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[00:08:09] <[sr]> hi guys
[00:08:14] <[sr]> tell me something
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[00:08:22] <[sr]> when i send an email with the emails in BCC
[00:08:32] <[sr]> the destination, get the info:
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[00:08:48] <[sr]> undisclose recipients;:"myserver.domain.com"
[00:09:01] <[sr]> how can i remove the part of the server name? using postfix 2.4.0
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[00:09:51] <daMaestro> so, how do I release mail on a backup MX listed as: "delivery temporarily suspended" ?
[00:10:05] <daMaestro> i've tried postsuper -H ALL && postqueue -f
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[00:30:15] <CSWL-Dreadfull> anyone can help please ? getting address resolver failure and mails trying to get to @mail.mydomain.. instead of @mydomain .. double checked my main.cf and mydestination is set to $mydomain and mydomain is set corectly
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[02:07:48] <mordaunt> postfix/qmgr warning: connect to transport proxy: No such file or directory
[02:07:59] <mordaunt> what does that mean? o_O
[02:08:13] <mordaunt> mail is getting delivered but i keep seeing the warning in the logs
[02:10:07] <mordaunt> postfix/sendmail[72645]: fatal: No recipient addresses found in message header
[02:11:59] <mordaunt> Those two are always together. Maybe it's something from a logger or something using sendmail that's causing it? .. any ideas?
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[03:09:09] <jetole> hey all
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[03:14:11] <jetole> I have a question, probably more of a microsoft hotmail problem then a postfix one but I will ask, I have postfix running on a rhel 4 box atm and it's configured to relay mail everywhere for trusted users, it has tested well for recipients @ google, yahoo, and my own comcast but I cannot seem to send mail to hotmail at the moment, does anyone know anything about this? why it may be happening or where I might look, and I have also do
[03:14:11] <jetole> ne a fair share of RTFM'ing and going over the config file before I asked ;)
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[03:19:25] <Motoko-chan> Is Hotmail dropping it, or refusing it?
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[03:23:13] <sigmounte> hello all ! :)
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[03:24:23] <sigmounte> can i use postfix to add signature to all my outgoing mails ?
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[03:25:07] <Motoko-chan> Not directly, but yes.
[03:25:36] <sigmounte> Motoko-chan, thanks for answer , and with what can i do this ?
[03:26:45] <Motoko-chan> Use altermime.
[03:27:11] <sigmounte> this is the most easy and unstressfull for postfix i suppose ?
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[03:27:17] <Motoko-chan> http://www.postfix-book.com/downloads.html
[03:27:24] <Motoko-chan> There is a script on that page.
[03:27:30] <sigmounte> thanks
[03:34:32] <sigmounte> i altermime not too heavy to use with postfix ?
[03:37:01] <Motoko-chan> I don't know, I don't use it.
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[03:51:45] <jetole> Motoko-chan, I am sorry but someone in another room helped me, or has started to
[03:52:53] <jetole> hotmail is accepting it, and from the packet dump I just said they are saying sender ok, the postfix log seems to be fair, but the hotmail user is not getting the mail, now I just wrote a MX record for this domain so that in the event that hotmail is sending back info I will get a chance to see what they are saying
[03:53:05] <jetole> http://rafb.net/p/ceBvax38.html  <<-- is the latter part of the packet dump
[03:53:23] <Motoko-chan> Hotmail has a habit of losing mail.
[03:53:50] <Motoko-chan> Even from properly set up systems.
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[04:04:16] <rob0> A packet dump wouldn't tell you anything that the postfix/smtp doesn't. Hotmail accepts it and discards, or if the recipient is lucky, puts it in a spam quarantine.
[04:04:52] <Motoko-chan> AOL is more reliable than Hotmail with mail delivery.
[04:05:34] <rob0> AOL is really one of the best postmasters in the business.
[04:06:34] <Motoko-chan> Nah.
[04:06:37] <Motoko-chan> My company is.
[04:06:49] <Motoko-chan> But by volume, AOL probably is.
[04:06:54] <Motoko-chan> Google might be soon.
[04:07:17] <rob0> I was going to add, "Present company excepted," but that always sounds so insincere.
[04:07:19] <rob0> :)
[04:07:25] <Motoko-chan> haha
[04:08:07] <rob0> No, IMO gmail sucks. Their abuse handling is as bad as any, and they're often listed in Spamcop.
[04:10:22] <Motoko-chan> Like AOL
[04:10:36] <Motoko-chan> AOL's "feedback loop" is a good idea...
[04:10:51] <Motoko-chan> Along with their random blocking of whole blocks of IPs
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[04:32:45] <jetole> Motoko-chan, I have tried a dozen times and it still loses it, I am waiting for this damn MX record to show up on my DNS though so I can see if microsoft is responding
[04:33:07] <Motoko-chan> They usually don't.
[04:33:18] * Motoko-chan runs a system with a few thousand users
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[07:22:48] <lkthomas> hey guys
[07:23:11] <lkthomas> does anyone got a successful config which could send email to hotmail without throwing into junk box ?
[07:23:18] <lkthomas> a lot of our user is using hotmail
[07:23:47] <lkthomas> and all of the email that we sent is in their junk mail box
[07:25:28] <Motoko-chan> Nothing can fix their spam filters.
[07:25:35] <Motoko-chan> Have the user whitelist you.
[07:26:57] <lkthomas> I know
[07:27:12] <lkthomas> that's why I am asking anyone who did the process to make it working ?
[07:27:13] <sep> lkthomas, hotmais uses senderid in it's filters. so having a SPF record give you a higer chance atleast
[07:27:27] <lkthomas> sep, we got valid spf already
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[07:28:09] <lkthomas> never like M$ service
[07:28:37] <lkthomas> gmail was blocked by hotmail before as well
[07:28:46] <lkthomas> and no idea how they did to let M$ add into whitelist
[07:31:33] <Fr0zen_> body_checks_size_limit = 51200
[07:31:36] <Fr0zen_> what is that exactly?
