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[00:17:36] <lbr> hey, I have my mailserver setup by the workaround.org tutorial for debian sarge. And I get the following error msg in my logs:  warning: smtpd_peer_init: 213.46.243.16: address not listed for hostname amsfep19-int.chello.nl and I don't know what the problem is
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[00:19:10] <lbr> I know this server is a ligit smtp server trying to send one of my testmails
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[00:24:15] <jduggan> well if you host that domain, it resolves to a different IP
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[00:24:56] <lbr> strange, because I have that problem on all domains for the server
[00:25:34] <lbr> and the main domain shouldn't have that problem in that case.
[00:25:46] <lbr> domain of mailserver itself is suffix.be
[00:26:31] <lbr> and mailtest is send to suffix.be and bunkens.be and both give this error when sended through relay.chello.be
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[00:32:01] <pexx> Hello. I'm getting (delivery temporarily suspended: connect to mail.intermax.se[212.75.85.198]: Connection timed out) and similar errors when postfix tries to deliver mails..
[00:32:12] <pexx> problem is the local machine is supposed to be mail.intermax.se ..
[00:35:48] <ruben> nictuku: Using transportmaps, if I use this line, it is correct?
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[00:36:00] <ruben> hotmail.com smtp:isp.smtp.com
[00:36:19] <ruben> To relay using isp smtp only if I send mail to hotmail, it is ok?
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[00:41:50] <nictuku> ruben, sort of
[00:42:03] <nictuku> hotmail.com smtp:[isp.smtp.com]
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[00:42:18] <nictuku> if you don't use [ ] it will use the MX record for that domain
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[00:45:30] <ruben> ups, thanks :)
[00:45:43] <lampy> Hi I was wondering if some one could help me, I'm getting errors when I'm sending email via my client. my logs keep saying, "
[00:45:56] <lampy> "Relay access denied" even when im enabling spa, and smtp auth
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[00:59:50] <pexx> how do i get postfix on an internal network understand that it's mx.domain.com and not try to send mail off to external ip?
[01:02:21] <ruben> you can put alias on /etc/hosts
[01:02:29] <ruben> mx.domain.com internalip
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[01:03:04] <pexx> seems to be doing dns lookups instead
[01:03:24] <nictuku> you mean use relayhost?
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[01:06:52] <pexx> no, postfix accepts the message correctly and then instead of a local delivery looks up the mx and tries to send it off
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[01:20:09] <nictuku> pexx, mydestination?, transport_map ?
[01:22:16] <nictuku> pexx, are the mailbox in this server? or in another server in the network?
[01:22:47] <pexx> it's all on the same
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[01:24:39] <efaistos> hi
[01:25:40] <efaistos> can someone help me ?
[01:25:46] <pexx> nictuku, could it have something to do with virtusertable not functioning?
[01:26:26] <pexx> (not sure if it does, just grasping for straws)
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[01:30:21] <efaistos> here is my main.cf --> http://rafb.net/p/vTrFrc12.html
[01:30:34] <nictuku> pexx, yes. probably. is the domain in "virtual_domains" ?
[01:30:43] <efaistos> can someone check it to say me what it's wrong ?
[01:31:08] <nictuku> efaistos, ? but what's your problem
[01:31:14] <nictuku> efaistos, error messages?
[01:32:04] <efaistos> nictuku: try to do a telnet on localhost to send a message but it's blocked on mail from: ...
[01:32:11] <efaistos> cant do anything after that
[01:32:14] <nictuku> should helbi-consulting.com be a local domain or a virtual domain?
[01:32:25] <nictuku> efaistos, see the logs
[01:32:41] <nictuku> guess there's something wrong with the postgresql settings
[01:33:48] <efaistos> Apr 15 23:31:47 ns24847 postfix/trivial-rewrite[12259]: fatal: pgsql:/etc/postfix/pgsql-alias.cf(0,lock|fold_fix): table lookup problem
[01:34:10] <nictuku> previous lines?
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[01:39:01] <efaistos> nictuku: can I put it as a virtual domain ?
[01:40:27] <lbr> How can I permit any mailserver to send mail to any of the virtual domains on my server.
