the complete address.[03:17:55] *** Tachy_ has quit IRC[03:20:06] *** rmayorga has joined #postfix[03:21:00] *** xDie has quit IRC[03:22:07] <el_cubano> rob0: I do hav addresses of the form which includes the @domain. I've stripped those off. However, I still get: warning: dict_ldap_lookup: Search error 81: Can't contact LDAP server[03:22:28] <el_cubano> warning: process /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd pid 1246 exit status 2[03:22:35] <el_cubano> warning: /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd: bad command startup -- throttling[03:22:39] <rob0> chroot[03:23:27] <el_cubano> doh!! I thought I had unchrooted postfix on this server.[03:24:15] <rob0> don't forget the COLON[03:24:56] <rob0> It wasn't a typo when I said "username:".[03:25:05] *** rmayorga has quit IRC[03:25:38] <el_cubano> You mean in the alias in ldap?[03:26:04] <el_cubano> So, it would be roberto.sanchez: for a maildrop of roberto: ?[03:26:16] <rob0> si![03:26:59] <rob0> the KEY has a colon. The VALUE does not.[03:28:25] <rob0> The value is an email address, which could be a local user, another alias, or president at gov dot ru.[03:28:44] *** Motoko-chan has joined #postfix[03:29:46] *** rmayorga has joined #postfix[03:29:58] *** Arcainus has left #postfix[03:30:25] *** amrit|wrk is now known as amrit|afk[03:30:40] <el_cubano> rob0: Still getting "alias database unavailable"[03:30:53] <el_cubano> Also, I've unchrooted smtpd[03:31:07] <rob0> stopped, restarted?[03:31:12] <el_cubano> yes[03:31:40] <el_cubano> I get "can't connect to LDAP server" and then "alias database unavailable"[03:32:28] *** deevil has joined #postfix[03:36:30] *** rmayorga has quit IRC[03:37:18] <deevil> I'm having a problem setting up tls with postfix. Messages are being sent, but when I test with "openssl s_client -starttls smtp -crlf -connect mail.myhost.com:25" I get a "Verify return code: 19 (self signed certificate in certificate chain)" error... My cert is from godaddy, so it's chained. Can anyone please help me, to make sure I'm setting up the chain properly?[03:37:34] *** rmayorga has joined #postfix[03:39:50] <el_cubano> deevil: Hmm. When I run that same command on your server, I get "Verify return code: 18 (self signed certificate)"[03:39:54] <el_cubano> No error[03:42:45] *** solar_ant has joined #postfix[03:42:50] <Mavvie> but my guess is that mail.myhost.com isn't his mailhost.[03:44:32] <el_cubano> Interesting idea[03:47:02] *** solar678 has joined #postfix[03:47:11] *** xDie has joined #postfix[03:48:57] <schorpp> deevil, do You've got the godaddy CA cert and setup path to CAs in config right?[03:49:41] <schorpp> maybe You got the wrong CA cert, maybe not that that signed your cert[03:50:07] <schorpp> most CAs have more than one[03:50:35] <schorpp> several for CLASS I... II... III... IV[03:51:42] <schorpp> smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt ?[03:52:09] <schorpp> smtpd_tls_ccert_verifydepth = 3[03:54:58] <schorpp> get verify error:num=18:self signed certificate, too[04:01:50] *** solar_ant has quit IRC[04:05:15] <deevil> oops, sorry guys, I was afk..[04:05:21] *** solar678 has quit IRC[04:05:55] *** solar_ant has joined #postfix[04:07:41] *** xDie has quit IRC[04:07:49] <deevil> I have "smtpd_tls_key_file" pointing to a .pem file with my key, then my cert, then godaddy's "intermediate bundle" from their ssl repository... "smtpd_tls_cert_file" is pointing at the same file, currently. I had just my key in key_file and my cert and their certs in cert_file, but started changing things around hoping something would work... =/[04:08:02] <deevil> and yeah, my hostname isn't mail.myhost.com[04:08:18] <deevil> it's mail.idealinter.net if that helps...,[04:10:07] <schorpp> hmm[04:11:02] <el_cubano> deevil: I have smtpd_tls_cert_file, smtpd_tls_key_file, and smtpd_tls_CAfile all set[04:11:39] <el_cubano> The first two point to the certificate file in pem format. The last one points to the CA that signed the certificate[04:12:09] <deevil> el_cubano: hrmm. I'll try that now.. thanks![04:12:31] <deevil> should I put the whole 'intermediate bundle' in the CAfile .?[04:13:00] <el_cubano> I would[04:15:20] *** xDie has joined #postfix[04:15:32] <deevil> well, now it's saying "verify error:num=19:self signed certificate in certificate chain" and "verify return:0"[04:16:17] <schorpp> depth=3 /L=ValiCert Validation Network/O=ValiCert, Inc./OU=ValiCert Class 2 Policy Validation Authority/CN=http://www.valicert.com//emailAddress=info at valicert dot com[04:16:17] <schorpp> verify error:num=19:self signed certificate in certificate chain[04:17:27] *** solar567 has joined #postfix[04:18:53] <schorpp> tom3:~# dpkg -L ca-certificates |grep -i valicert[04:18:54] <schorpp> /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/ValiCert_Class_1_VA.crt[04:18:54] <schorpp> /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/ValiCert_Class_2_VA.crt[04:19:33] <schorpp> the intermediate seems missing here[04:19:50] *** follia has quit IRC[04:19:57] <deevil> ... so what's that mean..?[04:20:59] <deevil> I have a ca-cert.crt file with ValiCert's Class 3.. Should I put that into my CAfile I have..?[04:22:12] <schorpp> well, if you want peers accepting it they must have it installed too[04:22:19] <schorpp> you want that?[04:22:22] <deevil> ohh. i see. =/[04:22:48] *** follia has joined #postfix[04:23:07] <deevil> yeah, I'd prefer to have it working everywhere, without any extra effort. =)[04:25:51] <schorpp> but most peers do not smtpd_tls_req_ccert = yes and other forcing[04:26:46] <el_cubano> Right, but if he is doing TLS for users sending with authentication, they will see warnings[04:26:47] <schorpp> and transport layer auth makes only sense if Your server is on a dynIP ;)[04:27:07] <el_cubano> Arggh. Why won't LDAP work??[04:27:16] *** solar_ant has quit IRC[04:27:19] *** rajkosto has joined #postfix[04:29:00] <schorpp> el_cubano, my logs are full of such warnings, nobody cares, better care of avoiding weak encryption with RC4 and such[04:29:19] *** rajkohaxor has joined #postfix[04:29:46] <el_cubano> schorpp: Actually, the user's MUA will show a warning (like when you visit a website that has a self-signed cert or one from an unknown CA)[04:29:57] <schorpp> yesyes[04:30:16] <el_cubano> That may be what deevil is trying to avoid[04:30:43] <schorpp> deevil, is that so?[04:31:19] <schorpp> thought he only cares about WAN[04:32:18] <schorpp> beetween MTAs only[04:32:54] *** solar_ant has joined #postfix[04:33:39] <el_cubano> OK. If I have local users (and they also exist in LDAP) and I want to pull aliases from LDAP (so that, for example, I get mail sent to roberto.sanchez redirected to roberto), then where must the LDAP specification go? Under alias_maps, local_recipient_maps or virtual_alias_maps?[04:33:56] <deevil> well, on my workstation, I don't get any popups when sending or receiving messages over ssl. I'm setting up a site that's hosted elsewhere but uses my mailserver to deliver it's emails, and the other server isn't delivering messages to my server cause of this..[04:34:23] <el_cubano> The other server can be configured to not verify the CA.[04:34:40] <el_cubano> What is the other server running?[04:36:07] <schorpp> deevil, mozilla soft has it in... but I check if the cert is in the unstable package.. 1 min...[04:37:02] *** MorelOrel has joined #postfix[04:37:02] <deevil> I'm on freebsd, and I'm pretty sure it's freebsd too, but the web site is programmed in php, and connects to my server, does the starttls that's required by my server, and then bombs because of the trust issue.[04:37:05] <MorelOrel> what is this[04:37:17] <deevil> postfix mail server chat room[04:37:30] <schorpp> ^^[04:38:00] <deevil> it's a mail server for unix-like systems[04:38:21] <MorelOrel> what about patching this code into the source "if (jew <= human){throw jew into oven}"[04:38:38] <deevil> wow, you're an idiot[04:39:41] <MorelOrel> if (gypsy = athiest) {send to concentration camp}[04:40:03] <MorelOrel> printf "jews in the shower"[04:40:24] <deevil> op..?[04:40:27] <schorpp> can someone mail the OPs pls? :/[04:41:50] <MorelOrel> No ops to help you, hack bombs away![04:42:09] <MorelOrel> Okay, starting with _gAri-'s IP address....[04:42:09] <schorpp> sid (unstable) (misc): Common CA Certificates PEM files[04:42:09] <schorpp> 20070303: all[04:42:12] *** solar567 has quit IRC[04:42:21] <schorpp> is lates for debian[04:42:46] <MorelOrel> IP unlocked....[04:42:57] <MorelOrel> patching worms into registry.....[04:43:05] <deevil> IP unlocked..?? that doesnt even make sense. go away[04:43:15] <MorelOrel> wow, these hacking tools are fantastic![04:43:18] <deevil> script kiddy wannabe[04:43:32] <schorpp> deevil, dont feed the troll, use /ignore[04:43:33] <MorelOrel> unlocked as in, not protected[04:43:46] <MorelOrel> stupid jews[04:43:47] <deevil> unlocked, ad in stfu.[04:44:00] <Dominian> MorelOrel: You do realize your actions may get you a k-line?[04:44:05] <MorelOrel> shut the jew in the oven[04:44:06] *** rajkohax has quit IRC[04:44:13] <MorelOrel> what's kline[04:44:24] <MorelOrel> what's K-line?[04:44:27] <Dominian> MorelOrel: google it[04:44:32] <Dominian> Since you seem to be all knowing.[04:44:59] <MorelOrel> A full service company specializing in transportation of containerized and RoRo cargo between North America, Asia, Europe and the Mediterranean?[04:45:06] <schorpp> in germany he'll go party for years with 3 big guys in a prisoncell for such talk :D[04:45:35] <MorelOrel> K-Line Global Container Cargo Tracking / Tracing. ... "K" Line Group Companies. Click to Return to:. "K" Line Tokyo - World Headquarters · "K" Line America ...[04:45:36] *** [DHX] has joined #postfix[04:46:06] <Dominian> uh huh[04:46:08] *** LoRez has joined #postfix[04:46:12] <el_cubano> schorpp: Too bad that there are no such laws in Alaska[04:46:13] <MorelOrel> this is all I'm finding.....K-Line Electric Trains is a brand name of O gauge and S gauge model railway[04:46:13] <MorelOrel> locomotives, rolling stock, and buildings.[04:46:30] <MorelOrel> You don't know the exact location! Blah![04:46:54] <schorpp> just deliver him to us ;)[04:46:58] *** rajkosto has quit IRC[04:47:00] <MorelOrel> Anchorage? Where in anchorage?[04:47:05] <Dominian> hehe[04:47:22] <Dominian> Denali Street.. or at least close to it[04:47:36] <Dominian> I'd say within a few blocks[04:47:47] <MorelOrel> nope :) guess again[04:48:06] <el_cubano> MorelOrel: 1784 Hollowell Rd[04:48:07] <el_cubano> North Pole, AK[04:48:08] <MorelOrel> Denali's far away from where I am[04:48:11] *** nalioth has joined #postfix[04:48:17] <Dominian> MorelOrel: Not really[04:48:26] <MorelOrel> Chugiak silly![04:48:42] <MorelOrel> crap[04:48:47] <Dominian> MorelOrel: crap?[04:48:54] <LoRez> o/whois MorelOrel[04:49:43] <MorelOrel> bye then...[04:49:48] <MorelOrel> gone forever[04:49:52] <el_cubano> MorelOrel: Don't you want your phone number too?[04:50:01] <MorelOrel> what is it !?!?![04:50:04] <el_cubano> (907) 488-6845[04:50:16] <MorelOrel> oh, nope, phew[04:50:42] <Dominian> oh wait.[04:50:44] <Dominian> I know that ISP[04:50:49] <MorelOrel> silly kids, I'm using my neighbor's router :) :) :) :)[04:50:55] <Dominian> I'll send an email up to my buddy up there atht works for them.[04:51:29] <MorelOrel> Nooo![04:51:35] <MorelOrel> Please, I'll leave![04:51:42] <Dominian> nalioth: You work with Ubuntu I see[04:51:45] <MorelOrel> I'll leave you alone now....[04:51:46] <Dominian> sent[04:52:01] *** rajkohaxor has quit IRC[04:52:13] <MorelOrel> Hey[04:52:19] *** mwalling has joined #postfix[04:52:41] <MorelOrel> This place is too dangerous for me :([04:53:19] <MorelOrel> Bye![04:53:30] *** MorelOrel has left #postfix[04:53:38] <deevil> I just can't believe that you're so lame that you've got nothing else better to do, than sit in here and act like a jackass.