[00:00:02] <jaredo> I need it to auth the full user@domain
[00:01:23] <hparker> Add -r to... I forget :P
[00:01:28] * hparker pokes around
[00:02:03] <jaredo> <3
[00:03:00] <hparker> saslauthd -r
[00:03:11] <hparker> Mines -a pam -r
[00:03:16] <hparker> Now... Food!
[00:03:46] <jaredo> thanks ill try
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[00:13:41] <drraid> Although not chrooted (as set in master.cf) I am getting permission errors in the postfix log for inability to create maildir file
[00:14:10] <drraid> the maildir is user/group of postfix, and if i setuid to that uid i can manually touch/create/remove files in the maildir
[00:14:37] <drraid> What could I have screwed up?
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[00:19:27] <jaredo> hparker: how do you get courier to use saslauth?
[00:22:26] <jaredo> or how did you :
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[00:37:54] <kombi_> this is slightly weired, got saslauthd working and helo host returnd auth login plain, but still I can telnet in from outside and send mail.. what might be wrong
[00:38:08] <kombi_> ?
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[03:22:47] <elbac> Does postfix support address+random at xxx dot com type boxes?
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[03:47:32] <Ciantic> hmm, what should I configure to get rid of these "...localdomain does not exist (in reply to RCPT TO command))" undelivered mail messags?
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[09:10:20] <hachiya> vmailadmin + roundcube works well
[09:10:32] <hachiya> nice to finally have this all set up
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[09:55:12] <siddharta> hello everybody
[09:56:23] <siddharta> i 've configured my postfix in order to relay the mail of the local server (127.0.0.1) to the smtp of my ISP
[09:57:29] <siddharta> but when i try to send a mail outside with this command echo "Un message de test" | mail -s "sujet de test" my-email at address dot net
[09:57:51] <siddharta> i get this message in my maillog file
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[10:02:38] <siddharta> http://pastebin.ca/446043
[10:02:40] <stony> morning
[10:02:50] <siddharta> good morning stony
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[11:21:50] <siddharta> excuse me but i would like to know something : i would like to send all mail produced in my private local machine to my professional adress email, so i mean it is relayed
[11:22:32] <siddharta> my private locale machine uses dyndns to have a domain name,
[11:22:59] <siddharta> i configured postfix to relay local mail to my professional email address
[11:23:11] <siddharta> but i get these message http://pastebin.ca/446112
[11:23:22] <siddharta> does someone could help me please
[11:36:32] <siddharta> is ther somebody here
[11:36:35] <siddharta> there
[11:36:41] <siddharta> ?
[11:37:44] <f3ew> moment
[11:38:49] <f3ew> Apr 18 11:09:52 FENUA postfix/local[19907]: BA61F45168: to=<michael.henneton at intellitec dot net>, relay=local, delay=0.05, delays=0.03/0.01/0/0.01, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (unknown user: "michael.henneton") <=== this is because you have configured intellitec.net to be a local domain in mydestination, but michael.henneton does not exist in /etc/passwd or in alias_maps
[11:44:44] <siddharta> f3ew: you are totally right
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[11:46:20] <siddharta> that is ok now i really deeply thank you f3ew
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[11:50:18] <f3ew> yw
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[12:19:02] <macsim> hi, a client can't send me email when he try he receved : 04 5.5.2 <serveurlinux>: Helo command rejected: need fully-qualified
[12:19:02] <macsim> hostname (in reply to RCPT TO command)
[12:19:15] <macsim> I found in google it was a problem with smtpd_banner
[12:19:38] <R1ck> no, its a problem with the clients greeting
[12:19:49] <macsim> my smtpd_banner and smtpd_helo_name is fine
[12:20:15] <macsim> R1ck, yes but why can he send email to other smtp server and no mine
[12:21:47] <R1ck> because your's is set to require a valid hostname, and he's not giving it
[12:21:52] <Roobarb-Work> because you have reject_non_fqdn_hostname in either smtpd_helo_restrictions or smtpd_recipient_restrictions
[12:22:13] <macsim> ah thx mates, so he change his conf, or I move mine ?
[12:22:23] <Roobarb-Work> he should correct his config
[12:22:29] <macsim> thx a lot
[12:23:12] <Roobarb-Work> most likely, his systems hostname is not fully-qualified and his MTA is using whatever his OS has
[12:23:14] <macsim> I suppose it's a bad idea to accept non_fqdn_hostname ?
