[00:00:21] <Maxxy> Apr 25 17:56:25 dynamite postfix/smtpd[15800]: fatal: parameter "smtpd_recipient_restrictions": specify at least one working instance of: check_relay_domains, reject_unauth_destination, reject, defer or defer_if_permit
[00:00:25] <Maxxy> i think this is the problem
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[00:05:42] <rob0> Certainly you have to fix that problem before you can discover other ones. :)
[00:06:07] <Maxxy> lols
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[00:07:11] <martix> heh
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[00:08:48] <rob0> See "postconf -d smtpd_recipient_restrictions". When you want to add something to the default for ANY postconf(5) parameter, you have to specify the WHOLE parameter in your main.cf file.
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[01:35:01] <sol> hello!  I see in all the readmes that I shouldn't use a "hosted domain" as a 'mydestination'
[01:35:14] <sol> why not?  I've been doing it for the longest time...
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[01:46:56] <lunaphyte> sol: personal preference.
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[01:54:54] <sol> awefully strong wording in these readmes for mere personal preference
[01:55:04] <sol> but alright...
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[02:07:31] <rob0> What is meant in context by "hosted domain"?
[02:08:22] <rob0> And did you see it in a Postfix README, or in some third-party HOWTO?
[02:09:53] <rob0> If a "hosted domain" means it's listed in virtual_mailbox_domains and delivered by virtual(8), indeed, you must not list that in $mydestination.
[02:32:09] <sol> they were all postfix readmes
[02:32:19] <sol> its in VIRTUAL_README
[02:32:36] <sol> anyway, i won't worry about it...things seem to be working alright
[02:32:37] <sol> thanks :)
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[03:45:45] <misc--> ok this is probably not possible, but is there a way to accept messages that would otherwise be rejected because of a sender address verification failure, but tag them as spam or something? I'm sick of admins/users who's return address email does not exist. Mainly automated emails
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[04:05:44] <prologic> hiper, what software or solutions are available to users who wish to have a default blacklisted email account
[04:05:52] <prologic> and only emails they send are added to their whitelist
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[04:33:31] <misc--> when using sender address verification, postfix contacts the remote mail server using postmaster@<fqdn> as its from address I think doesn't it? Why doesn't it use postmaster@<domain name>?
[04:34:46] <misc--> ah its ok I got it
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[07:13:56] <dragophoenixfire>  tethereal tcp port 25, is very revealing. When you have some lame a-hole spamming your server with lots of spam get his ip. telnet to hist ip port 25, i.e. telnet 12.23.293.23 25, if you get a mail header then type ' iptables -A PREROUTING -p tcp  -s 12.23.293.25 --dport 25 -j REDIRECT --to 12.23.293.25:25 '  for laughs...
[07:14:22] <dragophoenixfire> wait .. thats close to being correct the command is.
[07:14:37] <dragophoenixfire> iptables -t nat  -A PREROUTING -p tcp  -s 12.23.293.25 --dport 25 -j REDIRECT --to 12.23.293.25:25
[07:14:42] <dragophoenixfire> anyhow just fun...
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[08:03:30] <sn00p-> Hello, I am having problems with postfix and maildir, I am not be able to ge tmail in my shell, I want to open pine and the mail to be there. but when I send something to the user on my box from outside the box it doesn't go into my shell account it just stuck at /var/log/maillog its in there not in my user directory so I can read it in pine its on freebsd box can anybody help me?
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[08:18:37] <f3ew> sn00p- is it in /var/mail/username?
[08:20:24] <sn00p-> how do I find out?
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[08:24:27] <neko_> check
[08:24:33] <neko_> with like, ls
[08:27:32] <sn00p-> does anybody have a working main.cf for postfix with freebsd I can follow that uses maildir?
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[08:32:04] <f3ew> home_mailbox = Maildir/
[08:32:45] <sn00p-> I do have that
[08:34:08] <f3ew> and no calls to procmail/maildrop ?
[08:34:22] <sn00p-> I dont use procmail
[08:34:50] <f3ew> then the mail should be in ~/Maildir/
[08:35:06] <sn00p-> I know
[08:35:08] <sn00p-> but itsnot
[08:35:22] <f3ew> so what do your logs say?
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[09:26:22] <lars> Hi We are migrating from /etc/passwd mail users to mysql users.. is there any  easy tool/script to convert them ?
[09:26:31] <lars> both with md5 passwords
[09:26:47] <Signum> No because it depends on your database schema. But a little Perl or Python will surely do.
[09:27:32] <lars> okie, we are using the postfixadmin mysql backend
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[10:37:55] <stellina> hi people
[10:38:30] <stellina> I have problem sending mail to a certain mail server
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[10:40:37] <stellina> I get access denied in reply to mail from
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[10:50:13] <[miles]> stellina: can you be a bit more descriptive
[10:50:23] <[miles]> stellina: like the conversation to a pastebin
[10:51:08] <stellina> sure let me grep my logs
[10:51:13] <[miles]> ok
[10:51:24] <stellina> postfix/smtp[19803]: 59F9126E0D6: to=<xantic at telopsys dot com>, relay=mail.telopsys.com[80.76.58.175]:25, delay=168, delays=0.06/167/0.87/0.12, dsn=5.7.1, status=bounced (host mail.telopsys.com[80.76.58.175] said: 550 5.7.1 Access denied (in reply to MAIL FROM command))
[10:51:28] <[miles]> pastebin.ca it ... and clean any info you don't want public
[10:52:54] <stellina> I spoke with the admin from this server and he didn't know why this is happening
[10:52:56] <[miles]> this telopsys is yours?
[10:53:11] <[miles]> ah ok it's not yours
[10:53:15] <stellina> no is the remote server from which I get a access denied
[10:53:35] <[miles]> you sending via postfix from an adsl line?
