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[00:10:42] <xpoint> jpablo, make sure postfix knows local users
[00:11:38] <xpoint> need more info to say how to here atlest,
[00:12:20] <xpoint> postfix might say more exacly why it do not reject
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[00:15:31] <errr> anyone know how to make postfix not add 2 newlines when I send mail via php.. I have this script that works perfect on our sendmail box but when we run the same thing on the postfix system its adding extra \n's in the headers and breaking the mail
[00:21:11] <efaistos> I dont see how exactly manaage everythin' ... with a local domain and with unix user everythin' work fine but when I'm trying to put some virtual_domains with pgsql it's not :'(
[00:21:14] <efaistos> any idea ?
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[01:08:32] <Zand3r> Hi. I am having trouble with cot
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[01:10:48] <Zand3r> Sorry... I am having trouble with content filters. I have integratd amavisd-new for testing purposes (although it does not look like that will be my final content filter). My problem is that both incoming and outgoing email seems to pass through the content filter. Presumably because the external and internal server is the same smtp process running on port 25. Is there a way to have only incomin gmail pass through the conte
[01:10:48] <Zand3r> nt filter other than creating a second smtp server listeningon a different port or is the correct approach to configure a seperate smtp process on a different port ?
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[01:12:38] * hparker uses submission to get around it
[01:15:29] <Zand3r> hparker: Thanks, so that's similar / equivalent to my speratesmtp process ona different port. I wonder if that is the standard / expected method.
[01:16:02] <hparker> afaik, it's the norm... Uses user/pass on port 587
[01:19:46] <Zand3r> hparker: Thanks. I think i'll go down the same route.
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[01:20:53] <Zand3r> My next challenge is to find an alternative to amavisd-new that will allow spamassassin to use per-userbayes. I don't suppose you know if content filters are exposed to all recipients (i.e. aliases have been traversed, etc.)  so per-user bayes is possible albait not with amavis?
[01:21:29] <hparker> Nope.. The only one's I know of are based on amavisd-new
[01:21:38] <hparker> And bayes will do per-user
[01:21:48] <hparker> Er... s/bayes/amavisd-new
[01:21:56] <hparker> dspam might
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[01:44:31] <Zand3r> Thanks hparker - I know spamassassin will run bayes per user so perhaps a shell script as a content filter will suffice - I'd relaly like to find a tried and tested solution though.
[01:44:37] <Zand3r> Thanks for the guidance - much appreciated
[01:54:05] <Zand3r> hparker: Presumably you added a "permit_mynetworks = yes" to the master.cf file under "submission" so that authentication isn;t required from senders on the local machine ?
[01:54:45] <hparker> Nope, mine are all submission as my server is outside of my LAN
[01:55:01] <hparker> That, and I do hosting as well
[01:58:30] <Zand3r> ok - sorry - I must have misunderstood you earlier. No matter, I know what i'm doingnow (i think)
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[02:37:33] <hachiya> man
[02:37:45] <hachiya> i got postfix working, but now i'm trying to figure out what to use to handle virtual accounts
[02:37:58] * hparker likes postfixadmin
[02:37:59] <hachiya> i see there is vmailadmin and postfixadmin
[02:38:03] <hachiya> hparker, really?
[02:38:07] <rob0> !virtual
[02:38:07] <knoba> rob0: 'virtual' : a way to configure additional domains and user accounts (that do not need to exist in your /etc/passwd). See: http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html
[02:38:15] <hparker> Evening rob0
[02:38:16] <hachiya> i'm trying that out at the moment actually
[02:38:40] <hachiya> i started setting up the database for vmailadmin way back and got stuck for some reason
[02:38:59] <hachiya> so now i see that the web installation for postfix admin works, but i don't have the database it uses working with postfix itself yet
[02:39:43] <hachiya> do people generally prefer postfixadmin over vmailadmin?
[02:40:07] <rob0> hparker: howdy
[02:40:16] <hparker> No idea, i never looked at vmailadmin
[02:42:32] <hachiya> ok
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[05:35:16] <mjun007> excuse me ,can I use the postfix just like a client
[05:36:03] <mjun007> I want to use postfix to login on the 126 mailserver
[05:37:25] <mjun007> Using postfix like outlook to receive/send the email
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[05:56:15] <grte> Does anyone know what this error might mean?  TLS is required, but our TLS engine is unavailable
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[06:12:48] <Krooks> hello
[06:14:52] <Krooks> My domain is cmsz.com. I have a mail gateway is filters and send the mails to the mail server. Now I want to add another domain tpz.edu.my . What do I do. tpz.edu.my users are also present users of cmsz.com .
[06:15:10] <Krooks> My domain is cmsz.com. I have a mail gateway that filters and send the mails to the mail server. Now I want to add another domain tpz.edu.my . What do I do. tpz.edu.my users are also present users of cmsz.com .
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[07:06:54] <lkthomas> haha
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[07:12:12] <f3ew> Krooks just add the domain to mydestination
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[07:48:27] <Krooks> f3ew : Where ? In the mail filter server or in the mail server >?
[08:04:35] <f3ew> in the server
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[08:12:29] <balou__> hi all !
[08:13:21] <balou__> i m looking to authenticate to a remote SMTP server using the SASL authentication
[08:13:33] <f3ew> !client
[08:13:34] <knoba> f3ew: Error: "client" is not a valid command.
