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[00:19:01] <victori_> I have spamd/amvisd setup to tag spam with **spam** header tag, is it possible to setup postfix to automatically create a junk folder per user and throw in mail that was tagged spam in that folder?
[00:20:06] <hax> Signum: aha!
[00:20:17] <hax> Signum: dovecot works now, saslauthd works, and pam_mysql works
[00:20:20] <hax> Signum: this is fantastic
[00:20:31] <hax> Signum: the last problem is just telling postfix to use saslauthd
[00:20:34] <hax> with service 'imap'
[00:21:00] <higuita> victori_: yes, you can use the procmail to filter that
[00:21:06] <rob0> It's simpler and cleaner to ignore the header and have amavisd-new append +spam to the username.
[00:21:43] <rob0> Then your delivery agent can deliver user+spam mail to a quarantine folder.
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[00:22:05] <victori_> we got some funky mails that trigger off some really high scores that are not spam
[00:22:23] <victori_> and I want to make sure it reaches the user mailbox but thrown into an imap folder named spam
[00:22:26] <victori_> and let them worry about it
[00:22:58] <victori_> or just say fsck it and tell them to setup a filter on their client to search for the header
[00:23:57] <victori_> ya your right procmail it is
[00:24:43] <victori_> actually it will conflict with my vhosts
[00:25:57] <higuita> victori_: you can follow the rob0 tip to change the user email instead of subject
[00:26:24] <hparker> maildrop can filter into different directories
[00:26:41] <victori_> that won't work since user won't see the mail then
[00:27:18] <higuita> then put a new transport that delivers a little different, it delivers not to the inbox, but the spam folder
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[00:28:56] <victori_> I hate my $users
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[00:31:07] <rob0> I don't understand what won't work, because we seem to be talking about the same thing.
[00:32:04] <rob0> I use local(8) delivery, and a ~/.forward+spam file to control spam delivery.
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[00:48:48] <victori_> ya won't work that easily
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[00:48:55] <victori_> I have postgresql backend vhosts solution
[00:49:01] <victori_> they don't have unix accounts
[00:50:44] <victori_> I do wish it was as clear cut as you make it out to be ;-/
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[00:58:18] <higuita> victori_: http://www.phparchitecture.com/howto_show.php?id=2
[00:59:00] <higuita> check the maildrop config, you can filter with it to a database, to different folders of the virtual user
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[00:59:55] <higuita> my first tip was procmail, but that requires unix users, maildrop DONT requires unix users
[01:01:57] <victori_> thanks
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[01:15:00] <victori_> higuita, thank you
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[01:28:58] <hax> Signum: still around?
[01:29:33] <caravena> No recib mail.
[01:29:39] <caravena> recibe
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[01:31:51] <caravena> message in queue
[01:32:05] <caravena> in log not message of problem...
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[01:49:02] <rob0> victori_, actually even with virtual(8) delivery it's not that difficult. You put user+spam@domain entries in your virtual_mailbox_maps.
[01:49:30] <rob0> or maildrop if you want to use maildrop for other reasons.
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[01:50:06] <victori_> I don't want to send it to /another/ user, just store it in a junk folder on the users behalf
[01:51:06] <rob0> Who said send to another user?
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[04:32:08] <hax> ok, i figured out my problem is not a pam problem or a mysql problem
[04:32:17] <hax> the problem is definitely postfix communicating with saslauthd
[04:34:05] <hax> http://pastebin.ca/508608 that's the problem in the maillog
[04:37:16] <ssquid> are you running smtpd instance chrooted? I've seen that before, and that was the problem
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[04:37:39] <hax> ssquid: unfortunately no :/
[04:37:47] <hax> or i don't think so anyway... all of the chroot things are 'n'
[04:38:25] <hax> yeah, they're all 'n'
[04:39:02] <hax> ssquid: it seems to be reading /usr/lib/sasl2/smtpd.conf in the sense that if i give it something totally wrong it produces different errors
[04:40:31] <ssquid> does the sasl DB exist at all? Maybe permissions?..
[04:41:06] <hax> ssquid: it doesn't exist... and my understanding was that it shouldn't, because i'm using pam? if i do 'testsaslauthd -s smtp -u user -p pass' it comes back 'OK'
[04:43:34] <ssquid> scrolling up, you're attempting to auth via mysql?
[04:44:35] <hax> ssquid: yup yup, and it works great... dovecot is able to use pam natively to do it, also that testsaslauthd works and that uses pam_mysql
[04:44:56] <ssquid> meaning, postfix -> saslauthd -> pam
[04:44:57] <ssquid> ok
[04:45:04] <hax> thats what i *want* to happen, yeah
[04:45:11] <hax> and i know the saslauthd->pam part is already right
[04:45:16] <hax> because thats what testsaslauthd is using
[04:45:22] <ssquid> well I have that setup working here
[04:45:26] <hax> so really its just a matter of making postfix use sasl properly
[04:45:42] <hax> i think the problem is either in /etc/sysconfig/saslauthd or /usr/lib/sasl2/smtpd.conf
[04:45:44] <hax> let me post both, sec
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[04:46:37] <victori> maildroprc should be in the courier directory on etc?
[04:47:04] <hax> http://pastebin.ca/508624
[04:47:29] <hax> ssquid: my guess is if there's a problem, it's in smtpd.conf, but i've tried a bunch of things in there
[04:49:10] <ssquid> well, my setup is similar, but in smtp.conf I have "mech_list: plain login"
[04:50:02] <ssquid> can't imagine why would that make any diference but
[04:50:23] <hax> actually, it does, it produces a different error
[04:50:30] <hax> sec, let me capture both logs and maybe it'll be a clue
[04:57:10] <hax> ssquid: alright: http://pastebin.ca/508639
[04:57:29] <hax> ssquid: so that tells me it's reading the file and doing something with it
[05:00:34] <hax> so somewhere between that config file and saslauthd, this is falling apart
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[05:02:50] <neuonyx> lo all
[05:03:03] <hax> 'lo
[05:03:31] <neuonyx> i just installed debian etch, and postfix -- am trying to get it to act as a backup MX for my domains.. i added relay_domains = blah.com, blah2.com to my main.cf but it doesnt seem to be working
[05:03:38] <neuonyx> can anyone shed some light?
[05:03:39] <neuonyx> :)
[05:04:22] <hax> sorry, i'm still working on my *first* mail server
[05:04:23] <hax> heh
[05:04:52] <neuonyx> oh
[05:04:53] <neuonyx> :(
[05:05:26] <hax> the people here are really helpful if you stick around though
[05:06:07] <neuonyx> yeah
[05:06:10] <neuonyx> they just all idle tho
[05:06:11] <neuonyx> ?
[05:06:11] <neuonyx> :)
[05:06:33] <hax> note sure
[05:08:02] <hax> *not
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[05:09:36] <victori> keep getting; warning: private/maildrop socket: malformed response   when maildrop -d myuser -V < somefile
[05:09:37] <victori> works
[05:10:01] <victori> maildrop  unix  -       n       n       -       -       pipe
[05:10:01] <victori>   flags=DRhu user=root argv=/usr/local/bin/maildrop -d ${recipient} -V
[05:10:13] <victori> not a clue why it might be failing with pipe
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[05:14:20] <neuonyx> :( :(
[05:14:22] <neuonyx> this pissing me off
[05:14:41] <victori> anyone know why my pipe is going in the shitter?
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[05:15:04] <ssquid> hax: what does 'postconf smtpd_sasl_security_options' say?
[05:15:34] <hax> ssquid: smtpd_sasl_security_options = noanonymous
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[05:17:59] <neuonyx> oh i got it
[05:18:00] <neuonyx> haha
[05:18:06] <neuonyx> the domain iw as testing was also in mydestination
[05:18:08] <neuonyx> lolol
[05:18:10] <neuonyx> oh well
[05:18:11] <neuonyx> thakn you
[05:18:12] <neuonyx> good luck hax
[05:18:13] <neuonyx> bows
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[05:20:18] <hax> network is 'maqr' password is 'lolz'
[05:20:19] <hax> err
[05:20:22] <hax> wrong window
[05:20:44] <ssquid> ouch;)
[05:21:11] <hax> hah, nah, its just for hamachi
[05:21:17] <hax> anyone can join it, i dont care
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[05:24:11] <hax> ssquid: any idea on my sasl weirdness?