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[12:23:54] <Roobarb-Work> I reject_non_fqdn_hostname and it cuts out a LOT of spam
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[12:24:19] <macsim> Roobarb-Work, it was my gool as well ;)
[12:24:24] <Roobarb-Work> in fact about 50% of the mail that hits my relays is rejected through that one settning
[12:24:33] <macsim> brillant ;)
[12:24:39] <Roobarb-Work> and I've yet to have a single complaint of missing mail
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[12:26:03] <siddharta> now the postfix server is configured to relay mail outside (thanks to f3ew), i would like to redierct all the mail kept in /var/mail/root outside , do you know how ?
[12:27:06] <Roobarb-Work> For new mail, change the "root" alias to a real address. For mail sat in a mail box, you will need to resubmit it
[12:28:01] <siddharta> Roobarb-Work: how can we resubmit it
[12:28:12] <f3ew> formail
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[12:32:01] <siddharta> f3ew: there is no formail in freebsd port
[12:33:17] <weggpod> pqp
[12:36:42] <f3ew> It's part of the procmail package
[12:44:16] <siddharta> ok thank you
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[13:20:25] <Turt|e> Hey, if would like to have the relay_recipients map in mysql, would it then be enough to select the domain or should the sql query contain an right hand side too ?
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[13:21:21] <f3ew> select anything if the recipient exists, otherwise nothing
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[13:26:36] <Turt|e> but the only check that is done then is wether or not the query returns anything ? If so, how will i check for the @domain.tld wildcard if a specefic domain is in %s
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[13:56:17] <tehmaze> good afternoon
[13:56:28] <tehmaze> would it be possible to assign processing priorities to domains?
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[13:58:41] <zapalotta> tehmaze: I don't think so. Actually, it wouldn't make much sense anyways
[13:59:10] <tehmaze> zapalotta: it's always a fifo queue?
[13:59:57] <zapalotta> I think so, yes
[14:00:25] <tehmaze> hmm too bad
[14:00:47] <zapalotta> simply use a faster server :-P
[14:00:51] <tehmaze> I was thinking of a system where 'catch all' domains would be treated with less priority than 'sane' domains
[14:01:19] <cpm> just curious, but why do folks use catchall ?
[14:01:28] <cpm> seems like a huge mistake to me
[14:01:32] <zapalotta> to catch all spam? :)
[14:01:38] <cpm> ube magnet
[14:01:43] <tehmaze> cpm: yes, it's horror, but demanded by customers for <insert lame reason here>
[14:02:01] <cpm> sounds like customers you /want/ your competition to have
[14:02:16] <zapalotta> hehe
[14:02:28] <tehmaze> yes let's start an endless debate about that now.. ;)
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[14:03:25] <cpm> build another box to handle the domains that want catchall,
[14:03:44] <cpm> on an old 386 or something
[14:03:58] <tehmaze> hmm, what about delivery concurrencies per domain, is that possible?
[14:04:19] <cpm> naw, setting concurrencies only works per transport
[14:04:30] <cpm> again, you could build another box
[14:05:42] <tehmaze> hmm or run 3 postfix instances, one world-facing MTA that would accept all mail and transport it either to the 'goodboy' or 'badboy' instance with different concurrency limits
[14:06:36] <tehmaze> or better just add more capacity to my postfix cluster to handle all 'bayboys'
[14:06:38] <tehmaze> bad*
[14:06:44] <cpm> or set a domain specific relay
[14:06:56] <cpm> from your main MTA
[14:07:04] <cpm> to separate postfix instances
[14:08:27] <tehmaze> well it's a ha/keepalived balanced set of servers, but yes, that would be an idea
[14:09:26] <Turt|e> sorry to break in, im just testing some mysql integration and i fell over postmap -q hash:.... return the wildcard if any, and dont expand it, but postfix itself will expand this right ?
[14:10:20] <OmiKrOn> ok i have a problem
[14:11:01] <OmiKrOn> i run postfix -c /etc/psotfix upgrade-configuration and i get a error stating: postfix/postfix-script: fatal: usage: postfix start (or stop, reload, abort, flush, or check)
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[14:13:34] <tehmaze> Turt|e: postfix doesn't expand wildcards in mysql
[14:13:48] <tehmaze> Turt|e: use LIKE or REGEXP lookups
[14:15:08] <Turt|e> hmmm crap
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[14:17:44] <Turt|e> but how does it lookup wildcards in hash then ? when i querry a hash (postmap -q) it only returns ok for the wildcard itself but does not expand it, but still the wildcard should work in postfix
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[14:33:37] <cpm> Oh, I just fired up Pine for the first time in years
[14:33:44] <cpm> What a joy, the way email used to be
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[14:38:01] <OmiKrOn> pine rocks
[14:38:13] <Roobarb> pine? *shudder*
[14:41:38] <Fullmetal-Mavez> yes
[14:41:40] <Fullmetal-Mavez> pine ftw!
