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[00:10:53] <Zordrack> quick question. if i wanted to reject a specific incomming mail address (user at domain dot tld) how i do that ?
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[00:14:28] <Zordrack> in this case it's root at ourdomain dot tld that's getting slammed and postfix is the first line of defense
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[00:22:33] <Zordrack> anyone ?
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[00:25:41] <shasta> man 5 access
[00:25:55] <shasta> man 5 postconf, see check_recipient_access
[00:26:08] <Zordrack> but isnt that just for general recipient rejection ?
[00:26:30] <Zordrack> as i read it it's kinda the opposite of what i want to do
[00:27:01] <shasta> you want to reject email based on sender address, or recipient address?
[00:27:27] <Zordrack> i want to reject a single recipient address that is on the local network
[00:27:41] <Zordrack> so it's part of the trusted relay networks
[00:27:59] <shasta> "on the local network"?
[00:28:45] <Zordrack> yeah, sorry. i'm one of those people who managed to get completely confuddled with postfix
[00:29:39] <Zordrack> postfix is the first line of defense here. the recipient address that i want to reject is user root on our domain
[00:30:20] <Zordrack> and normally postfix would just relay everything that comes in to that recipient domain to the novell groupwise server down the line
[00:30:21] <shasta> smtpd_recipient_restrictions = (...) check_recipient_access hash:/etc/postfix/recipient-access
[00:30:53] <shasta> echo "root at mydomain dot tld  REJECT" >> /etc/postfix/recipient-access
[00:30:57] <shasta> postmap /etc/postfix/recipient-access
[00:31:05] <shasta> see if that works :)
[00:31:17] <Zordrack> cool thanx, two sec
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[00:40:11] <storyteller> Good afternoon folks. I've been attempting to get posfix working properly for weeks now and I just got incoming mail working properly, but sending mail simply times out with both gmail and hotmail. Is there any way to troubl;eshoot why this is happening?
[00:41:01] <storyteller> I can see my connection timing out and being routed to different servers, but they all time out
[00:42:09] <shasta> you mean your postfix cannot connect to gmail/hotmail smtp servers to push your mails there?
[00:42:25] <storyteller> correct
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[00:42:49] <Zordrack> isp blocks outbound port 25 ?
[00:42:55] <jra> most likely a dynamic ip issue
[00:43:02] <shasta> maybe your (or your ISP's) firewall denies outgoing tcp/25 connections?
[00:43:22] <shasta> storyteller: telnet gsmtp163.google.com 25
[00:43:26] <storyteller> Incoming mail is working beautifully..I had been following way too complex of tutorials for 2 weeks and just got some help today setting postfix up properly in #archlinux, but noone was able to help me troubleshoot this issue there
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[00:44:39] <storyteller> Hmmm...just hanging there as well....
[00:45:02] <Zordrack> your isp blocks outbound port 25
[00:45:14] <Zordrack> see if they have a mail gateway you can relay through
[00:45:20] <storyteller> That looks to be the case...thank you very much for the help...I would have busted my brain all day on this one
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[00:48:30] <Zordrack> shasta> sorry, but what is the syntax between line one and two ? i typed it in as is and got a Fatal: /etc/postfix/main.cf, line 560 missing '=' after attribute name "hash:/etc/postfix/recipient_access"
[00:48:59] <Zordrack> sorry, retyping this from another machine :)
[00:49:32] <shasta> check_recipient_access=hash:/etc/postfix/recipient_access
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[00:49:51] <Zordrack> ahh gotcha, thanks
[00:49:59] <shasta> of course place it on appropriate place on restrictions list
[00:50:46] <Zordrack> hehe and where would that be ? the previous admin of this system hightailed it 2 weeks ago and it's my first time on it
[00:51:03] <shasta> storyteller: in case your isp has a mail gw you can relay through, see man 5 postconf, 'relayhost' description
[00:51:09] <shasta> Zordrack: depends on your setup, really :)
[00:51:42] <shasta> Zordrack: pastebin your postconf -n
[00:52:01] <Zordrack> homecooked gentoo based postfix/bogofilter/spamassasin/perl/bash scripting :)
[00:52:32] <Zordrack> hang on a sec. gotta find a way to get it onto this machine then
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[01:06:16] <Zordrack> ok, here we go
[01:06:32] <Zordrack> how do you want to recieve the file ?
[01:07:45] <shasta> pastebin it
[01:08:14] <Zordrack> just paste it all into here ?
[01:09:51] <ptomter> i try to move files from a old mail folder to a newmail folder and I get this message : list is to long :
[01:10:13] <ptomter> how can I easely move old mails from one folder to another folder when mv. command cant work?
[01:10:13] <shasta> Zordrack: not here, http://rafb.net/paste/ for example
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[01:10:51] <Zordrack> shasta> thanks, on my way
[01:11:48] <Zordrack> shasta> done: http://rafb.net/p/oN1zun97.html
[01:12:09] <shasta> ptomter: with some help of shell scripting? :) like (if you use bash):  for f in $(ls -1 /old/mail/folder/); do echo mv $f /new/mail/folder/; done
[01:12:33] <shasta> ptomter: if you're sure things that pop out on screen then are correct, remove "echo" from that one-liner
[01:12:38] <storyteller> Bah...the archlinux docs for setting up postfix with sasl point to an invalid server...time to write some letters...
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[01:14:07] <ptomter> No easier way to move the files with the mv. command?
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[01:15:29] <shasta> ptomter: you're probably doing `mv * blah/`. with many files in your current dir, there's a big chance '*' will be expanded to a list longer than 32767 characters (which is argv limit on x86 bash, if i recall correctly). you have to workaround it.
[01:16:05] <shasta> ptomter: that one-liner should do that if you understood my remarks about it
[01:19:03] <shasta> Zordrack: doesn't really matter where you it in your case as long as it's before 'permit'. you have to decide if you want to check recipient_access before RBL checks (saving some bandwidth off DNS queries) or after them
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[01:20:15] <shasta> Zordrack: that's a 2.1.5 postfix? :)
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[01:21:02] <shasta> (if so, consult your local man pages for syntax, as it might have changed since then and I only have 2.3 manuals laying around, and no knowledge what was before)
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[01:23:55] <ptomter> shasta I tried the line and it worked fine. but when i moved the echo it would move the files
[01:24:40] <Zordrack> shasta> honestly i have no idea what version it is. but let me have a look. aside from that  does it look right ?
[01:25:21] <shasta> ptomter: ain't that what you wanted?
[01:26:01] <ptomter> I want to move the files from location a to location b: when i type :mysql -u root [-p] < DATABASE_MYSQL.TXT
[01:26:01] <ptomter> adduser -g users -s /bin/shell -p PRETERITUM -d /home/ptomter -m ptomter
[01:26:01] <ptomter> adduser -m tale
[01:26:01] <ptomter> tar -czvf home.tgz /home
[01:26:02] <shasta> Zordrack, it looks pretty much like a default config, so yeah
[01:26:05] <ptomter> ops sorry
[01:27:05] <ptomter> I want to move the files from location a to location b: when i type :for f in $(ls -1 /old/mail/folder/); do echo mv $f /new/mail/folder/; done : All the files is showing on the screen but when I delete the echo from the line it want move the files for me . Or did I do something wrong?
