[00:00:00] <bkw> cool.
[00:00:04] <bkw> sysmonk: thank you.
[00:00:31] <sysmonk> you can also specify a file with the ip's
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[00:01:36] <bkw> sounds good. do I have to define the path to file there. and then add one ip/subnet on every line in that file?
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[00:03:54] <djs_2_6> Hey all.  Running into some trouble with postfixadmin.  I know it is not postfix specifically, but is it ok to ask about it here?
[00:04:24] <sysmonk> bkw: yes, full path and one ip on a line
[00:04:46] <bkw> or a subnet, right?
[00:05:34] <sysmonk> right
[00:06:06] <sysmonk> or a exception, or anything that can be in mynetworks ( see the manual page for more info )
[00:06:21] <bkw> ok
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[00:06:34] <sysmonk> djs_2_6: i think you can ask, but don't expect that it will be answered
[00:06:45] * sysmonk won't asnwer, i don't use it
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[00:09:05] <bkw> sysmonk: http://pastebin.ca/435326 , there I relay my ISP. But anyhow you can see my mailserver ip which is local 192.168.1.10 in this case. Is it possible to hide such info in header?
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[00:10:18] <symerian> bkw: you can customize the header i think
[00:10:48] <bkw> Is that nothing to care about, I mean that a local ip is shown in the header?
[00:10:48] <symerian> bkw: take a look at the doc ==> www.postfix.org ;)
[00:11:16] <bkw> yea, I'm searching for mynetworks right now :)
[00:11:16] <symerian> bkw: not really , this is a class C ip address ;)
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[00:11:32] <djs_2_6> Sysmonk - Well, the postfixadmin is just a little extra.  Really, have set up sasl2/mysql flavor of postfix 2.3.2, and am trying to do virtual hosting of multiple domains, using mysql for storing all of the info.
[00:13:08] <djs_2_6> With courier-imap, too.  Used this guide - http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:JFO9IwXnjSwJ:www.infobsd.org/index.php%3Fcount%3D75+openbsd+smtpd.conf&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=7&gl=us&client=firefox-a
[00:13:25] <djs_2_6> Readon I used that guide is the OpenBSD specific syntax.
[00:13:32] <djs_2_6> s/readon/reason
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[01:17:13] <dthacker> my stock ubuntu main.cf file did not have an entry for smtod_recipient_restrictions.  Where are the defaults kept?
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[01:19:01] <sysmonk> compiled in. use postconf to see the defaults
[01:19:04] <sysmonk> gnight
[01:19:40] <dthacker> gnight sysmonk
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[01:23:37] <dthacker> if I add a restriction to smtpd_recipient_restrictions, do I need to include the default restrictions in my list?
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[01:56:20] <UncleD> Anyone here using postfix w/dbmail?
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[02:03:27] <UncleD> dthacker: How do i increase the max size of an email a user can receive?
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[03:44:32] <djs_2_6> Well, I have postfix set up, and when I nc localhost 25 or telnet localhost 25, I get the esmtp message, then I try helo somedomain.org, it says ok, I type my mail from: address, and then it stops responding, just leaving blank screen where I can type anything, and get no response.  Any ideas?
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[03:45:03] <djs_2_6> Have set up sasl2/mysql flavor of postfix 2.3.2, and am trying to do virtual hosting of multiple domains, using mysql for storing all of the info, and courier-imap.
[03:45:27] <dj-fu> uh
[03:45:30] <dj-fu> you're supposed to type
[03:45:33] <dj-fu> mail from:<address>
[03:45:46] <dj-fu> with the <'s.
[03:49:14] <djs_2_6> Tried angle brackets, and got the same lack of response.
[04:03:26] <dj-fu> well, that's strange
[04:03:30] <dj-fu> what does your postfix log say?
[04:03:43] <dj-fu> and I assume you've got smtpd -vv in your master.cf, also?
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[04:07:56] <YourNameHere> How can I setup postfix to relay mail through a SMTP server that uses TLS and requires user authentication?
[04:08:32] <dj-fu> you can't.
[04:08:42] <dj-fu> actually, I lie, you probably can somehow.
[04:08:54] <dj-fu> like with a transport entry and a custom thing
[04:09:12] <YourNameHere> I figured out how to do the user authentication, but I can't figure out how to enable TLS
[04:10:18] <dj-fu> uh, tls should be easy
[04:11:02] <dj-fu> where have you configured the server for relaying?
[04:11:15] <dj-fu> in transport?
[04:16:59] <djs_2_6> Well, have been hunting around, and maybe I have the wrong syntax in my mysql*.cf files for talking to the database.
[04:18:16] <djs_2_6> In this area, which syntax would be correct for Postfix 2.3.2? - http://postfix.wiki.xs4all.nl/index.php?title=Virtual_Users_and_Domains_with_Courier-IMAP_and_MySQL#mysql_relay_domains_maps.cf
[04:20:09] <dj-fu> I can't get into the box I set it up on
[04:20:11] <dj-fu> it's kinda tricky, though.
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[04:21:35] <dj-fu> you shouldn't need virtual_relay_domains, I don't think
[04:21:45] <dj-fu> take a look at this
[04:21:46] <dj-fu> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Email:_A_Complete_Virtual_System_-_Postfix_to_Postgres
[04:22:05] <dj-fu> bah, i don't recalll it off the topof my head and can only ssh into a box via a vpn
[04:22:11] <dj-fu> firewall here is too restrictive for the vpn
[04:22:14] <dj-fu> otherwise I'd paste ya mine :)
[04:22:39] <djs_2_6> All of the guides I have found for mysql have all of those files listed there, just differences in syntax.
