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[00:08:15] <MidBSD> bbl - going to watch the results :)
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[00:12:12] <KenSentMe> Hi, i run postfix and try to use sasl to authenticate clients for sending mail through postfix. But i get the error that relay access is denied when i try to send mail. I use a correct username and password. This is my main.cf file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20536/. Anyone have a clue what goes wrong?
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[00:13:30] <aphexer> Postfix seems to be unable to write UTF8 emails to it's queue. Probably the locale or something like it is set wrongly. Anyone can help me figure out what exactly is wrong?
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[02:38:33] <jordi> heya
[03:06:53] <xpoint> problem ?
[03:06:56] <xpoint> :-)
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[03:59:09] <mjolnir40k> Hello!  Anyone here use AT&T/Yahoo DSL?
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[04:02:12] <robink> Stupid Gentoo
[04:02:16] <robink> (stupid robink, really)
[04:02:24] <robink> Clobbered my main.cf.
[04:02:55] <robink> Maybe I should try some tool besides dispatch-conf that I can't abuse
[04:03:16] <mjolnir40k> I've had good experiences with dispatch-conf, by and large
[04:03:35] <robink> The weird thing is I don't even remember dispatch-conf bringing up a replacement main.cf
[04:03:48] <robink> I'll stick with it for now as I know how to use it (at least somewhat)
[04:04:08] <mjolnir40k> That's not cool.  I think it has some intelligence about merging changes.
[04:04:18] <mjolnir40k> Do you know much about setting up relay?
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[04:05:57] <robink> Nope...I'd like to learn how to enable SMTP AUTH so my mailserver can relay for people outside my localnet who have accounts with passwords, though.
[04:07:19] <robink> oops, shoulda noticed the quit message
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[04:34:02] * rob0 (unfortunately) has experience with AT&T/Yahoo DSL (SBC territory.)
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[05:43:23] <luke-jr> Is there a way to debug virtual_alias_maps lookups?
[05:43:55] <luke-jr> having both a regexp: and mysql: listed appears to stop recursive lookups :(
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[05:49:19] <robink> Is there an equivelant to find_all that'll return an array of array indeces rather than an array of matches when searching an array?
[05:50:02] <robink> i.e. ["blonk", "bloink", "blonk", "foo"].find_all_index("blonk") would return [0, 2]
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[06:10:33] <robink> oh, oops, wrong chan
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[11:39:04] <Signum> Yeah, right, now I know why spam is getting through again here: debug: bayes: Not available for scanning, only 112 spam(s) in Bayes DB < 200
[11:39:19] <Signum> Not enough spam in my spam folder to detect spam. I need to get more spam to get less spam.
[11:42:01] <xpoint> Signum, idiot :-), na not that much, you can set bayes to run from 0 spam and 0 ham, if you want it :-)
[11:44:19] <xpoint> i will actuly set it to more hen 200, and let bayes be well trained before it gone hits, the highter the better here, but if you have a well clasified corpus of spam and ham you can use sa-learn to get it done fast
[11:45:38] <xpoint> dont just learn spam, learn as much of both to be sure it works good, if you learned 200 spam, make sure you do the same with 200 ham, and visa versa
[11:46:11] <Signum> It's not that easy. spamassasin has seen a million spam mails here already. but the older mails don't appear to get processed again. so my well-classified-corpus is useless.
[11:46:40] <xpoint> ?
[11:46:49] <xpoint> why do you belive that ?
[11:47:02] <Signum> I remember that I read about it.
[11:47:42] <xpoint> that is imho fuss like hell, since bayes is using old data when its running
[11:48:12] <Signum> I don't throw away old spam. I just sa-learn new spam mails every day. I need to check my bayes db
[11:48:26] <xpoint> bayes is just what makes dspam users happy
[11:49:14] <xpoint> sa-learn --dump magic
[11:49:31] <xpoint> see if you have around the same nham and nspam
[11:50:44] <Signum> http://paste.debian.net/27881 doesn't look good
[11:52:40] <Signum> And believe it or not... spamassassin has learned far more than 112 spam mails in its history
[11:53:44] <xpoint> ifplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::AutoLearnThreshold
[11:53:45] <xpoint>     bayes_auto_learn_threshold_nonspam  0.1
[11:53:45] <xpoint>     bayes_auto_learn_threshold_spam     12.0
[11:53:45] <xpoint> endif # Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::AutoLearnThreshold
[11:54:17] <xpoint> enable this plugin so you save some updates to bayes
[11:54:51] <xpoint> adjust the scores here so you result is nearly same number of nham and nspam
[11:54:56] <Signum> I can try that.