[01:28:34] <shasta> a) < ptomter> I want to move the files (...)
[01:28:41] <shasta> b) (...) when I delete the echo from the line it want move the files for me
[01:29:02] <shasta> i think i don't understand what you want :)
[01:29:49] <ptomter> it seems that the command line didnt work.
[01:30:07] <shasta> didn't move the files?
[01:30:15] <shasta> what error did you got
[01:31:33] <ptomter> I didnt get any error but when I go to the folder and the files isnt there.
[01:31:40] <ptomter> it is still in the old folder
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[02:17:05] <Zordrack> shasta> hey, you're not gonna belive this. the reason it didnt work was that someone had kicked out the ethernet cable to the mailserver :)
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[02:54:28] <storyteller> Ha! Got sbc to unblock port 25 and everything is working perfectly...thanks again everyone for the help :)
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[03:08:09] <djs_2_6> Well, that is quite an accomplishment!!  SBC is evil!!!
[03:09:06] <djs_2_6> Is there any way to have calendar collaboration related to my mail server?  Not seeing any options related to courier or postfix, but not sure if that is my missing it or it not existing...
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[03:36:18] <djs_2_6> Hey lunaphyte
[03:36:46] <storyteller> djs_2_6: Surprisingly SBC didn't ask any questions at all...I said "I like you to unblock outgoing connections on port 25" and he said "I can do that right here...and...done". Easiest support call I've ever made
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[03:37:52] <storyteller> Usually they drag their feet and refuse to even test to see if their server is up because I'm running linux. I say "Ping your server, it's down" and they say "We just don't support linux, I'm sorry"
[03:38:50] <djs_2_6> That is why I NEVER tell them what I run.  They don't need any rope to hang me...]
[03:38:56] <storyteller> lol
[03:39:35] <djs_2_6> Well, if you read most of those agreements, they say only one computer hooked to the modem, and that is all they need to know about...
[03:40:00] <storyteller> I once told a tech I run linux and he said "Do you work for NASA?"
[03:40:36] <djs_2_6> I did not realize NASA used linux.  I thought they were mostly proprietary...
[03:41:22] <storyteller> He just assumed that only rocket scientists can run linux
[03:41:49] <djs_2_6> Well, occasionally, linux can be a PITA...
[03:42:13] <storyteller> I told him that I installed linux on my 59 year old computer illiterate mother-in-laws computer and she hasn't asked me for help once since.
[03:42:45] <storyteller> I spent 2 weeks running that box myself working out the bugs and it just works...really pleased with how that went
[03:43:01] <djs_2_6> I prefer xBSD myself.
[03:43:04] <rob0> Yeah it can be a great thing for people like that. Things work, no viruses.
[03:43:42] <storyteller> I figured she had been running windows 95, so KDE wasn't too much farther from what she ws used to than moving her to XP
[03:44:15] <djs_2_6> And way less crashing, even if she makes mistakes...
[03:44:22] <storyteller> I'm going to vmware BSD next week...I've finally gotten comfortable enough in linux to want to compare the 2
[03:44:43] <storyteller> Yes...totally...she hasn't messed anything up yet
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[03:50:41] <magyar> i get a lot of bouces by someone sending email with my email address
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[03:58:12] <lunaphyte> it's surprising to hear an isp like sbc would need no more than a request to unblock a port.
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[04:01:30] <xenoterracide> can I make it so postfix listens only on certain IP addresses?
[04:01:43] <xenoterracide> I have 4 Ip's on one interface
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[05:03:04] <bezerker> Greetings all.  I'm curious if there is any current updated version to the workaround.org isp style mail howto for Debian? I'm running debian etch and apparently the amavisd part (not entirely postfix related I know) is different. =P
[05:09:34] <lawnchair> hows it diff
[05:10:13] <lawnchair> etch doesnt use amavisd.conf anymore
[05:10:26] <lawnchair> but it has a conf.d/ with config files in there
[05:10:48] <lawnchair> you shouldnt have to touch amavisd-new all that much to get it workin
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[05:15:30] <bezerker> Well some of the things it was searching for and telling me to uncomment for example didnt exist in the split config
[05:15:48] <bezerker> but i'll poke a bit harder.  I've never touched amavisd at all as I used to be an exim4 junky. :P
[05:15:51] <lawnchair> prolly not important than ;)
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[05:15:59] <bezerker> ha hopefully not :P
[05:16:11] <lawnchair> i mean its a new version of amavisd-new
[05:16:20] <lawnchair> so things have been taken out etc....
[05:17:10] <bezerker> yeah. That's what I was figuring.  I'll poke around with it some more.  Just a bit pressured for time as i'm moving my mail off of my old server tonight and I don't have more time after that hehe. :)
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[09:18:27] <prologic> Hey guys, in an ideal situation for mail servers, would you need the mail server's ip to match it'shostname
[09:18:59] <prologic> ie: a.b.c.d resolves to mail.foobart.com and mail.foobar.com resolves to a.b.c.d ?
[09:19:33] <f3ew> yes
[09:20:30] <prologic> k thanks
[09:21:13] <prologic> also I'm trying to find a solution to this
[09:21:24] <prologic> a few of my users want a their mailboxes to by blacklisted by deafult
[09:21:35] <prologic> ie: noone can send them emails- all get rejecteed
[09:21:40] <prologic> unless the user first sends them an email
[09:21:45] <f3ew> TMDA with the challenge-response disabled
[09:21:50] <prologic> probably inserting into some database and checking on incoming mail
[09:22:00] <prologic> TMDA ?
[09:22:29] <prologic> hrmm ok
[09:22:35] <prologic> care to elaborate a bit while I read :)
[09:22:59] <f3ew> TMDA does that already
[09:23:29] <prologic> does it work well with psotfix or can integrate into it ?
[09:23:40] <prologic> how does a user control their baclk/white lsits and/or other settings ?
[09:23:43] * prologic reads
[09:23:46] <f3ew> it works well, you might need to do some integration work
[09:23:55] <f3ew> precisely :)
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[09:24:44] <prologic> k
[09:24:50] <prologic> you highly recommend it ? :)
[09:24:53] <danige> hi
[09:24:57] <f3ew> no
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[09:24:58] <prologic> I already use spamassassin and rbl lists
[09:25:07] <f3ew> I know it does what you want
[09:25:13] <prologic> but they aren't effective enough for my users
[09:25:22] <f3ew> heh
[09:25:25] <prologic> hrmm
[09:25:30] <f3ew> write a policy daemon
[09:25:33] <prologic> you don't recommend it yet you point me to it :)
[09:25:35] <prologic> *sigh* :)
[09:25:38] <prologic> I guess I'll try it
[09:25:49] <f3ew> I don't have to *LIKE* it
[09:25:50] <prologic> I could write anything time permitting :)
[09:25:55] <prologic> no I nkow :)
[09:25:56] <f3ew> I don't recommend spamassassin either
[09:26:01] <prologic> haha
[09:26:04] <prologic> ok can I ask
[09:26:07] <prologic> what do you recommend ?