[08:13:46] <f3ew> http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html#client_sasl
[08:13:59] <balou__> I saw on some forums that to set this login / pass according to the from field only appeared in postfix 2.3
[08:14:17] <balou__> but i m using postfix 2.1 on a mac ...
[08:14:30] <balou__> and this server is already on production so i can t upgrade it easily
[08:15:28] <balou__> thx f3ew i remember u from last time you gave me that good hint for authentication
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[08:16:28] <balou__> is there a way to set a similar function for postfix 2.1 ? via a "filter" applied before sending out the mail ?
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[08:29:45] <k1ckn1ck> hi, i am currently using postfix in a virtual domain role for users. I am looking for a safer way of emailing all the users at once than using an alias in mysql. Someone yesterday mentioned a script that would get email list on the fly. Where could i find info about this.
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[08:32:06] <f3ew> balou__ that works in 2.1
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[08:32:32] <f3ew> k1ckn1ck, it should be trivial to write one
[08:38:09] <k1ckn1ck> would be mission impossible for me to right one
[08:39:59] <k1ckn1ck> is there anything i could read up on, to maybe have an idea where to even start
[08:40:19] <k1ckn1ck> i'm guessing the script would need to retrieve the users from mysql
[08:41:09] <k1ckn1ck> and save them to a file
[08:48:52] <Gokee2> Once there is would be easy to write a script to send the email
[08:48:57] <Gokee2> it*
[08:49:51] <k1ckn1ck> would it ?
[08:50:03] <k1ckn1ck> but surely it would need to be one script
[08:50:24] <k1ckn1ck> so when the alias is emailed, it retrieves a list of all users then sends the email
[08:50:46] <Gokee2> Right
[08:50:49] <k1ckn1ck> or would it be two parts
[08:51:04] <k1ckn1ck> so u have a script that downloads a copy of all users say once a day
[08:51:27] <k1ckn1ck> then the alias just attachs to a script that sends the email to everyone in the file
[08:51:57] <Gokee2> I use to send email from a script that read a csv file and email file, I was going to set it up to sent out a email to the list when it receved a email from me...  I ended up setting up mailman instead.
[08:52:08] <Gokee2> used*
[08:52:17] <k1ckn1ck> right
[08:52:37] <k1ckn1ck> well my issue is, basically i want all users to be able to send emails via the alias
[08:53:41] <Gokee2> So a user emails the address then it gets emailed out as the alias?  Mailman can do that
[08:55:22] <k1ckn1ck> how safe is it against spam getting hold of the email address
[08:55:36] <k1ckn1ck> or could it be set up so only internal domain users can email to it
[08:56:01] <f3ew> !restriction_class
[08:56:01] <knoba> f3ew: 'restriction_class' : http://www.postfix.org/RESTRICTION_CLASS_README.html
[08:56:35] <k1ckn1ck> is that aimed at me ?
[08:56:38] <Gokee2> Not really sure seeing I just set it up the other day, but I think you can set it up to only use internal....
[08:58:46] <Gokee2> k1ckn1ck, Ya, that link tells you how to make your alias only local
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[09:03:01] <k1ckn1ck> ok that does look good, but would i not have to update the alias/forwarding and add enw email addresses everytime a enw user is added
[09:03:08] <k1ckn1ck> new*
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[10:34:07] <yann_> i am setting up a system with ldap+postfix on Gentoo
[10:34:41] <yann_> what do you suggest as IMAP server? Courier or Cyrus?
[10:35:51] <yann_> previously i did set up a system with Cyrus, but with Gentoo, I found Cyrus config a bit confusing
[10:36:27] <Supaplex> I like courier.
[10:36:41] <sysmonk> i like cyrus
[10:36:42] <sysmonk> ;)
[10:36:45] <Supaplex> I'm hitting the sack. good luck whatever you use :)
[10:37:03] <yann_> I am also testing Courier, but I have some errors delivering mails
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[10:37:10] <RiDeMaN> Hi
[10:37:34] <RiDeMaN> i've a problem with my postfix configuration
[10:37:44] <RiDeMaN> Somebody to hel me?
[10:37:48] <RiDeMaN> help
[10:38:30] <yann_> RiDeMaN, don't ask to ask, just ask ;)
[10:38:36] <RiDeMaN> ok
[10:38:47] <RiDeMaN> sorry for my english im french
[10:38:54] <yann_> me too ;)
[10:39:02] <RiDeMaN> so on parle Fr alors
[10:39:06] <RiDeMaN> .D
[10:39:22] <RiDeMaN> ok?
[10:39:46] <RiDeMaN> yann_?
[10:40:22] <yann_> better in pm
[10:40:37] <RiDeMaN> ok
[10:40:38] <yann_> if you want French
[10:40:45] <RiDeMaN> ok
[10:42:31] <Krooks> how to delete all the words after the first word of a line ?
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[11:54:21] <RiDeMaN> Krooks like in word you can delete all words with the delete touch
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[12:37:38] <mb__> hey, can some one tell me, how i can say postfix not to send emails to domain XXX?
[12:38:39] <[miles]> morning guys
[12:38:53] <mb__> or how can i say him to send mails only to domain XXX
[12:38:54] <[miles]> well, afternoon even
[12:39:10] <[miles]> mb__: guess you could use some form of white and black listing no?