[04:53:39] <mwalling> shucks[04:53:42] <deevil> oops[04:53:43] <mwalling> i missed the show[04:53:57] <mwalling> Dominian: your too slow :P[04:54:31] <schorpp> deevil, from my perpective you got 2 option: 1. mail valicert they should contact freebsd for inclusion[04:54:57] <el_cubano> I thought he said it was a GoDaddy cert[04:55:02] <nalioth> Dominian: i do a thing or two with the rest of the Ubuntu folks[04:55:09] * Dominian nods[04:55:29] <Dominian> deevil: its ok.. he bought the line of me emailing my administrator buddy[04:55:29] <schorpp> 2. mail the "problem MTA peer" admin to forget CA forcing, is not usuable practice[04:55:35] <Dominian> Funny thing is.. I do know a guy that works there ;)[04:55:50] <schorpp> el_cubano, signed by valicert[04:55:50] <Dominian> nalioth: I've trie dit once...[04:56:15] <deevil> I checked on my server, it's there, but you have to install the security/ca-roots port ... maybe the other server doesn't have this installed..?[04:56:17] <Dominian> nalioth: Use slackware by default.. however.. I think my wife would be better suited to use Ubuntu.. I made a deal with her.. I fix my old laptop.. she uses ubuntu for a month.. if she does't like it.. I stick Windows back on.[04:56:40] <el_cubano> Dominian: I like how he tried to claim that he was using his neighbor's router :-)[04:56:53] <schorpp> 3 s:/L=ValiCert Validation Network/O=ValiCert, Inc./OU=ValiCert Class 2 Policy Validation Authority/CN=http://www.valicert[04:57:02] <Dominian> el_cubano: Yeah.. considering he wasn't[04:57:02] <schorpp> and it is class II not III[04:57:05] <Dominian> el_cubano: I scanned it[04:57:05] <nalioth> Dominian: so long as you are around to translate "Internet Explorer = Firefox" "Notepad = gedit" and suchlike[04:57:15] <Dominian> nalioth: haha.. I think my wife knows that much already[04:57:21] <Dominian> I use linux on everything except her PC[04:57:26] <nalioth> ah[04:57:44] <mwalling> Dominian: dropline :)[04:57:56] *** githogori has joined #postfix[04:58:27] <Dominian> mwalling: haha .. no[04:58:30] <Dominian> I despise gnome[04:58:36] <Dominian> and I hate xfce because it LOOKS like gnome.[04:59:01] *** DHX has quit IRC[05:00:01] <el_cubano> WindowMaker is the way to go[05:00:12] <Dominian> heh[05:00:14] <Dominian> fluxbox or KDE for me[05:00:34] <deevil> os x =)[05:02:35] <kgoetz> :o[05:03:48] *** Arafangion has left #postfix[05:04:21] <Dominian> deevil: If I had OS X.. I would probably agree[05:09:17] <deevil> Dominian: heh, well I hear the Leopard GM has already been cracked to run on Intels supporting SSE3[05:09:26] <Dominian> hah[05:09:30] <Dominian> Figures[05:17:56] *** MorelOrel has joined #postfix[05:18:17] <MorelOrel> what is unix?[05:19:27] <MorelOrel> where can I get postfix?[05:19:53] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o hparker[05:20:21] <hparker> MorelOrel: for unix ask google, to get postfix go to postfix.org[05:20:31] <MorelOrel> ok[05:20:53] <MorelOrel> is it compatable with windows vista?[05:21:11] <hparker> I kinda doubt it, it only runs on real OSs[05:21:54] <MorelOrel> vista is an OS, the newest windows, right?[05:22:07] <thumbs> troll much?[05:22:10] <hparker> A toy OS, yes[05:22:15] <schorpp> deevil, lol, openssl s_client -starttls smtp -crlf -connect localhost:25 says 19 here too[05:22:27] <Dominian> hparker: same guy from before.. I have the log posted if you wish to see it and missed it[05:22:36] <thumbs> vista is the perfect word to associate to 'wintendo'[05:22:45] <hparker> Dominian: Oh? link me please[05:22:52] <schorpp> we miss to specify a CA file/path[05:22:57] <Dominian> hparker: http://slackadelic.com/files/moron_log.txt ;P[05:22:58] <MorelOrel> it was for shock value![05:23:16] <MorelOrel> i wasn't serious about that stuff![05:23:19] <thumbs> MorelOrel: ok. Bye.[05:23:26] <Dominian> MorelOrel: You were still anti-sementic and racist.[05:23:39] <MorelOrel> semetic*[05:24:20] <Dominian> Either way[05:24:32] <MorelOrel> Wait.[05:24:45] <Dominian> MorelOrel: I'm sorry.. if you came up to my afce in public and said that.. then walked away and came back later and say.. "Oh I didn' tmean" I'd still punch you dead in the face.[05:25:09] <schorpp> deevil, but my server lists all acceptable CAs he knows...[05:25:13] <Dominian> Morality of the story is: Whether you say it here or in real life.. I'd still punch you in the face.[05:25:38] <MorelOrel> and they used illegal stuff to track my IP![05:25:53] <hparker> what illegal stuff?[05:26:00] <Dominian> MorelOrel: /whois is far from illegal[05:26:20] <MorelOrel> but they figured down to my phone number[05:26:22] <Dominian> MorelOrel: I could probably tell you what operating system you were running right now if I took the time.[05:26:38] <MorelOrel> of course, it said above[05:26:53] <schorpp> deemon, /L=ValiCert Validation Network/O=ValiCert, Inc./OU=ValiCert Class 3 Policy Validation Authority/CN=http://www.valicert.com//emailAddress=info at valicert dot com[05:27:01] <schorpp> + C2,1[05:27:04] <MorelOrel> but how did you track me?[05:27:10] <schorpp> fsck[05:27:13] <schorpp> deevil,[05:27:19] <schorpp> sorry deemon[05:27:51] <MorelOrel> what's all that stuff for, schorpp?[05:28:19] <thumbs> that tool is annoying the hell out of me[05:28:52] <el_cubano> thumbs: '/help ignore' is your friend[05:28:59] <Dominian> aye[05:29:03] * Dominian already ignored him[05:29:08] *** hparker sets mode: +b *!*n=David@161-151-58-66.gci.net[05:29:09] *** MorelOrel was kicked by hparker (hparker)[05:29:12] <thumbs> or he could be kicked.[05:29:14] <hparker> ooppsss[05:29:16] <Dominian> pfft hahaha[05:29:22] <hparker> Wrong button, sorry[05:29:22] <Dominian> hparker: le tme guess.. you finished reading the log?[05:29:25] <hparker> yeah[05:29:26] <kgoetz> lol[05:29:29] <Dominian> hparker: :)[05:29:32] <schorpp> deemon, openssl s_client [-connect host:port] [-verify depth] [-cert filename] [-certform DER|PEM] [-key filename][05:29:32] <schorpp> [-keyform DER|PEM] [-pass arg] [-CApath directory] [-CAfile filename][05:29:34] <thumbs> hparker: thanks.[05:29:41] <kgoetz> i was about to +1 kick request[05:29:55] <Dominian> I think hparker meant to /ban on that one[05:29:56] <schorpp> deevil[05:30:01] <Dominian> is why he meant "oops"[05:30:14] <Dominian> anyway.. night[05:30:18] <hparker> naw, sheer sarcasm ;)[05:30:23] <Dominian> haha[05:30:24] <kgoetz> :)[05:30:36] *** kk_CHN has joined #postfix[05:30:48] *** aaronc_ has joined #postfix[05:33:18] <el_cubano> Dominian: Did you ever figure out his OS?[05:34:44] <schorpp> deevil, openssl s_client -starttls smtp -crlf -CAfile /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt -connect mail.idealinter.net:25 -> Verify return code: 0 (ok) :)[05:35:37] <kgoetz> hi all. i'mi following the dspam integration instructions that ship with debian, and it tells me to add a line to main.cf. " -o content_filter=lmtp:unix:/tmp/dspam.sock". is there somewhere i can put this in master.cf instead?[05:36:49] <schorpp> deevil, mail peer MTA admin, request CA list maintenaince ;)[05:36:50] *** ovd has quit IRC[05:36:53] *** ovd has joined #postfix[05:37:26] <kgoetz> the instructions in question are http://pastebin.ca/756106[05:37:45] <deevil> schorpp: yeah, I figured it out, I installed the ca-roots port on one of my nameservers, and using "-CAfile /usr/local/share/certs/ca-root.crt" in the openssl command made things work..[05:38:02] <deevil> schorpp: so I mailed that jackass and told him what's up. =)[05:38:11] <schorpp> :D sorry for not helping out quicklier ;)[05:38:19] *** Edward123 has quit IRC[05:38:34] <deevil> doh, no prob. I'm just glad I got it fixed, you guys have been great help![05:38:42] <schorpp> :)[05:39:18] <deevil> calling godaddy made me contemplate a bullet in the head.. their "specialists" that "aren't certified in servers"[05:39:23] <el_cubano> kgoetz: The instructions already tell you to put the lines in master.cf[05:39:59] <schorpp> deevil, lol, flirt with hotline girls? :D[05:40:43] <deevil> they sent me an email telling me they couldn't connect to my host on port 443, so I must not have things setup properly, and that they require a static ip, and to contact my isp if I needed one. I almost died laughing.[05:40:45] <kgoetz> el_cubano: i got my masters and mains the wrong way around.[05:41:11] <deevil> I told them "mail server using port 25 for smtp with tls" numerous times[05:41:14] *** smagy2 has joined #postfix[05:41:29] *** aaronc has quit IRC[05:41:59] <deevil> schorpp: hehe, I called back 3 times and got the same girl. she didn't sound like I'd want to flirt with her.. :D[05:42:11] <deevil> I kinda wanted to punch her[05:42:50] <deevil> or ask her how she got hired... they must be reading a FAQ in a 3 ring binder over there.[05:42:54] <schorpp> deevil, well some older servers require tom3:~# grep smtps /etc/services[05:42:54] <schorpp> ssmtp 465/tcp smtps # SMTP over SSL[05:42:58] <schorpp> ;)[05:43:01] <kgoetz> i would rather edit main.cf then master.cf :)[05:43:52] <deevil> schorpp: yeah, I know that, but mine's set for 25, and it's required to relay, but not to deliver to local users[05:43:59] <schorpp> k[05:44:34] <deevil> they were just idiots. assuming I was installing into apache or lighttpd[05:45:02] <smagy2> hello folks, when i try to use thunderbird to send mail via smtp tls enabled i get the error unable to connect to smtp server foobar.com via starttls since it doesn't offer starttls in ehlo response, please verify your mail/news setup. i do have output of postconf | grep smtp | grep -v '= ' | grep tls at http://rafb.net/p/CPtOej25.html a telnet foobar.com smtp is also there. i would appreciate somehelp as to where i am[05:46:59] <schorpp> deevil, lol, well i've got 465 accessible from WAN, too[05:47:39] *** hparker sets mode: -o hparker[05:47:58] <smagy2> i get the error saying relaying denied when i try just 25. the imap access with dovecot works just fine though. i am able to send mails user at foobar dot com but, when i try to send xyz at abc dot com it says relaying, access denied, when i use just smtp with no tls[05:48:11] <schorpp> for anybody requiring it, sendmail etc :D[05:51:01] <deevil> schorpp: hrm. should I have postfix listening on 25 and 465 ?[05:51:12] <schorpp> i would[05:51:37] <deevil> schorpp: I'll set that up then. thanks. you said you're in germany, btw?[05:51:38] <el_cubano> kgoetz: Why? It doesn't make much difference (other than editing master.cf is loads easier for you want to do; assuming it is even possible to put it in main.cf)[05:51:39] <schorpp> read about, some MTAs require it[05:51:58] <schorpp> yes deevil be in DE[05:52:20] <kgoetz> el_cubano: i was hoping to keep all my changes in one place[05:52:24] <deevil> lucky. =)[05:52:49] <deevil> I'm sitting here in the us, drinking dinkel acker, wishing i was in de.[05:52:52] <schorpp> err... but i hope postfix can handle the protocol, without starttls?[05:53:20] <schorpp> deevil, it is called dinkel kacker here lol[05:53:29] <schorpp> we drink hoepfner[05:53:38] <schorpp> city beer[05:53:47] <deevil> cool[05:53:48] <el_cubano> kgoetz: That's what subversion (or your favorite VCS) was invented for[05:54:05] <kgoetz> el_cubano: not exactly...[05:55:26] <schorpp> well I think the old smtps SSL handshake without STARTTLS is no more anywhere in use *hope*[05:56:31] *** raasdnil_ has joined #postfix[05:56:53] <raasdnil_> Hey guys... anyone got a good mailing list for Email related RFC implementation questions?[05:57:01] *** raasdnil_ is now known as raasdnil[05:59:20] <schorpp> raasdnil, ietf-smtp at imc dot org[05:59:33] <f3ew> heh[05:59:39] <schorpp> no?[05:59:46] <f3ew> schorpp what protocol?[06:00:15] <schorpp> dontknow ^^[06:00:33] <raasdnil> I am trying to work out an email encoding problem WRT line wrapping lonx X- header fields and the insertion and discarding of the CRLFLWSP sequence, what is cocher and what is not...[06:00:56] <schorpp> uh[06:00:57] <raasdnil> s/lonx/long[06:01:28] <deevil> schorpp: I've got hacker-pschorr, hofbr?u hefe weizen, dinkel acker and warsteiner dunkel in my fridge.. you guys have all the good beer. I'd move there if your gun laws didn't suck.. =)[06:01:57] <schorpp> what gun laws? :D[06:03:43] <raasdnil> schorpp: that mailing list looks like the ticket, thanks.