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[00:26:11] <pdbogen> Is there a quick way to temporarily suspend delivery, but still accept it (keep it in the queue until I'm ready?)
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[00:38:33] <stony> hi
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[00:58:11] <dj-fu> pdbogen: You can place a message id on hold
[00:58:16] <dj-fu> with postsuper -h <id>
[00:58:45] <dj-fu> and then unhold it with -H
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[01:04:42] <VSpike> I'm still stuck trying to get my retraining aliases for dspam to work ... could do with some help.
[01:05:45] <VSpike> Postfix uses dspam as a content filter...
[01:05:50] <VSpike> smtp      inet  n       -       n       -       -       smtpd
[01:05:50] <VSpike>    -o content_filter=lmtp:unix:/tmp/dspam.sock
[01:06:26] <VSpike> the mail arrives at dspam with the user name "johncc@localhost"
[01:06:52] <VSpike> For retraining I created a transport:
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[01:07:16] <VSpike> retrain.localhost       dspam-retrain:spam
[01:07:55] <VSpike> Then in master.cf:
[01:08:01] <VSpike> dspam-retrain   unix    -       n       n       -       10      pipe
[01:08:01] <VSpike>   flags=Ru user=dspam argv=/usr/local/bin/dspam
[01:09:25] <VSpike> I can instruct dspam to extract the user from the destination address, e.g. spam-johncc at retrain dot localhost gets mapped either to "johncc" or "johncc at retrain dot localhost".  Neither matches the username the first time the mail is filtered, hence it can't match the signatures.
[01:10:48] <VSpike> Is there any way in the transport map, I can tell it to send spam-*@localhost to my dspam-retrain transport?
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[01:17:52] <hacim> is there a way to restrict postfix to only allow sasl_auth'd senders to send mail through the system (I do not want anyone who doesn't auth to even send mail to my domain)
[01:18:15] <hacim> in otherwords, accept all mail to all destinations if you auth, but dont accept anything to any place if you dont
[01:19:05] <hacim> could I just do something like:
[01:19:10] <hacim> smtpd_sender_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated, reject
[01:19:13] <hacim> ?
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[01:41:25] <shadou> hacim: yes
[01:41:30] <shadou> that's how you'd do it.
[01:42:43] <VSpike> I've put a line in my /etc/postfix/transport: /^spam-(.*)@localhost$/ dspam-retrain:$1
[01:43:43] <VSpike> when I send to spam-johncc@localhost I get "Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table"
[01:44:05] <VSpike> How can I tell postfix to accept mail to spam-<user>@localhost ?
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[01:47:42] <shadou> virtual_alias maps = hash:/etc/postfix/relay.virtual
[01:47:55] <shadou> incoming@mail spam-user@localhsot
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[01:53:23] <VSpike> shadou: How does that work?  I was looking at man virtual, but I can't see what that would do
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[02:05:34] <rob0> VSpike: Beware, there are two "man virtual" pages. Virtual aliasing is covered in virtual(5), whereas the one you probably got was virtual(8), virtual mailbox delivery agent.
[02:05:59] <rob0> So, try "man 5 virtual" or see virtual.5.html .
[02:06:35] <VSpike> man 5 virtual
[02:06:38] <VSpike> gotcha
[02:07:44] <rob0> Um, but scrolling up suggests that the answer was wrong. See:
[02:07:49] <rob0> !recipient_delimiter
[02:07:50] <knoba> rob0: 'recipient_delimiter' : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The separator between user names and address extensions (user+foo). See canonical(5), local(8), relocated(5) and virtual(5) for the effects this has on aliases, canonical, virtual, relocated and on .forward file lookups. Basically, the software tries user+foo and .forward+foo before trying user and .forward.
[02:07:59] <VSpike> If I get a delivery report on that address, it says <spam-johncc@localhost>: delivery via local: unknown user: "spam-johncc"
[02:08:16] <rob0> recipient_delimiter = -
[02:08:25] <VSpike> Why would it try to deliver via local?  Surely the regexp in the transport table would override that?
[02:08:53] <rob0> localhost must be in $mydestination>
[02:08:55] <rob0> ?
[02:09:03] <VSpike> It is
[02:09:38] <VSpike> Do I need to take it out, and then add it to the tranport table after my redirection entries?
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[02:11:52] <VSpike> I thought the transport map took priority over the default ones
[02:12:33] <VSpike> man canonical
[02:14:35] <rob0> Um, where/how do you want @localhost to be delivered?
[02:14:58] <VSpike> @localhost is currently delivered via maildrop
[02:15:15] <VSpike> What I'm trying to do is to create retraining addresses for dspam when it incorrectly tags something
[02:15:33] <VSpike> I've tried a few different approaches I've seen described, and can't quite get any of them to work
[02:17:59] <VSpike> So I want normal address <user>@localhost to be delivered to the users via maildrop, but for a special spam-<user>@localhost or notspam-<user>@localhost to be piped into dspam for retraining
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[02:20:46] <flami> Hum can it be taht the default pyzor server actually never responds ? I use the alternative server now but i read its not so good. Does anyone have some experience with that   ?
[02:21:12] <VSpike> dspam has a mode where it will recognise an address of that form and behave accordingly, working out if the mail was a false positive or false negative and who the user is
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[03:36:46] <efaistos> someone here ?
[03:37:25] <efaistos> I have a question I tried to put home_mailbox= Maildir/ but it's not workin' I still get my messages in /var/mail/user
[03:38:19] <efaistos> I tried also mail_spool_directory but not working more
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[04:19:53] <ben_h> hi folks
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[04:20:44] <ben_h> i'm looking for some tips on setting up postfix in a send-only environment (sending notification emails etc. for a web app). Is this a valid/recommended idea?
[04:21:50] <ben_h> the setup in question is corkboard.cc - i have a server that runs the site, and i have a postfix installation running on the machine that the site uses to send emails to users. mail to corkboard.cc is handled offsite though, so i can still get support requests if the server is down.
[04:22:42] <ben_h> so postfix is on corkboard.cc but shouldn't accept mail for that domain (and in fact should send it on elsewhere if any mail is queued to a corkboard.cc address). so I suppose I'll need to set $mydomain to something other than corkboard.cc?
[04:23:53] <shadou> or setup a transpfor for corkboard.cc to somewhere else
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[04:23:58] <shadou> so it accepts mail and then just relays it
[04:24:15] <ben_h> yeah that sounds like what i need
[04:24:32] <ben_h> any relevant cfg options i can google for that you know of?
[04:24:43] <ben_h> or rather, read through the sample cfg for :)
[04:25:02] <rob0> $mydomain has nothing to do with accepting mail; that's $mydestination (among others).
[04:25:15] <ben_h> ah yeah.
[04:25:28] <rob0> Google not, just look at your own local files.
[04:25:37] <ben_h> true. although $mydestination defaults to some settings including $mydomain yes?
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[04:25:42] <rob0> !standard
[04:25:43] <knoba> rob0: 'standard' : Your question is probably answered in http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html
[04:25:57] <rob0> I think there's a send-only config in there.
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[04:26:05] <ben_h> oh right
[04:26:08] <efaistos> nobody for my maildir question ?
[04:26:09] <ben_h> excellent. thanks a lot, i'll have a red
[04:26:11] <ben_h> read
[04:26:18] <korozion> anyone know of a postfix web front-end that will allow the creation many users on one domain, which can all create X number of mailboxes, and then admin only those X mailboxes?
[04:27:21] <shadou> phpmyadmin
[04:27:22] <shadou> is what I use
[04:27:34] <shadou> purely cause it's all mysql and that's how I have my postfix configured
[04:27:35] <korozion> it has to be stupid-user friendly
[04:27:43] <shadou> It's pretty stupid-user friendly, take a look at it.
[04:27:58] <korozion> I run it, but it needs to also only admin email accounts
[04:28:15] <ben_h> ahh, excellent - the null client config is exactly what i need.
