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[01:40:28] <darrend> hi all.  I just re-installed a postfix server and copied back the whole /etc/postfix directory from the backup prior to re-install..
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[01:41:17] <darrend> now trying to validate the setup before I open port 25 at the firewall again and testing by telnetting to port 25 locally seems to indicate that it is now an open relay
[01:41:33] <darrend> would this have anything to do with me telnetting from localhost?
[01:42:01] <Zerberus> yes
[01:42:05] <darrend> or is the config screwed somehow?
[01:42:27] <darrend> oh ok.. good.  'cos postconf looked ok to me
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[03:59:40] <mirlyn> is there any reason using an alias to run a conduit (autoreply msg script) wouldn't work with always_bcc in main.cf?
[04:02:02] <mirlyn> using mysql-based virtual hosting per Signum's tutorial on debian sarge
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[06:52:13] <ex-parrot> hey everyone... is there some implicit / defalt time limit on the length of an SMTP conversation in postfix?
[06:52:25] <ex-parrot> we've got people complaining about not being able to send large e-mails despite having ramped the maximum message size up to 50mb
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[06:54:47] <f3ew> there are a few timers
[06:55:02] <ex-parrot> how can I adjust them? I'm having trouble finding the relevant configuration options in the manual
[06:57:36] <f3ew> postconf |grep timeout
[06:58:15] <ex-parrot> yeah I'm just doing that
[06:59:18] <ex-parrot> most of these seem to be related to lmtp
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[07:06:58] <ex-parrot> is there anything else I should check for timeouts occuring only when attempting to relay large messages?
[07:10:19] <f3ew> your firewall
[07:10:19] <ex-parrot> how so, f3ew?
[07:11:12] <ex-parrot> interestingly I see nothing in the postfix logs
[07:12:59] <f3ew> Specifically pmtud
[07:13:04] <f3ew> and/or a Cisco PIX
[07:13:06] <ex-parrot> ah
[07:13:09] <ex-parrot> we don't run any CISCO gear
[07:13:18] <ex-parrot> the only thing between this box and a fibre connection to the internet is an iptables router
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[07:14:46] <ex-parrot> I did see that section in the manual
[07:14:50] <ex-parrot> but I don't see entirely how it's relevant
[07:17:54] <ex-parrot> what setting do I need to change to alleviate "exceeded storage allocation"? I've set everything relevant I can find to 50mb
[07:17:57] <ex-parrot> but I can't send a 45mb file
[07:18:09] <f3ew> mailbox_size_limit
[07:18:22] <f3ew> 45MB, x 4/3 for base64 encoding
[07:18:35] <ex-parrot> ah true
[07:18:44] <ex-parrot> I forgot about that
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[07:19:34] <ex-parrot> hmm
[07:19:43] <ex-parrot> well I can deliver a message to the postfix server over the local lan that is 25mb in size
[07:19:59] <ex-parrot> so I suspect it's a speed of delivery thing or the fragmentation issue you mentioned before
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[07:26:46] <inflex> Offtopic - is there a  way to remove a /block/ of emails via POP3, as apposed to individual deleting?
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[09:40:12] <sysmonk> heh, guys, have you ever seen spam written as a poem ? :))
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[10:32:15] <sasch> hi all
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[10:57:27] <row> Hi, whats the primary cause of "550 Sender verify failed (in reply to RCPT TO command)" ?
[10:57:40] <row> The email address I am sending from is accepting mail
[10:58:21] <row> reverse dns and such mx records etc all setup
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[11:01:53] <R1ck> do you do SPF record checking?
[11:02:00] <R1ck> or Sender ID perhaps
[11:02:49] <pmjdebruijn> maybe callback verification?
[11:03:07] <row> yeah seems that way
[11:03:14] <row> just doing some tests at the moment
[11:03:23] <row> to track down the cause :/
[11:07:39] <pmjdebruijn> row, why not turn on a sniffer?
[11:07:50] <pmjdebruijn> wireshark might be able to shed some light on the situation
[11:08:05] <row> k will look into it
[11:08:06] <row> cheers
[11:08:45] <row> its the from address causing it
[11:09:02] <row> it can't verify it thats for sure as mail from that box from a different address works
[11:09:10] <row> I am thinking its dns, is that likely?
[11:09:36] <row> the domain is thehalfbottle.co.uk
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[11:09:44] <row> you able to take a poke at the dns for me?
[11:10:16] <row> I have a feeling its something ukreg have done but I can't be sure, seems unlikely but I use same mailserver setup on other systems and don't have this issue.
[11:10:27] <row> only thing different is dns is done by ukreg
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[11:14:05] <f3ew> what is the MX set to?
[11:14:30] <pmjdebruijn> row, seems fine to me
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[11:16:49] <row> afaik its not me :/
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[11:41:06] <kombi> can postsuper delete a queue for specific receipient?
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[11:44:25] <kombi> like postsuper -d example.com ?
[11:50:13] <kombi> quiet it is..
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[11:50:51] <Nesquick> hi there all
[11:50:58] <Nesquick> i have a litle problem...
[11:51:13] <Nesquick> i configured postfix with virtual domain support and mysql
[11:51:21] <Nesquick> when i try to telnet localhost pop3
[11:51:43] <Nesquick> i login with user at domain dot com and pass userpass
[11:51:46] <Nesquick> but i recive
[11:52:20] <Nesquick> can anyone help me?