[06:05:16] <deevil> schorpp: ... so I could legally bring my handguns, rifles and shotguns to germany?[06:06:02] <schorpp> depends on how good with customs avoiding You are ;)[06:06:52] <schorpp> well no.[06:07:13] <deevil> hehe, yeah.[06:07:18] <schorpp> were more like canadians[06:07:38] <deevil> heh, okay..[06:08:01] <schorpp> remember, germans with guns were not good to the rest of the world, 2 times in history :([06:08:16] <deevil> yeah, but that was a long time ago[06:08:33] <schorpp> never to be forgotten![06:08:37] <deevil> no, never[06:08:50] <deevil> but it shouldn't mean no guns in germany, ever.[06:09:02] <deevil> shit, you still have a military anyways.[06:09:07] <schorpp> and I don't see were any good to afghanistan nowadays :/[06:09:21] <deevil> it's just that they don't want armed civilians.[06:09:22] *** cilly has quit IRC[06:09:34] <deevil> so I stay here, where it sucks.[06:09:47] <deevil> you don't listen to ebm, do you?[06:09:51] <schorpp> city? NY? :D[06:10:01] <deevil> no, near miami, fl[06:10:10] <schorpp> no I like metal+numetal eheh[06:10:11] <deevil> hot, huricanes, life sucks.[06:10:30] <deevil> cool, so do I, but a lot of the great idustrial stuff comes from there[06:10:47] <schorpp> blackforest fog and cold rain here, You like that? :([06:10:49] *** cilly has joined #postfix[06:10:50] <deevil> I thought it was funny how you guys dance to slayer in the clubs.., =)[06:11:05] <deevil> city?[06:11:26] <schorpp> slayer is fine, got a recording from www.rockpalast.de[06:11:39] <schorpp> cool concert this summer[06:12:10] <schorpp> city karlsruhe 49N,17,8E (?)[06:12:21] *** Delphonica has joined #postfix[06:12:24] <Delphonica> hello[06:12:30] <deevil> cool.[06:12:58] <deevil> spent time in munich, berlin, amsterdam[06:13:06] *** hooch has quit IRC[06:13:06] <deevil> when I went[06:13:07] *** growltiger has quit IRC[06:13:08] *** hooch_ has joined #postfix[06:13:13] <schorpp> climate is best of europe here[06:13:21] <deevil> yeah, it's great[06:13:23] <schorpp> but earthquake region[06:13:33] <schorpp> see www.iris.edu[06:13:38] <Delphonica> I live in alaska.[06:13:41] *** raasdnil has left #postfix[06:13:42] <Delphonica> It's cold here.[06:14:00] *** smagy2 has quit IRC[06:14:10] <Delphonica> Where's the ops?[06:14:15] <deevil> ohh, earthquakes are scary...[06:14:48] <deevil> i'm moving out of fl, so i don't have to worry about hurricanes taking power and internet down. servers like power and internet.[06:14:49] <Delphonica> I thought I was banned[06:15:09] <kk_CHN> Hi schorpp can you have a look on :http://pastebin.ca/756120[06:15:22] *** amrit|afk is now known as amrit[06:15:23] <schorpp> what is there? ^^[06:15:30] *** Motoko-chan has quit IRC[06:15:51] <Delphonica> Seems they can't ban me for long, eh?[06:15:52] <kk_CHN> my local users cant use a web mail interface[06:16:29] <schorpp> Delphonica, take Your pills, pls[06:16:37] <schorpp> :D[06:16:54] <Delphonica> I'm that same person, Dolphin91[06:17:03] <deevil> schorpp: I'm going to take off. thanks again for all the help!![06:17:08] <schorpp> cu[06:17:22] <Delphonica> How am I able to get in when the ops banned me?[06:17:31] *** deevil has quit IRC[06:18:29] <LoRez> you've changed your IP[06:18:44] <LoRez> ban evading isn't nice.[06:18:48] <Delphonica> I can change my IP?[06:19:03] <schorpp> hparker sets ban on *!*n=David at 161-151-58-66 dot gci.net[06:19:14] <kk_CHN> schorpp, : is ther any suggestion to fix the issue[06:19:25] <schorpp> Delphonica, see interpol, dude[06:19:35] *** LoRez sets mode: +b *!*@*-*-58-66.gci.net[06:20:24] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o hparker[06:20:31] *** Delphonica was kicked by hparker (hparker)[06:20:49] *** hooch_ is now known as hooch[06:20:56] <hparker> LoRez: your ban looks like it'll work better, thanks[06:21:01] <LoRez> :)[06:21:05] <schorpp> kk_CHN, sorry, i'm not a webdesigner ;)[06:21:10] <LoRez> unfortunately it's way more broad.[06:21:15] *** Bambi_BO1H has joined #postfix[06:21:19] *** hparker sets mode: -o hparker[06:21:24] <LoRez> but, it seems he's got a /16 to play in.[06:21:26] <hparker> LoRez: Pull it in a week[06:21:29] <hparker> ouch[06:21:36] <LoRez> you can pull it anytime[06:21:43] <hparker> Well, he said he's stealing the neighbors connection, so...[06:21:53] <hparker> kk[06:22:00] *** kgoetz has quit IRC[06:22:10] *** Bambi_BO1H is now known as kgoetz[06:22:23] <kk_CHN> hi hparker[06:22:30] <schorpp> acceptable, only 1 of 100 neighbours knows freenode.net ;)[06:22:59] <kk_CHN> schorpp, its not a web design issue its a postfix-postfixadmin issue[06:23:14] <hparker> kk_CHN: sorry about the hilight :P[06:23:21] <schorpp> dont use it, no experience, sorry[06:23:54] *** Tachy_ has joined #postfix[06:23:59] <f3ew> Hmmmm[06:24:30] *** amrit has quit IRC[06:24:34] <hparker> kk_CHN: If the users are virtual they have no local accounts, you could alias them[06:25:03] <hparker> Or set their MUA properly[06:27:13] <kk_CHN> hparker, there local users exist in my server , I followed a Doc on net ,so the problem is now virtualusers@virtual domain can access the squirrelmail interface , but the real(local users in my server ) cannot login to squirrel mail[06:27:36] <hparker> they can if they use the proper credentials[06:27:43] <hparker> Oh, wait[06:27:56] <hparker> you'll have to use a subdomain for th elocal users[06:28:08] <schorpp> err.. guys...[06:28:11] <hparker> Well, that's the easy way at least[06:28:33] <schorpp> what about my "relay leak"?[06:28:41] <schorpp> Oct 30 22:36:05 tom3 postfix/smtp[11765]: 86B052F777: to=<confirm-return-Alasdairkozka=tom1.schorpp.dyndns.dk at returns dot groups.yahoo.com>, relay=rtn8.grp.scd.yahoo.com[66.218.66.215]:25, delay=71, delays=0.04/0.21/64/6.7, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 ok 1193783765 qp 29481)[06:28:54] <schorpp> this should not happen[06:29:07] <hparker> why shouldn't it send mail to yahoo?[06:29:25] <schorpp> cause it received it with this FROM[06:29:30] <schorpp> before[06:29:50] <hparker> FROM doesn't natter if you supplied proper credentials or ar in mynetworks[06:29:57] <schorpp> from non relay-configured net[06:30:03] <hparker> you can send From: santa at northpole dot com[06:30:18] <hparker> pastebin the whole transaction[06:30:26] <schorpp> ok i grep it[06:30:33] *** amrit has joined #postfix[06:31:06] *** Tachy has quit IRC[06:32:42] *** Motoko-chan has joined #postfix[06:33:03] *** pitakill has quit IRC[06:33:03] *** L|NUX has joined #postfix[06:33:08] <L|NUX> hello every one[06:33:45] <Motoko-chan> Hello[06:34:17] *** DHX- has joined #postfix[06:34:20] <L|NUX> how are you Moto[06:35:14] <schorpp> Oct 30 22:34:54 tom3 postfix/cleanup[32407]: 86B052F777: message-id=<20071030223454.86B052F777 at tom3 dot schorpp.dyndns.dk>[06:35:14] <schorpp> Oct 30 22:34:54 tom3 postfix/qmgr[4703]: 86B052F777: from=<>, size=4231, nrcpt=1 (queue active)[06:35:14] <schorpp> Oct 30 22:34:54 tom3 postfix/bounce[32442]: EDCBA2F6D8: sender non-delivery notification: 86B052F777[06:36:12] <L|NUX> basically i have installed postfix as mail relay and antispam/antivirus stmp gateway to relay my emails every thing is fine but when some one send an email to allowed email i got ****possible SPAM**** in subject[06:36:41] <schorpp> Oct 30 22:34:53 tom3 postfix/smtpd[7146]: EDCBA2F6D8: client=n23a.bullet.scd.yahoo.com[209.73.160.68][06:36:41] <schorpp> Oct 30 22:34:54 tom3 postfix/cleanup[32407]: EDCBA2F6D8: message-id=<1193743571.106.43165.m48 at yahoogroups dot com>[06:36:41] <schorpp> Oct 30 22:34:54 tom3 postfix/qmgr[4703]: EDCBA2F6D8: from=<confirm-return-Alasdairkozka=tom1.schorpp.dyndns.dk at returns dot groups.yahoo.com>, size=2205, nrcpt=1 (queue active)[06:36:41] <schorpp> Oct 30 22:34:54 tom3 postfix/smtp[32430]: EDCBA2F6D8: to=<Alasdairkozka at tom1 dot schorpp.dyndns.dk>, relay=none, delay=1.8, delays=1.8/0/0.01/0, dsn=5.4.6, status=bounced (mail for tom1.schorpp.dyndns.dk loops back to myself)[06:36:44] <schorpp> oops[06:36:54] <L|NUX> schorpp : sir please use pastebin.ca[06:36:55] <schorpp> grr too much sorry for flooding[06:37:04] <schorpp> yesyes[06:37:14] <L|NUX> can any one help me with my problem[06:37:38] <schorpp> hmm wait[06:37:41] <L|NUX> k[06:38:37] <hparker> L|NUX: You need to look into your spamassassin and/or amavisd-new setup.. postfix has nothing to do with that other then moving the mail[06:38:47] <schorpp> from who you get the warning header?[06:38:54] <schorpp> k[06:39:36] *** _bugz_ has joined #postfix[06:40:05] *** rajkosto has joined #postfix[06:41:29] <L|NUX> hparker : humm[06:41:32] <schorpp> ok i see, bounce, not relay[06:41:44] <L|NUX> hparker : i could not find any thing :([06:42:09] <L|NUX> i have seen same amavis-new configuration working fine with another setup[06:42:30] <hparker> It's one of the two, that much I can tell you[06:42:55] <L|NUX> hummm[06:43:16] *** [DHX] has quit IRC[06:47:22] <L|NUX> hparker : how can i debug this problem[06:47:26] <L|NUX> any idea brother ?[06:48:35] <hparker> look around spamassassin.org and read spamassassin-users mailing list... There's a lot of ways to mess up spamassassin to do that.. Set scores to low, trusted networks, etc[06:50:56] *** solar_ant has quit IRC[06:51:33] *** solar_ant has joined #postfix[06:57:50] *** _bugz_ has quit IRC[07:13:01] *** hparker has quit IRC[07:19:04] *** kgoetz has quit IRC[07:19:08] *** kgoetz has joined #postfix[07:32:33] *** bosyak has joined #postfix[07:35:25] <L|NUX> i get these errors[07:35:26] <L|NUX> warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping, in "/etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf": use bayes 1[07:35:35] <L|NUX> warn: config: failed to parse, now a plugin, skipping, in "/etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf": ok_languages all[07:35:42] <L|NUX> how can i fix them ?[07:45:43] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[07:49:29] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[08:01:05] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[08:02:14] *** amrit is now known as amrit|zzz[08:04:00] *** solar_ant has quit IRC[08:10:31] *** Zeit|awy has quit IRC[08:14:48] *** mwalling1 has joined #postfix[08:19:52] *** mwalling2 has joined #postfix[08:22:27] <bosyak> why it's won't work? smtpd_client_restrictions = regexp:/etc/postfix/dsl_stoplist.txt[08:22:45] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[08:23:04] <bosyak> but this work: star# postmap -q "dsl85-107-4981.ttnet.net.tr" regexp:/etc/postfix/dsl_stoplist.txt[08:23:04] <bosyak> 553 AUTO_DSL You have been identified as a spammer. Go Away.[08:23:36] <bosyak> is it possible some how debug postfix?[08:31:03] *** mwalling has quit IRC[08:31:44] *** mwalling1 has quit IRC[08:43:05] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[08:54:04] *** unixwheel has quit IRC[08:56:17] *** pitakill_ has quit IRC[09:01:23] *** war has joined #postfix[09:02:11] *** pitakill has quit IRC[09:04:41] *** ^Willie^Laptop has joined #postfix[09:06:36] <^Willie^Laptop> morning[09:07:31] *** harobed has joined #postfix[09:08:49] *** duki has joined #postfix[09:15:09] *** Edward123 has joined #postfix[09:15:34] <L|NUX> morning[09:15:41] <L|NUX> ^Willie^Laptop: how are you doing[09:16:20] <Edward123> hullo fella[09:16:35] <L|NUX> Edward123: y0[09:17:22] *** duki has quit IRC[09:17:39] <L|NUX> Edward123 : i have configured antispam/antivirus stmp gateway to relay my emails but when i sent email to my emails i got possible SPAM message in subject :([09:18:17] <Edward123> hmm you need to checkout the spamassassin score that's getting assigned on your mails to find out why[09:18:31] <Edward123> run spamassassin -D -t /path/to/your/mail[09:18:32] <L|NUX> Edward123: how can i find that ?