[00:00:21] <hparker> Setup valid recipients on the MX server and then use transports to forward to the secondary server
[00:03:31] <cos> hmm.  but transports happens right after trivial rewrite.
[00:03:45] <cos> I want entries in the virtual table to override relaying
[00:04:33] <hparker> Virtual can forward
[00:04:54] <cos> what do you mean?
[00:05:15] <cos> if transports happens before virtual, won't it relay an address even if there's an entry for that address in the virtual table?
[00:05:33] <hparker> I have on server that's all virtual in sql, I setup forwards in it (It uses postfixadmin)
[00:07:31] <cos> that sounds entirely out of context.  does it relate to my question?   *very confused*
[00:08:06] <hparker> You want to forward and validate, I do that, sounds related
[00:08:22] <cos> I don't understand, then.
[00:08:30] <hparker> Then again, maybe not.... Maybe I've had more bourbon then I thought
[00:09:21] <cos> my question is, how do I set up such that some addressed relay, and others do not, for a particular domain?  and, in particular, I want to make sure that entries in the virtual table always take effect, regardless of what's in the transport table
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[00:09:48] <hparker> I do that in sql with postfixadmin
[00:10:18] <cos> I guess I could add "without having to install MySQL on the mail server" :)
[00:10:21] <hparker> It does the lookup and decides if it should deliver locally or forward
[00:10:26] <hparker> hehehehe
[00:10:39] <cos> it's a working mail server and I don't want to totally change its config
[00:10:51] <cos> or change anything about any of the other domains it handles
[00:10:53] <hparker> Pretty sure it can be done with text files, though I've not down it
[00:10:59] <hparker> s/down/done
[00:13:02] <tuxcrafte1> Signum: i found a proplem
[00:13:07] <tuxcrafte1> problem
[00:13:19] <tuxcrafte1> source VARCHAR(20) NOT NULL,
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[00:13:36] <tuxcrafte1> but you need a NULL to create a source of @domain
[00:14:19] <tuxcrafte1> else jou get @@domain
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[00:14:51] <Signum> tuxcrafte1: I hate it when you find problems. :)
[00:15:20] <tuxcrafte1> hmm strange i can pupulate it with a NULL
[00:15:26] <tuxcrafte1> (5, 2, 2, NULL, 'jelle at lavendel dot tk'),
[00:15:29] <tuxcrafte1> and it works
[00:15:35] <tuxcrafte1> @lavendel.tk
[00:15:42] <Signum> although you set it to "NOT NULL"?
[00:15:54] <tuxcrafte1> yes
[00:16:04] <tuxcrafte1> can i recheck that
[00:16:17] <Signum> mysql is sick
[00:16:17] <tuxcrafte1> do you know how
[00:16:44] <Signum> insert another row
[00:16:48] <tuxcrafte1> do you write the bug report :-P
[00:17:26] <Signum> I've given up on mysql already. :)
[00:17:31] <tuxcrafte1> or will NULL give a 0
[00:17:54] <Signum> no. NULL is really an empty cell.
[00:18:22] <tuxcrafte1> postmap -q @lavendel.tk mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual-alias-maps.cf
[00:18:22] <tuxcrafte1> jelle at lavendel dot tk
[00:18:24] <tuxcrafte1> but
[00:18:38] <tuxcrafte1>  postmap -q tadsf at lavendel dot tk mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual-alias-maps.cf
[00:18:38] <tuxcrafte1> returns nothing
[00:19:08] <tuxcrafte1> and that is locical seen the used query
[00:19:15] <tuxcrafte1> logical
[00:20:20] <tuxcrafte1> never mind man virtual
[00:20:33] <tuxcrafte1> says it will look for @lavendel.tk
[00:20:43] <tuxcrafte1> so it works
[00:21:00] <tuxcrafte1> but it should not have workt with the NOT NULL :-D
[00:21:39] <Signum> indeed not.
[00:21:47] <Signum> I'm giving up for today. More tomorrow.
[00:22:14] <tuxcrafte1> Signum: btw i got this now
[00:22:16] <tuxcrafte1> virtual_aliases (id, domain_id, user_id, source, destination)
[00:22:23] <tuxcrafte1> mysql> SELECT * FROM view_aliases;
[00:22:23] <tuxcrafte1> +----------------------+-------------------+-------------------+
[00:22:23] <tuxcrafte1> | email                | owner             | destination       |
[00:22:23] <tuxcrafte1> +----------------------+-------------------+-------------------+
[00:22:23] <tuxcrafte1> | john at example dot com     | john at example dot com  | john at gmail dot com    |
[00:22:35] <tuxcrafte1> it will be a nice view
[00:22:40] <tuxcrafte1> and it works
[00:22:50] <tuxcrafte1> and you dont need the email2email anymore
[00:22:57] <tuxcrafte1> so it is more logical
[00:23:14] <tuxcrafte1> + more safety
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[00:23:58] <Infinitux> hello.
[00:24:25] <Infinitux> I'm wondering, how I can configure postfix so that it sends mail on a different port, but so that it will still arrive at any email.
[00:24:40] <Infinitux> I am wondering, because I want to/
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[00:24:52] <tuxcrafte1> man postfix
[00:25:07] <tuxcrafte1> man postconf
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[00:29:52] <Infinitux> Ok, sorry. Got disconnected.
[00:30:23] <Infinitux> Allright. So what I'm wondering, is can I change the port that postfix both sends and recieves on, while still allowing the proper transfer of emails to remote email addresses?
[00:31:19] <Infinitux> Anybody know?
[00:32:40] <Infinitux> uh?
[00:34:09] <Infinitux> hello?
[00:35:07] <Infinitux> somebody there?
[00:35:07] <tuxcrafte1> Signum: the NULL i think mysql generates a warning but continues
[00:35:18] <Infinitux> tuxcrafte1: hey, can you help me?
[00:35:22] <war> What's the best way to allow e-mail forwarding from my regular provider, e.g., rr.com for example but NOT whitelist rr.com for spam checks/etc?
[00:35:25] <tuxcrafte1> Infinitux: sorry i dont know
[00:35:36] <tuxcrafte1> but you can try the manuals
[00:35:38] <tuxcrafte1> for postconf
[00:35:43] <Infinitux> ok, well i'll see what i can do.
[00:36:34] <Infinitux> there's nothing in that manual page.
[00:36:37] <Infinitux> uh.
[00:36:47] <Infinitux> it has a section for chaging the lmtp port
[00:36:55] <Infinitux> but uh, not smtp
[00:37:17] <Infinitux> it would be so nice to be able to configure this and have it working.