[04:22:51] <dj-fu> yep
[04:22:56] <dj-fu> I had to play with mine quite a bit
[04:23:10] <dj-fu> you just have to realise what you are actually wanting to pull back from the query
[04:25:07] <djs_2_6> http://pastebin.ca/435699 - One page of maybe 60 from my maillog...
[04:25:31] <djs_2_6> Googling those errors did not give me much, either, even after making them as generic as possib.e
[04:25:49] <dj-fu> that's pretty strange/bad.
[04:25:57] <dj-fu> I've not seen that before :\
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[06:11:00] <djs_2_6> Well, I sent a test email to a user on my domain, and while the user did not get it, it did get to the mail server, and showed up in root's mail...
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[07:21:58] <mclosson> Anyone know what Auth Mechanism's work with postfix+SASL2+OpenBSD for the saslauthd -a <parameter>
[07:26:03] <mclosson> I presently am running saslauthd -O 127.0.0.1 -a rimap; I am able to successfully authenticate to the imap server running on this box, but postfix is not.
[07:40:56] <mclosson> Apr 12 01:39:50 carnivore postfix/smtpd[16228]: warning: SASL authentication failure: cannot connect to saslauthd server: No such file or directory
[07:41:49] <f3ew> chroot issue
[07:42:29] <mclosson> yeah now if I can figure out where to tell saslauthd to listen on I'll be a step further
[07:42:50] <f3ew> Postfix chroots to $queue_directory by default
[07:43:54] <mclosson> thanks and saslauthd says it listens on /var/state/saslauthd by default
[07:53:14] <mclosson> any idea where postfix looks for a file to write to sasl on?  I tried mkdir -p /var/spool/postfix/var/state; saslauthd -O 127.0.0.1 -a rimap -m /var/spool/postfix/var/state/; with no avail same error
[07:57:51] <f3ew>  /var/state/saslauthd/mux actually
[07:58:34] <Fullmetal-Mavez> damn saslauth
[07:58:37] <Fullmetal-Mavez> i hate you!
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[08:12:42] <mclosson> now I made /var/spool/postfix/var/state/saslauthd and ran saslauthd options -m that path back there and still no go.  Ideas?
[08:14:21] <f3ew> hmm, turn off the chroot and remove the -m option?
[08:14:34] <f3ew> The chroot doesn't add much more functionality (or security)
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[10:21:36] <_ac3_> check_policy_service with policyd, is here sombody who did not put it at the end of the smtpd_recipient_restrictions?
[10:22:04] 
[10:22:20] <_ac3_> If i comment all these reject_rbl_client entries, mail gets actualy rejected by policyd. Is this normal behaviour?
[10:22:57] <_ac3_> it looks like the last error is returned, so if both policyd and a restriction after this check_policy_service gives out a 4xx error, the last one is returned
[10:24:52] 
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[10:26:28] <_ac3_> according to the postfix docs restrictions are executed in order, and with anything but check_policy_service the result of a restriction (in case of an error) is directly given to the client
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[10:45:27] <f3ew> uh?
[10:47:12] <_ac3_> uh?:)
[10:47:31] <f3ew> where do the docs say that?
[10:48:27] <_ac3_> they say restrictions are executed in order, the say nothing about check_policy_service in particular
[10:48:47] <f3ew> yup
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[10:49:18] <_ac3_> what am i not understanding?
[10:50:41] <Delgul> Can I define multiple smtp transports in my mysql transport table for a domain? I want to be able to send forward mail to a fallback server from a mail gateway...
[10:51:14] <f3ew> _ac3_, show that the DNSBLs are actually being hit?
[10:51:28] <f3ew> Delgul, just set fallback)relay
[10:53:32] <f3ew> or use MX recordsd
[10:53:35] <f3ew> records
[10:53:36] <_ac3_> f3ew: should i paste the logs?
[10:56:42] <Delgul> f3ew: thanks! MX records are not an option in our case but we will try with fallback relay
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[10:57:48] <Delgul> f3ew: Can I set this fallback relay different for every domain i get mail for? This is needed in our situation
[10:58:07] <f3ew> Delgul, use DNS
[10:58:15] <f3ew> _ac3_ yes
[10:58:39] <f3ew> Delgul, setup your own private DNS for that server which has appropriate records
[10:59:08] <stellina> hi people. I need help with postfix config
[11:01:12] <stellina> I have in smtp_recipients_restrictions permit_mynetworks. In mynetworks I have 127.0.0.0/8. When I try to telnet localhost 25 I get "Recipient address rejected: User unknown"''''' after the rcpt to
[11:01:20] <Delgul> argh... I dont need the extra complication of a DNS :-(
[11:01:44] <stellina> what am I missing?
[11:01:56] <_ac3_> stellina: the user you want to send mail to
[11:01:57] <f3ew> stellina, does the recipient address exist?
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[11:03:22] <stellina> the recipient is not local
[11:04:56] <stellina> but  shouldn't it be openrelay just for itself 127.0.0.0/8...
[11:05:05] <stellina> ?
[11:05:55] <Delgul> f3ew: Are there ways around this to avoid setting up a private DNS?
[11:07:22] <_ac3_> stellina: what is in mydestination?