[01:41:39] <lbr> Because I get errors of bad lookups with this line in main.cf: smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated, reject_unauth_destination
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[02:05:27] <pexx> is there something seriously wrong with http://phpc.yes.nu/postfix.txt ?
[02:07:28] <pexx> oh for the love of.. nevermind
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[02:24:45] <lbr> ok I found out that the problem is laying in the enforce tls and ssl_auth. in the main.cf when I remove those lines, all mails is coming through.
[02:25:01] <lbr> anyone, an idea why this is?
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[03:22:36] <efaistos> I'm trying to configure postfix with pgsql and I got this message : fatal: pgsql:/etc/postfix/pgsql-alias.cf(0,lock|fold_fix): table lookup problem
[03:22:53] <efaistos> did someone get this message ?
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[03:26:41] <Zand3r> Hi all... I have been discussing this in both #spamassassin and #amavis but it appears I may need a Postfix specific solution. I want to run incoming email through both Spamassassin and ClamAV. I could use amavisd-new for this however it seems that my ideal setup would be to have a per-user spamassassin bayes database which amavis does not support. I am also using Dovecot LDA which has been great but does not allow me to ru
[03:26:41] <Zand3r> n applications on delivery so I can not run spamassassin at that point. I am wondering if anyone has any suggestions as to how I might run mail through both Spamassassin (spamc ?) and ClamAV whilst still being able to have a per-user bayes database. I can't be the only one wanting to do this can I?
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[03:31:26] <higuita> Zand3r: i still didnt setup a dovecot with LDA, but i thing you can use a procmail do do that...
[03:32:41] <higuita> put in the $HOME/.procmail to first pass the message to spamc, then reinject that mail and if it have the spamassassin header, send it to the dovecot LDA (that IIRC is just a normal program)
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[03:32:59] <higuita> againm never setup this, but i think it should work
[03:33:10] <higuita> probably there even better soluctions
[03:34:55] <efaistos> higuita: do you have an idea ?
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[03:38:27] <Zand3r> higuita: By introducing procmail you are chaining LDAs - having Postfix pass mail to Procmail which will never actually deliver the mail but simply pass the mail through spamassassin and then inject back in to psotfix for final delivery using Dovecot LDA. is this correct? Does Procmail support virtual users - I opted for Dovecot LDA in the first palce for its very nice virtual user support. I had imagined the clamav and spa
[03:38:28] <Zand3r> massassin filtering should be handled at the psotfix stage I have not seen a solution that chans LDAs int his way.
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[03:46:56] <Zand3r> Is it possible to chain filters so I coudl run mail through ClamAV and then through spamassassin (supporting a per-user configuration and bayes setup)? Does anyone know of any documented examples fo this as I haven;t seen any?
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[06:04:29] <lkthomas> hey guys
[06:04:37] <lkthomas> anyone try policyd before ?
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[06:57:48] <stony> hi
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[06:59:05] <f3ew> lo
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[07:03:12] <glitchz> Hi
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[08:30:59] <ek> Anyone here very familiar with Cyrus-SASL?
[08:31:13] <ek> I've gotten an odd error and Google seems to be of zero help.
[08:31:42] <ek> warning: SASL authentication problem: unrecognized plaintext verifier auxprop
[08:32:12] <ek> I don't understand how auxprop wouldn't be a legit pwcheck_method...
[08:33:14] <f3ew> what does your smtpd.conf file contain?
[08:33:22] <f3ew> Does it have any extraneous whitespace?
[08:33:43] <ek> Not that I'm aware of. Let me check though.
[08:33:48] <ek> I'll post it as well.
[08:38:13] <ek> f3ew: No extra whitespaces I can see. And the contents of the files are here: http://www.pastecode.com/24651
[08:38:30] <ek> Of course, the <db*> stuff is properly set in the real file.
[08:41:36] <f3ew> that looks fine
[08:41:47] <f3ew> Do you have the auxprop libs/plugins installed?
[08:42:15] <lkthomas> f3ew, hey
[08:42:38] <lkthomas> f3ew, is it have any program other than policyd which could limit sender throttling ?