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[12:39:26] <mb__> hmm maybe, how can i do that?
[12:40:22] <[miles]> http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_POLICY_README.html
[12:40:25] <[miles]> should be info there I think
[12:40:39] <[miles]> sorry, I have to read some documenation on something
[12:40:40] <[miles]> bbl
[12:42:36] <f3ew> check_recipient_access
[12:43:01] <mb__> but isnt that for incomming mails?
[12:43:05] <[miles]> f3ew: do you know where I can remove sections of a header of an outbound email please?
[12:43:06] <mb__> i need to block outgoing mails
[12:43:35] <f3ew> mb__ all mail which goes out needs to come in
[12:43:49] <f3ew> [miles] header_checks
[12:43:54] <[miles]> f3ew: thanks
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[12:44:09] <mb__> okay f3ew
[12:44:12] * [miles] thinks f3ew is a clever bot ;-)
[12:44:12] <mb__> i currently have set:
[12:44:13] <mb__> smtpd_recipient_restrictions = check_recipient_access hash:/etc/postfix/recipients, reject_unauth_destination
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[12:44:24] <mb__> and in the file is a mail adress with REJECT
[12:44:28] <mb__> but i still can send mails to it
[12:44:33] <stony> hi
[12:45:24] <mb__> isnt it correct f3ew ?
[12:45:38] <f3ew> mb__ you should get a REJECT
[12:46:03] <f3ew> aslternatively, you could use transport_maps and set a transport for that domain
[12:46:08] <f3ew> example.com  error:
[12:46:20] <mb__> hmm well i dont get a reject :/
[12:47:54] <mb__> is it maybe because i use a relay server?
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[13:07:23] <f3ew> hey cpm
[13:07:37] <cpm> morn'n f3ew
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[13:23:51] <OmiKrOn> hi *, how do I reject emails comming from user at domain dot com ?
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[13:31:41] <f3ew> !check_sender_access
[13:31:42] <knoba> f3ew: Error: "check_sender_access" is not a valid command.
[13:31:43] <f3ew> check_sender_access
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[13:42:40] <Roobarb-Work> OmiKrOn: smtpd_sender_restrictions = check_sender_access dbm:/etc/postfix/rejected-senders
[13:50:19] <OmiKrOn> aj i was going for check_client_access
[13:50:40] <OmiKrOn> er.. i mea smtpd_client_restrictions
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[14:33:27] <dump_01> hi ppl
[14:33:46] <dump_01> have a problem with postfix
[14:34:29] <cpm> funny, postfix likes you well enough
[14:35:09] <dump_01> after upgrade from 2.2.8. to 2.4.0 with always_bcc option i got 2 copies per 1 letter to always_bcc adress.
[14:36:05] <dump_01> i have antivirus, postgray and spamassassin in work on server
[14:36:38] <dump_01> where to copypast to show u a configs and logs?
[14:36:49] <dump_01> (sorry for my english)
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[14:49:13] <Blackvel> hi all. I have one question regarding adress sender verification. will it be retried if the other email server (where the email adress has to be verified to be valid) reponses with 450 greylisting active?
[14:49:14] <Blackvel> like this:
[14:49:15] <Blackvel> http://rafb.net/p/b41v8S44.html
[14:50:16] <Blackvel> i expect that it does as soon as the other party retries again to send the msg to me (just because my own verifying replies with 450)
[14:50:50] <Roobarb-Work> 4xx replies suggest a deferal
[14:51:35] <Blackvel> and as soon it retries, the verifcation will be retried, and finally if the other email server let me pass its greylisting, this verification process gets response ok or not ok and this my verifying sends 550 or ok
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[14:55:17] <Blackvel> and so will the sender adressed be verification the next time? :)
[14:55:23] <Blackvel> again..
[14:55:27] <Blackvel> its so funny
[14:55:30] <Blackvel> i am reading all the docs
[14:55:37] <Blackvel> and when i am thru the document
[14:55:44] <Blackvel> most of the time i know as much was before
[14:55:55] <Blackvel> i am reading thru
[14:56:06] <Blackvel> most be my lack of english :)
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[14:59:27] <f3ew> Blackvel yes
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[15:01:54] <Blackvel> hmm
[15:01:57] <Blackvel> greylisting is nice
[15:02:09] <Blackvel> but it suxx when i just want to verify sender's address :)
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[16:25:25] <PlanarPlatypus> Hi guys, I am trying to set up postfix so it will deliver all mail that goes to a particular domain to a single user on the server.  does anyone have any idea how to do this?
[16:26:10] <f3ew> !catchall
[16:26:11] <knoba> f3ew: 'catchall' : sending all emails for non-existing users in domain to a special account. See man 5 virtual for the @domain syntax.
[16:27:01] <PlanarPlatypus> thanks
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[16:37:26] <dakoo> hey guys whats new
[16:38:12] <dakoo> i have some regexp for header_checks and body_checks, if i want to white list someone, which file do i put their address in? sender_access?
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[16:38:43] <Rafa_14> alguem ai fala portugues?
[16:39:08] 
[16:39:21] <[miles]> Rafa_14: te entiendo
[16:39:37] <Rafa_14> tu mi entende?