[04:28:17] <ben_h> thanks folks :)
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[04:31:55] <admin__> I realize this isn't strictly a postfix issue, but I have imap-ssl working but pop3d-ssl fails... pop3d:Login Failed.  I am using courier auth through pam to ldap
[04:32:21] <shadou> lol
[04:32:26] <shadou> configure your pop3d correctly
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[04:33:03] <admin__> thanks, if I knew what was mis-configured about it, don't you think I would do it?
[04:33:37] <hparker> postfix != pop3
[04:35:21] <admin__> yes, and I did recognize that by both saying that "I realize this isn't a postfix issue" and "I am using courier" I just figured that the "We talk about our mail servers and help with problems" extended past the mta
[04:35:50] <shadou> //topic #
[04:38:09] <admin__> I didn't come here looking for a fight and I do regret that it degraded into one...
[04:40:05] <hparker> Wasn't wanting to start one
[04:40:34] <hparker> As for why it doesn't work, that's odd.. I don't remember doing much to get either working
[04:40:44] * rob0 wants a good fight
[04:40:55] <rob0> put 'em up, PUT 'EM UP!
[04:41:07] * hparker sends rob0 to http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v487/prophanger1/garfield.jpg
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[04:42:52] <rob0> I don't know, can you increase the Courier verbosity?
[04:43:10] <admin__> actually... from what little info I have it seems to be a pam issue.
[04:43:20] <admin__> I have to tell pam to auth pop3?
[04:43:28] <rob0> ah maybe so
[04:43:58] <hparker> If imap is using pam, I'd expect pam would be
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[04:45:01] <admin__> I see why no one uses LDAP
[04:45:40] <hparker> If the system uses pam, usually everything uses it
[04:46:14] <hparker> rob0: So, up for some buttsecks? ;)
[04:46:30] <rob0> haha
[04:46:59] <hparker> rob0: So, how's things with the kid going?
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[04:48:18] <rob0> Good. If I can hold onto my job, they'll hire him this summer.
[04:48:28] <hparker> Cool!
[04:49:08] <rob0> I've got a big computing job coming up, to set up a server and office network. So I'm secure at least until that's done. :)
[04:49:27] <rob0> If they like it as much as I hope, I'll be good thru the summer.
[04:49:29] <hparker> Still in the backwoods of arkansas?
[04:49:32] <rob0> yup
[04:49:37] <pbx> Hi, I'm really hoping to get some non-RTFM help here -- my VSP was DOS'd today and my hosting co turned off various daemons including Postfix. Now I'm trying to restart without much luck. PF is not running, but when I run postfix start I get: "postfix/postfix-script: fatal: the Postfix mail system is already running" ... what to try next?
[04:49:45] <pbx> s/VSP/VPS/
[04:50:06] <hparker> sounds like the .pid still exists
[04:50:25] <rob0> hmmm, is master running and listening on 25?
[04:50:53] <pbx> rob0: Nope
[04:51:11] <pbx> The requisite postconf -n in case it's relevant: http://dpaste.com/8784/
[04:52:53] <pbx> hparker: I rm'd what I thought was the appropriate file (/var/spool/postfix/pid/master.pid).
[04:53:06] <hparker> Hrrmm
[04:53:39] <hparker> Might look at the init script and make sure
[04:54:09] <pbx> hparker: Sorry, where?
[04:54:32] <pbx> (FreeBSD 6.1 FWIW)
[04:54:37] <hparker> How do you usually start postfix?
[04:54:40] <hparker> Oh
[04:54:45] <hparker> no idea on fbsd
[04:55:01] <pbx> hparker: sudo postfix start usually does it when I need to do it manually
[04:55:30] <hparker> Yeah, i'm no good with fbsd... Sorry
[04:57:48] <pbx> OK, thanks. Anybody?
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[05:03:33] <admin__> if anyone wants to know, the issue was I had to tell pam when authing pop3 to use kerberos
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[05:08:46] <shadou> I told you to configure pop3
[05:09:16] <admin__> in the syntax of hparker pam+kerberos !=pop3
[05:09:36] <hparker> ouch
[05:09:47] <admin__> :)
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[05:45:00] <pbx> So if postfix-script *thinks* postfix is running, but it's not, and I've deleted the pidfile left over from when it was... what else might be stuck that I can unstick?
[05:52:50] <pbx> Damn. Anyway, thanks for the earlier suggestions.
[05:53:31] <admin__> pbx, can you "stop" it?
[05:53:41] <pbx> admin__: no
[05:53:54] <admin__> what does the script return?
[05:54:06] <pbx> sed: pid/master.pid: No such file or directory
[05:54:20] <pbx> (I killed the pidfile manually)
[05:54:32] <admin__> gotcha, I saw that above
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[05:55:46] <pbx> I also get this in the log: "warning: bogus file name: incoming/957275.57746"
[05:57:36] <pbx> OK, got it
[05:57:46] <admin__> can you touch master.pid and restart it using the script?
[05:57:55] <admin__> what was the issue
[05:58:12] <pbx> permissions somewhere
[05:58:18] <pbx> `/usr/local/etc/postfix/post-install set-permissions` fixed it
[05:58:31] <pbx> 2678 items in mailq!
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[05:58:36] <pbx> (all for me)
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[06:06:30] <pbx> Thanks for the help, all
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[06:20:20] <w4nabe> hello.  I wanted to know...do user names on a server correspond to email addresses under that server's domain?
[06:20:46] <nictuku> not necessarily
[06:21:24] <rob0> For local(8) delivery, yes, but there are other choices; see ADDRESS_CLASS_README and this:
[06:21:28] <rob0> !virtual
[06:21:29] <knoba> rob0: 'virtual' : a way to configure additional domains and user accounts (that do not need to exist in your /etc/passwd). See: http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html
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[06:21:38] <nictuku> yes if they are so-called "local domains" - and there are also "aliases" which would point to those real accounts
[06:22:12] <w4nabe> but there would be addresses for the user names that do exist by default?
[06:22:13] <rob0> Local accounts are the easiest way to do it, and probably the best choice for small sites.
[06:22:22] <element43> does anyone know how i could setup something like  *.username at domain dot com where * is a wildcard and all mail would be delivered to username at domain dot com?
[06:22:49] <hparker> wildcards are evil
[06:23:10] <rob0> But yes, we know how to do them. We just also know why NOT to use them. :)
[06:23:17] <element43> ok why not?
[06:23:48] <rob0> When a spammer hits your domain with a dictionary attack, you'll regret it.
[06:24:10] <element43> ahh
[06:24:11] <hparker> To say the least
[06:24:45] <element43> I've been trying to come up with an alternative to creating temp accounts for each site i join (allowing me to track who exactly is spamming me)
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[06:25:13] <hparker> Look into + addressing
[06:25:14] <nictuku> element43, aliases or using + extensions
[06:25:28] <element43> + exentions?
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[06:25:59] <w4nabe> if i enter mail.<my domain>.net as a mail exchanger in dyndns will that send the mail traffic my way?  or should i maybe put in my ip?
[06:26:03] <dump_01> Hi everybody
[06:26:44] <hparker> w4nabe: Ask dyndns
[06:27:05] <w4nabe> ok
[06:27:09] <element43> i'm sorry but what exactly is +addressing and/or +extensions?
[06:27:10] <rob0> Actually although the + is more or less the standard, many brain-dead sites won't work. My rob0+geico@ mail from GEICO Insurance got lost until I made a just plain "geico@" alias.
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[06:27:19] <rob0> !recipient_delimiter
[06:27:20] <knoba> rob0: 'recipient_delimiter' : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The separator between user names and address extensions (user+foo). See canonical(5), local(8), relocated(5) and virtual(5) for the effects this has on aliases, canonical, virtual, relocated and on .forward file lookups. Basically, the software tries user+foo and .forward+foo before trying user and .forward.
