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[02:31:46] <Snoopotic> damn hi
[02:31:51] <Snoopotic> I have a problem.
[02:32:02] <Snoopotic> I updated mysql
[02:32:27] <Snoopotic> and now I alway get: postfix/trivial-rewrite[14384]: warning: connect to mysql server 127.0.0.1: Can't connect to MySQL server on '127.0.0.1' (111)
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[02:33:14] <jakehow> anyone doing funky sorts of smtp authentication?  like over http or anything like that?
[02:34:45] <rob0> jakehow: I used to use openvpn and have the VPN IP address in $mynetworks. But the Right Way to do it is with SMTP AUTH (SASL), which is how I set them up now.
[02:35:03] <rob0> If you're using Dovecot for IMAP, it's very easy.
[02:35:25] <jakehow> rob0: so there are different auth modules that i can plug in to sasl to check the authentication?
[02:35:32] <jakehow> more than just passwd files and mysql
[02:36:10] <rob0> I think so, but I just use passwd.
[02:36:36] <jakehow> k, im thinkin about authenticating w/ a custom application we have over http, might be too slow anyway though
[02:37:23] <rob0> it wouldn't be too hard to set that up. Just have the HTTP app update a check_client_access map.
[02:39:51] <Snoopotic> someone wants to help me? I can give needed logfiles... I dont see anything... :/
[02:40:30] <Snoopotic> postfix/trivial-rewrite[14409]: fatal: mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_domains.cf(0,100): table lookup problem <--- this error is related to that "cont connect" problem....
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[04:11:32] <Snoopotic> I got IT!
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[06:36:46] <lkthomas> hey guys
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[06:37:01] <lkthomas> is there have anyone successful to config sender-id / SPF record at all ?
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[08:18:23] <s0n1> hi
[08:18:36] <s0n1> somone use bounce postfix in portugues here?
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[11:32:09] <renato> hi anybody in here working on this lausy saturday morning?
[11:34:09] <renato> I am setting up a mail server for multiple domains using postfix/postgres/postfixadmin I got that far that I can receive mail on my domains, but I do not seem to be able to send any. I had set this server up in the past and unfortunately I do n ot remember very well. every time I send a mail I get: "Apr 28 11:29:49 server postfix/smtpd[5164]: warning: sysdevel[192.168.2.3]: SASL PLAIN authentication failed: authentication failure
[11:34:10] <renato> "
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[11:35:18] <renato> firt of all is there away (I know there was one but I do not remember) to try the autentication by hand? I receive mail so I assume the authdeamon is working properly
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[11:56:53] <renato> in relation to the problem above, I see on auth.log: Apr 28 14:20:36 server postfix/smtpd[4827]: _sasl_plugin_load failed on sasl_auxprop_plug_init for plugin: sql
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[12:24:39] <twb> Quick, stupid question: after editing /etc/postfix/generic what, if anything, do I need to do to update generic.db?
[12:25:17] <smesjz> postmap /etc/postfix/generic
[12:26:31] <twb> And the same for /etc/aliases.db?
[12:27:17] <smesjz> you can run 'newaliases' or use postmap as well
[12:27:23] <twb> Thanks.
[12:48:50] <renato> hi there guys, couls somebody give me a hand, I am getting lost, I seem not to be able to do sasl autentication using authdeamon,I get "Apr 28 12:45:56 server postfix/smtpd[4846]: warning: sysdevel[192.168.2.3]: SASL PLAIN authentication failed: authentication failure"
[12:50:28] <renato> this is when I try to reply to a mail I received into my mail server. To retreive it  I had to log in to that serer using the same username and password I am using for replying to it
[12:50:52] <Signum> renato: did you install the auxprop plugin for sql?
[12:51:05] <smesjz> moin Signum
[12:51:12] <Signum> smesjz: mahlzeit :)
[12:51:48] <Signum> renato: e.g. on debian there is a libsasl2-modules-sql package you need to have installed
[12:52:19] <renato> Signum, in my smtpd.conf I have: pwcheck_method: authdaemond
[12:52:42] <renato> so I guess that is not needed ?
[12:53:09] <renato> I am using an ubuntu server that is debian derived
[12:53:56] <renato> on the other hand I am finding on the auth.log: Apr 28 12:51:38 server postfix/smtpd[4867]: _sasl_plugin_load failed on sasl_auxprop_plug_init for plugin: sql
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[12:54:01] <renato> so I am a bit confused
[12:55:00] <renato> Signum: I have anyway verified that package was indeed installed
[12:56:36] <renato> already installed I meant
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[12:57:02] <Signum> renato: courier-authlib is installed?