[07:31:56] <f3ew> lkthomas postmaster at hotmail dot com
[07:33:47] <sep> Fr0zen_, how much of a body is inspected for body checks
[07:33:56] <f3ew> ALL OF IT
[07:33:59] <f3ew> oops
[07:34:02] <sep> to avoid running expencive (cpu wise) regekses on attachments
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[07:42:50] <rstory> hi.. anyone know how to handle a wildcard mx for a virtual domain? '.example.com' doesn't seem to work for virtual_mailbox_domains. (Q 4.5 from http://www.postfix-jp.info/origdocs/QandA-en.html suggests that format for $mydestination and virtual maps.)
[07:43:18] <rstory> postconf -n at http://rafb.net/p/0JoY3e65.html
[07:45:22] <rstory> i'm off to bed now, will idle and check logs for answers tomorrow..
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[07:50:26] <CaptainMorgan> I'm getting a fatal message after a successful install and config, running Ubuntu 6.10 and I get the message: fatal: the postfix mail service is not running... fail! What am I missing?
[07:52:55] <f3ew> start it?
[07:59:59] <CaptainMorgan> f3ew, I do sudo /etc/init.d/postfix start and it successfully starts.. then I try reload it and it still says fail
[08:00:03] <CaptainMorgan> not running..
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[08:01:35] <lkthomas> LOL f3ew
[08:02:21] <sep> CaptainMorgan, read the logs
[08:07:11] <CaptainMorgan> sep I assume /var/log/postfix?
[08:08:45] <sep> CaptainMorgan, it's your system to assume about. i have mine in /var/log/mail.log
[08:08:58] <CaptainMorgan> sep, my mail.log is empty
[08:11:09] <sep> that's why i said read the logs, since i can't assume that you log to mail.log.
[08:11:22] <sep> only you can know :)
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[08:21:49] <z0mbicat> hi there, i configuring postfix together with dspam, (dspam transport : pipe) but postfix uses this transport before resolving aliases. So it pollutes my dspam spool with a lot of garbage. How could i run dspam as last check just before delivering to maildir?
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[08:36:37] <Motoko-chan> You could try using it as a content_filter
[08:36:42] <Motoko-chan> That happens post-queue
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[09:21:15] <d0uglas> Hi. Want to get postfix to relay mail from clients of one subnet through the server of a different host/ip range entirely to any destinations.. anyone good with postfix's main.cf?
[09:23:08] <f3ew> relayhost?
[09:23:43] <d0uglas> Huh. okay, relayhost
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[09:24:17] <d0uglas> just figured out the cidr /specifier ipv4 thing i think
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[09:50:17] <Dreadfull> anyone can help please ? getting address resolver failure and mails trying to get to @mail.mydomain.. instead of @mydomain .. double checked my main.cf and mydestination is set to $mydomain and mydomain is set corectly
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[10:28:00] <lejatorn> hi all
[10:30:38] <lejatorn> I have a question: I would like mails addressed to "user" to be rewritten to "user@$myorigin" as it is specified in the docs but it is not what's happening here; instead it is rewritten to "user@$hostname". What am I doing wrong?
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[10:31:24] <lejatorn> and yes, I meant $hostname, not $myhostname.
[10:35:32] <sysmonk> lejatorn: postconf mydomain
[10:35:35] <sysmonk> what does it show?
[10:36:09] <lejatorn> sysmonk: it matches with myorigin
[10:37:19] <lejatorn> sysmonk: postconf mydomain and postconf myorigin both return what I'd like them to return.
[10:40:57] <sysmonk> lejatorn: and what is postconf myorigin ?
[10:41:53] <lejatorn> sysmonk: same thing as postconf mydomain: ipgp.jussieu.fr
[10:42:13] <sysmonk> lejatorn: just pastebin a postconf -n
[10:45:07] <lejatorn> bah pastebin's crapping on me :/
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[10:48:24] <lejatorn> hmm ok, I've solved this problem with masquerading anyway :)
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[10:58:17] <stony>  /join #asterisk
[10:58:30] <stony> hi
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[11:02:23] <robert83a2> hello everyone, I have user at domain dot com , and I was asked that for a period of time every mail that user at domain dot com receives should also be recieved by user2 at domain dot com , how do I do this ? .forward is not ok because it wont leave a copy of the mail for that user, is there a forwarding method that leaves a copy of mail for the original user ?
[11:04:44] <f3ew> recipient_bcc_maps
[11:08:13] <robert83a2> f3ew : recipient_bcc_maps works with virtual domain hosting as well ? in my case both user and user2 are in same domain.com.
[11:08:27] <robert83a2> f3ew : thank you very-very-very much for your kind help
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[11:13:48] <robert83a2> f3ew : another question, since this is a live e-mail server and I'm not 100% sure this is how it works ? in main.cf recipient_bcc_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/recipient_bcc, in recipient_bcc , user at domain dot com user2 at domain dot com in one line. restart postfix and that is that.
[11:16:03] <f3ew> yes
[11:16:37] <robert83a2> f3ew : thank you
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[11:42:47] <lkthomas> f3ew, does your server be able to send email to hotmail without list as junk ?
[11:48:34] <sysmonk> had a lot of fun with hotmail
[11:48:54] <sysmonk> have one server wich was never listed in blacklists and never had any problems
[11:49:03] <sysmonk> it uses greylisting, amavisd + clamav+ spamassassin
[11:49:11] <sysmonk> domainkeys and dkim, and stuff like that
[11:49:30] <sysmonk> and hotmail puts that mail in junk folder when i send it from webmail or thunderbird
[11:49:43] <sysmonk> BUT!!! if i use outlook with the same configuration, hotmail puts it in inbox;)
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[11:59:40] <wedge> sysmonk: Hotmail sucks. Face it.