[06:27:34] <rob0> I would suggest "recipient_delimiter =-"
[06:27:36] <element43> oh wow tha'ts easy
[06:27:46] * element43 dances
[06:27:53] <element43> you guys rock. you know that?
[06:28:00] <rob0> we do know that :)
[06:28:18] <rob0> And I'm going to rock myself to sleep now.
[06:28:34] <element43> ok take care. thanks for your help
[06:28:38] <element43> all of you :)
[06:29:02] <dump_01> Pleace somebody help me to solve this :http://groups.google.com/group/mailing.postfix.users/browse_thread/thread/af7d07057adfa437/2b55974a167abab7#2b55974a167abab7
[06:29:57] <dump_01> Another always_bcc problem..
[06:30:01] <dump_01> pissed off
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[06:32:48] <element43> man that was so much easier :) i'm thrilled :)
[06:34:43] <dump_01> element43: any ideas?
[06:35:10] <element43> i don't know much about postfix. I am barely smart enough to get it working for my own email heh
[06:36:06] <dump_01> element43: i home somebody know more ^)
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[06:37:24] <f3ew> moment
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[06:44:28] <dump_01> f3ew: its for me?
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[06:50:18] <nictuku> hi f3ew
[06:50:26] <nictuku> and bye all
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[06:50:43] <f3ew> the LMTP stuff is what you are feeding to your content_filter
[06:51:16] <f3ew> or at least to something listening on 127.0.0.1
[06:51:24] <dump_01> f3ew: so how to fix? where to dig?
[06:51:49] <f3ew> dump_01, why fix?
[06:52:00] <f3ew> Why are you sending to 127.0.0.1 in the first place?
[06:52:10] <dump_01> f3ew: i dont like it feed it twice!
[06:52:40] <dump_01> f3ew: its antivirus in 127.0.0.1:10031    inet  n      -      n      -      21      smtpd
[06:52:57] <f3ew> dump_01 there you go then
[06:53:16] <f3ew> turn off the antivirus and you won't see the LMTP stuff
[06:53:51] <dump_01> f3ew: u think everything is ok?
[06:53:57] <f3ew> yes
[06:54:33] <dump_01> f3ew: :) ok, tnx anyway
[06:58:16] <dump_01> where to paste?
[06:58:41] <f3ew> !paste
[06:58:42] <knoba> f3ew: Error: "paste" is not a valid command.
[06:58:49] <f3ew> rafb.net/paste
[06:59:17] <dump_01> i have 1 little question more
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[07:05:56] <dump_01> Can somebody explain me how it works... I think i miss the _basics_ of postfix: http://rafb.net/p/m8rytf74.html
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[08:36:58] <pexx> How do I get postfix to deliver mail for @domain.com to both a local account and a remote address?
[08:37:46] <f3ew> aliases?
[08:37:59] <f3ew> virtual_alias_maps?
[08:38:48] <dump_01> virtual. dont forget to postmap
[08:39:20] <dump_01> or aliases :)
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[08:44:21] <milligan> At the moment, postfix is logging to /var/log/messages .. how can I make it log to mail.log, mail.warn, mail.err in the same directory ?
[08:45:32] <f3ew> Postfix logs to syslog
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[08:55:16] <dump_01> # grep mail /etc/syslog.conf
[08:55:17] <dump_01> *.err;kern.warning;auth.notice;mail.crit                /dev/console
[08:55:17] <dump_01> *.notice;authpriv.none;kern.debug;lpr.info;mail.crit;news.err   /var/log/messages
[08:55:17] <dump_01> mail.info                                       /var/log/maillog
[08:55:38] <dump_01> its for milligan :)
[08:57:03] <dump_01> f3ew: how can i make postfix do always_bcc only one time after all filters?
[08:57:39] <f3ew> dump_01, run a second instance of Postfix
[08:57:44] <f3ew> that's the cleanest way
[08:58:42] <R1ck> mogguh
[08:58:55] <milligan> dump_01, nothing about mail in there :-\
[08:59:07] <milligan> that's /etc/syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf
[08:59:19] <dump_01> f3ew: could you take me an example of master.cf for this?
[09:00:02] <dump_01> milligan: im freebsd, thats my syslog config. it stores mail.info in /var/log/maillog
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[09:02:49] <milligan> At the moment, it has this: source src { unix-stream("/dev/log"); internal(); pipe("/proc/kmsg"); }; --AND-- destination messages { file("/var/log/messages"); }; AND THIS: log { source(src); destination(messages); };.
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[09:03:47] <dump_01> milligan: its your syslog config?
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[09:04:32] <milligan> Correct
[09:05:05] <[miles]> morning #postfix
[09:05:08] <[miles]> milligan: did you get sorted with the mysql lookups?
[09:05:16] <milligan> [miles], yep, got it sorted.
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[09:05:22] <[miles]> milligan: ah ok cool
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[09:05:42] <milligan> [miles], turns out it wasn't a mysql prob or anything at all. It was the hostname not being resolved correctly, which is a fatal error.
[09:06:00] <milligan> Added my host to /etc/hosts, and boom, good to go.
[09:08:34] <[miles]> sweet
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[09:14:19] <[miles]> Is there a way to make header_checks apply to only authetificated users when sending mail?
[09:14:31] <f3ew> no
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[09:14:57] <f3ew> milligan, that's a syslog-ng question then, you will have to fnd a syslog-ng channel
[09:15:38] <[miles]> f3ew: mmm I need to strip out some headers on mails sent via the likes of Horde
[09:15:41] <milligan> f3ew, yep .. I found that sysklogd is easier to configure, so I'll consider using that instead.
[09:15:55] <[miles]> f3ew: but not when a mail comes in, which is then relayed to a remote server
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[09:24:02] <R1ck> hm, I suppose it isnt possible for postfix to only accept mails for backup domains, when the primary MX server is down and reject them otherwise?
[09:28:49] <milligan> Does postfix log outgoing mail to syslog aswell ?
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[09:31:56] <[miles]> mmm anyone setup a catch all with ldap
[09:31:59] <f3ew> yes
[09:32:16] <[miles]> f3ew: yes to me or to milligan
[09:32:22] <f3ew> both
[09:32:24] <[miles]> :P
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[09:32:51] <[miles]> f3ew: how did you handle the catchall on ldap mate?
[09:33:06] <f3ew> [miles] the same way as with any other map
[09:33:43] <[miles]> uid=USER,dc=DOMAIN.COM,ou=domains,dc=ldap,dc=org
[09:33:48] <[miles]> is my dn format
[09:36:53] <[miles]> f3ew: mmm no sure if it will work with my config I do base, not sub or one
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[09:39:03] <[miles]> actually, using the term catch all, im not sure is correct...
[09:39:19] <[miles]> I want to relay all incoming mail based on domain
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[09:42:48] <f3ew> [miles] what matters is the output of postmap -q, not how you store it
[09:43:05] <[miles]> sorry yeah
[09:43:09] <[miles]> it's working actually
[09:43:20] <[miles]> I'm not quick off the mark in the mornings :-)
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[10:22:56] <sopues> I want to remove Received: headers on _outgoing_ mail only. How would I do this?
[10:23:21] <sopues> a check_headers IGNORE removes them all, on incoming rendering our spam-checks rather useless.
[10:23:33] <ZzIMMYy> anyone know how to fix:   dovecot: imap-login: Disconnected:
[10:23:44] <dump_01> /^Received: /   IGNORE
[10:23:57] <sopues> dump_01, that applies to incoming aswell
[10:24:55] <dump_01> sopues: oh i see now :)
[10:25:07] <sopues> we have a virtual trasport setup that I could modify, but that of course is only used for local domains, and I want to modify mails we send out to external domains
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[10:25:14] <f3ew> sopues header_checks apply to all mail
[10:25:15] <asdzxc> hi
[10:25:21] <f3ew> write a more exact expression
[10:25:37] <sopues> thats a pain the a** since I dont know all the headers I want to remove
[10:26:08] <sopues> we have users on dialup / GPRS having problems with spam-checks on foreign servers due to their ips being blacklisted.