[09:26:12] <f3ew> !cheatsheet
[09:26:13] <knoba> f3ew: 'cheatsheet' : http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt : A HOWTO for pre-DATA spam control.
[09:26:14] <prologic> and you'd better say postfix :)
[09:28:50] <danige> I would like to permit postfix to send only to my domains, but the list seems to be ignored and some use the server as an open relay... (I have now completely shut down postfix since I found out. what do I need to look at?) I followed the workaround stuff...
[09:29:26] <prologic> my_networks
[09:29:29] <prologic> and smtp_restrictions
[09:29:38] <prologic> only allow your own network
[09:29:44] <f3ew> smtpd_recipient_restrictions actually
[09:30:03] <prologic> smtpd_recipient_restrictions=
[09:30:04] <prologic>    permit_mynetworks,
[09:30:07] <prologic> reject everyone else
[09:30:12] <prologic> or use sasl
[09:30:17] <prologic> yeah that :)
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[09:39:59] <danige> well I use sasl, but it seems to not block the other suckers...
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[09:46:45] <Signum> danige: what does this print: "postconf smtpd_recipient_restrictions" and "postconf mynetworks"
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[09:48:09] <danige> smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated, check_sender_access hash:/etc/postfix/sender_access, check_recipient_access hash:/etc/postfix/recipient_access, reject
[09:48:28] <danige> mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8
[09:49:03] <danige> the others seem to be able to come through as localhost spoofs...
[09:49:04] <Signum> danige: /etc/postfix/sender_access and /etc/postfix/recipient_access look reasonable?
[09:49:24] <Signum> danige: well, you trust localhost completely. is some web application on the same server generating mails?
[09:49:53] <danige> not so sure if this could be some php exploit...
[09:50:43] <danige> so sender access is only with actual domain names and recipient access are only my defined recipients, (email addresses on the server with the domains (no local mail))
[09:51:15] <danige> so I can remove the mynetworks to give it the names of my actual network domain names?
[09:51:32] <Signum> danige: mynetworks lists IP ranges - not domain names
[09:51:39] <danige> s/so I can/ So, can I
[09:52:03] <danige> yes. I have only one host to send from... so it would be 127.0.0.1
[09:52:03] <Signum> You can set "mynetworks=" if you like and see if the spam stops
[09:52:21] <danige> but then I can't send mail at all eh?
[09:52:35] <Signum> Not if you inject mails on port 25 to localhost.
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[09:52:54] <Signum> Does your mail.log say the mails come from 127.0.0.1?
[09:55:31] <danige> the last entry before I stopped it was: http://pastebin.ca/460749
[09:57:28] <Signum> That's apparently not localhost. Hmmm.
[10:04:49] <f3ew> is there an ok in check_sender_access?
[10:06:18] <danige> f3ew, I don't know where to look for this parameter
[10:06:58] <f3ew> danige smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated, check_sender_access hash:/etc/postfix/sender_access, check_recipient_access hash:/etc/postfix/recipient_access, reject
[10:07:23] <danige> http://pastebin.ca/460758
[10:07:46] <danige> is the mail header that made me worry I got this mail on my server and it seems to be sent from my server...
[10:11:09] <danige> I gotta go, sorry that I' can't wait... I will be back...
[10:11:45] <danige> thanks a lot for the help (f3ew ,yes, my sender access is all with OK from my domains.
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[10:34:26] <Signum> Right... I thought the final "reject" would do it but then again any accepted recipient or sender would have been okay.
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[11:13:40] <andrago> hi
[11:13:43] <hundfred> hi
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[11:30:08] <ogreg> hi all
[11:31:06] <ogreg> can u tell me please where can i find a doc what write how to set using plaintext password when i'm mailing via smarthost?
[11:31:50] <ogreg> my ISP takes password in plaintext
[11:33:00] <ogreg> i have found with_SASL docs but doesn't with_plain_thext at all
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[11:36:42] <hundfred> i am searching for a doc/tutorial, howto test saslauthd
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[11:38:58] <hundfred> after upgrading to debian etch, i get SASL LOGIN authentication failed: authentication failure
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[11:40:35] <Malph> so has anyone gone nuts while tailing their postfix logs?
[11:41:50] <Supaplex> nay
[11:42:26] <Malph> cool i can be the first
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[11:45:19] <Roobarb> Malph: multitail :o)
[11:45:35] <renato> Hi, I am trying to connect postfix with postgres and I get the error: Apr 27 11:41:39 server postfix/trivial-rewrite[5005]: warning: connect to pgsql server localhost: SSL SYSCALL error: No such file or directory?. postfix and postgres are on the same box
[11:46:00] <Malph> lol  I I think if I had more than one log to follow it wouldn't be so bad
[11:47:27] <Malph> whoever decided that this program needed to use an asp page to transmit it's email is a sadist
[11:47:45] <Malph> that comment in no way reflects on postfix
[11:48:25] <Roobarb> Malph: I use multitail for its line-colouring feature
[11:48:27] <renato> has anybody on here connected postfix with postgres?
[11:48:47] <f3ew> Malph yes
[11:48:48] <ek> renato: Looks like you're trying to connect to Postgres via secure socket layer. Make sure your PostgreSQL is properly set up.
[11:48:51] <ek> (Good luck)
[11:48:52] <f3ew> renato yes
[11:49:19] <f3ew> ogreg http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html#client_sasl
[11:49:20] <ek> Malph: What's wrong with the way Postfix logs? I haven't had any issues.
[11:49:41] <renato> ek, postgres "should" be properly set up. googling about that error I found it sometimes to be related to postfix being chrooted
[11:49:43] * f3ew sends ek a million messages
[11:50:01] <ek> f3ew: \o/
[11:50:02] <ogreg> f3ew: checking
[11:50:06] <ek> renato: That very well may be.
[11:50:17] <Malph> ek: not a single thing it's the way the pragram that is interfacing with postfix that is driving me nuts
[11:50:23] <ek> renato: Chrooting is a lot different than standard setups.
[11:50:41] <ek> Malph: Ah. Okay.
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[11:51:15] <renato> I am no expert , I had it running (a month or so ago) but I have not worked on it constantly and now that I am having a problem I am  a bit lost because I do not remember the whole issue well
[11:51:43] <ogreg> f3ew: server of my ISP doesn't know SASL
[11:51:51] <ek> renato: Well, understanding the problem would be step one. It's hard to help if you can't explain what is wrong.
[11:52:00] <Malph> I'm using a program called fogbugz from fogcreek and it uses an asp page to transmit it's email.  one email at a time and it's taking about 40 seconds per email for the page to do it's thing.
[11:52:24] <ek> Malph: Standard home ISP?