[11:59:54] <sysmonk> wedge: i know that
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[12:11:30] <f3ew> lkthomas yes
[12:11:59] <lkthomas> f3ew, how could you do that ?
[12:12:22] <lkthomas> LOL sysmonk
[12:12:23] <lkthomas> fuck that
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[12:12:38] <lkthomas> sysmonk, you are not serious are you ?
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[12:15:23] <sysmonk> lkthomas: i am serious.
[12:15:37] <sysmonk> lkthomas: i had so much trouble with hotmail .... and nothing helps
[12:15:45] <lkthomas> so there is no way to get around without using outlook ?
[12:15:48] <sysmonk> lkthomas: it's good that hotmail even get's your mail to junk folder
[12:15:55] <sysmonk> it often doesn't even get into the junk folder
[12:16:00] <sysmonk> they 'eat' the emails
[12:16:04] <lkthomas> it does
[12:16:11] <lkthomas> after I send couple more email
[12:16:14] <sysmonk> lkthomas: it's not about the outlook
[12:16:15] <lkthomas> hotmail eat those mail
[12:16:19] <sysmonk> hotmail has some stupid antispam policy
[12:16:33] <lkthomas> sender-id ?
[12:16:38] <sysmonk> lkthomas: i'm using it too
[12:16:45] <sysmonk> domain-keys, spf ...
[12:16:48] <sysmonk> nothing helped
[12:16:50] <lkthomas> I am using spf already
[12:16:53] <lkthomas> nothign helps
[12:17:01] <sysmonk> but from the other server, wich is configured the same way, emails get to hotmail without problems
[12:17:12] <sysmonk> it's just unpredictable
[12:17:13] <sysmonk> ;)
[12:17:27] <lkthomas> wondering how does f3ew get around with it
[12:17:34] <lkthomas> f3ew, any suggestion for both of us ?
[12:17:39] <f3ew> lkthomas, we send them lots of mail
[12:17:40] <sysmonk> oh, maybe the other server works fine, because it has about 100 outlook users behind it
[12:17:55] <lkthomas> f3ew, send who ? hotmail support ?
[12:18:28] <f3ew> lkthomas Hotmail users
[12:18:35] <f3ew> we host a few thousand domains
[12:19:32] <lkthomas> f3ew, but before that, your server also suffer this problem as well, right ?
[12:19:41] <f3ew> lkthomas, not that I know
[12:19:57] <lkthomas> so is it depends on amount or what
[12:21:09] <sysmonk> yeah, i have a server wich is the main outgoing SMTP server for few thousands domains, and hotmail accepts the emails from it too
[12:21:31] <sysmonk> anyway, i never saw any documentation on how to make hotmail accept the emails ;/
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[12:22:47] <f3ew> sysmonk, that's because there is none
[12:25:21] <sysmonk> they have their 'postmaster page' with soem info
[12:25:24] <sysmonk> but it doesn't help
[12:27:41] <lkthomas> sysmonk, LOL
[12:27:45] <lkthomas> blackarts
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[13:06:48] <jMCg> Hello boys and girls.
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[13:10:30] <k1ckn1ck> i know this is nothing to do with postfix but where would i find the location of the webpages for squirrelmail including the plug in folder
[13:13:02] <f3ew> See your Apache config
[13:13:33] <k1ckn1ck> i have looked in the httpd.conf file
[13:13:41] <k1ckn1ck> and i'm unable to access the conf.d file
[13:14:11] <f3ew> why not?
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[13:15:04] <jMCg> I'm having trouble compiling Postfix [on Solaris 10 with gcc 3.4.3] -- here's a paste of make makefiles and a failing make http://pastie.caboo.se/57648
[13:15:15] <k1ckn1ck> Warning: conf.d is not a regular file;
[13:15:29] <jMCg> k1ckn1ck: conf.d is usually a directory.
[13:16:23] <k1ckn1ck> ooops :$
[13:17:35] <k1ckn1ck> ty found it
[13:18:35] <k1ckn1ck> just a question u wud be able to answer, i use dir to view files and folders within debian is there somethign that would show folders and files so u can actually see a difference, i think i used to use something called ls
[13:18:40] <jMCg> I don't quite see why the compile would fail [I took a swift look at the .c file and the functionality according the the comments doesn't quite explain the error .. ]
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[13:23:05] <jMCg> ARGH.
[13:23:13] <jMCg> Found the error.
[13:25:16] <jMCg> Correction. I though I had found the error.
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[14:08:24] <wazquis> Is it possible to make postfix use multiple IP's when sending mails (Depending on the from domain)? xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx when @domain1.tld and xxx.xxx.xxx.xxy when @domain2.tld
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[14:11:25] <stellina> hi people
[14:12:33] <stellina> I'm using postfix with mailscanner. I saw today that my hold queue increased to 20k mails when normally has few mails
[14:13:09] <stellina> I searched my mailscanner and postfix logs but I couln't find what happened and this queue increased.
[14:13:33] <stellina> can you recommend me another way to troubleshoot this?
[14:16:15] <jduggan_> hey all, anyone know how to escalate filtered messages from messagelabs? It appears we're on a blacklist with them, they filter messages to domains they host with a 553, their site says check any rbl lists etc, which we're not blacklisted on
[14:16:20] <Zaw> run 'mailq'
[14:16:27] <Zaw> stellina, that is
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[14:19:57] <stellina> Zaw: well ok I have a lot messages from postmaster
[14:21:59] <jduggan_> nobody have any advise regarding messagelabs??