[10:26:10] <asdzxc> when i set 'myhostname' to 'example.com' (instead host.example.com), the postfix i delivering e-mail to /var/mail/login instead useing virtual mailboxes
[10:26:15] <asdzxc> how can i prevent this ?
[10:26:47] <asdzxc> for example, i have mailbox user at example dot com which is working fine when myhostname = host.example.com
[10:26:57] <asdzxc> if i change it to myhostname = example.com
[10:26:58] <dump_01> sopues: remove all, except u _dont_ wanna remove?
[10:27:12] <asdzxc> postfix will deliver all emails for user at example dot com to mailbox /var/mail/user
[10:27:14] <sopues> I dont want them removed in incoming!
[10:27:21] <asdzxc> instead useing his virtual maildir
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[10:27:52] <sopues> If we get a mail from a at example dot com, I want to see all the Received headers. When we send to example.com, I want to remove for example Received: 10.0.0.111, or whatever ip is in there
[10:27:57] <milligan> Do any of you guys use pop-before-smtp ?
[10:28:17] <asdzxc> milligan yes
[10:28:26] <asdzxc> milligan is working fine
[10:28:46] <milligan> asdzxc, I can't seem to get it running on this comp .. it's not updating the db, and I can't quite figure out why.
[10:29:32] <asdzxc> milligan distro ?
[10:30:31] <milligan> In my conf, I have this: $logto = '/var/log/pop-before-smtp'; $file_tail{'name'} = '/var/log/dovecot.log'; and I'm using this pat: $pat = '^dovecot: [LOGTIME] Info: (?:imap|pop3)-login: ' . 'Login: .+? rip=[:f]*(\d+\.\d+\.\d+\.\d+),';
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[10:30:34] <milligan> This is gentoo
[10:30:45] <sopues> I think I found a solution, finally! : http://dev.riseup.net/privacy/postfix/
[10:31:15] <asdzxc> milligan inderwhich user is it running ?
[10:31:51] <milligan> A sample entry from /var/log/dovecot.log looks like this: dovecot: Apr 20 13:37:12 Info: pop3-login: Login: user=<account at domain dot tld>, method=PLAIN, rip=xx.xx.xxx.xxx, lip=yy.yyy.yyy.yy
[10:32:11] <possie> i was wondering if it was possible to supply a fallback transport host?
[10:32:13] <milligan> root     27214  0.0  4.1   6380  3784 ?        Ss   13:28   0:00 /usr/bin/perl -wT /usr/sbin/pop-before-smtp --daemon=/var/run/pop-before-smtp.pid
[10:32:16] <[miles]> guys, whats the best tool to compile mail stats of postfix?
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[10:33:00] <asdzxc> milligan you should look into config file and set the correct entry for $pat
[10:33:05] <asdzxc> milligan what's your pop3 daemon ?
[10:33:30] <milligan> asdzxc, dovecot
[10:33:48] <milligan> asdzxc, I pasted my pat above: $pat = '^dovecot: [LOGTIME] Info: (?:imap|pop3)-login: ' . 'Login: .+? rip=[:f]*(\d+\.\d+\.\d+\.\d+),';
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[10:34:04] <ZzIMMYy> i get dovecot: imap-login: Disconnected:
[10:34:05] <asdzxc> ah, sorry, i didn't notice that
[10:34:09] <ZzIMMYy> ya ya
[10:34:27] <milligan> ZzIMMYy, I get those aswell.. I have a $pat_out that handles those.
[10:34:52] <milligan> [miles], I think MRTG can do some of it for you.
[10:34:59] <[miles]> k
[10:35:08] <asdzxc> milligan if you do "egrep 'your pat entry' /var/log/dovecot.log" will it print any lines ?
[10:35:25] <ZzIMMYy> ?
[10:35:58] <ZzIMMYy> so you think $pat = '^dovecot: [LOGTIME] Info: (?:imap|pop3)-login: ' . 'Login: .+? rip=[:f]*(\d+\.\d+\.\d+\.\d+),'; will fix
[10:36:31] <milligan> asdzxc, can't say that I do.
[10:36:38] <asdzxc> milligan i mean this: egrep "^dovecot: [LOGTIME] Info: (?:imap|pop3)-login: Login: .+? rip=[:f]*(\d+\.\d+\.\d+\.\d+)," /var/log/dovecot.log
[10:36:54] <milligan> asdzxc, nope, no hits.
[10:37:11] <asdzxc> so this regexp is wrong
[10:37:21] <asdzxc> it will no match any log entries
[10:37:39] <asdzxc> and this is why the pop-before-smtp won't update DB file
[10:38:08] <asdzxc> (it can't see any new logged users)
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[10:38:17] <sopues> [miles], we are using awstats, and its working fine. Not sure if its fits your needs
[10:38:40] <[miles]> that would be a little bloated
[10:38:45] <[miles]> I'm just looking at this actually:
[10:38:51] <[miles]> http://www.arschkrebs.de/postfix/queuegraph/
[10:39:40] <ZzIMMYy> where i put $pat = '^dovecot: [LOGTIME] Info: (?:imap|pop3)-login: ' . 'Login: .+? rip=[:f]*(\d+\.\d+\.\d+\.\d+),';   ?? in dovecot.conf or dovecot-mysql.conf ?
[10:41:13] <milligan> ZzIMMYy, I dont think anyone has answered your question yet. That regex is for pop-before-smtp
[10:41:24] <asdzxc> is config directive 'smtp_helo_name' really working ?
[10:41:27] <milligan> asdzxc, are you a regexp guru, so you could tell me what mine needs to look like? :)
[10:42:17] <ZzIMMYy> hmm
[10:44:26] <asdzxc> milligan these 'rip=xx.xx.xxx.xxx' and 'lip=yy.yyy.yyy.yy' are IP addresses ?
[10:44:51] <ZzIMMYy> yea i got em 2
[10:46:18] <asdzxc> okie
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[10:46:26] <asdzxc> milligan try this: ^dovecot: \w{3} [ :0-9]{11} Info: pop3-login: Login: user=<*.>, method=PLAIN, rip=[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+, lip=[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+$
[10:46:46] <asdzxc> not the best but should work
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[10:47:19] <WorkJack> hi
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[10:48:25] <asdzxc> milligan beware that this log line should look different for several logins. for example, the method can change
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[10:48:50] <asdzxc> huh
[10:48:51] <WorkJack> I want to use ldap for virtual_alias_maps. I found some documentation that suggests using the mailRecipient objectClass. but I can't find the schema that does define that objectClass
[10:48:56] <asdzxc> i paste you wrong regexp :)
[10:49:03] <Ramses_II> hello everybody. i got troubles with my postfix queue - the delivery rate for routed mails is very slow - on high traffic (60-10 mails/minute) my queue is filling up and is sending out mails very, very slow. last time queue filled to 1000 messages and it took about 6 hours to geht them out (have to say, while that time, mails are coming in too) - HOW can i tune postfix to send out messages in queue VERY, VERY fast
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[10:49:17] <asdzxc> milligan this one is good: ^dovecot: \w{3} [ :0-9]{11} Info: pop3-login: Login: user=<.*>, method=PLAIN, rip=[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+, lip=[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+$
[10:51:09] <asdzxc> milligan you should try it with egrep on davecot log
[10:51:18] <milligan> asdzxc, looks to work
[10:53:39] <asdzxc> IS DIRECTIVE 'smtp_helo_name' really working in postfix ?
[10:55:58] <milligan> asdzxc, could you test the server, so I can see if it adds your ip to the relay list ?