[08:43:02] <f3ew> you need a custom policy daemon
[08:43:13] <ek> f3ew: I'm not sure. I suppose that's my question. I'm using FC4 at the moment. I'm not much of a Linux guy. The RPM stuff kills me. :P
[08:43:20] <lkthomas> any project with such feature ?
[08:43:32] <f3ew> lkthomas policyd.sf.net
[08:43:42] <f3ew> I don't know of any others
[08:43:43] <lkthomas> f3ew, I mean, other than policyd
[08:43:49] <f3ew> ek, hmmmm
[08:43:51] <ek> f3ew: I checked the available yum stuff though. Didn't see anything for auxprop or cyrus-sasl that didn't have...
[08:43:54] <f3ew> no clue then
[08:43:56] <lkthomas> k
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[08:52:30] <ek> Hrm. Driving me crazy.
[08:52:44] <ek> f3ew: Where would I check for the auxprop libs/plugins do you think?
[08:52:48] <ek> Well, wait. Hold on.
[08:53:31] <ek> Well, I'd assume it has the proper auxprop stuffs... The man pages are there also.
[08:56:20] <ek> I wonder if it has anything to do with using SASL1 as opposed to SASL2?
[08:56:32] <ek> Maybe SASL1 doesn't have auxprop function?
[08:56:49] <ek> I could always rebuild postfix. I'll try that real quick.
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[09:00:55] <ek> Hrm. It seems with SASL1 you can use "pwcheck_method: sasldb" but with SASL2 you would use "pwcheck_method: auxprop" and use "sasldb" as the auxprop_plugin...
[09:00:59] <ek> So, maybe that is the issue.
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[09:15:15] <ek> f3ew: Yep. Okay. It was a SASL1.X vs SASL2.X issue.
[09:15:21] <f3ew> ah, cool
[09:15:27] <ek> However, now the smtpd just dies immediately. Lol.
[09:15:56] <ek> Not a very informative log error either.
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[09:29:00] <lkthomas> guys
[09:29:15] <lkthomas> can I put one more layer before user could reach postfix on sasl ?
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[09:29:46] <lkthomas> so that this layer could reject everything which is unauth before spammer reach postfix
[09:42:15] <ek> lkthomas: Sure. I don't see why not.
[09:42:34] <lkthomas> ek, any existing solution ?
[09:42:36] <ek> Hrm. I can't figure out what's going with this setup now. It's segfaulting.
[09:42:49] <ek> lkthomas: Besides RBLs?
[09:43:00] <lkthomas> yeah
[09:43:09] <lkthomas> we are talking about sender
[09:43:14] <lkthomas> not recipient
[09:43:17] <ek> Ah.
[09:43:20] <ek> Hrm. I don't know.
[09:43:38] <lkthomas> hmm
[09:43:41] <ek> My Postfix installation is segfaulting it's ass off atm.
[09:43:44] <ek> Lol.
[09:43:47] <ek> Can't figure out why.
[09:43:56] <lkthomas> try strace
[09:48:16] <lkthomas> LOL
[09:48:34] <lkthomas> my fucking lame debian still running version 2.1.5 of postfix
[09:48:49] <lkthomas> I think it's 2years old ?
[09:53:21] <lkthomas> my postfix rocks
[09:53:37] <lkthomas> ever got 3.2K email spamming per min ?
[09:53:59] <lkthomas> postfix stand still after the spamming
[09:58:39] <ek> Nice.
[09:58:45] <ek> Hrm. I'm getting nothing informative from anything.
[09:58:57] <ek> There's no information regarding the sig 11 at all.
[09:59:05] <lkthomas> not sure
[09:59:15] <lkthomas> never had seg fault problem
[09:59:21] <lkthomas> it shouldn't be like that as well
[09:59:26] <lkthomas> you know, postfix is stable as hell
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[10:00:19] <ek> Yeah. I've been using it for quite some time.
[10:00:26] <lkthomas> check log
[10:00:27] <ek> I'm just not very familiar with Linux...
[10:00:34] <lkthomas> see if log size is overloaded
[10:00:47] <lkthomas> if you don't mind, I could ssh to look at it for you
[10:01:09] <ek> Well, the odd thing is that this started after moving from sasl1 to sasl2.