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[05:25:14] <ssquid> not really. I've reproduced the same error here, by specifiing 'noplaintext' in smtpd_sasl_security_options
[05:25:23] <ssquid> but since you don't have that... no go
[05:26:42] <hax> ssquid: the first or second error?
[05:26:49] <hax> ssquid: i think you can reproduce the second one just by making up anything
[05:26:50] <ssquid> the second
[05:26:53] <hax> yeah
[05:27:02] <hax> the first one is way more disheartening, since there's no clue what could be wrong
[05:29:10] <ssquid> You might want to try running saslauthd in debug mode
[05:29:19] <hax> i can do that?
[05:29:43] <ssquid> sure, with -d
[05:30:46] <hax> one sec
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[05:31:37] <hax> oh sweet
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[05:33:17] <hax> ssquid: aha!
[05:34:51] <hax> ssquid: it never even gets to sasl
[05:34:56] <hax> ssquid: this is postfix's fault
[05:35:16] <ssquid> that's unlikely ;)
[05:35:24] <ssquid> I have the same setup and it works like charm
[05:35:25] <hax> seriously
[05:36:22] <hax> ssquid: well, saslauthd -d shows nothing when postfix should be passing stuff off to it
[05:36:52] <ssquid> that would point to a problem in postfix configuration
[05:37:26] <ssquid> so, it's not postfix's fault, it's yours ;-)
[05:37:37] <hax> heh
[05:37:41] <hax> but i followed all the howtos..
[05:37:53] <hax> sec, lemme review it and post it if i still cant figure it out
[05:39:38] <victori> man why does maildrop have to be so stubborn in getting it to work
[05:39:51] <victori> can I just pipe maildrop to user root?
[05:40:57] <hax> ssquid: http://pastebin.ca/508711
[05:41:04] <hax> ssquid: thats the only stuff that looks relevant
[05:45:48] <hax> ssquid: roughly what you have?
[05:46:10] <ssquid> I'll paste it
[05:46:43] <ssquid> http://pastebin.ca/508712
[05:47:33] <hax> hmm
[05:52:09] <hax> ssquid: what version of postfix is this from?
[05:52:34] <ssquid> 2.3
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[05:54:01] <hax> hrm :/
[05:54:04] <hax> well this just doesnt work
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[06:08:00] <ssquid> I've reproduced it again
[06:08:09] <ssquid> this time i've removed the sasl auth modules
[06:08:22] <ssquid> it gives that error, but tetsaslauthd works the same
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[06:12:49] <ssquid> hax: do you have the necessary sasl2 modules in place?
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[06:13:42] <snappy> hax: sorry what's the issue? sasl not showing up in smtp, not allowing logins or ... ?
[06:15:50] <snappy> hax: and have you configured the .conf filse correctly for sasl?
[06:17:31] <ssquid> snappy: he's getting "fatal: no SASL authentication mechanisms" from postfix/smtpd
[06:21:50] <snappy> well briefly looking at postfix source, it seems to occur after postfix initializes sasl, and then tries to get the mechanism list from SASL
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[06:23:24] <RedShift> when writing a delivery agent, are there some things I should think of?
[06:24:10] <snappy> the one problem i see a lot in documentation of MDAs is the concern for duplicate messages
[06:25:18] <ssquid> snappy: makes sense, he is specifying mech's not available in sasl. Most likely missing authentication modules
[06:25:58] <snappy> spot on, but lets blame postfix anyways.
[06:27:17] <RedShift> snappy: yes I'm aware of that, but that's easily worked around. I was just wondering, if you are writing to, say, file "abc" in $maildir/new, and while you are writing, an IMAP client connects
[06:27:35] <RedShift> will it then try to move, the file you are writing, to $maildir/cur?
[06:28:21] <snappy> RedShift: even if it does, it shouldn't matter so long as your MDA has the file open.
[06:28:35] <snappy> but it might hcange some flags i guess
[06:28:39] <RedShift> aha! locks ftw
[06:29:27] <snappy> writing an MDA though, fairly ambitious :P?
[06:29:45] <RedShift> snappy: there's nothing to it
[06:30:19] <RedShift> (I think, am I missing something here? it's just writing files to a directory...)
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[06:32:36] <f3ew> RedShift, you always write to $MAILDIR/tmp and then atomically rename it to a file in $MAILDIR/new/
[06:32:53] <RedShift> f3ew: right, forgot about that
[06:34:00] <hax> oh sorry, i ran afk for a minute
[06:34:15] <hax> ssquid: i must yeah, or testsaslauthd wouldnt have worked
[06:34:24] <hax> snappy: http://pastebin.ca/508639
[06:35:30] <ssquid> hax: not really. I've removed the modules and testsaslauthd still worked
[06:35:42] <hax> ssquid: really? what are the modules then?
[06:35:46] <hax> maybe i dont have them
[06:36:02] <ssquid> those specified as auth mechanism
[06:36:11] <snappy> check your /ust/lib/sasl2 or wherever it is.
[06:36:15] <snappy> it should probably have them as .so files.
[06:36:33] <ssquid> it should be libplain.so, liblogin.so, etc..
[06:36:51] <snappy> SASL authentication problem: unable to open Berkeley db /etc/sasldb2: No such file or directory
[06:36:55] <snappy> that also seems to be a problem.
[06:37:14] <hax> ssquid: http://pastebin.ca/508803
[06:37:25] <snappy> i'm not familiar with saslauthd though
[06:37:36] <snappy> i don't think it's a module for sasl
[06:37:45] <ssquid> hax: that should be it
[06:37:54] <ssquid> you're missing modules in there
[06:37:55] <hax> snappy: i tried touching the file, but it didn't do anything with it
[06:37:59] <hax> ssquid: i am?
[06:38:47] <ssquid> sure, mech_list contains 'plain login', but you have no such modules
[06:38:52] <hax> oh!
[06:38:56] <hax> genius!
[06:39:15] <snappy> if i recall correctly, saslauthd only supported one or two mechanisms?
[06:39:37] <hax> snappy: they need to be plaintext (or login, i guess) for me, because i'm using pam
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[06:40:04] <hax> ssquid: haha! cyrus-sasl-plain.i386                    2.1.19-5.EL4           base
[06:40:23] <snappy> yeah, you're missing them then
[06:40:30] <hax> wow, thats a fantastic call
[06:40:35] <hax> sec, i bet it works now
[06:42:10] <hax> yes!
[06:42:15] <hax> now pam is the only thing failing!
[06:42:46] <ssquid> well... one step at a time ;)
[06:42:51] <hax> yeah, i'm thrilled
[06:43:01] <hax> now do_auth is a failure
[06:43:06] <hax> but that's not bad, because that's just a pam problem
[06:43:24] <hax> yup
[06:43:30] <hax> i can fix that :)
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[06:45:01] <victori> ~logs
[06:45:07] <victori> got logs here
[06:45:30] <sinthetek> i'm trying to find a mechanism by which authentication can be encryted when a mua attempts to send a msg
[06:46:33] <sinthetek> from what i can find in google, it seems most currently implemented/used protocols only support encrypting msg sending/receipt but i cannot find how to actually make sure login info isn't sent plain-text
[06:46:37] <hax> sinthetek: tls?
[06:47:00] <hax> sinthetek: you can either do the connection with ssl and send it in plain text, or you can use something like cram-md5 which is not plaintext
[06:47:12] <hax> sinthetek: ssl would be the prefered option, and it's called 'TLS'
[06:47:16] <sinthetek> hax: according to the docs i've been reading, all mention of encryption occurs when the msg is sent, not during authentication
[06:47:24] <sinthetek> hrm...
[06:47:37] <hax> sinthetek: you're reading the wrong docs then... it sounds like you're talking about encrypting messages with gpg or something
[06:48:00] <hax> sinthetek: all you need to do is give postfix a private and public key, then tell it to enable tls
[06:48:08] <hax> sinthetek: http://www.postfix.org/TLS_README.html
[06:49:29] <hax> ssquid: it's selecting the right stuff from sql, not sure what the problem is
[06:49:41] <sinthetek> hax: nah, i was reading commentary on rfc2487 docs
[06:49:41] <hax> oh wait, no it's not
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[06:49:56] <hax> sinthetek: right service, wrong documents :)
[06:50:04] <sinthetek> http://www.aet.tu-cottbus.de/personen/jaenicke/pfixtls/doc/intro.html
[06:50:15] <sinthetek> well, they didn't explcitly say it wasn't crypted
[06:50:16] <hax> sinthetek: you dont actually need to send the password as a hash if you're using TLS, because it's not in plaintext anyway
[06:50:32] <sinthetek> but it just seemed all attention/specifics were regarding msg transmission and not auth
[06:50:43] <sinthetek> yeah, that is what i was looking for
[06:50:47] <hax> well, TLS doesn't concern auth
[06:50:51] <hax> thats what sasl is for
[06:51:02] <hax> TLS only concerns certificate exchange (from what i can tell)
[06:51:23] <hax> think of it like https:// for smtp... where sasl is more like a login on your https site :)
[06:53:03] <snappy> except when you have PLAIN/LOGIN authentication it doesn't help much.