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[00:37:22] <Infinitux> my isp blocks my mail server port.
[00:37:37] <Infinitux> chatran: can you help me?
[00:39:53] <Infinitux> uh, when i tryed to email myself at root@localhost, i got a pretty funny error message
[00:40:27] <Infinitux> 221 Error: I can break rules, too. Goodbye.
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[00:42:13] <Infinitux> Doh. I don't know anything about postfix.
[00:42:17] * Infinitux is frustrated
[00:42:42] <Infinitux> all freaking day, trying to configure a mail server around the isp blocked port 25
[00:42:52] <Infinitux> i have postfix running on localhost
[00:44:00] <Infinitux> and i can connect to the server with telnet localhost 25
[00:44:08] <Infinitux> but weird stuff is going on.
[00:44:57] <Infinitux> I need HELP!
[00:45:00] <Infinitux> !help
[00:45:00] <knoba> Infinitux: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
[00:45:14] <Infinitux> !help port 25
[00:45:15] <knoba> Infinitux: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
[00:45:20] <Infinitux> !usage
[00:45:21] <knoba> Infinitux: Error: "usage" is not a valid command.
[00:45:30] <Infinitux> !help port
[00:45:30] <knoba> Infinitux: Error: There is no command port.
[00:45:37] <Infinitux> doh!
[00:45:39] <Infinitux> !doh
[00:45:40] <knoba> Infinitux: Error: "doh" is not a valid command.
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[00:51:46] <tuxcrafte1> ! port
[00:51:47] <knoba> tuxcrafte1: Error: "port" is not a valid command.
[00:52:00] <tuxcrafte1> ! postconf
[00:52:01] <knoba> tuxcrafte1: 'postconf' : the configuration management tool for postfix. See man postconf for more information.
[00:52:09] <tuxcrafte1> ! postfix
[00:52:10] <knoba> tuxcrafte1: 'postfix' : The Postfix MTA from http://www.postfix.org/. If you have no idea what Postfix is then you have probably chosen the wrong channel. :)
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[00:54:48] <demortes> Hey all, I have a question. I keep getting mail delivered locally when I'm using an external mail server... how do I force it to go external?
[00:58:52] <cos> what do you mean by "using an external mail server" ?
[01:02:15] <demortes> Well, I'm using google apps for the two domains
[01:02:38] <demortes> so when a website hosted on my box sends mail, it delivers it to the local user, instead of the gmail account
[01:03:24] <tuxcrafte1> bye guys see you over 10 hours
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[01:05:22] <demortes> any ideas? I just want to know where the file is that postfix looks for aliases, so to speak. Like Malcolm at fireflythemud dot com maps to web2_malcolm on the server itself.
[01:16:17] <cos> your question is too vague for me to know whether the answers I'd give you are right.  but, is this a server you control and administer?  if so, read the configuration guides at postfix.org
[01:16:23] <rob0> demortes: that all depends on how you set it up. Sounds like maybe $mydestination includes domains which it should not.
[01:16:32] <cos> or for a quick fix, the files you're looking for are probably in /etc/postfix
[01:16:36] <rob0> !basic
[01:16:37] <knoba> rob0: 'basic' : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[01:17:30] <demortes> thanks, found it
[01:17:31] <cos> knoba: did you see my earlier question?
[01:17:32] <rob0> The second question sounds like possibly virtual_alias_maps.
[01:17:41] <demortes> virtusertable
[01:17:44] <cos> err, I meant rob0
[01:18:00] <demortes> now my question is, what's the command to change virtusertable to virtusertable.db in a postfix readable form?
[01:18:12] <cos> usually postmap
[01:18:15] <demortes> Thank you
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[01:19:23] <rob0> (scrolled up) Maybe per-user transport_maps ?
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[01:23:15] <n4zgul> hello, someone can help me with postfix relay(smtp on gmail)?
[01:23:48] <demortes> edit /etc/postfix/master.cf to point the variable relayhost to your smtp server
[01:24:05] <demortes> if master.cf isn't there, type locate master.cf
[01:25:05] <n4zgul> there is a way of using the relay without my computer beeing a smtp server?
[01:25:29] <VSpike> I'm using spamassassin as a content filter.  Is there any make it respect the per-user config files in ~/.spamassassin?  AFAICT I can pass it a username and it will do the right thing, so I could try to extract it from the email address, but that will only be valid for real users, not aliases.  Is there any sensible way to do this, or am I barking up the wrong tree?
[01:25:32] <demortes> If you're computer isn't an SMTP server, you wont have postfix installed, thus you're in the wrong room :)
[01:25:50] <n4zgul> oh
[01:25:53] <n4zgul> x . x
[01:25:58] <n4zgul> im new in linux
[01:26:05] <demortes> we all gotta start somewhere
[01:26:15] <demortes> I suggest checking out the forums for your distro
[01:26:37] <n4zgul> and i am trying to enable php mail() function, i ve tried sendmail, and now postfix lol
[01:26:47] <n4zgul> anyway, thanks man
[01:26:50] <demortes> well, you can work around it with postfix
[01:26:59] <demortes> relay all outgoing mail to your ISP's SMTP server.
[01:27:16] <demortes> if your computer isn't being pointed to as an SMTP server, and the ports are blocked, you shouldn't receive any
[01:27:42] <n4zgul> hm
[01:27:45] <n4zgul> understood
[01:28:28] <n4zgul> i will find out in php forums, thanks
[01:28:35] <VSpike> Running as a content filter, it's being called with user "spamd" always.  I guess I could call it at the delivery stage, e.g. from maildrop.  I'm just not sure what approach makes the most sense.  It's just a local setup, two users.
[01:29:12] <demortes> Hey, I love you guys. lol. You didn't help much, but just delayed me giving up just that much more so I could find the real problem :P
[01:29:22] <VSpike> :)
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[01:29:41] <VSpike> Sounds like IRC help at its best heh
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[01:33:07] <rob0> VSpike: Wrong tree bark. In fact there's little point to per-user controls except perhaps for thresholds. Most spam can be blocked efficiently and safely without content filtering, anyway.
[01:33:12] <rob0> !cheatsheet
[01:33:13] <knoba> rob0: 'cheatsheet' : http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt : A HOWTO for pre-DATA spam control.
[01:34:03] <rob0> With only 2 users, what you want could be done through .forward files and procmail. But that's ugly.
[01:34:25] <rob0> (not sure that procmail would be needed.)