[09:18:37] <L|NUX> ok[09:18:38] <L|NUX> wait[09:18:43] <Edward123> i have mailscanner which tags that info onto the header[09:19:32] <L|NUX> Edward123 : humm[09:19:51] <L|NUX> can you tell me how can i find my mail path as these mails get deleted after delivery[09:20:17] *** rootsvr has joined #postfix[09:21:21] *** duki has joined #postfix[09:21:39] *** die_z has joined #postfix[09:23:32] *** Motoko-chan has quit IRC[09:23:46] <Edward123> hrm L|NUX you're going to need to find a way of storing them, and as mailscanner sorts this out for me i'm not sure how you'd do it directly with postfix/spamassassin[09:23:53] <Edward123> google for a way to archive e-mails with postfix[09:25:35] <L|NUX> hummm[09:25:36] <L|NUX> ok[09:25:36] <Edward123> i'd recommend reading the man page for spamassassin too[09:25:43] <L|NUX> brb inberiew[09:25:54] *** rootsvr has quit IRC[09:26:24] <^Willie^Laptop> L|NUX: can be better[09:33:20] *** rootsvr has joined #postfix[09:34:49] *** cutmasta has joined #postfix[09:35:01] *** rokra has joined #postfix[09:36:06] *** bosyak has quit IRC[09:36:25] *** bosyak has joined #postfix[09:37:08] *** bosyak has quit IRC[09:40:16] *** bosyak has joined #postfix[09:47:32] *** _bugz_ has joined #postfix[09:48:24] <^Willie^Laptop> it is posible to define to content filters ?[09:48:31] <^Willie^Laptop> to=two[09:49:51] <Edward123> hrm don't suppose there are any cyrus wizards about are there?[09:49:59] <Edward123> i'm using cyrus + ldap. i want the users to be authenticated like user+host (e.g. info at madduck dot co.uk) but i want the cyrus admin when it logs in via 'cyradm' to be authenticated like user (just `cyrus`). i specify -r in my /etc/saslauthd. any idea how i can go about fixing this?[09:50:07] *** phnord has joined #postfix[09:50:20] <lennard> ^Willie^Laptop: yup, just chain them[09:50:58] <Edward123> or is there a way to specify the admin of one realm (e.g. cyrus at netring dot co.uk) can create virtual domains in other realms (e.g. cyrus at netring dot co.uk creating info at madduck dot co.uk)? this is all based in cyradm[09:50:59] <^Willie^Laptop> chain ?[09:51:22] <lennard> smtpd->filter1->smtpd->filter2->smtpd[09:51:53] *** rokra has quit IRC[09:52:27] <^Willie^Laptop> smtp inet n - n - 20 smtpd[09:52:30] <^Willie^Laptop> -o smtpd_proxy_filter=127.0.0.1:10025[09:52:31] <^Willie^Laptop> -o smtpd_client_connection_count_limit=10[09:52:33] <^Willie^Laptop> -o content_filter=spamassassin[09:52:44] <^Willie^Laptop> the smtpd proxy filter works before the queue ..[09:52:44] *** ming_zym has quit IRC[09:53:02] <^Willie^Laptop> then spamassassin is not working .. if i remote the smtpd prox it just works ..[09:53:19] <lennard> defining both a prox_filter and a content_filter seems like it'll never work the way you intend it[09:53:39] <^Willie^Laptop> my idea whas/is[09:54:24] <^Willie^Laptop> postfix -> postgrey -> clam -> postfix queue -> spamassassin -> destination mailbox[09:54:45] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[09:55:05] <^Willie^Laptop> postgrey wil return 450 the known story and clam will return 5xx when a virus is found .. from then spam get marked and still delivered to the recipient[09:55:37] <lennard> lose the content_filter bit[09:55:57] <lennard> add a master.cf entry with an smtpd which clamav deliveres mail to[09:56:07] *** growltiger has joined #postfix[09:56:10] <lennard> give it the options -o smtpd_proxy_filter= and -o content_filter=spamassassin[09:56:21] <lennard> thats how I'd do it anyway ;)[09:56:58] <^Willie^Laptop> huh?[09:57:14] <^Willie^Laptop> lennard is that not exactly what i did ?[09:57:18] <lennard> no[09:57:34] <lennard> you tried using smtpd_proxy_filter and content_filter in one master.cf entry[09:57:40] <lennard> that'll never work[09:57:43] <^Willie^Laptop> ok ..[09:57:58] <^Willie^Laptop> can i create 2 identical entry`s then[09:58:08] <^Willie^Laptop> uuhhm almosth identical :)[09:58:14] <lennard> almost, yes ;)[09:58:25] <^Willie^Laptop> one with spamassassin and one with clam ..[09:58:43] *** whatever__ has joined #postfix[09:59:01] <^Willie^Laptop> smtp inet n - n - 20 smtpd[09:59:03] <^Willie^Laptop> -o smtpd_proxy_filter=127.0.0.1:10025[09:59:05] <^Willie^Laptop> -o smtpd_client_connection_count_limit=10[09:59:06] <^Willie^Laptop> smtp inet n - n - 20 smtpd[09:59:08] <^Willie^Laptop> -o content_filter=spamassassin[09:59:09] <^Willie^Laptop> like this ?[09:59:24] * ^Willie^Laptop expect an error somehow ..[09:59:28] <lennard> no, changing the 'smtp' of the second one to a portnumber[09:59:50] <lennard> which daemon is running at 10025?[10:01:02] <lennard> ~ shower[10:01:14] <^Willie^Laptop> uuhhmm[10:01:55] *** unixtippse has quit IRC[10:02:10] *** unixtippse has joined #postfix[10:02:31] <^Willie^Laptop> 127.0.0.1:10025 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 29989/clamsmtpd[10:02:32] <^Willie^Laptop> 127.0.0.1:10026 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 17379/master[10:02:34] <^Willie^Laptop> 127.0.0.1:10030 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 931/postgrey.pid --[10:02:37] <^Willie^Laptop> 127.0.0.1:783 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 16279/spamd.pid -m[10:02:39] <^Willie^Laptop> 0.0.0.0:25 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 17379/master[10:02:40] <^Willie^Laptop>[10:03:13] <^Willie^Laptop> some how the examples in the spamassassin manuals tell to use spamd via unix socket ... and it have an tcp socket[10:04:17] *** nfi|ermes has joined #postfix[10:11:39] *** Zeit|idle has joined #postfix[10:12:00] *** Lap_64 has joined #postfix[10:12:26] <lennard> ^Willie^Laptop: zo remove the content_filter from the smtp line, add it to the 10026 line, and make another line like 10026 but on a different port and let spamassassin redirect its mail there[10:13:16] <^Willie^Laptop> nc 127.0.0.1 783[10:13:23] <kk_CHN> lennard, Hi can you spend a littile bit time for me[10:13:26] <^Willie^Laptop> hmmzz is it not posible to use that tcp port ..[10:13:32] <^Willie^Laptop> but i`ll try[10:13:51] <kk_CHN> lennard, http://pastebin.ca/756211[10:14:35] <lennard> kk_CHN: not really, I shouldnt be helping anyone as it is, I really should be preparing for my exams :)[10:14:47] <lennard> although I'll say this:[10:15:09] <lennard> when a domain has no MX record, the RFCs define that one should fall back to A records for that domain[10:15:26] <kk_CHN> okay[10:15:29] <lennard> thats probably why it works :)[10:16:11] <kk_CHN> my first question?[10:16:30] <lennard> thats entirely up to you[10:16:30] *** follia has quit IRC[10:16:36] <lennard> its just a naming-scheme :)[10:16:51] <lennard> presonally I tend to simply use the emaail-address as accountname[10:19:35] *** rootsvr has quit IRC[10:21:44] <kk_CHN> my problem is now I, I have a domain www.mydomain.net , and by using postfix admin i created(a new domain mydomain.net )& 5 users at mydomain dot net , But the issue is now I can't sent /receive any mails by using these user accounts , I am using squirrel mail webclient[10:22:00] <kk_CHN> lennard, top[10:24:02] <kk_CHN> is that problem is due to that ther is no MX record for this mail server .[10:24:15] <kk_CHN> is it so?[10:25:38] <dragonheart> can you check if there is a mx? can you check the squirrel mail logs? can you check the postfix logs? can you check the directories to see if mail got delivered?[10:32:39] *** rootsvr has joined #postfix[10:33:03] *** rootsvr has quit IRC[10:37:46] *** Twinkletoes has joined #postfix[10:40:38] <kk_CHN> dragonheart, Ther is no mx record ,File does not exist: /usr/local/www/squirrelmail/favicon.ico no error in /var/log/maillog[10:41:34] *** diveli has quit IRC[10:42:01] *** aozturk has quit IRC[10:49:05] *** L|NUX has quit IRC[10:53:59] *** Zelest has joined #postfix[10:55:06] *** ming_zym has left #postfix[10:59:12] <Edward123> hrm got some strange results, when i run this ldap query to find out what transport to use for madduck.co.uk it returns the right data: ldapsearch -W -x -D cn=Manager,dc=netring,dc=co,dc=uk -b "ou=transports,dc=netring,dc=co,dc=uk" "(mailHost=madduck.co.uk)"[11:00:00] <Edward123> but then when i run postmapq i get no results back, yet when i look in the log it's using those exact same values: postmap -q "madduck.co.uk" ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap-transport.cf[11:02:15] *** _bugz_ has quit IRC[11:02:18] <madduck> stop highlighting me, Edward123! :)[11:03:48] <Edward123> hah, sorry madduck[11:04:01] <Edward123> got your attention though, eh?[11:04:30] *** sep has quit IRC[11:04:31] <madduck> not really. :)[11:04:42] <Edward123> got any thoughts on my ldap/postfix problem?[11:05:08] <madduck> other than "ldap sucks"? :)[11:05:13] <madduck> nah, sorry, i really don't do ldap...[11:05:26] *** _bugz_ has joined #postfix[11:05:35] <madduck> it might help to show /etc/postfix/ldap-transport.cf though[11:06:39] <Edward123> sure, here it is: http://www.pastebin.ca/756247[11:07:56] <madduck> can anonymous read the database? don't you have to tell postfix to bind as cn=Manager,dc=netring,dc=co,dc=uk?[11:08:07] <Edward123> i checked the log ot see what that was outputting, then pasted those values into ldapsearch, and it returns plenty-o-values[11:08:15] <Edward123> yeah, anonymous can read at present[11:08:28] *** sep has joined #postfix[11:08:29] <madduck> so ldapsearch -W -x -b "ou=transports,dc=netring,dc=co,dc=uk" "(mailHost=madduck.co.uk)" works?[11:09:23] <madduck> also lose the -W[11:09:59] *** unixtippse has quit IRC[11:10:06] <Edward123> hrm actually that isn't returning the right results[11:10:16] *** unixtippse has joined #postfix[11:10:40] <madduck> might be a lead. i have to run off now. highlight me all you want. :)[11:10:41] <Edward123> when i was running ldapsearch before i was using the manager dn... i'll try forcing postfix to binddn and see if that fixes it[11:10:46] <Edward123> heh - thanks madduck[11:13:30] <madduck> Edward123: btw, team up with me and send those fuckheads to some black hole or the st. andreas fault: http://www.madduckttc.net/[11:13:46] *** f3ew has quit IRC[11:14:50] *** f3ew has joined #postfix[11:21:36] <jduggan> someone explain to me why aol bother setting the X spam flag on outbound email[11:21:50] <jduggan> if they're marking it as spam - surely they should not even be relaying it[11:22:30] <f3ew> It may be a "doubtful" spam level[11:23:39] <Edward123> heh NRA people, no good[11:23:54] <Edward123> madduck: if you're still around that solved the problem btw[11:33:49] *** mark-use has joined #postfix[11:33:54] <mark-use> hi[11:35:56] *** sycon has left #postfix[11:39:10] <Edward123> status=bounced (host server8.netring.co.uk[/var/lib/imap/socket/lmtp] said: 550-Mailbox unknown. Either there is no mailbox associated with this 550-name or you do not have authorization to see it. 550 5.1.1 User unknown (in reply to RCPT TO command))[11:39:14] <Edward123> cyrus is playing silly buggers[11:40:38] *** rajkosto has quit IRC[11:42:27] *** VagaStorm has joined #postfix[11:46:58] <f3ew> you need to give access to postfix to write to the mailbox[11:49:21] <^Willie^Laptop> lennard: it is not working[11:53:27] *** Lap_64 has quit IRC[11:53:44] *** Lap_64 has joined #postfix[11:54:49] <Edward123> figured it out - the problem was all with cyrus[11:56:53] <Edward123> looks kind of like postfix is trying to authenticate remote users against sasl which of course is failing and prohibiting the receiving of mail from any but external addresses[11:57:01] <Edward123> i must have added a directive somewhere accidently which does this...[11:57:22] <^Willie^Laptop> http://pastebin.ca/756280[11:57:29] <^Willie^Laptop> can someone look at this ?[11:59:51] <Edward123> actually that may not be the case - nothing is hitting ldap when i send an e-mail... hrm[12:00:22] <Edward123> but i'm getting errors like this: Oct 31 10:50:58 server8 postfix/smtpd[11838]: > web31503.mail.mud.yahoo.com[68.142.198.132]: 554 5.7.1 <info at madduck dot co.uk>: Relay access denied .... hrm will google it when i get back from the dentist, ugh[12:06:29] *** theblackbox has joined #postfix[12:08:24] *** cpm has joined #postfix[12:14:16] *** maharaja_ has joined #postfix[12:14:21] <maharaja_> hi there[12:19:55] <maharaja_> i know this is not the way one asks questions, but:[12:20:06] <maharaja_> how can i find out why reject_unauth_destination is not working?