[06:53:12] <hax> snappy: hmm?
[06:53:27] <hax> snappy: well, as long as the certs are valid, it shouldn't matter if you send plain/login
[06:53:31] <hax> right?
[06:53:38] <snappy> oh i thought you were excluding TLS
[06:53:59] <hax> err, i didn't mean for it to sound that way
[06:54:00] <snappy> then yeah, TLS will handle all that crap, I prefer to have passwords secure though regardless.
[06:54:02] <hax> sinthetek: you get what i mean?
[06:54:24] <hax> snappy: i don't, because i'm storing them in mysql... so for me to store them hashed, i can't accept them hashed from the client
[06:55:04] <snappy> there's patches for cyrus that let you read in crypt, md5, sha1, etc. passwords using auxprop
[06:55:15] <hax> oh, that's probably a good idea then
[06:56:14] <hax> brb
[06:57:45] <victori> man is postfix/courier/pgsql/maildrop a bit ofa pita setting up
[06:57:52] <victori> completely uptight with permissions
[06:58:52] <f3ew> yes
[06:59:29] <victori> the fact maildrop permissions are compiled into a binary leaves a big "wtf"
[06:59:40] <victori> which users can do -d
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[07:41:29] <qiyong> how to allow relay?
[07:41:38] <qiyong> so without authentication?
[07:41:54] <qiyong> only for some specific IPs
[07:43:37] <f3ew> add them to mynetworks
[07:43:40] <f3ew> !mynetworks
[07:43:40] <knoba> f3ew: 'mynetworks' : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The list of "trusted" SMTP clients that can relay email.
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[08:31:42] <qiyong> f3ew, will it append or overwrite?
[08:31:49] <qiyong> f3ew, greetings
[08:31:55] <qiyong> f3ew, you are everywhere
[08:32:31] <qiyong> f3ew,  i've set mynetworks_style = subnet
[08:32:42] <qiyong> f3ew, i'd like to append
[08:33:05] <qiyong> # Alternatively, you can specify the mynetworks list by hand, in
[08:33:05] <qiyong> # which case Postfix ignores the mynetworks_style setting.
[08:33:07] <qiyong> ok
[08:34:02] <f3ew> heh
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[08:35:09] <St3rnchen> moins
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[08:41:52] <Lap_64> i dont think relaying without auth is good idea f3ew
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[08:44:12] <ek> Yeah, f3ew! You omnipotent bastard! :P
[08:45:18] <f3ew> Lap_64, it's a perfectly fine thing
[08:45:37] <f3ew> ek, omnipotence is a contradiction
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[08:45:48] <f3ew> perhaps you mean omnipresent?
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[08:46:21] <ek> Contradiction? How so?
[08:46:34] <ek> He said you were everywhere.
[08:46:44] <ek> Plus, it's at the same time.
[08:47:31] <f3ew> omnipotence == absolute power
[08:47:45] <many> chicks dig my omnipotence.
[08:47:54] <f3ew> Omnipotence implies the ability to create an object so heavy that even you cannot move it
[08:48:01] <f3ew> and you can move it
[08:48:24] <ek> Erm. Yes. Sorry.
[08:48:27] <ek> I'm drunk.
[08:48:28] <ek> ... again.
[08:48:41] <many> dont drink and irc
[08:48:45] <ek> I try not to.
[08:48:52] <Alex1> someone can help me?
[08:48:55] <ek> It's rough for me though. I haven't nothing better to do.
[08:48:56] <ek> Bbiab.
[08:49:06] <f3ew> ask
[08:49:32] <Alex1> i have a big problem using postfix
[08:50:31] <Alex1> mail are sent using example.com
[08:50:35] <Alex1> as domains
[08:51:16] <Alex1> if my email is alex1 at alex1 dot tld when i send an email it appears sent by web2_alex1 at example dot com
[08:51:24] <f3ew> Set it in the MUA
[08:51:25] <Alex1> where web2_alex1 is the user
[08:51:29] <Alex1> MUA?
[08:52:30] <Alex1> how i can set it?
[08:53:09] <Alex1> in squirrelmail i see it
[08:54:16] <Alex1> that's ok
[08:54:25] <Alex1> the first problem is solved ;)
[08:54:32] <Alex1> thank you
[08:54:37] <Alex1> the second one is this
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[09:13:38] <Alex1> hello
[09:14:45] <Alex1> someone can help me to test my MTA? local test works but when i send an email to a remote address it is not received
[09:15:54] <Signum> Alex1: is it sent? (mail.log)
[09:17:43] <Alex1> it seem so
[09:18:41] <Signum> Alex1: then it's a problem of the remote server
[09:18:44] <Alex1> http://nopaste.com/p/aqQTa227hb
[09:18:50] <Alex1> it give me this
[09:19:04] <Signum> looks good
[09:19:40] <Alex1> also
[09:19:40] <Alex1> http://nopaste.com/p/auuvXL2BQ
[09:20:14] <Signum> Alex1: rumors say that hotmail is silently dropping mail they don't like
[09:21:09] <Alex1> on first one
[09:21:10] <Alex1> 2007-05-25 09:18:03 1HrU3n-00031T-Fo <= alex1 at alex1 dot it H=(mizar.weitalia.net) [81.29.207.16] P=esmtps X=TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256 S=934 id=53080.85.18.14.41.1180077485.squirrel at mizar dot weitalia.net T="test send" from <alex1 at alex1 dot it> for alex at weitalia dot net
[09:21:10] <Alex1> 2007-05-25 09:18:03 1HrU3n-00031T-Fo => alex <alex at weitalia dot net> F=<alex1 at alex1 dot it> R=virtual_user T=virtual_localdelivery S=1088
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[09:21:28] <Alex1> so it's arrived isn't it?
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[09:24:33] <Alex1> Signum?
[09:31:50] <Signum> Alex1: it should be. what is that log?
[09:32:30] <Alex1> on remote
[09:32:30] <Alex1> 2007-05-25 09:27:49 1HrUDE-0003Gd-Qy => alex <alex at weitalia dot net> F=<alex1 at alex1 dot it> R=virtual_user T=virtual_localdelivery S=1489
[09:32:30] <Alex1> 2007-05-25 09:27:49 1HrUDE-0003Ga-MA => alex <alex at weitalia dot net> F=<alex1 at alex1 dot it> R=spamcheck_director T=spamcheck S=1211
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[11:15:00] <lost_and_unfound> i have configured postfix and dovecot, i can receive mail to the server but i am unable to send mails out to diffent domains, i take it that its a common config error, i have googled around but have not found a good FAQ or solution to explain why its doing it. any suggestions ? thanks
[11:15:37] <sep> lost_and_unfound, you get relaying denied ?
[11:15:51] <sep> lost_and_unfound, i use SMTP_AUTH to determine who gets to send using my server
[11:20:07] <lost_and_unfound> hi sep, i will quickly take a loo at that SMTP_AUTH, however the error reads (mail for domain.com loops back to myself)
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[11:21:33] <sep> !loop
[11:21:34] <knoba> sep: Error: "loop" is not a valid command.
[11:21:46] <sep> that means that your server dont think it's responsible for that domain
[11:21:59] <sep> but you have configured  in DNS that it is
[11:22:27] <sep> so add that domain to your local or virtual domain list (depending on where you want it)
[11:23:17] <sep> local = mydestination,, virtual = virtual_mailbox_domains
[11:23:22] <sep> !mailloop
[11:23:22] <knoba> sep: Error: "mailloop" is not a valid command.
[11:24:27] <lost_and_unfound> sep, but by doing that the server will not be able to email the person back ? then i need to set every single domain i send a mail to in to conf file ? or am i missing the point ?
