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[00:12:47] <aluchko> I think I have something configured in my main.cf, I've gotten a couple spams from mail@<mydomain> and can't figure out why my mailserver is delivering them
[00:12:59] <aluchko> s/configured/misconfigured
[00:13:59] <aluchko> http://rafb.net/p/zpdcJQ82.html
[00:17:17] <sysmonk> aluchko: don't worry, you'll get more of them!
[00:17:18] <sysmonk> ;)
[00:18:06] <aluchko> sysmonk, yay! ...
[00:19:02] <sysmonk> aluchko: you don't have any antispam filtering.
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[00:20:01] <sysmonk> + if you're scared of spam being FROM your domain, don't worry - it's just a From header, anybody can change that
[00:20:13] <sysmonk> i can send you a mail from president at whitehouse dot gov or anything like that
[00:20:16] <aluchko> sysmonk, probably something to change (I've been using client side filtering so far)
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[00:20:48] <aluchko> sysmonk, I know the from headers can be forged but I didn't think my mailserver would deliver mail forged to its own domain
[00:21:35] <sysmonk> aluchko: why not? if you're working in some other country and don't have a direct access to your mail server, you will use your ISP's mail server, and send an email with a from: you at yourdomain dot com
[00:21:46] <sysmonk> how could postfix know that it's not you
[00:22:34] <sysmonk> argh, anyway, i'm going out to watch a movie, afk
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[00:22:59] <aluchko> I have port 25 open and (think) I have authenticated smpt, why would they need to use another mail server?
[00:23:06] <aluchko> sysmonk, ok, thanks for the help
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[01:20:57] <zention> Hi, anyway to list the aliases that postfix thinks it can deliver to?
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[01:25:37] <zention> ok I think I have worked out what is going on
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[01:31:02] <lexton> hi all
[01:31:28] <lexton> it appears a spambot has hacked my mail server and has creted a -> .:  directory
[01:31:39] <lexton> although I can't 'cd' into it
[01:31:46] <lexton> anyone else every see this?
[01:32:04] <lexton> has files such as this in the directory -> /sendspam/ebay.php
[01:32:42] <zention> yeah there is a way to get at that directory
[01:33:11] <lexton> I'm not finding anything on google about this spam exploit
[01:33:22] <lexton> zention, how?
[01:33:30] <zention> try tab completion and '' single quotes
[01:33:43] <zention> I think there is another method but I tend to forget it
[01:33:56] <lexton> tried tab completion
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[01:34:16] <zention> single quote, \ is another
[01:34:24] <zention> though there is one that always works
[01:34:54] <lexton> escaping doesn't work
[01:35:00] <lexton> single quote don't work
[01:35:04] <zention> hold on got it
[01:35:29] <zention> ok the directory is named .:
[01:35:33] <zention> correct?
[01:36:07] <lexton> yes
[01:36:10] <zention> oh you can go into those
[01:36:13] <zention> cd .:
[01:36:21] <lexton> I tried that, doesn't work
[01:36:37] <lexton> and the permission don't see odd and I'm root right now
[01:36:44] <zention> chattr .:
[01:36:50] <zention> chkattr
[01:37:06] <zention> the hard ones are the - ones
[01:37:45] <zention> sorry lsattr
[01:38:19] <zention> lsattr -d .:
[01:38:54] <lexton> this is a mac os x box, openbsd base
[01:39:37] <zention> xattr --list
[01:40:50] <zention> ls -le
[01:41:15] <zention> I am reading up on extended attributes so you might just want to look it up yourself
[01:41:23] <lexton> ok thanks
[01:41:35] <zention> ACL is a gooed word to add to the search
[01:41:41] <zention> http://arstechnica.com/reviews/os/macosx-10.4.ars/8
[01:44:24] <zention> if you get a - or -- one then ./ helps but there is a way using dashes to signify they are not part of an option
[01:46:12] <zention> so touch ./-hello && rm -hello leaves hello but rm -- -hello gets rid of it as does rm ./-hello
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[01:58:24] <lexton> zention, thanks for your suggestions
[01:58:32] <lexton> the directory is named -> cd '.:  '/
[01:58:36] <lexton> and now I'm in
[02:07:57] <zention> sneaky
[02:09:14] <zention> phew home.com is now a sitting domain
[02:09:25] <zention> I have a tendancy to use home.com when testing email
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[02:20:10] <lexton> here's the virus http://www.viruslist.com/en/viruslist.html?id=48280
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[04:46:17] <sfullenwider> what's the simplest way to get postfix to send mail on a different port?
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[04:49:21] <hparker> What?
[04:49:38] <sfullenwider> http://www.no-ip.com/support/faq/EN/smtp/settings_for_alternate_port_smtp.html
[04:49:59] <sfullenwider> port 25 outgoing is blocked, I need to send on 3325, yet nowhere have I specified to send to an alternate port.
[04:54:45] <hparker> sfullenwider: Looking at http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html#client_sasl it looks as if it's smtp-server:port
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[06:05:13] <ipvsadm> guys, why my outbound email kept add localhost.$mydomain instead of $mydomain. Example: test at localhost dot abc.com instead of test at abc dot com
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[10:00:57] <k1ckn1ck> i am currently using courier for email server, recently used apt-get on debina and getting the following error  localhost courierpop3login: authdaemon: s_connect() failed: Connection refused
[10:01:39] <lawnchair> thats not a postfix issue
[10:01:50] <lawnchair> BUT... your courier-authdaemon probably is not running
[10:01:58] <lawnchair> /etc/init.d/courier-authdaemon restart
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[10:02:45] <k1ckn1ck> tried that, it says started and thats it
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[10:03:48] <lawnchair> well, time to join #courier then
[10:03:55] <lawnchair> like i said before - not a postfix thing
[10:04:10] <k1ckn1ck> ok thx :)
[10:05:05] <lawnchair> check your logs
[10:05:42] <k1ckn1ck> have done getting error libauthmysql.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:05:51] <lawnchair> well there you go man
[10:05:52] <k1ckn1ck> just asked for help in courier
[10:05:55] <lawnchair> ou dont have libauthmysql
[10:05:57] <lawnchair> s/ou/you
[10:06:14] <k1ckn1ck> oh
[10:06:23] <lawnchair> apt-cache search for it
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[10:06:38] <k1ckn1ck> honestly did not even think of that thank you :D
[10:10:15] <k1ckn1ck> cannot find libauthmysql at all withing the system and cannot do an apt-get install libauthmysql
[10:12:25] <lawnchair> courier-authlib-dev courier-authlib-mysql
[10:12:29] <lawnchair> install those 2 packages
[10:12:34] <milligan> Problem: I have defined mynetworks_style = host in main.cf .. However, postfix is letting this computer relay .. Im on the same subnet, but I don't have the same ip . What could be causing that ?
[10:13:27] <milligan> It passes the relay check on abuse.net though, so I have no idea what's happening.