[11:53:04] <Malph> smtp relay from an onsite xserve to our smtp down in texas
[11:53:15] <f3ew> ogreg SASL is just the library
[11:53:22] <ek> renato: I'm not a big Postgres user... In fact, I highly recommend MySQL over it..
[11:53:31] <renato> first of all, in master.cf there are two setups, one is "smtps     inet  n       -       n       -       -       smtpd" and the other one is  "smtp      inet  n       -       n       -       -       smtpd" I guess smtps is smtp with ssl?
[11:53:32] <ek> But, that's only opinion (in a way).
[11:53:48] <f3ew> renato that's for mail entering postfix
[11:53:51] <f3ew> but yes
[11:54:06] <ek> Malph: Is the domain/IP able to relay without issues? Or are you suppose to have to authenticate to send mail?
[11:54:32] <renato> f3ew, so that has nothing to do with postfix  communicating to postgres with or without ssl...
[11:54:49] <Malph> our mail server in texas has our external IP whitelisted so we do not need authentication
[11:55:02] <renato> so what parapeter would determinne whether postfix wants to communicate with postgres with or without SSL?
[11:55:06] <renato> parameter
[11:55:43] <Malph> anyone outside of the office however needs to authenticate
[11:55:44] <ek> Malph: From the same machine, can you telnet to the SMTP port and send mail out?
[11:55:51] <Malph> yes
[11:56:04] <ogreg> f3ew: Cannot SASL authenticate to <smart host> : no mechanism available  OMG
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[11:56:42] <ek> Malph: Wait. You mentioned you were using an ASP application to relay the mail?
[11:57:09] <Malph> lol:  yes I'm assuming that this is as fast as this thing normally goes
[11:57:10] <ek> ogreg: SASL1 or SASL2?
[11:57:32] <ek> Malph: Is the ASP page's IP any different than yours?
[11:57:44] <ek> Well, not page, but application.
[11:57:44] <Malph> no
[11:57:46] <ogreg> ek: 2
[11:57:48] <Malph> no
[11:57:52] <ek> Hrm. Should still be able to dump.
[11:58:02] <ek> ogreg: Paste your smtpd.conf
[11:58:09] <Malph> the asp page is hosted locally onsite and is covered by the same blanket IP
[11:58:13] <ek> ... on pastebin.com or something similar.
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[11:59:58] <Malph> ek:  I don't think there is anything wrong with this thing other than it got two days backed up and people started throwing a lot of email at it to try and see wy it wouldn't send
[12:00:13] <f3ew> Malph, what about proper reverse DNS?
[12:00:14] <ek> Malph: Ah. That might be.
[12:00:21] <ek> The queue could take care of it.
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[12:00:30] <ek> Not sure how your ISP handles connections.
[12:00:34] <ogreg> i'm lame i realised L means Lib here, not Layer
[12:00:44] <ek> ogreg: Ah. :P
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[12:01:10] <ek> Okay. Girlfriend has been patiently waiting hours for me to finish my work tonight.
[12:01:20] <ek> I'm off to home. G'night, all. :D
[12:01:36] <Malph> night
[12:03:10] <Malph> f3ew: I'm not worried about reverse dns this program has been running for longer than I have worked here so I'm thinking it just got backed up
[12:04:19] <andrago> anyone used greypolicy in the configuration?
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[12:19:42] <andrago> anyone useing more than one reject_rbl_client paremeter?
[12:20:00] <andrago> I'm using spamhaus and spamcop, but it seems that only check spamhaus
[12:26:23] <andrago> sorry, both are working
[12:27:02] <ogreg> OMG
[12:27:46] <Malph> what's up ogreg
[12:28:01] <ogreg> f3ew: solution  in main.cf smart_host=  smart_host_username= smart_host_password=
[12:28:49] <ogreg> i don't want SASL
[12:32:23] <f3ew> relayhost?
[12:32:34] <f3ew> WTF is smart_host?
[12:33:24] <ogreg> relay host
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[12:37:28] <ogreg> a bit weird
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[13:50:10] <Malph> yaaaaa my script finally completed
[13:50:39] <sep> first time ever i have migrated from a windows server to postfix. and putty is soo nice to have :)
[13:51:53] <sep> tunnel port 25 to the postfix so that some  slow uptakes on dns won't hamper maildelivery too much
[13:53:57] <Malph> congratz on the move
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[14:15:01] <flami> thumps up :P *beep* windows, no wonder everybody thinks mails are complicated , I try since half an hour to get outlook express to use tls ( In firefox it took me uhm 10 seconds )
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[14:24:41] <sep> flami, i dont think OE supports it ?  i had to use smtp over ssl on port 465
[14:25:24] <flami> I just read that aparently OE cant get port 587 AND TLS working together
[14:25:31] <flami> 25 and tls works.....
[14:27:12] <sep> hence port 465 and ssl . since port25 is blocked by 2 large isp's around here
[14:27:22] <flami> wow and stupid weenydows cant find my printer .... my super duper samba+linux works in seconds ^^ . I suggest Pc noobs should start with linux and then try windows
[14:27:23] <sep> unless you use their mailserver ofcourse
[14:27:37] <flami> yeah 465 isnt rfc though but well
[14:28:41] <flami> what can we do if OE *beeps* ;) ... I recomend firefox.
[14:35:00] * sep takes notes not to trust flami's recomends.
[14:35:04] <sep> :)
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[14:36:45] <flami> yes youre right :P use mutt
[14:37:16] <sep> i assume you ment thunderbird instead of firefox ? :)
[14:37:20] <flami> yeah :P
[14:37:45] <flami> woops ^^
[14:44:27] <Indy7759> flami: yesterday you mentioned you had a good book about postfix, which one is it?
[14:45:24] <flami> "the book of postfix"
[14:45:32] <flami> I really like it
[14:45:43] <Indy7759> ah. cool. thank you
[14:47:20] <Indy7759> does it have a good mix of n00b & more advanced stuff?
[14:50:30] <flami> yes
[14:50:49] <flami> it starts with a noob setup and ends in a LDAP super mega setup ^^
[14:50:58] <flami> it explains tls , saslauth ....
[14:51:01] <flami> really nice
[14:52:21] <Indy7759> sweet. think I'll make a run to the book store today. appreciate the info
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[16:00:03] <earthian> hello, is there any relation between spamassasin, clamav and amavis antivirus?
[16:00:58] <flami> hu ? yes :P amavis manages SA and clamav
[16:01:16] <earthian> hm
[16:01:26] <earthian> i have them both i dunno how to use them with my incoming mail :S
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[16:03:15] <flami> well
[16:03:19] <flami> wait a minute
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[16:04:36] <flami> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=amavis+postfix&btnG=Google+Search
[16:04:48] <flami> there are lots of howtoos how to ge it working
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[16:07:25] <earthian> ok thanks
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[16:08:36] <flami> oh and take a look at the howtoos on the amavisd-new site
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[16:10:18] <Mc_Fly> I have a server, running postfix, in a serverroom at a hosting company. Can I setup another server at my home that acts as secundary mailserver?