[11:25:23] <sep> only for mail that the sever should handle as it's own
[11:25:55] <lost_and_unfound> the server is setup for abc.com, and from abc.com i can mail to any abc.com mail address and gmail.com can mail to abc.com but from abc.com i cannnot mail to gmail.com
[11:26:02] <sep>  (mail for domain.com loops back to myself)  means that DNS say that mail to domani.com should go to your server . if that is wrong then fix DNS
[11:26:46] <sep> does it say  (mail for gmail.com loops back to myself)
[11:26:55] <f3ew> !loopback
[11:26:56] <knoba> f3ew: 'loopback' : 'Mail loops back to myself' means that your Postfix wanted to send out the mail to the internet but then discovered that the DNS says your mail server should be responsible. Most likely you forgot to list your domain in mydestination or virtual_(alias|mailbox)_domains
[11:27:01] <sep> then you either work for google.... or you have a royal fuckup i your dns
[11:27:15] <f3ew> or in your config
[11:29:28] <lost_and_unfound> lol... sep, nope, dns is still fine (i dont work with dns on the mail server, using the ISP's DNS) it still logs that abc.com loops back to myself, althought the email a sent TO in gmail.com and i send it FROM abc.com
[11:29:49] <sep> lost_and_unfound, then the gmail deliverry failed and it bounced to abc.com
[11:29:54] <sep> and it's the bounce you see in your log
[11:30:09] <sep> perhaps...
[11:30:25] <sep> you could put your log on a paster for more inteligent answers
[11:30:35] <lost_and_unfound> nope, not a bouce, i just did a ngrep, it does not even get to connect to port 25
[11:31:16] <lost_and_unfound> ok... looks like i will need to go paste it somewhere...
[11:31:54] <lost_and_unfound> postconf -n sufficient enough ?
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[12:45:10] <tuxcrafter> Signum: are you ther
[12:45:11] <tuxcrafter> e
[12:45:28] <tuxcrafter> i am playing around with dovecot and the beta tutorial
[12:45:37] <tuxcrafter> that namespace thing
[12:45:42] <tuxcrafter> do I have to do this
[12:45:46] <tuxcrafter> it is not very clear
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[13:10:09] <Signum> tuxcrafter: hi...
[13:10:22] <tuxcrafter> hello
[13:13:58] <tuxcrafter> Signum: do I need to add a namespace private?
[13:14:11] <tuxcrafter> in the  dovecot config file
[13:14:15] <tuxcrafter> like in your tutorial
[13:14:33] <tuxcrafter> or is it only for uses that have done the previous tutorials
[13:14:37] <tuxcrafter> it is not very clear
[13:17:34] <Signum> tuxcrafter: the namespace definition is needed so that the INBOX is searched for where courier has put it. it's especially important for users who switch from courier to dovecot
[13:17:51] <tuxcrafter> oke so in a clean setup
[13:17:52] <Signum> tuxcrafter: if you start fresh you can as well skip it .
[13:17:57] <tuxcrafter> perfect
[13:18:06] <tuxcrafter> please say that in the tutorial :-P
[13:18:11] <Signum> ok
[13:18:49] <Signum> tuxcrafter: well, I believe I say that already
[13:18:58] <Signum> tuxcrafter: "If you already have virtual mailboxes on your system because..."
[13:19:44] <tuxcrafter> The namespace definition is needed so that the INBOX is searched for where courier has put it. it's especially important for users who switch from courier to dovecot. If you start fresh you can as well skip it .
[13:19:57] <tuxcrafter> but that line by it and it will be fine
[13:20:14] <Signum> ok
[13:26:45] <tuxcrafter> Signum: I cant find the mail_location = part in the /etc/dovecot/dovecot-sql.conf file
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[13:38:56] <tuxcrafter> Signum: there is a dangerous situation in the default dovecot-sql.conf
[13:39:55] <tuxcrafter> there is a password_query added on the last line of the file
[13:40:22] <tuxcrafter> this is done in a way that destroys the structure of the config file
[13:40:42] <tuxcrafter> there should only be one #password_query =
[13:40:44] <tuxcrafter> in the file
[13:41:14] <tuxcrafter> it should have be done like this:
[13:41:17] <tuxcrafter> # Examples
[13:41:17] <tuxcrafter> #   user_query =
[13:45:43] <tuxcrafter> Signum: haha this is a strange warning:
[13:45:43] <tuxcrafter> file:///home/jelle/Desktop/DialogBlocks%20v4.08.nzb
[13:45:43] <tuxcrafter> file:///home/jelle/Desktop/SMALLVILLE_S2.nzb
[13:45:47] <tuxcrafter> how dam
[13:45:49] <tuxcrafter> e
[13:45:55] <many> nice URL.
[13:45:58] <tuxcrafter> wrong pased
[13:46:03] <tuxcrafter> Restarting mail server: dovecotWarning: Fixing permissions of /var/run/dovecot to be world-readable
[13:46:03] <tuxcrafter> Warning: Corrected permissions for login directory /var/run/dovecot/login
[13:46:16] <tuxcrafter> warning Corrected :_D
[13:46:23] <tuxcrafter> now it is ok
[13:47:18] <tuxcrafter> perfect :_P
[13:47:29] <tuxcrafter> Signum: mail_location = /home/vmail/%d/%u is not needed
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[13:52:24] <innu> Hey. I have problem. I changed my smtp port to 26 because 25 is blocked. I can do telnet urgas.eu 26 well. But if i try to send email from evolution client or smth then it cant even request mech list or send mail. Any ideas?
[14:00:13] <cpm> smtp is port 25.
[14:00:16] <cpm> not port 26
[14:00:58] <tuxcrafter> Signum: i got errors how do i debug them, witch log file?
[14:01:05] <tuxcrafter> * OK Dovecot ready.
[14:01:05] <tuxcrafter> login john at example dot com summersun
[14:01:05] <tuxcrafter> login BAD Error in IMAP command received by server.
[14:01:36] <many> innu: use the submission port instead of 26.
[14:01:55] <cpm> you probably want to set it back where it belongs, use your ISP as a smart host relay to send mail. Then you will want to configure the submission port for your clients to send mail via your server
[14:02:07] * many nods
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[14:30:19] <Turt|e> if i need to setup a milter after the queue should i then used an smtpd instance to run the milter ?? or what would be the easiest and/or best way to do that ?
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[14:33:24] <tuxcrafter> many: Signum: what is going wrong here, and how to fix it? http://pastebin.ca/509352
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[14:35:09] <many> the MD5 password is not in the md5 format that dovecot expects.
[14:35:20] <many> plain_md5_verify(john at example dot com): Invalid password encoding
[14:35:43] <tuxcrafter> how is that possible
[14:36:28] <many> well
[14:36:34] <many> *i* do think the following
[14:36:48] <many> view_users.password is too short
[14:37:07] <tuxcrafter> ow oke lets check the table
[14:37:14] <many> $ echo -n summersun | md5sum
[14:37:15] <many> 14cbfb845af1f030e372b1cb9275e6dd  -
[14:37:21] <innu> many, cpm. I changed it to use submission. But still my evolution client can't connect to it. Do i need to change port from client too or smth? Can't find a place where to change it. And if i want to use with SSL, then i get error: Connection refused.
[14:37:24] <many> the field seems cut short at 72$
[14:37:36] <many> so its missing like 15 or so bytes.
[14:37:47] <tuxcrafter> password VARCHAR(32) NOT NULL,
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[14:38:26] <many> that should be sufficient; UPDATE view_users SET password="14cbfb845af1f030e372b1cb9275e6dd" WHERE email='john at example dot com';
[14:40:20] <tuxcrafter> can i check the database table format what is the command for that?
[14:40:33] <many> explain table;
[14:41:47] <tuxcrafter> wo oeps
[14:41:57] <tuxcrafter>  password  | varchar(20)
[14:42:03] <many> see :)
[14:42:37] <many> dont ask me which ALTER TABLE you would need to fix that, though
[14:43:15] <tuxcrafter> :-P
[14:43:27] <tuxcrafter> i will remove the table and recreate it then
[14:43:36] <many> that'd work.
[14:44:08] <tuxcrafter> foreign key constraint fails
[14:44:10] <tuxcrafter> damm
[14:44:26] <tuxcrafter> i was hopping it would cascade
[14:44:36] <tuxcrafter> like i thought it should
[14:45:20] <many> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/alter-table.html
[14:45:21] <many> :)
[14:45:50] <Signum> tuxcrafter: why is the mail_location not needed?