[11:55:19] <Signum> But unless there is some automatic expiration of mails/tokens going on I wonder why the database contains so few messages
[11:55:28] <xpoint> the scores here is default
[11:55:53] <xpoint> but i have them set to a wider range, to prevent bayes poisons
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[12:47:38] <sn00p-> hello i'm trying to send mail on mail server through outlook. I connect to the server using my login on outlook and I send a email to a domain.tld addy and I get back Relay Access Denied from recipients how do I fix this?
[12:48:27] <xpoint> sn00p-, setup smtp auth :-)
[12:48:38] <sn00p-> ?
[12:49:05] <xpoint> or make sure the client is in mynetworks
[12:49:39] <xpoint> but smtp auth will be more usefull
[12:49:47] <sn00p-> I use mysql as auth
[12:49:56] <xpoint> so ?
[12:50:07] <xpoint> tell postfix how to use it
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[13:03:52] <smesjz> hmm, is it possible with Amavis to quarantine mail but not deliver it? Amavis has the content category SPAMMY for mail that has a score > tag2 level and score < kill level. I want to put all that kind of mail in a special mailbox
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[13:23:49] <Glanzmann> How do I configure my postfix on my laptop that he always uses thomas at glanzmann dot de as sender address even as evelope sender address.
[13:24:01] <Glanzmann> May 13 13:21:08 thinkpad postfix/smtp[12800]: 7037B10F7D: host vger.kernel.org[209.132.176.167] said: 451 4.4.3 Hello [83.171.182.39], for your input: <sithglan at thinkpad dot glanzmann.de> policy analysis reports temporary DNS error with your source domain. (in reply to MAIL FROM command)
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[13:42:38] <MidBSD> I don't suppose anyone knows if it's possible to set multiple mail_locations in Dovecot?
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[13:44:35] <MidBSD> I've managed to get Postfix working exaclty as I want it but it appears Dovecot won't allow me to make use of this configuration
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[14:16:00] <sheldonh> does postfix have a plaintext map alternative to hash:, so i don't have to build the db files during beta testing?
[14:17:19] <Signum> sheldonh: just leave out the "hash:" and postfix expects plain text.
[14:17:28] <sheldonh> doh
[14:17:29] <smesjz> you don't need a hash, it's recommended for speed though
[14:17:30] <sheldonh> thanks :)
[14:18:33] <sheldonh> Signum: are you sure?  this is for smtp_sasl_password_maps
[14:18:49] <sheldonh> Signum: without hash:, i get fatal: open dictionary: expecting "type:name" form instead of "/etc/postfix/sasl/passwd"
[14:23:02] <Signum> sheldonh: I think you need to specify the absolute path so that postfix doesn't look for a type:
[14:23:14] <Signum> sheldonh: but I haven't tried that with smtp_sasl_password_maps yet
[14:27:28] <MidBSD> Signum - Got everything in Postfix working - thanks for your help :)
[14:27:58] <MidBSD> Also, how did Serbia win the Eurovision?
[14:28:04] <sheldonh> Signum: looks like i'll just live with postmapping a lot for now :)
[14:29:27] <smesjz> MidBSD: you're not gonna the (eastern)-european song festival serious..are you?
[14:30:36] <sheldonh> does postfix have a log grepper like exim's exigrep?
[14:31:25] <MidBSD> smesjz: I just like to watch in hope that someone makes a fool of themselves - unfortunately that's becomming less and less likely with it becoming so professional over the years.
[14:31:51] <MidBSD> I remember the years when some of them couldn't even sing in tune - those were the days
[14:32:43] <smesjz> well, I didn't watch it but I read the complaints afterwards about this 'political' voting.
[14:34:44] <MidBSD> I'm not so fussed about how they vote but if they are voting politically then Ireland certainly got a bum deal
[14:35:01] <Signum> MidBSD: great to hear you got it running.
