[00:04:25] <rob0> mh40: Your virtual_alias_domains lookup is working, but virtual_alias_maps is not, or is not populated. Your virtual_alias_maps lookup must list every valid address in virtual_alias_domains .
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[00:06:15] <mh40> virtual_alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/virtual-map
[00:06:23] <mh40> and in virtual-map i have
[00:06:57] <mh40> user1@domain1 admin
[00:07:23] <mh40> and i have virtual_alias_domains = domain1
[00:08:06] <mh40> is there something missing?
[00:08:24] <mh40> yes i made postmap /etc/postfix/virtual-map
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[00:09:32] <rob0> That's odd, are you sure there's not a typo?
[00:09:50] <mh40> yes i try for about 6 hours now
[00:10:09] <mh40> i looked over it hundred of times
[00:10:23] <mh40> i gave everything to friends and they looked over it
[00:12:57] <mh40> if you want to take a look i can give it to you, but i don't want to post it in public
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[00:30:38] <mh40> my config is working with postfix-2.1.5
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[00:34:05] <b3stbuddy> zap-clone: I had to install sasl support a few weeks ago and created this walkthrough after, http://webfire-data.net/users/yourfriend411/SMTP_AUTH.pdf
[00:35:23] <zap-clone> b3stbuddy: thanks, I just figured it. You can debug for hours, if you simply have a typo in a config file (I had mixed up the external domain name and the internal domain name :)
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[00:43:19] <mh40> argh
[00:43:45] <mh40> i downgraded to postfix-2.1.5 of sarge, and it worked
[00:44:05] <mh40> then i went back to postfix-2.3.8 of etch, and it works????
[00:44:28] <mh40> and i thought computers are deterministic...
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[00:45:43] <b3stbuddy> zap-clone: yeah, its real frustrating...
[00:46:01] <zap-clone> :)
[00:49:44] <mh40> fixing something with downgrading and upgrading the package is also frustrating
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[00:55:43] <rob0> mh40, maybe a bug in the packaging. Postfix is something I always build from source, because it's easiest to upgrade that way.
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[01:11:46] <mh40> rob0: i changed something without noticing it, sorry. i set "virtual_alias_domains = " if i put the domains there ore in the virtual-map file, it isn't working anymore. So it isn't working in any way the postfix docs want it
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[03:27:55] <dthacker> my ubuntu setup does not support pcre  Is there an alternative dictionary type I can use without re-compiling?
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[03:37:03] <VSpike> got a small problem.  Postfix seems to be using /var/spool/<user> as a maildir, but both courier-imap and dovecot seem to use ~/Maildir
[03:37:24] <VSpike> How do I make them agree?  Should I try to change the IMAP server(s) or postfix?
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[03:46:21] <rob0> Yes, you probably should change one or the other. :) The most common complaint is mailbox_command ; you might think setting home_mailbox does something, but mailbox_command overrides it. "man local".
[03:46:54] <lunaphyte> dthacker: there are many dictionary types.  can you not install the package?
[03:47:39] <lunaphyte> postconf -m will show you the current list.
[03:48:13] <dthacker> lunaphyte: better question.  pcre is not supported with the package, what should I use instead?
[03:49:05] <lunaphyte> within what package?
[03:49:16] <dthacker> I'm not sure which of the types shown in my postconf -m is an equivalent
[03:49:32] <rob0> Obviously regexp: is rather similar in function.
[03:52:21] <dthacker> I'm low volume for now.  I'll give regexp a shot
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[04:04:06] <VSpike> rob0: thanks.  I used mailbox_command to plug in maildrop (which I wanted to do anyway) and made maildrop deliver to ~/Maildir
[04:04:11] <VSpike> workign now I think
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[04:39:46] <mod_cure>  is there a way to check to the sender email address and check the email with a database ?
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[05:09:05] <the-erm> I really need help mail isn't being put into Maildir/
[05:09:30] <the-erm> I keep getting an unknown error with only 3 or 4 entries in google for it.
[05:10:29] <the-erm> status=deferred (unknown mail transport error)
[05:10:37] <the-erm> and
[05:10:56] <the-erm> PAM unable to dlopen(/lib/security/pam_foreground.so)
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[05:51:27] <the-erm> Well then how about this ... anyone with /var/spool/postfix/Maildir mind telling me what the user:group:perms are?
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[06:03:55] <rob0> the-erm: the answer to that (if anyone CAN answer it) would surely not help you.
[06:04:20] <rob0> Why is a Maildir in /var/spool/postfix ?
[06:04:52] <rob0> I sense a very broken install here ... maybe an upgrade gone bad?
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[06:09:17] * f3ew guesses binary package install, with ~postfix set to /var/spool/postfix
[06:09:24] <f3ew> and root aliased to postfix
[06:11:56] <rob0> ah, that might do it
[06:12:20] <rob0> Hear about Vonnegut? Wow, I'm bummed out.
[06:12:39] <f3ew> yes
[06:12:44] <f3ew> two days ago
[06:13:01] <rob0> I just heard it.
[06:13:15] * f3ew is about to introduce yet another person to Vonnegut
[06:17:08] <rob0> I always wanted to meet Vonnegut IRL. Sat on my arse too long, it seems. I could have gone to public appearances and such, never did.
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[06:38:04] <_matt> whats with this padding file 0 in a torrent ? it says, if you see this file update to bitcomet 0.5 of above
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[06:38:36] <_matt> oops, thought i was in #linux lol
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[06:57:02] <Fudge> my mail is working but the return address says localhost.mydomain.com
[06:57:05] <Fudge> how cna i fix that?
[06:59:15] <f3ew> set it correctly in your client
[07:00:39] <Fudge> its mutt im using
[07:01:37] <Fudge> donno where to change it
[07:02:21] <f3ew> set envelope_from = yes
[07:02:24] <f3ew> in ~/.muttrc
[07:04:15] <Fudge> i donno why but i havent got that file
[07:04:35] <Fudge> its on ubuntu
[07:06:37] <f3ew> create it
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[07:15:51] <Fudge> oh
[07:19:20] <Fudge> k i did that
[07:19:31] <Fudge> dont need to restart the mail server or anything?
[07:20:12] <f3ew> no
[07:20:21] <rob0> You're changing mutt settings, not Postfix.
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[07:25:21] <Vegeeta> hello..