[01:34:43] <VSpike> I know I could call spamassassin directly from maildrop, which I'm already using
[01:35:25] <VSpike> rob0: I already have some of that stuff in postfix, but I still get spam through.  My problem is that spamassassin is giving me false positives, hence I wanted per-user whitelists
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[01:36:28] <rob0> Maybe I'm lucky, but I'm not getting much spam at all. Are you using zen?
[01:36:29] <VSpike> rob0: that does look a lot more comprehensive though :)
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[01:37:27] <VSpike> rob0: yes
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[01:54:28] <Godsey> is it possible to deliver a specific text message for a defer?
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[01:54:50] <Godsey> 450 4.3.2 <godsey at freenode dot irc>: Recipient address rejected: Try again later
[01:54:51] <VSpike> Thanks for that link rob0 ... I'll certainly implement as much of that as makes sense.  If my spam traffic falls right off, I can ditch spamassassin anyway
[01:55:03] <Godsey> I'd like to change Try again later to do not bypass mx
[01:56:29] <Godsey> or SMTP AUTH Required
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[02:11:28] <VSpike> rob0: A lot of that won't work for me because I'm not using my own domain, and I'm using fetchmail
[02:11:41] <VSpike> AFAICT, the bits I can use, I already have
[02:11:44] <rob0> oh definitely not.
[02:12:34] <rob0> There's no good spam solution that takes place after the MX. That's the only good place to deal with spam.
[02:14:27] <VSpike> I was wondering, if I set up my own domain and started to use that for mail, and then forwarded my existing address at other domains to addresses at my own domain, then would these tactics work with the forwarded mail?  I'd think not, because it would always be my ISP or mailhost's system doing the forwarding so again the mail would have effectively been accepted
[02:14:30] <VSpike> Is that right?
[02:17:09] <VSpike> I guess even greylisting would not work with that route for the same reason.
[02:17:22] <VSpike> This is what I've ended up with for main.cf btw : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21767/
[02:18:14] <rob0> You're right, it only works at the MX.
[02:19:50] <rob0> !virtual_maps
[02:19:51] <knoba> rob0: Error: "virtual_maps" is not a valid command.
[02:20:25] <rob0> virtual_maps is deprecated. See virtual_alias_maps and virtual_alias_domains.
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[08:17:29] <many> man
[08:17:58] <many> this is like the fifth time i report abuse to abuse at yahoo dot com and get a bounce from <fr-mail-abuse at cc dot yahoo-inc.com>
[08:21:38] <f3ew> oh dear
[08:22:57] <many> okay, lets piss postmaster at yahoo dot com off. :D
[08:23:34] * f3ew pokes someone I know at Y!
[08:23:50] <many> ah, cool :)
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[08:40:57] <krinns> hi all
[08:41:07] <krinns> any idea how i add
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[08:41:40] <krinns> disclamer
[08:41:45] <krinns> in all my emails
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[08:53:25] <f3ew> !altermime
[08:53:26] <knoba> f3ew: Error: "altermime" is not a valid command.
[08:53:29] <f3ew> !disclaimer
[08:53:29] <knoba> f3ew: 'disclaimer' : You want to add a disclaimer to every email because your boss wants you to do that? (a) That's legal bullshit. (b) http://www.pldaniels.com/altermime/ - or - http://www.paw.co.za/docs/howtos/postfix-altermime/postfix-altermime-howto-2.html
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[08:57:54] <edman007> how do i do i set up a noreply at mydomain dot com? i want to just delete emails to a few specific addresses (or noreply@anything would be even better), i'm using mysql to store all my addresses
[08:58:43] <Lap_64> !f3ew
[08:58:44] <knoba> Lap_64: Error: "f3ew" is not a valid command.
[08:58:54] <Lap_64> lols
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[09:01:20] <edman007> does anyone know how to setup a blackhole type address (standard noreply@something address), i've done some searching and can't find anything, are there tutorials for this? i would think its a common thing to do
[09:03:59] <sep> edman007, i think that's very uncommon. if the account dont exsist it will bounce back to sender, and that sounds cleaner then to drop everything
[09:05:11] <sep> edman007, other then that i suppose you could make a transport in master.cf that simply pipe the mail to /dev/null. but i think it's ugly.
[09:05:34] <sep> and then make a alias account that uses that transport or some such thing.
[09:05:49] <edman007> well i don't mind making the account, i just get a lot of stuff (mostly bounces) to that at a lot of different domains
[09:07:42] <f3ew> make that an alias
[09:07:49] <f3ew> and deliver to /dev/null
[09:07:53] <f3ew> or use DISCARD
[09:08:04] <f3ew> DISCARD works for all recipients of that message though
[09:09:47] <edman007> f3ew, ok, i'm going to look into that..
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[10:16:34] <possie> i'm creating a mailrelay server, which only sends e-mail and will not receive e-mail at all, however i heard that certain mailservers check if a "postmaster" adres exists at the sending server, anyone know about this? In my case this would fail because i'm only going to sent email from this mail relay and not receive any from the outside world
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[10:17:55] <Roobarb> possie: checking for the existance of "postmaster" is tricky - I wouldn't worry about it
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[10:23:51] <verwilst> hi guys!
[10:24:04] <verwilst> when i stop the database server for my mailserver, i get mails like this: http://nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=78804
[10:24:12] <verwilst> anybody knows why, and how to stop it?
[10:24:23] <verwilst> i guess it's some domain settings that's not quite right or something :)
[10:24:53] <lennard> don't stop the database? :)
[10:25:03] <verwilst> :p
[10:25:12] <verwilst> in a perfect world yeah ;)
[10:25:31] <lennard> ok, then, don't configure postfix to use it I guess
[10:25:41] <verwilst> euh, how? :)
[10:26:38] <lennard> by removing any references in the configfiles... but you should know that, since it isnt configured as such by default, so you mustvev done it :P
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[10:27:24] <verwilst> euh, i think it normally sends those to MAILERDAEMON at mydomain dot com, right?
[10:27:33] <verwilst> which normally end up locally where you never see em
[10:27:36] <ChrisW> hi guys, I appear to have managed to cock up dns relating to mail (dunno if that's just mx records or something else as well) for my domain, simplistix.co.uk, how should I start figuring out what's going on?
[10:31:04] <lennard> probably with host -t MX simplisitx.co.uk
[10:31:09] <lennard> but without the typos
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[10:42:05] <ChrisW> hmm, it's werid, it seems like on some boxes I get no records back
[10:42:31] <ChrisW> on others I get what I'd expect, and on one (so far) I get "!!! simplistix.co.uk MX host mail.chrisw.info is not canonical"... what does that mean?
[10:42:53] <f3ew> oooh, a CNAME?
[10:43:09] <lennard> ah, a CNAME, I hadnt even noticed that
[10:43:17] <ChrisW> ?