[10:54:20] <[miles]> also it's saying the MAIL FROM
[10:54:28] <[miles]> check that, do a test via telnet
[10:54:47] <stellina> I did test with telnet
[10:54:57] <stellina> I get the same after mail from
[10:55:16] <stellina> we have enough bandwith
[10:55:17] <Signum> stellina: Funny. They block your emails but don't know why? Apparent they don't like to receive/relay emails for your sender address(es). They must know the reason because they administer their policies and can read their logs.
[10:55:49] <stellina> I know but the admin didn't seem familiar with his sendmail
[10:56:43] <misc--> how can I configure postfix so that certain outbound emails get sent to a different defined transport? Kind of like how I can use the transport file to redirect certain mail to a different transport, I want to do the same with outgoing mails
[10:56:44] <Signum> Threaten him. :)
[10:57:39] <Signum> !tell misc-- transport_maps
[10:57:57] <stellina> mail from:<anything at yahoo dot com>
[10:57:57] <stellina> 550 5.7.1 Access denied
[10:57:58] <misc--> thanks Signum
[10:58:12] <stellina> whatever I right in mail from
[10:58:24] <stellina> it looks like he doesn't like my ip
[10:59:02] <Signum> stellina: Could be anything. It's the ISP's duty to check it. Awkward they don't know how to operate a mail relay.
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[11:04:22] <stellina> I have a lot of poblems with my postfi
[11:04:34] <stellina> high load and large queues
[11:05:26] <stellina> is there any tuning I can do?
[11:06:25] <stellina> I tried playing with the values of the backoff_times , in_flow_delay and concurrency_limit
[11:07:14] <stellina> I also I increased the values of pickup and smtp-amavis
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[11:07:34] <stellina> can I paste my posttconf -n so you can advice me?
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[11:10:16] <Signum> Sure. Use a pastebin.
[11:10:25] <Signum> How many mails do you receive/send in average?
[11:11:43] <stellina> http://rafb.net/p/wzjCaL30.html
[11:12:14] <stellina> I have installed munin so I have some graphs
[11:12:26] <stellina> can I send you the link to check it?
[11:13:25] <stellina> http://rafb.net/p/qhafys17.html
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[11:18:57] <stellina> the high cpu load actually is because of amavis
[11:20:30] <[miles]> sorry stellina I have a server to setup ... bbl
[11:21:27] <stellina> [miles]: np thanx
[11:21:35] <Signum> stellina: amavis drains a lot of power. perhaps you can use another server to run amavis. or not use amavis at all and just rely on RBLs.
[11:22:29] <stellina> Signum: but I need anti-virus and anti-spam...  how can I have both in a large scale system?
[11:23:26] <stellina> what if I pipe all mail to clamd and spamd using glbal maildrop filters? would this be better ? and discard amavis?
[11:23:48] <Signum> stellina: You probably need more power. As I said - use another server for the content scanning. Or just clone that system and use several mail servers behind either a load balancer or by using several MX entries.
[11:24:58] <Signum> stellina: You should run clamd (and not use the command-line version "clamscan") at least.
[11:25:29] <stellina> I'm usin clamd and not clamscan but I'm calling this from amavis
[11:25:53] <Signum> So far so good.
[11:26:35] <telmich> can I tell postfix to use postgresql-socket instead of trying to connect via tcp?
[11:26:57] <stellina> this is a sample htop of my server:
[11:27:00] <stellina> 11857 amavis    17   0  250M 81644  3156 R 54.2  1.9  0:05.45 amavisd (ch2-11857-02-13)
[11:27:00] <stellina> 11982 amavis    16   0  250M 81260  3084 R 54.2  1.9  0:03.51 amavisd (ch2-11982-02-13)
[11:27:00] <stellina> 25158 ldap      25   0 1093M 31044 14008 S 33.9  0.7  5h52:11 /usr/sbin/slapd -h ldap:/// -u ld
[11:27:00] <stellina> 12112 amavis    15   0  251M 82332  3112 R 27.1  1.9  0:02.22 amavisd (ch2-12112-02-2)
[11:27:01] <stellina> 12329 root      16   0 15180  1172   808 R 27.1  0.0  0:00.08 htop
[11:27:02] <stellina> 12257 amavis    15   0  248M 79460  2892 S 20.3  1.9  0:00.31 amavisd (ch1-12257-01)
[11:27:03] <f3ew> telmich yes
[11:27:04] <stellina> 11813 amavis    16   0  252M 83728  3168 S 13.6  2.0  0:07.29 amavisd (ch1-11813-01-30)
[11:27:07] <stellina> sorry for the paste
[11:27:10] <f3ew> hosts = /tmp
[11:28:21] <telmich> f3ew: ahh, simply the path to the directory containig the socket or /tmp always?
[11:29:51] <telmich> ahh, it's in /tmp anyway
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[11:42:33] <OsRo> for 250 domains and 5 mailboxes by each domain, as is better ldap or mysql?
[11:45:51] <prologic> hiper, what software or solutions are available to users who wish to have a default blacklisted email account
[11:45:54] <prologic> and only emails they send are added to their whitelist
[11:47:45] <telmich> tow can I list the full sql-query postfix executes for virtual_maps = pgsql:/my/file?
[11:47:50] <telmich> s/tow/how/
[11:50:09] <neko_> telmich: i'd turn on logging... in pgsql
[11:53:04] <telmich> well, logging is on
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[11:53:25] <telmich> ahh, debug_peer_list could do what I want
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[12:01:28] <rmacd> hi all - very quick question:
[12:02:03] <rmacd> I have a postfix server running amavisd-new, which is working fine. It uses a global mysql database for bayes lookups.