[07:25:33] <Vegeeta> i am having some problem with postfix
[07:25:33] <Fudge> k
[07:25:38] <Vegeeta> I can send email to
[07:25:50] <Vegeeta> for example: emerge.gentoo.org
[07:25:58] <Vegeeta> but cannot send email to gentoo.org
[07:26:12] <Vegeeta> it says relaying denied..
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[07:26:30] <Vegeeta> anyone know how i can fix this?
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[07:50:34] <ek> rob0: You used smtp auth over networks at all?
[07:50:35] <KenSentMe> Hi there. I installed postfix on a Ubuntu Dapper install and use ISPConfig to manage things. I've configured my system and postfix with a hostname that isn't currently usable (e.g. the domain is currently set to another ip). I've edited main.cf and set myhostname to localhost. But everytime a mail comes in postfix tries to deliver it to user at old dot hostname.org. I've restarted postfix, but that didn't help. Any ideas? This is my /etc/postfi
[07:50:37] <ek> Or anyone for that matter?
[07:50:42] <KenSentMe> x/main.cf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15267/
[07:53:08] <rob0> Sure, all my personal mail is sent using AUTH.
[07:53:22] <sep> KenSentMe, when a mail comes it, dont it allready have the adderss  user at old dot hostname.org ?
[07:53:57] <KenSentMe> Apr 13 07:47:17 localhost postfix/smtp[13500]: connect to ubuntu606m.worldofubuntu.com[68.178.232.99]: Connection timed out (port 25)
[07:54:00] <KenSentMe> Apr 13 07:47:17 localhost postfix/smtp[13500]: C4A266E8531: to=<jeroen_mijnfotomap at ubuntu606m dot worldofubuntu.com>, orig_to=<jeroen at mijnfotomap dot nl>, relay=none, delay=31, status=deferred (connect to ubuntu606m.worldofubuntu.com[68.178.232.99]: Connection timed out)
[07:54:42] <KenSentMe> sep, that's what i get in my logs. ubuntu606m.worldofubuntu.com was in my config files. But not anymore. It's the old.hostname/.org
[07:54:44] <sep> just add old.hostname.org to  mydestination= and it should deliver to the unixuser "user"
[07:55:04] <sep> and you dont want to try to send it there, but to accept it and deliver localy ?
[07:55:59] <KenSentMe> I registered the domain but haven't configured the dns for that domain
[07:56:15] <sep> but what are you trying to DO
[07:56:23] <sep> what is the wanted behavior
[07:57:07] <KenSentMe> I want mail sent to this server delivered to clients running on this system.
[07:57:17] <sep> KenSentMe, to clients ?
[07:57:26] <sep> to unixusers or to virtual users ?
[07:57:33] <KenSentMe> virtual users
[07:57:45] <KenSentMe> I've set up a server with ISPConfig
[07:57:59] <sep> then you must list the domain to accept mail for in virtual_mailbox_domains =
[07:58:09] <sep> and NOT in   mydestination=
[07:58:20] <sep> i have no idea what ispconfig is or does
[07:59:14] <KenSentMe> It seems to work now after adding the domain to mydestination, but i can't figure out why it uses that domain when delivering mails
[07:59:41] <sep> dont use mydestination= for virtual users, that is for unixusers
[07:59:42] <KenSentMe> ISPConfig is a web admin for setting up webhosting etc. Just like directadmin
[08:01:09] <sep> it probably just twiddle the sql adtabase like all the other admin tools ?
[08:02:23] <sep> point is if you want to deliver to virtual users add domain name to  virtual_mailbox_domains =, if you want to deliver to unixusers add it to  mydestination=, but not to both obviously
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[08:03:08] <sep> and i'd assume that if you configured your postfix correctly to your isp admin tool. it would happen automagicaly when you added a new domain in the ispadmin tool
[08:04:47] <KenSentMe> sep, i think it delivers to a local user, because all domains are set in /etc/postfix/local-host-names
[08:05:32] <KenSentMe> This is a part of my mail.log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15325/
[08:07:38] <KenSentMe> But i will dive into it a little more. I don't quite understand everything on mail sending and handling
[08:07:51] <KenSentMe> sep,  Thanks for your help
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[08:09:59] <ek> Hrm.
[08:10:37] <ek> Is it possible to authenticate users using auxprop sql method with encrypted sql passwords?
[08:11:30] <ek> Well, without patching cyrus-sasl2.
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[08:42:37] <rob0> ek: That I wouldn't know. The only ones I have now are Dovecots anyway.
[08:47:07] <ek> rob0: Same..
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[08:47:16] <ek> I'm trying use an outside server as a relay though.
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[08:47:20] <ek> Dovecot inside..
[08:47:32] <ek> But, the outside server needs to be able to auth users on it's end..
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[08:47:46] <ek> I had it working with saslauthd before... But, I'd like to avoid that if at all possible.
[08:47:53] <ek> Apparently the auxprop is supposed to work. *shrug*
[08:48:13] <ek> It's all I have left to accomplish to have this server back up and running.. (Lost it completely about 2 days ago)
[08:48:54] <rob0> Are you on the list? P@trick usually helps with SASL.
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[08:56:30] <lkthomas> guys, is there have any method to show statistics for each user ?
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[09:00:53] <f3ew> what kind of statistics?
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[10:36:20] <AussieJames> hello
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[10:44:16] <AussieJames> Anyone around?
[10:46:25] <sep> nobody have the time for idle chatting. if you have a real question just ask it. and have patience. reading the topic is also clever
[10:51:47] <AussieJames> Yea, I've read the the topic :)
[10:52:32] <AussieJames> I'm getting the following error in my postfix logs (/var/log/mail.log): Apr 13 18:27:47 rainbow imapd: Connection, ip=[::ffff:127.0.0.1]
[10:52:33] <AussieJames> Apr 13 18:27:47 rainbow imapd: LOGIN FAILED, user=james at jameskirsop dot com, ip=[::ffff:127.0.0.1]
[10:52:33] <AussieJames> Apr 13 18:27:47 rainbow imapd: authentication error: Input/output error
[10:52:54] <AussieJames> I've had a look around on Google and a few other places, but can't seem to find a solution that works.