[12:57:21] <Signum> renato: and courier-authlib-mysql (assumed that you want to use mysql)
[12:58:13] <renato> I am using postgres but I guess they are installed as I can receive my mail already and I can use authdeamon for logging in for retrieving my mail, I seem to fail just when I am sending mail and trying to log in using the same method
[12:58:24] <renato> me <- confused and frustrated
[13:01:01] <Signum> renato: how does your /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf look like?
[13:01:46] <renato> what was pastebin address? (so that I can paste it there)
[13:05:06] <renato>  http://paste.uni.cc/14886
[13:10:15] <Signum> renato: I'm not sure /var/run/courier/authdaemon/socket is the right path.
[13:10:52] <Signum> renato: Ubuntu (like Debian) is likely running chrooted.
[13:10:55] <renato> I am running ubuntu edgy which is more or less a debian, what path would you use instead?
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[13:12:13] <renato> I had to configure postfix NOT to run chrooted, could not make it work, unless I made a mistake, what service in master.cf is responsable for this part of mail delivery?
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[13:16:02] <Signum> renato: try http://www.howtoforge.com/virtual_postfix_mysql_quota_courier_ubuntu_edgy
[13:16:13] <renato> Signum there was a method (I forgot) to manually invoke authdeamon to check manually a password, do you remember how?
[13:17:06] <smesjz> authtest
[13:17:29] <smesjz> authtest -s imap foobar at domain dot tld passwd
[13:17:53] <smesjz> sometimes it's called courierauthtest
[13:19:14] <renato> I get Authentication succeeded hence authdeamond is working just fine
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[13:40:10] <volkant> Hi, i want to backup a postfix server, but I don`t want to do it like a "mx backup", i want the backup server work as the main server. When the main server goes down for any reason, main server will be switched of and backup server will be plugged in to the lan. What should I copy(accounts, postfix configuraitons?) to the backup server from the main server and how?
[13:43:36] <smesjz> ok, so the main server needs to replicate all mail to the backup server?
[13:44:03] <smesjz> it would be easy if you have a NAS or mail stored on an NFS enabled fileserver
[13:44:33] <smesjz> using rsync it can take forever with a lot of small files
[13:45:39] <smesjz> you can keep /etc/postfix/* in sync on both servers if you store the config in a CVS/Subversion repository
[13:46:28] <smesjz> so if the main server goes down you can do a 'svn/cvs up' on the backup server and you're ready to go, config wise
[13:46:51] <smesjz> regarding the accounts, if you use ldap or sql backend you can enable replication
[13:47:09] <smesjz> if you don't have a standalone sql/ldap server of course
[13:48:17] <volkant> I don`t have a sql or ldap server unfortunately, accounts are stored locally in the server
[13:49:24] <smesjz> locally as in system users from /etc/passwd?
[13:49:31] <smesjz> like /home/user/Maildir ?
[13:50:06] <volkant>   /home/user/Maildir
[13:50:25] <smesjz> ack
[13:51:06] <smesjz> you can setup filesystem replication...but can't you sync the mailboxes every day or so?
[13:51:10] <smesjz> rather than realtime?
[13:52:19] <Signum> volkant: I'd probably use unison to keep the config files in sync and use some NAS as smesjz proposed, too.
[13:55:02] <volkant> Thanks for the answers, what should I do if I don`t need a replication of emails. Because I will only use the backup server in case of an emergency. The main server will be on again as soon as possible.
[13:55:04] <volkant> Is it enough just to copy the user accounts?
[13:56:14] <smesjz> nah, it doesn't make sense then.
[13:56:59] <smesjz> because users can login, but see an empty mailbox
[13:57:12] <smesjz> so that's really confusing as they might think that their mail is lost
[13:57:35] <smesjz> do you backup /home actually?
[13:58:40] <volkant> Yes you are right but it would not be a problem for the users to see a empty mailbox for a short time. I won`t be able to construct a NAS or NFS, that`s why I am asking this
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[13:59:00] <volkant> Yes I backup /home
[13:59:55] <smesjz> ok, but I wouldn't even bother about the backserver then
[14:00:26] <smesjz> +up
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[14:01:22] <volkant> OK, Thanks again
[14:02:35] <smesjz> just have a message on the website with something like: 'mailserver is down, engineers are working on it. Progress reports follow'
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[14:49:51] <smesjz> hmm
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[14:57:19] <berkel> hi
[14:58:15] <berkel> i have a problem from 3 days....i installed spamassassin with postfix....it works correctly....and the spam mail were sent in INBOX with tag *SPAM*.....but how can i sent it directly to spam folder?