[10:01:16] <ek> But, sasl1 doesn't support auxprop apparently.
[10:01:26] <ek> I could retry with sasl1 and see if it does the same thing.
[10:01:27] <lkthomas> LOL!
[10:01:35] <lkthomas> I try to move from sasl1 to sasl2 before
[10:01:38] <lkthomas> but no luck
[10:01:45] <lkthomas> so I roll back to sasl1
[10:02:27] <lkthomas> pwcheck_method: authdaemond
[10:02:28] <lkthomas> log_level: 3
[10:02:28] <lkthomas> mech_list: PLAIN LOGIN
[10:02:28] <lkthomas> authdaemond_path:/var/run/courier/authdaemon/socket
[10:02:42] <ek> Yeah. That authdaemond stuff isn't something I want to use.
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[10:02:51] <ek> This postfix is just a relay.
[10:03:01] <ek> It doesn't house any mailboxes or anything.
[10:03:09] <lkthomas> relay with sasl ?!
[10:03:14] <ek> Yes.
[10:03:18] <lkthomas> oppps
[10:03:24] <lkthomas> never done that before
[10:03:25] <ek> I need it to auth users via SQL on another machine.
[10:03:46] <ek> I had it working before using sasl+authdaemond... But, if I don't need authdaemond... *shrug*
[10:03:47] <lkthomas> use authdaemond.mysql to access other machine
[10:03:57] <ek> Says it can use the smtpd.conf using auxprop+sql to authenticate users.
[10:04:21] <ek> Might have to.
[10:04:24] <ek> Driving me nuts.
[10:04:27] <lkthomas> if it works, don't change it :)
[10:05:15] <ek> Well, I'm not changing it really.
[10:05:25] <ek> The server got hosed a few days ago. I have to start from scratch. =/
[10:05:37] <ek> Figured I'd do it right this time.
[10:05:46] <ek> Get rid of the middle-man (authdaemond).
[10:06:16] <ek> Hrm. Yum doesn't have an authdaemond install?
[10:06:17] <lkthomas> mmm
[10:06:23] <ek> Or does it come with something else?
[10:06:26] <lkthomas> not sure, I don't use fedora
[10:08:38] <ek> Haha. Going back to SASL1 works... What a crock.
[10:08:55] <ek> So, I use SASL1 without authentication or nothing at all. :P
[10:09:02] <ek> Yeah. Fedora sucks.
[10:09:05] <ek> I'm not happy with it at all.
[10:09:08] <ek> FBSD <3
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[10:11:08] <lkthomas> heh
[10:14:55] <lkthomas> once you got it running, you will be scare to upgrade it :)
[10:15:47] <ek> Haha.
[10:15:57] <lkthomas> I am on this situation
[10:16:00] <ek> Well, once I figure out what the hell is going on here I'll probably understand when I upgrade.
[10:16:10] <ek> I just don't understand why it dies using sasl2 as opposed to 1?
[10:16:16] <lkthomas> client wouldn't be able to wait here
[10:16:28] <stellina> hello
[10:16:58] <stellina> I'm trying to get gnarwl work but it doesn't work correctly. Can somebody help me?
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[10:30:11] <ek> stellina: Haven't ever used gnarwl before. Sorry.
[10:30:23] <ek> lkthomas: Maybe it's using different header files or something between the two sasl installs.
[10:30:29] <ek> I found two different sasl.h's...
[10:30:34] <lkthomas> LOL
[10:30:35] <ek> I'll try using the other one I guess.. *shrug*
[10:30:35] <lkthomas> grr
[10:30:36] <ek> Worth a shot.
[10:30:52] <ek> I have /usr/include/sasl.h and /usr/include/sasl/sasl.h
[10:31:04] <ek> I've been using the /usr/include one until right now.
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[10:31:57] <stellina> ok thanx
[10:40:13] <ek> lkthomas: Fixed. :P
[10:40:20] <ek> Fucking mixed up versions of sasl!
[10:40:20] <lkthomas> haha
[10:40:22] <lkthomas> good for you
[10:40:42] <ek> Haha. Sure would have saved a lot of time to know about those two different sasl header files... >:
[10:40:51] <ek> We're talking hours of my time tonight.. Stupid.