[10:19:07] <lawnchair> so youre saying your entire subnet can use your mailserver
[10:22:00] <ptomter> I have installed postfix, and I thought it was working ok but my ISP called to they beacause they have the MX mail servers and they said that port 25 is blocked where can I open this port?
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[10:22:25] <lawnchair> your firewall?
[10:22:39] <lawnchair> router? port forwarding?
[10:31:58] <ptomter> on the old server it says that
[10:31:58] <ptomter> tcp        0      0 mail:imap
[10:32:26] <ptomter> in netstat but in the new server it doesent what should I do
[10:32:33] <lawnchair> uh thats imap
[10:32:38] <lawnchair> again... not postfix
[10:32:42] <lawnchair> jesus
[10:32:51] <lawnchair> i mean im happy to help and all
[10:33:00] <lawnchair> but know what apps run on which ports
[10:34:18] <milligan> ptomter, port 25 is smtp. If your isp called you and said that they have blocked port 25, that means that they are enforcing you to use their smtp server.
[10:34:48] <milligan> ptomter, if you are running a mailserver on your own computer, I think that rule is bypassed.
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[10:38:59] <[miles]> morning #postfix
[10:39:15] <[miles]> I've got a weird problem, and wondered if anyone has encountered this themselves before:
[10:39:18] <[miles]> Apr 23 10:32:18 spamwall postfix/trivial-rewrite[9124]: warning: dict_ldap_lookup: Search error 34: Invalid DN syntax
[10:39:37] <ptomter> My Isp says that I can use port 25 but they say that I have blocked it on my computer, so where can the error be?
[10:39:44] <[miles]> it's only coming from one domain.. also it's causing double bounces... loads of em...
[10:39:59] <lawnchair> ptomter, router/firewall/lack of port forwarding/etc
[10:40:23] <[miles]> but all other mail enterning the anti-spam system is 110%
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[10:53:30] <[miles]> anyone assist?
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[11:02:33] <ptomter> in postfix is there possible to set mx servers that are located on another place
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[11:08:30] <[miles]> ptomter: postfix does not control the MX, DNS controls MX
[11:11:21] <ZimmY_> my postfixadmin mysql databse, i am having troube finding the databse using dovecot
[11:12:13] <ZimmY_> also i changed the httpd.cong and set some AllowOverride = All and my postfixadmin is working by gui on mail.zimmy.us
[11:15:35] <Ciaran_H> "08:34 < milligan> ptomter, if you are running a mailserver on your own computer, I think that rule is bypassed." -- for what it's worth, no, it's not, because that mail server still has to send to another mail server and it'll try to connect to it. ;)
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[11:16:50] <milligan> Ah, yeah, you're eright.
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[11:19:46] <dfjoerg> can I get postfix to save a full copy of every message rejected by a different mail server?
[11:23:53] <f3ew> dfjoerg, tough
[11:24:18] <f3ew> you could save all messages, and then delete the ones which passed by running a suitable script through your logs
[11:39:51] <js_> how can i set the maximum size of a mail?
[11:40:03] <js_> i need to be able to send up to 50mb mails
[11:41:59] <ioii> hi . what can cause a PERM_FAILURE (554) error ?
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[11:56:58] <Roobarb> js_: message_size_limit
[11:57:19] <Roobarb> ioii: can you paste the log entry as it appears in the mail log ?
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[12:04:40] <misc--> what does "Recipient address rejected: Domain not found" mean?
[12:06:14] <Roobarb> The recipient address of an email sent to your server is not in the list of allowed domains for you server to accept mail for, I suspect
[12:07:21] <misc--> so for example, this is the whole message:
[12:08:59] <misc--> reject: RCPT from imta02sl.mx.bigpond.com[144.140.93.139]: 450 <user at bigpond dot net.au>: Sender address rejected: unverified address: Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=bigpond.net.au type=MX: Host not found, try again; from=<user at bigpond dot net.au> to=<user at my-domain dot com> proto=SMTP helo=<imta02sl.mx.bigpond.com>
[12:09:20] <misc--> my-domain.com is where my domain is hosted (on the current postfix server)...
[12:09:37] <misc--> it looks like such an easy message to debug but I can't exactly work out what it can't find
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[12:09:45] <Roobarb> Sender address rejected
[12:09:56] <Roobarb> thats very different to what you said earlier
[12:10:13] <misc--> yeah... but it still says that the host or domain name is not found, I thought they are related
[12:10:24] <Roobarb> sender != recipient
[12:10:32] <f3ew> your host cannot resolve bigpond.net.au
[12:10:33] <soultan> hello. i used to run postfix+amavisd-new+clamav+spamassassin and i got like 100s of spams every day. then i installed postgrey, and now i get no spams at all. do i still need to run amavisd-new+clamav+spamassassin or is that just slowing down my system now?
[12:10:36] <misc--> ohh, sorry
[12:10:50] <misc--> actually I am getting two messages
[12:11:04] <Roobarb> bigpond.net.au doesn't appear to have and DNS entries, hence the rejection
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[12:11:21] <misc--> but if you dig mx, it does...
[12:11:35] <Roobarb> misc--: not here it doesn't
[12:11:41] <misc--> wow ok...
[12:11:56] <Roobarb> alright, it does
[12:12:14] <Roobarb> but that implies the authoritative servers for that domain are broken
[12:13:00] <Roobarb> notice that Postfix gave a 4xx error code - non fatal.
[12:13:15] <Roobarb> the sending server should retry at some point
[12:13:27] <misc--> yeah... the NS for that domain is 61.9.128.17 and doing dig mx bigpond.com @61.9.128.17 reveals problems
[12:13:44] <misc--> ah yes 4xx is temporary isn't it
[12:14:41] <misc--> so nothing I can do about it then. Just that bigpond are fairly reliable, but oh well. As long as its not on my end
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[12:15:09] <Roobarb> other than removing the check you have, you can't do much
[12:16:03] <misc--> ok no worries thanks for the help.
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[12:50:33] <milligan> Does anyone here use an autoresponder with postfix?
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[13:00:28] <flart> autoresponders == root of evil
[13:00:31] <flart> *scnr*
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[13:07:20] <milligan> I can imagine they cause a bit of a mess here and there,yes. But you know .. some people have their needs.
[13:07:36] <milligan> I'd like to tell them to stfu and put that crap in their outlook ... but you know.
[13:14:03] <ioii> Roobard: nope. I am not on site . something like : PERM_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 12) 554
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[13:18:49] <flart> milligan: i feel your pain ;)
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[13:20:39] <milligan> flart, hehe. Thanks.
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[13:21:42] <flart> but to say something useful: i don't use autoresponders with postfix at the moment... and i hope i'll never have to
[13:22:37] <smesjz> oh, they're not so bad imho. I use them with Horde webmail and a virtual user/sql-aware autoresponder
[13:23:27] <flart> as long there are no mailinglists in the game, they aren't so evil
[13:27:52] <smesjz> yea, you can't rely solely on the X headers to identify it's a mailinglist
[13:27:56] <smesjz> or the noreply@
[13:31:07] <milligan> Im trying to use the autoresponder included with postfixadmin atm ...