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[14:42:49] <Turt|e> does anyone use mysql in postfix, and on how busy servers ? i just did a simple query and i seems rather slow, and the sql is on the sameserver right now
[14:43:49] * f3ew fires up mutt
[14:43:54] <f3ew> wait, I never shut it down
[14:44:05] <Fullmetal-Mavez> my pine can beat up your mutt
[14:44:07] <f3ew> Turt|e MySQL works just fine
[14:44:25] <f3ew> My previous employer was doing ~ 35M lusers in MySQL
[14:44:34] <Turt|e> hm
[14:45:01] <Turt|e> well might just have been a one time hang ...
[14:45:08] <flami> yeah mutt weee
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[14:46:43] <flami> who thinks mutt can beat pine in a fair fistfight ? :P hands up ( *lift hand )
[14:47:00] <Fullmetal-Mavez> booooo
[14:47:03] <Fullmetal-Mavez> hiss
[14:47:08] <Fullmetal-Mavez> >_<
[14:47:20] <flami> hehehe
[14:47:23] <Roobarb> I run a DNS server using MySQL and average query time is negligibly low
[14:53:39] <cpm> what the heck does that have to do with a mutt/pine holy war?
[14:54:03] <zapalotta> EMACS!
[14:54:33] <cpm> I used emacs mail exactly once
[14:54:45] <cpm> was a day of woe
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[15:24:29] <flami> NooOoo where are the links from the topic , I gotta send that how-too to someone
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[15:27:41] <zim> hi all anyone in
[15:28:13] <flami> *cough*just ask*cough*
[15:28:17] <Zaw> no, we're all out sorry
[15:28:44] <zim> i need make postfix listen on port 25 AND another port say 2025 how do i do this
[15:29:21] <cpm> zim, what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[15:29:53] <Roobarb> zim: duplicate your smtp line in master.cf for the new port? IIRC there are issues with sharing queues though
[15:30:19] <zim> well in the uk we have allways had a proble with freeserve/wannadoo/orange forcing you to use there SMTP server
[15:30:38] <Roobarb> hence why I use BT :o)
[15:31:12] <zim> yup but i have a cliant who has signed up for an 18 month contract
[15:31:22] <cpm> and how will opening an arbitary port change that?
[15:31:27] <Roobarb> putting your SMTP service on a port !=25 will still not allow anyone on the Internet to send mail to you
[15:31:33] <cpm> smtp *is* port 25
[15:31:57] <f3ew> use the submission port!
[15:32:08] <zim> they only filter port 25 not the protocal
[15:32:24] <cpm> that won't change outbound port 25 being blocked
[15:32:44] <f3ew> just uncomment submission
[15:32:49] <f3ew> 587 is a RFC
[15:33:12] <cpm> f3ew, I don't think that will make any difference, he's trying (from what he says) to run around an upstream port 25 block
[15:33:20] <zim> yes but you can set that in the email cliant to connect to my server (1and1) on port 2025
[15:33:26] <cpm> zim, no no
[15:33:33] <cpm> what f3ew said, is the correct way
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[15:33:55] <zim> so what do i do
[15:34:44] <cpm> Read this document please
[15:34:46] <cpm> http://www.maawg.org/port25
[15:34:54] <zim> k
[15:38:56] <zim> so how do i config my server to use port 587
[15:40:08] <zim> roobarb i think you are still missing what i am trying to do
[15:40:25] <zim> my cliant wants to send emails
[15:42:01] <zim> she can use smtp.orangehome.co.uk but she is a secretary of a local club and needs to send a news letter out to all the members
[15:42:04] <f3ew> just uncomment submission in master.cf
[15:42:14] <zim> there are about 130
[15:42:27] <zim> ok will try
[15:42:54] <zim> where is master.cf
[15:42:59] <Turt|e> if i run mysql transport table in mysql and the mysql server is down, what will then happen, will the mail queue ? or temp fail or ?
[15:43:08] <zim> not in /etc/postfix
[15:43:43] <zim> my server is a 1and1 root server running pleask 8
[15:44:22] <zim> i know plesk move confs and stuff so may be all screwed up
[15:44:42] <zim> it also uses qmail if thats any help
[15:46:15] <zim> but i think qmail is inbound mail but i may be wrong
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[16:34:53] <Sp4rKy> hi
[16:35:00] <Sp4rKy> i need some help about spamassassin
[16:35:17] <Sp4rKy> i would log spamassassin actions in a different file than mail.log
[16:35:25] <Sp4rKy> anyone knows i doing that?