[16:39:42] <[miles]> si
[16:39:43] <[miles]> claro
[16:39:55] 
[16:40:07] <Rafa_14> tu sabe como eu faso para o comando de voz do navegador funcionar?
[16:40:31] <[miles]> por voz!?
[16:40:40] 
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[16:41:01] <Rafa_14_br> tu sabe
[16:41:04] <[miles]> hombre, ni idea
[16:41:41] <Rafa_14_br> de onde tu teclas?
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[16:42:22] <[miles]> Rafa_14_br: espera... tengo un amigo de Brasil...
[16:43:23] 
[16:43:37] 
[16:44:13] <Rafa_14_br> tude bem vale
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[16:45:54] <[miles]> aka_druid_: it's Rafa_14_br
[16:45:59] <aka_druid_> Rafa_14_br: ?
[16:46:09] <[miles]> yep
[16:46:29] <[miles]> Rafa_14_br: explicar a aka_druid_ que quieres saber
[16:47:18] <Rafa_14_br> eu quero saber o que tenho que fazer para o comando de voz do meu navegador funcionar
[16:47:37] <aka_druid_> o que isso tem a ver com postfix?
[16:48:21] 
[16:48:54] <aka_druid_> o que isso tem a ver com postfix?
[16:49:31] <Rafa_14_br> ele tem um recurso que reconhece a voz e executa o que vc pede se tiver na lista de comandos de voz
[16:49:42] <Rafa_14_br> o navegador opera?
[16:49:49] <Rafa_14_br> o navegador opera
[16:49:58] <aka_druid_> mas o q isso tem a ver com o postfix, que eh um servidor de email?
[16:50:05] <[miles]> Rafa_14_br: hombre, por que te preguntas eso en #postfix?
[16:50:24] <aka_druid_> kick him, think its a troll...
[16:50:32] <[miles]> can't no op privs
[16:50:40] <[miles]> lol
[16:50:55] <Rafa_14_br> sei la pencei que essa sala de bate papo era o opera que fazia?
[16:51:03] <Rafa_14_br> sei la pencei que essa sala de bate papo era o opera que fazia
[16:51:33] <Rafa_14_br> porque eu vi no barra de ferramentas bate papo
[16:51:37] <dakoo> in my regexp file can i have lines beginning with # such as comments?
[16:51:49] <[miles]> yes
[16:51:59] <aka_druid_> Rafa_14_br: esse canal nao eh para isso. Pare de atrapalhar aqui.
[16:52:00] <confound> dakoo: man 5 regexp_table
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[16:53:01] <aka_druid_> [miles]: a kid... bah
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[16:54:39] <dakoo> confound: thanx there, thats very helpful
[16:55:01] <porkpie> hey guy's ... I have installed postfix but I did use the configuration option when installing .... how do I set postfix to internet and the mail to root
[16:55:36] <confound> dakoo: most of the table types have that.  it's also on postfix.org, e.g. http://www.postfix.org/regexp_table.5.html
[16:56:41] <dakoo> confound: nice, i normally read http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html and start from there
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[17:19:12] <[mefiX]> hi there
[17:19:22] <dakoo> hello
[17:19:24] <dakoo> how are things
[17:19:42] <[mefiX]> is it possible to set up blacklists checking the "rcpt to" field in postfix with mysql?
[17:20:01] <[mefiX]> i've read smth. about "smtpd_recipient_restrictions"
[17:20:20] <[mefiX]> but it seems that there's no way storing blacklisted email addresses in an mysql db?
[17:23:40] <Blackvel> [mefiX] i only know of straight unix files which have REJECT in each line
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[17:24:08] <[mefiX]> okay then, if no mysql-support ... i woult manage it this way
[17:24:25] <Blackvel> maybe there plugins for it
[17:24:26] <Blackvel> not sure
[17:24:38] <[mefiX]> which flag shall i use then?
[17:24:49] <[mefiX]> smtpd_recipient_restrictions?
[17:25:03] <Blackvel> yes
[17:25:15] <Blackvel> and in it check_sender_access or check_recipient_access
[17:25:20] <[mefiX]> my aim is to have a list looking like this:
[17:25:26] <Blackvel> sender is from and rcpt is the latter
[17:25:31] <[mefiX]> foo at mydomain dot tld reject
[17:25:44] <Blackvel> you can do this
[17:25:52] <Blackvel> as far as i know
[17:26:17] <[mefiX]> check_recipient_access looks promising
[17:26:27] <Blackvel> just check docs for those commands. gives good examples
[17:26:42] <[mefiX]> ok, thanks a lot
[17:26:44] <Blackvel> after you built the file you can use postmap access to build an access.db
[17:27:05] <[mefiX]> where are you guys from?
[17:27:31] <Blackvel> germany :)
[17:27:36] <[mefiX]> hehe ich auch
[17:27:39] <[mefiX]> super
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[17:31:39] <[miles]> spain
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[17:38:06] <Roobarb-Work> [mefiX]: http://www.postfix.org/mysql_table.5.html
[17:42:13] <[mefiX]> means i could simply say "check_recipient_access mysql:/etc/postfix/recipient_checks_mysql.cf"?
[17:44:56] <[mefiX]> but how would my database-layout look like in this case? i would intuitive create a table with 2 columns: alias and method (permit or reject), do you agree with that?