[13:31:12] <milligan> ...been semi successfull I think.
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[13:42:25] <milligan> Hm, this is strange. The debug info from vacation.log shows exactly what it should .. but it doesnt seem to send the email like it should.
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[13:50:18] <stellina> hi people
[13:50:29] <cpm> morn'n
[13:50:49] <stellina> I need some help.it's the first day I got my postfix live and I have problems
[13:51:13] <stellina> at the moment I have ~ 50k mails in queue
[13:51:21] <cpm> ooh, that's a lot
[13:51:27] <lawnchair> heh
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[13:51:39] <milligan> stellina, are emails being delivered at all ?
[13:52:08] <stellina> my maillog shows that postifx keeps sending mail
[13:52:30] <cpm> are you running a content filter? If so, is the content filter running?
[13:52:33] <stellina> but of course the delay is very big
[13:52:38] <cpm> how big?
[13:52:39] <stellina> yes I run amavis
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[13:53:01] <stellina> I still have users complaing that they don't receive mail since morning
[13:53:10] <stellina> I'm using maildrop
[13:53:18] <lawnchair> stellina, hows the health of your box
[13:53:18] <cpm> what is the average delay?
[13:53:31] <lawnchair> you may need to tweak your amavisd and postfix settings
[13:53:37] <lawnchair> e.g. get it to run more processes
[13:53:47] <lawnchair> utilize more of your boxes resources
[13:53:54] <stellina> the load is around 0.5 -1
[13:53:57] * lawnchair nods
[13:54:02] <stellina> but I use almost all of the memory
[13:54:35] <milligan> How much ram does it have ?
[13:54:45] <stellina> 2G
[13:54:57] <smesjz> stellina: what's in the logs?
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[13:56:16] <stellina> smesjz: what do you want me to search?
[13:56:49] <smesjz> stellina: well...is it maildrop that's bugging or Postfix?
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[13:57:05] <smesjz> just pastebin a few relevant lines of the logs
[13:57:14] <smesjz> or inspect the queue using pfqueue for example
[13:57:31] <Fullmetal-Mavez> OMG smesjz!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111!!!1111
[13:57:42] <lawnchair> :-O
[13:57:53] <smesjz> omg Neil!
[13:57:58] <Fullmetal-Mavez> >_<
[13:58:05] <Fullmetal-Mavez> sup
[13:58:17] <stellina> I don't know
[13:58:20] <smesjz> not much, trying to migrate from Courier to Dovecot and stuff
[13:58:29] <Fullmetal-Mavez> i thought you'd already?
[13:58:44] <smesjz> Fullmetal-Mavez: well..final bits.. Sieve stuff
[13:58:56] <smesjz> stellina: just pastebin a few logs then
[13:59:00] <smesjz> we'll try to figure it out
[13:59:03] <stellina> ok sure.
[13:59:11] <smesjz> but we can't read your mind, so you got to help us a lil bit
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[14:00:35] <Fullmetal-Mavez> cool
[14:00:54] <smesjz> but I like maildrop a lot better than Sieve/Dovecot LDA for now. Because I can call external apps like spamc from maildrop..which I can't using Sieve
[14:03:27] <ioii> is there a complete list of the "states" ? ->  PERM_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state: 12)
[14:04:00] * cpm calls smesjz from sieve
[14:04:54] * smesjz gives cpm the busy tone
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[14:05:05] <smesjz> hail-o cpm
[14:05:16] <cpm> smesjz !
[14:05:23] <cpm> been a while
[14:06:13] <smesjz> yea, how's it hangin'?
[14:06:56] <stellina> is there any other pastebin like site?
[14:08:14] <f3ew>  rafb.net/paste
[14:09:43] <stellina> smesjz: http://rafb.net/p/C0nfQ434.html
[14:10:55] <smesjz> stellina: that's insufficient....it's a bounce so that mail isn't in the queue anymore
[14:11:16] <smesjz> try to give more info please
[14:11:22] <stellina> ok please tell me what to search in logs
[14:11:55] <smesjz> defer for example
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[14:12:03] <smesjz> or 'maildrop;
[14:12:05] <smesjz> maildrop that is
[14:12:48] <stellina> ok... everything about maildrop in my log just inform for successful delvery
[14:14:47] <milligan> How many users are on this system stellina ?
[14:14:47] <stellina> in main.cf I have the following:
[14:14:58] <stellina> queue_run_delay = 300
[14:14:58] <stellina> maximal_queue_lifetime = 2
[14:14:58] <stellina> maximal_backoff_time =300
[14:14:58] <stellina> initial_destination_concurrency = 2000
[14:15:03] <stellina> around 3k
[14:16:23] <smesjz> check the maildrop log then?
[14:16:38] <stellina> I think that maildrop is slow... are there any options I can give for maildrop concurrency in main.cf or in master.cf?
[14:17:14] <milligan> It's quite possible that you're just overloading the server, and that one of your utilities is just too slow to parse everything.
[14:17:32] <Mc_Fly> I need mails to admin@somedomaine and admin@someotherdomaine to go to the same virtual user account. How can I do this?
[14:17:37] <smesjz> stellina: can you type 'mailq' and paste a few lines from that?
[14:17:52] <milligan> I implemented qmail-sheff as a filter on a server at a time .. it started out pretty nice, but suddenly email started queing up and getting big delays. Turns out qmail-sheff couldn't parse them quick enough, and stuff just piled.
[14:18:17] <milligan> Mc_Fly, make them as aliases and point them to the target domain.
[14:18:39] <Roobarb> ioii: Without an accurate error message I can;t give an accurate answer
[14:18:49] <stellina> http://rafb.net/p/RgO5KU87.html
[14:19:35] <smesjz> that's all new mail
[14:19:39] <Mc_Fly> milligan: I have virtual user allready, so I know how to get that partworking. How would I set up aliases then?
[14:19:40] <stellina> I just saw now thatmaildrop is not running
[14:19:53] <stellina> but it used to few minutes ago
[14:19:54] <cpm> well, that'd do it.
[14:20:31] <stellina> smesjz: yes I don't see any errors in mailq
[14:20:42] <stellina> but maildrop does not deliver them
[14:21:17] <milligan> Mc_Fly, do you use postfixadmin ?
[14:21:28] <Mc_Fly> milligan: no
[14:22:12] <Mc_Fly> milligan: Should I?
[14:23:25] <milligan> Mc_Fly, that's what I use, and it's extremly easy.
[14:23:34] <milligan> Mc_Fly, a mysql based virtual user setup ?
[14:24:52] <smesjz> hmm, gotta go
[14:24:57] <Mc_Fly> milligan: no, I use the lookuptable: /etc/postfix/virtual  and virtual_mailbox_domains in main.cf to list the posible domains
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[14:26:40] <milligan> ah, right. Can't help then Im afraid. No experience with such a setup.