[14:24:45] <f3ew> what about messagelabs?
[14:25:00] <f3ew> oh, write to their postmaster or abuse address
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[14:26:48] <jduggan_> oh right, i trawled through their site, they suggested sending the email by fax heh
[14:26:54] <jduggan_> we're not on any blacklists other than some chinese looking one thats listed on dnsstuff.com
[14:26:57] <jduggan_> which prints red
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[14:27:57] <jduggan_> surely they'd filter postmaster@  from our IP also? :)
[14:28:15] <f3ew> not that I know
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[14:33:26] <jduggan_> have you ever been blacklisted by them?
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[14:35:11] <f3ew> no
[14:35:18] <f3ew> <=== privileged
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[14:45:13] <jduggan_> oh?
[14:45:19] <jduggan_> you know someone working there?
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[14:47:31] <f3ew> <messagelabs> if so, can you get the sender to resend complete message to support at abuse dot messagelabs.net
[14:47:35] <f3ew> there you go
[14:48:41] <pebblestone> I telneted into my smtp server, orginally it will display something like "220 smtp.example.com ESMTP Postfix", and I could talk to the server, but how it doesn't display that line and the server won't respond to my command, what's the problem?
[14:49:37] <pebblestone> how can I find the problem?
[14:49:45] <f3ew> see your logs
[14:50:10] <jduggan_> f3ew: thanks
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[14:53:49] <pebblestone> I got "warning: process /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd pid 11550 exit status 1" and "arning: /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd: bad command startup -- throttling " oops
[14:53:55] <pebblestone> in my log file
[14:55:33] <f3ew> what's the fatal error?
[14:56:11] <pebblestone> f3ew: fatal argument when opening aliases.db
[14:57:06] <f3ew> run newaliases
[14:57:07] <pebblestone> f3ew: sorry, opening db aliases.db error: invalid argument
[14:57:13] <pebblestone> ok
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[15:00:51] <pebblestone> if I don't specify reject_unauth_destination, postfix could send email to any address, am I correct?
[15:01:46] <f3ew> It can do that anyway
[15:01:51] <pebblestone> oops, the error log told me to at least specify one of five...
[15:04:21] <pebblestone> "fatal: parameter "smtpd_recipient_restrictions": specify at least one working instance of: check_relay_domains, reject_unauth_destination, reject, defer or defer_if_permit"     hmmm, which one is less restrictive?
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[15:10:26] <rstory> hi.. anyone know how to handle a wildcard mx for a virtual domain? '.example.com' doesn't seem to work for virtual_mailbox_domains. (Q 4.5 from http://www.postfix-jp.info/origdocs/QandA-en.html suggests that format for $mydestination and virtual maps.)
[15:10:39] <rstory> my postconf -n is at http://rafb.net/p/0JoY3e65.html
[15:13:54] <Roobarb> rstory: wildcarding a domain like that is basically inviting spammers to flood your server(s)
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[15:17:07] <rstory> Roobarb: i'm no talking about wildcard addresses (*@domain), but wildcard mx records / domains (joe at * dot domain)
[15:17:07] <Roobarb> rstory: I know
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[15:18:10] <rstory> well, I'll cross that bridge when I get there...
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[15:23:03] <ma3x> how do i delete all messagas in the postfix queue?
[15:23:09] <stellina> I need some help. I see some mail with the mailq command but when I try to their content using postcat -v 9FD3126E768 I get
[15:23:10] <stellina> postcat: fatal: open 9FD3126E768: No such file or directory
[15:23:24] <stellina> but this id is still in queue
[15:23:41] <dj-fu> heh
[15:23:45] <ma3x> heeeeelp
[15:23:45] <dj-fu> go to the directory it's in
[15:23:48] <dj-fu> and do postcat
[15:23:51] <ma3x> me?
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[15:23:59] <dj-fu> postcat just formats a file, it doesn't automagically read it out of the queue and then format it
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[15:24:09] <stellina> dj-fu: thanx! it worked
[15:24:12] <dj-fu> so you'll have to cd over to /var/spool/postfix/deferred/ or whatever.
[15:24:27] <stellina> I found it it was in the /var/spool/maildrop
[15:24:33] <dj-fu> ;]
[15:24:44] <stellina> postcat doesn't search in all the queues?
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[15:25:13] <dj-fu> no
[15:25:22] <dj-fu> it formats a postfix format queued message
[15:25:25] <dj-fu> into plaintext
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[15:27:02] <f3ew> postcat -q <id>
[15:27:20] <ma3x> how do I erase the postqueue?
[15:28:15] <dj-fu> oh there ya go
[15:28:16] <nightswim> postsuper
[15:28:21] <dj-fu> didn't think you could make it read from the queue f3ew, ta
[15:28:45] <ma3x> postsuper didnt remove them
[15:28:55] <f3ew> postsuper -d <id>
[15:28:58] <f3ew> postsuper -d ALL
[15:29:29] <ma3x> yeah
[15:29:30] <ma3x> ogod
[15:29:44] <ma3x> postfix's the best
[15:29:47] <ma3x> exim sucks!!!!!
[15:30:50] <jduggan_> f3ew: do they generally filter on IP or sending domain?
[15:30:57] <jduggan_> they being messagelabs
[15:31:09] <f3ew> 553 is user customised
[15:31:13] <jduggan_> i mean on a per-domain basis
[15:31:26] <f3ew> both
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[15:31:56] <jduggan_> ok so it's likely now that we're blacklisted for every domain whos MX points to messagelabs?
[15:34:17] <f3ew> jduggan, depends
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[15:34:32] <f3ew> it can also be per recipient domain customisation
[15:35:29] <stellina> I want to have a domain alias for a domain located in my ldap. My ldap doesn't give me such an attribute. Can I do this from aliases file somehow?