[11:08:36] <stellina> _ac3_: I have localhost, $myhostname
[11:08:54] <f3ew> Delgul, no
[11:09:15] <f3ew> stellina, can you show postconf smtpd_recipient_restrictions ?
[11:09:23] <_ac3_> what is the recipient address?
[11:09:45] <f3ew> smtp_recipients_restriction != smtpd_recipient_restrictions (spelling)
[11:09:50] <stellina> but I'm using virtual domains with their config in ldap . The delivery to these accounts works.
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[11:10:41] <MrWup> say if i wanted to set up an email system where employee's mails had to be OKed by the boss before they could be sent out.... would i need IMAP?
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[11:11:01] <_ac3_> the error you get: does it say: User unknow in local ... or virtual ... ?
[11:11:18] <stellina> f3ew: ehm... I didn't know it. I have permit_mynetworks in smtpd_recipient_restrictionssss
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[11:11:32] <_ac3_> and what else?
[11:11:33] <f3ew> MrWup, HOLD, and then something to release stuff from HOLD
[11:11:41] <f3ew> stellina *SHOW* that
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[11:11:54] <f3ew> Actually, show postconf -n
[11:12:02] <f3ew> and the relevant line from your logs
[11:12:10] <stellina> smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks,       permit_sasl_authenticated,       permit_tls_clientcerts,	reject_unauth_destination
[11:12:38] <f3ew> !paste
[11:12:38] <knoba> f3ew: Error: "paste" is not a valid command.
[11:12:50] <f3ew> http://rafb.net/paste/
[11:14:51] <MrWup> f3ew, thats in postfix? with standard SMTP?
[11:15:15] <stellina> http://rafb.net/p/kDutjL59.html
[11:18:25] <f3ew> the HOLD is, the frontend for releasing from HOLD is not
[11:19:06] <f3ew> stellina and logs?
[11:20:41] <MrWup> thanks
[11:21:46] <stellina> postfix/smtpd[11607]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from <hostname>[127.0.0.1]: 550 5.1.1 <user@notlocaldomain>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown; from=<anotvaliduser@insomedomain> to=<user@notlocaldomain> proto=SMTP helo=<mail.test.gr>
[11:22:12] <stellina> is this enough?
[11:24:53] <_ac3_> f3ew: http://rafb.net/p/4L4yxI77.html
[11:25:02] <f3ew> stellina User unknown in _what_?
[11:25:28] <stellina> I don't know! that's what the logs say :-(
[11:25:51] <f3ew> stellina show unedited logs?
[11:26:08] <f3ew> _ac3_ but what did the policy daemon actually return to smtpd?
[11:26:35] <_ac3_> stellina: change show_user_unknown_table_name to yes and try again
[11:26:53] <f3ew> oh boy
[11:26:58] <_ac3_> f3ew: how can i check that?
[11:26:59] <stellina> but I see that after mail from: and after rcpt to it queries the ldap. so for some reason it tries to see if these users are in my ldap db
[11:27:14] <f3ew> _ac3_, run smtpd in verbose mode perhaps?
[11:27:29] <f3ew> or have the policyd log what it is actually returning?
[11:27:50] <_ac3_> how can i increase the loglevel in postfix?
[11:28:01] <f3ew> smtpd -v in master.cd
[11:29:23] <_ac3_> ok
[11:29:38] <stellina> _ac3_: I did it. now I get: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table
[11:31:33] <_ac3_> do postmap -q recipient@address ldap://lookup_table
[11:32:28] <stellina> _ac3_: the recipient does not exist in my ldap. I need from localhost to be able to send to external users.
[11:32:32] <f3ew> _ac3_, the domain is being found in virtual_mailbox_maps there
[11:34:16] <stellina> I have permit_mynetworks   (127.0.0.1). It should allow me to relay. right?
[11:38:22] <MrWup> f3ew, which IMAP/POP3 server would you recommend?
[11:39:31] <stellina> I cannot understand ;-(
[11:39:54] <f3ew> stellina, Postfix thinks that the domain you are sending to is a virtual domain
[11:40:26] <f3ew> postmap -q example.com ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap/virtual_mailbox_maps.cf
[11:40:37] <f3ew> where example.com is the appropriate external domain
[11:40:48] <f3ew> MrWup, I like Courier
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[11:42:25] <MrWup> oh
[11:42:47] <_ac3_> dovecot is soo much faster
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[11:44:33] <stellina> f3ew: http://rafb.net/p/aPl9F933.html
[11:46:06] <f3ew> stellina does it return a result for the domain where you are having issues?
[11:46:18] <stellina> f3ew: sorry wrong ldap.cf
[11:46:28] <stellina>  postmap -q example.com ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap/virtual_domains_maps.cf
[11:46:29] <stellina> postmap: warning: dict_ldap_open: /etc/postfix/ldap/virtual_domains_maps.cf: Fixed query_filter (&(objectClass=CourierDomain)(accountActive=TRUE)) is probably useless
[11:46:43] <stellina> ok I have to check this I guess
[11:46:48] <f3ew> yup
[11:49:20] <stellina> f3ew: it worked!!! thanks a lot
[11:51:29] <f3ew> yay
[11:57:37] <_ac3_> f3ew: it seems policyd returns: defer_if_permit
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[12:10:48] <f3ew>     action=defer_if_permit Service temporarily unavailable
[12:10:49] <f3ew>     [empty line]
[12:10:49] <f3ew> This causes the Postfix SMTP server to reject the request with a 450 temporary error code and with text "Service temporarily unavailable", if the Postfix SMTP server finds no reason to reject the request permanently.