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[17:57:06] <kokoko1> hi all
[17:57:48] <kokoko1> I am trying to get amavid-new working, all i have amavid-new + SA add SPAX-X headers to all email whether its spam or ham
[17:58:18] <kokoko1> i tried to set 'sa_tag_level_deflt = -1000;' but still i don't see any SPAX-X headers
[17:58:31] <kokoko1> also tried to set this to undef but not luck
[18:03:08] <[mefiX]> hmm
[18:03:11] <kokoko1> okay look like its not even passing email to filter with SA :-S
[18:05:07] <[mefiX]> Roobarb-Work: can you help me with the necessary table structure?
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[18:26:39] <rodrickbrown> when emails are relayed through my server the from headers get tagged with user at thesendershostname dot mydomain.com
[18:26:51] <rodrickbrown> how can I prevent postfix from appending the senders hostname
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[18:36:47] <fury_> hello, I have a really simple general question about SMTP protocol, that I can't seem to find the answer to and I wonder if somebody wouldn't mind answering it.  In SMTP, you send \r\n.\r\n to end a message. What if that message contains a . on a signle line - what is the mechanism to tell the mail server the size of the message in advance?
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[18:42:25] <mjoseph> fury_: you don't
[18:42:29] <mjoseph> the . is quoted
[18:43:12] <fury_> what do you mean quoted?
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[18:49:06] <fury_> oh. I found the answer
[18:49:16] <fury_> buried in the RFC I've been reading for about an hour :)
[18:50:20] <rodrickbrown> why do my emails go out as senderhostname.mydomain.com
[18:50:23] <rodrickbrown> and not just mydomain.com
[18:51:29] <devdas> !myorigin
[18:51:29] <knoba> devdas: 'myorigin' : a configuration parameter in the main.cf: The default domain name that locally-posted mail appears to come from, and that locally posted mail is delivered to. The default $myhostname, which is fine for small sites. If you run a domain with multiple machines, you should (1) change this to $mydomain and (2) set up a domain-wide alias database that aliases each user to user at that dot users.mailhost.
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[18:53:00] <rodrickbrown> devdas I dont think that's my problem
[18:53:08] <rodrickbrown> mails sent from the local machine are fine
[18:53:21] <rodrickbrown> just mail that's relayed through it from other hosts are getting tagged as senddom.mydom.com
[18:53:22] <devdas> then it's your MUA
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[18:53:52] <rodrickbrown> it worked before  I upgraded postfix
[18:54:07] <devdas> what else changed?
[18:54:32] <rodrickbrown> nothing that I can think off everythign works but all new mails now appear from the senders machine
[18:54:35] <rodrickbrown> and  not my domain
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[18:58:41] <junix-br> good afternoon
[18:59:23] <_Gandalf_> Hi guys, I have a question about backup MX (server), is it possible to make the backup server accept mails to whatever at maindomain dot com and then bounce/accept mails once the primary MX is up?
[18:59:36] <devdas> !backup
[18:59:36] <knoba> devdas: Error: "backup" is not a valid command.
[18:59:43] <devdas> !standard
[18:59:44] <knoba> devdas: 'standard' : Your question is probably answered in http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html
[18:59:52] <devdas> look for the backup MX guide there
[18:59:56] <_Gandalf_> I need this because ATM (at the current setup) it is impossible for me to sync both servers
[19:00:59] <_Gandalf_> devdas, I've been there, but before wasting hours testing I just want to know if it's possible first that's why I asked :)
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[19:01:35] <devdas> yes
[19:01:37] <_Gandalf_> devdas, all guides I've seen, I must define/create a mailbox for each backup user, I can't do that
[19:01:41] <_Gandalf_> devdas, ok thx
[19:01:58] <devdas> relay_recipient_maps =
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[19:02:42] <kokoko1> hi any idea why amavid-new tagging email as SPAM when email is not even a score
[19:02:45] <kokoko1> X-Spam-Score: 0
[19:02:46] <kokoko1> X-Spam-Level:
[19:02:46] <kokoko1> X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-1000 required=5 tests=[none]
[19:03:03] <kokoko1> Subject: **SPAM**  :(
[19:03:19] <kokoko1> any help will be greatly apprecaitegd
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[19:05:13] <Euforia_> what does amavisd.conf say?
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[19:07:35] <rodrickbrown> what rule could I use to rewrite user at thierserver dot mydomain.com to user at mydomain dot com
[19:08:46] <kokoko1> Euforia_, i have set $sa_tag_level_deflt = -1000
[19:09:03] <kokoko1> and $sa_tag2_level_deflt = 5.0
[19:10:06] <kokoko1> All i want to add SPAM-X headers to email if spam or ham but see its behaving differently with -1000 its adding **SPAM** to email this have score =0
[19:11:40] <kokoko1> I wonders if changing to $sa_tag_level_deflt  = -9999 will make any difference?
[19:13:11] <rodrickbrown> how can I validate if my MUA is setting my headers or not?