[14:59:06] <Signum> berkel: local or virtual users?
[14:59:10] <berkel> local
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[14:59:26] <berkel> i tried with procmail but don't work
[14:59:34] <berkel> postfix don't use it.
[15:00:10] <Signum> berkel: what is "postconf mailbox_command" saying?
[15:00:33] <berkel> now mailbox_command = /usr/bin/spamc | procmail -a "$EXTENSION"
[15:00:43] <berkel> but i tested mailbox_command = /usr/bin/procmail -a $EXTENSION too
[15:01:21] <Signum> berkel: try putting "|/usr/bin/procmail" into your ~/.forward file
[15:01:42] <berkel> ok...but i tried yet
[15:04:56] <berkel> don't works...it don't use procmail...can i paste few lines of log?
[15:06:44] <berkel> http://pastebin.ca/462657
[15:09:41] <Zeit|awy> I hate those spamers.. delayed 80568 seconds by postgrey
[15:11:24] <berkel> ?
[15:11:42] <berkel> Signum: do you less my log?
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[15:14:46] <smesjz> hmm, i hate that amavisd-new config file...
[15:15:17] <berkel> i don't have amavisd...
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[15:17:39] <berkel> someone can help me?
[15:25:02] <smesjz> berkel: if you use courier for imap/pop3 you might want to consider maildrop for all this?
[15:25:18] <berkel> i use cyrus-imap
[15:26:46] <berkel> what permission must have procmailrc?
[15:26:47] <smesjz> did you write a procmail rule to filter mail?
[15:27:02] <berkel> yes....
[15:27:03] <berkel> :0fw
[15:27:04] <berkel> |spamc
[15:27:04] <berkel> :0
[15:27:04] <berkel> * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes
[15:27:04] <berkel> spam
[15:27:37] <berkel> if i edit this line
[15:27:38] <berkel> amassassin  unix  -       n       n       -       -       pipe
[15:27:39] <berkel>    user=nobody argv=/usr/bin/spamc -e /usr/sbin/sendmail -oi -f ${sender} ${recipient}
[15:27:42] <berkel> to
[15:27:54] <berkel> amassassin  unix  -       n       n       -       -       pipe
[15:27:55] <berkel>    user=nobody argv=/usr/bin/spamc -e /usr/bin/procmail -oi -f ${sender} ${recipient}
[15:28:07] <berkel> postfix start procmail...but mail not arrive.
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[19:31:46] <hundfred> hi, i use just did an upgrade to debian etch
[19:32:45] <hundfred> now postfix will not authentificate with sasl, testsaslauth -u user -p , without postfix works, any suggestions?
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[19:52:32] <xpoint> hundfred, ask for debian problems on #debian
[19:53:33] <xpoint> hundfred, but if testsaslauth works it can be postfix sasl that is changed to not use saslauthd ?
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[20:10:47] <hundfred> xpoint: i just found out now, that the username that ist passed to saslauthd by postfix is not the correct one (my username has a format like: username="username at foo dot bar") but only "username" ist passed by postfix, and the rest has been cutted off, is ther any option within postfix configuration to change this behaviour?
[20:11:50] <smesjz> hmm, any amavis guru's here? I like to have a shared mynetworks file for both Postfix and Amavisd-new. The Postfix side of it works (mynetworks = /etc/postfix/mynetworks) yet Amavisd-new sees all connections as coming from mynetworks (@mynetworks_maps = (read_text('/etc/postfix/mynetworks'), \@mynetworks);) . Any ideas?