[12:10:56] <f3ew> From SMTPD_POLICY_README.html
[12:13:54] <_ac3_> so mail is only rejected by policyd if it would be permitted in subsequent restrictions
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[12:17:18] <WorkJack> mhh, is there a way to make sure that an authenticated user foo at bar dot com really sends his messages with "mail from: foo at bar dot com"? I don't want my users to spoof their addresses
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[12:20:00] <_ac3_> thx f3ew
[12:25:46] <f3ew> _ac3_ , that depends on what the policyd returns
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[12:27:49] <f3ew> WorkJack, smtpd_sender_login_maps in postconf(5)
[12:27:58] <f3ew>        reject_authenticated_sender_login_mismatch
[12:27:59] <f3ew>               Enforces the reject_sender_login_mismatch restriction for authenticated clients only. This feature is available in Postfix
[12:27:59] <f3ew>               version 2.1 and later.
[12:29:07] <WorkJack> ah, thanks
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[12:37:41] <f3ew> right
[12:38:26] <_ac3_> thx for the help:)
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[12:58:24] <stellina> I have some problems with sasl auth...  first of all it isn't clear to me where is the correct config location ( /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf ? /usr/lib/sasl2/smtpd.conf ? /usr/lib64/sasl2/smtpd.conf ? )
[12:59:05] <stellina> I'm trying /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf but I think postfix ignores it
[12:59:30] <f3ew> stellina, depends on the distro
[12:59:43] <stellina> it's fc6 x86_64
[12:59:43] <f3ew> the easiest way to find out is to use strace or equivalent
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[13:00:05] <f3ew> strace -ff -o postfix.log "pid of the master process"
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[13:00:21] <f3ew> Is that even compiled with SASL support?
[13:00:28] <f3ew> strace -e open -ff -o postfix.log "pid of the master process"
[13:01:38] <stellina> I think so: ldd /usr/sbin/postfix  | grep -i sasl
[13:01:38] <stellina> 	libsasl2.so.2 => /usr/lib64/libsasl2.so.2 (0x00002aaaab32b000)
[13:05:36] <stellina> I cannot run strace. what's the correct syntax?
[13:05:58] <f3ew> that is the correct syntax
[13:06:13] <f3ew> I forgot the -p
[13:06:32] <f3ew> stellina, that sasl lib can be due to LDAP also
[13:07:29] <stellina> f3ew: ok but I already using sasl parameters in my config. Wouldn't I get errors when postfix starts if it hadn't sasl support?
[13:08:20] <f3ew> stellina, you should, yes
[13:08:30] <f3ew> strace -e open -ff -o postfix.log -p "pid of the master process"
[13:08:49] <stellina> strace -e open -ff -o postfix.log -p 12495
[13:08:49] <stellina> Process 12495 attached - interrupt to quit
[13:09:03] <stellina> do I have to wait? or ctl-d it ?
[13:09:17] <f3ew> telnet to port 25
[13:09:27] <f3ew> quit
[13:09:44] <f3ew> Look for the postfix.log.* files
[13:11:52] <stellina> ok....
[13:12:14] <stellina> :open("/usr/lib64/sasl2/private/auth.conf", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[13:12:51] <f3ew> which smtpd.conf though?
[13:13:03] <stellina> and: :open("/etc/sasl2/private/auth.conf", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[13:13:15] <stellina> so I need only auth.conf ?
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[13:24:38] <MrWup> isnt there something that handles sending mail, IMAP mail boxes and fetching mail all in one? a complete SMTP and IMAP mail solution? open source?
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[13:30:25] <f3ew> courier
[13:31:44] <MrWup> courier can stand in place of postfix for smtp?
[13:33:02] <f3ew> http://www.courier-mta.org/
[13:37:01] <stellina> ok I have now sasl working with authlib.... gr8
[13:37:32] <stellina> nice strace usage :-)
[13:40:44] <f3ew> cool
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[14:14:30] <Zborg> hello
[14:14:44] <Zborg> anyone here who uses postfix as a relay to an exchange server ?
[14:15:28] <Zaw> no, but i've set it up for many customers before
[14:15:34] <brancaleone> Zborg: me :)
[14:15:40] <Zborg> brancaleone: :)
[14:16:01] <Zborg> I have a strange problem, every once in a while, the exchange server doesn't answer anymore to the relay
[14:16:32] <Zborg> with an error like (delivery temporarily suspended: connect to 192.168.1.31[192.168.1.31]: read timeout)
[14:16:44] <Zborg> 192.168.1.31 being the exchange
[14:17:18] <Zborg> but if I do a postqueue -f a few minutes later, the mail in the queue is transferred without problems
[14:18:04] <Zborg> I tried to change a bit postfix configuration, but I still have the problem
[14:18:17] <Zborg> any idea of where it could come from ?
[14:18:43] <brancaleone> well, the word "exchange" seems to be a good direction
[14:18:49] <Zborg> I read that it might be because exchange doesn't send something at the end of the transfer of a message
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[14:19:28] <Zborg> well, actually I didn't doubt of that :) But I don't know if I need to modify the exchange or postfix configuration to get rid of it
[14:20:13] <Zborg> and what I should modify
[14:23:11] <brancaleone> i've never seens that problem before, sorry
[14:24:58] <Zborg> I think I found something on some archive with google
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[14:25:23] <Zborg> it'll increase my knowledge of postfix in the meanwhile :)
[14:25:35] <Zborg> brancaleone: thanks for your help nonetheless
[14:25:47] <brancaleone> any logs on the exchange side ?