[12:02:32] <f3ew> prologic, tmda with the challenge-response turned off
[12:02:54] <rmacd> Now, I am sending emails back from amavisd-new, with a different email address if they are spam - this is in the syntax user+spam at example dot com
[12:04:30] <rmacd> I wish for this email to be delivered to a folder within the user's inbox, for spam. How can I use postfix to deliver mail to per-user spam folders, as well as the virtual maildirs I have at the moment?
[12:10:10] <OsRo> when shipment a message to a virtual domain, the message is in tail and in mail.log this is written http://rafb.net/p/ibdwgh44.html
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[12:19:35] <CodeX> i am running postfix with TLS all working fine bot only in thunderbird i can send and get mail, in outlook on windows i can get mail but not send
[12:23:33] <CodeX> can some body help me with this ?
[12:23:53] <rmacd> what's in your mail.log?
[12:24:10] <CodeX> relay access deny
[12:25:22] <CodeX> Apr 26 12:25:34 matrix pop3[5959]: accepted connection
[12:25:22] <CodeX> Apr 26 12:25:34 matrix master[5968]: about to exec /usr/lib/cyrus-imapd/pop3d
[12:25:22] <CodeX> Apr 26 12:25:34 matrix pop3[5968]: executed
[12:25:22] <CodeX> Apr 26 12:25:34 matrix pop3[5959]: login: 62.212.134.096.xsdsl.net [62.212.134.96] desant plaintext User logged in
[12:25:22] <CodeX> Apr 26 12:25:54 matrix postfix/smtpd[5964]: warning: 62.212.134.96: hostname 62.212.134.096.xsdsl.net verification failed: Name or service not known
[12:25:25] <CodeX> Apr 26 12:25:54 matrix postfix/smtpd[5964]: connect from unknown[62.212.134.96]
[12:25:27] <CodeX> Apr 26 12:25:54 matrix postfix/smtpd[5964]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from unknown[62.212.134.96]: 454 <info at mirasoft dot nl>: Recipient address rejected: Relay access denied; from=<desant at spotnu dot com> to=<info at mirasoft dot nl> proto=SMTP helo=<mirasoftrafael>
[12:25:31] <CodeX> Apr 26 12:25:54 matrix postfix/smtpd[5964]: disconnect from unknown[62.212.134.96]
[12:27:25] <CodeX> rmacd, i have test it all on linux machine and it work fine
[12:27:27] <rmacd> ok, well that looks to me like you've forgotten to specify mynetworks in main.cf
[12:27:37] <rmacd> that's why it'll deny you to send mail
[12:28:00] <CodeX> mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8
[12:28:30] <rmacd> can you pastebin postconf -n
[12:28:31] <rmacd> ?
[12:29:31] <CodeX> but i have 1 workstation <FC6> and 2 workstation <winxp>
[12:29:58] <CodeX> and from FC6 it OK get and send all
[12:30:05] <CodeX> but win not
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[12:30:51] <ribasushi> hi
[12:31:02] <CodeX> hi
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[12:31:37] <rmacd> ok, well are you sending mail from the local network?
[12:31:41] <ribasushi> is there a way to support extensions (user+box@) with a traditional postfix->procmail->/var/mail/<box> setup?
[12:31:47] <CodeX> no
[12:31:56] <CodeX> server is located in datacenter
[12:31:59] <rmacd> well that's why, then.
[12:32:08] <rmacd> mynetworks is completely wrong
[12:32:16] <rmacd> what's your ip address there then?
[12:33:00] <CodeX> it is som internet IP not local
[12:33:13] <rmacd> no - what's YOUR ip address
[12:33:18] <CodeX> and am using cyrus and sasl
[12:33:37] <rmacd>  - put that IP address you're on at the momnet, into the main.cf under mynetworks.
[12:33:42] <CodeX> oh 62.0.0.0??
[12:33:51] <rmacd> whatever
[12:34:00] <ribasushi> that's a hell of an address :)
[12:34:01] <CodeX> i can see it in log
[12:34:17] <rmacd> and next time, rtfm
[12:34:20] <CodeX>  62.212.134.96
[12:34:37] <rmacd> yeah that'll be it
[12:35:41] <CodeX> mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8 , 62.212.134.0/22
[12:35:56] <CodeX> is this right ?
[12:36:50] <rmacd> no, just specify your own ip address
[12:37:15] <rmacd> presumably you don't want everyone else on the 62.212.134.0/22 subnet relaying mail through your mail server....
[12:37:16] <CodeX> 62.212.134.0/23 it is my ip
[12:37:31] <CodeX> oh
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[12:37:37] <ribasushi> CodeX: your ip is 62.212.134.96
[12:37:55] <ribasushi> if you are sitting at the server right now
[12:37:56] <rmacd> bung that into your postfix main.cf
[12:37:59] <CodeX> yes but i have try it and get some error
[12:38:02] <rmacd> reload and you're donr
[12:38:07] <rmacd> done
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[12:39:33] <skar> hi, i use sasl with dovecot, and the smtpd_sasl_authenticated_header is adding the header with the email address used to auth, can i have just the authed flag/string alone not revealing the user accounts instead?
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[12:41:43] <ribasushi> anyone on my question?
[12:42:15] <rmacd> which was..
[12:42:24] <ribasushi> is there a way to support extensions (user+box@) with a traditional postfix->procmail->/var/mail/<box> setup?
[12:43:25] <rmacd> hah, no idea mate, im ofsky!
[12:43:28] <rmacd> sorry!
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[12:55:57] <OsRo> somebody Spanish speech?
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[12:57:15] <OsRo> I have a problem with ldap, the virtual domains and english
[12:59:50] <neko_> doubt it...