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[12:18:18] <SID_seba> woww
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[12:32:17] <JohnRobert> Hi there! My postfix setup is generally working very nicely.. however, any mail it tries to send to a hotmail address gets 'swallowed' by hotmail. Hotmail servers give me a 250 OK, but the mail never actually arrives in the hotmail account (not even in the junk folder etc). Any ideas why that might be?
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[12:33:53] <pmjdebruijn> JohnRobert, are you mailing from a dynamic IP?
[12:34:00] <Roobarb> JohnRobert: if the remote mail server gives you a 250, the problem is out of your control
[12:34:20] <JohnRobert> not a dynamic IP, although it did change about 2 months ago.
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[12:34:31] <pmjdebruijn> JohnRobert, did you change your MX as well?
[12:34:40] <JohnRobert> Roobarb: mail sent using 'mail whatever at hotmail dot com' is getting through though
[12:34:47] <JohnRobert> (from the same server)
[12:35:28] <JohnRobert> yes, the mx would have changed about 3 or 4 months ago also
[12:37:09] <pmjdebruijn> huh?
[12:37:27] <pmjdebruijn> is your MX correct now? did you check
[12:38:13] <JohnRobert> it's certainly correct yes..  for example, if I set the forwarding address to my gmail account, it works just fine
[12:38:27] <JohnRobert> and like I say, I get a 250 from hotmail anyway
[12:39:18] <pmjdebruijn> forwarding address?
[12:39:21] <pmjdebruijn> huh, are you forwarding?
[12:39:53] <JohnRobert> yes
[12:40:36] <JohnRobert> http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/ << based on that setup there
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[13:28:46] <cpm> Anyone else seen a noticeable uptick in spam last couple of weeks?
[13:28:59] <f3ew> nope
[13:29:23] <Signum> cpm: only over the weekend when my spamassassin refused to do it's job :)
[13:29:30] <cpm> k
[13:29:31] <cpm> thanks
[13:29:44] <f3ew> I haven't seen other people's numbers yet though
[13:29:59] <cpm> Are there other people?
[13:30:00] <Signum> At work we seem to have an increase in stock spam though.
[13:30:01] <cpm> :)
[13:30:22] <Signum> Seems like that stock crap is really paying some peoples' lives.
[13:30:32] <cpm> Signum, yeah, I'd write that off to a new email list or new spammer
[13:31:41] <f3ew> http://67.15.238.68/mailgraph/
[13:32:55] <cpm> got one of those from 2 or 3 mondays ago?
[13:35:49] <cpm> the month graphs don't look valid
[13:38:05] <f3ew> It's a relatively fresh server
[13:38:16] <f3ew> frontending for 5 MTAs
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[13:38:41] <f3ew> each spike is an additional MTA being moved behind this box
[13:40:29] <cpm> indeed
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[14:01:10] <Laibsch> I want to use RBL with postfix.  I'd like to produce a custom error message when a mail is rejected because of an RBL.
[14:01:15] <Laibsch> I found http://www1.trendmicro.com/en/products/nrs/nas/use/configure.htm#04
[14:01:32] <Laibsch> But I am not sure something is not missing
[14:02:24] <Laibsch> Is it really enough to have a file with the replies somewhere, hash it and postfix is good to go?
[14:03:06] <Laibsch> I would have assumed postfix needs to be told about how to interpret the content of that file.  Can it deduct the semantics for itself?
[14:05:16] <Laibsch> OK, I found the answer myself. It seems that rbl_reply_maps is the configuration parameter to understand, here.
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[14:25:19] <ttf> hi all.. on my system /usr/sbin/postqueue is owned by root:postdrop and hast the permissions -rwxr-sr-x .Is it sane (secure) to add a user to the postdrop group to enable him to flush the queue with postqueue -f?
[14:26:50] <f3ew> all users have permissions to do that by default
[14:27:41] <f3ew> authorized_flush_users = static:anyone
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[14:34:18] <ttf> authorized_flush_users doesn't show up in postconf - I'm using 2.0.16 - how can I verify the setting for this variable?
[14:36:11] <ttf> k - just checked - this setting is only available on > 2.2
[14:36:46] <ttf> so - anybody knows how this was set / modified in versions < 2.2 ?
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[14:40:23] <VSpike> quick and possibly dumb question - if I'm fetching my mail with fetchmail + postfix, can I use postgrey ?
[14:41:16] <Zerberus> makes no sense to do so
[14:41:27] <Zerberus> you already accepted the mail in first instance
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[14:54:33] <ptomter> Hello, I got this problem, where I thought that only mail accounts that was made by root was working, but now somone has set up an account in outlook with false e-mail information, and they can send e-mails from this domain, how can I block it?
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[14:59:05] <cpm> postconf relay_domains says what?
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[15:00:05] <_ac3_> hi
[15:00:11] <VSpike> Zerberus: thanks.  I thought that would be the case, but I wondered if the mail could still be bounced at the later stage
[15:00:23] <cpm> postconf smtpd_recipient_restrictions says what?
[15:00:23] <_ac3_> is there software for postfix like ipizer for sendmail? http://www.acme.com/software/ipizer/
[15:00:54] <cpm> see pflogsumm.pl
[15:01:42] <cpm> http://jimsun.linxnet.com/postfix_contrib.html
[15:01:42] <_ac3_> is that possible with pflogsumm?
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[15:03:30] <cpm> pflogsumm.pl breaks your logs down into easy-to-analyse categories and items, try it.