[10:45:07] <f3ew> Hmmm
[10:45:17] <f3ew> that issue should have been fixed with RH9!
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[10:47:58] <ek> Damnit.. But, now I can't get it to authenticate.
[10:49:11] <ek> I wonder what options can be used in the smtpd.conf for the password format?
[11:01:27] <ek> Hrm. I wonder why it won't work?
[11:01:42] <ek> I see it getting the information from the other server.
[11:02:36] <ek> I wonder if to use dovecot-auth you would have to have dovecot running?
[11:11:17] <ek> I think there's a sasl channel of some time here..
[11:11:23] <ek> I'll finish this up tomorrow I suppose.
[11:11:44] <ek> I'm off to bed. Stupid errands tomorrow morning. >:
[11:11:46] <ek> G'night, all.
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[12:40:12] <ioii> which postfix book is worth buying ? (german would be fine, english is ok as well)
[12:44:33] <telmich> I would recommened reading the docs on postfix.org, but don't know which book is good
[12:54:02] <f3ew> The book of Postfix, Hidlebrandt
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[13:30:18] <[diablo]> afternoon #postfix
[13:30:53] <[diablo]> I'm trying to alias a cyrus-imap virtual user ... so I want postfix to accept mail for say user.name at domain dot com and send it to another.user at domain dot com
[13:31:02] <[diablo]> is this possible please?
[13:31:43] <f3ew> virtual_alias_maps is your friend
[13:31:55] <[diablo]> yeah I looked at that
[13:32:30] <[diablo]> but was not working..
[13:32:34] <[diablo]> using an ldap back end...
[13:32:39] <[diablo]> I'll check it again tho
[13:38:39] <[diablo]> f3ew: ah, I'm using virtual_mailbox_domains
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[13:38:52] <[diablo]> f3ew: not virtual_alias_domains
[13:47:38] <f3ew> jusr use virtual_alias_maps
[13:49:12] <[diablo]> f3ew: k
[13:51:55] <ioii> thanx f3ew
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[13:58:49] <zapalotta> Hello
[13:59:08] <zapalotta> what could this mean (or: how can I make postfix be more verbose): auxpropfunc error invalid parameter supplied ?
[13:59:29] <zapalotta> Apr 16 15:11:16 mail4 postfix/smtpd[2236]: _sasl_plugin_load failed on sasl_auxprop_plug_init for plugin: ldapdb <= this is the following line
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[14:38:31] <zapalotta> All dead?
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[14:49:17] <xpoint> no updates needed af 2.4.0 is out :)
[14:49:34] <xpoint> af = after
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[15:20:31] <rob0> How many posts would a postfix fix, if a postfix could fix posts?
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[15:22:10] <bda> Probably as many messages an MTA could transfer is an MTA was transferring messages.
[15:22:37] <Fullmetal-Mavez> rob0 you fight like a dairy farmer
[15:22:57] <rob0> That's udderly ridiculous.
[15:24:12] <rob0> zapalotta, if I was to guess, I'd say that maybe your Cyrus SASL wasn't compiled with LDAP support. Did you Google that?
[15:25:03] <zapalotta> rob0: this is debian, it provides a package libsasl2-modules-ldap which is installed
[15:25:43] <rob0> then no clue, sorry.
[15:25:50] <zapalotta> funny thing is: this is a replacement for a box also running debian etch (with hardware problems). I took the conf from the other box, which worked fine wist saslautd->LDAP
[15:25:53] <zapalotta> thanks anyways
[15:26:11] <rob0> Oh how to make smtpd verbose? Give it a -v in master.cf, stop and restart.
[15:26:23] <rob0> !debug
[15:26:24] <knoba> rob0: 'debug' : http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html : a good starting point for how to deal with problems and to report information to those who might help. Post your information in a pastebin such as http://pastebin.com/ or http://rafb.net/paste/ .
[15:26:30] <zapalotta> oh, fine :)
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[16:22:52] <k1ckn1ck> hi, i'm using postfix on ym email server. Is there anyway for an all at domain dot com which emails to all the users
[16:24:30] <rob0> Lots of ways. I think I'd alias it to a script which generates the list on the fly.