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[19:17:53] <zaikxtox> hello. i have installed postfix + mysql + courier, a setup that has a lot of docs and is well tested. it works fine for local delivery but when a user try to send mail to a forgein mail server (yahoo.com for example) it says "Recipient address rejected: Access denied;"
[19:18:14] <_Gandalf_> devdas, I have relay_domains (on the backup server) yet I keep getting "Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table" whenever I try to send the backup server a mail
[19:18:20] <junix-br> Invalid argument (port 25)
[19:18:22] <zaikxtox> i wanna authenticated users to relay to any host they want
[19:18:28] <junix-br> somebody can help me/
[19:18:29] <junix-br> ?
[19:18:35] <junix-br> http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/4174
[19:19:02] <devdas> virtual != relay
[19:19:59] <_Gandalf_> devdas, I know that's why I don't get it, I have in main.cf something like this "relay_domains = example.com" then Using telnet I try rcpt to:mail at example dot com I get the error above
[19:20:23] <_Gandalf_> what am I doing wrong ?
[19:20:24] <junix-br> when the server do the transport I have Invalid argument (port 25) error
[19:21:01] <_Gandalf_> devdas, http://rafb.net/p/HZRYmT96.html <- main.cf
[19:21:11] <devdas> because you have that domain listed in virtual_mailbox_domains
[19:21:18] <_Gandalf_> devdas, http://rafb.net/p/PejC8i88.html <- master.cf
[19:21:32] <_Gandalf_> devdas, Oh yeah perhaps
[19:21:55] <_Gandalf_> devdas, it's the mysql statement I have to uncomment something, let me try
[19:24:50] <_Gandalf_> devdas, Thank you, it worked :)
[19:27:12] <_Gandalf_> 4
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[19:31:24] <jpablo> 220 maggie.qualitypost.cc  ESMTP
[19:31:24] <jpablo> HELO HOLA
[19:31:24] <jpablo> 250 maggie.qualitypost.cc
[19:31:24] <jpablo> MAIL FROM: JPABLO at LINUXUANL dot ORG
[19:31:24] <jpablo> 250 Ok
[19:31:24] <jpablo> RCPT TO: JPABLITO at QUALITYPOST dot COM.MX
[19:31:26] <jpablo> 450 <JPABLITO at QUALITYPOST dot COM.MX>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table
[19:31:27] <jpablo> hey people
[19:31:29] <jpablo> how can I make that a 550
[19:31:43] <jpablo> i already have unknown_local_recipient_reject_code = 550
[19:31:52] <devdas> soft_bounce, perhaps?
[19:33:47] <rodrickbrown> is there a way to convert pcre to dbm format?
[19:33:49] <jpablo> devdas: commented that out and still
[19:34:00] <jpablo> devdas: no, it was commented out and set it to no
[19:34:08] <rodrickbrown> I have rewrite rules that were in pcre and now i'm using dbm
[19:34:14] <rodrickbrown> the rewrite rules no  longer work
[19:34:22] <rodrickbrown> how can i fix this ?
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[19:35:48] <jpablo> devdas: i had the same unknown_local_recipient_reject_code option twice in the file, with 450 again :(
[19:35:54] <devdas> ah
[19:37:41] <junix-br> Apr 16 18:29:34 myserver1 postfix2/smtp[32741]: connect to myserver2.mydomain.com.br[200.155.31.75]: Invalid argument (port 25)
[19:37:42] <junix-br> Apr 16 18:29:34 myserver1 postfix2/smtp[32741]: E2DA8282A7E: to=<asaldanha at mydomain dot com.br>, relay=none, delay=28, status=deferred (connect to myserver2.mydomain.com.br[200.xxx.xxx.75]: Invalid argument)
[19:37:55] <junix-br> there are two instances in myserver1
[19:39:17] <junix-br> and the second instance don't send the message to another server
[19:39:22] <junix-br> by transport
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[19:41:10] <junix-br> somebody have seen this?
[19:41:17] <rodrickbrown> is it possible to rewrite /\ at ( dot *)\.com/ @host.com to dbm format?
[19:41:55] <rodrickbrown> I had rules like this in pcre and dont feel like rebuilding postfix to support pcre if these regex rewrite rules can be adopted for dbm
[19:44:01] <devdas> they can't
[19:44:14] <rodrickbrown> so rebuild is the only option :\
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[20:00:11] <plugwash> anyone know what the eqivilent of /usr/libexec/postfix is on a debian postfix installation?
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[20:06:28] <Spads> I'm running postfix 2.3.3, and have address verification configured, but I see no verify daemon running?  Shouldn't the master start it up?
[20:08:30] <devdas> only when it needs to verify something
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[20:10:12] <Spads> hmmm
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[20:31:35] <Blackvel> how can an email server be configured that address verification does not get greylisted?
[20:32:22] <Blackvel> I had seen this multiple days today that when its verifying a remote address, the other server greylists the request so it takes ages to get the address verified/non-verified and let rules pass thru restrictions
[20:32:27] <Blackvel> times
[20:32:32] <Blackvel> multiple times today
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[20:32:58] <Spads> devdas: aha, yeah, helps to actually turn on verification.  Duh.  Thanks for kicking me in the right direction.
[20:32:59] <Blackvel> how about adding a rule when the sender is @postfix it does not greylist?
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[20:33:25] <Blackvel> err postmaster@
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[20:45:12] <plugwash__> i've just tried to set up graylisting and now postfix doesn't seem to respond at all
[20:45:24] <plugwash__> (it accepts the connection but doesn't send any banner)
[20:45:30] <plugwash__> any idea what the problem may be?