[15:04:33] <_ac3_> thx cpm
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[15:10:17] <cpm> n'joy
[15:11:20] <ttf> when I use postqueue -f it doesn't show up in the logs - even if I set debug_level=2. How can I verify that I can use postqueue -f as normal user if the mailq is empty?
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[15:11:49] <ttf> using 2.0.16
[15:13:47] <cpm> postqueue can only be used by the postfix user and root
[15:14:06] <cpm> unless your 'normal' user is the postfix user, you can't use it
[15:14:30] <cpm> without some sudo-ism
[15:15:05] <cpm> add the -v switch to see what's going on, man postqueue
[15:15:25] <ptomter> Hello, I got this problem, where I thought that only mail accounts that was made by root was working, but now somone has set up an account in outlook with false e-mail information, and they can send e-mails from this domain, how can I block it?
[15:15:51] <cpm> postconf relay_domains says what?
[15:15:56] <cpm> postconf smtpd_recipient_restrictions says what?
[15:16:05] <f3ew> mailq -q
[15:16:09] <f3ew> @ cpm
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[15:20:49] <ptomter> This can I find in main.cf?
[15:21:22] 
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[15:22:24] <f3ew> ptomter, run postconf
[15:27:35] <ptomter> relay_domains says = stmpserver.tld.no  and smtpd_recipient_restrictions says nothing
[15:32:48] <knoxy> Hi all.. All messages fo my mailserver says this error: 'status=deferred (delivery temporarily suspended: lost connection with 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1] while receiving the initial server greeting)' How can I do to fix it?
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[15:33:15] <zaafouri> hi all
[15:33:44] <_ac3_> i just need pflogsumm to output the same as ipizer would do for sendmail
[15:33:56] <zaafouri> plz I want know what's diference between "reply to" and "return-path" ?
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[15:45:59] <cpm> s/sane/sand
[15:46:19] <ttf> cpm: when I use the -v switch for postqueue it still doesn't show me any information and the exit status is the same (0) if I run postqueue -f -v as root or as user
[15:47:20] <cpm> ttf, man postqueue
[15:49:15] <ptomter> relay_domains says = stmpserver.tld.no  and smtpd_recipient_restrictions says nothing
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[15:51:58] <backblue> hi, where can i see, the variables i can use, in master.conf?
[15:52:10] <ttf> postqueue: dict_update: process_id = 2642
[15:52:22] <ttf> when running with -v -v
[15:52:44] <ttf> so I suppose that was a correct attempt to flush the queue?
[15:53:29] <ttf> I ran it as user and as root and diffed the output - that line is the only different line (the process_id is different obviously)
[16:07:04] <_ac3_> cpm: could you give me a tip what options for pflogsumm i should use?
[16:07:37] <_ac3_> ipizer adds (where possible) the ip address to each log entry
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[16:36:04] <Lap_64> WEEEEEEEEEEEHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE hparker
[16:36:09] * Lap_64 hugs hparker
[16:37:55] <hparker> Heya Lap_64
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[16:41:19] * cpm lugs hparker
[16:41:54] <hparker> Morning cpm
[16:42:03] <cpm> morn'n
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[16:50:12] <stellina> hi people
[16:51:28] <stellina> Sometimes I receive in postmaster mail with errors from remote mail servers after their rcpt-to command.
[16:51:59] <stellina> the error is: Temporary lookup failure
[16:52:47] <stellina> my users are in an ldap... it seems that sometimes  postfix cannot contact ldap (both are in the same machine)
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[16:53:55] <stellina> does this have to do with postfix?
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[16:55:37] <stellina> Sometimes I receive in postmaster mail with errors from remote mail servers after their rcpt-to command.
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[17:11:48] <stellina> I have a question
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[17:12:09] <stellina> I have maximal_queue_lifetime 5days (the default)
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[17:12:23] <el_mexicano> hi there
[17:12:30] <pdbogen> OMG EL_MEXICANO.
[17:12:38] <stellina> that means that since a mail goes to the defer queue, the sender will be notified that the mail is undeliverable after 5 days?
[17:13:03] <pdbogen> "The maximal time a message is queued before it is sent back as undeliverable."
[17:13:33] <pdbogen> I don't think that your interpretation is exactly correct, since I would guess that once a mail is retried, the lifetime timer is restarted. But, I could be wrong.
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[17:14:19] <stellina> let me understand... as soon as postfix gets a mail, it tries to deliver it. if that fails (for example remote smtp doesnot respond), it places the mail to the queue deferred. is this correct?
[17:14:46] <el_mexicano> Postfix not automaticcally starts on system start since I am installed policyd-weight. Error message: postfix/postfix-script: fatal: usage: postfix start ...
[17:14:51] <pdbogen> Well, if it fails with a temporary error code. If the remote server responds with a 500-series, it's going to be immediately permanently undeliverable.
[17:15:20] <pdbogen> el_mexicano : Sounds like a distribution-specific problem.
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[17:16:00] <stellina> ok. 5 days aren't two much time?
[17:16:22] <stellina> s/two/too/
[17:16:25] <pdbogen> It's the default, so I would expect that it's reasonable.
[17:16:50] <stellina> ok but...
[17:17:25] <pdbogen> It may be that the timer is not restarted whenever delivery is reattempted.
[17:17:32] <stellina> they sent me a mail... the mail cannot be delivered for some reason and stays in queue 5 days. The sender will be notified after 5d that the message could not be delivered?