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[16:56:35] <cpm> Sp4rKy, a lot of variables in that question.
[16:56:42] <Sp4rKy> hmm
[16:56:52] <Sp4rKy> i don't fine any conf variable for spamassassin
[16:56:52] <cpm> how are you calling spamassassin? are you running spamd ?
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[16:56:58] <Sp4rKy> yes
[16:57:04] <cpm> how are you calling it?
[16:57:11] <cpm> are you running amavis? or spamd directly?
[16:57:20] <Sp4rKy> briceb: can you answer
[16:57:21] <briceb> cpm: spamd directly
[16:57:27] <briceb> :)
[16:57:31] <Sp4rKy> cpm: my question is for briceb :)
[16:58:00] <cpm> man spamd
[16:58:02] <natsumey> hi
[16:58:11] <natsumey> i have a problem with postfix
[16:58:12] <briceb> cpm: yeah, thx
[16:58:18] <natsumey> i dont want accept ldapv3
[16:58:19] <natsumey> http://pastebin.ca/446434
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[16:58:29] <natsumey> anyone here have a solutions
[16:58:44] <briceb> cpm: --syslog=mail ? Because I tried that already
[16:59:16] <briceb> it's working with --syslog=./spam.log everything is going correctly to this file
[16:59:17] <Sp4rKy> briceb: hu
[16:59:22] <cpm> in your syslog.conf, specificy a spamd.* logfile
[16:59:25] <cpm> under mail
[16:59:50] <briceb> okey
[16:59:52] <Sp4rKy> briceb: did you try with --syslog=spam + the line i said to add in /etc/syslog.conf ?
[17:00:29] <briceb> Sp4rKy: yes, with "spam", but not with "spamd"
[17:00:43] <briceb> going to try with spamd
[17:01:25] <Sp4rKy> and with --syslog=spam ?
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[17:02:04] <briceb> Sp4rKy: nope
[17:02:22] <Sp4rKy> :)
[17:02:38] <briceb> Sp4rKy: but I want my logs to go to mail.log
[17:02:45] <briceb> I will try your solution anyway :)
[17:03:11] <Sp4rKy> oh
[17:03:16] <Sp4rKy> don't understand that
[17:09:23] <[miles]> guys, does postfix have SPF support by default?
[17:11:01] <hparker> [miles]: Kinda, use a policy daemon
[17:11:14] <[miles]> hi hparker
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[17:11:26] <[miles]> hparker: ok, I'll hit the docs for it
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[17:15:03] * cpm supports hparker by default
[17:15:49] <hparker> Whee! Thanks cpm
[17:15:58] * hparker runs for prez!
[17:17:06] <nachox> guys, i mistakenly deleted postfix' logs and now it wont log anything even if i restart the service, is there any way to fix that?
[17:17:28] <hparker> Restart your logger
[17:17:49] * cpm restarts hparker
[17:17:59] * hparker crashes
[17:19:03] <xpoint> i hate spammers
[17:19:51] <xpoint> and some where brokken sender login maps, or sender access that allow to much just the recipient is postmaster
[17:20:14] <nachox> silly me, i forgot it logged through syslog and syslog was writing to the oldfiles which still had references
[17:24:38] * rob0 votes for hparker, crashed or not
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[17:39:50] <carcosa> Hi, I'm running postfix, I'm receiving the error "550-Mailbox unknown ... 550 5.1.1 User unknown"
[17:40:27] <carcosa> I understand that there are a number of things that can cause this... I've set up the user's mailbox through cyradm but it doesn't seem like postfix is finding it
[17:45:11] <briceb> Sp4rKy: spamd is not restarting with --syslog=spam
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[17:48:58] <briceb> cpm: nothing is going to spamd.* /var/log/mail.spam :x
[17:49:39] <briceb> what is strange for me is everything was working perfectly before my upgrade from sarge to etch
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[17:53:13] <cpm> did you send syslogd a -HUP ?
[17:53:20] <cpm> to restart it?
[17:53:35] <cpm> force it to reread it's conf file?
[17:54:05] <cpm> does /var/log/mail.spam exist?
[17:54:10] <cpm> can syslogd write to that file
[17:54:11] <cpm> ?
[17:54:20] * hparker writes to cpm
[17:54:43] <cpm> just don't 'touch' me!