[10:43:41] <lennard> you have mail.chrisw.info as one nof your mx-records, but it is a CNAME
[10:43:49] <lennard> MX-records should not be CNAMEs :)
[10:44:07] <ChrisW> *nods* although that's never caused me problems before
[10:44:22] <ChrisW> (and how come some boxes DON'T complain about it being a CNAME?)
[10:46:35] <ChrisW> (and, more importantly, how come some boxes are getting NO mx records at all :-S)
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[10:57:14] <f3ew> you have a broken DNS config
[10:57:33] <ChrisW> :-S
[10:57:56] <ChrisW> how come it works from some boxes, enen though they're using thenew nameservers?
[10:59:27] <lennard> the others are probably using broken nameserver, or their dnses have a cache which needs to timeout, or you didn't update the serial correctly and the new 'good' ones are only being good by accident
[11:00:24] <ChrisW> not sure what you mean?
[11:02:20] <many> probably caches, resolves fine for me and from authoritive nameservers
[11:06:53] <ChrisW> weird, how could the caches end up caching "nothing"?
[11:08:51] <many> a negative cache?
[11:11:11] <ChrisW> ?!
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[11:16:07] <possie> Roobarb, sorry for the late reaction, okay i can forget the "postmaster" check, i was also wondering how one would check for the existinance of "postmaster" adres? VERIFY ?
[11:16:54] <many> verify? why's that necessary? just emulate an smtp session and youll see wether the mails gets accepted or not
[11:17:54] <Roobarb> they may get accepted anyway....
[11:18:05] <Roobarb> qmail does, and then bounces the message
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[11:18:38] <Roobarb> so although Postfix "does the right thing" for local users, its no guarantee anyone else does and hence isn't something you should really rely on.
[11:19:06] <Roobarb> you can only guarantee that the target address is valid, if you get a response from it
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[11:49:32] <accela> hi guys...yesterday my postfix server crashed with the following error: "postfix/smtpd[84978]: fatal: connect #11 to subsystem public/cleanup: Connection refused" does anybody know what caused this error. i didn't find any good explanation on the net
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[11:51:59] <f3ew> accela, there should be a warning just before that
[11:55:02] <accela> f3ew: yes, the same message, but with s/fatal/warning/ , s/11/10/
[11:55:16] <accela> postfix/smtpd[84978]: warning: connect #10 to subsystem public/cleanup: Connection refused
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[12:03:22] <f3ew> before that?
[12:07:32] <accela> f3ew: i've got: "warning: connect to private/anvil: Connection refused"
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[12:09:29] <Godsey> is tehre any way to return my text in a 4xx response to client?
[12:09:56] <Roobarb> accela: that sounds like parts of postfix have crashed
[12:10:05] <Roobarb> Godsey: change the code
[12:10:14] <Godsey> Roobarb: within the config? :)
[12:11:02] <Godsey> humm, I guess I can:
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[12:11:24] <Godsey> cidr:blah and blah can be 0.0.0.0/0 432 SMTP AUTH REQUIRED
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[12:18:17] <Lap_64> Godsey, hehe
[12:18:37] <Godsey> got it :) cidr didn't work
[12:18:47] <Godsey> pcre:/..defer as /.*/ 450 blah does :)
[12:20:18] <Godsey> 450 4.3.2 <godsey at freenode dot irc>: Recipient address rejected: SMTP AUTH REQUIRED FOR SENDER
[12:21:21] <Roobarb> Godsey: won't you get that even if you're auth'd ?
[12:21:36] <Godsey> no why?
[12:21:39] <Godsey> smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_sasl_authenticated cidr:/usr/local/etc/postfix/mx_hosts reject_unlisted_recipient reject_unauth_destination reject_unlisted_r
[12:21:42] <Godsey> ecipient pcre:/usr/local/etc/postfix/defer
[12:21:47] <Roobarb> oh I see
[12:22:05] <Roobarb> neat
[12:22:46] <Godsey> I'm used to exim and it's extensable acls, I'm just trying to wrap my head around how to do it all in postfix now :)
[12:23:20] <Godsey> I think I need to move the normal rejects_ up front
[12:23:39] <Godsey> since I don't want to accept any invalid local addresses even from authenticated users
[12:23:43] <Roobarb> yes
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[12:25:24] <Godsey> and now how to find allow mail from <> to any and I'm set :)
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[12:26:28] <kosh[0]> hi, is it possible to use wildcards inside the /etc/postfix/virtual configuration?
[12:26:52] <kosh[0]> I would like to add two catch all's, apply-* at domain dot com and respond-* at domain dot com and ignore all others
[12:27:06] <kosh[0]> so at least I can cut down my spam to only two address types, then spam filter those instead
[12:27:31] <kosh[0]> I am writing a email bounce script, which can read an email, reformat with the correct, hidden email address and bounce it back out to the proper recipient
[12:28:09] <Godsey> kosh[0]: I'm not an expert but I'm guessing you could write a pcre table to handle those 2
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[12:28:31] <kosh[0]> hmm, pcre table huh (googles)
[12:29:08] <Godsey> /respond-.*@domain/ kosh@irc
[12:29:27] <kosh[0]> hmmm, I don't really want to use an sql table if I can help it (from a 10 second glance, I see sql)
[12:29:43] <Godsey> maybe spend more than 10 seconds
[12:29:46] <kosh[0]> :D
[12:30:44] <kosh[0]> incidentally, that suggestion keeps the mail giving me a msg with undelivered mail returned to sender
[12:31:03] <kosh[0]> the email was apply-0123456789 at blackstar dot localdomain (which is my local test email server)
[12:32:23] <kosh[0]> ah wait, does it have to be user@domain ?
[12:32:28] <kosh[0]> or can it just be user ?
[12:32:37] <kosh[0]> cause I didn't put kosh@irc, just kosh
[12:32:52] <Godsey> probably ok as long as postfix already knows what to do w/ kosh
[12:33:15] <kosh[0]> yeah, if I just have the wildcard " at blackstar dot localdomain chris" it forwards all the mail correctly
[12:33:38] <kosh[0]> I was just wanting ONLY addresses which start with either "apply" or "respond" to get processes into the inbox
[12:34:00] <Godsey> give it a try I guess :)
[12:34:06] <kosh[0]> I have done
[12:34:28] <kosh[0]> same, undelivered mail returned to sender
[12:34:48] <kosh[0]> so for some reason, it's not recognising the pcre, or it's misinterpreting it
[12:34:54] <Godsey> what did you put in main.cf?
[12:35:02] <Godsey> and do you have pcre enabled in postfix?