[14:29:36] <Mc_Fly> milligan: but if I use postfixadmin, whont that use the same setup?
[14:29:41] <stellina> maybe if Iincrease maildrop_destination_recipient_limit will it help?
[14:29:53] <stellina> It's set to 1 now
[14:30:20] <milligan> Mc_Fly, postfix admin is php/mysql based.
[14:30:28] * f3ew sighs
[14:30:41] <f3ew> just create the appropriate aliases (or virtual aliases)
[14:30:52] <Mc_Fly> milligan: ok. Is it easy to setup/install?
[14:31:06] <Mc_Fly> f3ew: How?
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[14:31:45] <shawarma> Where does the default myhostname come from? It doesn't match the output from "hostname -f"..
[14:32:51] <f3ew> Mc_Fly see man 5 aliases, man 5 virtual
[14:33:15] <f3ew> and use the appropriate one depending on the address class your destination domains are in
[14:33:16] <milligan> Mc_Fly, Im loving my setup :)
[14:33:26] <f3ew> http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_CLASS_README.html
[14:33:27] <ioii> Roobarb: Yes I know. but maybe you know a website with a complete list of the "states" that are given with 554 errors
[14:34:07] <shawarma> Actually, i'm more interested in where mydomain comes from.
[14:36:31] <stellina> someone?
[14:36:41] <stellina> please I need advice :-(
[14:37:53] <f3ew>  shawarma from $myhostname
[14:38:02] <f3ew> stellina, it won't
[14:38:51] <milligan> stellina, Im boggeled aswell. As I said, I think you are simply using too many tools, that are to slow running on your current system to handle that amount of users.
[14:39:01] <Zimmy> would my postfixadmin at mail.zimmy.us stop showing up if i changed my Alowoverride = All ?
[14:39:11] <milligan> stellina, what kind of specs does the server have ?
[14:39:32] <stellina> milligan: it's just a setup with postfix-ldap-amavis-courier
[14:39:36] <stellina> nothing more
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[14:40:17] <stellina> 2x intel xeon 3.40
[14:40:20] <stellina> 2G ram
[14:40:28] <stellina> sw raid 1
[14:40:50] <stellina> I see that maildrop is not run few minutes after every reload
[14:40:56] <stellina> any ideas about that?
[14:41:13] <milligan> top
[14:41:21] <milligan> What is loading the server the most ?
[14:41:52] <stellina> I think amavis ... I see it uses around 10-20% of the cpu
[14:42:05] <ipvsadm> guys, why my outbound email kept adding localhost.$mydomain instead of $mydomain. Example: test at localhost dot abc.com instead of test at abc dot com
[14:42:06] <stellina> and then comes ldap
[14:42:08] <milligan> that would be the spam/virii scanner ?
[14:42:13] <stellina> yes
[14:42:46] <milligan> fuck if I know mate. Sounds very odd.
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[14:42:59] <Zimmy> milligan :would my postfixadmin at mail.zimmy.us stop showing up if i changed my Alowoverride = All in the apache httpd.conf  ?? after i changed it it dont show up anymore? just my homepage ?
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[14:43:19] <milligan> Zimmy, you mean the .htaccess directive ?
[14:43:55] <apastinen> is there document how to configure outbox to mail, or actually, i am not sure is this postfix's job, but anyway if you know what i mean.. i using postfix/dovecot combination
[14:44:11] <Zimmy> i dunno, i changed the AllowOverride so the public_html folders arnt 403
[14:44:20] <milligan> Zimmy, add: "AllowOverride AuthConfig Indexes"
[14:44:34] <milligan> Zimmy, but that must be inside a <Directory> </Directory> delimiter.
[14:44:47] <Zimmy> ok ill try
[14:45:53] <apastinen> i just configured basic authentication to apache, check this http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/howto/auth.html there is Getting it working
[14:47:51] <shawarma> f3ew: Argh, catch 22. myhostname isn't set, so it's set to the hostname+'.'+mydomain..
[14:52:07] <Zimmy> i got AllowOverride AuthConfig allready
[14:52:16] <stellina> I don't understand... I disabled amavis. I'm sending mail with telnet and I see nothing about it in my logfile
[14:55:15] <milligan> Zimmy, http://xna.multigan.com/pastebin ... pastebin your httpd vhost conf
[14:58:59] <Zimmy> ok
[15:02:16] <Zimmy> ok done
[15:02:42] <Zimmy> i didnt get site.com/number to show ya but i paste it
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[15:05:15] <Zimmy> mill: u get it
[15:14:34] <Zimmy> ok http://xna.multigan.com/pastebin/?page=view&id=1177333312
[15:16:03] <stellina> why maildrop is not running?
[15:16:16] <stellina> any ideas on this?
[15:17:43] <Zimmy> mill: i run nutsmail 2 ;/
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[15:39:59] <fiXXXerMet> My mailq is filling up with http://paste.cheerupfuck.net/49 - 122 of them now.  What are these messages?
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[15:59:49] <shawarma> fiXXXerMet: It means that mail.fixertec.net is down, I guess.
[15:59:57] <shawarma> fiXXXerMet: Or they've firewalled you.
[16:00:56] <shawarma> fiXXXerMet: I can connect just fine. They probably don't like you.
[16:02:04] <fiXXXerMet> That is my server (localhost)
[16:03:25] <Mc_Fly> I need mails to admin@somedomaine and admin@someotherdomaine to go to the same virtual user. How can I do this?
[16:04:26] <ZzimmyY> forward or alias i think
[16:05:03] <f3ew> Mc_Fly virtual_alias_maps
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[16:07:43] <shawarma> fiXXXerMet: Oh. Did you firewall yourself? Is that IP (146.145.114.26) a local one or does it loop back through a firewall perhaps?
[16:08:30] <shawarma> fiXXXerMet: Besides, if it's your local server, it should be your myhostname or be in mydestination.
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[16:09:19] <fiXXXerMet> In /etc/hosts, I have mail.fixertec.net pointing to 127.0.0.1, the public IP address, and the local IP address
[16:09:42] <shawarma> That's not the point.
[16:09:53] <fiXXXerMet> myhostname = mail.fixertec.net
[16:10:18] <fiXXXerMet> Virtual users, and that domain is in the virtual_mailbox_domains table
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[16:14:51] <yam> when using an exchange server as relayhost, email gets to destination with headers as part of the body msg
[16:15:04] <yam> been reading around but no clue
[16:15:05] <shawarma> fiXXXerMet: You could check out the message it's trying to deliver.
[16:15:18] <shawarma> fiXXXerMet: It might have some interesting hints about why it's bouncing in the first place.
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[17:22:01] <stellina> hi again
[17:22:40] <stellina> I have 20k mail in the active queue
[17:23:56] <stellina> and I see that maildrop process each message every 4-5seconds
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[17:24:35] <stellina> how can I force the delivery of the mails in my active queue?