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[16:25:57] <k1ckn1ck> are there any scripts out there already?
[16:26:02] <OmiKrOn> hi *, how do I reject emails comming from * at domain dot com ?
[16:26:15] <k1ckn1ck> i dont want to mess my server up again only just got it working again
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[16:37:19] <tuxtgz10> hi
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[16:39:21] <tuxtgz10> http://nopaste.kernel-oops.de/&show=730
[16:41:50] <rob0> OmiKrOn: depends what you mean by "from". If you mean client reverse DNS, postconf.5.html#check_client_access. If you mean envelope sender, postconf.5.html#check_sender_access. If you mean a forged header From: sender, header_checks(5).
[16:42:49] <rob0> !cheatsheet
[16:42:50] <knoba> rob0: 'cheatsheet' : http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt : A HOWTO for pre-DATA spam control.
[16:43:10] <cpm> depends on what you mean by rob0
[16:43:20] <rob0> ^^ is a good introduction to access(5) controls in Postfix. Also see SMTPD_ACCESS_README.html.
[16:43:37] <rob0> um, I meant !cheatsheet, not cpm :)
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[16:45:09] <rob0> afk extended period, bye all
[16:45:36] <OmiKrOn> rob0: just want to block emails having from * at domain dot com
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[17:09:45] <ioii> how can i reprocess a single mail in mailq . i know there is postqueue -f / sendmail -q . is there something for single mails ?
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[19:16:11] <TTIelu> hello all, i'm having a configuration problem in my postfix configuration. its a virtual mailhost system, but i'm unable to receive mail on it. if i send a mail to one of my own email adresses, i get this entry in my /var/log/mail
[19:16:21] <TTIelu> Apr 16 19:13:28 evsun postfix/smtp[19012]: DB422604E4: to=<crew at hostrix dot be>, relay=none, delay=18, delays=17/0.13/0/0, dsn=5.4.6, status=bounced (mail for hostrix.be loops back to myself)
[19:16:21] <TTIelu> Apr 16 19:13:28 evsun postfix/bounce[19143]: DB422604E4: sender non-delivery notification: B15DC604F0
[19:16:48] <TTIelu> i'm unsure as to what could cause that problem, hence i'm still a noob configging postfix :p any help?
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[19:23:03] <devdas> TTIelu: /j #postfix and type !loopback
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[19:24:14] <TTIelu> !loopback
[19:24:15] <knoba> TTIelu: 'loopback' : 'Mail loops back to myself' means that your Postfix wanted to send out the mail to the internet but then discovered that the DNS says your mail server should be responsible. Most likely you forgot to list your domain in mydestination or virtual_(alias|mailbox)_domains
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[19:29:35] <TTIelu> virtual_alias_domains = /etc/postfix/local-host-names
[19:29:43] <TTIelu> is the entry in my configuration
[19:30:38] <TTIelu> but i'm using this with ispconfig, which seems to "fuck up" local-host-names file (adding www in front off everything), i tried to add the domain to it earlyer, but it seems to be removed again. let me look into it more carefully first
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[19:35:20] <bkw> Anyone who can recommend a how-to to get spamassassin working with postfix on linux?
[19:35:56] <rcsu> bkw: look at amavisd-new
[19:36:14] <rcsu> bkw: its quite easy to implement and good documented
[19:37:00] <bkw> rcsu: http://hurring.com/howto/postfix_spamd/ is what I've been trying.
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[19:38:36] <bkw> and for every email I only get: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7-deb (2006-10-05) on venus; X-Spam-Level: ; X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=failed version=3.1.7-deb
[19:39:49] <bkw> rcsu: remove spamassassin if I'm going to test avavisd now?
[19:42:36] <bkw> but spamassassin only should work with postfix, I donno why it ain't
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[19:53:52] <TTIelu> after adding the entrys to the local-host-names file myselve everything works fine
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[20:24:46] <joe4444> for some reason all mail sent by my server ends up marked as spam by gmail and hotmail...
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[20:25:42] <joe4444> i set reverse dns and in postfix/main.cf both myhostname and myorigin are set as my domain name
[20:26:02] <cpm> why does gmail mark you as spam?