[12:35:19] <kosh[0]> ahhh, bollocks, no, I didn't think I had to enable it
[12:35:22] <kosh[0]> ok, wait
[12:38:47] <kosh[0]> hmm, postconf | grep "pcre" says nothing
[12:40:10] <Godsey> there may be a better way but this is how I check:
[12:40:11] <Godsey> ldd /usr/local/sbin/postfix
[12:40:11] <Godsey> /usr/local/sbin/postfix: libpcre.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libpcre.so.0 (0x28089000)
[12:41:19] <kosh[0]> yup, I got that, I have libpcre.so.0 => /lib/libpcre.so.0 (0x0013f000)
[12:41:32] <kosh[0]> so do I need anything in main.cf to enable pcre ?
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[12:42:13] <kosh[0]> to main.cf I added virtual_alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/virtual
[12:42:22] <kosh[0]> and inside virtual, I have those lines above
[12:42:31] <Godsey> it's not a hash, it's pcre:
[12:42:39] <kosh[0]> but I cannot find anything in google on how to enable pcre, so I'm assuming if it's compiled in, it's there
[12:42:46] <kosh[0]> ah ok, you have to specify it like that, ok
[12:43:22] <kosh[0]> ahhh ok, I get it now
[12:43:31] <kosh[0]> hash and pcre are saying the types of data inside the file
[12:43:35] <Godsey> yes
[12:43:40] <kosh[0]> hmm, thanks!
[12:44:31] <Godsey> you can make it even better if you know the format or length of the string following apply-
[12:45:05] <kosh[0]> yeah, actually, that would be a nice feature, you can just use normal pcre to get it
[12:45:09] <kosh[0]> cool man, thanks a lot!
[12:45:39] <Godsey> ya :) /apply-\d{10,10}@/ probably
[12:45:44] <Godsey> regex rusty sorry :)
[12:46:00] <kosh[0]> ah ok, thanks, I was im'ing our resident regex expert
[12:46:09] <kosh[0]> cheers ears!
[12:49:31] <kosh[0]> awesome! ok, I'm outta here, scripts to write and things to do, thanks Godsey, you're a star
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[13:44:30] <babo> I have an issue where if I send an email to my support at domain dot com address from my mailserver, then it'll be relayed successfully to my gmail account. However if I try to contact support at domain dot com from gmail or from yahoo. Then there is no trace of the message whatsoever. Nothing in the maillog, nothing in my gmail account, and nothing in my virtual host. Even gmail and yahoo don't register the message as being unsent ...
[13:49:24] <f3ew> What does your MX record say?\
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[14:07:19] <coolbeans> Hi all.  Is there a way to rewrite globally a "from" address in postfix?  It seems to naturally pick up the fqdn and I need it to send all mail from a specific address.
[14:15:38] <f3ew> set that in the MUA
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[14:29:20] <theblackbox> anyone use postfix admin? I'm getting an internal server error and it tells me more info is available in the server error log, where exactly does it mean?
[14:30:10] <f3ew> that's an Apache issue
[14:30:19] <theblackbox> yeah ;) just found it now
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[15:08:12] <coolbeans> Hi all.  Is there a way to rewrite globally a "from" address in postfix?  It seems to naturally pick up the fqdn and I need it to send all mail from a specific address.
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[15:16:51] <cpm> set that in the MUA
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[15:41:15] <Turt|e> hi, i constanly get service "smtp" has reached its process limit "45" in my log, but this i because some clients are hugging that limit, i dont get mail that many mails in my milter, i lowered the init timeout and the xfer timeout to 30 and 60 sec. What could more be done to get rid of this problem ?
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[15:47:10] <Alex> Hey dudes - I've just set up greylisting and it's working great, but one of the severs that I get large volum,es for has broken mail that doesn't retry. Is there like, a way to whitelist certain hosts?
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[16:00:12] <Dominian> what greylist service are you using?
[16:05:26] <rob0> Put a check_client_access lookup before the check_policy_service restriction.
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[16:08:21] <rob0> Turt|e, depends why the limit is being reached.
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[16:08:58] <Turt|e> rob0: can i check somehow ?
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[16:09:49] <Comete> hi
[16:11:10] <Comete> i have a postfix gateway on my dmz and i would like that the mails to be relayed to 2 different internals SMTP servers, is it possible ?
[16:12:08] <Comete> so my users could get the same mail in 2 different mailboxes...
[16:14:00] <UQlev> Comete: normally it is not allowed inward traffic from DMZ to LAN
[16:14:37] <UQlev> Comete: that is why DMZ is being made for
[16:15:30] <Comete> UQlev: sorry but i think that storing mails on a server on the DMZ is more insecure
[16:15:51] <Dominian> argh.. I think I just ended up on the phone with the stupidiest person in history
[16:16:08] <UQlev> nope, nothing wrong with storing on server in DMZ
[16:16:10] <Comete> Dominian: not sure :)
[16:17:24] <Comete> UQlev: so do you consider that it is not dangerous if your server on the DMZ is hacked ?
[16:17:48] <rob0> Wow Dominian, ask him what his plans for Iraq are. ;)
[16:18:07] <Comete> anyway my question
[16:18:31] <Comete> wasn't if it's a good idea or not
[16:19:30] <UQlev> Comete: re your questions, it is possible but it is not *good* idea
[16:20:21] <Comete> UQlev: ok so how can i do this  ?  just specifying 2 transports ?
[16:20:37] <rob0> Comete, lots of ways. Virtual(5) aliasing, recipient_bcc_maps off the top of my head. Probably others. Depending on the real goal you might not want to do it in Postfix ... rsync the mailboxes?
[16:21:07] <Comete> UQlev: my users don't access to their mailboxes from the internet but only from the LAN
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[16:24:19] <Comete> rob0: it is just to migrate from one internal server to another, so i would like the mails to be sent to the 2 servers
[16:24:23] <fluxdude> I'm trying to relay from one mailserver to another using the line "relayhost = ip.add.re.ss" in my main.cf
[16:25:00] <fluxdude> doesn't look to be working, although this machine has an ip address which is allowed to relay in the other mail server's conf
[16:25:09] <fluxdude> any ideas?
[16:25:31] <Comete> fluxdude: your firewall ?
[16:25:40] * rob0 would check LOGS
[16:26:08] <Dominian> and what troubleshooting have you done to find the issue?
[16:26:17] <Dominian> or did you notice it wasn't working and decided to pop in here without looking?
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[16:32:12] <fluxdude> no I have been reading my logs, telnetting etc...