[17:25:03] <cpm> man postqueue
[17:25:09] <stellina> I did
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[17:25:23] <stellina> I have run postqueue -f
[17:25:46] <stellina> and I get this postfix/postqueue[25700]: fatal: usage: postqueue -f | postqueue -p | postqueue -s site
[17:25:51] <stellina> in the log
[17:26:12] <Signum> stellina: try "postfix flush"
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[17:28:23] <stellina> Signum: thanx Signum I think this worked
[17:28:29] <stellina> but I still have 20k mail there
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[17:30:34] <Signum> stellina: take a break... drink a coffee... and watch the hard disk light... :)
[17:31:31] <stellina> Signum: I've been trying for 10 hours to solve my large queue problem.... and I can't go home if I dont fix it
[17:33:54] <cpm> stellina, if postqueue -f is kicking out an error, then you have a problem
[17:35:17] <stellina> the only error I get with postqueue -f is : fatal: usage: postqueue -f | postqueue -p | postqueue -s site
[17:36:36] <cpm> well, if you get told to use postqueue -f when you type postqueue -f , something is wrong
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[17:37:35] <stellina> which process call maildrop ?
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[17:45:28] <stellina> pickup?
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[19:16:32] <rob0> hparker: !
[19:17:16] * devdas sporks rob0 and hparker
[19:17:19] <rob0> you out drinking/carousing last night?
[19:18:55] <devdas> no
[19:19:20] <rob0> Oh I meant hparker. I figured you're drinking and carousing NOW. :)
[19:19:59] <devdas> nah
[19:20:08] * devdas is usually a non-drinker
[19:21:39] <rob0> Besides, drinking and sporking don't mix.
[19:22:53] <brainxy> hi there.. is it possible to delete just the mails which were generated from www-data from the mailqueue?
[19:23:12] <devdas> google for delete-from-mailq
[19:23:48] <devdas> or for i in `mailq | grep www-data | cut -f1 -d' '|tr -d \*`; do postsuper -d ${i}; done
[19:24:54] <brainxy> devdas .. thank you
[19:26:11] * cpm sits back and watches the sporking with much joy
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[19:36:14] <frb> howdy
[19:36:31] <frb> Postfix is tellme this: (Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=hotmail.com type=MX: Host not found, try again)
[19:36:37] <frb> err telling me
[19:36:51] <frb> but if I do 'dig hotmail.com mx' I get a very large list
[19:37:16] <devdas> turn off the chroot?
[19:37:43] * rob0 sporks chroot
[19:38:19] <frb> is that a conffile option or ... ?
[19:38:40] <rob0> !debug
[19:38:41] <knoba> rob0: 'debug' : http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html : a good starting point for how to deal with problems and to report information to those who might help. Post your information in a pastebin such as http://pastebin.com/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ .
[19:38:43] <devdas> master.cf, chroot column, set to n
[19:38:57] <rob0> see the #no_chroot anchor therein
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[19:39:45] <frb> the chroot column was already n across the board
[19:42:16] <hparker> rob0: Naw.. Just getting around, and saw your email though
[19:44:12] <hparker> (Had to fix lunch for the wife :P )
[19:44:18] <rob0> ah
[19:44:30] <rob0> Hungry women are not to be ignored.
[19:44:48] <hparker> s/Hungary//
[19:46:41] <nohik> Somebody realize a performance bench beetwen postfix and sendmail recently ?
[19:46:59] <frb> I only realized that I can understand how to configure postfix
[19:47:24] <frb> and yes, sendmail was trying to do a lookup on mail creation of the sender and receiver, so it took like 3 minutes to send each mail
[19:50:10] <Ciaran_H> Hmm. Under what circumstances will Postfix EHLO as "localhost.localdomain" even when I explicitly put "smtp_helo_name = another.host.net" in main.cf? Although it shouldn't have needed it anyway...
[19:51:02] <frb> you forgot to restart?
[19:51:08] <devdas> Ciaran_H: it shouldn't
[19:51:11] <Ciaran_H> Nope, I definitely restarted.
[19:51:13] <Ciaran_H> Hmm.
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[19:51:19] <Ciaran_H> Guess it might be a Debian package thing then.
[19:51:20] <frb> so now I've got postfix telling me it can't find an MX for gmail.com, hotmail.com or wiw.org
[19:51:23] <devdas> can you show postconf -n output please?
[19:51:24] * cpm restarts hparker
[19:51:31] <devdas> and a debug log of the localhost.localdomain?
[19:51:43] <Ciaran_H> Sure.
[19:51:44] <devdas> frb: then your DNS is broken
[19:51:59] <frb> dig works fine, nslookup works fine,
[19:52:18] <frb> host works fine, every network utility I know of says that each of those as a long list of MX records
[19:53:16] <devdas> frb: Postfix uses the name servers listed in /etc/resolv.conf
[19:53:17] * hparker segfaults
[19:53:20] <Ciaran_H> devdas: Is there a way to get a dump from Postfix itself or should I just sniff it with tcpdump or similar? I've been using tcpflow to sniff so far but that produces separate files for each side of the conversation.
[19:53:22] <devdas> Try reload Postfix?
[19:53:37] <devdas> Ciaran_H: smtp -v in master.cf should do the trick
[19:53:42] <frb> service restart is always what I try first
[19:53:43] <rob0> frb: I've seen the "can't find MX" issue with some el-cheapo consumer-grade routers that proxy DNS but don't support MX, but if dig/host are working, that shoots that theory.
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[19:53:47] <devdas> Or even tcpdump -s0 -X -i eth0
[19:54:00] <frb> rob0: my consumer grade router is IPCop
[19:54:15] * Ciaran_H notices he doesn't have tcpdump installed, installs it.
[19:54:25] <Ciaran_H> Whops, should really install these things before suggesting them. ;p
[19:54:29] <devdas> hehe
[19:54:39] <devdas> Ciaran_H: try the smtp -v in master.cf
[19:54:47] <devdas> that _should_ be enough
[19:54:50] <rob0> By "consumer-grade" I mean the junk firmware stuff like netgear and dlink.
[19:54:53] <Ciaran_H> Well, it's installed now. But, okay, I will.
[19:54:57] <Ciaran_H> Where will it log to?
[19:55:01] <rob0> ipcop is obviously NOT
[19:55:02] <frb> yeah, I don't have those
[19:55:18] <devdas> Ciaran_H: maillog
[19:55:24] <Ciaran_H> Okay.
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[20:01:16] <Ciaran_H> ...wait. I just realised why it isn't working.
[20:01:42] <Ciaran_H> I assumed that I was sending the email through Postfix in this program. I'm not, it's doing it directly.
[20:01:48] <Ciaran_H> Sorry to have bothered you. :(
[20:02:06] * cpm trades rob0 in for some consumer grade junk
[20:02:14] <Ciaran_H> I'll get it to send to Postfix first.
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[20:02:26] * cpm regrets the trade
[20:02:39] * rob0 is excited to finally be out of cpm's evil clutches
[20:03:09] <Ciaran_H> Wait, no.