[17:55:06] * rob0 touches cpm !! Ha !!!
[17:55:09] <hparker> lol
[17:55:22] <cpm> Iiieeee!
[17:55:33] <rob0> rm cpm
[17:55:33] <carcosa> are there any good guides to troubleshooting postfix/cyrus installs
[17:55:57] <carcosa> I am about to remove this and run sendmail, we won't have more than 10 users
[17:56:03] <rob0> carcosa, Postfix has to know how to find Cyrus' list of valid users.
[17:56:08] * hparker has never used cyrus
[17:56:19] <carcosa> robo how do I tell it that
[17:56:23] * cpm isn't cool enough to run cyrus
[17:56:30] <briceb> cpm: I use /etc/init.d/sysklogd restart to restart it, is it ok ?
[17:56:38] * rob0 has never used Cyrus either
[17:56:39] <cpm> briceb, go for it!
[17:57:00] <briceb> the file /var/log/mail.spam exist and have the same rights as the others mail.* log files
[17:57:13] <cpm> kewl
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[17:57:58] <cpm> devdas !
[17:58:05] <devdas> cpm
[18:00:01] <briceb> same result :x
[18:00:37] <briceb> everything is catched in /var/log/messages but not in /var/log/mail.log
[18:01:02] <briceb> I use the facility "mail"
[18:01:18] <briceb> that should be working pretty well now :p
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[18:08:40] <briceb> cpm: please... help :p
[18:11:54] <briceb> the only thing I got in mail.log
[18:12:05] <briceb> is when I restart spamassassin
[18:12:19] <briceb> Apr 18 18:11:14 sarah spamd[3155]: logger: removing stderr method
[18:12:39] <briceb> after that, nothing, everything is going to /var/log/messages only
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[19:04:46] <fignewton> I'd like to be able to pass a message to an MTA (via SMTP) for /immediate/ delivery. No queing. The MTA shouldn't return a response to the DATA->. sequence until the result of the relay is known.
[19:05:07] <fignewton> Is this possible with postfix or does anyone have suggestions for a system which could handle it?
[19:05:48] <confound> I can't think of any way to do it
[19:05:59] <confound> (with postfix)
[19:06:18] <fignewton> I could do it with exim or ssmtp, but only via the /usr/bin/sendmail interface
[19:06:24] <confound> which isn't very useful
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[19:06:39] <nachox> what would cause an error message like "cannot load Certificate Authority data" i know the certificate is where i told postfix it is, and i cannot see any logs, even when setting smtpd_tls_loglevel to 2
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[19:08:25] <nachox> my mail clinets return TLS not available due to local problem
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[19:11:52] <fignewton> confound: can you think of a reason why this feature might be a bad idea?
[19:12:36] <confound> I think it's unlikely to happen, whether or not it's a bad idea, because of postfix's architecture
[19:12:59] <confound> everything goes through qmgr
[19:13:37] <confound> it would require a whole lot of changes
[19:13:38] <fignewton> I was mostly asking on a theoretical level. I might still try to figure out a way to do it (even if it's not with postfix), but I'm wondering if it's something that would be considered Evil(tm)
[19:14:38] <confound> oh, I don't think it's evil
[19:15:55] <fignewton> it would be kind of neat. I would let us turn some of our async bounce processing into simple sync error handling.
[19:16:33] <fignewton> with a pretty severe performance penalty, but oh well.
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[19:30:23] <rob0> fignewton: The built-in way to prevent those bounces are the recipient maps for the various address classes, described in ADDRESS_CLASS_README.html .
[19:31:56] <rob0> Sounds like reject_unverified_recipient might work for you, see ADDRESS_VERIFICATION_README.html .
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[19:34:18] <dakoo> hey guys i'm running amavisd and it quarantined some emails with attachmnets, so the mime files are in there base64 encrypted, how do i send this email to my user from the command line where the recipient will get the body as body and attachment as attachmnet and not the attachment in the body as text
[19:36:41] <fignewton> rob0: I really just need a message to be delivered immediately. I've implemented my own queue system and I don't need or want the MTA to do its own.
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[19:55:53] <StarOfDeath> Hello, does postfix-2.3.8 have the VDA patch ?
[19:56:43] <shasta> VDA patch was never shipped with postfix
[19:56:50] <StarOfDeath> I had search here http://web.onda.com.br/nadal/postfix/VDA/
[19:57:04] <StarOfDeath> but I did not find the vda patch for postfix 2.3.8
[19:57:20] <shasta> http://vda.sourceforge.net/
[19:57:40] <shasta> there's one for 2.3.7 and 2.4.0
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[19:58:50] <StarOfDeath> will 2.3.7 or 2.4.0 work with for postfix-2.3.8 ?