[16:32:57] <fluxdude> there is no logical firewall in between, they are communicating over vpn with free access and can telnet 25 from one to the other.
[16:34:17] <fluxdude> argg, it's still trying to connect directly, why? I have reloaded postfix after editing main.cf
[16:34:43] <rob0> !debug
[16:34:44] <knoba> rob0: 'debug' : http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html : a good starting point for how to deal with problems and to report information to those who might help. Post your information in a pastebin such as http://pastebin.ca/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ .
[16:35:09] <rob0> Let's see "postconf -n" and some log excerpts at a pastebin.
[16:35:30] <fluxdude> is relayhost = ip.addr.ee.ss and not the right way to send __all__ non-local mail through another mail server?
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[16:37:38] <Xerus> I have a problem using MySQL+Postfix+Squirrelmail. I can login and compose messages, When I sent the message it appear in the folder SENT but when I login as the other user, there is no message in the INBOX, do someone has had that problem?
[16:38:09] <Dominian> Xerus: what do your LOGS say?
[16:38:20] <fluxdude> I clearly have relayhost = ip.add.re.ss in my /etc/postfix/main.cf but the postfix -n shows relayhost = blank
[16:38:20] <rob0> postconf.5.html#relayhost : relayhost = [an.ip.add.ress]
[16:38:22] <fluxdude> how come?
[16:38:41] <Dominian> normally a relayhost param is a DNS
[16:38:44] <Dominian> er... FQDN
[16:38:50] <Xerus> Dominian, wait me a second I will paste /var/log/mail.log
[16:38:51] <Dominian> the [ ] tell postfix to treat it as an IP
[16:38:55] <rob0> maybe a typo? Leading space before "relayhost"?
[16:39:37] <Dominian> Xerus: didn't really ask you to post it.. I asked if you had read it
[16:40:07] <Xerus> yeah, and I didn't find any warnings, errors or stuff like that
[16:40:21] <Dominian> well something happened...
[16:41:02] <Xerus> I am using, MySQL + Courier-IMAP to auth the users
[16:41:18] <Xerus> should the mailbox be created also with Courier-IMAP
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[16:41:49] <Xerus> I have the users folders at /var/spool/mail/virtual_users/
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[16:43:56] <fluxdude> Dominian: I've added the [] for the ip address and reloaded postfix but postconf -n still shows relayhost = blank.
[16:45:17] <Dominian> well not sure what to tell you
[16:45:28] <fluxdude> aha, never mind, someone had put a relayhost= further down away from the relayhost section and it was overriding my one, postconf -n now shows the right one.
[16:45:44] <fluxdude> back to basics with grep saved the day.
[16:47:12] <rob0> The [ ] brackets inhibit MX lookup ... that's all. In the case of relayhost it would work without them.
[16:47:32] <Dominian> rob0: yeah.. tells it to ignore DNS and see it just as the IP
[16:50:37] <Xerus> fluxdude: a question what will be the problem if relayhost is blank, I did postconf and it also appear blank
[16:51:10] <fluxdude> Xerus: I am trying to get one of my mail servers to relay to another mail server I have in order to get out to the internet
[16:51:32] <fluxdude> the second mail server allows relaying from this ip, but I'm having trouble getting the first to relay out through it
[16:51:51] <fluxdude> I've reloaded with the postconf -n showing relayhost = [ip.add.re.ss]
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[16:52:13] <fluxdude> but the mail queue is still not decreasing for several minutes after doing a sendmail -q
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[16:53:24] <fluxdude> I take it back, it's __finally__ done it after some more time.
[16:53:34] <fluxdude> thanks for the help guys, much appreciated.
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[16:56:16] <Xerus> fluxdude: then relayhost is used when you want to forward the messages?
[16:56:43] <rob0> !relayhost
[16:56:44] <knoba> rob0: 'relayhost' : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The default host to send non-local mail to when no entry is matched in the optional transport(5) table. When no relayhost is given, mail is routed directly to the destination.
[16:57:00] <rob0> (unrelated to the issue Xerus was asking about)
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[16:59:25] <Xerus> I got this on mail.log May 21 08:48:22 gps postfix/smtp[19472]: 23AE093060A: to=<admin at gps dot net>, relay=none, delay=1311, status=deferred (connect to 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]: Connection refused) someone may help me
[17:01:32] <rob0> Xerus: 127.0.0.1 ... does that look familiar to you? It should.
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[17:02:01] <k31th> Guys i have this problem keep getting bounced emails saying cant resolve names.
[17:02:04] <k31th> yet
[17:02:11] <Xerus> rob0: yes localhost, what is wrong with it?
[17:02:22] <k31th> i logged in it seemed the box's dns servers where wrong
[17:02:46] <k31th> I have entered in the DNS servers now in  /etc/resolv.conf i can now resolve names
[17:02:54] <k31th> however im still getting bounced emails
[17:02:56] <k31th> any ideas?
[17:03:15] <rob0> Xerus, you set up a content_filter, and it is broken and/or not running.
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[17:03:39] <rob0> !debug
[17:03:40] <knoba> rob0: 'debug' : http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html : a good starting point for how to deal with problems and to report information to those who might help. Post your information in a pastebin such as http://pastebin.ca/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ .
[17:03:53] <rob0> k31th: ^^ see the chroot section therein
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[17:10:23] <Xerus> rob0: Amavis is running
[17:11:03] <Roobarb-Work> k31th: some varients of Linux will "fix" the chroot on a ful service restart, rather than a postfix reload
[17:12:46] <Xerus> I got this message on mail.log May 21 09:10:57 gps postfix/scache[20175]: statistics: start interval May 21 09:07:37
[17:12:47] <Xerus> May 21 09:10:57 gps postfix/scache[20175]: statistics: domain lookup hits=0 miss=2 success=0%
[17:12:47] <Xerus> May 21 09:10:57 gps postfix/scache[20175]: statistics: address lookup hits=0 miss=2 success=0%
[17:18:11] <k31th> hum.
[17:18:16] <k31th> im getting a 550 error
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[17:18:59] <k31th>  Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table; from=<wbfbath at wbf-bath dot co.uk>
[17:19:02] <k31th> damn it
[17:19:05] <k31th> found problem
[17:19:06] <k31th> hell.
[17:29:56] <Xerus> Someone may help me with that problen
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[17:45:11] <tchmnkyz> hey there, i know there was a RBL at one time for doing an entire country (say china) but i cant seem to find it anyone else know of one?
[17:46:07] <tchmnkyz> i got by ASN just looking for by countyr
[17:51:03] <ikaro> hi
[17:51:13] <ikaro> anyone uses postfixadmin ?