[17:18:00] <pdbogen> Probably. I expect there are other factors that might affect whether or not a notification is actually sent.
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[17:19:44] <stellina> how can I have postfix notify senders that the mail could not be sent but it will try to send it for 5 days>?
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[17:23:16] <pdbogen> stellina : http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#delay_warning_time
[17:24:32] <stellina> pdbogen: thanx!!!
[17:24:43] <pdbogen> No problem.
[17:25:38] <knoxy> May 14 12:19:02 head amavis[6641]: (!) DENIED ACCESS from IP 0.0.0.0, policy bank '' (how can I do to fix it?)
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[17:33:28] <alduin> Quick question regarding reject_unverified_sender... anyone know how it chooses which host to connect back to?  Does it use the MX record for the sender's From: address or does it just try to connect back to the machine that's trying to send the message?
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[17:39:08] <stellina> pdbogen: do you also know if I can customize this warning mail sent to users that the mail will stay in queue for x days ?
[17:39:40] <pdbogen> Well, the templates are customizable. I guess you can just edit it to say whatever you want.
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[17:40:56] <pickcoder> IIRC, sender verification is done based on the mail from header
[17:41:11] <stellina> ok I'll google it
[17:41:15] <pickcoder> for recpient checks it's based on rcpt to
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[17:47:23] <benofsky> I want to run a command when postfix receives email to a certain address is this possible?
[17:47:26] <benofsky> if so how?
[17:49:31] <pickcoder> benofsky: you can pipe the e-mail through std-in to an application
[17:49:41] <benofsky> how would I do that?
[17:49:46] <benofsky> that's exactly what I want to do
[17:49:47] <pickcoder> are you using procmail for mail delivery?
[17:49:53] <benofsky> I'm not sure
[17:50:01] <benofsky> :P
[17:50:04] <pickcoder> postconf mailbox_command
[17:50:10] <benofsky> kk
[17:50:35] <benofsky> mailbox_command =
[17:50:38] <benofsky> nothign :P
[17:50:39] <benofsky> nothing*
[17:52:03] <benofsky> the mailbox_command in main.cf is commented is that normal pickcoder ?
[17:54:12] <pickcoder> commented means it's defaulted
[17:54:21] <benofsky> ok
[17:54:26] <benofsky> I'm compiling procmail now
[17:54:42] <benofsky> done
[17:55:06] <pickcoder> you can setup a pipe delivery agent
[17:55:17] <pickcoder> and use transport to transport the mail to the pipe
[17:55:20] <rob0> Not necessary for local(8) addresses.
[17:56:36] <pickcoder> what's not necc? procmail?
[17:56:51] <benofsky> pickcoder: thanks
[17:57:05] <rob0> A pipe(8) transport. And for simple things, even procmail, yes.
[17:58:06] <pickcoder> so how exactly do you propose to do it?
[17:58:14] <rob0> For a Unix account, just use a $HOME/.forward to forward to the command. There's also aliases(5) which can pipe to commands.
[17:58:42] <pickcoder> true.. aliases would work
[17:58:54] <rob0> if all of the mail for that address is to be run thru the command, I'd use a local alias.
[17:59:06] <pickcoder> I never use .forward.. if it's not an active account it shouldn't be there for security reasons
[17:59:44] <rob0> I use .forward for some of my own mail. Not worried about securing myself. :)
[18:00:01] <rob0> I also use procmail, but I plan to get away from that.
[18:00:15] <pickcoder> benofsky: what rob0 suggested regarding /etc/aliases is a better approach
[18:00:17] * hparker plans on getting away from rob0
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[18:00:38] <pickcoder> heh
[18:02:04] <pickcoder> I want to get away from work
[18:02:19] <pickcoder> a week off in Feb wasn't enough
[18:02:23] <hparker> Even better!
[18:02:33] <hparker> Except the pays sux even more...
[18:03:39] <pickcoder> unfortunately, if I take time off I'll end up working on the house
[18:04:25] <hparker> That'll put you in the hole even faster... Spending it with no income :P
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[18:05:37] <rob0> hparker can run, but he cannot hide
[18:05:58] * hparker hunts a tank to hide behind
[18:07:04] * cpm was 4th armored division (back before it was a light division)
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[18:07:22] <cpm>  "Why walk when you can ride? Why fight when you can hide!"
[18:07:28] <hparker> lol
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[18:16:51] <rob0> I see your armored division and raise you a squadron of A10's.
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[18:17:02] <cpm> Yeah, we had A10s
[18:17:12] <cpm> you need 'em if you are dealing with armor
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[18:59:22] <binwiederhier> hey there
[19:00:35] <binwiederhier> is it possible to use a kind of backup-map e.g. alias_maps = mysql:map1, hash:if_mysql_down_map
[19:01:15] <sepski> binwiederhier, yes i think so
[19:01:51] <binwiederhier> well i tried, but, postfix bounces the mail if mysql is down
[19:02:03] <binwiederhier> or queues it, i don't know exactly
[19:02:06] <cpm> shouldn't bounce, should reject
[19:02:08] <rob0> Typically local(8) settings don't use mysql, but there's no reason why they can't. The reason I point this out is that you might not be using local delivery.
[19:02:33] <cpm> Typically rob0(8) settings don't apply to anything
[19:02:40] <cpm> !rob0
[19:02:41] <knoba> cpm: Error: "rob0" is not a valid command.