[19:59:17] <shasta> try (-;
[20:00:23] <StarOfDeath> Thank you Shasta
[20:00:27] <StarOfDeath> I will try
[20:00:45] <StarOfDeath> I am going to try
[20:00:51] <shasta> (try 2.3.7 patch first)
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[20:13:37] <flami> HI anyone have some experience with Razor, pyzor, DCC ? Is it worth it ?
[20:17:05] <flami> ... and I forgot FuzzyOCR ? :P
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[20:20:25] <StarOfDeath> Do you have any tutorial that teach how can I apply VDA on postfix-2.3.8 using debian?
[20:25:29] <hparker> flami: I use them all, though I'm running 2.x of FuzzyOCR being the slacker I am.. Spamassassin just uses them
[20:26:40] <flami> K
[20:26:52] <flami> well then they do sound usefull
[20:26:59] <hparker> yup
[20:29:15] <flami> hehe I just read with fuzzypcr ... use the devel version the stable one is too old etc  you should consider updating ;) ( they even write it fat )
[20:29:37] <hparker> Yup
[20:29:48] <rob0> My spam has almost completely stopped. I used to see 1-2 pump-n-dump image spams a day, but now it's less than that per WEEK. Just using SMTP-time stuff, no content filtering.
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[20:30:04] <hparker> But, with the minimal ammount of spam coming though, it hasn't been a big priority
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[20:31:14] <flami> nice ,
[20:31:44] <flami> yes I use my antispam as smtp proxy too
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[20:42:06] <dazjorz> Hi
[20:42:21] <dazjorz> I have Postfix set up on my server now, for virtual hosting
[20:43:14] <dazjorz> er, virtual mailserver and users
[20:43:50] <dazjorz> in MySQL, I added a dazjorz.com domain and an alias from dazjorz at dazjorz dot com to dazjorz at dazjorz dot com (which, I read, would mean that this is the endpoint for dazjorz at dazjorz dot com mail and from this moment on it'll read mailusers)
[20:44:23] <dazjorz> then in users, I have a row with id dazjorz at dazjorz dot com and name dazjorz, home /var/spool/mail/virtual, maildir "dazjorz/" and enabled
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[20:45:16] <dazjorz> however, when I send an e-mail to the mailserver, I see this line appearing in the logs:
[20:45:47] <kokoko1> how you people diverting spam to virtual user .spam directory?
[20:45:56] <kokoko1> I am trying with procmail in vain
[20:45:57] <dazjorz> Apr 18 20:38:22 server postfix/virtual[29940]: 82B88191A33: to=<dazjorz at dazjorz dot com>, relay=virtual, delay=0.6, delays=0.24/0.17/0/0.19, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (unknown user: "dazjorz at dazjorz dot com")
[20:46:10] <devdas> kokoko1: maildrop
[20:46:25] <kokoko1> amavid-new has been configured to tag the header of email
[20:46:27] <dazjorz> I don't understand why it says status=bounced (unknown user), it's in the database so it should know
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[20:47:01] <devdas> dazjorz: check your virtual_mailbox_maps query using postmap -q dazjorz at dazjorz dot com mysql:/etc/postfix/ ...
[20:47:44] <kokoko1> devdas, procmail can't work with virtaul users?
[20:47:57] <mordaunt> after i do this proxy_read_maps = proxy:mysql:/usr/local/etc/postfix/sql/virtual_mailbox_domains.cf
[20:48:03] <mordaunt> do i always have to refer to it like this?
[20:48:05] <mordaunt> proxy_read_maps = proxy:mysql:/usr/local/etc/postfix/sql/virtual_mailbox_domains.cf
[20:48:09] <mordaunt> erm...
[20:48:22] <mordaunt> virtual_mailbox_domains = proxy:mysql:/usr/local/etc/postfix/sql/virtual_mailbox_domains.cf
[20:48:39] <mordaunt> or can i just do virtual_mailbox_domains = proxy:/usr/local/etc/postfix/sql/virtual_mailbox_domains.cf
[20:49:54] <devdas> kokoko1: no
[20:50:12] <devdas> mordaunt: you need to specify the map type
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[20:52:55] <kokoko1> devdas, so you thinks maildrop is the suitable MDA for diverting spam to v.users spam folder.. imean any other way
[20:53:04] * kokoko1 kinda reluctant to use maildrop
[20:53:11] * cpm hugs maildrop
[20:54:15] <kokoko1> cpm, okay tell ya, maildrop easy to integarted with postfix
[20:54:39] <kokoko1> ?