[20:03:20] <Ciaran_H> Postfix must be doing it. Maybe.
[20:03:29] <Ciaran_H> No.
[20:03:36] <Ciaran_H> No, it's not, okay, I suck, forget it.
[20:07:39] <devdas> Ciaran_H: too often true
[20:07:46] <devdas> PHP webapp?
[20:07:54] <devdas> Or the Perl Net::SMTP module?
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[20:08:31] <smesjz> cpm: still harming innocent bystanders here? :)
[20:10:04] <Fullmetal-Mavez> smesjz!!
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[20:10:29] <smesjz> Neil! still here?
[20:10:30] <Fullmetal-Mavez> hows the spam business going?
[20:10:33] <Fullmetal-Mavez> YES!
[20:10:36] <Fullmetal-Mavez> i'm always here
[20:10:43] <Fullmetal-Mavez> unlike you >:|
[20:10:44] <smesjz> good, those chinese do an excellent job on the handwritten spam
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[20:10:56] <Fullmetal-Mavez> want to trade email address lists
[20:11:17] <smesjz> sure...trade @gmail.com for @yahoo.com?
[20:11:17] <Fullmetal-Mavez> my minions of spam are doing a great job of dumpster diving for email addresses
[20:11:29] <Fullmetal-Mavez> sounds like a fair deal
[20:11:31] <smesjz> hehe
[20:11:35] <Fullmetal-Mavez> heh
[20:11:38] * Signum sells his email address for ?5
[20:11:43] <Fullmetal-Mavez> >_<
[20:11:48] <smesjz> you sellout!
[20:12:02] <Signum> My mother and my soul are already sold.
[20:12:22] <smesjz> Fullmetal-Mavez: have you got your server up and colocated? ;)
[20:12:28] <Ciaran_H> devdas: Net::SMTP, indirectly through Email::Send.
[20:12:31] <Fullmetal-Mavez> YES!
[20:12:38] <Fullmetal-Mavez> well almost
[20:12:39] <Fullmetal-Mavez> e
[20:12:40] <Fullmetal-Mavez> hehe
[20:12:41] <smesjz> running that pesky FreeBSD? :P
[20:12:44] <Fullmetal-Mavez> yes!
[20:12:45] <Fullmetal-Mavez> :P
[20:12:48] <Fullmetal-Mavez> freebsd ftw!
[20:12:55] <Ciaran_H> devdas: Fixed it by adding 'Hello => "matrix.theblob.org"' into the mailer_args call.
[20:13:00] <Fullmetal-Mavez> i need to set up sasl though
[20:13:26] <devdas> Ciaran_H: ah
[20:13:33] <devdas> cool
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[20:13:39] <devdas> hey Signum
[20:13:55] <Ciaran_H> devdas: Unfortunately, it didn't fix the problem I was hoping to fix, which is that the remote server isn't accepting my messages. I thought it was denying them because it was EHLOing as localhost, but that's not the problem. Meh.
[20:13:58] <frb-work> ok, so I just double-checked the DNS configuration, and forced it to use the ISP that doesn't suck
[20:14:10] <frb-work> dig mx wiw.org works fine, postfix says it's a DNS error
[20:15:26] <Ciaran_H> devdas: Anyway, thanks for your help, and sorry to have wasted your time like that.
[20:15:33] <Signum> devdas: hey, f3 :)
[20:15:56] <devdas> sup?
[20:16:12] <Signum> Just the usual business... getting a second child... building a house...
[20:16:26] <Signum> And working on a new ispmail tutorial now that "Etch" is out.
[20:17:37] <devdas> a second child, so soon?
[20:18:34] <Signum> V1.0 is already three years old. Time for a backup.
[20:20:28] <smesjz> hehe
[20:20:48] <smesjz> hi Chris :)
[20:21:02] * cpm thought Signum was v1.0
[20:21:14] <cpm> making progs v2.x
[20:21:37] <frb-work> does postfix have a name lookup cache of its own?
[20:22:06] <devdas> no
[20:22:11] <devdas> whoa
[20:22:18] <devdas> 3 years already!
[20:22:35] <devdas> I remember Signum going to hospital for the birth
[20:22:58] <devdas> Signum makes me feel old
[20:23:28] <rob0> hospital?
[20:23:54] <smesjz> rob0: some women need to give birth there because of possible complications and stuff
[20:24:36] <devdas> <=== old
[20:24:36] <smesjz> when the lil padawan is having the attitude before it's even born
[20:26:25] <rob0> Modern obstetric practive really sucks. But it's worse in the USA, probably not as bad in Germany. Ours were born at home.
[20:27:14] <Ciaran_H> Can I pick anybody's brains for a non-Postfix question regarding why I can't send to another server? Or should I go elsewhere?
[20:27:16] <Signum> smesjz: Hi, Jaz... :)
[20:27:54] <Signum> Ours were both born in hospital. It's just three days there and in case of problems there are always kid-admins to give support.
[20:28:17] <smesjz> yea, and you can leave them at the hospital if they cry too much ;)
[20:28:18] <rob0> Ciaran_H: test going out to it using telnet(1) or nc(1) on port 25?
[20:28:32] <Ciaran_H> Good idea, hang on.
[20:29:34] <Ciaran_H> rob0: Nope, that fails. Hmm.
[20:29:45] <Ciaran_H> I'm fairly sure my host isn't on any DNSBLs, but I'll check.
[20:29:54] <Signum> smesjz: Bigger problem: they play too much. The signature on my grave will likely be "Hey, dad is home!"
[20:29:59] <rob0> sounds like ISP blocking you
[20:31:24] <Ciaran_H> rob0: Nope, I'm not doing it from my ISP - I'm doing it from my Linode, which is hosted at ThePlanet.
[20:31:34] <Ciaran_H> And somehow I doubt TP would be blocking me. ;p
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[20:31:57] <rob0> I don't. Ask them?
[20:32:01] <andrago> hi
[20:32:10] <rob0> or ask Linode
[20:32:32] <rob0> try to go to my port 25 from there
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[20:32:40] <rob0> /whois rob0
[20:32:52] <mofino> How do I get my PF server to rewrite headers when seeing a XFORWARD command?
[20:33:18] <mofino> SOURCE is REMOTE...
[20:34:14] <devdas> you need to add the IP to the trusted sender or recipient list
[20:34:18] <Ciaran_H> rob0: Worked. http://pastebin.ca/454610
[20:34:19] <devdas> See XFORWARD_README
[20:34:39] <Ciaran_H> rob0: Shall I try sending a mail?
[20:35:27] <mofino> Well, it doesn't say that ...
[20:35:34] <devdas> !xforward
[20:35:35] <knoba> devdas: Error: "xforward" is not a valid command.