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[10:56:14] <asdzxc> milligan tell me the IP, login and password
[10:57:43] <asdzxc> but be very fast :) i have to go
[10:57:50] <milligan> I told you in pm :)
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[10:58:00] <VSpike> I got an entry in master.cf like this:
[10:58:00] <VSpike> dspam-retrain   unix    -       n       n       -       10      pipe  flags=Ru user=dspam argv=/usr/bin/dspam-retrain $nexthop $sender $recipient
[10:58:04] <asdzxc> it doesn't work here until you are registered
[10:58:09] <milligan> oh
[10:58:17] <milligan> Um, join #ourtempchan for a sec
[10:59:03] <VSpike> If I change user to dpsam from the shell and do: cat spamtestmessage | dspam-retrain spam johncc@localhost spam-johncc@localhost
[10:59:08] <VSpike> Then it does what it should
[10:59:27] <milligan> asdzxc, you're logging in fine, but the DB is still saying that it has 0 ips.
[10:59:38] <asdzxc> hm
[10:59:49] <VSpike> When I send a mail to address spam-johncc@localhost I get this in the log: Apr 20 09:56:23 localhost postfix/pipe[5323]: 20DB17544B6: to=<spam-johncc@localhost>, relay=dspam-retrain, delay=0.07, delays=0.04/0.02/0/0.02, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered via dspam-retrain service)
[11:00:02] <asdzxc> are you sure the pop-before-smtp is looking in the right log file ?
[11:00:14] <VSpike> But it looks like the script was not called at all.. no logging output from it
[11:00:17] <VSpike> What am I missing?
[11:01:06] <asdzxc> milligan what's your $file_tail{'name'} config directive ?
[11:01:11] <milligan> asdzxc, /var/log/dovecot.log is showing lots of info ... and in /etc/pop-before-smtp I have this setting:
[11:01:29] <milligan> $file_tail{'name'} = '/var/log/dovecot.log';
[11:02:29] <asdzxc> really don't know what's wrong
[11:02:33] <asdzxc> sorry i have to go now
[11:02:42] <milligan> thanks for trying mate!
[11:02:46] <asdzxc> np
[11:02:47] <asdzxc> bye
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[11:19:33] <VagaStorm> hi I was wondering if any one cold recoment a tool to get statistics from postfix, I'm currently using mailgraph, but I would like to get a litle more detailed stats, and ifposible some info on the que
[11:20:36] <f3ew> pflogsumm.pl, postfix-stats
[11:20:54] <sysmonk> pflogsumm is great
[11:20:55] <sysmonk> imho
[11:20:56] <sysmonk> ;)
[11:20:59] <milligan> f3ew, do you have any experience with pop-before-smtp ?
[11:21:06] <f3ew> yes
[11:21:13] <sysmonk> uh, people still use that?
[11:21:18] <f3ew> yes
[11:21:32] <VagaStorm> thanx :p
[11:21:48] <milligan> f3ew, Im having some problem with it updating the database ... I've set it to watch /var/log/dovecot.log, and I've checked that the regex is returning data ... Any idea why it won't update the db?
[11:22:10] <sysmonk> milligan: does it have access to read dovecot.log ?
[11:22:11] <f3ew> milligan, what is the script logging?
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[11:22:38] <milligan> sysmonk, it's running as root, so I would assume so
[11:22:49] <milligan> f3ew, connects and disconnect on pop/imap
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[11:24:42] <f3ew> milligan, is the script logging any errors?
[11:24:56] <f3ew> Are you reffering to the right DB?
[11:25:14] <milligan> Sample connect cut from dovecot.log: dovecot: Apr 20 14:29:41 Info: imap-login: Login: user=<account at domain dot tld>, method=PLAIN, rip=xx.xxx.xxx.xx, lip=yy.yyy.yyy.yy
[11:25:30] <milligan> in my pop before smtp conf, I have:
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[11:26:51] <milligan> $debug = 1;,$logto = '/var/log/pop-before-smtp';,$dbfile = '/etc/postfix/pop-before-smtp';,$file_tail{'name'} = '/var/log/dovecot.log'; ___AND__ my regex: $pat = '^dovecot: \w{3} [ :0-9]{11} Info: (?:imap|pop3)-login: Login: user=<.*>, method=PLAIN, rip=[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+, lip=[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+$'
[11:30:53] <milligan> the log of pop-before only has this: Apr 20 14:35:21 Using 2 values for pre-authorized networks: `xx.xxx.xxx.xx/32', `127.0.0.1/32'
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[11:32:36] <milligan> All the info looks correct if I compare it to /usr/sbin/pop-before-smtp --dumpconf
[11:32:59] <jonn3> When working with several domains, should i use the same mx-host for all domains, or should each domain have it's own?
[11:33:14] <milligan> jonn3, depends how many mailservers you have.
[11:33:35] <milligan> jonn3, if you have one mailserver, ie mail.yourserver.com, then that will be the MX record for all domains that you're hosting on that server.
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[11:33:39] <jonn3> I have one mailserver, which currently runs 4-5 domains
[11:33:48] <jonn3> milligan: thank you
[11:34:18] <milligan> jonn3, no probs :)
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[11:39:40] <[miles]> anyone know anything good for baiting spam
[11:39:53] <[miles]> I activly need loads of it
[11:40:48] <sopues> sign up for random porn-page stuff? Just a guess
[11:42:27] <jonn3> One more thing, if i have two domains, let's say domain1.com and domain1.org, domain1.com points to domain1.org, whould it be nessecery for domain1.com to have an mx-host to recieve mail? or will all mails sendt to domain1.com be forwarded to domain1.org <- I hope you guys understood this, my english isn't that good and im terrible with words;)
[11:43:24] <milligan> You will need an MX record for each domain.
[11:43:43] <jonn3> ok, thanks
[11:44:05] <milligan> If you try to send an email to temp at domain1 dot com, the mta will do an mx lookup, find the server to connec to for delivery, and attempt to deliver it.
[11:44:51] <jonn3> ahh, of course, thank you:)
[11:48:13] <milligan> f3ew, sysmonk, any ideas?
[11:49:19] <f3ew> does it add the .db on it's own?
[11:49:24] <milligan> yeah
[11:49:44] <milligan> file /etc/postfix/pop-before-smtp.db -> /etc/postfix/pop-before-smtp.db: Berkeley DB (Hash, version 8, native byte-order)
[11:49:57] <f3ew> hmmm
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[11:50:28] <milligan> Is there any way I can be 100% sure that my pat is OK ?
[11:50:44] <f3ew> milligan where exactly are you capturing the IP?
[11:50:56] <milligan> f3ew, isn't that what the pat does ?
[11:51:11] <f3ew> It matches the line, but doesn't extract any parts of it
[11:51:21] <milligan> oh .. maybe that's the prob then ...
[11:51:24] <f3ew> you want a () in there
[11:51:36] <milligan> this is my current pat: ^dovecot: \w{3} [ :0-9]{11} Info: (?:imap|pop3)-login: Login: user=<.*>, method=PLAIN, rip=[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+, lip=[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+$
[11:51:37] <f3ew> rip=(stuff) or lip = (stuff)
[11:51:53] <f3ew> depending on which is correct
[11:52:09] <milligan> What's the difference to RIP and LIP ?
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[11:52:29] <f3ew> I don't know
[11:54:21] <milligan> I have a working version on another server.. that seems to use the rip only.
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[11:58:59] <milligan> f3ew, how can I verify if the command is correct ?
[11:59:06] <milligan> Will egrep verify it ?
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[12:05:45] <f3ew> perl
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[12:07:29] <milligan> ?
[12:08:11] <milligan> perl, and then run the command ?
[12:08:12] <milligan> perl 'command' /file/path ?
[12:08:25] <CrypTom> Hi all, I've just setup a new mailserver running zimbra (with postfix). Its works, I get all the mails, but the sender always gets an error message from postfix telling "Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender" even though it was delivered.
[12:12:56] <keanne> kudos to zimbra, but if your using the opensource version, you have to have a good backup scheme, otherwise, if something goes wrong with the filesystem and either one of the indexes become unsyncronized with one another...pooof!
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[12:24:16] <f3ew> which indexes?