[20:57:54] <cpm> not too bad.
[20:58:03] <cpm> define a maildrop transport
[20:58:34] <devdas> !maildrop
[20:58:36] <knoba> devdas: 'maildrop' : a delivery agent similar to 'procmail' which also works for virtual accounts. It's part of the "courier" mail server. See: http://www.flounder.net/~mrsam/maildrop/
[20:58:36] <cpm> http://www.postfix.org/MAILDROP_README.html
[20:58:46] <cpm> doh!
[20:59:35] <kokoko1> thanks cpm
[20:59:49] <kokoko1> Let me first convince my boss
[21:00:08] <kokoko1> he is not willing to use it "We are not ready for maildrop" that what he said
[21:00:29] <kokoko1> duno why we are not ready , and he wants me divert all spams to .spam folder with procmail :(
[21:00:34] * kokoko1 don't want to cry
[21:00:50] <cpm> procmail is fine for local users
[21:01:28] <kokoko1> yeah we don't have local users
[21:01:34] <kokoko1> all fuckin virtual
[21:01:44] <cpm> then you can't use procmail
[21:01:49] <cpm> procmail is a local mda
[21:02:00] <cpm> virtual is the *right* way
[21:02:09] <cpm> what imap server are you using?
[21:02:42] <kokoko1> cpm, dovecot
[21:02:49] <cpm> then you want dovecot sieve
[21:03:00] <kokoko1> sieve ?
[21:03:01] <cpm> doesn't make sense to use couriers maildrop with dovecot
[21:03:05] <cpm> yup
[21:03:31] <kokoko1> hmm right
[21:03:47] <kokoko1> let me peak into sieve before updating boss, thanks for teling me about sieve
[21:05:08] <cpm> http://wiki.dovecot.org/LDA/Sieve
[21:05:22] <kokoko1> thanks :)
[21:05:36] <cpm> you can still use maildrop w/dovecot, but sieve is lighter weight, and a lot faster.
[21:06:43] <kokoko1> cool
[21:07:07] <kokoko1> i am updating boss cant wait for, i am already tired of stricking my head with the wall "procmail"
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[21:13:20] <kokoko1> cpm, appreciated
[21:15:03] <devdas> !cheatsheet
[21:15:04] <knoba> devdas: 'cheatsheet' : http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt : A HOWTO for pre-DATA spam control.
[21:17:36] <dazjorz> back
[21:18:00] <dazjorz> [20:47] <devdas> dazjorz: check your virtual_mailbox_maps query using postmap -q dazjorz at dazjorz dot com mysql:/etc/postfix/ ...
[21:18:21] <dazjorz> what's in the place of '...' and is mysql:/etc/postfix/ done or should I change that?
[21:18:50] <devdas> dazjorz: the ... is supposed to be the full path to yuor map file
[21:18:55] <dazjorz> map file?
[21:19:05] <devdas> the virtual_mailbox_maps stuff
[21:19:34] * dazjorz wonders
[21:19:42] <dazjorz> mysql_mailbox ?
[21:21:12] <devdas> yes
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[21:26:21] <dazjorz> devdas: gives no output
[21:27:16] <devdas> dazjorz: it should return your virtual mailfox directory
[21:29:45] <dazjorz> eh
[21:29:46] <dazjorz> odd
[21:29:49] <dazjorz> it doesn't return anything
[21:30:08] <dazjorz> postmap -q dazjorz@localhost mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_mailbox.cf # returns "dazjorz/"
[21:30:58] <dazjorz> postmap -q root@localhost mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql_mailbox.cf # returns nothing
[21:31:06] <dazjorz> seems like it only returns something for dazjorz@localhost
[21:31:12] <devdas> what about dazjorz at dazjorz dot com ?
[21:31:27] <devdas> It needs to return the correct dir for that
[21:31:28] <dazjorz> nothing
[21:31:49] <devdas> fix your map so that that query works correctly
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[21:40:17] <voidy> hey guys.  I have to do some maintenance on a maildrop script which is used for autoresponders.  I didn't write it, and i'm really really confused having never written a maildrop script before.  Can anyone point me a comprehensive tutorial or anything?