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[20:36:22] <devdas>  smtpd_authorized_xforward_hosts (default: empty)   What SMTP clients are allowed to use the XFORWARD feature.  This command forwards information that is used to improve logging after SMTP-based content filters. See the XFORWARD_README document for details.    This feature is available in Postfix 2.1 and later.    By default, no clients are allowed to specify XFORWARD.    Specify a list of network/netmask patterns, separated by commas and/o
[20:36:31] <devdas> See postconf(5)
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[20:36:52] <mofino> right
[20:36:55] <mofino> it doesn't say anything
[20:36:56] <mofino> "What SMTP clients are allowed to use the XFORWARD feature. This command forwards information that is used to improve logging after SMTP-based content filters. See the XFORWARD_README document for details.
[20:37:00] <mofino> "
[20:37:06] <devdas> what should it say?
[20:37:09] <mofino> this time postfix is the client
[20:37:12] <devdas> what are you trying to do?
[20:37:16] <devdas> ah
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[20:37:30] <mofino> pf -> greylist -> pf smtpd
[20:37:36] <devdas> and you want Postfix to send the xforward on via SMTP?
[20:37:39] <devdas> errrrr?
[20:37:48] <mofino> so, smtp client -> pf -> greylist -> pf smtpd
[20:37:53] <devdas> greylist is a policyd, not a content_filter
[20:38:06] <mofino> ok content_filter if oyu like
[20:38:27] <mofino> I allowed 127.0.0.1
[20:38:30] <devdas> so on the server side, tell Postfix smtpd to offer xforward
[20:38:34] <mofino> I did
[20:38:38] <mofino> It does
[20:38:57] <mofino> T 127.0.0.1:54972 -> 127.0.0.1:10026 [AP] XFORWARD NAME=thirddimension.net ADDR=209.91.168.238 HELO=[209.91.168.238] PROTO=ESMTP SOURCE=REMOTE..
[20:39:00] <mofino> T 127.0.0.1:10026 -> 127.0.0.1:54972 [AP] 250 2.0.0 Ok..
[20:40:10] <devdas> and?
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[20:40:45] <mofino> just saying, it appears to work
[20:40:50] <mofino> but doesn't rewrite the headers
[20:40:56] <mofino> i'm adding that host now anyway
[20:41:35] <devdas> it's meant for logging
[20:41:43] <mofino> well
[20:41:50] <mofino> it says it will rewrite headers...
[20:41:53] <devdas> http://www.postfix.org/XCLIENT_README.html
[20:41:56] <devdas> you probably want this
[20:42:26] <mofino> no
[20:42:30] <mofino> why would I want that?
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[20:43:37] <mofino> "The down-stream MTA may decide to enable features such as header munging or address qualification with mail from local sources but not other sources."
[20:43:40] <devdas> (00:03:30) dp-work:  13:36:02 up  7:03,  1 user,  load average: 955.35, 904.55, 522.91
[20:43:45] <mofino> heh nice
[20:43:47] <devdas> heh
[20:43:55] <Signum> devdas: you need 954 more CPUs.
[20:44:02] <Fullmetal-Mavez> haha
[20:44:05] <devdas> Signum: not me
[20:44:10] <devdas> and dp-work needs more disks
[20:44:14] <Fullmetal-Mavez> your pc is pwnzd
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[20:45:18] <mofino> devdas, ok maybe that will work
[20:45:25] <mofino> devdas, docs are a bit confusing
[20:45:28] <devdas> (00:07:40) neek: 10:28AM up 12894 days, 5:57, 2 users, load averages: 1.89, 1.65, 1.52
[20:45:31] <devdas> yes
[20:45:39] <devdas> the X* stuff is irritating
[20:45:42] <devdas> but rarely used
[20:46:14] * devdas -> bed
[20:46:16] <mofino> these READMEs are brutal, they don't link to anything
[20:46:19] <mofino> ok, lates.
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[21:11:58] <T-H> hi guys i have problem relying from my machine is running postfix
[21:12:06] <T-H> *that is
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[21:15:59] <cpm> T-H, explaining your problem is half the solution.
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[21:18:49] <T-H> ok
[21:19:01] <T-H> i have a postfix running on my machine
[21:19:13] <T-H> there is also a application that need to send email
[21:19:50] <T-H> it is also running on the same machine
[21:20:11] <T-H> i can not send email from that app it gives me error rely access denied
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[21:20:17] <cara> f3ew?
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[21:25:32] <T-H> here is my config
[21:25:33] <T-H> http://rafb.net/p/HRYuWM37.html
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[21:36:18] <Signum> T-H: are you relaying through localhost (127.0.0.1) or through the internet interface?
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[21:39:13] <Ciaran_H> rob0: I figured out the sending problem. Caused by a combination of two things... firstly, the target server wasn't accepting my manual debug mails because I was being lazy and only using lines like 'From: Me' instead of 'From: me at example dot org' or 'From: "Me" <me at example dot org>', etc.
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[21:39:58] <Ciaran_H> rob0: Secondly, it wasn't accepting mails from my script because I was stupid and forgot to strip the beginning "From me at example dot org  Mon Apr 23 19: 34:14 2007" line. Whoops.
[21:40:13] <Ciaran_H> rob0: All fixed now though. :D
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[22:00:24] <T-H> Signum i am replying from localhost
[22:00:41] <T-H> SMTP server and the application on the same machine
[22:00:59] <T-H> and machine has a public IP and internet domain name
[22:04:32] <Signum> T-H: yes, but which IP address/hostname is your application sending the mail to?
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[22:08:12] <mordaunt> i have anvil configured to run in master.cf but it doesn't run
[22:08:21] <mordaunt> it's configured to update stats every 60s
[22:10:03] <T-H> 127.0.0.1
[22:10:51] <Signum> T-H: what is the message in your mail log?
[22:12:36] <T-H> ya it says i do not have a MX record but i have a MX record for my domain
[22:12:56] <Signum> T-H: check that MX record from the server itself. perhaps wrong dns client settings.
[22:13:21] <T-H> oh no  ---->  host -t mx obneq.com  give  obneq.com has no MX record
[22:13:50] <T-H> well i have configured the MX record in my hosting panel it is there
[22:14:00] <T-H> is there ant other way to add MX record
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[22:15:02] <sepski> T-H, and the mx is a hostname and that hostname is a A record ?
[22:19:06] <T-H> obneq A IP
[22:19:06] <T-H> obneq.com A IP
[22:19:15] <T-H> obneq.com MX mail.obneq.com
[22:19:21] <T-H> mail A IP
[22:19:25] <T-H> this is the config
[22:21:24] <sepski> if you write out  obneq.com A IP   it's ratehr strange that you dont write out mail A IP... like mail.obneq.com A IP
[22:21:35] <sepski> unless your @origin changes in there ofcourse
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[22:22:48] <T-H> ya it actually like that
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[22:23:30] <T-H> my hosting service append it to the my domain automatically
[22:24:45] <T-H> well i think i got the problem
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[22:32:47] <DiaboluZ> Hi guys... Got a problem... My saslauthd won't work right with me :S if i make a testsaslauthd -u user -p pass it says: connect(): no such file or directory... any good ideas? :) Struggled with setting up a mailserver for 2 days now, and this is the only part missing...