[10:53:42] <AussieJames> I'm using Christoph Haas' tutorial for Debian Sarge, however I'm on an etch system - one would think it wouldn't change that much
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[11:06:42] <f3ew> that's courier, not postfix
[11:06:45] <f3ew> send the user an email
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[11:17:45] <AussieJames> i have sent the user an email :)
[11:18:10] <AussieJames> I've followed the instructions as per Christoph's tutorial
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[11:24:05] <VSpike> I'm using fetchmail + postfix + maildrop for mail delivery, and I seem to be getting multiple copies of messages delivered.  Can anyone help me find out why?  I'm a bit out of my depth
[11:24:23] <VSpike> if I grep /var/log/mail.log for the email address of the sender of one of the messages, it only appears once in the postfix output
[11:24:32] <VSpike> that suggests to me that fetchmail is delivering it once only to postfix
[11:24:37] <VSpike> Seems like the problem is somewhere between postfix and maildrop
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[11:34:10] <k1ckn1ck> currently using the install from workaround.org for my email server, and looking for a good effective vacation script so users can set themselves as away. Currently using squirrelmail. Are there any such programs/scripts available?
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[11:39:48] <AussieJames> I've got a feeling that squirrelmail has an autoresponse feature, or at least I've seen something like that in action
[11:40:30] <k1ckn1ck> i havent been able to fidn it, does also need to be able to work with virtual domans and users
[11:42:44] <AussieJames> fair enough, I haven't even got my mail server working yet - so your ahead of where I am :)
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[11:47:24] <k1ckn1ck> what problem u having?
[11:47:30] <k1ckn1ck> might be able to help :)
[11:52:13] <AussieJames> oh ok :)
[11:52:32] <AussieJames> well, I've just followed the guide at workaround.org for the sarge install.. but I'm running etch
[11:52:55] <AussieJames> Anyway, I'm getting this error:
[11:52:58] <AussieJames> Apr 13 18:27:47 rainbow imapd: Connection, ip=[::ffff:127.0.0.1]
[11:52:59] <AussieJames> Apr 13 18:27:47 rainbow imapd: LOGIN FAILED, user=james at jameskirsop dot com, ip=[::ffff:127.0.0.1]
[11:52:59] <AussieJames> Apr 13 18:27:47 rainbow imapd: authentication error: Input/output error
[11:53:43] <AussieJames> I'm not sure how to fix it, I've done so searching on Google and tried a few things - but haven't been able to get a working solution
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[12:01:24] <mrfree> hi all
[12:01:51] <mrfree> I have some probs with postfix+sasl auth+ldap
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[12:02:01] <mrfree> Apr 13 12:04:08 mail postfix/smtpd[5409]: warning: SASL authentication failure: Password verification failed
[12:02:02] <mrfree> Apr 13 12:04:08 mail postfix/smtpd[5409]: warning: unknown[x.x.x.x]: SASL PLAIN authentication failed: authentication failure
[12:02:26] <mrfree> but with testsaslauthd auth works
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[12:06:14] <k1ckn1ck> aussie i did not even know about etch, i been using sarge lol :O
[12:06:29] <AussieJames> thats ok, but I'm sure it can't be too much different
[12:06:38] <k1ckn1ck> very true
[12:06:59] <AussieJames> I was running etch unstable for quite some time - but never got around to doing a mail server install on it
[12:07:40] <k1ckn1ck> is etch stable now then?
[12:07:58] <lennard> it is
[12:08:02] <AussieJames> sure is :)
[12:09:33] <k1ckn1ck> aussie in your log filesm is there another line after imapd: authentication error: Input/output error
[12:09:46] <k1ckn1ck> possibly authdaemond: ldap_simple_bind_s failed: Can't contact LDAP server
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[12:11:01] <k1ckn1ck> and the install for sarge on workaround.org does nto emntion anything about using ldap
[12:11:06] <k1ckn1ck> mention
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[12:12:11] <k1ckn1ck> wooops
[12:12:50] <AussieJames> kick.. nah, I'm using the mysql/virtual setup
[12:12:57] <AussieJames> so ldap isn't the problem :)
[12:13:01] <k1ckn1ck> hmmmm
[12:15:09] <AussieJames> it could be something inside etch .. but you wouldn't think so
[12:15:25] <k1ckn1ck> trust me i wudnt expect a lot of things
[12:15:40] <k1ckn1ck> did apt-get update the other day, mysql just stopped running
[12:15:45] <AussieJames> wow
[12:15:47] <AussieJames> that sucks
[12:16:10] <AussieJames> did u get it sorted out?
[12:16:23] <k1ckn1ck> have u checked to make sure u have not left any blank spaces in your config files that you have edited
[12:16:47] <k1ckn1ck> yeah was an issue with the updated squirrelmail
[12:17:27] <AussieJames> yea, I've gone thru and made sure all the courier files don't have spaces @ the end of the lines :)
[12:17:53] <AussieJames> do spaces before things screw up as well?? I only checked at the end of uncommented lines
[12:17:54] <k1ckn1ck> u been here ? http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-291738-highlight-authdaemond.html
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[12:18:06] <k1ckn1ck> seems theres a problem with courier-imap
[12:18:08] <AussieJames> no, I'll take a look
[12:19:23] <k1ckn1ck> only version 4 tho so depends what version u running
[12:20:37] <AussieJames> yea, what ever apt-get pulled down for me
[12:20:49] <AussieJames> nothing on that page really helps me all that much
[12:20:52] <AussieJames> thanks anyway
[12:21:01] <k1ckn1ck> u sure
[12:21:57] <k1ckn1ck> last post mentions forgetting to comment out the #MYSQL_CRYPT_PWFIELD crypt line
[12:22:02] <k1ckn1ck> in section 10
[12:23:02] <k1ckn1ck> and uncommenting the MYSQL_CLEAR_PWFIELD clear line
[12:23:34] <AussieJames> yea, I've done that :)
[12:23:53] <k1ckn1ck> sorry i cant be any more help
[12:24:11] <AussieJames> in the howto it actually gets you to change that line from clear to password.. but I've just changed it back.. about to see if it makes a difference
[12:24:17] <AussieJames> that's fine :) thanks for the help!
[12:24:59] <AussieJames> didn't work unfortunately
[12:25:35] <k1ckn1ck> have u been restarting the services?