[12:20:22] <maharaja_> i allready set debug_peer - output can be found at[12:23:56] <maharaja_> http://p.0wnz.at/155[12:25:24] <maharaja_> and as i am using mysql i allready debugged the mysql queries[12:29:27] *** internat85 has quit IRC[12:29:30] *** internat2 has joined #postfix[12:30:02] *** rokra has joined #postfix[12:30:09] *** flami has joined #postfix[12:31:59] <dragonheart> maharaja_: postconf -n?[12:32:52] *** cpm is now known as slacker[12:33:13] *** slacker is now known as cpm[12:43:17] <maharaja_> 1sec[12:44:01] <^Willie^Laptop> ....[12:44:18] <^Willie^Laptop> dragonheart: did you also look at my pastebin ?[12:44:39] <maharaja_> dragonheart: http://p.0wnz.at/157[12:49:48] <maharaja_> i used to have the mysql setup activiated, but as of now i even disabled it[12:50:10] <maharaja_> and myhostname is set to gamingxp.at now - mynetworks to 127.0.0.1/8[12:52:28] *** mark-use has quit IRC[12:52:46] <maharaja_> postfix version is from etch: 2.3.8[12:53:49] *** nferrier has joined #postfix[12:54:44] <nferrier> I want to delete mail stuck in the deferred queue[12:54:56] <nferrier> I looked at using qtool.pl but it didn't seem to work[12:55:11] <nferrier> is it safe to just find queue -type f -exec rm \{} \:[12:55:12] <nferrier> ?[12:55:20] <maharaja_> im always deleting them by hand :P and this works[12:55:46] <maharaja_> i always delete them from defer and deferred (both dirs)[12:56:12] <nferrier> maharaja_: they seem to be different files in defer[12:56:19] <nferrier> maharaja_: like marker files or something[12:56:19] <dragonheart> postsuper -d ${queueid}[12:56:34] <dragonheart> sorry guys - too tied to look at configs[12:56:36] <dragonheart> gn[12:56:37] <maharaja_> nferrier: for me it worked *shrug* but i guess postsuper is better ones[12:56:42] <maharaja_> :([12:56:47] <maharaja_> thanks anyways dragonheart[12:56:52] <nferrier> dragonheart: cheers[12:56:57] <nferrier> maharaja_: thx[12:56:59] * ^Willie^Laptop wonders if the are all sleeping or just watching[12:57:33] <maharaja_> most of them are not event watching i guess[12:57:37] <maharaja_> but leave irc running in the background[12:57:58] <^Willie^Laptop> same here and then i look 8 hours later and nobody did respond at all ..[12:58:05] <nferrier> postsuper -d deferred doesn't seem to have changed anything[12:58:22] <nferrier> files are still there[12:58:24] <nferrier> interesting[12:58:27] <^Willie^Laptop> my problem is more there is not mutch info about the stuff i need to know[12:58:28] <dragonheart> look at postqueue -p[12:58:33] <Dominian> el_cubano: Windows[12:58:40] <dragonheart> then the queue id is for deletion[12:58:47] <nferrier> dragonheart: tons of messages in the queue[12:58:50] <^Willie^Laptop> some how i can not define a before queue filter and a content filter at the same instance[12:59:44] <^Willie^Laptop> i have no idea how to fix this ..[12:59:49] *** mwalling2 is now known as mwalling[13:02:49] <nferrier> dragonheart: ahhhh!!! thx[13:04:45] <netcrash> ^Willie^Laptop: Before queue filter occurs before the email enters the queue content_filter happens after-queue[13:05:13] <nferrier> hmmm...[13:05:32] <^Willie^Laptop> netcrash: i know that but hwo to config that[13:05:40] <nferrier> apparently that didn't work[13:05:47] <^Willie^Laptop> somehow postfix skips the content_filter[13:05:49] <nferrier> mailq | awk '/^[A-Z]/ { print $1}' | xargs postsuper -d[13:05:56] <nferrier> produces invalid ID[13:06:04] *** kk_CHN has quit IRC[13:09:04] <maharaja_> nferrier: then test with[13:09:23] <maharaja_> mailq | awk '/^[A-Z]/ { print "postsuper -d $1"}' or similary[13:09:39] *** Trengo has quit IRC[13:09:41] <nferrier> maharaja_: I just deleted them[13:09:51] <^Willie^Laptop> netcrash: ?[13:10:01] <nferrier> maharaja_: but I think my sh was ok[13:10:04] *** shasta has quit IRC[13:10:23] <nferrier> maharaja_: maybe could have xargs -l1[13:10:59] <nferrier> thanks all for your help.[13:11:01] <maharaja_> honestly i do not know that much about xargs :)[13:11:05] <maharaja_> np ;)[13:11:12] *** shasta has joined #postfix[13:11:13] *** nferrier has left #postfix[13:12:12] <maharaja_> how can i see the scache entries?[13:12:20] <maharaja_> s/see/view/[13:14:48] <netcrash> ^Willie^Laptop: how have you configured the content_filter ?[13:18:06] *** flami has quit IRC[13:26:41] <maharaja_> netcrash: any idea for my problem?[13:26:48] <maharaja_> by any chance :)[13:35:07] *** theblackbox has quit IRC[13:36:11] <netcrash> ^Willie^Laptop: http://www.postfix.org/FILTER_README.html[13:37:24] <netcrash> ^Willie^Laptop: try to follow an example from there[13:38:27] *** theblackbox has joined #postfix[13:39:02] *** werewolf has joined #postfix[13:43:13] <maharaja_> uff - rebuilding with debug info added[13:45:42] <netcrash> maharaja_: How do you know reject_unauth_destination is not working , do you have any log ?[13:48:13] <maharaja_> i know it because my mailserver is acting as an open relay :)[13:48:18] <maharaja_> moreover, my log is:[13:48:23] <maharaja_> http://p.0wnz.at/155[13:48:40] <maharaja_> generic_checks: name=reject_unauth_destination status=0[13:48:56] <maharaja_> but as of right now i think that its basically not "reject_unauth_destination" not working[13:49:04] <maharaja_> but that permit_auth_destination applies to raoul at bhatia dot at[13:49:09] <maharaja_> but i dont know why[13:50:44] *** cutmasta has quit IRC[13:50:59] *** cutmasta has joined #postfix[13:51:45] *** michauk has joined #postfix[13:53:23] *** michauk has left #postfix[13:56:30] *** werewolf has quit IRC[13:58:45] *** VagaStorm has left #postfix[13:59:32] *** af_ has joined #postfix[13:59:33] *** felix_da_catz has quit IRC[14:01:08] <maharaja_> netcrash: kinda hard to understand, right? :)[14:02:46] *** hparker has joined #postfix[14:05:04] <netcrash> maharaja_: yes , disable debug , and has a host outside your network try to send an email[14:05:56] *** Trengo has joined #postfix[14:06:47] <maharaja_> that was from an outside host[14:08:52] <maharaja_> ill c/p you a recent log[14:08:54] <maharaja_> 1sec[14:09:40] <netcrash> permit_mynetworks permit_sasl_authenticated[14:09:50] <netcrash> this is separated by commas on the config ?[14:11:17] <netcrash> smtpd_sender_restrictions = permit_mynetworks permit_sasl_authenticated , can't you remove this line from the config ? And then test again[14:13:31] <maharaja_> netcrash: i just found out, that if i specify relay_domains = (instead of relay_domains = $mydestination) it seems to work[14:14:21] <netcrash> something is not right[14:15:03] <maharaja_> ok, ill post you the new log[14:15:04] <maharaja_> 1sec[14:16:34] <^Willie^Laptop> netcrash: i did that yesterday ..[14:17:27] <^Willie^Laptop> netcrash: when i put -o content_filter=spamassassin to the first smtp line then it skip this filter ..[14:17:41] *** feld_work has joined #postfix[14:17:51] <^Willie^Laptop> when i remove the 2 lines for clam then it use spamassassin ..[14:18:47] <feld_work> im trying to figure out the masquerading syntax; i cant seem to find an example that helps me out -- how do i masquerade "hostname1.com" -> "hostname2.com"? masquerade_domains = what?[14:18:52] <maharaja_> netcrash: http://p.0wnz.at/158[14:20:17] *** felix_da_catz has joined #postfix[14:20:57] *** magyar has quit IRC[14:24:08] <^Willie^Laptop> netcrash: the filter manual at the postfix website did not help me at all ..[14:24:35] <^Willie^Laptop> and this morning some one told me an sollution that must work for him but here not ..[14:24:41] *** Mr_Alex has joined #postfix[14:25:44] <Edward123> hrm i get "Relay access denied" for incoming mail... where do i start looking at what's causing this? here's my postconf -n: http://www.pastebin.ca/756377[14:26:54] <Edward123> my mail host is mail.madduck.co.uk, the MX record for madduck.co.uk points to this, and mail.madduck.co.uk points to server8.netring.co.uk's IP address. the transport i have added is for madduck.co.uk - should this be for mail.madduck.co.uk instead perhaps? mail is received user at madduck dot co.uk, not user at mail dot madduck.co.uk[14:26:57] *** Gecko has joined #postfix[14:27:08] <Gecko> morning[14:27:24] <Gecko> in main.cf what command would i use to check for a valid reverse dns ptr?[14:29:49] <maharaja_> maybe reject_unknown_client[14:29:58] <madduck> Edward123: you again. the transport matches the envelope recipient, not the MX. so madduck.co.uk.[14:30:15] <Gecko> maybe?[14:30:44] <maharaja_> check http://www.postfix.org/uce.html and[14:30:46] <Gecko> which smptd_ restriciton would that be?[14:30:49] <maharaja_> yes, maybe[14:30:51] <Gecko> helo?[14:30:52] <Edward123> madduck: hrm... why do you reckon postfix is saying 'relaying denied' on incoming messages? that's my postconf: http://www.pastebin.ca/756377[14:31:04] <madduck> Gecko: rtfm dude...[14:31:15] <Gecko> dood... gon'[14:31:18] <Gecko> wow[14:31:28] <Gecko> i can't stand rtfm monkeys[14:31:42] <Gecko> why does this channel exist if every answer is "RTFM"?[14:31:46] <maharaja_> Gecko: i guess they cannot stand ppl who do not bother to read the documentation[14:32:05] <Edward123> ... i did set my relay_domains =, but this is incoming mail - i don't see why it would really need to consult that field?[14:32:07] <maharaja_> not every answer is - but for basic ones it is the best thing to do[14:32:14] <Gecko> "maybe" I glanced and didn't see anything that was related to "reverse dns"[14:32:15] <madduck> Edward123: because you mydestinations does not include madduck.co.uk...[14:32:29] <Gecko> http://www.postfix.org/uce.html[14:32:39] <madduck> and your virtual setup apparently does not report madduck.co.uk[14:32:40] <Gecko> fyi... the word "reverse dns" does not exist on that page[14:32:43] <Gecko> i've already looked[14:32:51] <Gecko> reverse ptr doesn't exist either[14:32:59] <netcrash> maharaja_: aoul at bhatia dot at , this domain is from what machine (yours )?[14:33:02] <madduck> Edward123: postfix receives the mail but does not deem it local.[14:33:05] <Edward123> madduck... ah, so i need to get mydestinations querying ldap too then?[14:33:19] <Gecko> the only word... with REVERSE is relating to reject_rbl_client domain.tld[14:33:19] <Gecko> Reject the request when the reversed client network address is listed with an A record under domain.tld. The maps_rbl_reject_code parameter specifies the response code for rejected requests (default: 554), the default_rbl_reply parameter specifies the default server reply, and the rbl_reply_maps parameter specifies tables with server replies indexed by RBL domain.[14:33:19] <madduck> i bet virtual_mailbox_domains does not return madduck.co.uk[14:33:22] <madduck> Edward123: NO[14:33:32] <Gecko> thus why I came here and asked my question.[14:33:56] <f3ew> !reject_unknown_client_hostname[14:33:57] <knoba> f3ew: Error: "reject_unknown_client_hostname" is not a valid command.[14:33:57] <maharaja_> netcrash: mail.ipax.at (ip40.ipax.at) handles this address. i try to setup a customers mailserver under ip67.ipax.at[14:33:59] <f3ew> !reject_unknown_client[14:34:00] <knoba> f3ew: Error: "reject_unknown_client" is not a valid command.[14:34:01] <Edward123> Gecko, whatever the weather these people are helping you for free - don't take the michael[14:34:03] <f3ew> grrr[14:34:12] <madduck> !reject_unknown_client_hostname[14:34:12] <knoba> madduck: Error: "reject_unknown_client_hostname" is not a valid command.[14:34:16] <f3ew> See those in postconf(5)[14:34:26] <madduck> !reject_unknown_reverse_client_hostname[14:34:26] <knoba> madduck: Error: "reject_unknown_reverse_client_hostname" is not a valid command.[14:34:29] <Gecko> don't ASSume that I've not RTFM'd[14:34:29] <madduck> doh.[14:34:34] <Gecko> jeez[14:34:39] <madduck> Gecko: go blow a horse[14:34:41] <Gecko> thats a bad assumption[14:34:42] <Edward123> heh madduck stop trying to hax0r the gibson plz[14:34:45] <Gecko> suck a cock bitch[14:34:57] <maharaja_> netcrash: in the future, it shall only be responsible for gamingxp.com, gamingxp.at and generals.at[14:35:01] <Gecko> stop assuming when someone asks a question[14:35:05] <f3ew> http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#reject_unknown_client_hostname[14:35:14] <madduck> /ignore Gecko[14:35:20] <maharaja_> thx f3ew[14:35:22] <Gecko> it was a pretty simple question[14:35:23] <Gecko> <Gecko> in main.cf what command would i use to check for a valid reverse dns ptr?