[15:40:26] <lunaphyte_> what do you mean by "domain alias"?  you can use whichever attribute you want, as long as your ldap query is properly constructed.
[15:41:27] <stellina> for example I have the domain test.com. I would like all the users under test.com to be able to receive mail also as user at mail dot test.com
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[15:45:31] <dj-fu> !mydomain
[15:45:31] <knoba> dj-fu: 'mydomain' : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The internet domain name of this mail system. The default is to use $myhostname minus the first component. $mydomain is used as a default value for many other configuration parameters.
[15:46:06] <dj-fu> you can quite easily configure postfix to receive mail for mail.test.com
[15:47:22] <stellina> dj-fu: it already receive mail for test.com. How ca I tell postfix that user at mail dot test.com goes to user at test dot com and so on?
[15:50:10] <dj-fu> !virtual_alias_maps
[15:50:11] <knoba> dj-fu: 'virtual_alias_maps' : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional lookup tables that alias specific mail addresses or domains to other local or remote address. The table format and lookups are documented in virtual(5).
[15:50:48] <dj-fu> Is probably the best way, although I'm sure there are easier (set mydomain to mail.test.com, test.com)
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[15:50:56] <dj-fu> not the best way to go about doing it, though
[15:51:06] <stellina> well I have virtual domains
[15:51:29] <dj-fu> so take a read of man 5 virtual
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[15:52:52] <stellina> I don't use virtual as transport, I use maildrop
[15:53:16] <pebblestone> could anybody tell me postfix will block some specific email addresses. If it does, where can I see the list?
[15:53:54] <pebblestone> I'm frustrated because I could send to any user under one of my domain except two...
[15:54:44] <f3ew> not by default
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[15:55:34] <pebblestone> i see.
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[15:59:28] * jMCg doesn't give up hope yet..
[15:59:36] <jMCg> 13:15 < jMCg> I'm having trouble compiling Postfix [on Solaris 10 with gcc 3.4.3] -- here's a paste of make makefiles and a failing make  http://pastie.caboo.se/57648
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[16:06:06] <nightswim> did you look at the lines where the errors occur?
[16:13:45] <jMCg> nightswim: I did. And I changed 'foo' to \"foo and
[16:14:00] <jMCg> nightswim: I did. And I changed 'foo' to \"foo\" and I'm still getting the same result
[16:14:40] <absum> where should i ask questions about sasl2 authentication?
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[16:21:53] <J_P> hi all
[16:21:59] <J_P> are there postfix for windows ?
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[16:23:19] <rob0> I think that port is due to be announced on April 1.
[16:23:35] <J_P> heeheh
[16:24:24] <rob0> It's not possible to do it natively, but I think I have heard of it working in Cygwin.
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[16:25:02] <blu2> hi all, I am having a problem sending emails from my ubuntu 6.06 laptop. my username is is different from my ISP account name. How do I get postfix to send my ISP username instead of my laptop login name?
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[16:25:30] <rob0> you could also use one of many virtual machine implementations, to run a Unix-like OS.
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[16:26:24] <rob0> blu2: SASL_README.html#client_sasl
[16:28:32] <blu2> thanks, I am reading this now....
[16:28:53] <J_P> rob0: ok
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[16:41:38] <blu2> hmm.....sorry to bother you again, but I must be doing something wrong....still seeing invalid mail address error message....
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[16:41:48] <LinuxLoaf> How do I set up postfix to where if a user isn't on that server, it routes the mail to a secondary server, so I can migrate to a new server 1 user at a time?
[16:42:19] <LinuxLoaf> Or is there a howto someone can point me to?
[16:44:21] <rob0> transport_maps can be per user. See transport(5) and the relevant part in postconf(5).
[16:45:03] <[miles]> afternoon
[16:45:27] <[miles]> guys can I get postfix to write to vhost log files for independant mail logs?
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[16:48:08] <nullboy> i'd like to setup my own linux based email server for a internet domain. Are there any specific options I need to be aware of when I go to register the domain name? This is just for a personal project
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[16:49:02] <[miles]> nullboy: you have knowledge of how mail works, or is it a learning project?
[16:49:25] <nullboy> [miles]: i have some experience with email servers but this will be a big learnign project for me
[16:49:51] <[miles]> nullboy: mmm
[16:50:10] <[miles]> nullboy: well, if you have a domain of your own, first thing to ensure you understand is DNS
[16:50:20] <nullboy> [miles]: i'm good on DNS
[16:50:31] <[miles]> nullboy: get your MX registers to your mail server... and read the postfix manual
[16:50:42] <[miles]> nullboy: it all depends how far you want to push it ...
[16:51:00] <nullboy> [miles]: i really just want to be the mail server for my domain name
[16:51:11] <[miles]> nullboy: like, do you want to just recieve mail.. you want to send also, authentificate, have SSL/TLS, imap anti-spam...
[16:51:47] <[miles]> nullboy: yeah, but you need to decided what components your "mail server" will consist of
[16:51:53] <nullboy> [miles]: for starters, basic send and receive will work and from there i will implement for features as i learn
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[16:52:01] <nullboy> for=more
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[16:52:44] <nullboy> [miles]: so for now, i really should just figure out what IP i want to use for the mail server and get an MX record entered for that IP
[16:53:03] <nullboy> then rtfm ;)
[16:53:18] <[miles]> nullboy: well. depends if you are going to loose mail if you immediatly change the MX
[16:53:25] <nullboy> [miles]: nope
[16:53:26] <[miles]> nullboy: if it's just a test domain, then yeah
[16:53:35] <nullboy> [miles]: yeah, pure test domain for learning
[16:54:19] <[miles]> ok
[16:54:25] <[miles]> well, the basics..
