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[00:24:17] <hparker> !cheatsheet
[00:24:18] <knoba> hparker: 'cheatsheet' : http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt : A HOWTO for pre-DATA spam control.
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[01:41:48] <Kirsch> is there a good beginners guide to get postfix running on fedora core 5? want to get pop/imap abilities.
[01:42:08] <Kirsch> a lot of the docs i've been reading are too confusing...
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[02:12:07] <xpoint> postfix is not pop/imap
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[02:43:24] <ptomter> what it the easyest way to transfere mail accounts from another server to a new one ?
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[02:45:48] <shasta> rsync? ;)
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[02:50:02] <Zand3r_> When I configure my LDA for Postfix I set (dovecot_destination_recipient_limit = 1) which I understand to mean that the email might be passed to the LDA several times (once per recipient) and all aliases, etc. will have been worked out. Is there a way to achieve a similar configuration for a content filter. I want to pass mail through SpamAssassin (spamc) but I want to use per-user configurations and per-user bayes so it s
[02:50:03] <Zand3r_> eems that the mai should only pass through the content filter for the final recipients?
[02:50:42] <Zand3r_> I was going to write a wrapper around my LDA which ran Spamassassin - but if there is ever a delivery error then this would pass the email through spamassassin several times as far as I can tell.
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[03:15:02] <ptomter> what it the easyest way to transfere mail accounts from another server with ip xxx to ip xxx?
[03:16:23] <lennard> two servers with the same ip... that could be problematic
[03:16:25] <lennard> ~ sleep
[03:17:15] <ptomter> it is not the same server
[03:17:44] <ptomter> can you or somebody here please help me?
[03:18:12] <shasta> man rsync
[03:19:19] <ptomter> shasta I want to copy all the folders under /home from ip "ip1" to "ip2" /home
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[03:20:17] <shasta> i told you what to do
[03:20:24] <shasta> read rsync manual page
[03:20:38] <shasta> i won't tell you the exact command(s)
[03:20:53] <ptomter> I have now tried for one hour
[03:21:43] <shasta> so?
[03:21:50] <ptomter> I need help?
[03:22:03] <shasta> i told you what to do
[03:22:41] <Zand3r_> Is it normal that my content filter (amavisd-new) belives it is receiving mail from my public-facing IP address as opposed to localhost when both Postfix and the content filter reside on the same server?
[03:23:34] <shasta> Zander, probably depends on your master.cf settings
[03:24:36] <Zand3r_> shasta: Thanks. I jsut wanted to make sure this seemed reasonable and that I hadn;t in fact broken something.
[03:25:40] <shasta> well, my amavis says: Received: (...)  by localhost (my.host.name.tld [127.0.0.1])   :)
[03:26:42] <shasta> Zander, postconf content_filter
[03:26:52] <Zand3r_> well - that;s more in-line with what I would have expected.
[03:27:30] <Zand3r_> postconf content_filter jsut give me content_filter = with nothing after it
[03:27:35] <shasta> oh
[03:28:06] <shasta> how do you use your amavisd-new then?
[03:29:53] <Zand3r_> ahh - my amavisd-new is called under the smtp process in master.cf  -o content_filter=smtp-amavis:[127.0.0.1]:10024   -  This was because I was intending for only incoming mail to pass through it.
[03:30:23] <Zand3r_> I'm making some changes now - I'm no longer going to have amavis spam filtering (only anti-virus) so I can re-jig things about so thins might resolve itself as I simplify it.
[03:31:12] <shasta> looks fine (should be connecting to 127.0.0.1)
[03:31:24] <shasta> in fact it's exactly the same as mine :)
[03:35:33] <shasta> yawn, 3:35am. good night. (and good luck)
[03:39:16] <Zand3r_> shasta: Thanks for the guidance. Good Night.
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[04:55:51] <ptomter> anyone that can help me with postfix admin or know where I can ask questions about postfix admin?
[05:04:28] <ek> ptomter: What's the problem?
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[05:08:31] <ptomter> when I go into admin section I can get the mailboxes and alieas I already made without postfix admin
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[05:59:36] <djs_2_6> ptomter, I have some limited experience with PA...
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[06:00:48] <djs_2_6> I am running into a limited problem.  Some emails come straight through the mail server with no problems, but one particular site is not getting through.