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[20:18:46] <Zerberus> hundfred: postfix for sure passed the complete password, but your sasl isn't configured to take it that way
[20:19:08] <Zerberus> hundfred: please read the sasl docs and especially about the required saslauthd parameter
[20:19:45] <Zerberus> hundfred: if you try to auth agains the system shadow passwords, you can't use a username with a realm
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[20:22:51] <xpoint> hundfred, check smtpd.conf
[20:23:16] <xpoint> hundfred, you need to pass the realm olso
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[20:39:04] <hundfred> Zerberus: i use saslauth that asks a mysqldb via pam
[20:42:06] <dinochopins> hi everyone
[20:42:11] <dinochopins> i'm newbie to postfix
[20:42:17] <xpoint> hundfred, thats the problem, saslauth cant be used to mysqldb
[20:42:32] <dinochopins> currently i have a server, the hostname is server1.esteler77.com
[20:42:36] <Zerberus> hundfred: then start saslauth with the proper parameter
[20:42:41] <dinochopins> i'll setup this host as my postfix server
[20:42:46] <Zerberus> xpoint: not correct, sorry
[20:43:10] <Zerberus> x-spec-t: though he didn't say i guess he means he uses pam_mysql
[20:43:17] <xpoint> Zerberus, postfix can, but saslauth cannot use mysqldb
[20:43:18] <dinochopins> everything seems working
[20:43:42] <dinochopins> so i want to try my server now
[20:43:44] <Zerberus> xpoint: he didn't say so - he said " via pam"
[20:43:50] <dinochopins> using mutt to send message
[20:44:07] <hundfred> Zerberus: i found out, i have to use the -r ;)
[20:44:09] <dinochopins> using mutt to send message from one of my local's account ... say "Andrew"
[20:44:18] <hundfred> Zerberus, xpoint thx a lot ;)
[20:44:33] <dinochopins> to my email's account in yahoo
[20:44:40] <Zerberus> hundfred: correct, the "-r" parameter is required
[20:44:40] <dinochopins> i received the mil
[20:44:43] <xpoint> hundfred, man saslauthd solved it :-)
[20:44:59] <dinochopins> but the "FROM" is "andrew at server1 dot esteler77.com"
[20:45:15] <dinochopins> how to make it come out as "andrew at esteler77 dot com" ?
[20:45:21] <Zerberus> dinochopins: the mutt FAQ has an entry on how to set the sender address
[20:45:22] <rob0> dinochopins: the main thing you need to learn is how to configure your MUA. mutt is not simple, but it *is* well-documented and well-supported.
[20:45:48] <devdas> set envelope_from = yes in ~/.muttrc
[20:45:49] <rob0> IIRC it's "set envelope-from".
[20:45:54] <rob0> :)
[20:46:03] <devdas> I must have told people that one dozens of times
[20:46:08] <dinochopins> rob0: ok... will take a look at it :)
[20:46:51] <rob0> Further mutt questions might fit better in #mutt. Your Postfix setup is pretty simple, covered by these:
[20:46:54] <rob0> !basic
[20:46:55] <knoba> rob0: 'basic' : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[20:46:58] <dinochopins> there's no .muttrc in my home folder
[20:46:59] <rob0> !standard
[20:46:59] <knoba> rob0: 'standard' : Your question is probably answered in http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html
[20:47:10] <dinochopins> rob0: ah... i see
[20:47:17] * hparker stabs rob0
[20:47:18] <dinochopins> rob0: thanks.. will take a look at it now
[20:47:33] <rob0> Yikes!
[20:47:51] <rob0> devdas: hparker was mean to me!!!
[20:49:59] <smesjz> *roar* why can't read this damn amavisd-new accepts regular aliases from /etc/hosts in its config :(
[20:50:13] <rob0> Maybe it uses DNS.
[20:50:18] <devdas> smesjz: feel free to send in a patch :P
[20:50:34] <devdas> dinochopins: make a .muttrc
[20:50:58] <dinochopins> devdas: will do that
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[20:51:09] <dinochopins> meanwhile i've read the README.html
[20:51:15] <hparker> rob0: bwahahaha
[20:51:17] * rob0 cringes
[20:51:17] <dinochopins> is it about myorigin configuration
[20:51:28] <dinochopins> i'm about to test it :)
[20:51:37] * hparker kix rob0 from #postfix
[20:51:45] <rob0> dinochopins: myorigin is .. OUCH!
[20:51:47] *** hparker sets mode: -o hparker
[20:51:59] <hparker> hehe
[20:52:11] <rob0> ... irrelevant with muttrc set up to use envelope_from.
[20:52:27] * hparker throws his fat gut^W^W weight around a bit
[20:52:32] <dinochopins> well... not working :P
[20:52:52] <dinochopins> so... it's about .muttrc problem ?
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[20:57:09] <dinochopins> guys..
[20:57:15] <dinochopins> i have used "set envelope_from"
[20:57:30] <dinochopins> still it comes out with "server1.esteler77.com"
[20:57:32] <dinochopins> :(
[20:59:58] <devdas> what's the address in your From field in mutt?