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[16:12:33] <Mc_Fly> My ISP is bloking port 25 btw
[16:12:46] <lunaphyte_> Mc_Fly: port 25 in or out?  (or both)
[16:13:21] <Mc_Fly> lunaphyte_: in
[16:13:30] <lunaphyte_> won't do much good then.
[16:13:43] <lunaphyte_> you'd need some sort of port redirection service.
[16:13:48] <Mc_Fly> lunaphyte_: I just need a way to get a secondary mailserver.
[16:13:52] <lunaphyte_> why?
[16:14:21] <Mc_Fly> lunaphyte_: If my primary should crash or the net be unavaileble
[16:14:41] <lunaphyte_> the days of backup mxs are more or less gone.
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[16:14:54] <lunaphyte_> my opinion, anyway.
[16:16:13] <lunaphyte_> is your mailserver a colo'd server or a package from the hosting company?
[16:16:48] <Mc_Fly> lunaphyte_: it's my own server, running gentoo linux
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[16:18:16] <lunaphyte_> if you want some sort of protection again non-service related outages (e.g. horrific crashes, physical hardware failure, etc.) then install another server.
[16:18:29] <lunaphyte_> mirror the setup, and switch to if if needed.
[16:18:48] <lunaphyte_> probably prohibitively expensive, iyam.
[16:19:06] <lunaphyte_> well, i take that back.
[16:20:23] <Mc_Fly> lunaphyte_: hehe, one server in that enviroment is eneugh ;-)
[16:20:49] <Mc_Fly> lunaphyte_: there are no free services out there are there?
[16:21:11] <lunaphyte_> if you kept the backup machine offsite, and could replace it in a reasonable amount of time.
[16:21:32] <lunaphyte_> there are plenty of free services.
[16:21:38] <lunaphyte_> you'll probably get what you pay for though.
[16:22:01] <Mc_Fly> lunaphyte_: like what?
[16:22:47] <Mc_Fly> lunaphyte_: it is not easy to keep updating the backup machine for every little trivial change to the main server
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[16:23:13] <lunaphyte_> nothing worth doing is ever easy ;)
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[16:26:06] <lunaphyte_> as far as free services, you'd have to search around.  they seem to come up in conversation from time to time, but i couldn't volunteer any off of the top of my head.
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[16:35:05] <Mc_Fly> lunaphyte_: Ok, Ill look around
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[16:36:05] <rob0> Zoneedit maybe. But they don't do recipient validation, they just accept everything.
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[17:02:34] <R1ck> Mc_Fly: dont. configure it as final destination
[17:03:42] <rob0> but, isn't it where the mail should end up? Is the ISP also providing IMAP?
[17:04:12] <rob0> If my understanding is right, there's nothing special to do at all.
[17:04:33] 
[17:07:22] <rob0> oh I misunderstoof R1ck ... I thought he said "don't configure it as final destination".
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[17:12:56] <OsRo> because imap no remove the messages of the trash of but of 7 days of old if the parameter
[17:12:56] <OsRo> IMAP_EMPTYTRASH=Trash:7
[17:12:56] <OsRo> this active
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[17:19:02] <x-ip> i`ve some 776 errors to fix :S
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[17:27:03] <Kurin> er
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[17:27:07] <Kurin> That's the line the error is on
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[17:36:48] <dubphil> Hello folks, the days as come when I must setup a virtual domain system, postfixadmin with postfix-mysql seems the easyest, I'm not far to the success, but postfix is unable to connect to mysql (Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)) I can connect to mysql with the user/passwd provided in all mysql_virtual_* files, any idea where to search elsewhere ?
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[17:53:52] <jduggan> dubphil: try connecting to 127.0.0.1 (tcp) rather than a usual unix socket
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[17:58:53] <dubphil> jduggan : you are right, I prefer to leave mysql untouch and I've just found the aim of proxymap ;)
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[18:17:32] <xeihin> hi friends
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[18:17:42] <xeihin> hi friends
[18:17:43] <xeihin> I installed postfix but when I do /etc/init.d/postfix restart, I see this in /var/log/mail.err :
[18:17:51] <xeihin> Apr 27 09:46:53 virtual1 postfix/master[1610]: fatal: pipe: Cannot allocate memory
[18:18:25] <xeihin> can some one help me please? this is on debian etch
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[18:40:40] <jeffrey> anyone good w/ domainkeys ?
[18:42:16] <xeihin> can some one help me pleaes?
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[18:45:09] <xeihin> I installed postfix but when I do /etc/init.d/postfix restart, I see this in /var/log/mail.err :
[18:45:13] <xeihin> Apr 27 09:46:53 virtual1 postfix/master[1610]: fatal: pipe: Cannot allocate memory
[18:45:14] <xeihin> can some one help me pleaes?
[18:48:38] <jeffrey> xeihin, http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/postfix/2006-09/0053.html
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[18:50:48] <xeihin> this postfix its running on openvz, have this something to be?
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[18:58:39] <ribasushi> hi
[18:59:24] <flami> hey
[18:59:29] <ribasushi> is there a compromise way to run postfix with mailscanner, or they are just designed to by fully incompatible with each other in any configuration?
[18:59:41] <ribasushi> I have been playing with amavisd-new - it is clearl an inferior product
[19:00:10] <flami> what are you missing then ?
[19:00:45] <ribasushi> flami: you mean what is it I do not like about amavisd?
[19:00:54] <flami> yeah ^^
[19:01:43] <flami> http://www.mailscanner.info/postfix.html you mean this mailscanner ?
[19:02:01] <ribasushi> in my setup virus/attachment/link checks are critical, whereas spam checks are just for convenience (users can even opt out)
[19:02:24] <ribasushi> amavis falls flat on its face, in the former - it can simply let a message through, or not
[19:02:30] <ribasushi> no message modification whatsoever
[19:02:40] <ribasushi> (stripping attachments, changing links, etc)
[19:02:53] <ribasushi> flami: this mailscanner yes
[19:02:59] <flami> ahh well ^^ I dont like changing content
[19:03:14] <ribasushi> flami: problem being it wants access to the queue, postfix does not like to have its queue touched
[19:03:16] <flami> so I guess thats the guide to run mailscanner with postfix
[19:03:22] <flami> ahh
[19:03:40] <ribasushi> I really like postfix though
[19:03:51] <ribasushi> very clever setup and all
[19:04:32] <ribasushi> flami: this is corporate environment with dumb office clerks
[19:04:38] <ribasushi> you don't change the content - no one will
[19:04:46] <ribasushi> and double clicks will fly
[19:05:37] <flami> hehe :P the mail wont arrive at all it gets stuck in spamassassin ( well it will arrive but then be in the spambucket where noone looks at it )
[19:05:59] <ribasushi> no spamassasin :)
[19:06:12] <ribasushi> I never mentioned this three legged perl beast
[19:06:54] <flami> I read that mailscanner doc bt it seems as if it could access the queue :/ dont know though im happy with my amavis+SA setup ^^
[19:07:43] <ribasushi> flami: so basically you are counting on the fact that the viral email will have spam content and will be caught by your spam filtering
[19:07:59] <ribasushi> flami: now what if you have a _targetted_ malware sending?