[19:02:45] <cpm> see?
[19:02:46] <rob0> too shay!
[19:03:00] <binwiederhier> hm!?!
[19:03:26] <rob0> Um, there is no rob0(8) ... it's rob0(4) and rob0(7)
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[19:03:51] <binwiederhier> okay, my english is not that good. so is it possible or not?
[19:04:03] <binwiederhier> and if it is - how?
[19:04:42] <cpm> rob0, Ahh, that explains a lot
[19:05:28] <rob0> It's possible, but I don't know what happens if the mysql query fails. Your logs might know.
[19:06:38] <binwiederhier> well, i'll assume the queries are correct, but it does not work if mysql is completely down
[19:06:50] <binwiederhier> i'd like to have a backup solution.
[19:07:40] <binwiederhier> i have no backup mx, so the system has to work
[19:07:41] <binwiederhier> :-/
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[19:09:33] <marcster> hi. i am trying to compile cyrus-sasl with the following line: ./configure CPPFLAGS=-I/usr/kerberos/include LDFLAGS=-L/usr/kerberos/lib --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --mandir=/usr/share/man --with-ldap . However i keep on getting a configure: warning: CPPFLAGS=-I/usr/kerberos/include: invalid host type  . error. what did i miss?
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[19:12:29] <rob0> binwiederhier, one workaround would be to use only the hash: lookup, generated from mysql as needed or on a cron schedule.
[19:14:35] <binwiederhier> that would really be the best, i also thought of this
[19:14:45] <binwiederhier> thanks a lot ;)
[19:14:49] <rob0> yw
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[19:16:13] <benofsky> rob0: would you explain this .forward
[19:16:18] <benofsky> sorry I had to go to my french grind
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[19:20:30] <hparker> mmMmm... Fresh ground french
[19:21:52] <rob0> French girls? French kissing? French kissing French girls? Vive la France! Vive l'amour!
[19:22:17] <rob0> benofsky: see the local(8) man page (local.8.html or "man local")
[19:22:32] <benofsky> lol rob0 thanks
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[19:39:57] <xpoint> # 153922
[19:40:17] <xpoint> ah sorry not here :-)
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[20:09:35] <Andreas-Doebelin> Nabend
[20:09:59] <Signum> evenin'
[20:10:26] <Andreas-Doebelin> Oh, sorry, the channel is english, good evening :)
[20:10:41] <Signum> Just a subtle hint. :)
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[20:12:35] <Andreas-Doebelin> I'm tryn to install postfix on my debian stable server, but my linux-knowledge is bad. The manual that I have used sad, that i can find help here. Is anyone here, who has time to help me?
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[20:13:18] <devdas> ask Signum if your manual was at workaround.org
[20:13:19] <devdas> :P
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[20:13:34] <AndreasDoebeling> hehe, yes
[20:13:37] <smesjz> moin Signum
[20:13:38] <Signum> devdas: traitor :)
[20:13:43] <Signum> smesjz: remoin
[20:14:06] <devdas> smesjz
[20:14:09] <AndreasDoebeling> my mail.err-file tells me: May 14 20:00:11 h1189955 postfix/trivial-rewrite[1815]: fatal: mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_domains.cf(0,100): table lookup problem
[20:14:22] <devdas> AndreasDoebeling: Signum owns workaround.org :P
[20:14:29] <Signum> AndreasDoebeling: the tutorial (R) is not yet suitable for debian etch. don't follow it unless you use sarge or have some advanced knowledge
[20:14:34] <smesjz> lo devdas
[20:14:35] <devdas> AndreasDoebeling, what's the relevant warning?
[20:15:00] <AndreasDoebeling> I'm using debian sarge
[20:15:00] * Signum launches VMware to continue writing the etch tutorial
[20:15:08] <smesjz> devdas: you're not an incarnation of f3ew, are you?
[20:15:19] <smesjz> Signum: good boy :)
[20:15:19] <devdas> I am
[20:15:20] <Signum> AndreasDoebeling: look for a further "warning:" in your mail.log. it will tell you the real reason the database access failed
[20:15:22] <devdas> from $HOME
[20:15:36] * mirlyn is waiting for the etch tutorial because he can't get vacation to work with his sarge
[20:15:39] <mirlyn> :D
[20:15:40] * Signum will one day find out what 'f3ew' stands for
[20:15:52] <AndreasDoebeling> devdas: by phpMyAdmin i can access with the login-data
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[20:16:02] * cpm isn't sure he wants to know.
[20:16:09] <devdas> Signum, it used to be my Y! login
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[20:16:40] <smesjz> devdas: ah, now it makes sense. Two Postfix experts from India is too much ;)
[20:16:43] <Signum> devdas: Oh, I see.
[20:16:46] * cpm is having issues with ldconfig -v -n /var/lib/smesjz
[20:16:48] <devdas> hehe
[20:16:58] <devdas> smesjz, there's my ex-boss
[20:17:04] <cpm> ex?
[20:17:11] <devdas> From Outblaze
[20:17:16] * devdas moved to Directi
[20:17:16] * smesjz pokes a whole in cpm
[20:17:21] <smesjz> oh, you resigned?
[20:17:28] <cpm> no more outblaze?
[20:17:50] <cpm> no more Suresh?
[20:18:04] <devdas> yes, no, no
[20:18:15] <devdas> I announced the move in March!