[06:01:00] <djs_2_6> Apr 21 23:32:58 ycsi-cary-n1 postfix/smtpd[22677]: connect from creditboards.com[216.54.123.61]
[06:01:01] <djs_2_6> Apr 21 23:37:58 ycsi-cary-n1 postfix/smtpd[22677]: lost connection after EHLO from creditboards.com[216.54.123.61]
[06:01:01] <djs_2_6> Apr 21 23:37:58 ycsi-cary-n1 postfix/smtpd[22677]: disconnect from creditboards.com[216.54.123.61]
[06:02:08] <djs_2_6> If you notice the timestamps, it loses connection ater 5 (!!) minutes.  Current setup is OBSD4.0, postfix/mysql/sasl2/courier-imap
[06:10:54] <nictuku> it *may* be very slow
[06:11:09] <nictuku> are you using a pre-queue filter?
[06:11:48] <djs_2_6> I have no idea.  Did not see anything mentioning that in my setup pages...
[06:13:15] <nictuku> I suggest using debug_peer_list and increasing the debug level for it
[06:13:42] <nictuku> else maybe sniffing the communication
[06:16:38] <djs_2_6> For the debug level, I know 2 is default.  Is 1 larger, or 3?
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[07:13:04] <dhoomketu> hi
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[07:13:42] <dhoomketu> anyone tried smtp.gmail.com as relay
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[08:13:42] <djs_2_6> Well, I have gotten another attempt from my problem mail server, and it logged with level 3 details, so there is a lot more info.  Tried googling the errors minus ips and names, and got some similar looking errors, but most had other issues I do not.  I receive most mail fine already, and see in the logs that non fqdns are dropped.
[08:14:17] <djs_2_6> Current log for one session of this mailserver's attempt to send me mail - http://www.ycsi.org/paste.html
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[08:29:23] <djs_2_6> Current main.cf - http://www.ycsi.org/paste2.html
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[09:10:42] <sysmonk> djs_2_6: could be network problems
[09:11:15] <seekwill> Howdy. Is it possible to change the port postfix listens to?
[09:11:57] <devdas> yes
[09:12:03] <devdas> edit master.cf
[09:12:31] <seekwill> Ah! Thank you
[09:12:58] <sysmonk> or should i say /etc/services :)
[09:13:49] <seekwill> Which one is better?
[09:14:12] <devdas> master
[09:14:42] * sysmonk is not sure
[09:15:41] <djs_2_6> sysmonk: In my first link, lines 2-6 look "off", but I am not sure how.  Looks like it is trying to relate to my internal lan...
[09:18:04] <seekwill> devdas: I'm reading up on how to use master. It seems like the inet type is what I need, but I also have to specify :25. How do I do that?
[09:18:16] <seekwill> Or do I replace "inet" with ":25"
[09:18:54] <sysmonk> seekwill: the first word in  a line is the port
[09:19:02] <sysmonk> like 'smtp' stands for 25
[09:19:10] <sysmonk> but you can replace the 'smtp' with 26
[09:19:40] <seekwill> OH!
[09:19:42] <seekwill> Thanks!
[09:20:14] <sysmonk> djs_2_6: it's just checking whenever it should accept any mail from that ip
[09:20:30] <sysmonk> (relay everything, or just accept the mail to the domain you host)
[09:27:16] <djs_2_6> So, does that log look alright?
[09:29:58] <sysmonk> djs_2_6: it looks like there is a network problem
[09:30:32] <sysmonk> OR the server (sender) died while trying to send the mail
[09:34:15] <djs_2_6> Well, if other mail gets through alright, then I am doubting I have network problems here, so I guess I need to try elsewhere...
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[09:37:33] <sysmonk> djs_2_6: maybe the remote sender has network problems
[09:38:07] <sysmonk> djs_2_6: you can see that it's not postfix's problem. postfix waits 5 minutes and doesn't get any data from the remote sender, and closes the connection
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[09:59:07] <djs_2_6> Ohhhh
[09:59:33] <djs_2_6> Well, they ARE using sendmail, not postfix, so there we go...  ;-)
[10:02:17] <djs_2_6> I still think there is something way off about my mysql, though.  When I go to send an email from a client, it takes a while (~2 minutes) to get the mail off of my client, and util on mysql maxes out for a few minutes (on UltraSparc IIe@500MHz w/ 1GB ram)
[10:04:00] <djs_2_6> People on #openbsd say that postgresql is a better server, and to switch to it, but I am irritated by mysql, and want to figure it out.  Only thing being mysql is being used for is virtual setup for 3 domains, and roughly 10 users per domain...
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[10:05:25] <sysmonk> djs_2_6: don't listen to guys on openbsd :)
[10:05:26] <seekwill> There is a #mysql ;)
[10:05:34] <sysmonk> djs_2_6: mysql is allright with little databases
[10:05:53] <seekwill> MySQL powers Wikipedia. It can handle large databases as well.