[14:35:05] <MidBSD> Unless of course they had the 'double whammy' combination of bad music and bad foreign policy - lol
[14:35:12] <Signum> MidBSD: also glad to hear the eurovision is over... (I couldn't stand it)
[14:35:25] <smesjz> we didn't even make it to the finals ;)
[14:35:30] <smesjz> we = .nl
[14:35:34] <MidBSD> haha - Yeah, only about 4 songs I could listen to
[14:36:03] <Signum> smesjz: .ch was kicked out soon, too. although they had the godlike DJ Bobo and his brilliant musical talent. (boom, boom, boom, boom, boom)
[14:36:07] <MidBSD> Never mind, there's always next year to see if you can torment hundreds of millions all over europe
[14:36:29] * sheldonh checks out the add-on software section of the postfix site
[14:37:05] <smesjz> well, maybe there should be an Eastern-European and a Western European version ;)
[14:37:10] <MidBSD> Signum, you use Squirrel Mail or something for your MDA don't you?
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[14:37:31] <smesjz> squirrel isnt an MDA
[14:37:56] <Signum> MidBSD: I mainly use the postfix-built-in "virtual" MDA. but I forward mail for my own account to a local domain account and run procmail on it
[14:38:07] <MidBSD> Oh, it's Procmail you use
[14:38:12] <Signum> MidBSD: as a web-MUA I have squirrelmail and roundcube running
[14:38:14] * smesjz messing around with Dovecot's deliver and Maildrop
[14:38:25] <MidBSD> smesjz: Is Squirrelmail just a web frontend?
[14:38:32] <Signum> MidBSD: yes. a web-imap-client
[14:38:39] <smesjz> Signum: is roundcube still in development?
[14:38:44] <MidBSD> Oh, is Roundcube any good?
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[14:38:55] <Signum> smesjz: afaik yes.
[14:38:56] <MidBSD> It looks pretty good but is a little simplistic
[14:39:04] <Signum> MidBSD: it's visually appealing. ajax and stuff.
[14:39:27] <smesjz> yea, cant match up with Horde
[14:39:28] <Signum> MidBSD: sophisticated user don't use web MUAs anyway. I always wonder why there are so many gmail users (who don't use the pop3 interface).
[14:39:43] <MidBSD> smesjz: I don't suppose you've ever had the need to run Dovecot with multiple mail_locations?
[14:40:01] <MidBSD> Or even if it's possible
[14:40:02] <smesjz> MidBSD: nope, but Dovecot supports fallback stuff for that I assume
[14:40:30] <smesjz> you can have multiple auth XXX if I am right. But i've only virtual users
[14:40:55] <MidBSD> I've got Postfix delivering to me@localhost and domain.com/me
[14:41:18] <MidBSD> And I couldn't tell from the documentation if Dovecot could work with that setup
[14:41:35] <MidBSD> I'm happy to convert to all domain.com/me accounts but just wondered if this was possible in Dovecot
[14:42:05] <smesjz> dunno that either. Never mixed it like that
[14:42:27] <MidBSD> Yeah. If I don't find a solution soon I'll likely just convert all users to virtual
[14:43:07] <MidBSD> Such a shame as I managed to get Postfix setup just the way I had hoped
[14:44:08] <smesjz> well, post to the mailing list and ask it
[14:44:18] <smesjz> I bet Timo knows someway or another to fix it
[14:44:46] <devdas> Signum: becuse gmail works quite well for mailing lists
[14:44:49] <devdas> cause*
[14:45:06] <MidBSD> I'll give that a shot smesjz
[14:45:31] <Signum> devdas: how's that? do they provide a filter language?
[14:45:41] <MidBSD> Re: gMail - as well as that, it's convenient to not be tied down to a physical device when reading your email
[14:45:50] <devdas> Signum: the tag/thread thing
[14:45:56] <devdas> MidBSD: that too
[14:46:13] <devdas> Signum: the biggest benefit is the mail storage
[14:46:14] <MidBSD> That's one thing I like about webmail - so long as there's a web client around you can get all your email
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[14:46:25] <devdas> Yup
[14:46:36] <MidBSD> devdas - You must be sending some big files around if you need gigs of storage ;)
[14:46:37] <devdas> OTOH, as long as there is ssh ...
[14:46:43] <devdas> MidBSD: lots of mail
[14:46:48] <MidBSD> Remember, gMail is NOT a backup service! :p
[14:46:53] <Signum> devdas: pgp is an issue though. and I'd not trust them completely. google is nice though.