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[14:26:52] <Zborg> well, logs...
[14:26:57] <Zborg> not much :)
[14:27:04] <Zborg> they're not that helpful
[14:27:25] <Zborg> I'm trying to lower the concurrency limit of the relay in main.cf
[14:27:30] <brancaleone> maybe you can setup exchange to have more detailed logs for SMTP connection (on 2003 i know)
[14:27:31] <Zborg> I'll see if it works
[14:27:54] <Zborg> I activated logging, and I have all connexions made
[14:28:04] <Zborg> but it stays basic
[14:28:15] <Zborg> or maybe i'm not looking at the right place
[14:28:20] <Zborg> I'll keep looking
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[14:39:14] <brancaleone> you have any message rate limitt on exchange (i don't really know if exchange have these settings) ?
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[14:44:46] <Zborg> let me check
[14:44:55] <Zborg> I have one, but I think I put it wuite high
[14:44:57] <Zborg> quite
[14:45:37] <Zborg> I have a "number of messages per connexion" limit
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[14:45:41] <Zborg> set to 500 :)
[14:46:49] <brancaleone> so i don't think it may be the problem, we have postfix as gateways with many exchange, and some of thems have really big input rate without any problems (of that sort)
[14:47:39] <brancaleone> but that said, does it happens on some inbound mail peaks or more randomly ?
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[14:54:44] <Zborg> depends
[14:54:57] <Zborg> I always have a few mails stuck in the queue
[14:55:18] <Zborg> but over 30 I think it's a bit much
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[15:00:48] <brancaleone> do you do any sort of recipient check on postfix ? Maybe that could drop the load
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[15:44:12] <lack> I there some way to tell postfix:  "When I say user@host, actually send it to 'user at host dot fqdn.com'" ?
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[15:52:23] <f3ew> lack set $myorigin
[15:54:53] <lack> f3ew: That will work for user@localhostname -> user@$myorogin, but what about user@otherhost -> user at otherhost dot domain.com?  Or does postfix already use $mydomain for this?
[15:55:11] <lack> Ie, as a recipient address, not a sender.
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[16:08:49] <k1ckn1ck> hi, having a problem. No one on my domain are able to email hotmail addresses host mx2.hotmail.com[65.54.244.168] said: 550
[16:08:50] <k1ckn1ck>     Your e-mail was rejected for policy reasons on this gateway.
[16:09:10] <k1ckn1ck> i have checked everythign in the guidelines and unable to find a solution
[16:09:26] <k1ckn1ck> but this has only started in the last 2 days
[16:11:44] <f3ew> ask postmaster at hotmail dot com
[16:12:27] <k1ckn1ck> cant email lol, cant email hotmail.com at all
[16:12:41] <k1ckn1ck> i know i know i'll try another email domain
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[16:21:25] <the-erm> I'm getting an error:Apr 12 08:19:23 mail postfix/qmgr[6676]: E52AAF00390: to=<erm at the-erm dot com>, relay=none, delay=1868, delays=1868/0.01/0/0, dsn=4.3.0, status=deferred (unknown mail transport error)
[16:21:31] <the-erm> It's odd I can get email from gmail.com
[16:21:45] <the-erm> But not from my dad at another server.
[16:35:22] <k1ckn1ck> postmaster at hotmail dot com is not a true email address :(
[16:42:57] <stellina> I've setup postfix-ldap and works perfectly with your help.... now I have a problem...
[16:45:54] <stellina> I want to migrate users from my old system but I don't have time available for the migration now. So  I think I have 2 options: 1) Find a way to tell postfix if an account is not found locally to send it to another host or 2) Having imap to get user's mailbox from another host upon login
[16:46:12] <stellina> is any of these options possible?
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[17:22:14] <matju> i forgot something: how do i change the maximum inbox size? is that in postfix settings or somewhere else?
[17:24:38] <sepski> matju, perhaps virtual_mailbox_limit =
[17:27:01] <matju> default is: virtual_mailbox_limit = 51200000
[17:27:10] <matju> but i have an override: virtual_mailbox_limit = 0
[17:27:27] <matju> and then the effective limit is 102400000 anyway and I don't understand why
[17:28:38] <sepski> quota ?
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[17:28:57] <matju> quota: command not found
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[17:31:05] <matju> i'm using procmail, so it could have to do with procmail, but i don't even have a global /etc/procmailrc and yet i have this limit
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[17:32:42] <greuceanu> hi all
[17:33:01] <greuceanu> is there a way to not bounce the undeliverable emails ?
[17:34:32] <cpm> don't accept them in the first place?
[17:34:47] <cpm> you shouldn't accept emails that you can't deliver
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[17:39:37] <greuceanu> and how do I do that ?
[17:40:45] <cpm> http://www.postfix.org/uce.html#smtpd_recipient_restrictions
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[17:41:25] <cpm> key concept
[17:41:28] <cpm> reject_unauth_destination
[17:42:57] <cpm> check_recipient_maps
[17:42:57] <cpm> and so forth.
[17:44:21] <greuceanu> ok
[17:44:21] <greuceanu> thanks cpm
[17:44:21] <cpm> here's a fun read, might fix a buncha stuff at one go
[17:44:21] <cpm> http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt
[17:44:21] <greuceanu> I'll take a look
[17:44:27] <cpm> yw
[17:44:28] <MrWup> anyone got testsaslauthd to work with active directory?