[13:00:10] <lawnchair> donde esta el bano
[13:02:47] <OsRo> i need help in spanish!  :' (
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[13:04:18] <OsRo> in #postfix-es i single :'(
[13:04:51] <||arifaX> CodeX: hows the weather in the netherlands?
[13:05:11] <CodeX> fine
[13:05:13] <CodeX> ))
[13:05:25] <CodeX> dont trace my IP
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[13:06:14] <CodeX> ||arifaX, and how is in Germany ?
[13:06:51] <||arifaX> CodeX: good. are you directly in Utrecht? I did setup the warehouse IT System for Hema in Utrecht
[13:07:56] <CodeX> iam not so far from Utrecht
[13:10:02] <CodeX> ||arifaX, did you study in Utrecht ?
[13:10:38] <||arifaX> CodeX: no I work for a company in germany that builds warehouse complete solutions
[13:10:42] * ||arifaX stops offtopic now
[13:11:22] <OsRo> Apr 26 13:10:31 hatsya-pru postfix/virtual[9184]: fatal: open dictionary: expecting "type:name" form instead of "103"
[13:11:23] <OsRo> Apr 26 13:10:32 hatsya-pru postfix/master[9174]: warning: process /usr/lib/postfix/virtual pid 9184 exit status 1
[13:11:23] <OsRo> Apr 26 13:10:32 hatsya-pru postfix/master[9174]: warning: /usr/lib/postfix/virtual: bad command startup -- throttling
[13:12:01] <OsRo> because?
[13:13:19] <Signum> because your definition of some mapping is incorrect
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[13:14:34] <neko_> it's expecting type:name and getting 103 instead
[13:14:43] <neko_> so search for 103 in your config...
[13:16:26] <OsRo> 103 is uid of user
[13:16:31] <OsRo> http://rafb.net/p/V1ZkJt23.html
[13:16:51] <Signum> OsRo: you probably mean static:103
[13:16:59] <neko_> yeah
[13:19:03] <lars> when passwords is crypted with md5 is there only plain and login that works as authmech's ?
[13:19:57] <skar> hi, i use sasl with dovecot, and the smtpd_sasl_authenticated_header is adding the header with the email address used to auth, can i have just the authed flag/string alone not revealing the user accounts instead?
[13:23:11] <Signum> lars: AFAIK yes.
[13:23:38] <Signum> lars: Not a big problem if you SSL/TLS the whole connection.
[13:24:11] <OsRo> yes!! thank  thank thank thank thank thank neko_ and Signum!!!
[13:24:28] <neko_> np
[13:24:37] <neko_> good luck :)
[13:24:48] <lars> Signum: that rue
[13:24:49] <lars> true
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[13:41:26] <Fullmetal-Mavez> nice hostmask
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[14:04:47] <renato> hi, I was wondering what "POP3 clients that break here, they violate STD53" is all about, anybody knows?
[14:05:38] <flammy> Hi, how do i can have more logging with postfix?
[14:07:29] <renato> Hi, the previous line is about me investigating (neophite) why when I send mail to my mail server I get constantly the error "access denied"
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[14:14:16] <jack404> renato: postfix isn't a pop3 server
[14:15:31] <renato> jack404, it was a cut and paste error, I meant post it on the # courier channel
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[14:29:42] <lunaphyte_> !debug
[14:29:43] <knoba> lunaphyte_: 'debug' : http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html : a good starting point for how to deal with problems and to report information to those who might help. Post your information in a pastebin such as http://pastebin.com/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ .
[14:29:49] <lunaphyte_> flammy: ^^
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[14:32:32] <flammy> lunaphyte, thx.
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[14:37:07] <renato> sorry guys to bugh you all, but in the courier channel probably nobody is currently active  I am trying to send mail to my new set up mail host. So far mail get refused, in the mail log I received Client host rejected: Access denied; has anybody any idea?
[14:37:13] <renato> bug
[14:38:39] <lunaphyte_> renato: pop3 isn't for sending mail.
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[14:41:13] <renato> I know, I am sending mail to my "nnnew server" from my gmail account
[14:41:47] <renato> when the gmail smtp server connects to my pop server, my pop server seems to refuse the connection, with the error I wrote above
[14:42:00] <renato> pop/imail
[14:42:21] <shasta> sigh
[14:42:33] <lunaphyte_> renato: smtp servers don't connect to pop servers.
[14:42:59] <lunaphyte_> what is imail?
[14:43:24] <renato> I wanted to write imap
[14:43:39] <shasta> same story
[14:43:46] <lunaphyte_> smtp servers don't talk to imap servers either.
[14:43:52] <renato> ok, rewind. sorry to be ignorant. What program writes into mail.log?
[14:43:57] <shasta> syslogd :>
[14:44:08] <lunaphyte_> stop being pedantic.
[14:44:17] <lunaphyte_> renato: many programs can write there.
[14:44:44] <lunaphyte_> often it's both an smtp server and a pop or imap server.
[14:44:51] <lunaphyte_> or it could be all three.
[14:44:52] <renato> ok, in your opinion, the following message:  NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from nz-out-0506.google.com[64.233.162.230]: 554 5.7.1 <nz-out-0506.google.com[64.233.162.230]>: Client host rejected: Access denied; from=<rdallarmi at gmail dot com> to=<rdallarmi at eudealers dot com> proto=ESMTP helo=<nz-out-0506.google.com>
[14:45:00] <renato> originates from what program?
[14:45:07] <lunaphyte_> postfix.
[14:45:12] <shasta> renato: see beginning of that line
[14:45:39] <renato> NOQUEUE?