[14:47:13] <Signum> MidBSD: there was a user file system that used a "gmail backend" :)
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[14:47:24] <MidBSD> Yeah, I read about that
[14:47:41] <MidBSD> Sounds pretty sweet but I'll stick with my box at home for all my Internet needs :)
[14:47:48] <Signum> yep
[14:48:06] <MidBSD> I guess if you're even less skilled at setting computer stuff up than me, gMail is a good solution
[14:48:42] <Signum> MidBSD: there is a universe between your mental dimensions and the stupidity of my father-in-law... so cheer up. :)
[14:48:52] <MidBSD> :)
[14:49:36] * Signum keeps kicking his sa-learn around for not doing its job
[14:50:48] <devdas> heh
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[15:36:16] <MidBSD> Ok, another dumb question: When I specify a map of me at domain dot com me@localhost, how does postfix determine where me@localhost is? (Currently it's /home/me/maildir but where is this set?)
[15:37:39] <Signum> !home_mailbox
[15:37:40] <knoba> Signum: 'home_mailbox' : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional pathname of a mailbox file relative to a local(8) user's home directory.
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[15:40:56] <MidBSD> I only have a home_mailbox parameter in my main.cf.default and it's set to nothing
[15:41:18] <Signum> is that a local or virtual mailbox domain?
[15:41:56] <MidBSD> I do have "home_mailbox = Maildir/"
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[15:42:14] <Signum> all of a sudden? :)
[15:42:29] <MidBSD> This particular case is a local mailbox
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[15:42:46] <MidBSD> !home_mailbox
[15:42:47] <knoba> MidBSD: 'home_mailbox' : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional pathname of a mailbox file relative to a local(8) user's home directory.
[15:42:56] <MidBSD> Ah!
[15:42:58] <Signum> "postconf home_mailbox" gives you the current setting of the running postfix.
[15:43:01] <MidBSD> Ok :) *blush*
[15:43:29] <MidBSD> Oh, nice - thanks for that tip
[15:43:38] <Signum> knoba: well done
[15:43:39] <MidBSD> I used to grep everything
[15:44:27] <eltech> hello .. Im trying to install postix on OpenBSD and I have added the postfix user and group to the passwd and froup files but install continues to fail saying..: postfix-install: Error: "postfix" needs an entry in the passwd file.
[15:44:30] <eltech> any ideas?
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[15:45:11] <MidBSD> Oh, so it would actually be really easy to convert all acccounts to virtual by setting home_mailbox to "/var/spool/vmail/%d/%u"?
[15:45:32] <devdas> eltech: Uh?
[15:45:36] <devdas> Use the ports Luke!
[15:45:37] <MidBSD> Actually "/var/spool/vmail/%d/%u/"
[15:45:52] <devdas> MidBSD: home_mailbox is only for domain in $mydestination
[15:45:59] <eltech> devdas?
[15:46:00] <Signum> MidBSD: home_mailbox can't take variables. it's always the path under $HOME
[15:46:05] <devdas> virtual users need not have $HOME set
[15:46:10] <Signum> MidBSD: virtual domains are much better for you
[15:46:14] <devdas> eltech: install from ports
[15:46:14] <MidBSD> Ah, ok - it appears I have much to learn
[15:48:13] <eltech> devdas, id rather fix the problem :)
[15:48:13] <MidBSD> signum: Any way of synchronising system password to postfix passwords without using ldap or databases when using virtual domains?
[15:48:13] <devdas> eltech: then #openbsd
[15:48:13] <eltech> thnaks :)
[15:48:13] <devdas> eltech: What does 'id postfix' say?
[15:48:13] <eltech> id: postfix: No such user
[15:48:13] <eltech> hmm
[15:48:13] <eltech> strange
[15:48:18] <devdas> MidBSD: if you have system accounts, use mydestination and not virtual
[15:48:28] * devdas recommends LDAP if you need both
[15:49:32] <MidBSD> LDAP scares me at the moment - come on, devdas, you're talking to a person who doesn't know that home_mailbox won't take variables :)
[15:50:07] <MidBSD> devdas, also, I have system and virtual accounts
[15:50:31] <Signum> MidBSD: just use virtual accounts for the users that are not system users.