[17:51:57] <sepski> ikaro, installed it today for the first time :P
[17:52:17] <ikaro> i c
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[17:52:54] <ikaro> ive been using it for a while, but on a diferent box than where postfix is installed.
[17:53:07] <ikaro> to create accounts I use a bash script
[17:53:34] <ikaro> I wonder if anyone got a 'mod' to postfix admin so that it can create the maildirs on a remote system
[17:54:07] <sepski> ikaro, i do it by sending a welcome message and i belive postfix admin supports that
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[17:54:43] <ikaro> how ?
[17:55:24] <ikaro> when you create a new account on postfixadmin it only access the mysqldb .. not the machine where the maildir is
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[17:56:06] <ikaro> i know about that welcome message, but afaik it only works on the 'local' box
[17:58:12] <sepski> hmm not here i also send the message from a different box from postfix
[17:58:35] <sepski> but that's not with postfixadmin tho. but that should not make a difference
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[18:00:04] <xpoint> ikaro, postfixadmin was used here, but i changed to openvisp
[18:01:49] <xpoint> ikaro, postfix admin will run on one webhost where mailbox is olso on that host, so if you wanted to seperate web and mta you have to configure postfixadmin as so that localhost is not used
[18:03:35] <xpoint> basicly just send a email to the email addy that is added to the sql database will make the creation of mailbox where its hosted, until this is arrived there is not possible to login via imap/pop3 even that the account is in sql
[18:04:44] <vice-versa> tchmnkyz: rbl.cluecentral.net,  http://www.cluecentral.net/rbl/
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[18:11:39] <xpoint> vice-versa, nice
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[18:15:47] <ikaro> i had a mistake in the config
[18:16:03] <ikaro> 'mistake' .. .. i didnt changed it since I splited the services :/
[18:18:11] <henriknj> I read a mailpost about a mailscanner problem where some mail had disappeared. Most people recommended amavisd-new instead of mailscanner because they see mailscanner as evil because it touches the queue. Why is it evil to touch the queue
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[18:23:06] <Roobarb-Work> henriknj: because if your program crashes and wipes out the queue message, theres no chance to re-queue that message to be scanned
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[19:03:36] <henriknj> Roobarb-Work, but what about the new way MS do it - with the hold queue
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[19:26:25] * Alex waves at Roobarb-Work :)
[19:29:01] <Dominian> henriknj: If you configure postfix to stick all incoming messages into the HOLD queue the messages are not being touched by MailScanner in a live queue.  The issue prior was that unless you ran two instances of postfix.. one to receive and one to send.. mailscanner and postfix combined could mangle the queue files as they were both working with live queues.. with the new method of putting things in a hold queue.. this is no longer an issue.
[19:29:38] <Dominian> henriknj: and I know this because it works fine on my setup.. in fact I had an issue with MailScanner that I had to corrrect.. and with this setup... postfix just put everything in the hold queue.. I fixed the issue with mailscanner.. restarted.. and it started scanning away like nothing had happened.. so.. no big deal.
[19:33:15] <henriknj> So there isnt really any reason for bashing it about being evil with the queue
[19:33:38] <Dominian> nope
[19:33:57] <Dominian> I myself can not justify putting yet ANOTHER daemon in play by using amavisd-new
[19:34:06] <Dominian> Its pointless imho
[19:34:11] <Dominian> Mailscanner + postfix works fine.
[19:34:21] <Dominian> I'm sure I'll be considered a heretic for saying that, but I really don't care.
[19:35:34] <Alex> Ooh - something you guys might know - how impossible is it to use dspam without procmail (ie - for vmail boxes?)
[19:35:57] <Dominian> I don't use procmail nor dspam
[19:36:03] <Dominian> all of my domains are virtual and stored in mysql
[19:36:15] <xpoint> but there is still a big but, it makes it imposible to use hold for othere thins then mailscanner
[19:36:32] <Dominian> xpoint: I have no reason to use hold for anything other than MailScanner.
[19:36:56] <Alex> Dominian: Same here, and at the moment I just do greylisting, but I'm still getting sizable amounts of spammage.
[19:36:57] <Dominian> So the "but" is a moot point.
[19:36:59] <xpoint> fair enough
[19:37:09] <Dominian> Alex: greylisting + RBLs will help greatly
[19:37:17] <Dominian> Alex: adding a greet pause will slow down a good portion of them
[19:37:24] <many> how long do you greylist?
[19:37:37] <Dominian> Well..
[19:37:43] <Dominian> many: was that to me or Alex ?
[19:37:50] <xpoint> one can olso argue that mailscanner is not needed by using a better rbl system
[19:38:01] <Dominian> xpoint: zi don't use mailscanner for RBLs
[19:38:03] <Alex> many: Honestly? No idea. :)
[19:38:09] <Dominian> frankly.. doing RBLs at the MTA is faster
[19:38:29] <tchmnkyz> anyone with the Country RBL's
[19:39:05] <xpoint> tchmnkyz, policyd-weight, not rbl in postfix
[19:39:31] <henriknj> Do you guys think wietse will include the sqlite patch in upcomming releases
[19:39:58] <tchmnkyz> no i want to just RBL out a entire country
[19:39:59] <tchmnkyz> lol
[19:40:08] <tchmnkyz> i have done it b4 just lost the rbl i used
[19:40:26] <xpoint> tchmnkyz, cluecentral ?
[19:40:39] <tchmnkyz> i dont think it was that one
[19:40:49] <many> google country based DNSBL
[19:41:06] <xpoint> tchmnkyz, http://www.cluecentral.net/rbl/
[19:41:25] <many> countries.nerd.dk, maybe
[19:41:34] <tchmnkyz> no it was a .cc i thought
[19:41:34] <xpoint> many, unstable
[19:42:00] <many> i dont remember who run nerd.dk, but i guess sabri is stable, yes.
[19:42:06] <xpoint> imho a single ip cant be assigned to 2 countries
[19:42:14] <many> it can
[19:42:19] <xpoint> sure ?
[19:42:31] <many> well
[19:42:41] <many> d'you know how country DNSBL work?