[17:44:43] <MrWup> im having huge problems trying to get it to auth with ldap mechanism
[17:44:53] <MrWup> i just get an auth failed reason=unknown error
[17:44:55] <greuceanu> the problem is that I only sent emails via this server ... and I receive an email allert from spamcop
[17:44:56] <MrWup> immediately
[17:45:03] <MrWup> and nothing shows on the win2k3's event log
[17:48:55] <matju> DUH... it was mailbox_size_limit
[17:49:33] <matju> (and now why isn't the virtual-related name just the same as the non-virtual name with just "virtual_" prepended, i don't know)
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[17:55:48] <k1ckn1ck> i have two email servers, done some updates on both recently, problem is now one sends emails without the x-message-status, x-sid-pra and x-message-info in the header and the other contains them. Now the one that does not have them included, emails to hotmail addresses fail?
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[18:17:29] <cpm> greuceanu, can you pastebin what you received from spamcop? http://rafb.net/paste/
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[18:19:42] <greuceanu> cpm: http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z1269866679z3be97d9e4e2dacaefebee80ca80515a7z
[18:19:50] <greuceanu> you can take a look here
[18:20:03] <Pete_B> Hi. I have fetchmail pulling in mail from a mail host. sending mail to different 10 local virtual mailboxes sends 10 copies to each user. Is this an issue I need to take up with my mailhost provider?  or an issue with fetchmail?
[18:20:12] <greuceanu> my server is mail1.b...
[18:20:55] <greuceanu> and my address appear on this email ... I checkd my logs but I found nothing related to this email
[18:21:27] <greuceanu> I check for all ip addresses from these headers and couldn't find nothing on my logs
[18:21:32] <cpm> Pete_B, whatever it is, doesn't sound like a postfix issue
[18:23:37] <greuceanu> what should I exactly send you ?
[18:24:10] <cpm> anything, i wanna see what your mail looks like coming though, see if it gets flagged for some reason, that spamcop report makes no sense to me
[18:24:21] <cpm> empty subject/body is fine
[18:25:34] <Pete_B> OK, thanks.
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[18:26:11] <greuceanu> so do you want me to send you an email from my server ?
[18:26:21] <cpm> yup
[18:26:31] <greuceanu> ok
[18:26:36] <greuceanu> in a few secends
[18:26:40] <greuceanu> *seconds
[18:29:00] <greuceanu> I sent
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[18:35:27] <greuceanu> cpm, have you received my mail ?
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[18:37:59] <bishillo> hi!
[18:38:26] <bishillo> How I could configure postfix to accept emals like www-data@IPaddr?
[18:39:17] <bishillo> I have some emails waiting in another server queue and I want to accept them just for some time (I have fixed the from so new mails are ok)
[18:39:48] <bishillo> I have removed "reject_non_fqdn_sender, reject_non_fqdn_recipient," from the smtpd_recipient_restrictions, and permit_mynetworks, is the first...
[18:40:44] <bishillo> But it still doesn't allow them... Says: "501 5.1.7 Bad sender address syntax"
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[18:42:15] <rob0> What do you have for "postconf strict_rfc821_envelopes"?
[18:42:51] <bishillo> I set it also to "no"
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[18:42:59] <rob0> I don't know if it's possible to accept those, then.
[18:43:09] <bishillo> I see...
[18:43:18] <bishillo> postfix it's good
[18:43:21] <bishillo> :)
[18:43:41] <bishillo> before we have a exim, and that was not problem for him...
[18:43:50] <rob0> Well, broken is broken. Wietse doesn't want to support breakage of mail.
[18:44:20] <rob0> maybe you can temporarily (or permanently) run exim to do this.
[18:44:31] <bishillo> yeah, it's really ok for me... I don't wanted to accept them, but the boss...
[18:45:13] <bishillo> rob0: we have too many users...
[18:45:24] <bishillo> postfix using ldap... bla bla bla
[18:45:39] <rob0> Idiots writing software, who don't know how to read RFC's, come up with junk like that.
[18:46:10] <rob0> There *may* be some other trick, if you want to ask the mailing list.
[18:46:28] <bishillo> I'm wondering if I could change the second machine queue emails...
[18:46:29] <rob0> I've seen it come up, but not sure what the solution was, if any.
[18:46:37] <rob0> ah, maybe so.
[18:47:28] <cpm> greuceanu, it passed though nice and clean, I wouldn't be concerned about that wierd spamcop thing
[18:48:30] * cpm rejects improper rob0s
[18:49:10] * rob0 improperly feels rejected :(
[18:49:38] * cpm buys rob0 a lollypop,
[18:49:40] <cpm> cheer up
[18:50:11] * rob0 cheers up
[18:50:22] <greuceanu> cpm, thanks for checking
[18:50:27] <cpm> yw
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[19:17:21] <cfernandez> hi everyone. good afternoon
[19:17:23] <k1ckn1ck> i have two email servers, done some updates on both recently, problem is now one sends emails without the x-message-status, x-sid-pra and x-message-info in the header and the other contains them. Now the one that does not have them included, emails to hotmail addresses fail?
[19:17:40] <cfernandez> how can I whitelist some ips of our custumers so they dont get trap on the graylist?
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[19:19:31] <cfernandez> I mean greylist
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[19:33:38] <ziro> cfernandez, what are you using for greylisting?