[15:50:58] <MidBSD> Signum, that's what I'm doing. I've got mail delivered to both my system accounts and virtual accounts
[15:51:10] <Signum> MidBSD: and forget about LDAP until you feel the urge of mayhem
[15:51:26] <MidBSD> I can't get the mail out of the virtual accounts at the moment though because I don't think Dovecot can handle it - writing to the mailing list right now
[15:51:51] <MidBSD> signum: I've wanted to use LDAP since I started using FreeBSD but it's looking a little complex even now
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[15:52:03] <daqqal> whats going on here
[15:52:06] <daqqal> how are things
[15:52:25] <MidBSD> Not much at the moment
[15:52:28] <Signum> daqqal: we are only discussing the eurovision song contest here. no postfix today
[15:52:36] <MidBSD> I'm just leaching knowledge from people :)
[15:53:05] <Signum> MidBSD: that reminds me... what was the postal address vor my invoice again? you surely read the channels EULA
[15:53:50] <daqqal> well i am doing some reading for now on remote auth for smtp for my users to relay, i might have questions later, you think you will be done with eurovision song contest by then?
[15:54:24] <Signum> daqqal: perhaps. try #postfix-non-eurovision then
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[15:56:45] <devdas> hehe
[15:56:54] <devdas> MidBSD: I know Courier can do both
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[16:00:56] <MidBSD> signum: You can send all invoices to MidBSD at dev/null dot com
[16:01:08] <MidBSD> But seriously, I think I owe you some beer or something
[16:01:31] <MidBSD> devdas: Don't say that, I've only JUST moved over to Postfix from Sendmail
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[16:02:11] <devdas> MidBSD: Courier-IMAP
[16:02:16] <devdas> not courier-mta
[16:02:28] <Signum> MidBSD: probably a bit too far away. ;)
[16:03:31] <MidBSD> I'll bbl folks to settle invoices and this curious Courier-IMAP thingie - got dinner to eat :)
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[17:07:21] <hkhan> hi everyone, umm i was just wondering, does anyone know if its possible to "dump" the main.cf file that the running postfix process process is using, even if the main.cf file is gone :'(
[17:07:49] <devdas> no
[17:08:09] <hkhan> :'( i see
[17:08:17] * hkhan should really start making backups :\
[17:10:08] <hkhan> i have a backup :o
[17:10:16] * hkhan hugs BackupPC
[17:24:24] <rob0> Sort of ... there's "postconf -n"
[17:24:52] <rob0> not the whole main.cf, but all the non-default known parameters.
[17:25:47] <hkhan> ^^ i tried that, but it says main.cf not found
[17:25:56] <rob0> ah.
[17:26:42] <rob0> you should shut Postfix down ASAP, because it might not be using the settings you expect.
[17:26:47] <hkhan> k
[17:27:02] <rob0> (Everything's back to defaults now.)
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[17:28:33] <hkhan> ahh
[17:29:27] <jduggan__> hi all, has anyone here used cami's policyd?
[17:29:32] <jduggan__> @ policyd.sourceforge.net
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[17:30:04] <jduggan__> i've posted to the list but got no answeres, got some technical questions regarding the database integer types
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[17:36:05] <rob0> I have considered it, never found the time to try.
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[17:37:15] * Zerberus is running it
[17:39:13] <jduggan__> Zerberus: hi, you using throttle feature?
[17:39:19] <jduggan__> in particular, throttle by sasl?
[17:39:32] <Zerberus> jduggan: no, just plain greylisting
[17:39:38] <jduggan__> aah ok
[17:39:41] <jduggan__> grr
[17:39:42] <jduggan__> :)
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[17:43:46] <mindcooker> anyone using postfix with dovecot and mysql?
[17:44:39] <Zerberus> mindcooker: you better ask specific questions
[17:44:48] <Zerberus> chances are better to get help
[17:44:59] <mindcooker> ok..:)
[17:45:46] <mindcooker> well..I'm getting password mismatch when using postfix + dovecot with mysql
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[17:47:26] <Zerberus> your postfix is compiled against dovecot's sasl implementation?
[17:47:27] <mindcooker> It might be a problem with the authentication method
[17:47:34] <mindcooker> but I dont know what to change
[17:47:35] <mindcooker> :/
[17:48:27] <Zerberus> how much did you debug?