[14:45:54] <many> theres even an example ALTER TABLE t1 MODIFY b BIGINT NOT NULL;
[14:46:05] <tuxcrafter> many: this is wierd i can delete al users in the table but not the table
[14:46:27] <tuxcrafter> Signum: it is not in the config file
[14:46:41] <many> damn integrity checks. disallow you to shoot yourself in your feet
[14:47:49] <Signum> tuxcrafter: by default you mean?
[14:47:54] <tuxcrafter> yes
[14:48:09] <Signum> tuxcrafter: Hmm, I'm pretty sure.
[14:48:10] <tuxcrafter> i have do have to find out some more
[14:48:21] <Signum> tuxcrafter: where else do you define where the mailboxes are located?
[14:48:28] <tuxcrafter> in the sql
[14:48:41] <tuxcrafter> with your query
[14:49:13] <tuxcrafter> and it is in the dovecot.conf
[14:55:10] <tuxcrafter> many: ALTER TABLE virtual_users MODIFY password VARCHAR(32) NOT NULL;
[14:55:11] <tuxcrafter> got it
[14:59:30] <tuxcrafter> pass summersun
[14:59:31] <tuxcrafter> +OK Logged in.
[14:59:32] <tuxcrafter> wiee
[15:03:11] <tuxcrafter> login john at example dot com summersun
[15:03:12] <tuxcrafter> login BAD Error in IMAP command received by server.
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[15:05:52] <tuxcrafter> damm why does pop3 work but imap not
[15:08:14] <tuxcrafter> how do I debug this
[15:08:31] <tuxcrafter> there is noting significant in the logs
[15:08:46] <tuxcrafter> imap-login: Disconnected: Too many invalid commands: rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, secured
[15:11:02] <Signum> tuxcrafter: IMAP commands are always preceeded by a unique id.
[15:11:15] <Signum> tuxcrafter: if you send "login ..." it will not work
[15:11:26] <tuxcrafter> i got it from your tuto
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[15:11:37] <tuxcrafter> damm no
[15:11:41] <tuxcrafter> there is a 1 for it
[15:11:45] <Signum> tuxcrafter: exactly.
[15:11:49] * cpm chuckles and points at Signum
[15:11:54] <Signum> tuxcrafter: I'll reformat that paragraph anyway so that it's clearer
[15:12:11] <tuxcrafter> 1 OK Logged in.
[15:12:20] * Signum read the IMAP specification yesterday and still has a headache...
[15:12:25] <tuxcrafter> i have been fucking around for 50 miniutes  :-D
[15:12:48] <cpm> instead of searching google and reading
[15:13:04] <Signum> fucking for 50 minutes? wow... I never made it that long.
[15:13:20] * cpm is also quite impressed
[15:13:23] <tuxcrafter> i also got a bug in me database
[15:13:39] <tuxcrafter> did not update my table to fit the MD5
[15:13:43] <tuxcrafter> password
[15:16:37] <sunspec> stat=Deferred: Name server: some.domain.tld.: host name lookup failure
[15:16:54] <sunspec> i am getting that error but i can do an nslookup
[15:17:36] <Signum> sunspec: postfix running chroot? if yes: resolv.conf in the chroot jail directory okay?
[15:17:37] <sunspec> i also added  the domain to my hosts file. Anyone know what else might cause this problem.
[15:18:39] <sunspec> i have the domain.tld in resolv.conf
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[15:18:57] <sunspec> Do i need the some.domai.tld in resolv.conf also?
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[15:30:26] <youngdev> hey all
[15:31:23] <youngdev> I am having a problem with the following line in my config file file:
[15:31:26] <youngdev> local_recipient_maps =  ldap:ldapsource
[15:31:48] <youngdev> if I add that line, postfix hangs and never sends a 220 banner
[15:34:41] <youngdev> I have an ldap server and I want postfix to verify that all recipients are in the ldap system before passing the mail on to cyrus
[15:35:04] <f3ew> do you have ldapsource_mumble* defined in main.cf?
[15:35:12] <f3ew> and what are your logs saying?
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[15:36:54] <youngdev> http://www.pastebin.ca/509436
[15:37:07] <youngdev> that is the pertinent ldap stuff from my config
[15:37:40] <youngdev> I am pretty sure that it is complete altho ldap postfix relationship is poorly documented
[15:37:49] <youngdev> so I could be wrong
[15:38:40] <youngdev> and before you ask, My server does allow anonymous bind from localhost and sasl uses the same filter structure
[15:38:49] <youngdev> and sasl is working fine
[15:39:57] <f3ew> ldap_table(5) documents it
[15:42:50] <youngdev> I have not seen this man page before
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[15:45:35] <youngdev> do I prepend all this configs with "ldap_" in postfix or should I put them in the postfix confi file as they are in the manpage (i.e. query_filter = (uid=%u)  )
[15:46:11] * f3ew -> home
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[15:50:25] <renkho> hello, if there any way of configure in postfix that dont send mail to root ... not even process the mails to root that some services send like some crons
[15:50:27] <renkho> ?
[15:52:56] <cpm> give a deliverable address as an alias for root
[15:53:21] <cpm> that sounded wierd.
[15:53:35] <cpm> set a normal user account, and alias root to that user, read roots mail that way
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[15:59:51] <Turt|e> isnt someone running a milter after the queue in here ?
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[16:06:22] <youngdev> f3ew: was that home directed at me?
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[16:26:09] <tuxcrafter> Signum: In the tutorial the login imap username is the same as the email address. I think this is not very nice and username should only be the username without the domain
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[16:26:45] <tuxcrafter> Signum: With the thunderbird client you also get very nasty messages like john at example dot com@example.com
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[16:35:59] <tuxcrafter> many: http://pastebin.ca/509518
[16:36:01] <rob0> youngdev: it meant that f3ew was leaving work to go home.
[16:36:03] <tuxcrafter> how to fix that
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[16:36:46] <youngdev> ah
[16:36:59] <Dominian> tuxcrafter: the error tells you right there.. it doesn't take multiline input
[16:37:16] <rob0> Line 5 looks pretty clear to me.
[16:37:21] <tuxcrafter> yes i understand but how to fix it may i use commas ,
[16:37:43] * cpm thinks rob0 looks pretty clear
[16:37:44] <many> no time, sorry. :)
[16:37:49] <rob0> Read "man 5 postconf", the first part about main.cf syntax.
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[16:37:50] <youngdev> anybody here see anything wrong with my ldap config? http://www.pastebin.ca/509436
[16:37:53] <tuxcrafter> postconf -e 'smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated, reject_unauth_destination'
[16:38:01] <tuxcrafter> will that work
[16:38:05] <tuxcrafter> in the config file
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[16:39:16] <rob0> On a rob0 day, cpm can see forever.
[16:39:37] * cpm chuckles, , man, this is sooo lame
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[16:40:21] * rob0 is going to head to the swimming pool soon, to get sunburnt
[16:40:28] <cpm> go for it
[16:40:35] <cpm> gonna spend the weekend there?
[16:41:59] <rob0> Unfortunately no, I have to go home for the weekend.
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[16:42:10] <cpm> where's home?
[16:42:29] <rob0> NW Alabama.
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[16:42:49] <cpm> where abouts in NW Alabama
[16:43:32] <rob0> rural, north of Florence, almost to TN
[16:43:43] <cpm> cool
[16:43:49] <cpm> so up in the hilly bit
[16:43:57] <rob0> yup
[16:44:07] <rob0> ah reckon so
[16:44:10] <cpm> I have some Cisco 2501s I could sell you, you use them to make the internets
[16:44:16] <cpm> :)
[16:44:58] <youngdev> can postfix query ldap directly?
[16:45:19] <rob0> I'l have maw save ya some supper ... we're having roadkill :)
[16:45:26] <rob0> youngdev: see LDAP_README
[16:45:49] <youngdev> rob0: where would I find that
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[16:46:26] <cpm> sounds nice, , I don't like groundhog though, too greasy. Got some possum?
[16:46:56] <rob0> If you installed from source, see your readme_directory and/or html_directory. If not, find out where your distributor put the documentation.
[16:47:23] <cpm> So, yer not that far from Pulaski?
[16:47:50] <rob0> If your distributor didn't give you documentation, complain, and go to http://postfix.org/LDAP_README.html .
[16:48:01] <rob0> cpm: about an hour.
[16:48:18] <cpm> hrmm, pretty far
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[16:48:32] <cpm> I can honestly say, i ain't been through there then.