[14:45:40] <shasta> there's date, hostname, and app_name[pid]
[14:45:54] <renato> ok, got it
[14:46:37] <renato> now postfix ir not allowing google to connect, given that message, it is the host (google?) to be rejected or the account to be rejected?
[14:47:14] <renato> for what I can see it seems the "host" but is the host "gmail" or "eudealers"?
[14:47:17] <lunaphyte_> host -> Client host rejected:
[14:47:30] <lunaphyte_> the host is 64.233.162.230
[14:47:41] <renato> that is gmail
[14:47:42] <renato> ok
[14:48:37] <lunaphyte_> are you trying to accept mail for addresses that end in eudealers.com?
[14:49:03] <renato> I went trough  postfix "main.cf" but I could not find a rule discriminating google,  any hint?
[14:50:05] <lunaphyte_> hint:  postfix will probably say that to most hosts connecting, not just google.
[14:50:41] <shasta> postconf -n smtpd_client_restrictions
[14:50:55] <shasta> blah
[14:51:14] <shasta> postconf smtpd_client_restrictions
[14:51:37] <renato> if I run that it returns "smtpd_client_restrictions ="
[14:51:58] <lunaphyte_> !basic
[14:51:58] <knoba> lunaphyte_: 'basic' : http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html : a good starting place for Postfix beginners, many common questions are answered here.
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[14:53:07] <shasta> pastebin your postconf -n
[14:54:22] <renato> the row with smtpd_client_restrictions   was behind a comment (likey I have deleted the new line) so it  was not used. it seems like (and this seems counter intuitive) that if I do not specify any client restriction, all client get cut out...
[14:58:15] <renato> I have not done this in quite some time (as it shows) for forcing postfix to re read  main.cf is "postfix reload" the way to go?
[15:02:23] <lysander> yeah
[15:02:36] <lysander> postfix check ? :)
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[15:07:01] <docwhat> Hello!
[15:07:30] <Zaw> mornin'
[15:08:47] <docwhat> I'm getting emails from spammers without the user portion, such as @foo.com.  Can I block these before they get sent to amavis?
[15:10:23] <f3ew> yes
[15:10:31] <docwhat> :-)
[15:11:08] <Zaw> most certainly
[15:11:42] <docwhat> I have a check_recipient_acess hash, but I'm not sure how to write a hash expression to match....
[15:11:48] <renato> run   postconf smtpd_client_restrictions I get: smtpd_client_restrictions = reject_rbl_client sbl.spamhaus.org, reject_rbl_client relays.ordb.org, reject_rbl_client blackholes.easynet.nl,  reject_rbl_client dnsbl.njabl.org, still if I am trying to send to myself a mail from google I get: Apr 26 15:09:42 server postfix/smtpd[4806]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from nz-out-0506.google.com[64.233.162.228]: 554 5.7.1
[15:11:48] <renato> <nz-out-0506.google.com[64.233.162.228]>: Client host rejected: Access denied; from=<rdallarmi at gmail dot com> to=<rdallarmi at eudealers dot com> proto=ESMTP helo=<nz-out-0506.google.com>
[15:11:51] <docwhat> Otherwise, is there a flag?
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[15:18:14] <||arifaX> can someone tellme what the "\Flagged flag" means and howto setup/use it. I read about it on ipurge command but find no details anywhere
[15:20:06] <CodeX> nee help postfix working fine, in thunderbird i can send and get mail and in outlook i gan get only
[15:20:45] <CodeX> in outlook is no TLS
[15:22:59] <CodeX> is there any option to fix this problem
[15:29:49] <Mavvie> heh... nearly got a solution for my problem.
[15:30:24] <Mavvie> now I see it interferes with address_verification.
[15:32:15] <CodeX> Mavvie, ??
[15:35:34] <Mavvie> aha, it can be done via address_verify_relayhost
[15:38:03] <CodeX> oky but if not so good solution cause i have not local users for it but geographical
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[17:21:44] <TheInfinity> hello ... one question ... is it possible to use postfix as a intranet relay server? meaning getting mails from intranet and sending them to the MTA of my ISP which has the domain from where the mails should be sent?
[17:22:17] <TheInfinity> in other words something like an smtp forwarding service just to 1 server
[17:23:05] <UQlev> TheInfinity: too costly for this particular function
[17:23:33] <UQlev> TheInfinity: 5th wheel in a cart
[17:23:56] <Signum> Why? I find it perfectly reasonable.
[17:24:28] <TheInfinity> do you know an application which has this function?
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[17:24:42] <TheInfinity> because its just a intranet server in a little company with a dialup connection
[17:24:51] <UQlev> TheInfinity: any mail-client do so
[17:24:56] <TheInfinity> so i have no chance to get a mx record
[17:25:14] <TheInfinity> mail client needs passwords if i send directly
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[17:25:58] <TheInfinity> a password which the management of this little company does not want on clients (which is - i think - a good idea to act like this)
[17:26:51] <UQlev> TheInfinity: so your relay should have smtp-auth?
[17:27:16] <TheInfinity> my intranet relay should not have any auth
[17:27:35] <TheInfinity> but its only awaiable for intranet
[17:28:36] <TheInfinity> the problem is that you can do everything with this password from the ISP, not only getting mails
[17:28:57] <TheInfinity> thats why this PW has nothing to do on clients
[17:30:50] <UQlev> TheInfinity: how many clients?
[17:31:02] <TheInfinity> its one of this damn mail adresses which you get when you get an account at your ISP - and this company uses it for years, so changing it will take veeery long
[17:31:13] <TheInfinity> 5 clients + sometimes private laptops
[17:31:39] <||arifaX> can I also ask a question about sieve or sievescripts here?