[17:49:32] <mindcooker> ay 13 16:42:48 Info: auth(default): pam(tomane at antanhol dot blogdns.org,10.0.0.11): lookup service=dovecot
[17:49:33] <mindcooker> May 13 16:42:48 Info: auth(default): pam(tomane at antanhol dot blogdns.org,10.0.0.11): pam_authenticate() failed: authentication error
[17:49:33] <mindcooker> May 13 16:42:48 Info: auth-worker(default): sql(tomane at antanhol dot blogdns.org,10.0.0.11): query: SELECT password FROM mailbox WHERE username = 'tomane at antanhol dot blogdns.org'
[17:49:33] <mindcooker> May 13 16:42:48 Info: auth-worker(default): sql(tomane at antanhol dot blogdns.org,10.0.0.11): Password mismatch
[17:49:36] <mindcooker> May 13 16:42:48 Info: auth-worker(default): sql(tomane at antanhol dot blogdns.org,10.0.0.11): PLAIN(tomane) != '$1$37d763ea$PKo64RwGxvbWLbRzCQrY.1'
[17:49:39] <mindcooker> May 13 16:42:50 Info: auth(default): client out: FAIL   3       user=tomane at antanhol dot blogdns.org
[17:49:41] <mindcooker> May 13 16:43:01 Info: pop3-login: Disconnected: user=<tomane at antanhol dot blogdns.org>, method=PLAIN, rip=10.0.0.11, lip=10.0.0.54
[17:49:46] <mindcooker> ups..sorry
[17:49:51] <mindcooker> :/
[17:50:13] <hkhan> :) yay restored postfix :)
[17:50:44] <Zerberus> mindcooker: please use a paste service next time
[17:50:52] <mindcooker> yes...I know..sorry
[17:50:55] <mindcooker> my mistake
[17:51:13] <Zerberus> mindcooker: the type of password in your mysql db table does not match the type dovecot's sasl expects it
[17:51:51] <Zerberus> it should be documented which form is necessary: if plaintext or encrypted and if last encrypted by which function
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[18:05:52] <mindcooker> Zerberus, I tryed MD5, MD5-CRYPT
[18:05:58] <mindcooker> same error
[18:05:59] <mindcooker> :/
[18:07:25] <Zerberus> tried it unencrypted? as I read the word PLAIN in the logs pasted
[18:07:54] <mindcooker> I changed now
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[19:29:47] <toerkeium> hello people
[19:30:16] <Zerberus> no people, just bits'n bytes
[19:31:28] <toerkeium> I am installing policyd in my postfix machine. My postfix server acts as a spamfilter, forwarding all passed mail to the final recipient postfix machine. I have only configured relay domains, so it can accept mail for all domains in the box and policyd tells me to configure "reject_unlisted_recipient". This will reject all incoming mail right? since there is not a per recipient table in my box.. am I correct?
[19:32:02] <toerkeium> hello Zerberus's bits
[19:32:05] <toerkeium> :)
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[19:33:37] <toerkeium> what do you think? was my explanation understood?
[19:33:42] <toerkeium> I have s horrible english
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[19:52:53] <smesjz> Signum: i am using Dovecot's delivery agent now. Which doesn't need to query mysql for the homedir of the user
[19:56:47] <Zerberus> toerkeium: it is an awful setup to not have the gateway MTA know about ALL final recipients
[19:59:57] <sepski> Zerberus, and it's absolutly vital
[20:00:19] <sepski> Zerberus, it's the single most important thing.
[20:00:30] <sepski> or you become a backscattering host
[20:00:42] <Zerberus> yep
[20:09:47] <smesjz> hmm, I see a lot of spam slip thru. I guess SA let's about 30% spam pass, it used to be like 5%. Even sa-update didn't make much different
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[20:16:19] <Phil2> hi guys, is it possible to only allow the sending of mails to a certain domain from a certain IP?
[20:16:48] <Phil2> like, if I only wanted the smtpd at the ip 1.2.3.4 to be able to send mails to anything at thisdomain dot com
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[20:17:37] <Zerberus> Phil2: yes
[20:17:56] <Phil2> thanks Zerberus, how would I go about doing that?