[21:00:13] <xpoint> 88
[21:00:23] <xpoint> :-)
[21:01:26] <dinochopins> in mutt ?
[21:01:38] <dinochopins> wait...
[21:01:41] <dinochopins> how to see that ?
[21:01:48] <dinochopins> when I create new email
[21:01:58] <dinochopins> it just asking... To, Subject, and Content
[21:03:02] <devdas> dinochopins: it should tell you when you send (it asks for confirmation)
[21:03:24] <devdas> you can also set that field in mutt
[21:04:05] <dinochopins> devdas: in .muttrc ?
[21:04:15] <dinochopins> devdas: will try to send a message again
[21:04:20] <devdas> yes
[21:05:17] <dinochopins> devdas: ok.. when i try to send a message. Yes, the from address shown... andrew at server1 dot esteler77.com
[21:05:29] <dinochopins> devdas: so.. really it has nothing to do with Postfix ?
[21:05:54] <dinochopins> devdas: can we do some filtering or cleanup in postfix to rewrite the from field ?
[21:06:13] <rob0> It's easier to simply set the sender address in mutt.
[21:06:22] <rob0> but sure, you can do it the hard way
[21:06:47] <dinochopins> rob0: where should I set that ?
[21:07:41] <rob0> I don't remember, has been a long time since I set up mutt.
[21:08:13] <lawnchair> .muttrc : set from = asdf at asdf dot com
[21:08:58] <dinochopins> rob0: i have write it as you suggest. It's working :)
[21:09:03] <rob0> You can also do "set edit_hdrs = yes" I think, so you can change it in your editor.
[21:09:12] <dinochopins> rob0: set from="asdf at asdf dot com"
[21:10:26] <dinochopins> rob0: so my problem is actually about mail client.. nothing to do with Postfix ?
[21:11:11] <dinochopins> but by default it get the host part from `hostname`.. right ?
[21:11:38] <rob0> Well, I expect you might come across some Postfix issues later. mutt use is far from simple, and it requires a pretty good understanding of how mail works.
[21:12:34] <dinochopins> rob0: I see.. Is postfix.org a good start ?
[21:13:17] <dinochopins> rob0: I mean to understand how mail works ?
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[21:15:01] <rob0> hmmm, no, not really.
[21:15:17] <rob0> It's the best first place to go to learn Postfix, yes.
[21:16:04] <rob0> Well, if you hit the mutt docs you should mostly be okay.
[21:16:20] <dinochopins> rob0: well rob0, I think will googling for some resources first ;)
[21:17:01] <dinochopins> rob0 : thanks for all your replies & patiences for guiding me
[21:17:15] <dinochopins> all of you actually... thanks for that ;)
[21:17:19] <rob0> The F1 key in mutt brings up the manual, and of course "man mutt" and maybe muttrc(5) too.
[21:17:39] <dinochopins> rob0 : oh great... take a look at it now
[21:17:41] <rob0> Yeah, devdas is better at mutt than I am.
[21:18:10] <rob0> (Probably better at Postfix too, but he might not admit it. :) )
[21:18:21] <dinochopins> rob0: hahaha...
[21:18:35] <dinochopins> rob0: I think I will be in this channel often :p
[21:19:10] <dinochopins> hope you guys don't mind if my question seems silly or too quite basic
[21:19:48] <rob0> I actually started with Postfix for the same reason you are: I wanted to use mutt. But later I got into real mail administration; I wanted to host and manage my own domains.
[21:20:11] <rob0> Postfix is way easier than sendmail.org.
[21:21:10] <dinochopins> rob0: I thought so
[21:21:22] <devdas> Also, there is a website for configs
[21:21:35] <dinochopins> rob0: running from the start with just standard installation
[21:21:49] <dinochopins> devdas: and it is ?
[21:22:18] <devdas> dinochopins: I don't remember, Google should know
[21:22:48] <dinochopins> devdas: ok, will googling for it :)
[21:23:02] <rob0> First get your Postfix working for outbound only, using your ISP address. Later, set up a dyndns name and start receiving your own mail. Eventually maybe you'll get your own domain[s] and host it [them].
[21:23:24] <dinochopins> rob0 : outbound means ?
[21:23:31] <dinochopins> rob0: relaying ?
[21:23:38] <rob0> meaning your mutt is able to send mail.
[21:23:41] <rob0> yes
[21:24:05] <dinochopins> rob0: I see
[21:24:27] <dinochopins> rob0: quite making sense now
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