[12:24:54] <ribasushi> in quite a few of the man pages I see user+extension@domain examples
[12:25:03] <ribasushi> where can I read more about the uses of +extension?
[12:26:01] * sysmonk uses the user+extension@domain to mail to different imap folders
[12:26:28] <ribasushi> sysmonk: how is this realised? a huge alias map or?
[12:26:45] <milligan> f3ew, sorry for being a pain in the ass, but how can I verify if my pattern is correct? And is it ment to return the IP only ?
[12:26:46] <ribasushi> I want to do something similar with dbmail
[12:27:06] <ribasushi> but the current setup just dumps address+anything in the inbox
[12:27:12] <sysmonk> no, just the mails goes to alex+stuff@domain, postfix sees it as alex@domain, and send to lmtp with alex+stuff@domain. imap puts the mail to alex@domain/stuff
[12:27:37] <keanne> f3ew, i've suffered a terrible setoff, not because of zimbra but of an EMC SAN device... message store and index were out of sync, reindexing never fixed it, cant find any error... cannot download messages because of message blob errors.
[12:27:44] <sysmonk> ribasushi: if it can't write to folder stuff it puts it into inbox
[12:28:01] <sysmonk> ribasushi: give access to anyone to put mail to folder stuff
[12:28:05] <ribasushi> ahaaa
[12:28:39] <ribasushi> I would think it will return the mail if something is wrong
[12:29:28] <sysmonk> nah, it will put it to the inbox
[12:29:41] <ribasushi> yes it does work now
[12:30:52] <ribasushi> is there a way to make dbmail reject mail it does not have a box for?
[12:31:02] <ribasushi> (I know it is the wrong channel)
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[12:51:36] <sysmonk> f3ew: maybe you know where to find the description of postfix's delay values ?
[12:52:03] <sysmonk> i mean the delays=0.73/0.01/0.02/833, what is 0.73 0.01 0.02 and 883 ?
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[12:55:24] <VSpike> I'm sure I'm missing something obvious here!  This is driving me crazy...
[12:55:53] <VSpike> master.cf has a pipe transport, with: flags=Ru user=dspam:dspam argv=/usr/bin/dspam-retrain $nexthop $sender $recipient
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[12:56:29] <VSpike> Log says the mail is being delivered to that transport (it's a perl script) but the script doesn't write any output to it's debug file
[12:57:21] <SID_seba> hey how to set virtual alias map to send a copy to other email and leave a copy in the acount inself
[12:57:24] <VSpike> Also the script should output something on stdin.. I'd expect to see that in the mail log
[12:57:40] <VSpike> What could be going wrong?
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[13:02:14] <stony> hi
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[13:27:50] <Turt|e> hi, i run mimedefang and postfix, and when i discard a message in mimedefang postfix sends a notification, can i disable that notification ?
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[13:31:08] <cpm> Turt|e, postfix sends a notification? Or mimedefang directs postfix to send a notification?
[13:31:36] <cpm> WorkJack, postfix doesn't care.
[13:32:05] <cpm> WorkJack, postfix just hands auth to cyrus-sasl, and it's up to cyrus to have a clue.
[13:32:28] <Turt|e> i looks like its postfix
[13:32:44] <Turt|e> postfix/bounce[15089]: 8BFD66033E: sender non-delivery notification: C701A60340
[13:33:16] <WorkJack> cpm: but what about virtual_alias_maps?
[13:33:40] <cpm> Turt|e, that's a bounce.
[13:34:13] <cpm> postfix must send a bounce, if the message bounces, that's by the rfc, why are you bouncing?
[13:35:17] <cpm> WorkJack, http://www.postfix.org/LDAP_README.html
[13:35:34] <Turt|e> hmm well i might have misunderstood the action in the log, i think its after trying to deliver, however i should get delivered
[13:36:49] <cpm> Turt|e, I know nothing of mimedefang, I think you need to look there a bit more closely. what does mimedefang do with a message it thinks is 'bad' ?
[13:40:05] <Turt|e> silently dicards its, it says in the man, i think its because i didnt reload all children or something, since those bounces shouldn't be there
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[15:08:50] <babo> What's the postfix page that goes through all the delivery systems again ? UNIX, VIRTUAL .etc ...
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[15:18:30] <PhoenixMage> Hi guys, is it possible to setup smtp auth for relaying without sasl?
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[15:30:20] <roe> PhoenixMage, how would you like to authenticate?
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[15:32:45] <[miles]> si
[15:32:46] <[miles]> yo
[15:33:02] 
[15:33:05] <sysmonk> english please?
[15:33:26] <[miles]> sysmonk: I'll explain, and if he can't speak english I'll take it to a PM
[15:34:20] <sysmonk> [miles]: maybe go to a PM in the beginning ?
[15:34:27] 
[15:34:50] <[miles]> sysmonk: well, if he does speak english, hes got more chance of getting support here
[15:35:15] <sysmonk> yeah, but if he could speak english he would start in english, wouldn't he ?
[15:35:25] <[miles]> sysmonk: not always, no
[15:35:30] <N0S3> [miles] comprendo ...
[15:35:38] <N0S3> [miles]: esperame unos minutos
[15:35:44] <[miles]> vale
[15:35:54] <[miles]> sysmonk: anyway, im english
[15:36:10] <sysmonk> heh, i'm lithuanian, and i can start speaking lithuanian too
[15:36:16] <[miles]> sysmonk: and it's not like there is that much movement in the channel
[15:36:27] <[miles]> sysmonk: :-)
[15:36:40] <sysmonk> but i don't think you would like that
[15:36:41] <[miles]> sysmonk: ah well, i'll just respond in Romanian
[15:36:42] <sysmonk> or anyone out here
[15:36:54] <[miles]> :-P
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[15:46:44] <PhoenixMage> Anyone able answer my question?
[15:47:08] <PhoenixMage> smtp auth without sasl?
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[15:51:15] <sysmonk> PhoenixMage: yes it is possible
[15:51:26] <sysmonk> but you have to have cyrus-sasl installed
[15:51:33] <sysmonk> but it doesn't have to be runing
[15:51:40] <sysmonk> postfix will use the libs of cyrus-sasl
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[15:55:25] <N0S3> [miles]:  disculpa, tuve que reportar un caso de pishing
[15:55:45] <N0S3> [miles]:  hablemos en priv , te parece?
[15:55:49] 
[15:55:54] <[miles]> quieres
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[15:58:40] <babo> how do I get the vmailbox to deliver to my mailbox + my email address ?
[15:59:15] <babo> support at mydomain dot com     mydomain.com/support, myemail at gmail dot com .... won't work
[16:00:20] <Signum> babo: you need to specify an alias in the virtual_alias_maps like support at mydomain dot com -> support at mydomain dot com, myemail at gmail dot com
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[16:03:24] <babo> support at mydomain dot com myemail at gmail dot com ... ?
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[16:03:45] <babo> Signum: Is the -> really applicable ?
[16:04:00] <N0S3> [miles]: te hablo pero quizas no te ha llegado nada
[16:04:11] <N0S3> dejame que me registre de nuevo
[16:04:34] <[miles]> ah vale...
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[16:04:57] <babo> restarting postfix regenerates all the maps right ?
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[16:06:15] <N0S3> si
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[16:11:21] <babo> Signum: it's delivering to the mailbox but it isn't sending it on to google... :-(
[16:11:37] <babo> I'm running postfix reload with this in my virtual file ...
[16:12:01] <babo> support at mydomain dot com myemail at gmail dot com
[16:12:15] <babo> The maillog doesnt' seem to throw up any errors ..
[16:12:45] <babo> seems to be doing it's job just fine. I've checked main.cf and it points to my virtual_alias_maps ...
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[16:14:44] <babo> Sigum: ?
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[16:15:34] <babo> anyone ?
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[16:19:14] <cpm> babo, 'support at mydomain dot com myemail at gmail dot com' != 'support at mydomain dot com, myemail at gmail dot com' (hint, , no ',')
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[16:19:48] <PhoenixMage> sysmonk: can you point me to some doco on that?