[20:18:28] <smesjz> ah, finally we can spam the outblaze mailservers without getting blacklisted ;)
[20:18:39] <Signum> Most indians I know work for accenture in bangalore and are stupid as a broken water tap.
[20:19:21] <Signum> (but world leading in useless powerpoint charts)
[20:19:30] <cpm> Yeah, but that's the status quo at Accenture
[20:19:55] <cpm> Yeah, but March was only 2 months ago, wasn'
[20:19:58] <devdas> yes
[20:20:07] <cpm> t sure things went from devel to stable in that short a time!
[20:20:24] <Signum> Today I talked to a coworker who tried to tell our board that the Acc. people are just sitting around painint pictures of a world that never will be. He was forcibly moved to another department.
[20:20:34] <devdas> Signum, apply Sturgeon's law to 1.1 B people
[20:20:41] <devdas> ooooh
[20:20:41] <smesjz> hehe
[20:20:52] <devdas> I should get my employer to expand globally
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[20:21:50] <Signum> devdas: I'm not sure about the 90% in sturgeon's law in this case.
[20:21:59] <smesjz> Signum: ever watched Bangla Bangers: global garage on Discovery? About a Brittish car mechanic working with a car designer from Bangalore.. quite nice
[20:22:12] <smesjz> or read Milton Friedman's The World is Flat for that matter
[20:22:22] <smesjz> s/World/Earth/
[20:22:33] <Signum> smesjz: Hmm, I don't think I can watch Discovery. Just have free TV programs pouring down from the sat.
[20:22:48] <devdas> Signum, I know a few folks from the other 10%
[20:23:00] * cpm keeps meaning to get some old k-band stuff so he can watch TV again
[20:23:07] <Signum> smesjz: The only frequently watched TV show is "sandman" for my son.
[20:23:19] <smesjz> hmm
[20:24:19] <AndreasDoebeling> Signum: :D I didn't know that there is also a sandman in america :D (I'm from germany)
[20:24:37] <smesjz> o_O
[20:24:46] <smesjz> it's cpm's favourite program
[20:25:13] <Signum> AndreasDoebeling: Me neither. I'm from Germany, too. ;)
[20:25:49] <cpm> naw, I'm partial to "Bill and Ben, the flower pot men"
[20:25:54] <AndreasDoebeling> Signum: gnahh.. I have so much problems with english, and there are people from germany :P
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[20:26:12] <Signum> AndreasDoebeling: sitting around in an english channel... ironic, eh? :)
[20:26:28] <cpm> seriously trippy stuff, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flower_Pot_Men
[20:26:54] * cpm used to live in Germany
[20:27:08] <AndreasDoebeling> Signum: I've readed your great workshop, but there are some errors. so i have no other options
[20:27:16] <smesjz> I live close to germany...does that count?
[20:27:41] <Signum> smesjz: sure...
[20:28:00] <smesjz> great ;)
[20:28:33] * cpm isn't sure about Sturgeon's Law, doesn't really buy into markets tolerating that kind of inefficiency
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[20:31:36] <Signum> AndreasDoebeling: let's move over to #postfix-de
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[20:35:59] <^IcE-bOy^> hi
[20:36:06] <^IcE-bOy^> somebody can help me with a maildrop file ?
[20:36:11] <^IcE-bOy^> a mailfilter file
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[20:36:18] <^IcE-bOy^> i'm getting sintax problem in this lines
[20:36:29] <smesjz> ^IcE-bOy^: sure
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[20:36:49] <^IcE-bOy^> if (/^X-Spam-Flag: *YES/)
[20:36:50] <^IcE-bOy^> {
[20:36:50] <^IcE-bOy^>         to "$HOME/$DEFAULT/.Spam/"
[20:36:50] <^IcE-bOy^> }
[20:36:53] <^IcE-bOy^> else
[20:36:54] <^IcE-bOy^> {
[20:36:57] <^IcE-bOy^>         add_recipient('javiergonzalez at server dot com')
[20:36:58] <^IcE-bOy^> }
[20:37:01] <^IcE-bOy^> where could be the sintax problem ?
[20:37:04] <^IcE-bOy^> i'm going crazy!!!
[20:37:21] <smesjz> add_recipient? is that a new feature?
[20:37:47] <^IcE-bOy^> i don't know ...
[20:37:48] <smesjz> I use this ->
[20:37:48] <smesjz> if (/^X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=(\S+)/)
[20:38:05] <^IcE-bOy^> i want to send a copy from all no.spam mail to another account
[20:38:20] <smesjz> use cc
[20:38:31] <smesjz> cc ('javiergonzalez at server dot com'
[20:38:33] <^IcE-bOy^> ok, thanks!
[20:38:53] <smesjz> and please read maildroprc manpage
[20:39:18] <smesjz> is javiergonzalez at server dot com a local account?
[20:39:18] <sasch> can help me with postfix and relay
[20:39:33] <^IcE-bOy^> smesjz, now appears to work
[20:39:38] <^IcE-bOy^> i don't have errors
[20:39:43] <^IcE-bOy^> i will check if this worked :D
[20:39:56] <^IcE-bOy^> smesjz, no, is another domain but i don't want public it
[20:40:15] <smesjz> ok, but add_recipient is something you found on a tutorial or so?
[20:40:22] <^IcE-bOy^> yes
[20:40:42] <sasch> this is my mail.log
[20:40:42] <sasch> http://pastebin.ca/487889
[20:41:04] <smesjz> ^IcE-bOy^: which one?