[10:05:54] <sysmonk> i'd offer postgre on big servers with a lot of data, but on a simple thing as this -NO WAY
[10:06:09] <sysmonk> seekwill: yeah, but i'm not starting a flame ! :)
[10:06:12] <seekwill> ;)
[10:06:13] <djs_2_6> seekwill, I know, but they have totally blown off every question I have asked, no matter how I try...
[10:06:16] <dj-fu> mysql scales very well
[10:06:30] <dj-fu> my mysql mail setup @ work runs 6000~ customers
[10:06:33] <sysmonk> guys, stop! :) it's postfix not mysql
[10:07:00] <sysmonk> djs_2_6: and definetly it's not a mysql problem
[10:07:01] <djs_2_6> But if it is related to tuning for postfix, how is that off topic?
[10:07:05] <sysmonk> djs_2_6: it even doesn't get to mysql!
[10:07:32] <sysmonk> djs_2_6: it's database tuning, not postfix tuning
[10:07:35] <seekwill> djs_2_6: #mysql :)
[10:07:40] <djs_2_6> sysmonk, not that first problem, the second one I just posted...
[10:07:51] <sysmonk> djs_2_6: don't see any logfile, sorry
[10:08:04] <djs_2_6> seekwill, I do know that, as I had just said I have been there...
[10:08:28] <seekwill> djs_2_6: No, I mean I'm giving you MySQL advice there...
[10:09:00] <djs_2_6> sysmonk, there are no postfix errors for my sends, it is just the behavior is off from what it seems it should be...
[10:09:07] <djs_2_6> seekwill, I see now.  Sorry.
[10:09:27] <sysmonk> djs_2_6: no errors, but the timestamps will show where the problems are
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[10:40:24] <stony> morning
[10:40:30] <devdas> .
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[11:48:53] <[miles]> morning #postfix
[11:50:35] <[miles]> I've got postfix running, and passing mail to SA to scan for spam... all good and works great... I notice that the postmaster at host dot domain is also getting scanned. Is it possible to create a rule that if mail is to xxxx at host dot domain, it does not go via SA?
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[11:52:00] <sepski> why not just add to the   $spam_lovers in SA ?
[11:53:01] <[miles]> well, yes, I can do that
[11:53:02] <[miles]> however...
[11:53:11] <[miles]> I have ldap lookups for prefs
[11:53:12] <[miles]> etc
[11:53:15] <[miles]> so I want to avoid that
[11:53:29] <[miles]> so if I can do it at postfix level, it speeds things up
[11:53:45] <[miles]> also, it's a anti-spam relay... so it gets flooded with mail
[11:53:56] <[miles]> so speed and preformance are of the ensence
[11:57:32] <[miles]> could this easily be done?
[11:57:49] <sepski> i dont know, you might be able to do something with recipient maps.
[11:58:10] <sepski> stick around. someone might wake up that knows :)
[11:58:21] <[miles]> nah, I don't think thats gonna be able to control the passing to SA
[11:59:34] <[miles]> cos it's using pipe, maybe I check the domain part, and make a rule there
[12:01:14] <dman> hrm my root account isnt gettign mail, but it should be
[12:01:23] <dman> it shows up in /var/log/messages as sent
[12:01:30] <dman> well atleast passed to procmai
[12:02:30] <sepski> dman, do you have a root:  line in your aliases ?
[12:03:10] <dman> nope
[12:03:20] <dman> should i
[12:03:39] <[miles]> yes
[12:03:51] <[miles]> alias it to the user you want to recieve the mail
[12:04:08] <dman> what if i want root to recieve it :)
[12:04:13] <[miles]> then run postalias /etc/aliases
[12:04:24] <sepski> root should do adminastrive work, not read email :)
[12:04:35] <[miles]> he's right, 110%
[12:04:40] <dman> true
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[12:31:02] <Spads> I'm running postfix 2.3.8 (recent upgrade) and it refuses to deliver to MX records that point to CNAMEs now.  It never did this before.  What do I need to configure to fix this?
[12:39:33] <lawnchair> that sounds questionable
[12:43:44] <dj-fu> what does it say?
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[13:03:14] <misc--> hi, is there a way I can send some email addresses for domain.com to one server, and some other email addresses for domain.com to another?
[13:11:47] <lawnchair> misc--, http://www.postfix.org/transport.5.html
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[13:15:17] <misc--> great thanks.