[12:25:44] <k1ckn1ck> before testing
[12:25:57] <AussieJames> sure have :)
[12:26:31] <k1ckn1ck> i wud have a guess that its an issue within step 9 of the setup
[12:27:21] <AussieJames> yea, I've been able to everything there. Except for the very last paragraph of that step
[12:27:40] <k1ckn1ck> u cant do the telnet thing
[12:28:01] <AussieJames> I can :)
[12:28:16] <AussieJames> Everyting worked like I described? Great. Then as a last test you may try to fetch the email from your mail client via POP3 or IMAP (depending on what service you installed). The username for fetching email is always the email address ("user at virtual dot test") and the password is "secret" in this test case.
[12:28:24] <AussieJames> that's what I can't get to work
[12:30:14] <k1ckn1ck> that user must have an email in the account already for it to work
[12:30:40] <AussieJames> yea
[12:30:51] <AussieJames> I've done the find thing. theres' some messages in the box
[12:31:07] <AussieJames> eg: /home/vmail/jameskirsop.com/james/new/1176435784.V305I57833M579396.rainbow
[12:31:23] <k1ckn1ck> ok
[12:33:05] <k1ckn1ck> to think he even says at the bottom he gonna do an etch tutorial
[12:33:11] <AussieJames> yea, I know
[12:33:16] <AussieJames> I can't wait till he does ;)
[12:33:36] <AussieJames> I might just leave it for the moment, it's not a priority.. just something I'd like to get done soon
[12:34:37] <k1ckn1ck> understandable
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[12:35:04] <k1ckn1ck> how r u trying to retrieve ur emails
[12:35:14] <AussieJames> squirrelmail
[12:35:20] <k1ckn1ck> hmmm
[12:35:33] <k1ckn1ck> u tried using a client such as outlook
[12:35:48] <AussieJames> I'm on a Mac ;) but I'll try Mail.app now
[12:35:50] <k1ckn1ck> ona seperate computer
[12:36:02] <k1ckn1ck> because the new squirrelmail is what was causing my problems
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[12:36:15] <AussieJames> yea, the debian box has no gui ;) It's just CLI to the core
[12:36:22] <k1ckn1ck> yup
[12:36:23] <AussieJames> not even a monitor attached to it
[12:36:26] <k1ckn1ck> better that way tho
[12:36:31] <AussieJames> absoloutely
[12:36:37] <k1ckn1ck> stops ppl being nosey
[12:36:40] <Maccie> hi there
[12:37:43] <k1ckn1ck> hey
[12:37:49] <Maccie> Im running postfix mysql spamassassin and amavisd, but some of my clients are receiving duplicate mail,can someone help
[12:37:51] <Maccie> me
[12:37:52] <Maccie> pls
[12:37:53] <AussieJames> Apr 13 20:42:04 rainbow imapd: Connection, ip=[::ffff:192.168.0.1]
[12:37:53] <AussieJames> Apr 13 20:42:04 rainbow imapd: LOGIN FAILED, user=james at jameskirsop dot com, ip=[::ffff:192.168.0.1]
[12:37:53] <AussieJames> Apr 13 20:42:04 rainbow imapd: authentication error: Input/output error
[12:38:02] <k1ckn1ck> damn it :(
[12:38:08] <AussieJames> k1ckn1ck - same error, just a diff IP
[12:38:19] <k1ckn1ck> its a courier-mysql connection problem then
[12:38:32] <cpm> authtest
[12:38:47] <AussieJames> yea, I had an issue before - but I managed to get that error to go away
[12:38:50] <AussieJames> sorry cpm??
[12:39:07] <cpm> courierauthtest is the best way to troubleshoot this,
[12:39:13] <AussieJames> ah ok
[12:39:32] <AussieJames> what's the command for that?
[12:42:38] <AussieJames> james@rainbow:/var/log$ sudo authtest james at jameskirsop dot com
[12:42:38] <AussieJames> Authentication FAILED: Input/output error
[12:43:43] <mrfree> Ok I solved my prob
[12:43:58] <AussieJames> congrats mrfree :)
[12:44:08] <mrfree> I forgot to add @%r into che saslauthd ldap_filter
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[12:47:45] <k1ckn1ck> u done this Careful - the authmysqlrc is a bit picky. Make sure you have not accidentally inserted trailing spaces on the lines. (If you are editing the file in 'vim' this command should take care of that: :%s/\s\+$//g)
[12:48:06] <k1ckn1ck> i had a problem doing that on my first time
[12:48:25] <AussieJames> okies, I'll try it
[12:48:30] <k1ckn1ck> or can u paste a copy of that file somewhere
[12:48:35] <AussieJames> will vi take that command as well?
[12:48:41] <k1ckn1ck> not sure
[12:48:47] <k1ckn1ck> would of thought so
[12:48:50] <AussieJames> hehe, worth a try :)
[12:49:20] <k1ckn1ck> paste a copy of that file http://www.nomorepasting.com/
[12:50:01] <AussieJames> I just got a 'Pattern not found' error
[12:50:14] <k1ckn1ck> paste a copy fo that file
[12:50:19] <k1ckn1ck> i'll compare it with mine
[12:50:26] <k1ckn1ck> dont paste in ehre tho
[12:50:29] <k1ckn1ck> here*
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[12:50:47] <AussieJames> yea, I'll *** out my password ;)
[12:50:56] <k1ckn1ck> oh yeah of course
[12:53:49] <AussieJames> http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=76879
[12:54:51] <k1ckn1ck> right for an example between mysql_server    and localhost on same line. Is it tabbed or individual spaces
[12:54:57] <k1ckn1ck> i dont know the correct term for it
[12:55:19] <k1ckn1ck> line 26
[12:56:08] <AussieJames> ill see
[12:56:33] <AussieJames> its tabs :)
[12:56:56] <k1ckn1ck> make sure they are all tabs
[12:57:05] <k1ckn1ck> on the ones u have edited
[12:57:05] <AussieJames> yea, I think they are
[12:57:12] <AussieJames> yea
[12:57:26] <k1ckn1ck> also at the end of lines you have edited there cannot be any spaces
[12:57:36] <AussieJames> yea, I've checked that one already
[12:57:42] <k1ckn1ck> :(
[12:57:49] <k1ckn1ck> i'm running out of ideas
[12:57:58] <k1ckn1ck> its a lot harder than i imagined
[12:58:09] <k1ckn1ck> so much easier when its in front of ya
[12:58:37] <AussieJames> well, I just got some mail from my server (I'm running nagios)
[12:58:53] <k1ckn1ck> nagios :S
[12:59:03] <AussieJames> u dont know what it is, or don't like it?