[20:41:25] <^IcE-bOy^> mail2web.com
[20:41:39] <^IcE-bOy^> i want to redirect all my no-spam mail to my push mail account
[20:41:53] <smesjz> strange stuff May 14 20:40:39 papinicomputer postfix/virtual[24983]: fatal: gethostbyname: Success
[20:42:11] <smesjz> ^IcE-bOy^: what's the link to the tuorial
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[20:43:36] <sasch> can help me ...
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[20:45:00] <^IcE-bOy^> smesjz, hummm now i don't remember it
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[20:45:13] <dererk[work]> Hi there :)
[20:45:18] <^IcE-bOy^> smesjz, cc doesn't workd
[20:45:24] <^IcE-bOy^> log file apperas like
[20:45:38] <^IcE-bOy^> Including /home/vmail//l0r0.com/javier/Maildir//.mailfilter
[20:45:38] <^IcE-bOy^> Date: Mon May 14 20:36:56 2007
[20:45:38] <^IcE-bOy^> From: "Javier Gonzalez Calleja" <javiergonzalezcalleja at gmail dot com>
[20:45:38] <^IcE-bOy^> Subj: Porbando
[20:45:38] <^IcE-bOy^> File: javiergonzalez at mail2web dot com
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[20:45:58] <^IcE-bOy^> but i don't get any mail into mail2web.com account
[20:47:47] <sasch> <^IcE-bOy^>  can help me with my postfix ??
[20:48:31] <^IcE-bOy^> sasch, i'm not an expert, but let me see it
[20:48:46] <sasch> this is my mail.log
[20:48:47] <sasch>  http://pastebin.ca/487889
[20:48:56] <sasch> i don't recevie any mail ...
[20:49:29] <Zerberus> sasch: fix your setup
[20:49:43] <^IcE-bOy^> update your .db
[20:49:56] <Zerberus> sasch: rebuild the aliases, remove the long deas ordb rbl
[20:50:04] <Zerberus> dead
[20:50:07] <sasch> alias is in mysql table
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[20:50:53] <^IcE-bOy^> smesjz, are you sure that cc should send the mail to another account ?
[20:51:04] <^IcE-bOy^> (to another EXTERNAL account)
[20:51:08] <sasch> this is my main.cf http://pastebin.ca/487911
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[20:53:36] <Zerberus> sasch: sorry, don't read this - postconf -n output is interesting
[20:54:59] <sasch> http://pastebin.ca/487920
[20:55:11] <sasch> <Zerberus> can helo me ??
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[20:55:45] <sasch> alias table is ok ....
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[20:56:22] <Zerberus> sasch: relays.ordb.org is dead since december 06
[20:57:48] <sasch> arning: transport virtual failure -- see a previous warning/fatal/panic logfile record for the problem description
[20:58:20] <sasch> my postfix don't recevie any e-mail ... i try to send me an e-mail and this is a error
[20:58:30] <sasch> excusme for my english i'm italia .... :-P
[20:58:53] <Zerberus> did the setup ever work?
[20:59:27] <sasch> o yes ....
[21:00:06] <sasch> but is 1-2 day that don't work ... and i don't install any update
[21:01:07] <sasch> but now don't work ... i try all but avery thing don't work ..
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[21:02:20] <sasch> May 14 21:00:09 papinicomputer postfix/qmgr[25085]: 859B2C329: to=<papini.sascha at papinifabio dot it>, relay=none, delay=7173, delays=7172/1.1/0/0, dsn=4.3.0, status=deferred (unknown mail transport error
[21:02:36] <sasch> what is unknown mail transport error ??????????
[21:03:04] <Zerberus> sasch: do the directories exist?
[21:04:47] <sasch> o yes
[21:04:56] <sasch> all exist and permission is ok
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[21:05:27] <sasch> all use uid e gid 5001
[21:05:34] <sasch> and in my /etc/passwd
[21:05:35] <sasch> exist
[21:05:36] <sasch> webmail:x:5001:5001::/home/webmail:/bin/false
[21:05:54] <Zerberus> no, i mean /var/spool/postfix/private for instance
[21:06:48] <sasch> http://pastebin.ca/487941
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[21:09:26] <Zerberus> sasch: what does "host papinicomputer.it" on the system itself tell you?
[21:10:57] <sasch> and the server response in telnet
[21:10:58] <sasch> http://pastebin.ca/487952
[21:11:26] <sasch> papinicomputer.it is my host and the server link .... i hosting my client web site
[21:11:32] <Zerberus> for me it identifies as "220 mail3.playnet.it (IMail 8.05 1295293-6) NT-ESMTP Server X1"
[21:11:57] <sasch> no mail.papinicomputer.it is in another places ...
[21:12:12] <Zerberus> but you configured your postfix to be that one!
[21:12:20] <sasch> papinicomputer.it is in another server 62.48.35.22
[21:12:33] <Zerberus> read your main.cf
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[21:12:56] <sasch> myhostname = papinicomputer.it
[21:12:56] <sasch> mydomain = papinicomputer.it
[21:13:01] <Zerberus> #
[21:13:01] <Zerberus> myhostname = mail.papinicomputer.it
[21:13:04] <sasch> now is correct ??