[19:42:47] <tchmnkyz> it can be assigned to one but used in another
[19:43:26] <xpoint> then this liste is by design unstable
[19:43:35] <many> heh
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[19:43:48] <tchmnkyz> but it does help to cut down on some of the shit
[19:43:51] <many> by your definition every list is "unstable"
[19:44:12] <tchmnkyz> technically yes but it does help cut down on the bulk of it
[19:44:15] <xpoint> many, yes, i only trust my own rbls
[19:44:44] <many> the only place on how create country based DNSBLs are the assigned lists of RIRs
[19:44:53] <many> +to
[19:45:02] <xpoint> many, yes
[19:45:06] <many> and these lists are not 100% accurate either
[19:45:11] <many> for two simple reasons
[19:45:12] <tchmnkyz> no it is not
[19:45:18] <tchmnkyz> IP's are portable
[19:45:27] <many> a) every LIR can tell its RIR anything
[19:45:41] <xpoint> i will take my own ip with me to japan :-)
[19:45:54] <Dominian> Depends on who owns that IP
[19:45:57] <xpoint> if my isp exists there :-)
[19:45:57] <many> b) even if he says the ips are "DE", they still can be in use in "FR" for example
[19:46:05] <many> you still can tunnel
[19:46:11] <many> just run a vpn
[19:46:12] <Dominian> Yeah, but what's the point of that?
[19:46:31] <many> of running a tunnel?
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[19:46:37] <Dominian> Yeah.. I bought an IP from Japan.. but I use it in Alaska.
[19:46:47] <many> you dont buy ips
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[19:47:07] <Dominian> many: no kidding
[19:47:14] <Dominian> many: It was a sarcastic remark.
[19:47:16] <many> no.
[19:47:50] <many> yea
[19:47:51] <many> well
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[19:48:10] <many> i asked myself a dozens of times why idiots around the world used an ipv6 tunnelbroker in canada
[19:48:28] <many> i guess the answer is: because they can
[19:49:03] <xpoint> many, he yes, when my isp supports ipv6 routes i will add it to my router
[19:49:19] <many> haha
[19:49:31] <xpoint> hopefylly ipv6 will get rid of the spammers
[19:49:34] <many> this box has native ipv6 connectivity for... ohwell, years.
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[19:51:31] <xpoint> one custommer = one ipv6 for life, then custommers stop abuse ther network when the ip is blocked
[19:52:00] <many> it wont work like that.
[19:52:07] <many> iam sorry. :)
[19:52:14] <xpoint> many, it could
[19:52:51] <many> when you change providers youll change isps
[19:52:58] <many> only ARIN does offer PIv6 for now
[19:53:04] <xpoint> hov many times do you change telephone numbers in mobil phones ?
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[19:53:33] <many> i recently got my...
[19:53:34] <many> uhm
[19:53:38] <many> third or forth number
[19:53:47] <many> mobile, that is
[19:54:36] <xpoint> point is that ip's change more then one change mobil, if we have static ip to each custommer in the world it was easy to block spam
[19:54:58] <many> you can do that in ipv4 world, too
[19:55:14] <many> actually, i do. my lists are just not complete.
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[19:55:23] <xpoint> and custommers will take steps to protect windows so thay can send mails with out being blocked
[19:55:32] <many> hahahaha
[19:55:41] <many> youre optimistic :D
[19:55:52] <xpoint> yes :-)
[19:56:35] <xpoint> i field it the way to go, but if no one else thinks so it will for ever be spam
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[19:58:35] <xpoint> in the real world, eg postman is paid by the sender, not much spam is sent in snail mail here
[19:59:42] <many> tell that those people who put stuff in my snailmailinbox without paying the postman
[20:00:15] <theblackbox> lol, uk has 7.5 Million Tonnes of unaddressed mail every year (inc spam mail)
[20:01:40] * cpm gets mostly spam snailmail as well.
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[20:04:33] <Dominian> crichardson: sup
[20:04:42] <crichardson> sup man
[20:07:07] <Dominian> blood pressure
[20:07:35] <crichardson> i hear that xen/gentoo doing that to me also
[20:08:13] <Dominian> hehe
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[20:11:28] <jap0x> i set an email-server up yesterday. (postfix)  i wanna add a user .. for example user at mydomain dot com
[20:11:34] <jap0x> How can i do it ?
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[20:15:20] <xpoint> useradd
[20:15:55] <xpoint> jap0x, know you unix basic first :-)
[20:16:44] <xpoint> but if you like to not use unix logins, see virtual with postfix
[20:16:59] <jap0x> xpoint, i added 80 user like this : useradd... so, they will have mail account with their username ?
[20:17:10] <xpoint> yes
[20:17:10] <jap0x> :P
[20:17:19] <jap0x> ah thats ok.
[20:17:28] <xpoint> username@mydestination
[20:17:45] <jap0x> but /home/user ?
[20:18:02] <jap0x> /var/mail/user ?
[20:18:07] <jap0x> hehe
[20:18:14] <xpoint> thay still need to pop3 or imap
[20:18:29] <jap0x> i have pop3
[20:19:06] <xpoint> everything is fine then
[20:19:22] <jap0x> ok.
[20:19:43] <jap0x> everything seems ok now.. postfix and dovecot is running
[20:19:48] <jap0x> *are
[20:19:49] <jap0x> :P
[20:19:54] <xpoint> ok
[20:19:57] <xpoint> cool
[20:20:28] <xpoint> setup dovecut sasl to postfix, and you are completely done
[20:20:37] <jap0x> i am going to try sending an e-mail to my gf :P
[20:20:49] <jap0x> yeah its done.
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[20:22:26] <xpoint> btw if you have more then one mydestination, users in unix accounts exists on every domain thats listed in mydestination
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[20:46:45] <tuxcrafte1> Signum: good day
[20:47:11] <tuxcrafte1> do you already have some info so i can try putting dovecot on my postfix system
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[21:17:56] <Bejgli> how is the from=<> address syntax call? should i accept it or not?
[21:18:06] <Bejgli> called*
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[21:38:13] <tuxcrafte1> Signum: are you there
[21:38:23] <tuxcrafte1> Godsey: are you there
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[22:29:49] <omry> I am trying to redirect emails to a specific email address to a program using /etc/aliases. this works for local users, but I can't get it to work when the email is an external (real) email address. any idea?
[22:30:11] <omry> works for local users = works when the email address is local
[22:30:40] <xpoint> virtual_alias
[22:31:42] <omry> xpoint, hmm?
[22:32:17] <xpoint> if you need non local user alias, use virtual alias
[22:33:34] <omry> xpoint, also know as virtual forwarding, by any chance?
[22:33:57] <xpoint> yes
[22:34:32] <xpoint> the forward can still be to local mailbox
[22:36:50] <omry> hmm, I added a virtual forward from user@host to user, but it does not seem to be triggering the alias program
[22:38:22] <omry> does it need a real local user?
[22:38:35] <omry> (it worked without one for /etc/aliases
[22:38:36] <omry> )
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[22:44:28] <action09> hi
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[23:47:53] <tuxick> having trouble making postfix-ldap work on debian
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