[20:26:10] <joe4444> in the email header i see this tho... Received: by localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1])
[20:26:23] <joe4444> that's what i'm trying to figure out
[20:26:49] <joe4444> other non-spam messages show Received: by some-domain.com ([public IP])
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[20:30:33] <zap-clone> any sasl->ldap-expert here?
[20:30:46] <zap-clone> postfix->sasl->ldap that is
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[21:01:58] <wad> My server uses postfix, spamAssassin, and local delivery (IMAP via dovecot). My question: If a user has a .forward file in his account, does spamAssassin still check his email to see if it's spam, and mark it accordingly?
[21:05:51] <ek> wad: It should. Yes.
[21:05:58] <wad> Okay, thanks.
[21:06:13] <ek> wad: Well, actually, that would depend I suppose.
[21:06:20] <wad> :)
[21:06:26] <ek> Depends on if it delivers to another local mailbox or not.
[21:06:27] <wad> This is a pretty default installation on debian etch.
[21:06:37] <ek> I'm not 100% sure if it will check remote mailbox forwards.
[21:06:40] <wad> No, the account in questions sends the messages out.
[21:06:55] <ek> Hrm. No guarantees, but I would assume so.
[21:07:18] <ek> Especially if SpamAssassin is invoked immediately after the mail is accepted.
[21:07:31] <ek> Which I would assume it is. The forwarding should come until after the scan.
[21:07:41] <ek> s/should/shouldn't/g
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[21:08:09] <wad> ok
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[21:49:37] <ruben> Hi, in transport_maps, using transport file, what is the difference using, domain.com smtp:isp_mail instead domain.com smtp:[isp_mail] ?
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[21:52:51] <Blackvel> hi
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[21:53:37] <Blackvel> I have this entries in smtpd_recipient_restrictions: ...=..., reject_unverified_sender,
[21:53:37] <Blackvel>       check_policy_service inet:127.0.0.1:60000,
[21:53:47] <Blackvel> they work in that direction
[21:54:07] <Blackvel> unverified sender returns with 550 if its not ok
[21:54:17] <Blackvel> and then postgrey from policy service comes into play
[21:55:21] <Blackvel> would it also work vice versa? if I do postgrey first, and then adress verification? if postgrey returns 450, reject_unverified_sender shouldn't be called anymore?
[21:55:51] <Blackvel> this is so weird. I have the feeling it executes reject_unverified_sender nevertheless of return code 450 from policy service
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[21:56:16] <Blackvel> can that be? am I looking wrong? Don't I understand mail.log outputs? :)
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[22:02:06] <ek> ruben: None, really. The []'s are usually just used in place of IPs.
[22:02:58] <ek> Blackvel: They can go in any order you want I would think.
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[22:03:31] <Blackvel> and 450 stops rule checking?
[22:03:50] <vassagus> hi, im try to use my local postfix smtp to send mails
[22:03:59] <vassagus> and i have this error
[22:04:00] <vassagus> Couldn't get mail server response codes
[22:04:36] <ruben> thanks
[22:04:47] <vassagus> what i have to do,
[22:04:48] <ek> vassagus: Is that before or after Postfix queues the mail?
[22:05:19] <ek> Blackvel: It's a worth a try. I don't know for certain. But, I would certainly imagine so.
[22:05:20] <vassagus> i think that is before, becouse i dont see nothing on the queue
[22:05:57] <ek> vassagus: Trying to use it as a remote relay? Or trying to send from the machine itself?
[22:06:04] <ruben> ek: so, can I use this safely,
[22:06:06] <ruben> hotmail.com     smtp:[mailout.infolink.com]
[22:06:07] <ruben> ?
[22:06:12] <ek> ruben: Yes.
[22:06:15] <Blackvel> whats better from a generic aspect?
[22:06:20] <vassagus> trying to send from the machine itself
[22:06:27] <vassagus> im using saslauthd
[22:06:28] <ek> ruben: Or smtp:mailout.infolink.com
[22:06:31] <ek> Either will work.