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[19:34:47] <cfernandez> ziro: im using sqlgrey
[19:35:12] <cfernandez> the whitelist there spires
[19:35:22] <cfernandez> so I was looking to do so at:
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[19:35:47] <cfernandez> smtpd_client_restrictions =
[19:35:58] <cfernandez> I seen lot of options
[19:35:59] <cfernandez> but I am a bit confused
[19:36:13] <cfernandez> different views on different mail from google
[19:36:44] <ziro> if you are using sqlgrey and you want to have a client ip whitelisted, you need to white list it with sqlgrey.. not postfix in this case..
[19:36:44] <cfernandez> im looking for a text that is clear "this is how you whitelist before greylists or whatever you have there"
[19:37:15] <cfernandez> ziro: I understand but they get erased after some time.. is there a format to not expired some ip's?
[19:37:29] <cfernandez> basically I want to whitelist all the mailservers of my clients.. not their domains
[19:37:49] <cfernandez> so I dont put a process head on my server that is actually loaded
[19:37:50] <ziro> Yeah.. checking my install of sqlgrey
[19:38:19] <cfernandez> that is why I was looking to do so from postix.. so the system checks the ip before it comes in
[19:38:25] <cfernandez> even before greylist
[19:38:31] <ziro> have you added to: /etc/sqlgrey/clients_ip_whitelist.local   ?
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[19:39:28] <cfernandez> yes
[19:39:29] <cfernandez> and clients_fqdn_whitelist.local
[19:39:33] <devdas> cfernandez: have yu seen the cheatsheet?
[19:39:36] <devdas> !cheatsheet
[19:39:37] <knoba> devdas: 'cheatsheet' : http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt : A HOWTO for pre-DATA spam control.
[19:39:37] <cfernandez> will those spire?
[19:39:45] <cfernandez> devdas no I didnt
[19:40:01] <devdas> see that link
[19:40:07] <cfernandez> thanks devdas
[19:40:11] <cfernandez> looks promissing
[19:40:19] <stellina> hi people...
[19:41:17] <stellina> I had postfix working fine with maildrop until I installed amavisd-net. Now I get in my logs 'unable to open mailbox'.
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[19:41:49] <stellina> any ideas? I believe it has to do with permissions but I don't know what to change
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[19:43:37] <cpm> stellina, can you pastebin that log entry, and the lines leading up to it?
[19:43:48] <cpm> also pastebin the output of postconf -n
[19:44:13] <stellina> ok w8
[19:44:38] <cfernandez> oops. I forgot to add this is also to whitelist from the RBL's
[19:45:05] <cfernandez> with the .local entry in sqlgrey I can whitelist there my clients.. now I need to whitelist them from RBL's
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[19:48:03] <stellina> cpm: http://rafb.net/p/EbOO3C67.html
[19:49:11] <cpm> stellina, is amavis listening on 10024?
[19:49:33] <stellina> telnet localhost 10024
[19:49:33] <stellina> Trying 127.0.0.1...
[19:49:33] <stellina> Connected to localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1).
[19:49:33] <stellina> Escape character is '^]'.
[19:49:33] <stellina> 220 [127.0.0.1] ESMTP amavisd-new service ready
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[19:49:51] <cpm> kool
[19:50:10] <stellina> btw maildrop runs as vmail users and all the maildir belong to vmail ...
[19:50:22] <stellina> do  have change somewhere permissions?
[19:50:24] <cpm> ahh
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[19:50:36] <cpm> are you logging maildrop?
[19:50:44] <stellina> yes
[19:51:07] <stellina> but I see nothing useful
[19:51:31] <stellina> only info for some previous deliveries
[19:51:36] <cpm> should see where it attempted to drop that email, but couldn't because it couldn't find the mailbox
[19:52:07] <cpm> actually, no, it wont' log it until it completes
[19:52:31] <cpm> you check on the maildir for 'mymail@domain' ?
[19:52:47] <cpm> what are your maildroprc rules?
[19:53:13] <stellina> there's nothing there. I have a /var/log/maildrop.log globally
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[19:53:45] <cpm> are they anything like this?
[19:53:47] <cpm> http://rafb.net/p/RRLh6r29.html
[19:55:10] <stellina> cpm: that was the problem...
[19:55:30] <stellina> a wrong filer in maldroprc for spam mails ... thanx a lot
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[20:08:09] <cfernandez> whats the diference between sender check or client checks?
[20:08:18] <cfernandez> is to know were to put my haches
[20:08:49] <cfernandez> I have the same examples for both
[20:09:08] <cfernandez> but want to make sure sender is FROM and client is my users
[20:09:11] <cfernandez> ?
[20:10:58] <devdas> client == ip or hostname of sending host
[20:11:06] <devdas> sender == address in mail from:
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[20:15:45] <suprsonic> http://www.pastebin.ca/436749
[20:16:15] <suprsonic> I created a verify map file which contains emailaddress OK, but it doens't seem to be filtering correctly
[20:16:28] <suprsonic> bogus email addresses are still being forwarded to our exchange box
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[20:17:32] <_ac3_> i have reject_invalid_helo_hostname in my smtpd_recipient_restrictions list
[20:17:59] <b3stbuddy> hi all, is there an alternative to dkfilter that can be used to implement domainkeys?
[20:18:00] <_ac3_> what exactly is an invalid hostname? i cant seem to trigger it (for testing)
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[20:25:25] <stellina> It is possible to customize the mailer-daemon mails that are returned to senders ?