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[20:19:12] <Zerberus> Phil2: smtp_restriction_classes
[20:21:20] <Phil2> hmmm
[20:21:21] <Phil2> I see
[20:21:25] <Phil2> let me try
[20:21:48] <Zerberus> smtpd_restriction_classes, sorry for the typo
[20:22:07] <Phil2> yeh, I got it
[20:22:14] <Phil2> reading about it now
[20:30:07] <Phil2> I have added...
[20:30:07] <Phil2> smtpd_restriction_classes = dnsblacklist
[20:30:08] <Phil2> dnsblacklist = permit_mynetworks,reject
[20:30:09] <Phil2> to my main.cf
[20:30:40] <smesjz> that looks ok
[20:30:44] <Phil2> and "check_recipient_access hash:/etc/postfix/recipient_access" to the smtpd_recipient_restrictions of this same file
[20:31:35] <Phil2> then, in /etc/postfix/recipient_access I have put... "mail at domain dot com dnsblacklist"
[20:31:47] <Phil2> where mail at domain dot com is the real address
[20:32:15] <Phil2> however now, no mail is coming through at all
[20:32:33] <smesjz> what's in the logs?
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[20:33:46] <Phil2> May 13 19:32:53 home postfix/smtpd[11344]: fatal: open database /etc/postfix/recipient_access.db: No such file or directory
[20:33:47] <Phil2> May 13 19:32:54 home postfix/master[11196]: warning: process /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd pid 11344 exit status 1
[20:33:47] <Phil2> May 13 19:32:54 home postfix/master[11196]: warning: /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd: bad command startup -- throttling
[20:33:48] <Phil2> hmmm
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[20:35:17] <smesjz> postmap /etc/postfix/recipient_access
[20:35:19] <Zerberus> did you make the hashed map?
[20:36:49] <Phil2> ah, that did it
[20:36:58] <Phil2> mail is coming through normally now
[20:37:11] <Phil2> I guess I should test it to the address in the map
[20:39:55] <Phil2> Recipient address rejected:
[20:39:56] <Phil2> Access denied)
[20:40:00] <Phil2> seems ok
[20:40:30] <Phil2> let me try from an address in mynetworks
[20:43:15] <Phil2> works great, thanks guys :)
[20:43:29] <smesjz> hooray for Phil2
[20:43:45] <Phil2> one final question... If I wanted to allow IPs to mail the address which aren't in mynetworks, how would I do so?
[20:44:47] <smesjz> http://www.postfix.org/RESTRICTION_CLASS_README.html#internal <-- maybe that's of any use?
[20:45:32] <smesjz> and use cidr notation
[20:46:13] <smesjz> like check_recipient_access cidr:/etc/postfix/client_cidr_access
[20:46:43] <smesjz> cidr allows IPs and networks notations (like /16)
[20:47:42] <Phil2> hmmm
[20:47:54] <Phil2> and would the client_cidr_access just contain like
[20:47:56] <Phil2> 1.2.3.4/32
[20:48:01] <Phil2> 2.3.4.5/32
[20:48:02] <smesjz> I use it for example to whitelist the ranges where ISPs have their mailservers in (usually a /24) so I can safely reject 'bigisp.nl' using check_client_access
[20:48:03] <Phil2> for example?
[20:48:35] <smesjz> the /32 can be omitted though
[20:48:55] <smesjz> but the cidr only makes sense with check_client_access I think
[20:48:56] <Phil2> ah, it assumes /32 if it's not specified?
[20:49:01] <smesjz> indeed
[20:49:02] <Phil2> ok
[20:49:42] <smesjz> also read -> http://www.postfix.org/access.5.html
[20:50:31] <Phil2> so, just to confirm
[20:50:32] <Phil2> dnsblacklist = permit_mynetworks,check_client_access=cidr:/etc/postfix/client_cidr_access,reject
[20:50:42] <smesjz> nah
[20:50:46] <smesjz> err
[20:50:58] <smesjz> that might work if you leave out the =
[20:50:59] <Signum> smesjz: how is dovecot's MDA getting the path to the maildir?
[20:51:11] <Phil2> ah, yes
[20:51:14] * Phil2 tries
[20:51:34] <smesjz> Signum: joe at domain dot tld resolves to /var/vmail/$domain/$user . I use a fixed format and configged a template in Dovecot
[20:52:21] <Signum> smesjz: so dovecot splits up user and domain part and allows you to use $variables? great!