[14:35:27] <sep> Gecko, it's under Client hostname/address restrictions on the page you posted, and you can't read the docs using ctrl+f and expect to find anythnig good[14:35:29] <Gecko> don't go all RTFM'ing on me[14:35:32] <maharaja_> Gecko: and i told you[14:35:39] <f3ew> Gecko, I told you[14:35:44] <maharaja_> and i think f3ew is telling you too[14:35:52] <Trengo> Gecko you didnt read[14:35:56] <Gecko> sep, there is only one word on that page with "reverse" in it.[14:35:58] <Trengo> that much i know[14:36:03] <f3ew> smtpd_recipient_restrictions = reject_unknown_client_hostname, reject[14:36:12] <f3ew> Gecko s/reverse/unknown/[14:36:15] <f3ew> HINT[14:36:19] <Trengo> because its all quite plain in that page you say you read[14:36:28] <netcrash> maharaja_: your configuration seems to have much more to tell then what your showing , if relay_domains has pibhatia.at then it will accept , otherwise I can't figure out the problem[14:36:37] <Gecko> Again... why does this channel exist if every answer is rtfm?[14:36:37] <f3ew> reject_unknown_client_hostname (with Postfix < 2.3: reject_unknown_client)[14:36:37] <f3ew> Reject the request when 1) the client IP address->name mapping fails, 2) the name->address mapping fails, or 3) the name->address mapping does not match the client IP address.[14:36:37] <f3ew> This is a stronger restriction than the reject_unknown_reverse_client_hostname feature, which triggers only under condition 1) above.[14:36:37] <f3ew> The unknown_client_reject_code parameter specifies the response code for rejected requests (default: 450). The reply is always 450 in case the address->name or name->address lookup failed due to a temporary problem[14:36:42] <maharaja_> netcrash: it hasnt got[14:36:49] <sep> Gecko, damn your annoying, read the part about Client hostname/address restrictions on the page you claim to have read[14:36:54] <maharaja_> netcrash: may i talk to you in private query as this chan is now quite flooded[14:37:04] <netcrash> maharaja_: yes[14:37:05] <f3ew> Gecko, read _THAT_[14:37:22] <sep> Gecko, to answer _REAL_ questions that are not part of the very basics, and to chat about mailservers :)[14:37:28] <Gecko> _that_ is not found on THAT page :P[14:37:48] <f3ew> I copied and pasted[14:37:55] <sysmonk> sep: and to chat about tits, beer, weed and else.... :)[14:37:57] <Trengo> oh yes it is[14:38:11] <Gecko> now... i can chat about beer[14:38:24] <Gecko> ever been to ratebeer.com?[14:38:37] <sysmonk> spam![14:38:37] <sysmonk> ;)[14:38:42] <Gecko> no :P[14:39:01] <Gecko> good stuff... a buddy of mine whent in a store this weekend and called me about some different beers. It was a handy site to tell him if something was good or not.[14:39:07] <mikefoo> Anyone know specifically what is giving the error of "error writing message: File too large" when I try to send an email to a mailbox, im not sure what option in main.cf is controlling it.[14:39:53] <hparker> mikefoo: postconf | grep size[14:39:58] <sysmonk> mikefoo: message_size_limit / mailbox_size_limit[14:39:58] <Edward123> madduck, you were right - postconf -q showed i've made a typo in my ldap cf file[14:40:05] <Gecko> postconf -d mailbox_size_limit[14:40:05] <Gecko> Set it to zero to remove the limit altogether (still subject to[14:40:05] <Gecko> filesystem limitations, of course).[14:40:22] <Gecko> i googled that :) someone please congrat me[14:40:32] <mikefoo> no filesystem users, its all mysql virtual accounts[14:40:42] <mikefoo> I have mailbox_size_limit as 0[14:41:14] <sysmonk> mikefoo: it's also in postconf -d | grep size...[14:41:22] <sysmonk> ah, sorry, it's not :)[14:41:27] <sysmonk> virtual_mailbox_limit[14:41:44] <Trengo> mikefoo is that maildir or mbox?[14:41:47] *** ploploop has joined #postfix[14:41:49] *** ming_zym has joined #postfix[14:41:55] <mikefoo> mbox[14:42:14] <mikefoo> virtual_mailbox_limit = 51200000 - is what I have set..[14:42:38] <Gecko> what about just regular mailbox_size_limit? and not virtual[14:42:56] <mikefoo> its 0[14:43:34] <sysmonk> mikefoo: did you check if the recipients mailbox isn't over limit?[14:44:07] <sep> mikefoo, checked message_size_limit ?[14:44:21] <mikefoo> message_size_limit is 0[14:44:30] <mikefoo> maybe it was.. virtual_mailbox_limit = 51200000 ?[14:44:35] <Gecko> jeez[14:44:41] <mikefoo> maybe I got to limit, and then, that was problem..[14:44:57] <Gecko> http://readlist.com/lists/postfix.org/postfix-users/12/62729.html <<-- they suggest message_size_limit=0 too[14:45:17] <Gecko> Use "postconf mailbox_size_limit" to verify main.cf does it come back with 0?[14:46:13] <mikefoo> whats the -d for? whats live? and without is whats in main.cf?[14:46:27] <Gecko> end of that thread appears to change limits for /var/spool/xxxxxxx[14:46:29] <Gecko> http://readlist.com/lists/postfix.org/postfix-users/12/62754.html[14:46:44] <Gecko> might want to check that out[14:47:24] <mikefoo> I dont have system quotas set...[14:48:04] *** _bugz_ has quit IRC[14:48:28] *** gb__ has joined #postfix[14:48:35] <gb__> hello[14:48:41] <gb__> anyone heard of postmap?[14:48:55] <e_> what? no[14:48:57] <e_> what?[14:49:15] <gb__> ok[14:49:21] <gb__> i'm trying to setup mail server[14:49:53] *** mark-use has joined #postfix[14:50:05] <gb__> and i read i needed postmap to setup name/pass[14:50:50] <Edward123> it's working a treat now, madduck - thanks[14:50:54] <gb__> i did look in synaptic but i could not find any postmap tool[14:51:07] <sep> gb__, postmap is part of postfix, try man postmap[14:51:40] <gb__> sep: itried that too[14:51:45] <gb__> did not come up with anything[14:51:47] *** brancaleone has quit IRC[14:51:50] <sep> gb__, have you installed postfix ?[14:52:17] <gb__> yes i dii install all which i could find for postifx[14:52:46] <gb__> sorry bout the spellings , bit tired :([14:53:13] <sep> gb__, if you installed the right postfix package you should have postmap as a command, and you should probably have a man page for postmap too,[14:53:46] <gb__> sep i though so too , but it does not seem to have it[14:53:48] <sep> gb__, (hint) stating what disto you use and how you installed postfix might help (hint)[14:53:53] <gb__> i'm on ubuntu system right now[14:55:14] <gb__> sep: like i said , i used synaptic to install postfix[14:55:45] <sep> gb__, verify it was installed properly.[14:56:03] <gb__> tried that too[14:56:10] <sep> ubuntu is based on debian and it certainly have postmap and man page for postmap in the postfix package[14:56:34] <gb__> man postmap[14:56:35] <gb__> No manual entry for postmap[14:56:38] <sep> dpkg -la | grep postfix.[14:56:39] <gb__> this is what i get[14:56:53] <gb__> sep i used apt-get[14:57:07] <sep> gb__, that's not what i asked about[14:57:21] <hparker> May not be in your path, try "locate postmap"[14:57:31] <gb__> hparker: let me try that[14:58:07] <sep> it's in postfix: /usr/sbin/postmap, if the packages is not compleatly rapes over[14:58:15] <gb__> hparker: ok it point me to a manual pages folder saying there is postmap1.html file[14:58:24] * cpm tries /usr/sbin/hparker to no avail[14:58:39] <sep> the man page is in postfix: /usr/share/man/man1/postmap.1.gz[14:58:48] <sep> again: i would use dpkg -la | grep postfix. to verify it was installed properly[14:59:02] <hparker> gb__: No clue then, i've never used debian so no idea how it's package management works[14:59:04] <gb__> sep ok 1 sec[14:59:06] <sep> gb__, then you can try dpkg -L postix to check the location of the files[14:59:07] <gb__> let me try that[14:59:13] <hparker> Morning cpm[14:59:20] <cpm> morn'n hparker[14:59:46] <gb__> ok it came with postfix tool that r installed[14:59:52] <gb__> with version numbers[15:00:49] <gb__> hi cpm[15:00:52] <gb__> anyone here on ubuntu?[15:01:04] <sep> <-debian[15:01:30] <gb__> then sep it should work , ubuntu is child of debian :([15:01:49] <sep> gb__, so either they messed with the postfix package, or you have it installed wrong.[15:01:57] <gb__> i dont even have a postmap folder in /etc[15:02:06] <gb__> but i do have /etc/postfix[15:02:13] <sep> there should be no postmap[15:02:27] <sep> dpkg -L postfix | grep postmap[15:02:27] <sep> /usr/sbin/postmap[15:02:27] <sep> /usr/share/man/man1/postmap.1.gz[15:02:27] <sep>[15:02:44] <sep> the first is the command, the second the manpage[15:02:55] <gb__> nothing here :([15:03:05] <sep> gb__, then install the postfix package[15:03:12] <gb__> let me try ubuntu site, may be they have postmap in there archive[15:03:30] <sep> or replace ubuntu with something not designed to be a eyecandy desktop computer :)[15:03:54] <hparker> heh[15:04:12] <sep> gb__, I seam to have a hard time reachingy you. there is no postmap package. it's a single command, with a single manpage in the postfix package.[15:04:47] <sep> if you showed us the output of dpkg -la | grep postfix we might be able to tell you how you messed up. but current'y we'r just guessing.[15:04:49] <gb__> i understand that sep[15:05:00] <gb__> ok will do 1 sec plz[15:05:45] <gb__> should i post it ehre?[15:05:49] <gb__> here*[15:06:02] <gb__> or pastebin[15:07:02] *** poisdeux has joined #postfix[15:07:28] <gb__> http://pastebin.com/m25836e00[15:07:47] <sep> rc postfix = postfix is not installed[15:09:02] <gb__> so my install is messed up?[15:09:05] <sep> gb__, now just imagine if you'd done that immidiatly so we'd not have to do all this cahtting[15:09:08] <gb__> oh men :([15:09:12] <sep> aptitude install postfix[15:09:19] <gb__> doing it now[15:10:11] <gb__> i think in trying to fix it , i messed it up[15:10:23] <gb__> sep: thanks anyways , u rock dood !![15:10:28] * rob0 hates it when that happens[15:11:16] <gb__> rob i'm thinking of making a desktop wallpaper for me saying " if it aint broke, dont fix it"[15:11:23] <gb__> lol[15:12:36] <poisdeux> Hiya, I'm currently trying to setup postfix with LDAP and I am looking for some pointers on what schema's to use for a good general setup.[15:13:01] <gb__> sep: appreciate your time and patience , thanks again[15:13:58] *** mwalling has quit IRC[15:14:10] <Edward123> hey guys it's all working[15:14:20] <Edward123> for all those that helped me, rob0, sysmonk, madduck et al[15:14:24] <Edward123> many thanks for your help[15:14:52] <gb__> bye all[15:14:56] <gb__> take care and god bless[15:15:06] *** gb__ has left #postfix[15:15:14] <Edward123> ldap + postfix + cyrus + sasl + mailscanner + spamassassin + clamav, now i just need to import the ldap user database (easy) and create mailboxes for all the users (hopefuly easy), then when i've got 1 fully working server i can crack on with the replication[15:15:33] <el_cubano> Dominian: heh[15:17:43] <Edward123> hrm damn, actually it's not working as hoped[15:18:13] <Edward123> i was sure i got mail aliases working for multiple aliases on testing and yet it isn't working on production... sigh[15:23:32] *** bart_ has joined #postfix[15:23:40] <bart_> hi[15:26:21] <bart_> guys.. i have body_checks in postfix and i want to do something new ;) emails with word "test" in body, should be delivered to original recipeint and another backup mail account[15:26:25] <bart_> is this possible?[15:26:30] <bart_> sorry for bad english[15:28:24] *** xored has joined #postfix[15:29:29] <xored> hello guys, i just checked, that my postfix sends emails without need of an auth, what is like the ultimate selfkilling bomb. Could you give me a fast fix, how to activate "auth only" ?