[21:41:27] <dazjorz> devdas: I don't see why it doesn't work correctly
[21:42:58] <dazjorz> devdas: wait... mailusers
[21:43:04] <dazjorz> id = dazjorz@localhost -_____-
[21:43:18] <dazjorz> for gods sake
[21:43:36] <dazjorz> okay, dazjorz at dazjorz dot com maps to dazjorz/ now
[21:45:04] <jpablo> hey people, I have two servers running postfix, one checks spams and then forwards to the next that diliveries it to the mailbox, is there anyway for the first server to check in the second to see if the user exists before doing anything?
[21:45:38] <devdas> !reject_unverified_recipient
[21:45:39] <knoba> devdas: 'reject_unverified_recipient' : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: A sender or recipient address is verified by probing the nearest MTA for that address, without actually delivering mail. Probe messages are like normal mail, except that they are never delivered, deferred or bounced; probe messages are discarded.
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[21:46:27] <jpablo> devdas: great, thanks :)
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[21:50:13] <flami> should I take DCC daemon ? does it speed things up ? I got a gigabyte ram
[21:52:26] <xpoint> flami, and ?
[21:52:52] <flami> so Itll be fater or is the difference sOOoOO tiny that its not worth it ;)
[21:53:06] <flami> fsater
[21:53:20] <flami> beep .. faster
[21:53:38] <xpoint> dcc is cpu hungry to my knowlegde, got tired of it and setup pyzord as replacement for dcc
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[21:55:22] <jpablo> devdas: is there anyway to make that reject_unverified_recipient to reject the mail in the connecion, it is bouncing it later to the from address.
[21:55:34] <flami> ok
[21:56:02] <devdas> put the reject_unverified_recipient just after reject_unauth_destination
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[21:56:53] <xpoint> unverify got the body ?
[21:56:58] <mordaunt> putting just reject in a restriction class
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[21:57:10] <mordaunt> would reject all email that matches that class right?
[21:57:28] <devdas> yes
[21:57:39] <xpoint> reject_unverified_recipient still give sender a temp fail so it try again when the verify is ready
[21:57:43] <mordaunt> k so for some reason postfix isn't seeing my restriction classes =D
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[22:18:25] <Mc_Fly> I currently have a postfix server running. It is hosting a few virtual accounts. But now I need to host some virtual accounts with shared domains. How do I do that?
[22:20:40] <jpablo> devdas: smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, check_client_access hash:/etc/postfix/pop-before-smtp, check_sender_access hash:/etc/postfix/siteoverride, reject_unauth_destination, reject_unknown_recipient_domain, reject_unverified_recipient, warn_if_reject, reject_rbl_client bl.spamcop.net, reject_rbl_client sbl.spamhaus.org, reject_rbl_client opm.blitzed.org
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[22:21:13] <jpablo> devdas: that's my config, it still bounces to the from address on Recipient address rejected.
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[22:36:12] <Mc_Fly> I need mails to admin@somedomaine and admin@someotherdomaine to go to the same virtual user account. How can I do this?
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[22:50:39] <flami> make an alias map
[22:51:15] <Mc_Fly> flami: how?
[22:51:38] <flami> http://www.postfix.org/rewrite.html#virtual
[22:51:53] <flami> taht should be it :P Remember , its a great documentation
[22:53:40] <flami> http://www.postfix.org/virtual.5.html
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[22:55:44] <Mc_Fly> flami: ok thanks m8
[22:55:53] <flami> np
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[23:09:09] <voidy> hey guys, can anyone tell me of any tutorials/references for maildrop scripts?
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[23:10:44] <voidy> goddamn, i finally found the man page for maildropfilter
[23:13:00] <voidy> i'd been googling for all the wrong terms..
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[23:37:10] <voidy> hey guys. I was wondering if someone who knows about maildrop filters could help me with this autoresponder code ... It's wrapped up in a load of python, but i'm not including that.
[23:37:11] <voidy> http://rafb.net/p/5cnMpX22.html
[23:37:34] <voidy> basically.. i need to alter it so that it responds to the reply-to: address rather than the from...
[23:37:57] <voidy> i can get it doing that, but it only goes to the reply-to, and not the from
[23:38:24] <voidy> i'm really confused about the general structure.  I just got given the code at work, and told i could change it for a customer..
[23:38:47] <voidy> i don't know if it makes more sense to someone who knows about maildrop filters..
[23:39:33] <voidy> i tried this...  http://rafb.net/p/Z4h21M95.html
[23:39:38] <voidy> it's a totally random attempt...
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[23:50:13] <wad> I have a file /etc/procmailrc in place. What happens if I also have one in a user's home directory? Will they work together happily, do you think?
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[23:55:59] <bdilley> anyone know what i wouldn't be able to connect to courier-imap via remote machines... but i can from localhost?
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