[20:30:59] <^majik^> I'm having trouble receiving e-mail from someone, because their smtp server doesn't have a forward record, only a reverse: http://rafb.net/p/p42zt459.html
[20:31:32] <^majik^> What's the best solution to take care of this, and how do I do it?
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[20:39:38] <KenSentMe> Hi there. I installed postfix on a Ubuntu Dapper install and use ISPConfig to manage things. I've configured my system and postfix with a hostname that isn't currently usable (e.g. the domain is currently set another ip). I've edited main.cf and set myhostname to localhost. But everytime a mail comes in postfix tries to deliver it user at old dot hostname.org. I've restarted postfix, but that didn't help. Any ideas?
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[21:05:00] <cpm> KenSentMe, start here
[21:05:03] <cpm> http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html
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[21:08:07] <KenSentMe> cpm, i think i did al the right things, all the times i get this message in my /var/log/mail.log: connect to ubuntu606m.worldofubuntu.com[68.178.232.99]: Connection timed out (port 25). But there is no ubuntu606m.worldofubuntu.com in my main.cf anymore
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[21:12:05] <alexIdoia> is there a way in mailman to display the list of email of all subscriber for export ?
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[21:12:37] <devdas> yes
[21:12:48] <devdas> find the appropriate place in member management
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[21:15:37] <cpm> KenSentMe, that's email is in your queue
[21:15:55] <KenSentMe> cpm, what do you mean?
[21:16:10] <cpm> it means you already failed to sent it once, it's just bouncing around in the queue
[21:16:15] <KenSentMe> I tried sending new mails but it happens again
[21:16:16] <cpm> because it can't connect
[21:16:33] <cpm> man postqueue
[21:16:41] <cpm> man postsuper
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[21:23:30] <alexIdoia> devdas: I did not find it in the interface, I mean I can see them but not as a entire list there are all alphabetically order
[21:25:00] <KenSentMe> cpm, i cleared the queue, sent a new email, but still the same connection error
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[21:28:03] <veke_> hi...
[21:31:36] <KenSentMe> cpm, here is my main.cf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15265/
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[21:36:34] <KenSentMe> This is the right version: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15267/
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[21:43:41] <kokoko1> anyone using procmail + spamassassin with v.domains
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[21:44:40] <kokoko1> i have created .procmailrc file in my /var/spool/vmail/mydoamn/mymailid/.procmailrc but i don't see any SPAM-X header in emails
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[22:55:11] <kokoko1> Is it possible to use .procmailrc files with virtual users setup?
[22:55:30] <kokoko1> I wonders how postfix will read .procmailrc files in v.user mailstore
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[23:07:54] <zap-clone> hello
[23:08:56] <zap-clone> my postfix (on debian etch) ignores saslauthd. I configured sasl to use saslauthd (in /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf, like debian's README.Debian says, but postfix demands /etc/sasldb2
[23:09:02] <zap-clone> any Ide?
[23:09:08] <zap-clone> idea even...
[23:09:44] <zap-clone> I also mapped saslauthd inside the chroot
[23:10:16] <bkw> how and where did you do that?
[23:10:41] <bkw> please check with ps ax | grep saslauth     so that it actually runs in the right place.
[23:11:52] <bkw> pwcheck_method: saslauthd   you have that in your smtpd.conf, right?
[23:12:35] <zap-clone> bkw: exactly
[23:12:36] <bkw>  /usr/sbin/saslauthd -a pam -c -m /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd -n 5
[23:12:41] <bkw> that is running, right?
[23:12:52] <zap-clone> and saslauthd is running
[23:13:00] <zap-clone> nope, -a ldap
[23:13:46] <bkw> hm, that's out of my knowledge to be honest. but your main.cf contains what it needs to use sasl right?
[23:14:05] <zap-clone> postfix says: warning: SASL authentication problem: unable to open Berkeley db /etc/sasldb2: No such file or directory
[23:14:41] <zap-clone> bkw: yes. Actually, I used the settings from a backup of an old server I set up using the same environment about 3 years ago
[23:15:31] <bkw> what happens if you create that file. and then restart saslauthd?
[23:15:43] <bkw> that file should be there when package installed.
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[23:17:02] <Zerberus> using sasldb is the fallback of cyrus-sasl if all else fails or isn't configured properly
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[23:18:54] <zap-clone> Zerberus: can I find out why it ignores my smtpd.conf?
[23:19:20] <Zerberus> try testsaslauthd first
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[23:21:35] <bkw> perl -MMIME::Base64 -e 'print encode_base64("username\0username\0password");'
[23:21:55] <bkw> replace username and password with a existing user.
[23:22:09] <bkw> telnet host 25
[23:22:22] <bkw> EHLO my.host
[23:22:45] <bkw> AUTH PLAIN dXNlcm5hbWUAdXNlcm5hbWUMb29iYXI=  (but replace with your string)
[23:22:52] <bkw> and see what it sais
[23:23:17] <zap-clone> Zerberus: oh, ok, I just found out that saslauthd cannot connect to my LDAP server...
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[23:32:51] <kokoko1> is it possible to use procmail with virtual user setup ?
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[23:58:59] <mh40> Hello, i tried to setup virtual alias domains with postfix-2.3.8, and http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html#virtual_alias and virtual(5) as information
[23:59:48] <mh40> but all i get for my virtual alias domains is "status=bounced (User unknown in virtual alias table)" do you know anything about that?





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