[15:33:11] <poisdeux> xored: smtpd_recipient_restrictions = reject_unauth_destination[15:33:43] <poisdeux> sorry, smtpd_recipient_restrictions = reject_unauth_destination permit_mynetworks permit_sasl_authenticated[15:34:08] <poisdeux> so reject all unauthenticated and permit only authenticated connections[15:34:30] *** havvg has joined #postfix[15:34:38] <xored> ok[15:34:42] <xored> thank you[15:34:44] <shasta> erm[15:34:52] <shasta> i'd reverse them[15:35:10] <shasta> permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated, reject_unauth_destination[15:35:39] <xored> strange[15:35:39] <shasta> doing it poisdeux's way would break sending "outbound" emails completely[15:35:45] <xored> smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_sasl_authenticated,permit_mynetworks,reject_unauth_destination[15:35:46] <shasta> xored, pastebin your postconf -n[15:35:51] <xored> i got this line in my config[15:36:08] <xored> but i can send with telnet without any auth[15:36:14] <shasta> you probably have too wide $mynetworks[15:36:23] <shasta> well, where do you send? :)[15:36:28] <shasta> and where do you telnet from?[15:36:53] <xored> you can understand[15:36:59] <xored> that i cant tell you both right now[15:37:09] <xored> iam sending from my laptop at home[15:37:20] <xored> to the dedicated server[15:37:45] <shasta> then we can't help you right now ;)[15:38:08] <xored> i just wont tell you IP`s / Domains[15:38:19] <xored> i can tell you anything else or just change them[15:38:41] <shasta> why the obfuscating? :)[15:39:06] <shasta> anyway[15:39:09] <xored> its an open relay ?[15:39:14] <shasta> so?[15:39:17] <xored> "lets spam"[15:39:34] <shasta> right, tons of spammers on #postfix ;)[15:39:52] <xored> shasta: why should i traust 181 ppl i dont know ?[15:40:05] <xored> do you know them all ? :)[15:40:10] <xored> do you know iam not a spammer ?=[15:40:20] <xored> i mean this is not an offense[15:40:31] <xored> i hope you can understand my point of view[15:40:36] <shasta> anyway, if you really have smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_sasl_authenticated,permit_mynetworks,reject_unauth_destination and can send emails without auth then either:[15:40:48] <shasta> a) you're authenticated and you don't know (unlikely)[15:41:08] *** bart_ has quit IRC[15:41:09] <shasta> b) you're doing it from IP listed in $mynetworks (likely)[15:41:21] <xored> shasta: where is that network defined ?[15:41:59] <shasta> c) you're sending mail to a domain that your host is final destination or it's permitted to relay to[15:42:07] <shasta> in main.cf, of course[15:42:52] <xored> shasta: hmm, yeah i mean c could be right[15:43:18] <shasta> and no, I don't know all people here, but I'm guessing that showing unobfuscated config would help us/you fix the problem quicker[15:43:21] <xored> now i get it, i write the mails from myname@ to info@ at the domain, the server is relay for[15:43:26] <shasta> bah[15:43:34] <xored> so the server accpets this email in anyway because he has to ?[15:43:57] <shasta> of course, if it'd be otherwise -- how others could send mails to you?[15:44:25] <xored> yeah right. Sorry iam a bit new to the MTA thing[15:44:32] <xored> iam sorry for wasting your time[15:44:32] <shasta> try to send something to "outside"[15:44:36] <shasta> like, info at microsoft dot com ;)[15:44:37] <xored> tried, its permitted[15:45:23] <shasta> sheesh[15:45:35] <shasta> see, that's the point where configs are handy[15:49:17] *** rokra has quit IRC[15:52:10] *** unixipher has joined #postfix[15:55:10] *** feld_work has left #postfix[15:56:23] *** poisdeux is now known as tarik[15:56:45] *** pickcoder has joined #postfix[15:59:52] *** tarik is now known as poisdeux[15:59:55] *** tenfjord has joined #postfix[16:08:20] <ladytootoo> hi everyone![16:08:56] <tenfjord> Hi all. I'm having some issues on my postfix(mysql) server. On one of my domains I get domain not found in the log. Even thou the queryes local to the mysql server works. Strange thing is that this only happens to one of many domains, and it happend at midnight .. I really can't think of anything it could be, has someone seen similar errors before?[16:09:33] <rob0> !postmapq[16:09:34] <knoba> rob0: "postmapq" : You can check your lookups with the postmap command. Example: if you defined "transport_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/transport.cf" you may check this mapping by running "postmap -q domain.com mysql:/etc/postfix/transport.cf" and see if it works.[16:09:37] <ladytootoo> i'm noticing that if i send an email to an alias and that alias only has one recipient, then it picks up that users's individual sql prefs for spamassassin...but if the alias has more than one recipient, then it doesn't...it picks up the @GLOBAL sql prefs[16:09:42] <rob0> tenfjord: ^^ to debug your maps[16:09:47] <ladytootoo> something with the alias expansion?[16:09:52] *** Mr_Alex has quit IRC[16:10:35] *** Lap_64 has quit IRC[16:11:01] *** Lap_64 has joined #postfix[16:14:01] <el_cubano> rob0: I never managed to get the LDAP thing to work. I got it to where the query would be made and answered (debug logging on slapd showed this), but Postfix kept bouncing with a "user unknown" error. It did not matter whether I tried roberto.sanchez by itself, with a trailing colon or with the @domain attached. I also tried the ldap: spec in local_recipient_maps, alias_maps and also virtual_alias_maps and none worked. Any ideas?[16:14:28] <tenfjord> rob0: All my policies are unchanged, and the setup for this specific domain does not differ from the rest. Is there some way to run the postfix mysql query method through command line?[16:15:29] <rob0> tenfjord: I already answered that![16:17:03] <rob0> el_cubano could try verbose logging, it will show the exact lookups being done and the replies received.[16:17:15] <rob0> !debug[16:17:16] <knoba> rob0: "debug" : http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html : a good starting point for how to deal with problems and to report information to those who might help. Post your information in a pastebin such as http://pastebin.ca/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ .[16:17:47] <tenfjord> rob0:sorry, didnt see that post.. thanks[16:21:00] <el_cubano> rob0: You mean verbose logging on the postfix side? Because I already did it on the slapd side and saw the queries/answers.[16:25:48] *** TestMaster has joined #postfix[16:26:01] <TestMaster> can anyone recommend any tutorials on settting up sendmail[16:26:03] <TestMaster> eek postfix i mean[16:26:04] *** yann|away is now known as yannf[16:26:19] <rob0> !basic[16:26:19] <knoba> rob0: "basic" : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.[16:26:19] <TestMaster> with mysql for domains and user accounts[16:26:27] <rob0> ah, see /topic[16:26:30] <hparker> !rob0[16:26:30] <knoba> hparker: "rob0" : a bot that reacts to newly joined users with reciting the !basic factoid :)[16:27:36] *** Lap_64 has quit IRC[16:28:48] *** DHX- has quit IRC[16:33:12] *** ploploop is now known as brancaleone[16:36:05] <pickcoder> !hparker[16:36:05] <knoba> pickcoder: Error: "hparker" is not a valid command.[16:36:13] *** ming_zym has left #postfix[16:36:22] * hparker is an invalid[16:37:29] <pickcoder> I think that web marketing gurus should be expected to understand how browsers and web servers operate[16:37:58] *** tenfjord has quit IRC[16:39:23] <hparker> yes... Or contract those of us with a clue that are starving[16:39:29] * pickcoder mounts /dev/crystal_ball to help troubleshoot tracking code problems that he has no control over..[16:39:37] <hparker> (Not that I couldn't stand to lose a few pounds)[16:41:19] *** solar_ant has joined #postfix[16:42:39] <pickcoder> wow.. I've just won the UK Lottery online.. All I have to do is provide every possible aspect of my personal information.[16:43:04] *** sepski has joined #postfix[16:43:31] <pickcoder> it's also nice to see that the UK can read/write Kanji[16:43:50] * pickcoder wonders how in the heck that e-mail got through two filtering systems[16:45:17] *** adam33 has joined #postfix[16:48:23] *** Gecko has quit IRC[16:54:54] *** gb__ has joined #postfix[16:55:12] <gb__> sep are you around?[16:56:48] *** gb__ has left #postfix[16:57:33] *** mark-use has quit IRC[17:01:30] *** etaylor has joined #postfix[17:02:35] *** tinus has quit IRC[17:03:26] *** ^Willie^Laptop has quit IRC[17:03:49] *** jellis has joined #postfix[17:03:56] *** j_s has joined #postfix[17:03:57] <jellis> good morning all[17:22:37] *** feld_work has joined #postfix[17:23:03] <feld_work> i think i know what the solution is to this mess but i dont know how to implement it. the documentation is a little shoddy in my opinion[17:23:08] *** cutmasta has quit IRC[17:23:13] *** hstern_ has joined #postfix[17:23:46] <feld_work> could i use the header_check to point to a map file which will use regexp or pcre and replace all instances of "website1.com" with "website2.com" before it gets sent out to the world?[17:24:02] <hstern_> is there an option that will disable the addition of a Received header? I'd like for Postfix not to add one after my filter re-injects the mail into PF[17:26:44] *** adam33 has left #postfix[17:36:10] *** phnord has quit IRC[17:38:29] *** Flimzy has joined #postfix[17:45:39] <Flimzy> My company currently uses qmail for our spam filter, which we are eagerly trying to get away from. We are debating whether to use postfix alone, or qpsmtpd+postfix. Does anyone here have enough perspective on both of these options to offer advice regarding the performance and flexibility of both options?[17:48:00] *** tinus has joined #postfix[17:49:54] <bsdnewb07> dump postfix use sendmail[17:54:24] <sysmonk> dump bsdnewb07, use legs, knifes, and anything else, to do that...[17:55:29] *** harobed has quit IRC[17:57:35] * cpm dumps sysmonk[17:57:40] <cpm> Oh, rats.[17:58:10] *** x-spec-ting is now known as Spec[18:06:07] *** poisdeux has quit IRC[18:09:12] *** die_z has quit IRC[18:12:38] *** solar_ant has quit IRC[18:16:30] *** githogori has quit IRC[18:19:48] *** Gecko has joined #postfix[18:24:05] *** rokra has joined #postfix[18:29:36] <TestMaster> hello all can anyone tell me how to fix this error please fatal: unsupported dictionary type: mysql[18:29:50] *** yannf is now known as yann|away[18:30:52] *** Twinkletoes has quit IRC[18:31:44] <hparker> TestMaster: I'd say you need to recompile postfix with mysql support[18:33:08] <TestMaster> i used a rpm hrm[18:33:27] *** higuita has joined #postfix[18:35:02] <hparker> There might be another package needed then... i've not dealt with rpms in years, and when I did I had a bad habit of compiling .src.rpms so I got what i expected[18:35:03] <cpm> rebuild the rpm with mysql support[18:35:12] <sepski> TestMaster, or if you happen to be on debian install the postfix-mysql package[18:35:19] <cpm> TestMaster, what distro?[18:35:21] <sepski> oh rpm sorry.[18:35:22] <hparker> roms on debien?[18:35:34] <sepski> didn't see he mentioned rpm further down[18:35:38] * cpm roms on hparker[18:35:43] <jelly> hi, can I fake the ip for a remote MX server with an /etc/hosts entry?[18:35:53] <Dominian> yes[18:36:24] <TestMaster> cpm centos[18:36:50] <cpm> I have postfix installs on centos, I built them from source to get them to work[18:37:23] <TestMaster> cpm so you couldnt find a postfix-mysql package?[18:37:35] <cpm> didn't bother looking.[18:37:42] <cpm> centos rpms were too old anyway.[18:37:55] <TestMaster> oh[18:38:07] <cpm> Centos is usually way behind the times[18:38:24] <cpm> it's good stuff, but tends to be old[18:44:07] *** tinus has quit IRC[18:47:30] *** hstern_ has left #postfix[18:48:12] *** adaptr has quit IRC[18:48:52] *** not_a_k has quit IRC[18:50:36] <feld_work> just because it's a hard tested and stable platform doesn't mean it's "behind the times", cpm[18:51:36] <feld_work> the latest and greatest is usually the most prone to bugs and security holes... it would be pretty dumb for them to be running bleeding edge kernels and software that practically had to be checked out of the source control repo[18:52:01] <feld_work> you give them a stable, non moving target and you're more likely to get commercial support too[18:52:50] <feld_work> that's the biggest issue with Linux for commercial developers -- it's too much work to keep up with all the changes. at least FBSD doesn't screw with their APIs every 6 months.... but then again, nobody really releases commercial software for FBSD, so I digress....