[20:53:15] <Phil2> nope smesjz, it's still denied when it's setup like the above ^^
[20:57:55] <smesjz> Signum: yea it does. Actually it uses %n (user part in user@domain) and %d (domain) or just %u (full username)
[20:58:20] <smesjz> so that's nice. But the Sieve based delivery agent isn't as nice as maildrop's...logging wise that is ;)
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[20:58:27] <smesjz> but it does the job
[20:59:14] <Phil2> May 13 19:56:12 home postfix/smtpd[12333]: warning: cidr map /etc/postfix/client_cidr_access, line 1: no lookup result: skipping this rule
[20:59:19] <Phil2> is what the logs say
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[21:01:27] <[miles]> evening guys
[21:02:15] <[miles]> I'm writing some C code, and I'm looking for a lib that would allow me to parse a RFC2822 message, and get the body, add / remove headers etc.. does anyone know of one please?
[21:07:52] <smesjz> Phil2: sorry, i gotta go
[21:07:58] <Phil2> ok
[21:07:59] <Phil2> thanks
[21:09:36] <pickcoder> [miles]: libmailutils
[21:10:02] <pickcoder> what O/S are you on
[21:11:53] <[miles]> sorry back now
[21:11:56] <[miles]> went to smoke
[21:12:00] <[miles]> pickcoder: hi btw
[21:12:04] <[miles]> I'm on Linux
[21:12:09] <pickcoder> which distro?
[21:12:21] <[miles]> Kubuntu
[21:12:33] <[miles]> I've just installed that lib btw
[21:12:44] <pickcoder> apt-get install libmailutils-dev
[21:12:48] <[miles]> nod
[21:12:55] <pickcoder> http://www.gnu.org/software/mailutils/
[21:13:15] <[miles]> pickcoder: It's for a project similar to Pyzor / Razor
[21:13:16] <toerkeium> guys, I have installed policyd with the intention to use smtp sender throttling.. should I list the check_policy_service inet:127.0.0.1:10031 below smtpd_sender_restrictions ?
[21:13:31] <[miles]> pickcoder: u used that lib personally?
[21:13:35] <toerkeium> or smtpd_recipient_restrictions?
[21:13:40] <pickcoder> [miles]: no
[21:13:48] <[miles]> ah ok
[21:13:52] <pickcoder> the only C lib project I've worked with was Xerces
[21:14:01] <pickcoder> apart from glibc
[21:14:25] <[miles]> ok, thanks pickcoder . I'll go take a look at the specs
[21:14:28] <[miles]> many thanks btw
[21:14:38] <pickcoder> [miles]: no prob. good luck
[21:14:43] <[miles]> cheers
[21:14:47] <pickcoder> toerkeium: it should be under sender
[21:15:04] <pickcoder> gah
[21:15:05] <pickcoder> never mind
[21:15:10] <pickcoder> recipient
[21:15:14] <pickcoder> I always get them backwards
[21:15:30] <toerkeium> nice.. coz it's not stated in the policyd documentation.. I assume it's obviuos
[21:15:46] <[miles]> pickcoder: http://www.gnu.org/software/mailutils/manual/mailutils.html#Libraries I think that will do the job nicely :-)
[21:16:19] <toerkeium> thank you pickcoder
[21:16:30] <pickcoder> [miles]: looks like it
[21:17:29] <pickcoder> toerkeium: welcome
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[21:22:50] <[miles]> lol
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[22:33:15] <sadmin> hi all
[22:33:22] <sadmin> am new to postfix
[22:33:35] <sadmin> i want to have anti spam mail server
[22:33:42] <sadmin> any good howto
[22:34:35] <smesjz> install amavisd
[22:35:30] <higuita> sadmin: there are many howtos in the net, just follow one of then that does what you want
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[22:36:10] <sadmin> can u send me a good basic howto
[22:36:21] <sadmin> so that i can understand well
[22:36:46] <higuita> no, i will not search on google for you :)
[22:37:00] <higuita> just search for postfix+spamassassin+amavisd+clamav
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[22:42:15] <smesjz> hehe, if you google for 'amavisd-new tutorial' my tutorial turns up at #3. But it describes an alternative for those who don't want to use Amavis ;)
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