[17:32:48] <UQlev> TheInfinity: you may configure their mail-clients (smtp to authenticate with this username and password) and your clients will not even know it
[17:33:25] <TheInfinity> i use thunderbird because its a linux / winxp dual boot network
[17:33:40] <TheInfinity> and you can see passwords in options of thunderbird ;)
[17:34:02] <TheInfinity> and private laptops are disconnected at all ...
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[17:35:02] <TheInfinity> ... as i see i have to create something like an half-solution because this problem - although it exists in many little companys - is not planned? just like mails on every computer ... now i use a local imapserver, but this has also problems ... also a thing which does not exist - a good solution to this ;)
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[17:36:56] <jpwhiting> hi all, anyone want to help me debug postfix talking to sasl issue?
[17:37:08] <UQlev> TheInfinity: I had the same configuration 6 years ago: dial-up connection, local relay sending to ISP, corporate pop3 account etc. It will collect a lot of spam
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[17:37:53] <jpwhiting> testsasl returns ok, but smtp always says auth failed
[17:38:08] <TheInfinity> why spam? the local relay is not visible to internet?
[17:38:30] <UQlev> TheInfinity: how will you receive mails? from Yahoo?
[17:38:36] <TheInfinity> and the mailadress is on a website, so i have spamassasign and the spamhunter from t-online
[17:38:56] <TheInfinity> gives quite good results, almost no spam
[17:39:22] <jpwhiting> but I can't see what postfix is doing to try to run sasl authentication or whatever
[17:39:27] <jpwhiting> or to talk to sasl
[17:40:30] <UQlev> TheInfinity: do you have only 1 e-mail address for all?
[17:40:31] <TheInfinity> t-online.de is this ISP where many little germany companys have there mail adresses
[17:41:04] <TheInfinity> yes - its a incorporated society which fast changing personal
[17:41:21] <TheInfinity> usernames dont make sense for most mails
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[17:42:15] <TheInfinity> the comnputers also have autologin for example because usernames will fail dramaticly
[17:43:03] <UQlev> TheInfinity: it means no responsibility on staff
[17:44:27] <TheInfinity> i make lots of backups to minimize the risk that an idiot deletes all the data / mails
[17:45:02] <TheInfinity> but deleting the mail account at t-online is something which i cant make back - and this would be possible with the smtp password ...
[17:45:17] * UQlev winders good country Germany if can employ idiots ;)
[17:46:20] <TheInfinity> there have also people access which are not paied, social work and so on
[17:47:08] <UQlev> TheInfinity: well then seems you need have local server for relay
[17:47:28] <TheInfinity> an incorporated society like its in book for children - quite nice to work there because all follow the same idea, but in every group you can find idiots at all ...
[17:48:16] <TheInfinity> yes - thats why i search for this - a local server for relaying just to one server - the server of this ISP ...
[17:50:28] <Roobarb> relayhost = <IP pf ISP's server>
[17:50:37] <Roobarb> s/pf/of
[17:50:46] <sean_micken> are bounce messages from other servers handled different by the recieinving mail server any different than a normal message?
[17:51:18] <TheInfinity> and what about the login?
[17:51:39] <TheInfinity> the ISP needs user / pass ...
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[18:00:06] <Roobarb> TheInfinity: to _send_ mail?
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[18:01:04] <UQlev> Roobarb: yes his ISP needs smtp-auth on his part
[18:02:27] <Roobarb> smtp_sasl_password_maps
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[18:06:09] <TheInfinity> Roobarb: i just found a tutorial for postfix ...
[18:06:16] <TheInfinity> http://postfix.state-of-mind.de/patrick.koetter/smtpauth/smtp_auth_mailservers.html
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[19:19:43] <JoelSolanki> Hi all
[19:19:49] <JoelSolanki> i have a quick question
[19:21:50] <JoelSolanki> can postfix save all incoming mails and outgoing mails to specific email id or directory ?
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[19:26:00] <devdas> !always_bcc
[19:26:01] <knoba> devdas: 'always_bcc' : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: Optional address that receives a "blind carbon copy" of each message that is received by the Postfix mail system.
[19:26:04] <devdas> oh, he leftr
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[19:38:42] <backz> hi guys
[19:39:11] <backz> I've a webserver that send mail using a local postfix and an account from a remote postfix
[19:39:43] <backz> must I use relay to it?
[19:42:22] <devdas> no
[19:42:23] <backz> are you alive?
[19:42:35] <backz> devdas, what I must do?
[19:42:57] <devdas> backz: just send it on
[19:43:05] <backz> ok
[19:43:20] <backz> but if user reply this message
[19:44:03] <backz> the smtp returns: PERM_FAILURE: DNS Error: Domain name not found
[19:44:22] <backz> or, if my destionation is a stric smtp server, it returns: Sender address rejected: Domain not found
[19:44:37] <backz> but if this same user create a new message, and send it to this mail
[19:44:47] <backz> I received
[19:45:18] <backz> because it don't pass through my smtp server on webserver
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[19:46:08] <backz> devdas, any ideas?
[19:47:13] <devdas> backz: set myorigin correctly
[19:48:01] <backz> but this mailbox don't exists on this machine
[19:51:21] <devdas> irrelevant
[19:52:41] <backz> then, if I go to mail
[19:52:45] <backz> on dreamhost
[19:52:54] <backz> write I new message for another mail address
[19:53:05] <backz> I comes to my inbox
[19:53:21] <backz> but, If my webserver send mail for this mail address
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[19:53:33] <backz> the mail.log from this return: Sender address rejected: Domain not found
[19:53:37] <backz> what's the problem?
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[20:07:08] <backz> why I get it?