[12:59:12] <k1ckn1ck> dont know what it is
[12:59:47] <AussieJames> its a network monitor
[12:59:54] <AussieJames> it monitors machines on a network... :)
[12:59:57] <AussieJames> www.nagios.org
[13:01:25] <k1ckn1ck> ooo i'll have a lookat that
[13:01:46] <AussieJames> it's great
[13:01:57] <AussieJames> A little hard to configure first time around, but you get used to it after a while
[13:02:05] <AussieJames> It's come along way since earlier versions :)
[13:02:15] <AussieJames> Still can't find any spaces :(
[13:02:18] <k1ckn1ck> u sure
[13:02:47] <k1ckn1ck> it appears as if there is a space after every line on the paste
[13:03:02] <k1ckn1ck> i just copied mine like yours and theres no spaces afterwards
[13:03:12] <k1ckn1ck> brb
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[13:06:27] <AussieJames> mm.. that's weird
[13:06:44] <AussieJames> In VI I can't go any more to the right of each line at the last character
[13:07:31] <f3ew> why is it wierd?
[13:07:50] <AussieJames> well.. i can see no whitespaces.. while k1nkn1ck can
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[13:13:34] <k1ckn1ck> must just be what nomorepasting does to it then
[13:14:37] <AussieJames> maybe
[13:14:59] <k1ckn1ck> nomorepasting also does not show the tabs it shows them as sep spaces
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[13:19:25] <stellina> hi people
[13:20:11] <stellina> is it possible to have the transports.db data in ldap? if so what would the result data be like? just something like smtp:mail.server.dom ?
[13:26:49] <f3ew> yes
[13:27:22] <stellina> ok thnx
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[14:05:27] <sw> The default_destination_concurrency_limit parameter (default: 20) controls how many messages may be sent to the same destination simultaneously. You can override this setting for specific message delivery transports by taking the name of the master.cf entry and appending "_destination_concurrency_limit".
[14:05:36] <sw> can someone please tell me what to append ?
[14:08:07] <f3ew> If your transport is named foo, the concurrency limit is foo_destination_concurrency_limit
[14:10:07] <sw> f3ew:  i'd like to set the concurrency limit to this interface :
[14:10:09] <sw> "192.168.254.4:smtp      inet    n       -       y       -       50      smtpd"
[14:10:30] <sw> would be smtpd_dest..?
[14:11:37] <f3ew> sw the concurrency limit is for the num,ber of connections postfix makes
[14:11:42] <f3ew> not the other way round
[14:11:47] <f3ew> that's controlled by maxproc
[14:15:16] <sw> f3ew:  i keep getting "Too many connections from your hosts" from a large ISP servers.. so I would just want to limit postfix to 5 concurrency emails at a time to the same destination.. what do i exactly need
[14:16:07] <f3ew> sw set smtp_destination_concurrency_limit = 1
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[14:17:01] <sw> f3ew:  ok.. gonna try now. thx
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[15:02:01] <the-erm> http://www.pastebin.ca/438109 // I'm getting some really weird errors.
[15:02:22] <the-erm> apparently local is throwing an error because -t is being passed.
[15:02:38] <the-erm> How do you turn off -t being sent to local?
[15:03:50] <the-erm> The problem occurs when I add home_mailbox = Maildir/ to main.cf
[15:03:59] <the-erm> it worked before ...
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[15:19:27] <the-erm> You gotta love these vague no simple google it answers.
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[15:28:31] <squitta> Hi, i have a widely postfix unrelated question, but i cant figure out where else to ask.
[15:29:06] 
[15:29:41] <squitta> the chars are simply output in this way =C3=B6=C3=A4=C3=BC
[15:29:52] <Signum> squitta: You should use UTF8 as output format that you send to the browser and then need to convert the encoding used in the mail to UTF8.
[15:30:41] <squitta> but how do i do that? I am fetching the mail and then using the imap_utf8 function of php, but the effekt is horrible
[15:31:25] <squitta> Signum, but what you told me is acutally the solution?
[15:31:33] <squitta> So i will try on :))
[15:32:08] <Signum> squitta: I'm not familiar with PHP programming. But it's really just a matter of converting everything to the right output format you use to display it to the browser.
[15:33:06] <squitta> ok, you just told me the right thing, I'm just going to figure that out :))
[15:33:09] <squitta> thank you very much
[15:33:12] <shasta> (two security bugs in clamav, upgrade to 0.90.2)
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[15:55:42] <hiddenman> hi all
[15:56:30] <hiddenman> could anyone help me: i need to redirect mail to /dev/null if the "To:" and "Subject" headers match some conditions
[15:57:04] <hiddenman> if endif in the header_checks doesn't work because of different headers, as far as i can userstand. right?
[15:57:15] <hiddenman> i mean:
[15:57:17] <hiddenman> if /^To:.*issues at novolink\ dot net.*/
[15:57:18] <hiddenman> /^Subject: .*AutoReply:.*/ REJECT
[16:00:18] <hiddenman> can postfix helps me with this task or i should use another tool?
[16:02:36] <squitta> Signum, i figured out, thank you!
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[16:21:45] <Signum> squitta: yw
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[16:21:53] <ribasushi> hi
[16:22:37] <squitta> :=)
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[16:23:17] <squitta> Signum, would you like to check out my messaging system?
[16:23:28] <squitta> I'm pretty proud of it :)
[16:24:54] <AussieJames> Hey Signum, any word on a etch update for the postfix/virtual host tutorial? I tried following it on etch today, and came across a problem that I can't seem to resolve
[16:34:19] <ribasushi> how does one chose a BD hashing algorithm (btree hash dbm) when all of them are available on the system?
[16:34:43] <ribasushi> are there any notable diferences/caveats?
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[17:01:42] <Arc> can someone help me resolve why my virtuals stopped working and why virtuals.db is being touched but doesn't change (md5) to reflect changes in virtuals on restart?
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[17:26:43] <mordaunt> what's a good mail filtering device?
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[17:40:17] <nox> anyone an idea why irssi might use 102m res ram after 70 days?
[17:40:55] <nox> ok is has lot of scripts and modules and 35 chan ... but imho this is much 2 much
[17:40:59] <nightswim> because irssi or some script you're using is leaking
[17:41:06] <nightswim> good luck finding out which script
[17:41:18] <Lap_64> 35 channles w00t its too much
[17:41:18] <nox> yes thats what i thought
[17:41:56] <nox> anyone an idea how 2 search for whats leaking?