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[16:54:32] <[miles]> you should be able to get running pretty simply..
[16:54:38] <[miles]> set your mx up correctly
[16:54:45] <[miles]> and have postfix recieve mail
[16:54:53] <[miles]> however, don't go leaving yourself open to relaying
[16:55:16] <nullboy> [miles]: oh, i know that part so far
[16:55:31] <[miles]> k
[16:55:36] <[miles]> well, rtfm
[16:55:36] <[miles]> :P
[16:55:37] <[miles]> jeje
[16:55:38] <[miles]> sorry
[16:55:43] <[miles]> but it's a great manual
[16:55:46] <nullboy> [miles]: thanks for your insight though
[16:55:58] <[miles]> right, I must try to find if I can create the virtual mail logs
[16:55:59] <[miles]> ciao
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[17:17:06] <blu2> rob0, finally figured this out...I needed to do postfix masquerade on outgoing email address
[17:17:55] <blu2> I appreciate you getting me started toward the solution.....have a great day.....thanks
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[17:35:51] <rstory> for a virtual domain with a catchall address in a virtual_alias_maps, how can I REJECT mail to a specific address? 'spam@domain REJECT' just tries to deliver to REJECT on the localhost...
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[17:53:53] <knoxy> hi all.. I use postfix, mysql and maildrop to delivery messages.. Maildrop write a Maildir file with the messages for all users.. why? I try to install courier-lib-auth and courier-maildrop.. On debian sarge it works.. but post upgrade to etch the maildrop dont work..
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[18:13:22] <absum> could anyone please direct me to a tutorial on how to set up the simplest possible mail server on ubuntu?
[18:13:56] <devdas> !basic
[18:13:56] <knoba> devdas: 'basic' : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
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[18:47:21] <pebblestone> hi, I got problems sending emails to hotmail. I read the log and the stat was sent but I couldn't find it in either hotmail's inbox or spam mails. Does anybody had similar situation?
[18:47:40] <seekwill> Check your logs to see if the message bounced
[18:47:47] <djs_2_6> Well, I am still having problems with one domain's mail not getting through.  Add to that, I just get a "we're sorry, but we have blocked your email server" notice from gmail!
[18:48:07] <seekwill> djs_2_6: Read the link Gmail sent to you
[18:49:23] <pebblestone> seekwill: no, no log shows it was bounced.
[18:49:26] <djs_2_6> I did, not very useful at all.  I have been sending back and forth to my own gmail email address and one other gmail address.  Abuse is a rediculous assumption.
[18:49:58] <djs_2_6> And from everything that I can tell, my server is not being used by unauthorized users at all...
[18:50:21] <seekwill> djs_2_6: So Gmail gave you a 4xx or 5xx error?
[18:50:58] <seekwill> pebblestone: Sorry, I don't use postfix that much, so I can't really help any more than that :(
[18:51:03] <djs_2_6> 550-5.7.1
[18:51:22] <seekwill> djs_2_6: Yeah, Gmail sent me the same thing in my testing. You don't think it's abuse, but their server does.
[18:51:38] <djs_2_6> pebblestone, go more verbose for emails to/from domain hotmail.com...
[18:51:51] <pebblestone> the status returned by hotmail was "status=sent (250 Queued mail for delivery)"
[18:52:17] <pebblestone> djs_2_6: how to turn on verbose mode?
[18:53:06] <djs_2_6> http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#debug_peer_list
[18:53:20] <pebblestone> thanks
[18:53:24] <djs_2_6> np
[18:53:37] <seekwill> Well, if Hotmail gave you a 250, then it's not your problem...
[18:54:01] <djs_2_6> Sounds like it is getting eaten by their queue...
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[19:04:41] <sigmounte> Hello , i'm using altermime and postfix , is their any wait for postfix to use altermine only in outgoing mails ? thanks
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[19:09:25] <devdas> define outgoing
[19:12:10] <madclicker> how can i make postfix not to check usernames for existance?
[19:14:09] <sigmounte> devdas, where do i define outgoing ?
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[19:17:26] <madclicker> how can i make postfix not to check usernames for existance?
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[19:23:12] <ianng> Anyone know who one should contact regarding issues with signing up for the postfix mailing lists?
[19:25:25] <devdas> Wietse Venema
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[19:28:25] <red9012> Hi, my mails end up in spam filter.  anyone knows how I can fix it?
[19:28:26] <madclicker> "Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table" i do not want postfix to check for user existence . Can anyone help?
[19:28:26] <devdas> local_recipient_maps =
[19:29:42] <madclicker> devdas, thank you very much for your input
[19:34:17] <knoxy> hi all.. I use postfix, mysql and maildrop to delivery messages.. Maildrop write a Maildir file with the messages for all users.. why? I try to install courier-lib-auth and courier-maildrop.. On debian sarge it works.. but post upgrade to etch the maildrop dont work..
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[19:41:59] <sigmounte> devdas where do i setup postfix to filter only outgoing message (altermine config)
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[19:45:16] <devdas> what is an outgoing message?
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[19:45:20] <cryptnix> hmm
[19:45:28] <cryptnix> postfix/sendmail[31374]: fatal: Recipient addresses must be specified on the command line or via the -t option
[19:45:30] * cryptnix is confused ;)
[19:45:49] <cryptnix> one sec ... me google
[19:46:46] <cryptnix> Yeah, not really finding anything for this ... any one have any ideas/pointers
[19:46:55] <sigmounte> devdas a message coming from one of my users (over the internet) using port 25 to relais his email
[19:47:49] <madclicker> is there a way for postfix being a satelite mailserver do a "reject_unverified_recipient" for an exchange server?