[21:13:08] <Zerberus> is what you have pasted
[21:13:14] <sasch> o yes
[21:13:31] <Zerberus> i don't know anything about the correct hostnames for you
[21:13:36] <Zerberus> you should know yourself
[21:14:42] <sasch> ok now say another error postfix/smtp[25354]: warning: connect to mysql server localhost: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[21:14:56] <Zerberus> well, trivial to understand
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[21:15:13] <Zerberus> make your mysql server running
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[21:15:29] <sasch> in master.cf
[21:15:29] <sasch> smtp      inet  n       -       n       -       -       smtpd
[21:15:29] <Zerberus> make sure postfix is permitted to connect through the unix socket
[21:15:33] <sasch> is correct ??
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[21:17:16] <sasch> http://pastebin.ca/487965
[21:18:12] <Zerberus> as said, make your mysql server responding
[21:18:31] <Zerberus> are you really the admin of this mailsystem?
[21:19:09] <sasch> no mysql is running ... i try to connect with postfix user and i can select all
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[21:19:25] <dazjorz> Hey
[21:19:39] <dazjorz> Is this the channel to ask help for dkimproxy?
[21:19:55] <Zerberus> daqqal: this is #postfix
[21:20:02] <dazjorz> I know, Zerberus
[21:20:18] <dazjorz> but dkimproxy is very related to postfix, and I need to set up dkimproxy in combination with Postfix
[21:20:24] <dazjorz> so I wondered if there was any howto available
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[21:20:41] <Zerberus> sasch: do a postmap query with mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql/mysql_virtual_alias_maps.cf
[21:21:06] <sasch> can post a query
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[21:22:11] * dazjorz will bbl
[21:22:31] <Zerberus> dazjorz: http://jason.long.name/dkimproxy/
[21:24:18] <sasch> <Zerberus> thanks for all !!! i must go out
[21:24:20] <sasch> bye
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[21:28:03] <MidBSD> What's the difference between virtual_alias_domains and virtual_mailbox_domains and why can't I use both (with the same domains in each)?
[21:29:28] <rob0> MidBSD, see the Address Class README. There must be no overlap, any specific domain must only be in one class.
[21:29:56] <MidBSD> Thanks for the pointer rob0
[21:30:07] <MidBSD> The logs say it's not a good idea
[21:31:21] <rob0> You can of course use virtual aliases (see virtual(5)) to redirect any addresses which are in a different class.
[21:31:45] <MidBSD> I think I'm getting lost in the terminology
[21:32:10] <MidBSD> I'm using virtual aliases and virtual mailboxes at the moment
[21:32:21] <rob0> !virtual
[21:32:21] <knoba> rob0: 'virtual' : a way to configure additional domains and user accounts (that do not need to exist in your /etc/passwd). See: http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html
[21:32:22] <MidBSD> I intend to switch to all virtual mailboxes
[21:32:27] <rob0> ^^ might help
[21:32:33] <MidBSD> I've read that
[21:32:40] <MidBSD> I've read the docs a few times over
[21:32:53] <MidBSD> I've got Postfix working just as I want it
[21:33:02] <rob0> Virtual mailboxes are delivered by virtual(8) delivery agent.
[21:33:02] <MidBSD> I'm only changing it now because Dovecot can't cope
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[21:33:39] <MidBSD> virtual(8), virtual(5), virtual, virtual_alias, virtual_mailbox
[21:33:43] <MidBSD> It's all very confusing :)
[21:34:11] <rob0> it is indeed, at first. Took me awhile to get it.
[21:34:15] <devdas> man section 8 is system admin commands, section 5 is config files
[21:34:32] <devdas> _maps are Postfix lookup tables
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[21:35:54] <MidBSD> I can use both virtual_alias_domains and virtual_mailbox_domains at the same time, right?
[21:36:03] <devdas> yes
[21:36:50] <MidBSD> If I have me at domain dot com and /domain.com/alice and there was a domain.co.uk that was an alias, would I not have to enter domain.co.uk into both files?
[21:37:16] <MidBSD> I.e. I had both unix accounts and non-unix accounts
[21:37:25] <MidBSD> And two domains domain.com and domain.co.uk
[21:37:47] <MidBSD> And wanted mail going to both domains to only end up in mail accounts for domain.com
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[21:42:23] <dazjorz> Zerberus: Yes, I had that
[21:42:34] <dazjorz> I wanted this: http://jason.long.name/dkimproxy/postfix-inbound-howto.html
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[22:10:43] <^IcE-bOy^> hi again
[22:10:53] <^IcE-bOy^> i'm having problems with maildrop, with "cc"
[22:11:02] <^IcE-bOy^> it doesn't send mail to another machine
[22:11:23] <^IcE-bOy^> only create a file with mail address like filename into /home/vmail
[22:11:26] <^IcE-bOy^> what can i do? thanks
[22:11:57] <^IcE-bOy^> i need to make a copy from mail to another account in another external machine
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[22:12:57] <m3t3or> hi
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[23:24:54] <ttf> thanks and bye...
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[23:41:02] <fholmes_laptop> How do I create a signing request for Postfix?  I want to purchase a SSL certificate to use for my tls auth.
[23:41:47] <Zerberus> use openssl
[23:42:10] <Zerberus> normally the trustcenters have a description of what they expect from customer side
[23:42:43] <fholmes_laptop> They only talk about using apache or whatever.
[23:42:44] <Signum> Even with command line examples usually.
[23:45:59] <Zerberus> fholmes_laptop: the certificate requests do not differ, you just have to ensure that the cert will be signed for the desired purpose
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[23:49:10] <fholmes_laptop> Cool.  I am almost finished getting it all setup.
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