[17:42:11] <nightswim> start irssi
[17:42:16] <nightswim> and add scripts one by one
[17:42:22] <nightswim> and pray that you'll find out
[17:42:43] <nox> hehe k the t&e way
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[17:44:27] <nox> if someone knows a script which is known to be leaky whould make me happy :D
[17:45:06] <nox> or module ofcause
[17:50:39] <nox> omg sry wrong chan *blush*
[17:50:52] <nox> k 35 chans ARE 2 much
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[18:24:27] <Rattail>  looking for a easy way to tell if users are reading email ; I have a pop3 system setup but also using squirrelmail ; any ideals
[18:25:04] <Rattail> e-mailies
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[19:59:10] <th3073ch> Hi!  I'm trying to get TLS (SSL) working with Postfix.
[19:59:46] <th3073ch> Specifically, it's working now with self-signed certs, but that generates warning dialogs in Thunderbird, etc.
[20:00:24] <th3073ch> So I got a cert from a CA (GoDaddy in this case).  But I'm having trouble installing it.
[20:01:06] <Signum> th3073ch: installing the CA's certificate at every client is the right way
[20:01:57] <th3073ch> I have keys & certs in two locations on the server: /etc/httpd/conf/ssl.crt & /etc/postfix/ssl/mail.XXX.org.crt
[20:03:08] <th3073ch> I submitted the postfix cert, not the httpd one.  But the httpd one appears to be what is presented to the client.
[20:05:27] <th3073ch> Why is the warning dialog on Thunderbird reflecting the cert presented belongs to "YYY.mydomain.org", when that's the httpd cert, not the postfix cert?
[20:05:59] <th3073ch> smtpd_tls_cert_file clearly points to the postfix cert, but I'm still getting the httpd cert used.
[20:06:12] <th3073ch> Is it not doing what I understand it to be doing?
[20:06:30] <Signum> th3073ch: is "postconf smtpd_tls_cert_file" telling you what you expect?
[20:07:08] <Signum> th3073ch: next check if the certificate is the one you expect... "openssl x509 -in /etc/postfix/ssl/mail.XXX.org.crt -noout -text"
[20:07:15] <th3073ch> Signum, why would I want to install the cert at each client?
[20:08:02] <Signum> th3073ch: unless the clients already trust the godaddy CA you'll need to establish CA trust manually by distributing the CA's certificate
[20:09:02] <Signum> th3073ch: do you intend to authenticate your clients by client certificates? or is this "just" the certificate of your postfix server?
[20:09:09] <th3073ch> Yes, I've checked x509 & it reflects that the cert is what I expect.  But that cert doesn't seem to be used.
[20:09:32] <Signum> th3073ch: postfix restarted lately?
[20:10:04] <th3073ch> Just the cert of the postfix server.  We're using SMTPS & POP3S, and want to get rid of the warning msgs on email clients.
[20:10:13] <th3073ch> Postfix has been restarted.
[20:10:41] <Signum> th3073ch: do you get the wrong certificate when SENDING mail to postfix or when RECEIVING mail from your pop3 daemon?
[20:11:03] <th3073ch> Receiving.  Hold a minute & I'll test sending.
[20:11:41] <Signum> th3073ch: you do know that postfix is not a pop3 daemon?
[20:12:12] <th3073ch> Sending through Tbird went without issue... Maybe I need to look at Dovecot's config instead...
[20:12:58] <kokoko1> hello Signum
[20:12:59] <Signum> th3073ch: _very_ likely
[20:13:01] <Signum> kokoko1: evening
[20:13:59] <th3073ch> Nope, I exited Tbird so that my previous dialog answer wasn't remembered, reentered and tried to send.  Got the same warning.
[20:14:48] <kokoko1> Signum, i am looking for little help , i wan to implement spam filtering SA and want to redirect email with 'X-Spam-Flasg or Status' Yes to virtual users .spam folder
[20:15:15] <Signum> th3073ch: I'm not sure the warning comes when sending or receiving...
[20:15:22] <Signum> kokoko1: I want that, too. :)
[20:16:00] <kokoko1> Is it possible to let amavisd-new only modify header of an email and then we use eg, procmail to redirect email to .spam folder
[20:16:51] <kokoko1> i am wondering can we tell amavisd-new to only modify the header and do nothing eg do not Tag it, but only put 'X-Spam-x' things in the header?
[20:16:55] <Signum> kokoko1: That's what I do here. I let spam pass by amavisd-new anyway and let the user decide what to do with it.
[20:17:04] <Signum> kokoko1: my procmailrc filters that out if "X-Spam-Status: YES" is set.
[20:17:16] <Signum> kokoko1: however that is no solution for _virtual_ mailboxes because procmail doesn't deliver them
[20:17:37] <Signum> kokoko1: what is your amavisd-new doing then?
[20:18:25] <kokoko1> Signum, atm i am not using amavid-new but calling global procmailrc from master.cf
[20:18:56] <kokoko1> but with this method i have few problems, ie it skips aliases
[20:18:57] <Signum> kokoko1: Okay... well, it's really simple if you (like me) use amavisd as content_filter
[20:19:23] <kokoko1> Signum, right thats what i am looking into new, but what to do with virtual users .spam :(
[20:19:24] <Signum> kokoko1: There is "certain" tutorial that deals with using amavis the right way as a content_filter including wrong/missing/double aliasing. :)
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[20:19:43] <Signum> kokoko1: you'd need a MDA that is capable of filtering _and_ delivering to virtual mailboxes.
[20:19:53] <Signum> kokoko1: The only choice I see is the f*cking "maildrop"
[20:20:01] <kokoko1> yeah :(
[20:20:11] <kokoko1> i hate maildrop but looks like we dn't have any other choice
[20:21:13] <Signum> Write one. :)
[20:21:23] <haroldp> maildrop works well.  you may be able to use procmail and 'fake it', since your mail directories probably have a very standard pattern.  also, there is yadda, if you can find it.
[20:21:36] <Signum> I have it somewhere on my todo list because I'm disappointed by maildrop, too, and want to have something decent.
[20:22:12] <Signum> yadda is a bit basic but might be a basis (if you like perl). procmail needs a system/shell user to work so it's not an easy choice (if any).
[20:22:14] <kokoko1> Signum, actually integrating SA or amavid-new is not a problem, problem is how to redirect spams to .spam folder
[20:22:16] <cpm> dissapointed how?