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[16:21:55] <babo> cpm: err ... I don't have any ',' in my file
[16:22:20] <cpm> babo, my point
[16:22:25] <babo> support at mydomain dot com myemail at gmail dot com
[16:22:28] <babo> should be ...
[16:22:32] <babo> support at mydomain dot com, myemail at gmail dot com
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[16:22:34] <babo> ?
[16:22:45] <babo> that seems kinda strange ... ?
[16:22:54] <cpm> <Signum> babo: you need to specify an alias in the virtual_alias_maps like support at mydomain dot com -> support at mydomain dot com, myemail at gmail dot com
[16:23:08] <cpm> why does that seem strange?
[16:23:22] <babo>  support at mydomain dot com -> support at mydomain dot com, myemail at gmail dot com    ... I should put that exact string in my file ?
[16:23:22] <cpm> the comma implies something else is coming
[16:23:34] <babo> I tried it and it didn't work ....
[16:23:42] <babo> k just a sec, thanks
[16:23:54] <cpm> bummer, what kind of mapping are you using, did you run postmap on your file?
[16:24:15] <babo> cpm: I ran postfix reload ...
[16:24:23] <babo> that rehashes the maps rigth ?
[16:24:29] <babo> virtual
[16:24:46] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Signum
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[16:25:01] *** Signum changes topic to "The Postfix MTA || Wiki: postfixwiki.org || Tutorials: nixcartel.org/~devdas/postfix.html || Read: workaround"
[16:25:28] *** Signum changes topic to "The Postfix MTA || Wiki: postfixwiki.org || Tutorials: nixcartel.org/~devdas/postfix.html || Read: workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc || Bot info: workaround.org/f=postfix || Please post postconf -n and relevant logs when asking questions || http://www.postfix.org/DE"
[16:25:33] <Signum> ARGH!
[16:25:40] <Roobarb> :o)
[16:25:59] *** Signum changes topic to "The Postfix MTA || Wiki: postfixwiki.org || Tutorials: nixcartel.org/~devdas/postfix.html || Read: workaround.org/moin/GettingHelpOnIrc || Bot info: workaround.org/f=postfix || Please post postconf -n and relevant logs when asking questions || http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html || Please know your Unix basics first || blackhole.securitysage.com is dead"
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[16:28:23] <Signum> babo: what is your definition for virtual_alias_maps? (try: postconf virtual_alias_maps)
[16:29:12] <babo> Signum: k, it works now. I had to explicitly run postmap on my virtual file ....
[16:29:19] <Signum> babo: ok
[16:29:25] <babo> /etc/postfix/virtual...
[16:29:26] <cpm> postfix reload does NOT rehash the files
[16:29:32] <cpm> postmap virtual
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[16:29:32] <babo> ah, d'oh
[16:29:53] <cpm> oh, sorry, wasn't paying attention
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[16:30:00] <cpm> (was stuck in scrollback
[16:30:27] <babo> I read a really good doc on the various postfix configurations that are availabe. UNIX system, virtual, relay etc. I can't remember if it was a man file or something in the docs. I've looked for it and can't find it ...
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[16:31:05] <Signum> The internet is virtually full of Postfix guides and howtos...
[16:31:26] <babo> aye
[16:32:04] <cpm> yeah, there is even www.postfix.org
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[16:33:53] <StarOfDeath> Hello
[16:34:00] <StarOfDeath> How are you?
[16:34:08] <StarOfDeath> Can you explain me something easy for you?
[16:34:30] <StarOfDeath> Please take a look at this:
[16:34:31] <StarOfDeath> debian:/etc/amavis# ls
[16:34:31] <StarOfDeath> amavisd.conf  conf.d  en_US  README.l10n
[16:34:31] <StarOfDeath> debian:/etc/amavis# ls conf.d/
[16:34:31] <StarOfDeath> 01-debian  05-domain_id  05-node_id  15-av_scanners  15-content_filter_mode  20-debian_defaults  25-amavis_helpers  30-template_localization  50-user
[16:34:32] <StarOfDeath> debian:/etc/amavis#
[16:34:41] <StarOfDeath> There is  a conf.d directory on amavis directory
[16:34:48] <StarOfDeath> inside of conf.d there is a file named 20-debian_defaults
[16:34:55] <StarOfDeath> Does /etc/amavis/conf.d/20-debian_defaults overrides the /etc/amavis/amavis.conf ?
[16:36:01] <R1ck> this is #postfix, not #amavis nor #debian
[16:36:41] <Signum> StarOfDeath: I'd expect the conf.d/* files to override the amavis.conf but you may want to try that out.
[16:38:23] <StarOfDeath> Thank you Signum
[16:38:27] <StarOfDeath> you are great!
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[16:40:54] <Signum> If making a good guess makes me great... what happens when I'm really right? :)
[16:42:35] <R1ck> god, i guess
[16:42:47] <R1ck> maybe guru first
[16:43:22] <StarOfDeath> Thank you
[16:51:27] <StarOfDeath> I had learn the answer the /etc/amavis/conf.d/20-debian_defaults overrides the /etc/amavis/amavis.conf file.
[16:51:30] <StarOfDeath> Thank you
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[18:49:23] <fleximus> Hi, I upgraded a server from postfix 2.1.4 to 2.3.7 and now my canonical_maps don't work anymore :-(
[18:50:08] <fleximus> I also tried to use sender_canonical_maps and recipient_canonical_maps instead of canonical_maps alone. Same result...
[18:57:38] <fleximus> strange enough that a postmap -q "user at my dot domain" hash:/usr/local/etc/postfix/sender_canonical_maps does match
[18:59:36] <rob0> hparker greylisted me! Bastard!
[19:00:10] * hparker blacklists rob0
[19:00:14] <rob0> ouch
[19:00:20] <hparker> ;)
[19:00:27] * rob0 blacklists hparker's CHECK
[19:00:46] <hparker> It is a friendly blacklist, fair enough?
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[19:01:03] <rob0> how long is your delay, 5 minutes?
[19:01:12] <hparker> 30 seconds
[19:01:27] <rob0> oh here goes the flush
[19:01:55] <hparker> hehe
[19:02:09] <rob0> delivered to your spamfolder
[19:02:50] <hparker> after playing with it I couldn't see a difference in 30 seconds vs 30 minutes
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[19:04:23] <rob0> yeah probably not. I just left mine at sqlgrey's default, 5m.
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[19:07:40] <fleximus> I thought that the cleanup daemon looks if the canonical_maps variable is set and let the headers rewrite if needed. What circumstances can stop this behaviour?
[19:08:29] <rob0> what's being logged about it?
[19:09:27] * hparker sees email from rob0
[19:09:37] <fleximus> rob0: if you're talking to me, nothing's logged about it
[19:09:38] * rob0 hides
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[19:20:29] <lunaphyte_> who wants to provide end user support to me?
[19:21:00] * lunaphyte_ can't use his own mail server.
[19:24:12] * rob0 wants to but is busy :)
[19:32:37] <hparker> lunaphyte: ??
[19:33:43] <hparker> lunaphyte_: ^^
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[19:36:52] * lunaphyte_ drops a pair of fencing pliers.
[19:37:03] * cpm uses lunaphyte_'s mail server
[19:37:36] <lunaphyte_> someone please hit me in the neck.
[19:37:49] <lunaphyte_> i hijacked myself and forgot about it.
[19:37:59] * lunaphyte_ takes his socks off.
[19:38:17] * rob0 obliges
[19:38:30] * rob0 hides from the sock smell
[19:38:54] * lunaphyte_ meant to say he takes his socks5 off.
[19:39:15] <rob0> it still smells bad :(
[19:39:32] <lunaphyte_> that might be from my brain decomposing.