[20:07:18] <backz> relay=mx2.balanced.spacey.mail.dreamhost.com[208.97.132.76], delay=1, status=bounced (host mx2.balanced.spacey.mail.dreamhost.com[208.97.132.76] said: 554 <daniel at xxx dot com>: Relay access denied (in reply to RCPT TO command))
[20:07:26] <backz> Relay access denied
[20:07:47] <backz> but I put smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes
[20:08:01] <backz> and smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl/sasl
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[20:10:50] <skar> hi, i use sasl with dovecot, and the smtpd_sasl_authenticated_header is adding the header with the email address used to auth, can i have just the authed flag/string alone not revealing the user accounts instead?
[20:10:55] <ribasushi> hi
[20:11:48] <ribasushi> I want to get values for $mydestination from a text file
[20:11:58] <ribasushi> th manual says I should use a hash table where only keys are significant
[20:12:45] <ribasushi> is there a way to avoid entries like: <domain> 'dummy_placeholder' so postmap won't complain?
[20:13:04] <ribasushi> or I always must specify something as a key value when using hash:
[20:13:07] <ribasushi> ?
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[20:34:50] <earthian_> hello, how do i add a domain to a blacklist?
[20:35:05] <earthian_> so all mails from that domain would get refused by the server automatically
[20:35:27] <rob0> SMTPD_ACCESS_README.html
[20:35:57] <earthian_> ?
[20:36:05] <earthian_> where do i find that file?
[20:36:06] <earthian_> :/
[20:36:26] <devdas> !cheatsheet
[20:36:27] <knoba> devdas: 'cheatsheet' : http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt : A HOWTO for pre-DATA spam control.
[20:36:32] <devdas> !check_sender_access
[20:36:32] <knoba> devdas: Error: "check_sender_access" is not a valid command.
[20:36:41] <rob0> probably on your own system, but also at www.postfix.org
[20:36:41] <devdas> !smtpd_access_readme
[20:36:42] <knoba> devdas: Error: "smtpd_access_readme" is not a valid command.
[20:37:00] <devdas> http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_ACCESS_README.html
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[20:43:17] <earthian_> uhh
[20:43:22] <earthian_> so much info :/
[20:43:26] <earthian_> so much spam
[20:43:28] <earthian_> :\
[20:44:17] <devdas> check_sender_access
[20:48:57] <rob0> Arrrgh! Thwapped yet again!!
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[20:53:59] <dsdg> wow, can a greylist stop my postfix? said: 450 4.7.1 - Recipient address rejected: Greylisted for 2 minutes ?
[20:54:19] <sep> dsdg, that's the whole purpose of greylists
[20:54:44] <dsdg> sep, check this: wired: 2/14/1.4, dsn=4.7.1, status=deferred (host smtp.adept.co.za[196.44.32.151] said: 450 4.7.1 <alida at scandisplayct dot co.za>: Recipient address rejected: Greylisted for 2 minutes (in reply to RCPT TO command))
[20:54:44] <dsdg> Apr 27 02:12:31 server postfix/postfix-script: stopping the Postfix mail system
[20:54:44] <dsdg> Apr 27 02:12:31 server postfix/master[14117]: terminating on signal 15
[20:54:56] <sep> a real mailserver tries angain and is successfull, a owned windows spawn bot just goes to the next address in line
[20:54:59] <dsdg> why do my postfix stop after the greylist?
[20:55:11] <sep> coincidence i belive the 2 are unrelated
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[20:57:06] <dsdg> so wth is signal 15?
[20:57:12] <sep> signal 15 is SIGTERM so it simply looks like someone stopped it either a reboot or a /etc/init.d/postfix stop
[20:58:35] <dsdg> i am on the box, it wasnt me..
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[21:00:18] <earthian_> hm
[21:00:37] <earthian_> i think i have fuked up my restriction on main.cf
[21:00:37] <earthian_> :/
[21:01:02] <dsdg> heheh
[21:01:14] <earthian_> do you know any easy-to-understand guide/source where i could find how to set all the restrictions correctly
[21:01:21] <earthian_> and to block spam.
[21:01:30] <earthian_> ?
[21:01:52] <hparker> !cheatsheet
[21:01:52] <knoba> hparker: 'cheatsheet' : http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt : A HOWTO for pre-DATA spam control.
[21:02:04] <hparker> earthian_: That's a good start ^^^
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[21:04:31] <earthian_> do you know if debian etch postfix has the pcre: buildin?
[21:05:30] * hparker has no debian experience, but knows if the docs are read there are ways to see what is supported
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[21:05:40] <earthian_> kk
[21:05:50] <earthian_> then i ask in #debian :p
[21:05:54] <mordaunt> anyone know any good ways to cut down on backscatter?
[21:06:12] <hparker> !backscatter
[21:06:12] <knoba> hparker: 'backscatter' : http://www.postfix.org/BACKSCATTER_README.html
[21:06:23] <sirion2> hi
[21:06:41] <mordaunt> i read it =). i'm just worried about the overhead of regexping that many emails
[21:07:11] <sirion2> i can't use local users ans virtual user with the same domaine name on virtual_domaine and mydomain
[21:07:15] <hparker> Try it, too much load, remove it
[21:07:22] <sirion2> someone can help me ?
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[21:20:33] <DickensCider> Hello everyone
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[21:33:38] <Kurin> Is there a way to require tls except when the connection is coming from localhost?
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[21:54:04] <rmacd> Evening all
[21:57:01] <rmacd> Just needing a quick hint from someone on here - I'm looking at mail filtering at the moment, and it seems I can do this using maildrop. However, is there a way of doing this within postfix itself? I've already got amavisd running for quite a while with spam filtering, I'm just looking for per-user spam filters now.
[21:57:32] <devdas> no
[21:57:40] <rmacd> shit, no, that makes no sense - I'm trying to deliver mail tagged as spam to the correct users now
[21:57:54] <rmacd> Ah ok, thanks devdas!