[20:23:36] <kokoko1> Signum, so.. we have only one choice clamavd-new + maildrop?
[20:24:10] <kokoko1> Signum, where is your todo list mate ? :)
[20:25:20] <Signum> cpm: I spend a lot of time debugging that beast. So it didn't leave me with a warm feeling like procmail gives me.
[20:25:29] <Signum> kokoko1: in my $HOME :)
[20:25:46] <cpm> hrmm, strange, It *just works* for me
[20:25:49] <cpm> and others
[20:26:03] <cpm> it is brittle, and somewhat expensive.
[20:26:09] <Signum> cpm: Since Debian released a new stable release I'll try out the "newer" version and perhaps have less trouble.
[20:26:29] <cpm> but compared to procmail, sheesh
[20:26:46] <haroldp> I use and like Maildrop.  I really need to update it. I'm still using an ancient pre-pcre version
[20:26:47] <kokoko1> Signum, in case going to use maildrop we don't need to use amavid-new ?
[20:27:04] <kokoko1> maildrop is also capable of filtering or injecting emails to SA ?
[20:27:07] <cpm> I was just curious, because I was/am going to drop it in favor of sieve, but I'm not angry with it or anything, it's served me well for a few years now
[20:27:08] <Signum> kokoko1: amavisd = spam/virus filter. maildrop = delivery agent.
[20:27:57] <Signum> cpm: Active2 (another IRC user) made me try sieve a few weeks ago and I didn't like it either. although the plugins for sqwebmail for configuring the filters are pretty.
[20:27:58] <kokoko1> Signum, okay thanks, i thinks i better don't waste more time on procmail coz boss kinda on the edge
[20:28:11] <Signum> kokoko1: get paid for it! :)
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[20:28:26] <kokoko1> Signum, then boss love to makes me history
[20:28:43] <haroldp> I always found procmail's scripting language pretty weird.
[20:29:51] <Signum> it takes some getting used to at least. maildrop's syntax looks niftier.
[20:30:23] <cpm> maildrop's syntax is quite brittle though, watch them trailing whitespaces
[20:31:29] <haroldp> it has it's idiosyncracies, but nothing compared to procmail, heh
[20:42:39] <kokoko1> Signum, mind if i pm/
[20:42:40] <kokoko1> ?
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[21:07:43] <jpoon> hey guys...I have a problem that I'm a bit confused about
[21:07:58] <jpoon> for a rr.net server, I'm getting 550 errors for:  IP name lookup failed
[21:08:25] <jpoon> I have bind setup on my server and its setup for reverse DNS, but its still not working properly
[21:08:30] <jpoon> any ideas?
[21:09:45] <Supaplex> so you're unable to receive, or send to the rr.net server? which servers are in question?
[21:10:29] <jpoon> well
[21:10:42] <jpoon> I acn't send to the rr server because its denying my mail
[21:10:59] <jpoon> giving the reason IP name lookup failed, but its due to reverse DNSing I believe
[21:11:15] <enyc> Anomal1: jpoon that doesth help unless the reverse is delegated to you etc and you are serving the RIGHT names
[21:11:18] <enyc> oops
[21:11:23] <enyc> jpoon: that doesth help unless the reverse is delegated to you etc and you are serving the RIGHT names
[21:11:39] <jpoon> so the reverse DNS
[21:11:43] <enyc> jpoon: whats the IP address with the reverse problem ?
[21:11:57] <Supaplex> hellooo dig +trace :)
[21:12:04] * enyc prepares to host -rvt ptr  down the chain.. ;-)
[21:12:08] <jpoon> 63.146.71.137
[21:12:26] <Signum> Host 137.71.146.63.in-addr.arpa not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
[21:12:37] <jpoon> well
[21:12:45] <jpoon> its possible it hasn't propagated through the net yet right?
[21:12:48] <jpoon> I made the change last night
[21:12:50] <enyc> jpoon: host -rvt ptr 137.71.146.63.in-addr.arpa. a.root-servers.net.
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[21:13:09] <enyc> jpoon: then... host -rvt ptr 137.71.146.63.in-addr.arpa. dill.arin.net.
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[21:13:25] <Supaplex> why dill.arin.net. ?
[21:13:29] <jpoon> those are commands?
[21:13:42] <Supaplex> no the're koolaid flavors.
[21:13:43] <enyc> Supaplex: look at the output of the a.root-servers.net.
[21:13:48] <enyc> jpoon: yes
[21:13:54] <enyc> jpoon: host -rvt ptr 137.71.146.63.in-addr.arpa. SVL-ANS-01.INET.QWEST.NET
[21:14:00] <Supaplex> ahh.
[21:14:41] <Supaplex> dig +trace 137.71.146.63.in-addr.arpa. takes all the work out of it.
[21:14:58] <enyc> jpoon: then notice that 71.146.63.in-addr.arpa. is delegated to  ns.vom.com ns1.vom.com ns2.vom.com and  all the servers say "non existant domain"
[21:15:01] <Supaplex> as does: dig +trace -x 63.146.71.137
[21:15:06] <jpoon> yeah
[21:15:09] <jpoon> so what do that mean?
[21:15:16] <jpoon> and what can I do about that?
[21:15:48] <Supaplex> ask vom.com for deligation or reverse dns. they controll it.
[21:16:05] <enyc> jpoon: it means that the reverse-DNS for 63.146.71.* is ran by "ns.vom.com" "ns2.vom.com" "ns3.vom.com"...
[21:16:20] <jpoon> it isn't something I can control myself?
[21:16:22] <enyc> jpoon: any other server declaring reverse-dns information for that  will not help
[21:16:58] <enyc> jpoon: well.. you might be able to get those people to delegate (NS record) 137.71.146.83.in-addr.arpa. to your own nameserver
[21:17:13] <enyc> jpoon: err error...
[21:17:21] <enyc> jpoon: well.. you might be able to get those people to delegate (NS record) 137.71.146.63.in-addr.arpa. to your own nameserver
[21:17:39] <jpoon> if not
[21:17:49] <jpoon> then I'll have to deal with these ip lookup errors?
[21:18:02] <enyc> jpoon: you might be able to get them to set a PTR (reverse record) for you
[21:18:33] <enyc> jpoon: you might be able to get them to create a PTR record pointing to  emailcomputer.jpoon.com.  or whatever... which should be a name pointing to your IP again
[21:19:01] <jpoon> is this my ips?