[19:48:38] <devdas> sigmounte: man 5 access, see FILTER
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[19:51:03] <sigmounte> thanks
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[20:12:20] <MarkH_UK> hi all
[20:12:31] <cryptnix> hi
[20:12:34] <MarkH_UK> anyone had any problems with the new amavisd-new? I'm getting the following:
[20:12:35] <MarkH_UK> DENIED ACCESS from IP 195.62.11.37, policy bank ''
[20:12:54] <MarkH_UK> the new setup doesnt use amavisd.conf
[20:13:01] <MarkH_UK> so i don't know what's going on
[20:13:59] <MarkH_UK> any ideas anyone?
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[20:28:06] <cryptnix> MarkH_UK: its better just to continue reading items on google or something ... bunch of bandwidth eaters here
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[20:35:59] <Fr0zen_> does postfix use the main.cf.default ?
[20:36:15] <Fr0zen_> i don't have a message_size_limit in my main.cf, but it's in main.cf.default. Would it juse use the .default?
[20:46:15] <ashd> Fr0zen_: i think that the stuff in .default is just the default settings - if you want to change defaults - add the statement to your .cf and reload
[20:52:39] <Fr0zen_> so the defaults do get followed?
[20:52:45] <Fr0zen_> if their not defined in main.cf
[20:52:46] <Fr0zen_> ?
[21:07:43] <Signum> correct
[21:07:55] <Signum> You can also check the defaults with "postconf -d"
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[21:26:54] <xpoint> Fr0zen_, postconf -d > main.cf.defaults
[21:27:13] <xpoint> Fr0zen_, postconf -n > main.cf.myconf
[21:27:27] <Fr0zen_> ah k
[21:27:35] <Fr0zen_> im having an issue with postfix and amavisd
[21:27:39] <Fr0zen_> postfix isn't rejecting emails over it's limit
[21:27:43] <Fr0zen_> over it's max email size limit
[21:27:50] <Fr0zen_> it's set in the default's
[21:27:54] <xpoint> diff -u main.cf.defaults main.cf.myconf > main.cf.diff
[21:28:11] <xpoint> now read the main.cf.diff :)))
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[21:30:06] <xpoint> Fr0zen_, a good tip is to print main.cf.defaults in A1 paper size and understand why i need ever to change one single ting about it
[21:30:42] <xpoint> Fr0zen_, the less changed the better it works
[21:31:24] <Fr0zen_> i havnt changd anything in it
[21:31:32] <Fr0zen_> im using 100% defaults
[21:31:33] <xpoint> :-)
[21:31:38] <Fr0zen_> postfix is accepting 50mb emails
[21:31:39] <Fr0zen_> which is wrong
[21:32:18] <xpoint> Fr0zen_, which distro is it ?
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[21:32:40] <Fr0zen_> freebsd
[21:32:41] <Fr0zen_> 6.1
[21:33:00] <xpoint> Fr0zen_, you are saying defaults will accept 50M mailsize ?
[21:33:14] <Fr0zen_> yep
[21:33:21] <Fr0zen_> the default is set to stop at 10.x something mb
[21:33:26] <Fr0zen_> but it's accepting 25-30mb emails
[21:33:29] <Fr0zen_> causing amavisd to fuck up
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[21:36:10] <xpoint> postconf -d | grep limit
[21:36:22] <xpoint> postconf -n | grep limit
[21:36:25] <xpoint> diff it
[21:36:55] <xpoint> i belive the problem you are having is that you have set it highter somewhere
[21:36:59] <Fr0zen_> main.cf doesnt have a body limit
[21:37:00] <Fr0zen_> i dont
[21:37:20] <Fr0zen_> http://code.bulix.org/jbvo17-40308?raw
[21:37:25] <Fr0zen_> those are the errors im seeing
[21:39:51] <xpoint> okay postfix accept here a mail under 10M, and your amavis complain of missing 3M unpack path to work on it
[21:40:23] <xpoint> amavis user is limited in your setup
[21:40:23] <Fr0zen_> so amavisd is out of space?
[21:40:24] <Fr0zen_> or what
[21:40:47] <xpoint> check unix/linux/bsd limits for amavis
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[21:40:58] <blinx> hi
[21:41:02] <Fr0zen_> it has no limits
[21:41:11] <Fr0zen_> why is it crashing?
[21:41:17] <Fr0zen_> it shouldnt be scanning those emaisl at all
[21:41:31] <blinx> I want to change my mailserver's authentification to md5
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[21:41:42] <xpoint> Fr0zen_, Out of memory during
[21:41:52] <xpoint> Fr0zen_, this is a limit
[21:41:57] <Fr0zen_> it's sing up 512mb of memory to scan a 15mb email
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[21:42:05] <Fr0zen_> freebsd's memeory limit per process is 512mb
[21:42:07] <xpoint> Fr0zen_, no
[21:42:10] <blinx> now in the courierauthdaemonrc is MYSQL_CLEAR_PWFIELD password
[21:42:44] <blinx> can I change that easy to #MYSQL_CRYPT_PWFIELD
[21:42:47] <blinx> ?
[21:43:23] <Fr0zen_> xpoint what you mean?
[21:44:51] <xpoint> your freebsd unix user is limited to much on how much ram it will have access to, its below 3M for this user, and this is either amavisd.conf or in freebsd limit for amavis this is in
[21:46:04] <Fr0zen_> how do you know it's 3m
[21:46:10] <Fr0zen_> it's using up over 500mb
[21:46:22] <Fr0zen_> when it starts scanning IT SHOULDNT EVEN SCAN LARGE ATTACHTMENTS!!