[21:58:04] <rmacd> what do you use for mail filtering, devdas?
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[22:57:07] <flami> Hi, ( though this might be a bit offtopic) I try to run amavis to look up policies with mysql , I basically just need the @lookup_sql_dsn and then $sql_select_policy ? or do i need more tables then just the one I need to select the right policy for the user ?
[23:00:20] <devdas> yes
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[23:02:01] <fholmes_laptop> I have postfix setup using SSL.  I have generated my own certificates on my server.  Now how do I get my users outlook to quit complaining when they try to send an email?
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[23:04:16] <flami> ok my problem was that i didnt set $sql_select_white_black_list = udef ^^
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[23:05:41] <flami> install the CA root certificate ? you mean that ?
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[23:05:55] <flami> ... fholmes_laptop
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[23:06:41] <fholmes_laptop> yes, I thought that is what you were supposed to do.
[23:06:50] <fholmes_laptop> Maybe I have tried to install the wrong file.
[23:10:40] <flami> hum I use Cacert to sign my certs ^^ for weenydows you need to convert the CA into another format
[23:11:09] <flami> wait I have it written down somewhere ^^
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[23:13:29] <chronos> good night/afternoon
[23:14:12] <chronos> I have a mailing application, and have much emails that as invalid, not by 'addres', but not exists on servers.
[23:14:31] <chronos> postfix receive replyes of this emails, right?
[23:15:26] <flami> fholmes_laptop goto the folder where you saved your ssl CA cert
[23:15:29] <chronos> have some application on any language that works with postfix to identify these emails and/or manipulate errors, etc?
[23:16:05] <flami> then run openssl x509 -in cacert.pem -oui cacert.der -outform DER
[23:16:35] <flami> that makes a MS conform CAcert ^^
[23:16:49] <flami> this one hsould be ok to give to the poor windows users
[23:17:12] <flami> they just need to double click it and isntall it
[23:17:16] <Mathman> so would you all recommend a sendmail to postfix migration?
[23:17:25] <flami> yep :P
[23:17:46] <Mathman> I just got put in charge of a mail server
[23:17:58] <Mathman> and the thing is already flakey
[23:18:01] <flami> sendmail is from the early age of the internet when there were no hackers and script kiddies ^^
[23:18:34] <Mathman> flami: so am I looking at a whole lot of work to get moved over?  I don't suppose you'd have a guide handy would you?
[23:19:01] <flami> uhm well I heard that its not THAATT hard to switch from sendmail to postfix
[23:19:19] <flami> postfix tries to keep the compatibility high
[23:20:47] <flami> and I think switching MTA depends on the setup :/, I guess google is your friend
[23:21:08] <Mathman> yeah, it's not turning up a whole lot so far though
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[23:23:46] <Indy7759> I have a small (very small) network. our main mail handling is done through a paid host. However, locally we're running bugzilla which needs to send emails out (and various other scripts we're running). So far I've not been able to get postfix in the right configuration to get mail out. Can anyone point me to a good tutorial or documentation? I'd really appreciate it.
[23:24:40] <flami> mathman what need to be moved then ?
[23:25:34] <Mathman> flami: well, mailman, horde, request tracker stuff, blacklists I'm thinking, maybe some spam junk.  perhaps some other stuff too
[23:26:25] <flami> I dont think tmailman and horde will notice when you switch , they use sendmail i guess ?
[23:26:40] <Mathman> yeah, sendmail
[23:26:43] <flami> to fight spam and viruses i think amavis + spamassassin is ok
[23:27:01] <flami> yes posfix has a sendmail binary that works like the sendmail sendmail ^^
[23:27:24] <Mathman> well I was seeing dspam in the aliases, but I'm not sure it's even on or what
[23:27:32] <Mathman> not just yet anyway
[23:28:15] <flami> I think amavis is quite handy because it managesd your SA and all your virusscanners and does some other nice stuff .
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[23:28:26] <fholmes_laptop> flami:  Thanks.  That worked.
[23:28:42] <Mathman> oh, right, virus scanners of course.  think we go with clamav or whatever
[23:28:45] <flami> np ( hehe I love my postfix book ^^ )
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[23:28:53] <flami> yeah clamav is quite good
[23:29:10] <Mathman> ah well.  I'll just keep hitting up google.  this is probably going to take me months though
[23:29:22] <flami> http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/
[23:29:28] <flami> this is a great tool
[23:29:47] <flami> what OS you using ? ( debian maybe ? ^^ )
[23:30:23] <Mathman> red hat
[23:30:26] <flami> the blacklists , you mean like RBL ?
[23:30:36] <flami> I guess you can isntall amavisd-new
[23:30:52] <flami> thats the best amavis fork ( i think)
[23:31:14] <Mathman> not even sure about the blacklists to be honest
[23:31:20] <flami> this will save you alot to get a good antispam - virus system
[23:31:36] <flami> including blacklists like spamhaus is really easy in postfix
[23:32:19] <flami> if people have their own blacklist this might be trickier, you can include them in amavis though .
[23:32:30] <Mathman> yeah well, like I say, sounds like I just have a lot of reading to do.  you definitely think it's worth the switch though?
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[23:34:24] <flami> well yes point of view security .
[23:35:03] <flami> the book of postfix is a book i really like
[23:36:06] <flami> nixcartel.org/~devdas/postfix.html these tutorials may help
[23:36:47] <flami> its not about switching , but they should give you a nice setup . I spend most of the time in antispam measures
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[23:45:35] <ptomter> postfix wouldn start when I reboot what is the command line that I should use to make postfix start when I reboot
[23:46:49] <flami> ptomter http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=linux+start+on+boot&btnG=Google+Search
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