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[22:34:38] <DiaboluZ> i used the following howto to set up my system... http://www.howtoforge.com/virtual_postfix_mysql_quota_courier_p2
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[22:41:10] <T-H> sepski another problem
[22:41:17] <T-H> now it is giving me (mail for obneq.com loops back to myself
[22:41:45] <sepski> T-H, configure your postfix
[22:42:11] <T-H> now that is pretty board statment
[22:42:20] <T-H> can u be specific to config what
[22:42:21] <sepski> well it's the most basic config so...
[22:42:26] <rob0> !loopback
[22:42:27] <knoba> rob0: 'loopback' : 'Mail loops back to myself' means that your Postfix wanted to send out the mail to the internet but then discovered that the DNS says your mail server should be responsible. Most likely you forgot to list your domain in mydestination or virtual_(alias|mailbox)_domains
[22:42:35] <DiaboluZ> No one got an idea? :S
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[22:43:06] <T-H> ah
[22:45:07] <T-H> well mydestination  have my domain obneq.com
[22:45:20] <T-H> i am not using virtual_(alias|mailbox)_domains ... do i need it ?
[22:45:26] <T-H> i do not think so ...
[22:46:14] <rob0> Apparently Postfix doesn't see obneq.com as being in its $mydestination.
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[22:48:51] <puff`> Afternoon, I'm looking for a pointer to a good tutorial on troubleshooting mail.  (Oddly enough, googling on "troubleshooting mail" gives me LOTS and LOTS of ms-exchange pages; who'da thunk it :-).
[22:50:26] <puff`> I have an ubuntu server with postfix and the ispconfig control panel.  I set up three domains via ispconfig but they're not apparently receiving email.
[22:50:39] <Signum> puff`: What is the message in your mail log?
[22:50:52] <puff`> So I guess the first steps are 1a) make sure that DNS is sending mail requests to my mail server and 1b) make sure postfix is accepting them.
[22:51:10] <puff`> Signum: Didn't see any;  that's why I'm look for pointers to a general tutorial.
[22:51:23] <Signum> puff`: The key is to understand where the logs are. :)
[22:52:22] <puff`> Signum: To be clear;  didn't see any messages relating to that domain in /var/log/mail*
[22:52:27] <puff`> Will check again now.
[22:52:55] <puff`> Also, I'm not entirely certain that's the right place to look;  ispconfig separates out the apache logs for individual sites, it might be doing so for mail as well.
[22:53:09] <puff`> Also, this setup is using an IMAP server, which I distrust on principle.
[22:53:21] <Signum> puff`: I don't know anything about ispconfig. But in the end Postfix is the actual job. So something must be in there.
[22:53:23] <puff`> I miss being able to grep /var/spool/mail :-(
[22:53:30] <puff`> Yeah, I'm figuring.
[22:53:31] <Signum> IMAP is good!
[22:54:07] <puff`> Yeah, I know, I know, but files are files... if it were on disk I could poke around and grep and know definitively that the message is or is not on the system.
[22:54:08] <Signum> puff`: so you sent mail to your domain but nothing shows up in the mail.log?
[22:54:11] <puff`> Yeah.
[22:54:14] <puff`> One sec, lemme check again.
[22:54:15] <Signum> puff`: are your DNS settings correct?
[22:55:03] <puff`> I think so, but I'm not certain.
[22:56:46] <puff`> Ah, dammit.
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[22:57:07] <puff`> I just spotted two transposed ip numbers (in dig output) that I"m certain I fixed before.  Hm.
[22:58:45] <puff`> Fortunately, I have them on 10-minute timeouts while I'm messing with them.
[23:00:05] <puff`> Here's a quick question;  currently I have two domains set up;  the second domain is really meant to just be an easier-to-remember domain name:  soundslikeaninja.com and ninjasound.com.
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[23:00:51] <puff`> With ISPconfig I tried but failed to figure out how to set up ninjasound.com to just forward to soundslikeaninja.com.
[23:01:10] <puff`> So I set up a separate web site with an php script to redirect the user.
[23:01:29] <puff`> Can I simply set ninajsound.com's mx-record to be mail.soundslikeaninja.com?
[23:02:33] <Signum> puff`: yes.
[23:02:39] <Signum> puff`: Postfix will need to accept both domains of course.
[23:05:44] <T-H> guys i have mydestination, virtual_alias_domains have my domain .. but i am still geting "mail loops back to myself" .... i read in the that Mail for unknown virtual users fails with "mail loops back to myself".
[23:09:06] <puff`> Signum: Hm, presumably I need to tell postfix that ninjasound.com should go to soundslikeaninja.com?
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[23:13:43] <Signum> puff`: regarding email it's just important that the MX/A entry points to the same server and that postfix is willing to except email for both domains
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[23:18:41] <frb-work> ok, this is really starting to bother me
[23:19:11] <frb-work> I need to know exactly what commands this copy of postfix is trying to send when I'm trying to send a mail to hotmail
[23:19:27] <frb-work> postfix says it's delivered, but the mail is not in the hotmail inbox or junk mail
[23:19:54] <frb-work> I have no messages at the sender account saying it's been rejected, it just gets lost in the delivery somewhere between here and hotmail
[23:20:10] <nightswim> not between there and hotmail
[23:20:13] <nightswim> just at hotmail
[23:20:17] <nightswim> do you have spf records?
[23:20:22] <Signum> frb-work: is your mail.log saying that it's delivered?
[23:20:25] <frb-work> yes
[23:20:40] <frb-work> I have a mail.log, gmail's headers say my SPF is neutral
[23:21:06] <frb-work> Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 64.16.14.210 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of customerservice at dahnyoga dot com)
[23:21:10] <nightswim> does neutral mean "absent, so dont care" or "present, and say dont care"?
[23:23:53] <DiaboluZ> 0: NO "authentication failed" - i get that when trying a testsaslauthd - any great ideas? :)
[23:24:08] <DiaboluZ> And yes, i use the correct user/pass from the mysql
[23:27:00] <frb-work> I'm trying to use the MS SPF Wizard now
[23:27:07] <frb-work> but I don't want to break anything
[23:27:44] <puff`> Hm, that's odd... I have the mail.ninjasound.com record on a 600 TTL but it's still giving me the old data.
[23:28:10] <puff`> I wonder if somebody's not playing by the rules here.
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[23:30:26] <L0RDzx> what should i do to minimalization spaming on my postfix MTA
[23:30:48] <frb-work> what's a Purported Responsible Address?
[23:31:03] <frb-work> L0RDzx: turn it off :)
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[23:31:46] <L0RDzx> how to i get rbl update ?
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[23:35:04] <frb-work> I generated an SPF record, now I have to give step by step instructions as to how to apply it
[23:35:22] <frb-work> since I don't control the mainlevel DNS
[23:35:46] <frb-work> the people that do are korean, and in order to get a translation I need to go through a non-tech, so it needs to be simple
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