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[13:28:56] <Spads> dj-fu: Host found but no data record of requested type
[13:29:10] <Spads> lawnchair: the RFC says should not rather than must not for MX->CNAME
[13:29:28] <Spads> lawnchair: I have no plans to point an MX at a CNAME for any of *my* domains, but I wish to send mail to people with broken DNS
[13:30:40] <Spads> my postfix 2.3.3 install had no trouble sending mail to these people
[13:31:03] <Spads> but when I upgraded to the feisty 2.3.8 package, my mails never even try to deliver.
[13:34:36] <Spads> unfortunately, googling for this situation only seems to turn up the fact that some recipient's DNS is broken.  Would that I had the power to fix everyone's boneheaded zone files, but for now I can't even tell the hostmaster at this domain that he's got a problem!
[13:38:20] <Spads> I think this may be part of the reject_unknown_recipient_domain check
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[15:09:20] <misc--> which is the postfix command to run again that tests regexp in transport file?
[15:09:44] <misc--> ah its ok I got it
[15:12:50] <BigBath> i got postfix running for a while, "bound to a specific IP address" using inet_interfaces, ok for listening for connections, but when it sends mail it doesnt bind to any ip and uses the last interface ... cant find that in the docs, and im trying to add an spf record. it would be nicer if mail actually came from the mail server ip. anyone knows how to fix this?
[15:17:46] <cpm> smtpd_bind_address
[15:18:28] <cpm> smtp_bind_address rather
[15:18:33] <cpm> !smtp_bind_address
[15:18:34] <knoba> cpm: 'smtp_bind_address' : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: An optional numerical network address that the SMTP client should bind to when making a connection.
[15:18:42] <cpm> come'on knoba!
[15:19:02] <sysmonk> knoba knoba knoba !
[15:19:02] <sysmonk> ;)
[15:19:04] <cpm> http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html
[15:21:09] <BigBath> thanks, cpm, worked like a charm
[15:21:33] <cpm> yw
[15:21:43] <sysmonk> 5$
[15:21:44] <sysmonk> ;)
[15:21:46] <BigBath> lol
[15:21:47] <sysmonk> joking
[15:22:11] <cpm> freenode can always use $5
[15:22:14] <sysmonk> 4$ to cpm and 1$ to knoba
[15:22:27] <sysmonk> er allright, 3$ to cpm, 1$ knoba, 1$ freenode
[15:22:27] <sysmonk> ;)
[15:22:44] <sysmonk> ah, or even 2$ to cpm 1$ knoba 1$ freenode 1$ me
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[15:55:17] <nclx> I'm setting up TLS between two postfix servers, one is acting as a TLS client to relay mail through the other better connected one.  I have created the certificate authority, signed server certificate, and signed client certificate.  Now I believe I need to store the fingerprint of the client cert in a file /etc/postfix/clientcerts.  So the example is: 57:E8:95:63:67:CD:2B:96:7C:0A:3A:61:46:A5:95:EA user at domain dot com, problem is since this is a ce
[15:55:30] <nclx> email address do I associate it with?
[15:55:45] <nclx> I can generate the fingerprint, I just don't know what value to pair it with
[15:58:45] <dj-fu> you can set @domain
[15:58:48] <dj-fu> instead of user@domain
[15:58:50] <dj-fu> (usually)
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[16:02:38] <nclx> and if the mail server will be relaying multiple domains then I just list the same fingerprint once per line multiple times with each domain?
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[16:06:17] <nclx> if I list the same fingerprint for multiple domains and then postmap it I get: postmap: warning: /etc/postfix/clientcerts.db: duplicate entry: "86:af:a6:8d:42:52:2d:4d:9d:75:55:45:10:80:b5:df"
[16:06:25] <nclx> is this okay? just informational?
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[18:13:07] <nclx> how can I tell if a postfix installation has TLS support compiled in?  Note: I didn't build it myself
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[19:19:01] <Kirsch> hey guys, quick question: for the virtual alias file, if i want to have an email go to 2 accounts, is the line separated by anything or is it space deliminated?
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[19:19:32] <Kirsch> nevermind, it's comma delimated
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[19:52:41] <LegolasV> hi, I can't get my virtual mailboxes to work. I just get a message from the postmaster saying the account doesn't exist. I've posted some parts of my main.cf and vmailbox's here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17092/
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[20:06:48] <knoxy> hi all.. how can I do to enable mysql support to maildrop 2 ?
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[21:53:15] <nictuku> hi all
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[21:57:05] <xpoint> we are idle :-)
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