[16:48:41] <cpm> which is pretty off the track then
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[17:03:03] <hparker> Happy towel day! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Towel_Day
[17:08:32] <cpm> Thank you! Happy towel day yourself!
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[17:10:29] <kokoko1> hi guys
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[17:14:13] <FordLT> hello
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[17:16:36] <FordLT> I've got more of an amavisd issue than postfix, anyone active able to help me?
[17:16:50] * Dominian uses mailscanner
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[17:19:09] * Dominian knows jack about amavisd configuration, but just enough to know that I don't wanna use it :P
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[17:20:01] <FordLT> been running a fBSD/postfix/amavisd config for some time now w/out issues
[17:20:26] <FordLT> my problem is actually the av scanner
[17:20:41] <FordLT> well, mcafee av in particular
[17:21:00] <FordLT> it broke when I upgraded the scanning engine
[17:21:33] <Dominian> ahh.. I know nothing about mcaffee
[17:22:06] <hparker> amavisd-new will usually just detect the av, make sure it's uncommented in amavisd.conf
[17:22:18] <FordLT> thats ok, I've got paid support from them on their end
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[17:22:31] <FordLT> yes, I did just that hparker
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[17:22:37] <FordLT> did a reload
[17:22:43] <FordLT> but
[17:22:50] <hparker> Restart amavisd-new and look at the log
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[17:24:09] <FordLT> it was the only av scanner I was running and now I get this in the log
[17:24:11] <FordLT> relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1], delay=1510, status=deferred (host 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1] said: 451 4.5.0 Error in processing, id=82722-01, virus_scan FAILED: NO VIRUS SCANNERS AVAILABLE (in reply to end of DATA command))
[17:24:44] <FordLT> basically how do I just bypass the av scan in amavis?
[17:25:37] <hparker> Looks to me like mcafee isn't running
[17:25:59] <FordLT> hparker, yes I disabled it due to another issue
[17:26:22] <hparker> Uhm... It's shut down and you're wondering why it's not working?
[17:26:25] <hparker> Customer
[17:27:11] <FordLT> I'm wondering why mail in the queue just stops dead after the av scan fails
[17:27:20] <FordLT> instead of continuing on
[17:27:30] <hparker> Amavis should just skip it
[17:27:37] <hparker> The av scan that is
[17:27:38] <FordLT> yes, I agree
[17:27:44] <FordLT> but it isn't
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[17:28:18] <hparker> It always has for me when the av screws up... Well, if the clamav daemon is dead it'll call clamscan instead in my case
[17:28:39] <hparker> Comment out the mcafee section in amavisd.conf and restart it
[17:29:11] <FordLT> ok, I just did a #amavisd reload
[17:29:26] <FordLT> should I use another command to stop/start it?
[17:29:51] <hparker> I always use the init script, but I only run linux.. Can hardly spell bsd :P
[17:29:58] <FordLT> lol
[17:30:33] <FordLT> maybe this helps...
[17:30:33] <rob0> Be essdy. No one will expect it.
[17:30:36] <FordLT> May 25 10:54:18 toe-mgate amavis[82669]: (82669-09) WARN: all primary virus scanners failed, considering backups
[17:30:37] <FordLT> May 25 10:54:18 toe-mgate amavis[82669]: (82669-09) TROUBLE in check_mail: virus_scan FAILED: NO VIRUS SCANNERS AVAILABLE
[17:30:37] <FordLT> May 25 10:54:18 toe-mgate amavis[82669]: (82669-09) PRESERVING EVIDENCE in /usr/amavis/amavis-20070525T105418-82669
[17:30:40] * cpm can't spell hparker , has to use tab-complete
[17:30:46] <hparker> lol
[17:31:05] <cpm> restart clamd
[17:31:24] <hparker> FordLT: Odd... When it restarted, what did it log about av?
[17:31:26] <rob0> clam bake
[17:31:35] <hparker> cpm: He's using mcafee :P
[17:31:53] <cpm> sounds like a call to proprietary tech support for proprietary software
[17:31:58] <FordLT> don't worry about the mcafee shit
[17:32:10] <rob0> I thought amavisd-new would work without virus scanners.
[17:32:10] <hparker> cpm: Trying to bypass all av scans for now
[17:32:23] <cpm> go to the pool rob0 and leave the adults along
[17:32:28] <hparker> rob0: As did I, but I've always used it with clam
[17:32:43] <cpm> s/along/alone
[17:32:47] <FordLT> I've built a couple with clam too
[17:33:06] <FordLT> this customer has a paid license for mcafee and wanted it to be used
[17:33:08] <hparker> iow, I've never tried using it without av
[17:33:23] <cpm> nor I
[17:33:33] <cpm> av is pretty important
[17:33:36] <hparker> Though, I ought to.. Then I can get paid to clean them up :-o
[17:33:42] <FordLT> ok I tried a #amavisd stop then #amavisd start
[17:33:59] <FordLT> lemme try sendind and email through the queue
[17:34:23] <hparker> What's amavisd logging about av on restart?
[17:34:59] <hparker> Might be a stale sock it's finding or something
[17:35:02] <FordLT> btw, this client has multiple av scanners in-line so having this one offline isn't a big deal
[17:35:13] <hparker> Hrrmmm.... Stale sock.. Must belong to rob0
[17:35:20] <hparker> afk for a few
[17:35:23] <FordLT> maillog looks ok
[17:35:31] <FordLT> lemme send it an email
[17:35:32] <cpm> So, that's that sour milk smell
[17:38:41] <FordLT> no good
[17:38:42] <FordLT> May 25 11:37:26 toe-mgate amavis[82821]: (82821-01) WARN: all primary virus scanners failed, considering backups
[17:38:43] <FordLT> May 25 11:37:26 toe-mgate amavis[82821]: (82821-01) TROUBLE in check_mail: virus_scan FAILED: NO VIRUS SCANNERS AVAILABLE
[17:38:43] <FordLT> May 25 11:37:26 toe-mgate amavis[82821]: (82821-01) PRESERVING EVIDENCE in /usr/amavis/amavis-20070525T113725-82821
[17:38:43] <FordLT> May 25 11:37:26 toe-mgate postfix/smtp[82842]: 74FBE278: to=<administrator at xxx dot ca>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1], delay=36, status=deferred (host 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1] said: 451 4.5.0 Error in processing, id=82821-01, virus_scan FAILED: NO VIRUS SCANNERS AVAILABLE (in reply to end of DATA command))
[17:39:06] <FordLT> looks like I should get a second av running
[17:39:31] <tuxcrafter> Signum: I cant get postfix to use my onw CA certificate
[17:39:45] <FordLT> I was hoping there as a line to comment out in amavisd.conf to bypass the av check
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[17:40:36] <rob0> cpm, can't go yet, still too cold. But it's a perfect place to go on Towel Day!
[17:41:46] <rob0> AV important? IME no, clamd catches nothing that SpamAssassin wouldn't have gotten.
[17:42:21] <rob0> My results were not scientific, but I saw the same thing at 2 sites.
[17:42:23] <youngdev> anybody have any idea what this error means?
[17:42:23] <youngdev> sn=5.1.1, status=bounced (host host.domain.tdl[/var/imap/socket/lmtp] said: 550-Mailbox unknown.  Either there is no mailbox associated with this 550-name or you do not have authorization to see it. 550 5.1.1 User unknown
[17:42:36] <cpm> interesting point, but since i use clamd everywhere else, might as well use it there also
[17:42:52] <rob0> yeah, it's not hard to set up and it takes care of itself
[17:42:55] <cpm> too cold in Al ?
[17:43:03] <rob0> nono the pool is in AR
[17:43:10] <cpm> arrr!
[17:43:14] <cpm> where in Ar?
[17:43:28] <rob0> way up north ... 35.06 deg! (NE of Little Rock.)
[17:43:42] <cpm> cool,
[17:43:46] <cpm> Dont' tell anyone though
[17:43:49] <FordLT> ha! found the line in the .conf file -> @bypass_virus_checks_acl = qw( . );  # uncomment to DISABLE anti-virus code
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[17:44:47] <FordLT> thanks for just being here guys...
[17:44:57] <FordLT> I appreciate it
[17:45:03] <rob0> That's about all we're worth, unfortunately.
[17:45:27] <rob0> <==< /dev/irc/bum
[17:45:28] * cpm is worth less than rob0
[17:45:35] <kokoko1> lol
[17:45:40] <FordLT> so is clamav a free scanner?