[18:55:32] *** tinus has joined #postfix[18:55:49] *** adaptr has joined #postfix[19:00:45] *** duki has quit IRC[19:01:20] *** adaptr has quit IRC[19:02:00] *** x-ip has joined #postfix[19:02:01] *** Jax has joined #postfix[19:02:30] *** duki has joined #postfix[19:03:41] *** adaptr has joined #postfix[19:07:11] <TestMaster> cpm you used the tar file?[19:08:00] *** adaptr has quit IRC[19:08:53] <cpm> TestMaster, yup[19:09:44] <TestMaster> i dont see any references on making it with mysql support[19:14:14] <cpm> TestMaster, here's the build I used for centos: http://pastebin.ca/756710[19:15:59] <TestMaster> thanks loads cpm[19:16:50] * rob0 loads cpm[19:18:37] <cpm> dang![19:18:51] <rob0> you're loaded![19:19:06] * cpm staggers around[19:19:22] <rob0> Loaded can also mean wealthy.[19:19:24] <cpm> TestMaster, doubtful that build will work for you, but it's a fair example[19:19:35] <cpm> rob0, not in this life.[19:19:37] <cpm> :)[19:20:26] <TestMaster> cpm actually it has[19:23:24] <cpm> TestMaster, I'd be quite suprised if those paths (esp the /usr/local/ ) worked in a default centos box, as all those things, sasl, mysql, bdb, ssl, etc, were also source builds.[19:29:34] *** bkw has joined #postfix[19:30:09] * pickcoder removes the firing pin from the loaded cpm[19:31:24] <rob0> uh oh[19:33:42] <hacim> can I specify more than one relayhost? I've got one that is overloaded and I want to add horsepower on another system to balance the load[19:33:43] <hparker> *BEWM*[19:34:46] *** rokra has quit IRC[19:35:05] <pickcoder> hacim: can you not perform some domain-based transports to split the load?[19:35:34] <hacim> pickcoder: you mean such as sending all hotmail/yahoo/gmail to another MX server?[19:36:11] <pickcoder> yeah[19:36:29] <LoRez> just name a second machine the same thing?[19:36:46] <rob0> You can use a multi-A record, or an MX with 2 or more of equal priority.[19:37:04] *** amrit|zzz is now known as amrit|wrk[19:37:27] <rob0> But what's really odd, is the idea of using relayhost with such high volume.[19:38:16] *** rokra has joined #postfix[19:40:21] *** jelly has quit IRC[19:41:27] *** jelly has joined #postfix[19:43:03] <TestMaster> cpm well there was three changes i made after and had to redo it. the weird thing is i can not figure out why sasl is failing[19:43:04] <pickcoder> mm.. salt & vinegar chips for lunch. such a healthy meal with Mt Dew[19:43:52] <hacim> rob0: howcome? I've got a list server that I dont want being the server that sends out the email, so it relays outgoing to one of my outgoing/incoming MX servers[19:44:54] <hacim> is that better handled in a different way than using relayhost?[19:45:46] *** jelly has quit IRC[19:45:50] <LoRez> I'd rather have my list server handling its own mail so it didn't thrash my main MXs[19:46:13] <rob0> No, that's fine, I just thought of an ISP's relayhost. The dual A record or dual MX idea will fix you up.[19:46:56] *** odp has joined #postfix[19:47:05] <hacim> LoRez: the list server is already thrashed with handling the lists, so it is passing on mail delivery to another machine to thrash that stuff[19:47:19] <hacim> rob0: great, thats what I'll do[19:50:13] *** odp has left #postfix[19:51:50] *** jelly has joined #postfix[19:52:11] *** schorpp has quit IRC[19:52:12] *** jelly has quit IRC[19:52:36] *** jelly has joined #postfix[19:55:50] <pickcoder> rob0: hrm.. how does the A/MX affect outgoing mail that's already in the queue?[19:56:03] <pickcoder> [if it's not destined for a local domain][19:57:32] <rob0> It's for the relayhost's name. "relayhost = dual.mx.record" or "relayhost = [dual.a.record]"[19:57:33] <pickcoder> I thought if the domain isn't local it's relayed/transported based on the transports else it's delivered via smtpd to the remote MX[19:57:39] *** havvg has quit IRC[19:57:56] <pickcoder> oh.. so you're not eliminating the relayhost[19:58:30] <rob0> right[20:02:29] *** meandtheshell has joined #postfix[20:06:57] *** jelly has quit IRC[20:07:25] *** jelly has joined #postfix[20:11:44] *** sepski has quit IRC[20:12:24] *** madclicker has quit IRC[20:13:26] *** jelly has quit IRC[20:15:01] *** jelly has joined #postfix[20:16:24] *** sheskar has joined #postfix[20:17:36] *** jelly has quit IRC[20:18:21] *** jelly has joined #postfix[20:21:30] *** x-ip has quit IRC[20:22:09] *** Raenius has quit IRC[20:23:43] *** af_ has quit IRC[20:23:58] *** af_ has joined #postfix[20:24:25] *** x_ has joined #postfix[20:24:41] *** netcrash has quit IRC[20:24:44] <cpm> pickcoder, nice lunch![20:25:10] *** x_ is now known as x-ip[20:26:06] *** jelly has quit IRC[20:26:11] * hparker knew he forgot something... lunch[20:27:49] *** Zoates|zzz has joined #postfix[20:27:52] *** Zoates|zzz is now known as oates[20:27:59] *** jelly has joined #postfix[20:28:31] <TestMaster> question what file handles the relay`s?[20:28:41] <TestMaster> i keep getting relay denied when i am trying to send email out[20:29:10] *** hemry_ has joined #postfix[20:31:09] *** sheskar has quit IRC[20:31:09] *** vr has quit IRC[20:33:52] *** jelly has quit IRC[20:34:20] *** sheskar has joined #postfix[20:35:44] *** speedy_ has joined #postfix[20:38:26] *** vr has joined #postfix[20:39:36] *** githogori has joined #postfix[20:40:46] *** madclicker has joined #postfix[20:44:01] *** jelly has joined #postfix[20:44:29] *** cpm has quit IRC[20:44:35] *** jelly has quit IRC[20:44:50] *** oates|zzZz has quit IRC[20:45:17] *** jelly has joined #postfix[20:47:34] <speedy_> where can i find good rbl lists?[20:50:25] *** Foundation has joined #postfix[20:50:47] <pickcoder> spamhaus[20:50:58] *** siphorus has joined #postfix[20:51:07] <pickcoder> njabl[20:51:17] <siphorus> Hello everone[20:51:37] <Foundation> Howdy.[20:51:55] *** TestMaster has quit IRC[20:52:06] <siphorus> is there a way to prevent users to send a message to more than 10 users for exp ?[20:52:14] <siphorus> hey fondation[20:52:33] *** Foundation has left #postfix[20:53:48] <siphorus> a kind of max_Recipient tag[20:55:28] * hparker thinks it would require a policy server, but could be wrong[20:55:56] <pickcoder> smtpd_recipient_limit[20:56:04] <pickcoder> default is 1000[20:56:37] <siphorus> thnx pickcoder[21:01:05] *** Jax has quit IRC[21:07:20] *** feld_work has left #postfix[21:16:29] *** ladytootoo has quit IRC[21:22:48] *** githogori has quit IRC[21:25:29] *** siphorus has left #postfix[21:26:45] *** bsdnewb07 has quit IRC[21:27:32] *** af_ has quit IRC[21:27:45] *** jra has joined #postfix[21:27:46] *** af_ has joined #postfix[21:29:20] *** Garra has joined #postfix[21:29:28] <Garra> hey, what's the retr=xxxx in mail.log?[21:29:40] *** bronb has joined #postfix[21:32:25] *** hparker has quit IRC[21:36:22] <bronb> hello, i'm pretty much a beginner,.. 1. i want to set accounts without the need of actual user, and 2. i want to use other domains i have on my machine... can you direct me what guides i should read about for achieving those 2 tasks ? (they got any technical name?)[21:37:32] *** Garra has quit IRC[21:40:30] *** hparker has joined #postfix[21:41:29] *** jellis has quit IRC[21:41:47] *** Motoko-chan has joined #postfix[21:47:52] *** n3kl has joined #postfix[21:48:25] <n3kl> Hi. My mail server went down for a while and now that its back up, there are a crap ton of messages awaiting on the queue to be sent to the server. How can I force these messages through?[21:48:42] *** githogori has joined #postfix[21:52:00] *** pirho has joined #postfix[21:52:34] *** Sitting_Bull has joined #postfix[21:53:02] <Sitting_Bull> hi guys[21:53:11] <Sitting_Bull> having a bit of a prob[21:53:45] <jra> n3kl: postsuper -r ALL[21:54:01] <Sitting_Bull> don't think i added mynetwork correctly and getting rejections from all the IP's trying to connect to my smtp server[21:54:12] *** renkho has joined #postfix[21:54:13] <Sitting_Bull> this is the error i recieve[21:54:29] <Sitting_Bull> Oct 31 22:49:57 server postfix/smtpd[4622]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from unknown[194.211.90.1]: 550 5.1.1 <andre at 2blink dot co.za>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown; from=<maureen at 2blink dot co.za> to=<andre at 2blink dot co.za> proto=SMTP helo=<maureen>[21:54:29] <Sitting_Bull> Oct 31 22:49:57 server postfix/smtpd[4622]: disconnect from unknown[194.211.90.1][21:54:56] <rob0> !unknown_local[21:54:56] <knoba> rob0: "unknown_local" : User unknown in local recipient table means that the recipient domain was found in $mydestination but the username was not found in local_recipient_maps (by default: users in /etc/passwd and aliases(5) in /etc/aliases).[21:55:34] <Sitting_Bull> aaaa, k cool[21:55:42] <Sitting_Bull> thanks knoba[21:56:24] <n3kl> jra: thanks![21:56:49] <Sitting_Bull> so ig i have a domain added in a mysql database and the user is not added there it will through that error?[21:57:00] <Sitting_Bull> am i rigt in saying that?[21:57:05] <Sitting_Bull> *if[21:58:01] <Sitting_Bull> or not the mysql database but the maildir for the user is not on the system[21:58:33] <renkho> hello... does anybody have an idea how the .. hell.. migrate a postfix installation with mysql to LDAP[21:58:40] *** xDie has quit IRC[21:58:41] <renkho> without die trying'[21:58:41] <renkho> ?[22:01:07] *** CRC-error has joined #postfix[22:02:18] *** CRC-error has quit IRC[22:02:30] *** speedy_ has quit IRC[22:04:34] *** Sitting_Bull has quit IRC[22:08:18] *** etaylor has quit IRC[22:09:42] *** bsdnewb07 has joined #postfix[22:13:37] <mikefoo> So I have a fairly large mailq thats mainly connections refused/timeouts - Whats should be done so the queue doesn't get out of control?[22:15:26] *** aboyz has joined #postfix[22:15:27] <aboyz> anyone know how to tell if a email address is valid? I'm getting a 550 5.1.1 Recipient address rejected: User unknown in relay recipient table. Is this on my side on on the recipient side? anyone know thanks..[22:21:51] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[22:22:21] *** af_ has quit IRC[22:26:12] *** x-ip has quit IRC[22:28:08] *** pitakill has quit IRC[22:32:09] <tibyke> aboyz, other[22:32:25] <tibyke> error msg is quite helpful, cant you read it?[22:36:39] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[22:39:52] <aboyz> tiby i did[22:39:54] <aboyz> but other can send it[22:39:57] <aboyz> but not me[22:42:34] *** weggpod has joined #postfix[22:44:16] <b0rked> aboyz: you send other emails fine?[22:44:39] <b0rked> this one bounces.. Recipient address rejected: User unknown[22:45:18] <b0rked> thats enought to tell me its not your problem.. but the reciving MTA's[22:56:54] *** brancaleone has quit IRC[23:06:21] <Motoko-chan> mikefoo, figure out why so many connection issues.[23:09:58] *** hemry_ has quit IRC[23:10:28] *** hemry_ has joined #postfix[23:12:08] *** Kamping_Kaiser has joined #postfix[23:15:56] *** duki has quit IRC[23:20:32] *** duki has joined #postfix[23:20:43] *** githogori_ has joined #postfix[23:24:19] *** j_s has quit IRC[23:26:31] *** growltiger has quit IRC[23:32:15] *** githogori has quit IRC[23:33:08] *** pitakill has quit IRC[23:33:29] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[23:35:43] <aboyz> broked u there[23:35:47] <aboyz> i send other fine[23:35:59] <aboyz> but i can use gmail and send to that address and it goes thru[23:36:02] <aboyz> so what is wrong?[23:43:12] *** felix_da_catz has quit IRC[23:45:06] *** Trengo has quit IRC[23:45:15] *** lunaphyte has joined #postfix[23:45:16] *** brancaleone has joined #postfix[23:45:48] *** x-ip has joined #postfix[23:46:46] *** dembug is now known as Azio[23:46:55] *** Azio is now known as dembug[23:46:56] *** bsdnewb07 has quit IRC[23:50:00] *** war has quit IRC[23:53:12] *** pitakill has quit IRC[23:54:00] *** yann|away is now known as yannf[23:54:30] *** duki has quit IRC[23:55:39] *** pitakill has joined #postfix[23:56:54] *** duki has joined #postfix[23:57:33] *** ikaro^ has joined #postfix[23:59:30] *** ikaro has quit IRC