[20:46:04] <devdas> see your logs
[20:46:05] <confound> look for errors in the logs
[20:47:14] <Blackvel> do you know postgrey?
[20:47:27] <Blackvel> it uses a whitelist for postmaster@ and abuse@ as the recipient list
[20:47:51] <devdas> yes
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[20:48:12] <Blackvel> but when postermaster@myserverwithpostfix sends any verfication email to xxx at xxx dot de domain to check the rcpt adress, it may happen that the other server greylists that process
[20:48:40] <Blackvel> it sometimes takes ages just to verify the address ;)
[20:49:06] <jnsears> hi.  my postfix setup will receive mail properly when it is sent from the local server, but when i send from another email address nothing happens.  any ideas?
[20:49:12] <plugwash__> Apr 17 19:48:23 P10Link postfix/smtpd[9139]: fatal: open database /etc/postfix/s
[20:49:12] <plugwash__> ender_access.db: No such file or directory
[20:49:13] <Blackvel> but hmm.. its no good accepting the sender address postmaster@?
[20:49:26] <plugwash__> but i'm sure the reference i added was to sender_access not sender_access.db
[20:49:42] <Blackvel> plugwash__: do postmap sender_access
[20:50:24] <jnsears> the test at pingability.com says There was a problem while talking with the mail server. Got 'Socket Timeout Exception: Read timed out'
[20:51:55] <plugwash__> btw can anyone reccomend a good introductory book on postfix?
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[21:00:43] <RedShift2> helo
[21:01:11] <RedShift2> so a helo from another server may be 1) an FQDN, 2) an IP address surrounded by brackets [x.y.z.a]
[21:01:12] <RedShift2> right?
[21:02:18] <Blackvel> gotta run. cu
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[21:02:24] <rob0> In actual practice it's highly recommended to use FQDN which resolves to your IP address, but yes, right.
[21:03:25] <RedShift2> rob0: I'm writing a small spamfilter so I need to check if that stuff is right
[21:03:36] <RedShift2> so you wouldn't happen to have a regex to verify those two, right?
[21:03:43] <rob0> I never see any [x.y.z.a] HELOs. It's pretty safe to block all entirely non-alpha HELOs.
[21:04:10] <rob0> Is this going to be a policy service?
[21:04:18] <RedShift2> rob0: yeah I've never seen one in my logs either, but I read it's RFC compliant somewhere
[21:04:36] <devdas> RedShift2: yes
[21:04:45] <devdas> I see those
[21:05:01] <RedShift2> devdas: really?
[21:05:04] <rob0> really? Surely not often?
[21:05:29] <devdas> not often, but often enough
[21:06:02] <jnsears> when i try to telnet into my machine running postfix on port 25 it connects briefly and then drops the connection.  where should i look?
[21:06:05] <RedShift2> is the fqdn regexp hardcoded in postfix?
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[21:09:20] <Eru> Greetings
[21:10:02] <Eru> Is it possible to prevent having postfix create "User unknown" messages at all? I mean not filtering them on delivery but subdue them alltogether
[21:10:31] <rob0> RedShift2: there *is* reject_non_fqdn_helo_hostname, if that's what you mean.
[21:10:53] <RedShift2> rob0: yeah but I'm writing a filter, so the mail doesn't get rejected but only tagged
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[21:14:16] * cpm looks for a reject_rob0 rule
[21:14:40] <rob0> IME reject_non_fqdn_helo_hostname is a very safe way to take out a large amount of zombie spew.
[21:15:35] <RedShift2> rob0: I'm really not going to drop mail from my customers. It's all good if they don't receive spam, but if they miss out on one valid mail I'm blamed the devil himself
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[21:21:27] <pego> hi
[21:21:32] <dakoo> hello
[21:22:14] <pego> i have a little probleme with hotmail and rewriting reply-to. i rewrote all with procmail and formail and on hotmail reply still not modfidied
[21:22:38] <pego> the only data still not medified is Return-path but i dunno how change that
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[21:23:35] <dazjorz> Hi
[21:23:35] <devdas> that's set by the Hotmail servers to be the envelope sender
[21:23:42] <dazjorz> Postfix is constantly writing this to syslog: Apr 17 21:23:15 server postfix/qmgr[16362]: warning: connect to transport amavis: No such file or directory
[21:23:48] <dazjorz> any ideas?
[21:24:11] <devdas> you have an amavis transport called somewhere? FILTER or content_filter usually
[21:24:15] <pego> devdas: what can i do :/
[21:24:20] <devdas> but you haven't defined it in master.cf
[21:24:24] <dazjorz> devdas: Yeah, in master.cf
[21:24:29] <devdas> pego: ignore that?
[21:24:41] <dazjorz> oh
[21:24:42] <dazjorz> and main.cf:content_filter = amavis:[127.0.0.1]:10024
[21:24:47] <dazjorz> isn't amavis listening?
[21:25:17] <devdas> have you defined amavis in master.cf?
[21:25:21] <devdas> or smtp-amavis?
[21:25:23] <cpm> netstat -nuat | grep 10024
[21:25:35] <pego> devdas: i can't do aything ? i can't make hotmail.com reply a diffrent mail ?