[17:46:07] <kokoko1> http://www.clamav.net/
[17:46:23] <cpm> no, it's an engine, amavis is a scanner
[17:47:12] <rob0> Captain, scanners detect a Klingon warship on the starboard bow.
[17:48:04] <rob0> Cap'n, the engines canna take no more o' this!
[17:49:02] <kokoko1> I have configure amavis to add SPAM headers to email (if spam) now looking for a decent document to integrate maildrop with postfix for redirecting spams to v.users .spam directory :-S
[17:49:20] <kokoko1> sorta PITA this maildrop not finding anything..
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[17:51:32] <rob0> Cleaner and better is to have amavisd append +spam to the username, and tell maildrop to deliver those to the .spam IMAP folder.
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[17:54:54] <roe_> I'm trying to get per user .mailfilters working for maildrop but maildrop doesn't seem to be finding them.  Is there something special I have to do to enable per user filters?
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[18:38:01] <Menkaure> hello. i want to configure a autoresponder for my debian email server. now i try to do it with sieve. i put a sieve script into my /home/vmail/ directory. with name ".forward" but it seems not working. did i do something wrong? do i need additional packages? i installed the libsieve2-1 package.
[18:40:52] <Menkaure> before i did the test i restart postfix and courier-pop. but as you see i don't have knowledge about email at all. only found some information via google and tested it
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[18:44:57] <Menkaure> is sieve for imap only?
[18:46:47] <cpm> yup
[18:47:06] <cpm> is there something other than imap?
[18:47:22] <Menkaure> i use pop
[18:47:34] <cpm> ah,
[18:47:59] <cpm> how would any server side filtering work with pop? Which only reads out from the queue?
[18:48:27] <cpm> sieve will work with pop, but pop will only read out the inbox
[18:48:32] <hparker> cpm: http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=2823158&thread_type=voteresults&ok=1
[18:50:02] <Menkaure> i am getting crazy. i try to configure a simple autoresponder but i found no complete docu or howto for my configuration. i try procmail and maildrop before
[18:51:49] <cpm> http://www.postfix.org/addon.html
[18:52:09] <cpm> folks around here ain't be fans of autoresponders (because they are a horrible idea) so you won't get a lot of usable input
[18:52:35] <cpm> hparker, nice
[18:52:54] <roe_> I'm trying to get per user .mailfilters working for maildrop but maildrop doesn't seem to be finding them.  Is there something special I have to do to enable per user filters?
[18:54:08] <Menkaure> on postfix.org i found only these add ons like yaa! is it easy to install? i thought simple scripts are more easy but i think i am too dumb to get it working
[18:55:34] <cpm> roe_, why don't you ask on #courier   maildrop is a courier thing
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[18:55:55] <Menkaure> mmh ok thx. i will try
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[18:56:15] <roe_> is it? I thought it was one of those inbetween technologies, cause procmail isn't a courier thing is it?
[18:56:41] <roe_> but I'll take it there
[18:58:47] <psykidellic> hi...this is my first time with postfix (or any MTA in general), I am reading this docs...http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/#conf_mta ... i have a question , which is the preferred way of creating users....using a MySQL backend as given in the site or using OS based user accounts?
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[19:00:54] <pp> hello :-) .. anyone's using mailgraph? for some weird reasons it does not work here .. the rrd database is not created .. I also issued the perl script with debug messages . tho the appropiate function that creates the rrd database is for some reason not executed
[19:00:58] <pp> any suggestions?
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[20:15:51] <hax> i finally got sasl to work properly, but i still can't send mail... now it says: http://pastebin.ca/509872
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[20:34:50] <youngdev> hax it looks like postfix does not have permissions on either the mail queue or the delivery mailbox
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[20:35:18] <youngdev> what retrieval system are you using?
[20:35:26] <hax> youngdev: it should... virtual(8)
[20:35:39] <hax> youngdev: err wait, that can't be it... because when i send mail locally it works
[20:35:46] <youngdev> ok
[20:35:50] <hax> youngdev: i think it has something to do with not having a sender_map_login or something
[20:35:59] <youngdev> sorry I just came on this conversation
[20:36:32] <hax> oh, it's all good
[20:36:42] <hax> it just thinks my user can't send for some reason
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[20:50:54] <Menkaure> hello again. is there any solution for an autoresponder for debian, postfix, courier and mail accounts stored in mysql where i don't need to be a professor? i am working at this since 5 hours and tried procmail and sieve but i cannot get it to work. any howto i find with google is for different enviroment wich is different to my system. and i could not get it to work on mine
[20:51:33] <war> I have a question with Sender Address Verification, there is some spammer that is posing as poseller.com whatever that is and the sender address verification keeps trying to connect to their server: May 25 14:22:08 p34 postfix/smtp[25583]: 9655EB08EE38: to=<eBay at poseller dot com>, relay=none, delay=30, delays=0/0.03/30/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=undeliverable (connect to poseller.com[205.178.189.131]: Connection timed out) <- is there a way to make it so if it
[20:51:33] <war> keeps trying this say more than 5 times abort and reject the e-mail?
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[20:56:01] <tuxcrafter> hi guys
[20:56:03] <tuxcrafter> i need some help
[20:56:04] <rob0> war: see verify(8) and the address verification README. My guess: probably not, not without a custom policy daemon.
[20:56:19] <tuxcrafter> i got two websites in my /var/www
[20:56:32] <war> rob0: ah damn
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[20:56:37] <tuxcrafter> i want mail.example.com direct to one of them
[20:56:40] <tuxcrafter> how do i do this
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[20:56:50] <caravena> Hello! -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22469/
[20:56:53] <rob0> Websites? This channel is for Postfix.
[20:56:55] <tuxcrafter> how do i setup my virtal hosts
[20:56:56] <caravena> Problem of postfix?
[20:57:04] * hparker scratches head, sends an iGasm to rob0
[20:57:24] <caravena> Problem with configuration of postfix or dns?
[20:57:35] <Dominian> tuxcrafter: virtual hosts would be apache
[20:57:37] <hparker> Postfix, it's not just for email anymore!
[20:57:43] <Dominian> for redirecting web traffic
[20:57:47] <tuxcrafter> i was just wondering if you guys would no a good tutoral
[20:57:55] <tuxcrafter> else I will ask on apache
[20:57:59] <hparker> httpd.apache.org
[20:58:19] <tuxcrafter> hparker: i have been reading on the apache docs for 1 hour now
[20:58:20] <rob0> caravena, both. Your $myhostname should always resolve in DNS.
[20:58:21] <tuxcrafter> know
[20:58:39] <rob0> s/both/either/
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[20:59:20] <rob0> (Either add a DNS record for your $myhostname or change $myhostname to a valid DNS name.)
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[21:00:59] <bzanelato> hi..any1 can help me on a policy question ?
[21:01:42] <rob0> smtpd_recipient_restrictions = reject # no spam!
[21:01:56] <bzanelato> i try the change a message limite to a exeception account,
[21:02:21] <bzanelato> i try install the apolicyd on FreeBSD ..but..dont work
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[21:05:11] <phar0z> wtf I'm getting the  Relay access denied error again, I thought it was fixed for a long time after inserting local_recipient_maps = in my main.cf file
[21:05:50] <youngdev> how do you clear the mailq of all emails to a certain person???
[21:06:02] <rob0> What? Absolutely not. Unsetting local_recipient_maps will not fix "Relay access denied."
[21:06:11] <youngdev> I have not set up my aliases yet and my mailq is filled with mail to root
[21:07:15] <rob0> youngdev: mailq(1) and some scripting. Or get Ralf Hildebrandt's delete-from-queue script.
[21:07:31] <phar0z> hm
[21:07:33] <rob0> (mailq and postsuper(1))
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[21:07:49] <phar0z> how can I fix the relay acces denied error then?
[21:08:10] <rob0> !mynetworks
[21:08:11] <knoba> rob0: 'mynetworks' : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The list of "trusted" SMTP clients that can relay email.
[21:08:18] <rob0> !basic
[21:08:19] <knoba> rob0: 'basic' : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[21:08:19] <sepski> phar0z, i do it with smtp auth
[21:08:26] <rob0> !sasl
[21:08:26] <knoba> rob0: 'sasl' : short for "Simple Authentication and Security Layer". It is provided by the cyrus mail server to enable the "SMTP AUTH" feature. Learn more at: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/sasl/
[21:09:31] <phar0z> mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8, 192.168.0.104
[21:09:59] <youngdev> how do I set up aliases for postfix
[21:10:12] <rob0> BTW, unsetting local_recipient_maps was a bad idea.