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[19:09:56] <flami> I mean spam isnt only "viagra" lots of fake links are in blaclists quite quickly and most of the stuff that arrives at my door will be in spam or virus quanrantine.
[19:10:19] <flami> you cant say this mailscanner finds everything
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[19:13:57] <frb-work> Hi, how do I empty the Queue without delivering the mails?
[19:14:06] <jeffrey> postsuper -d ALL
[19:14:29] <frb-work> thanks, I knew how to flush the queue, but not clear it
[19:14:53] <jeffrey> isn't that the same thing ?
[19:15:00] <jeffrey> oh flush meaning re-run
[19:15:40] <frb-work> yeah, /etc/init.d/postfix flush will reprocess the queue
[19:15:57] <rob0> ribasushi: a friend of mine has a Mailscanner howto: http://wiki.slackadelic.com/doku.php/howto:mailserver
[19:16:36] * cpm scans rob0
[19:16:48] <cpm> you could just set to deliver to /dev/null
[19:16:55] <cpm> at least then you'd know where it went
[19:16:56] <rob0> I'd advise caution, because even if it works reliably now, it might break without warning in the future.
[19:17:13] <jeffrey> anyone good using domainkeys ?
[19:17:21] <jeffrey> s/using/setting up
[19:17:30] <rob0> (I guess "without warning" is wrong, because it would be okay until you upgraded Postfix or Mailscanner.)
[19:17:55] <rob0> Dave Null reads all my mail. Saves me a lot of time.
[19:18:18] <rob0> Dave's my administrative assistant.
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[19:20:04] <ribasushi> rob0: it is still ugly... I am almost tempted to add smtp/lmtp support to mailscanner myself
[19:20:38] <rob0> Oh, if mailscanner went to LMTP, it would be 100% compatible with Postfix.
[19:21:11] <ribasushi> I know... I spent a week getting the hang of both amavis and postfix
[19:21:17] <rob0> Reading the queue files directly was a lousy idea in the first place.
[19:21:27] <ribasushi> it's just this "no mail should be ever modified" is a dead-end approach
[19:21:29] <rob0> What's wrong with amavisd-new?
[19:21:46] * cpm pipes rob0 through amavis-new
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[19:21:52] <ribasushi> <ribasushi> flami: this is corporate environment with dumb office clerks
[19:21:52] <ribasushi> <ribasushi> you don't change the content - no one will
[19:21:52] <ribasushi> <ribasushi> and double clicks will fly
[19:22:01] <rob0> OUCH! Okay, that hurt.
[19:22:14] <cpm> ooh, sorry
[19:22:18] <xeihin> guys you give me this url about my proble of the error in the log saying
[19:22:19] <ribasushi> rob0: amavisd is just a milter in a sense, that's all it is
[19:22:20] * rob0 was flagged as spam
[19:22:23] <xeihin> Apr 27 09:46:53 virtual1 postfix/master[1610]: fatal: pipe: Cannot allocate memory
[19:22:24] <xeihin> http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/postfix/2006-09/0053.html
[19:22:30] <xeihin> but I have 1gb of ram
[19:22:41] <xeihin> I need buy more memory tu run postfix?
[19:22:48] <ribasushi> and I want to use dspam - the best sitewide solution I've seen
[19:22:58] <ribasushi> yes... mailscanner definitely needs an smtp interface
[19:23:35] <ribasushi> will postfix complain if the messages comming back are different?
[19:23:37] <ribasushi> I hope not...
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[19:24:19] <rob0> haha :)
[19:24:32] <rob0> Dominian is the one who wrote that howto.
[19:24:43] <xeihin> I have the postfix default installation of debian, and I need more than 1gb of memory? :S
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[19:25:05] <rob0> xeihin: you broke something with your pipe(8) command.
[19:25:16] <xeihin> :O
[19:25:21] <xeihin> with my pipe comand?
[19:25:33] <xeihin> I don't have pipe installed
[19:25:42] <devdas> see pipe(8)
[19:25:45] <rob0> 17:22 < xeihin> Apr 27 09:46:53 virtual1 postfix/master[1610]: fatal: pipe: Cannot allocate memory
[19:25:47] <devdas> It's part of Postfix
[19:25:51] <xeihin> rob0
[19:26:00] <xeihin> I don't have pipe comand
[19:26:07] <rob0> You put something in your pipe, and it's smoked.
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[19:26:59] <xeihin> there isn't a pipe comando on packages.debian.org
[19:27:00] <xeihin> http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=pipe&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=stable&arch=i386
[19:27:27] <rob0> I'm still waiting for Wietse to include a bong(8) service. Smoother than pipe(8).
[19:27:36] <xeihin> can you help me rob0?
[19:27:46] <_colin_> I'm using postfix with some virtual domains, and amavis.  My postfix queue is filled with entries like "(host 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1] said: 450 4.1.1 Failed, id=24639-10-243, from MTA([127.0.0.1]:10025): 450 4.1.1 <Bee-Herdman at anewpark dot ca>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table (in reply to end of DATA command))", where that domain is a virtual domain, but that address doesn
[19:27:53] <_colin_> doesn't exist ...
[19:27:58] <rob0> xeihin: no. Something you set up is broken. How did you set it up?
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[19:28:14] <xeihin> apt-get install postfix
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[19:28:28] <_colin_> why are those messages queued instead of dropped or rejected?
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[19:28:59] <rob0> Maybe xeihin needs to search bugs.debian.org ?
[19:29:16] <xeihin> I don't think that its a debian bug
[19:29:25] <xeihin> the people of #debian send me to #postfix
[19:29:26] <rob0> !debug
[19:29:27] <knoba> rob0: 'debug' : http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html : a good starting point for how to deal with problems and to report information to those who might help. Post your information in a pastebin such as http://pastebin.com/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ .
[19:29:34] <xeihin> and the guys of #postfix send me to #debian xD
[19:29:58] <rob0> If your OS default install of Postfix is broken, it's an OS bug.
[19:30:06] <xeihin> xD
[19:30:31] <flami> well I installed postfix on my debian and it runs like a charm :/
[19:30:32] <rob0> I install Postfix from source, always works for me.
[19:31:08] <xeihin> :S
[19:31:24] <rob0> Yes, my WAG (lacking !debug information) is that there's some strange external issue, like permissions or SELinux involved.
[19:32:29] <x-ip> postfix/smtpd[9372]: warning: unsupported SASL server implementation: cyrus             :,( snif ... snif, snif
[19:32:43] <x-ip> why god is doing this to me!
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[19:34:23] <rob0> x-ip: Need to recompile Postfix (see SASL_README), or install a Cyrus-SASL-enabled binary package.
[19:36:22] <x-ip> i recompiled postfix, and recompiled cyrus-sasl :,(
[19:36:24] <x-ip> snif
[19:36:26] <_colin_> can anyone help with my postfix/amavis question?