[21:25:40] <dazjorz> amavis unix - - - - 2 smtp
[21:25:46] <devdas> pego: set Reply-To
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[21:25:55] <dazjorz> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:10024         0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[21:25:57] <devdas> dazjorz: that looks right
[21:26:05] <devdas> it's not the listening thing
[21:26:08] <dazjorz> same to me, telnet worked too
[21:26:12] <pego> devdas: it don't work
[21:26:14] <devdas> It's the amavis ... entry in master.cf
[21:26:41] <dazjorz> devdas: I'll pastebin the whole amavis entry
[21:26:58] <dazjorz> or do you want me to pastebin the whole file?
[21:27:07] <devdas> nah
[21:27:08] <madclicker> robtex is down :(
[21:27:17] <devdas> do you have leading whitespace or something?
[21:27:24] <cpm> cat master.cf | grep -v '^#' > pastethis
[21:27:27] <dazjorz> before the -o
[21:27:30] <dazjorz> cpm: Okay
[21:27:47] <dazjorz> good idea :)
[21:27:56] <dazjorz> without the comments :)
[21:28:12] <dazjorz> http://paster.dazjorz.com/?p=74
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[21:29:42] <dazjorz> or for plain: http://paster.dazjorz.com/?a=rawpaste&p=74
[21:30:04] <dazjorz> "</div></div></body></html>"
[21:30:05] <dazjorz> what the
[21:30:16] * dazjorz checks out paster.dazjorz.com code
[21:30:45] <dazjorz> ok, fixed.
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[21:32:13] <dazjorz> cpm: so any ideas?
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[21:33:59] <dazjorz> >:(
[21:34:09] <dazjorz> devdas: you..?
[21:34:26] <dazjorz> er
[21:34:27] <dazjorz> crap
[21:34:27] <dazjorz> :o
[21:34:32] <dazjorz> id = dazjorz@localhost in the database
[21:34:35] <dazjorz> not dazjorz at dazjorz dot com
[21:34:37] <dazjorz> but name is still 'dazjorz'
[21:34:48] <dazjorz> what should I use as username to authenticate with?
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[21:47:57] <pego> procmail rewrite mail that i receive but can he rewrite mail that i send ??
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[21:55:22] <RedShift2> would checking if the helo has more than two dots and a valid TLD, be enough to qualify as a FQDN?
[21:57:00] <plugwash__> a name with one dot is a valid FQDN
[21:57:38] <RedShift2> but I would consider mailserver.local as an invalid helo?
[21:58:17] <plugwash__> sure because its not a valid tld
[21:58:33] <RedShift2> ok so check the dot, check the TLD
[21:58:37] <plugwash__> but a name of say just p10link.net is a perfectly valid fqdn
[21:58:41] <RedShift2> ah right
[21:58:45] <RedShift2> I didn't think of that
[21:58:54] <RedShift2> I was thinking of all the badly configured exchange machines
[21:58:55] <RedShift2> :D
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[22:05:49] <pego> anyone know how usep procmail to filter outgoing mail ? like for change the sender ?
[22:11:10] <RedShift2> ok so far I got 1) check for a PTR on client_address, 2) Check if sender domain exists (MX or A record is present), 3) Check for an FQDN helo
[22:11:19] <RedShift2> and 4) check with RBLs
[22:11:24] <RedShift2> anything else I should check for?
[22:12:55] <plugwash__> well a really evil check would be to check that the fqdn in the helo was also the reverse dns name AND didn't look like a generic address given out to lusers
[22:13:12] <plugwash__> but that might be more strict than you would want
[22:13:49] <RedShift2> plugwash__: I serve alot of small/medium sized customers using residential internet connections for their mailservers
[22:13:54] <RedShift2> so no, that would not be a good idea ^_^
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[22:31:40] <gpled> hoping to find someone to chat with me about setting up a rule for spamassassin
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[22:39:23] <xpoint> yes postfix don't rule anymore
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[23:52:47] <kombi_> mynetworks = 0/0 doesn't seem to work anymore, what needs to be given for a public mailserver that many clients log into?
[23:54:08] <hparker> sasl
[23:54:36] <kombi_> hparker: was that for me? mynetworks = sasl?
[23:55:01] <hparker> Yes... no, setup sasl authentication
[23:55:15] <kombi_> hparker: that is of course set up
[23:55:21] <hparker> Leaving your server open to the world isn't a good idea
[23:55:44] <hparker> Then permit_sasl_authenticated should let any authenticated user send mail
[23:57:07] <kombi_> hparker: well, that actually is in my main.cf, let's find a client to check..
[23:57:21] <hparker> mynetworks is only for networks you want to relay mail from without authentication.. Mine is mynetworks = 127.0.0.1/8
[23:57:58] <kombi_> hparker: so with 0/0 I might have been an open relay all this time..;)
[23:58:09] <hparker> Uhm... Err... Yeah
[23:58:26] <kombi_> ..guess not, since sasl was still in place
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[23:58:49] <hparker> If I can send through it without authenticating, that's an open relay
[23:59:02] <kombi_> anyhow, I'll telnet into the box now from outside and see if it works
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[23:59:39] <jaredo> Hello, this may be more towards courier but I have postfix setup with courier-imap, and during authentication courier strips the domain off the username before it attempts to authenticate it.. anyone know a setting/fix?





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