[19:39:48] * cpm does something random and clever to rob0, but just can't think of what right now
[19:40:09] <rob0> ah yes, the distinct odor of brain rot
[19:40:33] * rob0 can't think of a clever response to cpm
[19:40:36] <lunaphyte_> i still can't figure out why mail.app insists it's imaps connection attempts are being refused, yet i can connect perfectly fine from a shell on the same machine using openssl.
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[19:41:03] <rob0> lunaphyte_: using the same DNS name?
[19:41:19] * lunaphyte_ double checks.
[19:41:53] <lunaphyte_> yes.
[19:42:50] <lunaphyte_> the whole thing is silly to begin with.  the computer was working just fine.  i shut it down and moved it to another room, and now it's being retarded.
[19:42:56] <lunaphyte_> only imap though.
[19:43:51] <lunaphyte_> it's gotta be the server though, somehow.  other machines have the same problem ,suddenly.
[19:44:04] <lunaphyte_> babble babble, blah blah...
[19:44:21] <lunaphyte_> where's my rattle?
[19:44:43] * rob0 is rattled
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[19:52:59] <dazjorz> Hi
[19:53:06] <dazjorz> I'm trying to authenticate using SMTP on Postfix
[19:53:13] <dazjorz> However it fails to accept my password
[19:53:24] <dazjorz> I'm currently pasting the errors in the syslog to a pastebin
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[19:54:06] <dazjorz> http://paster.dazjorz.com/?p=75
[19:54:15] <dazjorz> I'm using Postfix + SASL + MySQL authentication
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[20:33:00] <cpm> dazjorz, you'll need to configure sasl
[20:33:22] <dazjorz> cpm: do you have any idea what's unconfigured about it, or how to configure it?
[20:33:31] * hparker configures cpm
[20:33:45] <xpoint> cpm is  8 bit os
[20:33:54] * hparker unconfigures cpm ... that's nasty
[20:34:11] <cpm> dazjorz, what's unconfigured, , , is sasl
[20:34:20] <cpm> there are a lot of ways to configure it.
[20:34:25] <xpoint> pip a: a:
[20:34:34] * cpm chuckles
[20:34:53] <dazjorz> cpm: I have no idea how, and there's no /etc/*sasl*... where exactly do I configure it?
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[20:34:57] <dazjorz> cpm: I don't even know what sasl is.
[20:35:14] <hparker> dazjorz: And you're the admin?
[20:35:38] * hparker waddles off
[20:35:38] <cpm> assuming there isn't something distro specific about your set up, you could start here
[20:35:38] <dazjorz> hparker: I'm pretending to be the admin, yeah.
[20:35:40] <cpm> http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html
[20:35:50] <dazjorz> cpm: It's from Debian
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[20:37:02] <cpm> http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/
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[21:28:00] <Blackvel> hi. where do I have to setup postmaster@postfixserver address? tried to send me an email and it got rejected
[21:28:02] <Blackvel> to=<no at vs3711 dot vserver4free.de>, orig_to=<postmaster at vs3711 dot vserver4free.de>, relay=local, delay=1.5, delays=0.79/0.2/0/0.5, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (unknown user: "no")
[21:28:15] <Blackvel> is there any alias / config file?
[21:29:26] <Blackvel> do I have to use /etc/aliases?
[21:30:48] <Blackvel> ah found it
[21:30:51] <Blackvel> :)
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[21:33:04] <Peste_Bubonica> Hi all
[21:34:16] <Peste_Bubonica> How can I configure a Content Filter to filter only Incomming E-mails?
[21:42:48] <xpoint> Peste_Bubonica, install amavisd-new, and make a standard policy bank where you disable spam test and or virus test, why do you want it ? :-)
[21:44:09] <Peste_Bubonica> xpoint, im using a SpamFilter that checks all email, and creates varios config files and directories for all email checked...
[21:45:05] <xpoint> okay
[21:46:00] <xpoint> simplest is to put content_filter pr interface then in masster cf
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[21:46:01] <rcsu> AOL is really strange wrt accepting bulk mail
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[22:03:47] <Dantix> hi, how can I configure postfix to check relay_domains from a table?
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[22:25:42] <Zerberus> Dantix: just as the docs say?
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[22:38:01] <Dantix> Zerberus: yes, as I just found ;)
[22:38:10] <Dantix> Zerberus: thanks, anyway
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[23:18:22] <Lars_G> Hi guys.
[23:18:27] <Lars_G> and non humans too
[23:18:55] <Lars_G> I have two questions. and here they are:
[23:19:28] <Lars_G> A) Is rejecting mail from FQDless smtp servers done to minimize spam a de facto right now or has it been made a de juro into some rfc?
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[23:20:29] <Lars_G> and B) Is there any well written, pre-written letter of "your server doesn't follows RFC standards, fix it and stop complaining to us" you'd recommend me to appease "morons"? (I can write like hell. If I do it myself either they wont get what i am saying or will get mad at me)
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[23:24:53] <scruffy> does every domain I'm authoritative for, and relay mail for, have to have a postmaster@ address?
[23:25:11] <rob0> Lars_G: A. Arguably RFC ... 1912 I think. But more a de jure antispam thing. Getting to be more and more safe as some of the Big Players are doing it. B. What's the point? Morons, by definition, won't learn.
[23:25:47] <rob0> But, look at what some of the Big Guys use. http://postmaster.aol.com/ perhaps.
[23:26:30] <rob0> Edgeman: see the commented example for submission in master.cf.
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[23:26:53] <rob0> scruffy: yes.
[23:28:46] <scruffy> rob0: which RFC should I be looking at? I can't seem to find the right one.
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[23:29:54] <rob0> not sure, but I bet rfc-ignorant.org would have that info.
[23:30:09] <wad> I've got two domains hosted on one box, AAAA.com and BBBB.com. Using local delivery. me at AAAA dot com works fine, but me at BBBB dot com is rejected "Relaying denied" and "user unknown". I've got both AAAA.com and BBBB.com in main.cf's mydestination setting. Ideas?
[23:30:31] <scruffy> rob0: looks like 2821. I'll check out rfc-ignorant.org, thanks.
[23:30:44] <rob0> Looks like BBBB.com is not being recognized as part of mydestination.
[23:31:13] <wad> rob0, yeah, that's what I was thinking too.
[23:31:19] <rob0> the "user unknown" error says exactly what?
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[23:31:20] <wad> So I made sure it is, I think.
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[23:32:18] <wad> 550 5.1.1 <me at BBBB dot com>... User unknown <<< 503 5.0.0 Need RCPT (recipient)
[23:32:51] <wad> That's what it says. :)
[23:32:57] <rob0> That does not look like a Postfix log message.
[23:33:06] <wad> that's what is bounced back.
[23:33:12] * wad grabs the log
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[23:34:14] <wad> The "user unknown" doesn't show in the log at all.
[23:34:32] <wad> It just has it being received, and then something being sent out.
[23:34:50] <rob0> probably DNS for BBBB.com points elsewhere
[23:34:58] <wad> Hmm.
[23:35:06] <wad> Maybe an edit of my hosts file is in order.
[23:35:08] * wad checks
[23:37:08] <wad> What if I make an entry in /etc/hosts to point AAAA.com and BBBB.com to 127.0.0.1 ?
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[23:40:27] <wad> Nope, same thing.
[23:40:33] * wad racks his brain
[23:43:21] <gpled> does it seem like their is a big drop in spam today?
[23:43:55] <ZzIMMYy> ;/
[23:48:37] <rob0> !standard
[23:48:38] <knoba> rob0: 'standard' : Your question is probably answered in http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html
[23:48:50] <rob0> wad: ^^ see about "fantasy" hostnames
[23:49:01] <rob0> I think you have to disable DNS lookups.
[23:49:03] <wad> ok
[23:49:34] <rob0> Of course, no one else can send to you from the outside, but I guess you knew that.
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[23:52:33] <scruffy> rob0: thanks again for the postmaster info.
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[23:55:57] <wad> Oh, heh, I'm good with host names. dyndns.com rules.
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