[21:10:17] <youngdev> I need to dump all the root at domain dot com to /dev/null
[21:10:35] <hparker> youngdev: Why?
[21:10:49] <youngdev> cause I don't need to see it and no one is checking it
[21:10:54] <hparker> Those are usually kinda important emails
[21:11:02] <youngdev> yeah so Iam told
[21:11:07] <hparker> lol
[21:11:35] <hparker> When your system has a problem, it sends email.. Only way it can tell you.. Might consider reading them
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[21:12:17] <youngdev> welll I know the system isn't working right now
[21:12:32] <hparker> It probably warned you about it in email :P
[21:12:33] <caravena> rob0, 0 -> info in DNS -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22475/
[21:12:39] <youngdev> but in the mean time I do not want to wade through hundreds of emails to find the one I am testing
[21:13:04] <caravena> rob0, reboot services. and message ...
[21:13:06] <rob0> Some distros are set up such that root gets a lot of useless cron output.
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[21:14:16] <phar0z> well I've put my main.cf file online: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22476/
[21:14:23] <rob0> andromeda.server.cl -> NXDOMAIN
[21:16:07] <youngdev> how do you setup aliases for virtual domains?
[21:17:19] <sepski> youngdev, i use virtual_alias_maps
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[21:18:32] <CSantana> Hi people, (sorry my english) mine postfix are accepting e-mails from invalid domains and worse is that it are rewriting the invalid domain as being my domain, somebody has some idea of what it can be?
[21:18:56] <rob0> !debug
[21:18:57] <knoba> rob0: 'debug' : http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html : a good starting point for how to deal with problems and to report information to those who might help. Post your information in a pastebin such as http://pastebin.ca/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ .
[21:19:15] <caravena> rob0, andromeda.server.cl NXDOMAIN IP.SERVER ???
[21:19:18] <rob0> CSantana: pastebin "postconf -n" and logs of this happening.
[21:19:30] <rob0> caravena: ??
[21:19:57] <caravena> rob0, add in file zone: andromeda.server.cl -> NXDOMAIN -> IP.SERVER ???
[21:22:16] <rob0> caravena, NXDOMAIN means "no such name record found". It's a positive response from a nameserver saying the name does not exist. Debug your DNS.
[21:22:39] <phar0z> ah I've fixed my problem
[21:22:56] <rob0> To do that you'll need to learn some DNS basics (and terms like NXDOMAIN.)
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[21:26:25] <Petaris> hello
[21:26:43] <Petaris> Does anyone here use policyd-weight?
[21:27:00] <Petaris> I am curious if there is a way to white-list an address
[21:28:05] <rob0> Whitelist a sender address, or recipient? Either one can be done using check_$FOO_access lookups in Postfix.
[21:28:13] <Petaris> a sender
[21:28:43] <rob0> I hope you understand that sender addresses are easily and routinely forged by spammers.
[21:29:31] <Petaris> yeah, unfortunately the law firm the school district uses got its self placed on a blacklist :/
[21:30:55] <rob0> So why not do it right, and use check_client_access to whitelist the law firm's IP address?
[21:31:50] <Petaris> in the postfix config file?
[21:32:10] <Petaris> master.cf?
[21:32:41] <rob0> See SMTPD_ACCESS_README.html , access.5.html , and:
[21:32:44] <rob0> !cheatsheet
[21:32:45] <knoba> rob0: 'cheatsheet' : http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt : A HOWTO for pre-DATA spam control.
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[21:33:55] <Petaris> rob0: I will take a look, thanks
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[21:44:44] <rob0> afk
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[21:48:59] <innu> its really weird. Suddenly i can't receive any mails. No log report in mail.log file. Any ideas? although i can check my mails and i can send mails...
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[21:58:10] <Petaris> ?
[21:58:21] <Petaris> innu: Can you send your self a mail?
[21:58:30] <Petaris> or is it just mail from other domains?
[21:58:31] <innu> yes actually
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[21:58:43] <Petaris> so your mail server is talking
[21:58:52] <Petaris> are you using spam filtering?
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[21:59:05] <innu> no, spam filters are all turned off.
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[21:59:26] <Petaris> on that same box or a seperate box?
[21:59:45] <innu> Same box.
[22:00:02] <Petaris> hrm
[22:00:22] <Petaris> and you are allowing the traffic through your firewall right?
[22:00:40] <innu> yes. I have tried even turning firewall off.
[22:00:45] <Petaris> ACCEPT net dmz smtp or whatever
[22:00:49] <Petaris> hrm
[22:01:12] <innu> most weird is that there isn't anything of receiving mail in mail.log
[22:01:32] <Petaris> are your mx records correct?
[22:01:49] <innu> they should be
[22:01:57] <Petaris> you might want to verify that
[22:02:17] <Petaris> just to eliminate it
[22:02:17] <innu> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_SysCP just looked all confs over.
[22:02:56] <innu> Actually, yesterday receiving was working fine. Today i got work sending mails, and now i saw that receiving is broken
[22:02:57] <hax> http://pastebin.ca/510179 <-- could someone suggest why i might be getting this error?
[22:03:32] <Petaris> innu: I have had days like that
[22:04:21] <Petaris> innu: do you usually have much traffic?
[22:04:35] <innu> no
[22:04:38] <Petaris> maybe no one is sending you any email
[22:05:03] <Petaris> have you tried sending from gmail/hotmail/yahoo to see if you can get it?
[22:05:46] <innu> im trying to send email to myself. I was just waiting for one activation and noticed that mail dosen't show up, and i started looking. Sended couple mails from other mail account and none of them showed.
[22:07:37] <innu> tried to send mail via gmail now. No message...
[22:07:52] <Petaris> hrm
[22:08:15] <Petaris> well I am afraid I have to go now so I can continue to help you troubleshoot
[22:08:30] <Petaris> but I would check that DNS and MX records are all ok
[22:09:14] <Petaris> and if you are using mysql or postgre you might want to check them
[22:09:21] <Petaris> also try restarting postfix
[22:09:28] <Petaris> never hurts to try
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[22:10:19] <Petaris> later
[22:10:21] <innu> even tried to restart hole server :). mysql records should be all ok. twice checked them...
[22:10:32] <Petaris> ahh
[22:10:51] <Petaris> do you have a greymilter running?
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[22:11:12] <innu> i dont think so. i dont know even what it is :P.
[22:11:15] <Petaris> or some rule in your master.conf that is still killing spam?
[22:11:26] <Petaris> ahh, well then you probably don't have it
[22:11:29] <Petaris> ;)
[22:11:40] <Petaris> seriously have to go now
[22:11:43] <Petaris> later all
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[22:16:54] <hax> aha, i found my problem
[22:17:17] <hax> "smtpd_sender_restrictions = reject_sender_login_mismatch" has functionality that i want... but i don't know how to make it work with sasl
[22:17:50] <hax> pretty much, if you auth with the right user/realm, you should be able to send mail from that address and only that address
[22:17:54] <hax> but it doesn't seem like there's any easy to way to do that
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[22:20:52] <caravena> rob0, Thanks for you help : -)
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[22:21:32] <caravena> caravena happy. Postfix Rock
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[22:24:06] <hax> rob0: got any thoughts for me?
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[22:31:41] <youngdev> what does this error in the mailq mean? delivery temporarily suspended: lost connection with 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1] while sending RCPT TO
[22:35:03] <ek> youngdev: Are you using something like Amavisd?
[22:42:46] <youngdev> yeah
[22:43:16] <youngdev> I cleared the mailq and re-emailed the user now the mailq says this "Error in processing, id=18017-01, virus_scan FAILED: virus_scan: NO VIRUS SCANNERS AVAILABLE"
[22:43:26] <youngdev> any ideas
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[23:08:48] <smesjz> how can I instruct Postfix to check if the a rewritten address exists. if sendmail submits (invoked by www-data for example) a mail for 'joe' it is rewritten to 'joe at domain dot tld'. However joe at domain dot tld is not checked in the Virtual mailbox table. It is checked when the mail originates from a non-local mailserver. However, I dont want to break compatibility with cron mails etc
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[23:59:53] <ek> youngdev: Sure. Amavisd isn't finding any scanners. Do you have any installed?





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