[19:36:46] <x-ip> and reading sasl_readme, snif
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[19:50:29] <x-ip> rob0: i forgot to add -DUSE_CYRUS_SASL :|
[19:50:44] <x-ip> now it works like a usa rocket \m/
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[19:54:09] <NoFX_SBC> hi all
[19:56:10] <NoFX_SBC> i send a message from:me at hotmail dot com to:me at hotmail dot com using my own smtp(smtp.mydomain.com) and the hotmail receive the message and save in my inbox but if i send a message from:me at mydomain dot com.br to:me at hotmail dot com hotmail receive the message and save in my spambox.. how do this possible?
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[19:59:27] <NoFX_SBC> any idea?!
[19:59:45] <cos> I'm having trouble.  Trying to use canonical to rewrite an faulty domain from a legacy server, but it's not getting rewritten.
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[20:00:48] <cos> NoFX: it's entirely possible.  do we know what criteria exctly hotmail uses to determine what is spam?  I doubt they tell anyone.  but you should have a way to mark the message "not spam" and if you do that you might train hotmail to recognize it is not
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[20:06:56] <smesjz> NoFX_SBC: one part that contributes is that you send mail from a @hotmail.com address using your own mailserver. Hotmail.com's SPF/Sender-ID/whatever-they-call-it-now might not like this
[20:07:03] <aluchko> NoFX_SBC, could hotmail be suspicious why mail from hotmail.com is going through an external smtp server? (disclaimer: I'm not terribly knowledgeable about mail server stuff)
[20:07:35] <NoFX_SBC> cos i not understand howto hotmail smtps servers accept a msg incoming from a strange smtp(smtp.mydomain.com) with from:me at hotmail dot com
[20:09:11] <NoFX_SBC> s/howto/how
[20:11:15] <cos> smesj,aluchko: he said the opposite of what you seem to think he said.  (though maybe he said the opposite of what he meant, I don't know)
[20:11:51] <cos> NoFX: there's no reason they wouldn't accept it unless they were configured not to accept it.  it's their choice.  there's nothing impossible about it.
[20:13:19] <cos> so, I have an entry in canonical to rewrite "localhost.localdomain" to ourdomain.com, because we have one legacy server that generates all its email from @localhost.localdomain
[20:13:25] <cos> but the rewrite isn't working
[20:13:39] <cos> "postmap -q localhost.localdomain canonical" gives the right answer
[20:13:45] * aluchko is thinking the opposite of what he thinks he's thinking
[20:14:02] * rob0 thinks the opposite of what cpm is thinking
[20:14:03] <cos> the legacy server is in mynetworks, and I added permit_mynetworks to local_header_rewrite_clients
[20:14:15] <rob0> (or, I think so, anyway)
[20:14:16] <cos> I also tried setting local_header_rewrite_clients to static:all
[20:14:39] * smesjz inverts rob0
[20:14:45] <rob0> cos, "postconf canonical_maps"
[20:14:46] <cos> but that mail keeps getting delivered with @localhost.localdomain intact, not rewritten
[20:15:19] * rob0 is umop episdn
[20:15:33] <cos> rob0: that gives me what I expect, canonical_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/canonical
[20:16:04] <rob0> I've never used canonical(5) so I don't know any more than that.
[20:16:35] <rob0> I can only suggest the address rewriting README and "man 5 canonical".
[20:17:26] <cos> I have read the address rewriting README twice over :/
[20:17:32] <cos> and the man page for canonical
[20:18:07] <cos> also I have other entries in the canonical map that *do* work, though they are for servers that are configured to use this server as their relay_host
[20:18:33] <cos> so it's a different situation, because this entry is intended for mail delivered "normally"
[20:19:01] <cos> (which is to: virtual users, so it gets sent on to other places)
[20:19:35] <rob0> !debug
[20:19:36] <knoba> rob0: 'debug' : http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html : a good starting point for how to deal with problems and to report information to those who might help. Post your information in a pastebin such as http://pastebin.com/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ .
[20:20:12] <rob0> cos, if you want to post your "postconf -n" and logs of what's happening and the contents of the canonical map, I'll look.
[20:20:26] <rob0> no guarantees I can figure it out of course :)
[20:20:33] <rob0> maybe someone else will
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[20:23:54] <xeihin> I found the solution about postfix saying Apr 27 09:46:53 virtual1 postfix/master[1610]: fatal: pipe: Cannot allocate memory
[20:24:09] <xeihin> installing exim4
[20:24:11] <xeihin> tnks guys for nothing
[20:24:49] <xeihin> and you lose a server farm with postfix, exim win
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[20:25:54] <smesjz> I don't think Wietse couldn't care less about that
[20:26:09] <smesjz> s/don't//
[20:26:14] <xeihin> I don't care too
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[20:29:08] <rob0> haha what an idiot
[20:29:47] <rob0> Glad I didn't waste any more time than I did, trying to help.
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[20:30:18] <cpm> sheesh, what domains does this guy run? Need to make a note to blacklist
[20:32:19] <Indy7759> right on
[20:32:42] <Indy7759> a server farm, at that...
[20:33:08] <cpm> I think the 'server farm' is a bit of a stretch
[20:33:09] <smesjz> echo "com.mx REJECT" >> /etc/postfix/client_access . That'll do the job
[20:33:21] <smesjz> give Mexico back to the sea!
[20:33:25] <smesjz> howdy cpm
[20:33:29] <cpm> lo smesjz
[20:33:53] <Indy7759> lol
[20:37:01] <smesjz> and it's not like that wietse gets a fee for every install of Postfix...
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[20:40:06] <renkho> hello, can somebody help me please, im having this kind of errors on my postfix server: http://pastebin.ca/461509
[20:41:14] <renkho> users only can send to the users that are on the same server, but it cant recieve from gmail by example
[20:41:32] <smesjz> you cannot use gmail's mailserver to send mail to non-gmail domains
[20:41:40] <renkho> i dont mean that
[20:41:52] <smesjz> that's what the error is showing me
[20:42:03] <smesjz> err
[20:42:10] <smesjz> never mind me
[20:42:23] <cos> I turned on debug logging and sent a test email, here's the log: http://erxz.com/pb/2410
[20:42:24] <rob0> No, there's some kind of smtpd_sender_access restriction
[20:42:28] <renkho> from my gmail i send a email to a user that is hosted on my mail server and i got this error: PERM_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 9): 554 <rolandxy at gmail dot com>: Sender address rejected: Access denied
[20:42:48] <renkho> smtpd_sender_restrictions = permit_mynetworks,        check_client_access hash:/etc/postfix/pop-before-smtp,        reject
[20:42:51] <cos> (this is for the problem I described earlier, where "localhost.localdomain" is not being rewritten despite a canonical map entry saying to rewrite it)
[20:43:11] <smesjz> renkho: can you grep for 'gmail' in /etc/postfix/* ?
[20:43:21] <renkho> ?.. ok
[20:43:29] <rob0> That "reject" on the end would sure do it. :)
[20:43:42] <smesjz> I assume you have a check_sender_access somewhere that blocks gmail
[20:44:07] <renkho> nothing
[20:44:37] <cos> renkho: that smtpd_sender_restrictions line tells postfix: permit mail from my local networks, then permit anyone who does pop before smtp, and otherwise, reject.