[22:06:57] <ruben> thank you :)
[22:07:08] <Blackvel> first greylisting, then sender address verification or vice versa? i am not sure if some servers will kick me as my postfix always tries to enter rcpt to adresses in sending process just for verication
[22:07:41] <ek> Blackvel: I wouldn't think either one first would be much different then the next.
[22:07:51] <ek> Although, I would think greylisting would generally be first.
[22:08:08] <vassagus> ek: i have this options on my main.cf    smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes
[22:08:08] <vassagus>     smtpd_sasl_application_name = saslauthd
[22:08:46] <ek> vassagus: What system are you using?
[22:08:57] <vassagus> if i comment that i have this  Error: authentication not enabled
[22:09:00] <Blackvel> ek: my idea was. only rest which comes back should be validated for valid addresses
[22:09:09] <vassagus> mandriva 2007
[22:09:29] <ek> Blackvel: I see. That would make sense.
[22:09:32] <Blackvel> if i put greylist back, it could happen that i have to verify SOME spam senders which pass postfix UCE + RBL/RHL
[22:09:33] <vassagus> popostfix-2.3.3-4
[22:09:44] <Blackvel> RHSBL i mean
[22:09:49] <ek> Blackvel: Right.
[22:10:03] <Blackvel> thats not really a very good idea
[22:10:05] <ek> vassagus: And you're trying to verify a legit system user?
[22:10:15] <vassagus> yes
[22:10:26] <vassagus> for example i have vassagus as a unix user,
[22:10:44] <vassagus> then i try to send using smtp name vassagus, and password xxxx
[22:10:53] <ek> vassagus: As that user, what happens if you use the "mail" command to send mail from the console/terminal?
[22:11:47] <vassagus> actually im not doin it from a command im doin it from an aplication, phpbb, but i will try using mail
[22:12:00] <ek> Okay.
[22:12:22] <Blackvel> battery power is empty
[22:12:25] <Blackvel> have a good night
[22:12:26] <Blackvel> :)
[22:12:30] <ek> G'night.
[22:12:56] <vassagus> ek: maybe you can help me out if a gave you a ssh access, this is a test machine anyways
[22:13:32] <Blackvel> thanks ek
[22:13:37] <ek> vassagus: I can. Sure. However, it'll have to wait for a bit. I need to take my girlfriend to work in a few minutes.
[22:13:42] <ek> Blackvel: Sure thing.
[22:14:36] <vassagus> ok, then i will keep trying, and later you can help me out, becouse this is my first time setting up a mail server, im sure that i dont know what im doing,
[22:14:54] <vassagus> i need to read more about it, but i need to setup this first
[22:14:55] <vassagus> jeje
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[22:44:47] <vassagus> hi now i have my smpt working, well at least it authenticate, but now the mails stay on mail queue, and dont sent nothing
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[22:50:01] <TTIelu> how can i delete (a list) of msg's from my postfix queue?
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[22:58:05] <vassagus> my mails stain on queue
[22:58:10] <vassagus> but dont deliver
[22:58:15] <vassagus> what can i do?
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[23:03:20] <martix> hey guys good day
[23:03:25] <martix> this is my first time in this chan
[23:03:37] <martix> Im having this problem
[23:03:39] <martix> Apr 16 16:03:10 mail postfix/postsuper[9887]: warning: bogus file name: incoming/temp-3640-EB1A127739F.C267D
[23:03:51] <martix> this is the only server that comes with problem
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[23:04:06] <martix> Im runing postfix+MailScanner+spamassassin and clamav
[23:04:29] <martix> and this is the second time Ive seen this error
[23:04:33] <martix> what could be the problem?
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[23:28:27] <efaistos> I'm trying to configure postfix with pgsql and I got this message : fatal: pgsql:/etc/postfix/pgsql-alias.cf(0,lock|fold_fix): table lookup problem
[23:28:36] <efaistos> does someone know why ?
[23:31:22] <efaistos> http://rafb.net/p/7Owp1q54.html --> my main.cf
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[23:35:19] <jpablo> hey people, how can I make my postfix to bouce 'Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table (in reply to RCPT TO command)' mails imediatly.
[23:35:33] <jpablo> right now it keeps them in the queue and retries later.
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