[21:47:17] <xpoint> blinx, yes this is safe, you can have both clear password and crypted in sql at the same time, but you have to select just one of them in courier-authlib
[21:47:59] <blinx> xpoint: ok
[21:48:10] <xpoint> Fr0zen_, check limit in amavisd.conf
[21:49:05] <Fr0zen_> no such limits there xpoint
[21:50:00] <xpoint> the limit is in sql since if i remember you are using maia mailguard ?
[21:50:31] <Fr0zen_> ya
[21:50:40] <Fr0zen_> 10mbit is the limit is the packetsize limit
[21:50:56] <xpoint> disable the sql lookups in amvisd.conf then, just for testing
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[21:52:46] <blinx> xpoint: which type should the mysql field should have?
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[21:52:58] <blinx> varchar?
[21:53:05] <madclicker> is there a way for postfix being a satelite mailserver do a "reject_unverified_recipient" for an exchange server?
[21:53:47] <pickcoder> madclicker: can you setup the exchange server to offer LDAP to nsswitch?
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[21:54:31] <xpoint> Fr0zen_, $MAX_EXPANSION_QOUTA < check this value in amavisd.conf
[21:55:25] <xpoint> blinx, depends on your needs
[21:55:41] <blinx> xpoint: md5
[21:55:43] <blinx> sum
[21:56:26] <xpoint> blinx, md5 is md5 olso in sql
[21:56:33] <pickcoder> how can I use a transport config so that I can transport by a destination e-mail and dump the e-mail to a file
[21:56:44] <pickcoder> I've seen some pipe services done, but most of them are specific utilities
[21:57:59] <blinx> xpoint: I can't see it ;-)
[21:58:08] <xpoint> madclicker, relay_recipient_maps = ldap:/....
[21:58:35] <blinx> xpoint: there is no type of md5 in the list
[21:59:06] <xpoint> blinx, change to postgresql then :)
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[22:02:03] <xpoint> blinx, crypt is md5, or is it password
[22:02:25] <Fr0zen_> <xpoint> Fr0zen_, $MAX_EXPANSION_QOUTA < check this value in amavisd.conf
[22:02:28] <Fr0zen_> what does that value do?
[22:02:49] <Fr0zen_> i dont have it
[22:03:13] <xpoint> it sets a max for how high you accept a lha or zip archive to be when unpacked
[22:03:37] <Fr0zen_> this wasnt a zip attachtment, i dont have that value anyway
[22:03:56] <xpoint> the defaults is 3M, change it :-)
[22:04:17] <xpoint> in my conf its 300M
[22:04:30] <xpoint> big diffrents
[22:04:49] <Fr0zen_> i dont think it has anything to do with my problem
[22:05:05] <Fr0zen_> my problem is with postfix accepting huge attachtments like that, when it's config says not to.
[22:05:12] <xpoint> ask maia why this default so low when postfix accept mails at 10M
[22:05:38] <Fr0zen_> why is postfix accepting 50mb attachtments?
[22:05:41] <Fr0zen_> when it's default is 10
[22:05:46] <xpoint> Fr0zen_, you posted a log where the mail was under 10M
[22:06:18] <Fr0zen_> i have a bunch of others that are 20-50mb
[22:06:45] <xpoint> ok, this is multiparts that combine to over 10M
[22:07:52] <xpoint> i can't remember how amavisd handle multiparts here right now, but this is a problem in generic
[22:09:01] <Fr0zen_> well why doesnt postfix reject large mail, like it's set to?
[22:09:20] <xpoint> postfix can't reject multiparts
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[22:11:39] <Fr0zen_> ah
[22:11:52] <xpoint> Fr0zen_, if you want to make postfix reject multiparts you have to reject mime in headers
[22:12:03] <madclicker> pickcoder, isn't there a way to do a test to the exchange and see if it bounces ?
[22:12:20] <xpoint> Fr0zen_, its not very praktical to do so
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[22:12:46] <madclicker> xpoint, what about exchange aliases and so forth?
[22:13:39] <xpoint> madclicker, i dont use exchange, but postfix just need to query a ldap server and it can be done
[22:14:23] <xpoint> madclicker, if the exchange server is with very static user base one can make a hash of users on postfix
[22:14:45] <pickcoder> madclicker: ldap is the best route.. either directly using postfix or indirectly using nsswitch with ldap as a user table
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[22:21:13] <alexIdoia> hey can I ask a question about squirrelmail ? I have moved from a server to another and all the subfolder that my users had created are not working I got: ERROR: Could not complete request.
[22:21:14] <alexIdoia> Query: SELECT "INBOX.Angleterre"
[22:21:14] <alexIdoia> Reason Given: Mailbox does not exist, or must be subscribed to.
[22:22:04] <alexIdoia> what I don't understand is that I have moved everything, so Mailbox exists. Where should they be exactly ?
[22:23:36] <xpoint> alexIdoia, you miss some hidded files
[22:23:49] <alexIdoia> dot files ?
[22:23:52] <xpoint> yes
[22:24:58] <alexIdoia> ah you right
[22:25:00] <alexIdoia> thanks
[22:25:34] <xpoint> np
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[22:31:41] <madclicker> pickcoder, what about user aliases?
[22:36:38] <xpoint> madclicker, make a ldap query for that aswell
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[22:50:05] <madclicker> k , thank you
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[23:30:40] <[sellout]> status=deferred (unknown mail transport error) ... Any ideas?
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[23:54:20] <pickcoder> if I specify a static user and group id for virtuals, the files written should contain those perms
[23:54:45] <pickcoder> however, when I try to write to a samba mount postfix gives operation not permitted
[23:54:59] <pickcoder> it creates mail dirs up to the point of writing the mail file
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[23:55:44] <pickcoder> I can touch a file manually as the uid/gid
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[23:55:51] <pickcoder> postfix apparently can't





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