[21:19:03] <jpoon> isp?
[21:19:05] <enyc> jpoon: there are significant numbers of places that will not accept your mail without reverse-DNS record (or reverse-DNS record without matching forward)
[21:19:24] <jpoon> or the domain registrar?
[21:19:33] <enyc> probably... Datapro Q0102-63-146-71-0 (NET-63-146-71-0-1)
[21:19:53] <enyc> jpoon: domain registrar relate to FORWARD lookups on a DNS name...  .com .co.uk .net  whatever
[21:20:13] <enyc> jpoon: your ISP may set reverse-DNS pointer  or delegate reverse-DNS  to you
[21:21:28] <enyc> jpoon: (the .in-addr.arpa. is use for reverse-lookups in IPv4)
[21:22:09] <Supaplex> or they can use a cname
[21:22:10] <enyc> jpoon: does that make any sense?
[21:22:17] <jpoon> yes
[21:22:26] <enyc> Supaplex: yes.. then you can set your own PTRs on the name the CNAME points to
[21:23:43] <enyc> Supaplex: e.g. the ISP can CNAME 137.71.146.63.in-addr.arpa to 63-146-71-137.reverse.jpoon.com   and then jpoon can set  63-146-71-137.reverse.jpoon.com  PTR (whatever)
[21:23:54] <Supaplex> you're speaking to the chior here.
[21:24:09] <enyc> Supaplex: ?the chior?
[21:24:31] <Supaplex> I already know this, jpoon's the one with the question.
[21:24:48] <enyc> Supaplex: Supaplex already knows a the\ chior ?
[21:24:59] <Supaplex> it's a figure of speach
[21:25:01] * enyc $ whatis the\ chior -h Supaplex
[21:25:25] <jpoon> yeah
[21:25:26] <jpoon> I undestand
[21:25:33] <jpoon> its just I don't know who is responsible for it
[21:25:34] <enyc> jpoon: yay ;-)
[21:25:45] <enyc> jpoon: well start with who you pay for connection to internet ;-)
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[21:25:49] <jpoon> it seems like the ISP
[21:25:50] <jpoon> yeah
[21:25:51] <enyc> jpoon: IP addresses etc. ;-)
[21:26:04] <jpoon> but I just need it forwarded to that server
[21:26:12] <jpoon> becuase I have bind setup for reverse DNS
[21:26:17] <enyc> jpoon: ask them what they will do.. varies between ISPs
[21:26:28] <jpoon> yeah
[21:26:32] <jpoon> do you guys have this problem?
[21:26:33] <enyc> jpoon: the word used here is "delegated"
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[21:26:44] <enyc> jpoon: ive seen this when you have no reverse name...
[21:27:12] <jpoon> no reverse name as in when you type in an IP, nothing comes back?>
[21:27:49] <enyc> jpoon: some places do not accept your mail... e.g. AOL's mx computers say "Effective immediately:  AOL may no longer accept connections from IP addresses which have no reverse-DNS (PTR record) assigned."
[21:28:25] <jpoon> okay
[21:28:28] <enyc> jpoon: yes..
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[21:28:38] <jpoon> so its something we'll have to deal with then
[21:28:45] <jpoon> if I can't get the reverse DNS to work
[21:28:49] <enyc> jpoon: also note that the name given should exactly match a forward-name pointing to that IP address
[21:28:57] <jpoon> yeah
[21:29:15] <enyc> jpoon: you need to ask the ISP to set the PTR record to (name that already points to your IP address)
[21:29:33] <enyc> jpoon: or... ask them to delegate the reverse DNS for the IP address to (give your nameserver names)
[21:29:39] <jpoon> yeah
[21:30:07] <enyc> jpoon: or... you need to send your emails via an upstream SMTP service that will forward your emails on
[21:30:22] <jpoon> yeah
[21:30:25] <jpoon> thats also a possibility
[21:30:41] <jpoon> so I need to relay the email to that server?
[21:30:59] <jpoon> thats something I would need to figure out in postfix
[21:32:14] <enyc> jpoon: better to just get reverse dns sorted...
[21:32:22] <jpoon> yeah, which is what I prefer
[21:32:23] <enyc> jpoon: less potential for extra problems ;-)
[21:32:30] <enyc> jpoon: with other smtp server being silly...
[21:32:35] <jpoon> and what is the point of running postfix if that was the case
[21:32:38] <enyc> jpoon: I cannot see 63.146.71.137 on any blacjlists...
[21:32:44] <jpoon> okay
[21:33:03] <jpoon> but I understand I need reverse DNS to work, since its a method to verify servers
[21:33:08] <jpoon> to make sure they are legit and not spamming
[21:33:13] <enyc> jpoon: now stop talking here and talk to your isp ;-)
[21:33:22] <jpoon> =)
[21:33:27] <jpoon> I'm not in charge of that
[21:33:34] <cpm> if you are stumbing at this stage, then using an upstream smtp server is a *good* idea, not a bad one
[21:33:47] <cpm> google postfix smarthost
[21:34:26] <jpoon> okay
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[22:29:52] <Ryushin> Okay, I'm very confused.  I did update my server from Debian Sarge to Debian Etch yesterday, but my mail relay isn't delivering mail anymore to it's destination.  I'm getting this error: Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name
[22:31:16] <Ryushin> I can ping the internal host by it's domain name.  It's in the transport file as "mydomain.com   smtp:[shin1.mydomain.com]"
[22:31:34] <Ryushin> Where is the internal host I put in hosts file.
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[22:32:45] <rcsu> is there a nscd running ?
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[22:59:42] <Ryushin> Nope, there is no nscd running.
[23:00:04] <Ryushin> I'm at a loss at this point.  It's very confusing why it's doing this.
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[23:33:58] <lunaphyte> Ryushin: had you unchrooted postfix previously?
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[23:43:41] <Balu> Any German postmasters here expecting problems with t-online ATM?
[23:45:00] <Balu> s/expecting/experiencing/
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[23:46:35] <Ryushin> Okay, it looks like postfix is ignoring /etc/hosts.
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[23:51:45] <Ryushin> Did postfix sometime change it's default behavior on lookups to use bind first over the hosts file?  I had to put a entry in for smtp_host_lookup = native, dns to make it start using the hosts file first.





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