[20:44:55] <cos> IOW, you told postfix to reject *everyone* except your local networks and those who do pop before smtp
[20:44:56] <rob0> And your pop-before-SMTP kludge will not do what you expect, being in smtpd_sender_restrictions. You need that in smtpd_recipient_restrictions.
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[20:45:52] <renkho> oh ok
[20:45:57] <renkho> wait i will change and try
[20:46:14] <cos> ou added that universal "reject" rule ... what was the intention?
[20:46:17] <cos> s/ou/you/
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[20:50:42] <renkho> actually i copy the conf from another server (is an emergency migration)
[20:50:54] <rob0> cos, see the lines in there with "canonical", it's not finding it.
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[20:53:00] <renkho> well now the error changed
[20:53:03] <renkho> NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from ik-out-1112.google.com[66.249.90.181]: 554 <consultas at fileserviceholding dot com>: Relay access denied; from=<rolandxy at gmail dot com> to=<consultas at fileserviceholding dot com> proto=ESMTP helo=<ik-out-1112.google.com>
[20:53:11] <renkho> now is about relay :s
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[20:53:13] <MrY> hi all
[20:53:19] <Indy7759> hi
[20:54:08] <MrY> Is it possible to configure postfix to forward a copy of any email sent to or from the server into an account? it's for auditing purposes...
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[20:55:30] <cos> rob0: that doesn't seem relevant.  it looks like those lines are where it is rewriting the *recipient* (which does not have "localhost.localdomain" in it)
[20:56:01] <cos> so obviously it doesn't find "cos at ourdomain dot com", "cos", or " at ourdomain dot com" in the canonical map
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[21:00:36] <renkho> :( still not working
[21:07:12] <cos> renkho: what is still not working?
[21:07:53] <cos> rob0: ahah, I solved my problem.  I needed " at localhost dot localdomain" in canonical, not "localhost.localdomain" - postfix never tried to look that up, it only looks it up with the @
[21:08:07] <rob0> "Relay access denied" means that the @fileserviceholding.com was not recognized as a destination on this machine.
[21:08:40] <renkho> cos: now i have this error :Relay access denied;
[21:09:20] <cos> renkho: what are your mydomains?
[21:09:41] <cos> (the list of domains your postfix is supposed to believe are itself)
[21:10:00] <renkho> mydomain= viaperu.com
[21:10:17] <renkho> mmmm there are a lot of domains :s
[21:10:18] <rob0> mydestination, NOT mydomain
[21:10:19] <renkho> on the server
[21:10:57] <rob0> or, virtual_mailbox_domains, or virtual_alias_domains
[21:11:08] <renkho> no is not configured as virtual_*
[21:11:18] <renkho> was working without that
[21:11:38] <rob0> "postconf mydestination"
[21:12:18] <renkho> mydestination = $myhostname, $mydomain, localhost.$mydomain, localhost
[21:12:59] <cos> ahh, okay
[21:13:24] <cos> you probably want something like this:
[21:13:24] <cos> mydestination = $myhostname, localhost, localhost.$mydomain, /etc/postfix/domains.local
[21:13:37] <cos> and then in the domains.local file, list all the domains you want to treat as local to your server
[21:13:42] <cos> (one domain per line)
[21:13:49] <renkho> ok, let me try
[21:14:15] <cos> you also probably want to read the basic configuration docs at postfix.org
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[21:14:30] <cos> since it sounds like you're using a configuration that was not made for your environment, and you'll run into lots of problems
[21:14:57] <cos> so you want to go through all of your important configuration variables and figure out what you need to do with each one, one by one
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[21:18:21] <renkho> :o it seems like is working
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[21:20:35] <renkho> also learn a bit of awk and cut was useful this time :D
[21:20:40] <renkho>  cat virtual_domains|awk  {'print $1'}|cut -f2 -d "@"|sort |uniq > domains.local
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[21:21:14] <x-ip> renkho, u are a pro awk user O.o
[21:21:32] <renkho> no :(
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[21:24:57] <renkho> it just found useful that one for select a column
[21:26:12] <renkho> *i
[21:27:25] <rob0> !basic
[21:27:26] <knoba> rob0: 'basic' : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
[21:28:17] <Indy7759> actually, I'm having a somewhat similar problem. I have a local host w/ bugzilla installed and it needs to send mail out. my mail hosting is done by an outside hosting company so when I send email from my internal network, it doesn't have a dns entry for it, so the host bounces it. any suggestions?
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[21:47:45] <kwame> Hi, I followed hughesjr howto on configuring postfix and it's not working
[21:48:06] <kwame> I send an email to my test account, and it does not reach the recipient, but it does not bounces it back
[21:48:14] <kwame> where can I look for troubleshoot?
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[21:54:44] <x-ip> kwame, look at my mom
[21:57:49] <kwame> x-ip: is she good looking?
[21:58:02] <x-ip> pfff
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[21:58:36] <kwame> x-ip: so? is she?
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[21:58:43] <x-ip> yesss
[22:00:10] <cos> kwame: look at the logfile.  tail -f the logfile when you send the email and watch what happens.
[22:00:38] <cos> (postfix uses syslog to log, so look at your syslog.conf if you don't know where mail.* gets logged to)
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[22:07:16] <carlesoriol> Hi. I'm new at postfix. How can I allow send mails from authenticated users only?
[22:08:35] <Zerberus> carlesoriol: http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html | http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html
[22:09:02] <carlesoriol> Zerberus: Thanks
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[22:51:59] <jpaetzel> I'm running postfix with virtual users and dspam and I have a couple of questions, one of which is maybe more of a dspam question.
[22:52:21] <jpaetzel> I have: smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_sasl_authenticated, permit_mynetworks, reject_unauth_destination, check_recipient_access pcre:/us
[22:52:22] <jpaetzel> r/local/etc/postfix/dspam_incoming
[22:52:49] <jpaetzel> Which works fine, except for a small annoyance, in that email to invalid system users gets handed off to dspam.
[22:52:56] <jpaetzel> err, invalid users.
[22:53:48] <jpaetzel> I would think that having reject_unauth_destination listed before dspam would prevent that from happening, but it's not.
[22:55:03] <jpaetzel> And my second question is how the heck do I do server side mail filtering when using the virtual delivery agent?
[22:55:42] <jpaetzel> I was thinking maybe I could get dspam to do final delivery via maildrop, but maybe there's a better way?
[22:57:06] <Zerberus> jpaetzel:  reject_unlisted_recipient
[22:57:45] <jpaetzel> great...thanks. :)
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[23:06:19] <jpaetzel> Zerberus: Any ideas on server-side filtering?
[23:07:26] <Roobarb> sieve
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[23:10:46] <jpaetzel> afaik sieve is going to be no different than procmail or maildrop.
[23:12:33] <jpaetzel> I'm more than willing to be educated here, but my understanding of postfix's virtual delivery agent is it doesn't support such mechanisms.
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